Syrian official: After IAF raid, Israel can forget about peace
First clear reaction by Damascus governmnet to reported September 6 Israeli air strike on target in Syria.
By Reuters Tags: Russia Syria Middle East peaceAn Israeli raid on Syria has all but finished off chances for resuming peace talks between the two foes, Syrian officials said on Monday.
In the first clear reaction to the reported September 6 Israeli air strike, officials told Reuters Syria was wary of retaliating against Israel given the military superiority of the Jewish state and because of lack of Arab support.
Another reason was Damascus's changing relationship with Russia, an ally during the Communist era.
The officials were dismissive about any new peace talks, which collapsed in 2000 over the scope of an Israeli pullout from the Golan Heights, a 1,750 square km (676 square mile) plateau which the Jewish state captured from Syria in 1967.
"After this raid, you can forget about peace. It is no secret that our forces have been on alert for some time, but Syria will not be the first to start a war," said one of the Syrian officials, who asked not to be named.
"Arab states have not exactly rallied in our support. As for peace, the international picture could start changing late next year with a new administration in Washington," another official said.
Even Moscow, a strong backer of Syria in the days of the Soviet Union, did not directly condemn the Israeli action, in which Syria says planes bombed an empty area after air defence systems confronted them. Israel has not disclosed the target.
Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Alexander Sultanov advised Syrian officials not to go after Israel at the United Nations beyond a protest letter, according to a diplomat familiar with Sultanov's recent meetings in Damascus.
During last year's war between Hezbollah and Israel, Russia told Damascus not to use Russian missiles to target Israel if the war extended to involve Syria.
Diplomats say at least four Israeli warplanes crossed deep into Syria in this month's operation. They suggest the intended target may have involved missiles supplied by North Korea but played down reports of a nuclear link.
Days after the raid, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert dropped Israel's insistence that Syria abandon support for the Lebanese movement Hezbollah and the Palestinian group Hamas before any peace talks could start.
Western diplomats in Damascus said Syrian officials told them Syria did not take Olmert's statements seriously.
"Peace with Israel is not a priority for Syria when it has Lebanon and the Hariri investigation to deal with," one said.
The diplomat was referring to upcoming Lebanese presidential elections and a United Nations investigation into the 2005 assassination of former Lebanese premier Rafik al-Hariri.
The probe implicated Lebanese and Syrian security officials in the killing.
Another diplomat said the Israeli raid has made it difficult for Syria to use channels it had previously used to relay peace messages to Israel, especially Turkey.
"Syria would appear very weak if it approaches Israel anytime soon. On the other hand Syria knows that any war with Israel would set it back decades," he said.
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of what you're talking about...There was relative peace. Syria attacked Israel from her vantage point in the Golan...Syria's problem is that she wasn't happy with the Golan and is miserable without it...Returning the Golan to Syria would only cause her to revert to her prior discontent..
The aggression was started by Syria in 1948, when she and four other Arab Armies attacked Israel..Plus the wars of 1956, 1967 & 1973.. 1967's war is when she lost the Golan... You can't fault a country, Israel, for defending itself when attacked...The fact that she conquered enmey land after being attacked is to her credit...Syria can bide it's time, it will get another beating...You of course, are safely tucked away in Calif., waiting for the next eartquake..
It appears that Syria is very pragmatic. They realize they have no choice right now but to just accept Israeli aggression, but should redouble their efforts to prepare themselves to deal very harshly with Israel in the future. The reality is power shifts throughout history and there will come a day when Syria can pay back Israel many times over. When that day comes, whoever is left in Israel will be cursing the stupidity of the Israelis that created this mess. Israel may be able to force its will on others today, but it will reap a terrible future when its many enemies return the favor. Israel can **NOT** kill its way to peace. Killing only ensures **WHEN** (not If) Israel falls, it will be another holocaust. Right now Israel has NO FUTURE, period. So all those that cheer the humiliation of Syria, be very careful in the future since you will not be cheering.
I had discussed this with one of the Arab posters about two months or so ago... Apparently you were too busy or dense to understand the water distribution... Israel has 7 million people, give or take a few thousand.. Arab Areas have 1.5 million. Combined total population is approx. 8.5 million. Arabs are receiving 30% of the fresh water. Jews are receiving 70% " " " " Based on the Arab population ratio, their allotment should be 12%. They're getting 30% Which indicates the Arabs are receiving 18% more than they're entitled to... Let us know if you think the Arab portion should be changed to what it should actually be...
Prior message was sent before I included the following: The Straits of Tiran On May 22, Egypt announced that the Straits of Tiran would be closed to "all ships flying Israel flags or carrying strategic materials", with effect from May 23 .[40]. The Arab Republic of Egypt established the breadth of its territorial sea at 12 nautical miles, pursuant to article 5 of the Ordinance of 18 January 1951 as amended by the Decree of 17 February 1958, in line with the provisions of article 3 of the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea.[4] Whereas article 23 of the Convention stipulates that the ships in question shall, when exercising the right of innocent passage through the territorial sea, carry documents and observe special precautionary measures established for such ships by international agreements, the Government of the Arab Republic of Egypt declared that it would require the aforementioned ships to obtain authorization before entering the territorial sea of Egypt, until such international agreements are concluded and Egypt becomes a party to them.
Are you really as simple minded as you make yourself appear?..Your cowardice is an established fact... Of course if was a "Water War"...Egypt as she had done in 1956, blocked a waterway to Israeli shipping...She closed the Suez to Israel's vessels, in violation of International Law.. In 1967, she closed the straits of Tiran to Israeli shipping, again in violation of International Laws...To enfore the closeure, she placed cannon at Sharm El Sheikh to enforce her ban..Cannon that I later saw, that had been spiked by the IDF... USS Liberty, a spy ship, entered a war zone... In all wars vessels have taken to sailing under false colors... The Liberty was in the South, in case you didn't know it, the Golan is in the North, unless they moved it for the war...
their book says,"kill the infidels wherever you can find them."oh tree,there's a jew behind you,kill him/her.is that peaceful?without "violence", their mahdi won't come.
why they squat in the land not theirs...for instance,I owned a land,fled to another country because of some persecution,stayed in that country for a while,came back to my land,found out,someone stole it,built their own house on my own land..I need my land back and you're my neighbor,you would tell me I was mean for driving away that squatter on my soil???????these palestinians got their name from a term palestine----I guess,the romans got what they wished, to erase jewish connection with their land ,"palestine".
After years of proffers of peace, Israel raided Syria (mission unknown, the tape ordering it self-destructed after orders were issued and no person in the know will say a word) (translation: it was not something you would brag about). So what if Syria's response is to withdraw the offer that Israel had refused? It was already clear that the current government of Israel had no interest in peace, and that Syria lacked the ability to make any direct response.
W: "Syria says peace with Israel is gone after raid...yet, Israel still left the door to peace open despite Syria`s blatant supplying of weapons to Hizbollah, destabilizing the North, and supporting Pal terrorists on its own land." Olmert spent months *before* this armed attack saying that Israel had no plans to attack Syrian soil. Then the Israelis committed an armed attack on Syrian soil. Then Olmert stood up again and said Israel had no further plans to attack Syria, so they should talk. Do you REALLY think any nation that has just been attacked - AFTER having been assured that it wouldn't be attacked - would then react by saying "Oh, well, sure, buddy, let's sit down and talk..." W: "So who really is an obstacle to peace?" ISRAEL, ya numbskull. THEY JUST ATTACKED SYRIA AFTER HAVING SAID FOR MONTHS THAT THEY WERE NOT GOING TO ATTACK SYRIA.
The Greek for:"It's already done."
Just drop the idea,before you really get sucked into the lie.You don't understand (illumination).
True character,brings out their truthful acts as well.It's going to be,very interesting real quick.
'An Israeli raid on Syria has all but finished off chances for resuming peace talks between the two foes, Syrian officials said on Monday. ' That would explain the timing of the raid. There was a looming threat of peace.
Ariel Sharon let it slip when he referred to the Six-Day War with Syria as the 'Water War!' Why do you suppose the USS Liberty was bombed by Israel one day before the assault on the Golan Heights? Israel had been violating the Armistice agreements prior to the Six-Day War. It is still a war for water, Ben. Israel continues to take Arab water... nature will have her revenge for such greed. Israel's thirst is increasing with her growing population and life style.
Khalid Israel needs to concentrate on peace with Lebanon rather than Syria get Hizbullah and the terrorists out the picture and you can have a stable government in Lebanon and for the right price can be talked into making peace and Israel can be an ally against Syrian trouble making. The Israelis in the north live in relative calm with their druze naighbors and they make up a thrid of the popluation in the Golan. Peace deals with Syria would hurt them not benefit them. What goes in in Syria is for Assad to sort out its not for Israel to give up the Golan so Assad can solve domestic problems.
Loss of the Golan would be a disaster for Israels loing term interests. Millions are earned through Golan exports which helps the economy. peace means over 30,000 people who currently live peacefully with their druze naighbors in the and make up a third of the population in the Golan are made homeless so you need to pay to find new homes for them, you have to find jobs which are not there, untill they get a job you need to pay unemployment. Pull out from the Golan and ordinary taxpayers will be paying the price of peace for the next decade. Security .. early warning stations, millitary bases & training facilities all lost along with strategic high ground. Water peace puts Assad very close to Israels water. Just because there is peace today doesnt mean there will still be peace tommorow when the Golan is gone. Syria has been no threat for over 30 years and thats not going to change overnight. Israel currently has the Golan and relative calm why give it up for Assads signature.
I now understand the meaning of war and peace Syrian style. Peace is when the Arab side kills Israelis wholesale with rockets from Hezbollah and Hamas, suicide bombings, and the proposed use of North Korean nuclear material. War is when Israel defends its very existence. If this is the case, lets forget about peace please. It is too dangerous.
With peace, you'd have to give up the Golan Heights. Better keep the tension up and hang on to them. Like the West Bank and Gaza.
Lebanon is it's own worst enemy...She allowed Arafat to hide there and perpetrate cross borders attacks...In the last war, Hezbollah launched her rockets from Lebanon... Israel & Syria aren't bickering...They have been at war since 1948, when Syria was a part of the five Arab armies that invaded Israel... She went to war against Israel in 1967...First she shelled Norther Israel and she had a pact with Nasser to attack Israel...Israel beat her again...In 1973, Syria joined Egypt and attacked Israel on Yom Kippur...This isn't what you may call bickering, it's warfare, with interruptions...Any hope that Syria had of getting the Golan returned, she can now put on the back burner...It isn't going to happen in the near of distant future...Israel isn't going to take a chance of Syria re-establishing her Armed forces on the Golan...
returning the Goland. No thanks. You can all go f--- yourselves. Should you feel the need for it, we will destroy you. It sucks to be a damascus civilian. They will be losers.
Syria says peace with Israel is gone after raid...yet, Israel still left the door to peace open despite Syria's blatant supplying of weapons to Hizbollah, destabilizing the North, and supporting Pal terrorists on its own land. So who really is an obstacle to peace?
They're YELLOW...You hit and run, never substaniate your fictions...It's high time you got down to business..Here's a reminder... Buck, take your medice like the deceiver you are... #299 Guess what, Ben Jabo!!! Name: ballistic City: henderson State: nv Gentiles, eh? Well, guess what, a quick check would show they are in good company with bunches of people over there who are `gentiles` claiming to be Jews although they may not be neo-Nazis, so you don`t want to go there. ? As for American soldiers, well, they saved you and your arses in the past and still do?; as for repute, well, they are probably on par with yours. How about it? Gentiles, he says, what BS. Name: * BEN JABO City: USA State: I asked a two relatively simple questions, gave you all sorts of options...Instead of giving an honest answer, you`re carrying on like a spoiled brat...All you`re capable of emanating is flatulence...All hot air, no substance... Prove me wrong, I dare you...I`m not pushing BS, just trying to extract an answer that has some validity...So far, you`ve been evasive. Get with it, try and come up with an intelligent answer...Your name calling indicates that you`re the bully who`s been called to put up or shut up and blusters to maintain it`s imaginary position... Ballistic, I`ll say it again..."You`re a fraud", prove me wrong
That Syrian offical:Is truly acting as though,he's going to give,peace out,somehow?Therefore it's a threat!
SYRIAN OFFICIAL SAYS THAT BECAUSE OF AIRFORCE RAID ,ISRAEL CAN FORGET ABOUT PEACE.THIS IS A FORTHRIGHT UNAMBIGUOS DECLARATION OF WAR .NEED IT BE SAID THAT A FIRST STRIKE ON ISRAEL WOULD BE ADVANTAGEOUS TO SYRIA. I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT A TENNIS MATCH WHEN I SPEAK OF 'ADVANTAGE'AND LOVE DOES'NT COME INTO THE GAME EITHER .ISRAEL IN THE CURRENT CIRCUMSTANCES MUST ATTUNE ITSELF MORE RAPIDLTY TO A FORTHCOMING WAR WITH A TERRIBLE ARRAY OF WEAPONRY.AS LORD BADEN POWEL THE FOUNDER OF THE SCOUT MOVEMENT SAID..."BE PREPARED".ARE WE?
I meant:Don't speak to the Devil,about peace. Sorry!
will win,he'll destroy the king of the north[syria].
Couldn't think about peace?What is meant,by that statement?
is about to happen?????????
in the bible....in the book of daniel...the king of the north[syria]would be destroyed,the king of the south[egypt]would not help him.indrajaya,israel won't be destroyed...God of Israel wil defend her from the russian invaders and its allies[the muslim world].remember this,okay...end time is near.
Lebaon should have made peace with Israeli years ago, and should never have allowed Hizbollah to dig its nasty roots into its soil. Wrong decision every time.
don't cry when the sniffles turn into plague in the fancy buildings in jakarta
I have full confidence that the fascist gangsters in damascus will facilate an outcome postive for Israel.I encourage them. PS My true colours have never been hidden.they are Blue and White.
Israel!should talk peace to the'Devil!'For he uses,ab(from ayin and aleph),in evil ways.As they talk,peace treaties etc.Eden tactics.
"He answered and said to Arioch the king's captain,"why is the decree from the king so urgent?" Then Arioch made the decision known to Daniyel" All someone has to do,is ask according to the "hockma of God",and we'll get answer's! This is ultimate,truth.
"That`s new news! They were probably also Jews farming in Honolulu!" Well ME, perhaps you should do some more observing. Plenty abuot it on Google and other reliable sources. The Golan was under Syrian rule for 19 years only and inhabited by Jews far longer than thaat, both before and since. Your account of the Palestinins history is very simplistic- my point is that although the Holocausst may have made Israel more necessary as an independent Jewish state, there were Jews there long before. Jewish settlements were also wiped out as far back as the 1920s, places where Jews had dwelt for generations, and Jews were killed in those times and in that war too. It was not a case of marauding invaders attacking harmless and defenceless civilians, as you claim- most left at the behest of Arab leaders who were sure they'd kill all the Jews in a week. And yes, many Jews came from Poland and Ehtiopia, because Israel is the historical and cultural homeland of the Jewish people .
Indrajaya, as usual, the genius response: "Revenge is a dish best served cold," quoting the Romans! Actually, it is from the novel Les Liaisons Dangereuses (1782) by Pierre Choderlos de Laclos. (Dangerous Liaisons) The saying exists in many cultures, including Sicilian (Mafia), Spanish and Pashtun (tribal Talibans). It also exist in the vocabulary of the N'drangheta (Calabrian crime syndicate). Good company for Syria! Poetry aside, Iran knows very well that missiles in Tel-Aviv mean nuclear devastation all over Farsiland. Syria can be added to the targets list anytime they wish.
to attack Isreal......I guess not...Syria knows that any war with Israel would set it back decades,"
Syria is like a dog. Who cares if there is peace. There hasn't been peace in 40 years. Its about time Syria stopped talking big. Did they realize everyone knows there is no bite to the barking they have been doing. They best they can do is shut up and sit or heel to Israels orders. After all, Israel is Syrias master and they can do whatever, and whenever they want to there stubborn pet. after 40 years of training and discpline, I doubt the dog can even bite if it tried.
But not with the Assad regime. The Israeli action has promoted peace, because it will weaken the dictatorship in Damascus, which will hopefully face soon the Hariri trial. The ill-fated Israeli PM Olmert has just expressed his respect for Assad. How many lawmakers in Lebanon will have to be killed by the Assad regime, until Ehud Olmert will have no more respect for this brutal oppressing leadership?
We still have no idea what the raid was about, howeversomuch it ticked off the Asad leadership. Meanwhile the "money shot" here is that Syria states it won't resume a direct attack on Israel and is already arming and facilitating an indirect proxy in Hezbollah so this seems to actually be the status quo continued when all is said and done.
So Israel bombed an empty area. Why should then Israel risk its best pilots and planes to fly across Syria down to the Iraqi border? It could have bombed an empty area much nearer to its own border. Why would the Arab world remain silent but North Korea very outspoken, if not a target involving its own people has been hit? Why is Syria not showing to the world this empty area? The reasons are clear: Syria cannot reveal anything because Israel would present the dirty business the Syrians were involved with. The Israeli silence is brilliant: Syria is paralysed. Concerning the arguments given by some fools on this forum, there is not only an empty area, but apparently a great emptiness of the mind involved.
I will be putting my money on the Lion Of Judah...my faith, hope and wishes too. People love to bring up history to back their point. Look up the history of Syria and study it because the future does not look so great.
Did you ever had any other erotic dreams in your life, becide,dreaming of Israels sufferings??? You moron,jump in the lake and stay there.
of Mitri Raheb of Bethlehem's International Meeting Centre: "Neither the Jews nor the Islamic Fundamentalists are any longer willing to suffer. They say they have suffered enough (Holocaust, Crusades). Both are wrong to think like that. For there doesn't exist a life without suffering." It's true. Many only believe in "the new strong Jew", and in a Jihad in all cases - even if you can get the end of occupation and peace as you want. Both attitudes do not make sense. Mostly of course in Israel-Palestine context.
Clickfool you be mourning Oswald Mosley whose mind was smilar to yours. While your Araba friends as working on better killing devices Israel is developing new medicines and Israeli agricultural institutions are growing better crops. Your nihilistic hateful approach will have its demise
Thank you for shutting up the lefties for a while.
"bombed an empty space". But, apparently, it hurt like hell!!!
There hasn't been a formal peace with Syria for the past 60 yrs, so what's new about this declaration?
Israeli has carried many flights in the past over Syria for Intel purposes. Even has satellites 24/7. why did this air raid, repelled right after enetering the Syrian airspace (according to the Syrian press), makes it a "forget about peace", and require such a condemnation and political anger?. Maybe a nerve was touched, a sensitive one?
After Yom Kippur we have some interesting themes: Syria saying no peace deal; Olmert being rebelled against on his vice's plans to split Jerusalem, and the AG proceeding against him too. Abbas is also rumoured to be pulling out of the Nov. Peace conference. And, umm, is Iran going to be next?
Assad refrained from making war lately. As the Israeli and US silence cannot be estimated highly enough. The above mentioned decisions derive from responsible thinking and a sound mind.
It goes to show you, Syria is only interested in talking peace with Israel while it secretly seeks to destroy it. If it was really interested in peace it would do so without seeking weapons with which to attack it at the same time.
"Many of Israels citizens are descendents of Jews who were here long before the Holocaust - some counting back ten generations. " So what? We know that, and we don't deny it like you do to the Palestinians. THOSE Jews are WELCOME. "So too was the Golan inhabited by Jews who farmed there and established religious communities and yeshivot. " That's new news! They were probably also Jews farming in Honolulu! "Does being children of Holocaust victims rule out our right to a country? " Being children of HS does not give you the right to inflict your pain on others and in larger doses.. because whole Palestinian villages were wiped out, whole families murdered, other expelled and their land confiscated for Ethiopians, Poles etc to live on! "On the other hand - we are kind of special, wouldn`t you think? Otherwise why would your idol Hitler have focused so much attention on us" ALL HUMANS are special. You are not superior nor inferior, and Hitler killer machine was blind!
Isarel,doesn't need any more dogs!Just like,the new testament context.
Better send in Asa!He forgets the lies,when he's day dreaming.
were the North Koreans so upset? They were growing olives out there and lost their crop?
Its funny how everyone in Govt,is using Israel's word,peace.
I wonder if you will hold us, USA, accountable for the missiles that the IDF drops on residential areas in Gaza and the West Bank, or are those not civilians that deserve protection also? Please dont get into the tired old ration of "they hide behind civilians and therefore its OK", Please. If we justify that then we are no better than the horrible subside bomber that justifies his murder. The IDF does not need to drop 1 ton bombs on an 8 story residential buildings for surgical killing ... imagine if that happens in Tel Aviv, as you said there would be hell to pay for those providing the missiles. I think the Arabs are sick of the double standard and that's why they hate us and not our freedom. wakeup world.
syria is the most coward and savage of Israel's enemies...They act when they have a big daddy backing them up,like egypt and the old soviet union...when the going gets tough,they are the first to run...in 1973,old assad had to shoot the runners in the back,for them not to flee...Now they are talking tough,from under the iranian wings...both w'll end up featherless pretty soon...
POOR LITTLE LEBANON, NORTH OF ISRAEL AND WEST OF SYRIA, THE WORST ENEMIES OF THIS HAPLESS STATE!
You write "Just dont cry when the first missiles reach the fancy buildings of Tel Aviv." On that day will you cry for the dead? Will you cry when Damascus and Tehran are turned into parking lots? Not you. You will only cry, as you have stated, when your dream of a world domination by militant Islam is dead. Start crying - it probably will not even pass your "country" or whatever it is.
Seems like someone is seriously embarrassed.
It is pretty clear that what was targeted was a nuclear weapons facility in the making supported by the democratic regime of North Korea. You are prepared to believe anybody but Israel and support anything that will do it harm. I truly believe that you get your "high" by constantly admonishing Israel. There are individuals, a recent medical study proves, that get an endorphin rush by criticizing others from an imagined position of moral superiority - it is addictive is it not fool? How active are you in the anti war movement in your country? What about bringing those in your armed services to justice for war crimes committed in Iraq and the Falklands? What steps are you taking that will lead to Great Britain destroying all of its nuclear weapons? What in the world can you possibly need them for? When you get your countries house in order come and preach your BS to us.
Why else the delay in response, and the orders not to go after Israel at the UN? They don't want the real truth about what was bombed to come out, even if it is not nuclear, but chemical-weapons related objects that were bombed.
Firstly clickfool yr pen-name is most apt. At least have the guts to attach your name to such a stupid message. Secondly, these Soft targets as you call them such as Islamic Jihad and Hamas hide, live and prepare their cruel and heinous terror operations amongst their own civilian populations. Lastly a large percentage of these civilians support, feed, and harbor these murderers. I wonder if your attitude would change if you were faced with the same murderous lot in Sussex.
Israel will not be able to continue strikes on Syria without an eventual retaliation. In the meantime Syria will continue to improve its missle technology. Face it, Ahmadinejad is right..... Israel's actions will lead to its demise. Probably from a shower of missles from Hezbollah and Syria.
Your post is sicker than sick - what's your excuse? Many of Israels citizens are descendents of Jews who were here long before the Holocaust - some counting back ten generations. So too was the Golan inhabited by Jews who farmed there and established religious communities and yeshivot. Does being children of Holocaust victims rule out our right to a country? Or does it make one more necessary than ever - so that murderous hordes never again get the chance to wipe us out WITHOUT SUFFERING THE CONSEQUENCES? On the other hand - we are kind of special, wouldn't you think? Otherwise why would your idol Hitler have focused so much attention on us. Sicko!
Hey Click, the road to the abyss is paved with "hard asses" like Iran, Syria, and company who bloviate over their "strength and power", but cower to "disproportionality" when their asses kicked!
He's going to try everything to boost his image - kill some Lebanese MP's and some Israeli civilians with terrorist bombs but it won't be enough..... PS. Shut up Voice of Maschiach your days are numbered too, inshallah
Why is Syria more entitled to the Golan Heights more than Israel is? It has actually been under Israeli rule twice as long as it was under Syrian rule (1948 - 1967) and there is is evidence of thousands of years of Jewish life and existence on the Golan Heights - remnants of more than 25 synagogues and enormous agricultural endeavor in the 19th and beginning of the 20th century on Jewish land purchased on the GH. It was seized by Syria in 1948 (by what right?) whereas in fact it had never belonged to it.
We have (more or less)had peace with Syria since 1973. They have not been good neighbors and have failed to benefit from trade or shared tourism but that loss has been to their detriment more than ours. The Lion of Damascus is somewhat flee bitten and lacking in tooth and claw. His refusal to seek 'peace' hardly spoils Israel's day. If he does strike a blow it will be by proxy and will serve to further weaken him in the long run.
listen man/woman your last comment is plainly ridiculous. leave political comments for common sense people. what you say about this unheard of impertinence to have a jewish israeli manager for a major club? at his best he may tackle soccer in the elementary schools league.
THE BEAUTIFUL VERDANT ROLLING SOUTH DOWNS OF SUSSEX ENGLAND - SO UNFORTUNATE THAT YOUR FEET STAIN THE BEAUTY OF ENGLAND AND YOUR EMPTY HEAD BREATHES IN THE AIR OF TOLERANCE, THAT COUNTRY AFFORDS THE LIKE OF YOU .WHAT UTTER RUBBISH YOU SPEW . YOU MAY HAVE RABIES GO GET YOURSELF CHECKED OUT . Jack FOR THE IAF and the IDF.
Peace is usually signed between equals, otherwise it is capitulation. Syria is a weakling and Israel has no reason to give them anything. This regime is a dog.
Syria should buy north Korean or Pakistani nuke weapons, no matter what the cost is. The next time IDF targets Syrian territory, they will have a good answer. This is if they have an dignity left.
I am not surprised by these events. Israel and the Bush Administration had no interest in a peace agreement. Without the prospect of peace and Arab support, Syria will be pushed closer to Iran. If Israel further escalates these aerial assaults, Syria will eventually be obliged to respond with conventionally armed missile attacks. Similarly if the Bush Administration, the E.U., and now France continues to push Iran or attack their nuclear facilities, Israel can expect missiles from that quarter. Again, these will be missiles with conventional warheads. Should you launch a ground assault against Syria, besides the missile attacks, you can expect a defense in depth that will chew the IDF to pieces. Look at Iraq for an example. I have told you this before, but it doesn't seem to register, Bush, your own government, and now the French are very, very stupid, and their stupidity will destroy Israel.
Damascus to be a suburb of Jerusalem? Why would we want such a NASTY SUBURB, like all the villages are not enough...
Removing the Golan from Israel was Syria's only objective. Talking with the Alawites has always been a waste of time. Syria inherited the Golan illegally during the Mandate period and abused their illegal gain by using the high ground to harrass and kill Israelis. Now the Golan is where it belongs. A war is coming and although Syria and their own axis of evil- Hamas in gaza and Hezbollah in Lebanon could inflict great damage and cause great pain in Israel, this coming war will result in such a destruction of Syria that peace will follow for a long time.
'Observor', I see clearly that you are not! Your comment is so full of holes its hard to pick out where to begin the argument against you. Look up Israel's pre-State history and then tell us which Jews built the country. Lets have no more of this post WW2 myth that Israel was served on a platter as gift for the Holocaust! As for Peace, understand that the dangerous game of brinkmanship was not created by the Israelis. Happy learning.
Bibi and co. from the warmongers camp will be VERY disppointed. As for Syria it has time on its side. If can retaliate at a place, date and time of its choice.... big daddy is sinking and won't be long for ever to support.
When some missile reaches some fancy building in Tel-Aviv; - in about 10 minutes Damascus will cease to exist as a geographic entity. As will probably Tehran, Abu-Dabi, and a few other geographical locations. By the way Syria tried all this stuff quite a few number times in the last 60 years. Somehow Syria always lost.
When that happens, don't be surprised if the sender of the missiles whether Damascus or Tehran will be obliterated. And whoever supplied those countries such missiles should be ashamed of themselves. In fact, missiles should not be sold like cakes in the market.
Yeah Right ! The one thing Syria does not want is peace. The whole regime and country is built on the so called state of war with Israel. The Syrians are weak and gutless. You spit in their face and they say the sky is raining. The sad thing is that the weakest country ( Lebanon) will continue to suffer as long as the Syrians and the Isarelis find it mutually beneficial to have the current status quo. It is too much to ask the Israelis to save Save lebanon. They did it in 1982 and a huge part of the lebanese to rebel against them. Once bitten twice shy. I wish though that Israel did not falter in it's last war in Lebanon because that situation is what bolstered teh Syrian confidence to dare I hate war but maybe the only way ahead if for total destruction of the Syrian power base. and in teh absence of a national uprising, Israel is the only Hope.
Peace does not exist among Islamist-Jihadists. In fact, they have been busy assasinating Christian Lebanese politicians in Lebanon, killing American nation builders and peace keepers in Iraq, and helping their thugs shoot rockets at Israel.
fake peace would only make g-d more mad. it would be another sellout movr by an Israeli minister again.
They openly and proudly support terrorists yet claim Israel's actions are reason for war? So that's where Comical Ali went after Iraq fell...
That you desire to keep the Golan and whether you will keep the Golan are two different matters. Careful now, your true colors are showing through which is if you delay long enough, the question will be forgotten about whose land the Golan is. That is unlikely. Regards.
Syria has to be patient and wait some few years more. Revenge is served cold, as say Romans. What Israel did is unacceptable and Syrians cannot trust anyone, but Iran. Just dont cry when the first missiles reach the fancy buildings of Tel Aviv.
and that explains why they enable hizbullah and harbor hamas: they want nothing to do with peace except keep it from happening.
If Syria is so wedded to being able to being a forward military platform for Iran that it was willing to risk dealing in N. Korean arms, there is little chance the peace talks would have been productive. It's beginning to look like there will be no peace in the region until the minority Allawites, allies with and kindred of the Shiites, are no longer in power in Syria, and Iran is no longer calling the shots on a regional dispute that is none of its business. How many more Palestinians will die for Iran?
Do you all know the Arab definition of Zionist agression? When Israel defends itself. Defending yourself often means not waiting to be attacked when a threat is upon you. Syria has been like a mini USSR for the last 50-60 years. Always instigating something. Peace with Syria is ont very different than war with Syria, except then you would have North Korean missles on the Golan. When does the Arab 'street' wake up and realize that the enemy is not the Jews in a state the size of New Jersey? It is their currupt leadership.
Of course Syria would not attack Israel, who wants to be sent back into the stone age anyway?
Syria never wanted peace in the first place. The Syrians are a riot. It's nice to know each diplomat can have their say and 5 minutes of fame. We Haaretz readers thank this diplomat for telling us what we already knew. I don't know whats funnier the sunday newspaper jokes or reading what this diplomat said.
Peace has long left the lexicon of Hebrew....if there is ever to be Peace, many Israelis, broken children of holocaust victims..need to seek therapy...it is perhaps the first nation ever invented who citizens, for the most part, were tramatized...what kind of offspring would this produce? You're seeing it...
"Syria says planes bombed an empty area after air defense systems confronted them." The IAF is used to bombing soft targets such as weak Palestinians. Bombing an empty area in Syria and then fleeing when confronted seems to fit the IDF's bravery and performance capabilities. Peace talks off the agenda. Mission accomplished.
What a dilemma for Syria. They who were the fastest runners to the UN-security council,now they have no hurry to complain of this flagrant Israeli invasion. I wonder why? I fought on the Golan hights, and let me tell you, the air there is wonderful. I remember Tel Fares, and Tel Bonita, I have to take a trip there for Sukkot. Chag Sameach to all Zionists
Syria's military capabilities will improve over time. There will be an Israeli raid at some point in time that will justify Syrian retaliation. Syria will not initiate military confrontation.
"The Israeli raid on Syria has all but finished off chances for resuming peace talks Syrian officials said." This is precisely the purpose of the Israel "raid" on Syria's "nuclear facility". With peace talks off the agenda, Israel can go back to its agenda of additional settlements and strengthening its hold on the stolen Golan Heights.
The President in his NEW YEARS SPEECH. "Now that the tension has eased between Syria and Israel we can engage in peace talks ". I did respond stating that was an unrealistic view of the situation and in fact the opposite is still holding true of belligerence and hostility. How can the President state a view 180 degrees wrong only a few days ago and not be answerable !!!!!!!!!!! MY RESPONSE IS ON RECORD WITH HAARETX AS IS THE PRESIDENTS NEW YEAR SPEECH. Jack.
Syrians living in a dream world? They have never been 'peace jockeys'.
This is pretty funny to read...."Syria was wary of retaliating against Israel given the military superiority of the Jewish state"..hehe, which clown wrote this column....must be pretty bad in translating arabic, please re-write this to what was actually said when Reuters interviewed these "officials".
a partner in peace process.
Step back and ask yourself - what is "peace" with Syria really worth? Answer - NOTHING. ZIPPO. What, so they can assassinate Israeli politicians, like they do in Lebanon, with whom they have "peace". So they can smuggle weapons to anti-government insurgents? Why imagine they would even honor "peace" commitments - Syria received Kuneitra back from Israel on condition they repopulate and rebuild it - they converted it into a military base - zero civilians. And look how they honor their IAEA/NPT obligations - illegal shipments from North Korea. The Golan was a daily hotspot from 1948-1967, Syrian raids and shelling into Israel from the heights; compare these 19 years with the 40 years in Israeli hands - ZERO cross-border hostilities into Syria from Golan; Syria was the problem. Germany lost land for its aggression, so should Syria. Golan wasn't part of historic Syria anyway, just an accident of the Brit-French division of the conquered Ottoman Empire in 1921, which had no legal authority.
Gee. I would have thought that arming a terrorist group who indiscriminately fire rockets and missiles at babies and other civilians would ruin chances for peace not the bombing of a nuclear armaments facility being used to arm those very same terrorists. What a backward world we live in!
Thank you Assad! Poor Olmert and company will sadly not be able to give up all of the Golan for a piece of paper that says Syria promises not to attack Israel. This is the best news I've read all day!!
So before the attck when they were up to no good with the freak kings of N Korea there was a real chance for peace??? is that the BS line now???It is clear syria never had any good intentions, they were looking to get the golan back by imposing a solution backed with some form of blackmail.Well many thanks to fools in Damascus.As far as I am concerned let them keep up the hostilities for another 100 years.By that time the Golan would have become an organic part of israel.Syria doeant deserve it anyway.it would be agreat gift to the israeli people and form of reparations for all the trouble the Fascist Gangsters in Damascus have caused.Lets not forget their torture of israeli pilots either, or the murder of the great hero Eli Cohen who exposed their vicious and deranged plots.Keep it up fools.
So before the attck when they were up to no good with the freak kings of N Korea there was a real chance for peace??? is that the BS line now???It is clear syria never had any good intentions, they were looking to get the golan back by imposing a solution backed with some form of blackmail.Well many thanks to fools in Damascus.As far as I am concerned let them keep up the hostilities for another 100 years.By that time the Golan would have become an organic part of israel.Syria doeant deserve it anyway.it would be agreat gift to the israeli people and form of reparations for all the trouble the Fascist Gangsters in Damascus have caused.Lets not forget their torture of israeli pilots either, or the murder of the great hero Eli Cohen who exposed their vicious and deranged plots.Keep it up fools.