Terrorists who carried out deadly W. Bank shooting were Fatah men

the bravest coward in history.History repeat itself.

Israel's appeasement now crowd never learns - the same idiots cannot wait to free the child murderer, Barghouti.

It is quite apparent you just one of those that makes up stories and cannot back them up--Of course, you know what people call your type-- "#40 Ibn Falastin - I`ll ask one easy question Name: * BEN JABO City: USA State: And I`m going to bet you won`t answer it-- Just where did Olmert say, "Israel is finished" because it is an apartheid state " No fudging now, just the source of the above-- You said it, now prove it, otherwise we will know it`s your usual B.S

Fictional works require fictional characters. Thus the fictional "peace process" requires a fictional peace loving organization to negotiate with. Fatah has been tapped to play the fictional peace partner. Despite the fact that it has maimed and murdered far more Jews than Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hizbullah and Al Quada combined. And it continues to do so!

practice and solo navigation skills. Like most girls who lived in the strongholds in pre State Eretz Israel.

I say, screw this peace thing. It only goes one way! Abbas has no control over his own people and never will have. He is just a guy who put the world on presure to feel bad for the Palestinians ,in the mean time Hamas and Fattah are in fact both awaiting the death of Israel and don't you forget that. The more hope you give them the more they think we will end up dead; and if you think land is what they want then look at Gush Katif, what good did they do there?Even in the towns that they control, the way of life (that seems to others like misery) is the way their way of living and nothing will change that.G-d bless those soldiers and hopefully someone in power will use this to stop the peace talk crap.

from the Pal.hymnbook,as every group thinking lefty demands. Daoud do not be so greedy.! You cannot have it all,live with it. B.T.W. Your brothers in Palestine managed to kill at least 344 of each other last year. No screaming headlines if there is no politically correct mileage is there? Not even a squeek from their loving brothers,I mean the likes of you.

What were they trying to prove: that they can shoot a gun; that they can pre-meditate a crime; that they can kill two Israelis? Then, of course, they run to give themselves up to the PA, fearing capture by Israel. They are just a bunch of cowardly idiots. No words could adequately describes the wanton idiocy of these terrorist murderers.

And I'm going to bet you won't answer it-- Just where did Olmert say, "Israel is finished" because it is an apartheid state " No fudging now, just the source of the above-- You said it, now prove it, otherwise we will know it's your usual B.S.

You CAN NOT go back in history farther that the Mohammedan conquest and occupation of Jerusalem in 638 CE. Yes, occupation included. Incidentally, this was the year the new conquerers from the Arabian deserts had allowed the Jews to return to Jerusalem, for ever and ever. Now, would you curse Muhammad for this special love towards the Jews ?

Members of Fatah, most certainly terrorists--

when even the Arab League itself disclaimed any responsibility towards this Group when after the 1948 War they produced a Statement which said that no Arab Government should give Citizenship to Palestinian Refugees. There must be 'something' about these people that no Arab Country wants them near. Unfortunately their radical and militant history speaks for itself when they killed Abdullah th First of Jordan for his friendship with Israel.... started the Sabra/Shatilla Massacre by assassinating the leader of the Philangists.... and then murdering Israel's War Hero Zeevi for saying these people have to be TRANSFERRED back to where they came from - "A Troublesome lot".

Court clerks, security personnel and on the side, terrorists, now in the "Custody" of the terrorist organization that governs them.

Wow, the author of this piece has outdone himself! Eleven times you use the word "terrorist" when of course you mean resistance fighter or militant. Congratulations.

They will probably be trialled and put into a Palestinian jail. Once that is done, they will spend a few years (or days ???) over there and they will be released. That is when Israel will probably capture them, and make them spend the rest of their lives with other terrorist compatriots.

In 1967 Israel was victorious and the people rejoiced.Now since 1967 could an official in Israel give me the count of soldiers who have died in all skirmishes or wars to date and still no peace. I say Israel must stop this messing around trying to buy time for the satisfaction of the rest of the world to achieve PEACE which will never come. How many more soldiers must still die to satisfy the world,these are Israel's children,no wonder they are starting to dodge the army,they are tired of this all.Israel must fully mobilise her full army and reserves and go in and obliterate these terrorists and neighbouring armies once and for all,so that they may never rise again.THEN THERE WILL BE PEACE

Nothing new. They all say one thing in English that is slavishly reported by the media without ever reporting what the OFFICIAL Fatah/Hamas media say in Arabic.

They were probably turned free once they handed in their weapons. Abbas will claim this is an isolated incident,like the last time it happened.

why don't you complain to your Hamas and Fatah friends, that they killed only 7 Israelis last year. Do you think that they did not want to kill more Israelis - they just failed. Go and complain!

Just for fun, and just to post something that doesn't appear much at Haaretz, let me admit something. You've got a point.

you are not welcome in that territory idf.get out

The Rulers of the State of Israel are actively aiding and abetting the genocidal PA. The must be removed. How many Israelis must be killed by their Orwelian 'Peace Process'? How much longer must the demonic Autocratic Dictatorship of the Supreme Kangaroo Court bleed the people ?

why the f...ck is Israel arming Fatah so that Fatah "SOLDIERS" not "FREEDOM FIGHTERS" not "TERRORISTS" are in turn using these weapons to kill Israelis. Whether or not these Fatah soldiers will be punished by Abbas.... their days are numbered. They better look for work in Iran.

The blame should be on OLMERT and the government for encouraging Fatah and the PA and Hamas etc.by giving them arms, encouragement and failing to uphold Israel's interests.. Only IDIOTS would consider giving another inch to this enemy .Only fools would promise to divide Jerusalem and bring terror even closer to the bosom of the capital.

try posting something sensible. an army is duty bound to go after those who are unlawful armed militia. this was a terror attack against ostensibly a civilian target (happened to be off duty soldiers) but this is murder pure and simple for the sake of murder with the sole objective of murder. the pa should without delay hand them over to israel failing which they are accomplices. tricky situation for the pa but they have to tell it straight to their own people....either we are for the rule of law or we are just a bunch of armed militia.

To make peace with the pals,no matter what label they carry on their foreheads,is ABSOLUTE SUICIDE AND MADNESS...hammas,fatah,ebola,islamic jihad,etc,etc,etc,are all the same...abbas is another afatrat,just without the table cloth on his head...NO PEACE WITH THIS BUNCH...SEND THEM ALL,TO THE LAST ONE, ACROSS THE RIVER TO jordan,OR LOCK THEM ALL,TO THE LAST ONE IN gasa

Is anyone surprised that these three scumbags are members of Fatah? Their leader,Abbas, the architect of the Munich Massacre,teaches his disciples well. Abbas a lion in sheeps clothing...a liar and deceiver...everytime I see Olmert shaking hands with this devil I want to vomit....at this point who is worse...who is more dangerous for Israel...Olmert or Abbas?

Two days ago, when Fayyad announced they were in custody, Fayyad issued a statement published here in Haaretz, that they would receive prosecution to the fullest extent of the law. It is for the PA to prosecute them. And you're right, it is a test.

the ones who invade other people land and shoot at their people with helicopters missiles? or the ones who, based on international Law and human rights, defend his land from aggressors who invadors? what's the israeli soldiers doing in Palestinian West Bank?

The biggest terrorist organisation in the world is the Jewish gangster militia that calls itself the "IDF." Even according to B'tselem, this murderous organisation killed nearly 400 Palestinians last year. Palestinians killed 7 Israelis. The terror corporation killed more than 50 Palestinians for every Israeli. But the might of this colonial army is nothing compared to the steadfastness of the Palestinian people who will outlast it even if it takes 1000 years. Olmert is right, Israel is "finished" because it is an apartheid state.

In his desire to divide Jerusalem and turn much of it over to the terrorist Fatah of Abbas, Olmert is no less of a criminal than the P.A. "policemen" who murdered the two Jewish hikers. I suppose in Olmert's perverse and degenerate mind he sees the deaths of these two young men as a reason to send even more arms to the P.A.?

Haaretz: you call these two wicked, murdere of Israeli Soldgers Terrorists? How are you going to explain this to your British bosses that you call these two wicked,Terrorists, murdere of jews Terrorists? How?

It was the people of ?moderate? Abbas who did it. They also tried to murder Olmert when had to protect him. What now? Will we still have peace talks?

Terrorists? They only killed two settlers and soldiers to be more precise. What happened with the word militants? Did the censor have too much to drink last night?

Will they do the right thing and bring them to trial for murder and send a message that a new day has dawned? Will they step up and do the right thing and sentence these two and show us that they do intend to establish rule of law? Will they show their propensity to never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity, or will they usher in change.

It's going to be hard to orchestrate their killing 'while resisting arrest' if they are already in the custody of the PA when they are handed over. But I'm sure something will be worked out. I know my Israel, and I wouldn't sell these guys life insurance. They're as dead as a Reuters photographer.

How many of those implicated in the killing of Palestinian fighters are you planning to turn over in exchange? I'm sure a deal can be worked out.

Says something!

Maybe they were tresspassing on Palestinian owned farmland.

Maybe Abbas, whose power extends to his entire house, will not attack us, but he will not be able to control anyone else. We will get nothing for very painful and irreversible steps that we will take. This is just a sample of things to come. The west bank is in chaos, there is no rule and no one control the place. Until they prove to us that they can govern the place and honour commitments, we will be sitting there for a long time.

Bring back the death penalty!

The innocent murdered demand justice against their killers! Revenge IS appropiate against MURDERERS!

Were the Fatah security officers who carried out this attack using US-supplied weapons and jeep? Were they more of Gen. Dayton's "preventive security" trainees (as seems likely)? This needs investigating, because it would not be the 1st time. If Dayton's men have again attacked Israelis, he needs to be relieved of command and court-martialed. Barak is right to retain all W. Bank checkpoints in view of this, and to cancel deployment to PA of the Russian-supplied APCs. PA didn't "apprehend" the perpetrators, as the lying Fayyad claimed - it gave them sanctuary (at their request) so IDF wouldn't get them, and then concealed that fact! The entire peace process is a fraud.

Murder=Murder. Any FOOL knows that.

Fry these murderers

If Olmert and Livni were not a certified idiots as they are they would stop ANY negotiations with Abbas until both terrorists are handed over to Shin Bet

OK, I'm being sarcastic, but they did turn themselves in. Actually I'm pleased that the PA caught them, returned the weapons and cooperated. Things are improving.

i feel better knowing it was the good terrorists and not the bad ones. Maybe Kahane was correct ?

If this had happened a 100 years ago to say the British , they would have sent a gun boat and shelled ramalla untill thy got the terrorits , but this is not 100 years ago so now little Mr Abu Mazan , must decide ( as president Bush says ) either your with the terrorits or with us ? what will he do - give them up to the Israelis or adopt Arafats turning door policy and let them go in the morning , my own view is to give him 6 hours to give them them up or start to shell his offices

Once again PA's "police" shows its untrustworthiness and duplicitous behaviour. One hand, they ask for weapons and Personnel carriers ostensibly to "fight Hamas" and "keep order." Moreover, when it was clear that a terrorist attack occurred and the terrorists turned themselves in, PA hid that fact from everyone. This does not increase trust in PA's ability to negotiate or to be a reliable partner. What can you expect when Abbas talks out of both sides of his mouth - one hand calling for peace for Israel and and on the other tolerating anti-Israel propaganda.

both deserve a fair trial... in israel. SEE WHAT I MEAN?

This is what peace is about. An arab court clerk kills 2 israeli hikers not harming anybody.Avnery has blinders on thinking that occupation alone explains arab hatred. Its racial. Islam has no room for judaism unless they are dsimmis, subservient to arabs in the arab majority state of palestine.A 2-state solution is just a stop on the road to get there. Olmert is totally misguided. He screwed up the hezbollah war. He appointed the ignoranmus peretz as defence minister. He sucks up to bush, putin, mubarak and abbas.He offers concessions at the extreme even before negotiations have started. Its ok with him that his children do not serve in the IDF. This is an example of an israeli leader???!!Now he hides behind hanegbi blaming the IDF for lebanon instead of shouldering some of the responsibility. Israelis forget that he tried to talk halutz out of resigning, the same general whose planning harmed israeli efforts. So, israelis, are you stupid?? Get rid of this idiot olmert!

They turned themselves into the PA? Wow. All hail Abbas, President of the Muqata who will bring peace to Israel through his Fatah. Unfortunately everyone else who belings to Fatah seems to want the same thing as Hamas....dead Jews. They all stink. There is literally no one to 'prop-up' as a moderate.

according to the simple minded guullable left including this sophisticated newspaper, fatah is ding their job. all we are saying is just give peace a chance ha!!!

As Meretz supports the right of the arabs, especially one that Meretz joyously armed with the Israeli taxpayers money, to use arms to end what the Left cynically calls the "occupation" these freedom fighters must be released immediately.

And these are the evil, racist killers to whom Olmert wants to hand over East Jerusalem.

Then they were legitimate targets.

This will allow FATAH'S THUGS to kill Jews with relative impunity--Don't forget the heavy machine gun mounts, range is far greater than puny little AK 47's--And we were being told that Abbas' fellows were the "friendlies"-- Do the deal in style, throw in a couple of Merkava's as a bonus--

change of policy, or the usual editor-ideologue happen to be in Moscou happily enjoying the Sylvester "drink Vodka till you dye celebration?". At any rate, Haaretz did'nt just wake up on 2008 and said "all this tender conscience is killing us", and drive any affinity with the Jews of Israel away.....(that is the reason I used Moscou...get it?)

Israel should give up the road blocks that cause these incidents. Then there will be no resistance and Israel can get on with the peace process. Olmert has already realised that for peace Israel as we know it will be dismantled after the 60th anniversary and a new post zionist democracy will be established where Jews and Arabs can live sise by side. This is what Arabs want and what Israel's friends quietly expect. Olmert knows this and will be the bridge between the Old Israel and New Palestine. He will have a huge task but he already is preparing Jews mentally for this and Abbas is on this too.

The last 3 Israelis killed by terrorists were murdered by policemen belonging to the "moderate" fatah using guns supplied by Israel.It is clear that that the Palestinians don't want a state. What they want is to kill Jews. There is very little difference between Fatah and Hamas so let's stop pretending that there is. There is a war going on if we pretend that there isn't.

Killing two armed soldiers in occupied territory is not a terrorist act. It certainly isn't considered terrorism to kill armed palestinians who enter Israel, now is it?

The answer to terrorist atrocity is to build a strong Israel. Unilateral withdrawal begets more terrorism as the average Israeli voter has come to learn from the "Gaza First" fiasco. We will never persuade those who rationalize Arab destruction and condemn Israeli construction in territories liberated by Israel from illegal Jordanian occupation in the 1967 war of survival. Rather than appease and please, let us focus our efforts as Voltaire's Candide learned on "cultivating our garden". This tax season, let all Israelis living comfortably abroad make a generous contribution towards Israel's development in honor of these heros and other ordinary citizens whose lives were cut short while the world debates Israel's right to exist in secure borders.

usual punishment for terrorism.

Get used to it MR Kohen, and learn to be a good "Pal" to your new neighbours.

Yes, the buck stops with Olmert, who supports Ftah, his so called peace partner, and gives them ammunition, which they immediately turn on israelis.

Arab murderers are different. One is an Arab, one is a German. That is a very big difference, b'seder?

This is how you get ahead: Kill two Israelis then go to hotel like accomadations at "Prison". Oh! By the way, Israel doesn't have a death penalty. It seems Israelis are wiser than God.

Protesters warned about this happening because it has happened many times before. In spite of this and the PA's repeated violations Ehud Olmert *still* went ahead and sent arms, money to the PA as well as releasing their terrorists. Why is there such a disconnect between the Israeli (and even US) leadership and reality? How could anyone seriously believe that releasing extremists from jail will help a moderate in a democratic context? The Palestinians have shown time and time against that they talk peace while murdering our people. Their words are meaningless. Judge them by their actions.

So our "moderate" Fatah are nothing but rabid murderers. I'm shocked, simply shocked.

They are no less than Hamas. All of the terrorists have the same strategic goal- to "throw the Jews into the sea". The only difference is the tactics. Fatah lies and Hamas admits it. They ALL must be destroyed,and ONLY the nation of Israel should rule the land of Israel.

the terrorists surrendered which is basically an admission of guilt. how is the PA going to punish those who kill israelis? my guess they get 5 years and amazingly escape after 30 days.