• Published 00:00 17.10.07
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Syria denies it confirmed target of IAF strike was nuclear facility

Syria's UN envoy quoted as telling UN disarmament panel that September 6 raid targeted nuclear installation.

By Barak Ravid and Haaretz Service Tags: Syria UN

Syria denied Wednesday its representatives to the United Nations had confirmed that an Israel Air Force strike last month targeted nuclear facility, and added that such facilities do not exist in Syria, state-run news agency said.

The Syrian Arab News Agency, SANA, quoting a foreign ministry source, said that Syria had made it clear in the past that there are no such facilities in Syria.

On Tuesday, a UN press release sent after a meeting of the First Committee, Disarmament and International Security, in New York paraphrased Syria's UN ambassador, Bashar al-Jaafari, as saying that a nuclear facility was hit.

"Israel was the fourth largest exporter of weapons of mass destruction and a violator of other nations' airspace, and it had taken action against nuclear facilities, including the 6 July attack in Syria," the release paraphrased al-Jaafari as saying, in an apparent error as to the date of the September 6 air strike.

Syria has confirmed that the target of an IAF raid deep within its borders last month was a nuclear facility, Israeli Foreign Ministry officials said Wednesday.

The comments were first reported to Israel by Foreign Ministry Deputy Director General for Strategic Affairs Miriam Ziv, who took part in the UN meeting.

In an official response, the Foreign Ministry confirmed the content of Ziv's report, but declined further comment.

The comments follow a Saturday New York Times account, which said that the attack targeted a partially built nuclear reactor that was years away from completion.

Israeli officials have been largely silent about the affair. The military only recently relaxed censorship to allow Israel-based journalists to report that Israeli aircraft attacked a military target deep inside Syria.

Syrian President Bashar Assad has maintained that Israel bombed an "unused military building" in the raid.

The Times said the nuclear reactor was modeled on one North Korea had used to create its stockpile of nuclear weapons fuel. North Korea has denied involvement in any such activities in Syria.

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  • 211. 0 0
    #210, Mark T to Johnboy...
    • Silvienne
    • 19.10.07
    • 19:09

    "I have every reason to believe that Israel has back up plans and strategies well developed for the unlikely chance that the US will suddenly make a 180 degree abut face" I certainly can't share your optimistic opinion on this. I believe that, as Johnboy says, Israel is certain that America will always "be there for it"...and can't imagine a time this may not be so. Otherwise, how to explain the cavalier manner in which Israel treats American friendship, i.e., promising America to dismantle the illegal outposts in the WB, and not doing it. That is just one example of how casually Israel takes America for granted.

  • 210. 0 0
    Johnboy--hubris
    • Mark T
    • 19.10.07
    • 14:24

    Actually, Johnboy, I think if you looked at policy as well as hubris, one could say Ye who are without hubris cast the first aspersion.. While you make several good points, they are neither based on fact, nor reality. While Israel is indeed closely allied with the US and US policies, Israel survived, and grew at a rapid pace it's first 20 years without the support or aid of the US. I doubt that Israeli leadership has decided that the US will ALWAYS support Israel and never waver. I have every reason to believe that Israel has back up plans and strategies well developed for the unlikely chance that the US will suddenly make a 180 degree abut face. If anything, it is hubris to ASSUME otherwise.

  • 209. 0 0
    #203 WWACD asks me a question
    • Johnboy
    • 19.10.07
    • 01:50

    WWACD: "Let me ask you this: Do you really think that 'two states for two peoples', 67` borders AND ROR are compatible or do you see that the third negates the previous two?" You are wrong, because there is NO demand that Israel accept ALL these refugees, which you would know if you stopped talking only to your like-minded zionist buddies, and actually listened to what the other side is saying. The Arab Initiative says this: ?Achievement of a just solution to the Palestinian refugee problem to be agreed upon in accordance with UN General Assembly Resolution 194" UN GA 194 does NOT insist that Israel MUST take back all the refugees. It says that Israel must accept responsiblity for them becoming refugees, and must provide mutually agreed upon restitution to those she dispossessed. Israel has to BRIBE them to go away, and Israel simply wants to HAND-WAVE them away. Abbas, the Pals, and the Arab Nations are having none of that, and nor should they.

  • 208. 0 0
    #203 WWACD plonks his hubris on the table again
    • Johnboy
    • 19.10.07
    • 01:41

    WWACD: "If you thought the side you are rooting for was winning, why get so excited?" I did not say the Palestinians are WINNING; they have been under occupation for 40 years, which is hardly a "winning proposition". What I am pointing out is that you should not assume that YOUR side will always be in a winning situation. Lots of nations have came out of the blocks fast, knocking over all comers, and enter the home straight miles in front. And then SPLAT!!! And they never see it coming, so they never factor that in. So when they *do* get SPLATTED!! it is all the worse for them. Israel is utterly reliant on the unquestioned and unquestioning subservience of US policy to Israeli needs for her survival, WWACD. She takes it for granted, and so crafts her policies on that assumption. Which is foolish hubris, and you are one of the worst offenders.

  • 207. 0 0
    WWACD, would you like to hear...
    • Silvienne
    • 18.10.07
    • 18:27

    ...my peace plan proposal, by any remote chance? Because I'm not writing it out unless you're going to bother to read it, you know.

  • 206. 0 0
    #199, WWACD, I didn't write #135
    • Silvienne
    • 18.10.07
    • 18:25

    A "fanfic" is one of those essay-type stories written and posted on the Internet by fans of certain books or films..such as, there are "fanfics" for and above the film "Interview with a Vampire" and Anne Rice's vampire novels. And I should know this, because my friend writes and posts some of them, and tedious they certainly are.

  • 205. 0 0
    #192Johnboy part uno (second try - *sigh* morning censor is back)
    • WWACD
    • 18.10.07
    • 11:32

    If you thought the side you are rooting for was winning, why get so excited? Last I checked the map the Arabs were in the same place we left them the last time they gave us a dirty look, licking their wounds and vowing revenge (haven't heard that one before). I can speak for the country I live in and say that we all (actually that's not entirely true, but a large majority of voting age citizens for sure) want peace but we are not going to give in to force. If the Arabs take for granted that they are going to get the land behind our old borders, they will not consider it a settlement but a starting point to BEGIN negotiating. And so they should wise up to the fact that nothing is given and time is working against them. Can you attest to the Arabs' (who you know not first hand) good intentions? Let me ask you this: Do you really think that "two states for two peoples", 67' borders AND ROR are compatible or do you see that the third negates the previous two? Peace Through Victory

  • 204. 0 0
    Johnboy part deux
    • WWACD
    • 18.10.07
    • 10:36

    Now mind this Johnboy: Against my better judgment I afforded your post the seriousness I would grant someone who really wants to discuss the issues. I predict that you (or one of your buddies) are going to be a dick about it and then we go back to playing the insult game (at which you know I excel and have schooled the a$$ off every one of my sparing partners here). If you can keep a civil tongue (so to speak) I will continue to address you accordingly. Cordiality, you shall find, is not contingent on concurring with other's beliefs or their understanding of a given situation. I'm sure you find it every bit as annoying as I do that some people don't "understand" your take on the conflict but on this occasion we will be adults about it and see who blinks first. God Bless, chief Peace Through Victory

  • 203. 0 0
    Johnboy
    • WWACD
    • 18.10.07
    • 10:26

    If you thought the side you are rooting for was winning, why get so excited? Last I checked the map the Arabs were in the same place we left them the last time they gave us a dirty look, licking their wounds and vowing revenge (haven't heard that one before). I can speak for the country I live in and say that we all (actually that's not entirely true, but a large majority of voting age citizens for sure) want peace but we are not going to give in to force. If the Arabs take for granted that they are going to get the land behind our old borders, they will not consider it a settlement but a starting point to BEGIN negotiating. And so they should wise up to the fact that nothing is given and time is working against them. Can you attest to the Arabs' (who you know not first hand) good intentions? Let me ask you this: Do you really think that "two states for two peoples", 67' borders AND ROR are compatible or do you see that the third negates the previous two? Peace Through Victory

  • 202. 0 0
    #196 You fail the Commonsense Test, Margie
    • Johnboy
    • 18.10.07
    • 10:23

    M: "Delaying the whole thing, keeping the whole region in a state of uproar and unease has been the tactic of the Arab League/Palestinians." And to what benefit? ISRAEL gains because they claim Res 242 says: IF a final settlement is never reached THEN they can occupy indefinitely. So their vested interest is to prevaricate, because that brings no cost upon them: The Pals either give up and accede to all Israeli demands OR Israel just keeps bleeding the land dry; using the water HERE, expropriating a bit of land THERE, etc. No such luxury for the Arabs nor the Pals; this conflict feeds Iranian influence (weakening the arab nations) and the Pals stay under the boot of the Israelis. THEY want this ended, but the end product must be a viable state, or it won't have ended at all. Israel refuses, because it doesn't CARE wether that state is viable; it only cares about getting what it wants from it. Simple, pure, Israeli selfishness.

  • 201. 0 0
    #189 WWACD's mantra
    • Johnboy
    • 18.10.07
    • 09:54

    WWACD: "Peace Through Victory" All expansionist, imperialist nations have had that mantra, WWACD. All of them take their Victory!! as a given. None of them have ever stopped to calculate the likely cost should that victory prove elusive. And all of them are always shocked shitless when they wake up one day, look at the Big Ol' Battle Map, and exclaim: "Hey! What's going on? We're loosing!?!?!?!?" Maybe you should stop once in a while a tote up those risks, my friend, coz we all know what happens to those who decide to live by the sword.....

  • 200. 0 0
    #192 Why did you call it a "withdrawal", Stephen?
    • Johnboy
    • 18.10.07
    • 09:45

    Sharon was very, very careful not to call it a withdrawal, Stephen. S: "Johnboy, there's a response to you also at that thread about the Israeli withdrawal from Gaza, an opportunity fot the Pals that you fail to comprehend." Sharon REDEPLOYED the IDF, Stephen, and explicitely laid the legal groundwork in his Disengagement Plan to ensure that Gaza remained forever under Israeli belligerent occupation. A con trick, in other words, played by Sharon for a completely different reason than you have obviously been led to believe. And if the Pals hadn't resisted then Sharon would have gone on to his REAL game plan; use THAT disengagement as justification for repeating it in the West Bank, ensuring a de facto annexation of 10%+ of THAT land by "disengaging" to the separation wall. There was no "opportunity" for the Pals in that Gaza disengagment; the "opportunity" was meant for Sharon; only his brain exploded, and his successor had/has no brain at all.

  • 199. 0 0
    Silvienne - Always pleased to meet a fan
    • WWACD
    • 18.10.07
    • 09:31

    "#135, Fox re Hannah" Fox? *chuckle* Even a dyslexic one at that. Doesn't Fox have a rich enough body of work without you attributing my stuff to him Dunno what a 'fanfic' is. Please elaborate Don't sell yourself short, sweetheart Your posts, though boring, are written in very (I don't get to say this a lot on these talkbacks, so pardon my excitement) competent English. Come clean now. How many A-levels did you take you clever girl, you? Why I'm willing to bet you even completed you GED (equivalent). God Bless, hon Peace Through Victory

  • 198. 0 0
    A tangled web of lies
    • Margie in Tel Aviv
    • 18.10.07
    • 09:28

    "nuclear facility, and added that such facilities do not exist in Syria, state-run news agency said." Despite the fact that the IAEA has confirmed the existence of one, there are none. Oh dear, "what a tangled web we weave when first we practise to deceive."

  • 197. 0 0
    Silvenne, Johnboy
    • Stephen
    • 18.10.07
    • 09:21

    I replied to your last posts to me at the Report: Israel Attacked a Syrian nuclear plant" thread that I don't know if you are still monitoring and won't be up much longer. That the Iranian nuclear threat is to the US and not just Israel. Johnboy, there's a response to you also at that thread about the Israeli withdrawal from Gaza, an opportunity fot the Pals that you fail to comprehend.

  • 196. 0 0
    Johnny boy
    • Margie in Tel Aviv
    • 18.10.07
    • 09:10

    Delaying the whole thing, keeping the whole region in a state of uproar and unease has been the tactic of the Arab League/Palestinians.\ It's always a case of show you're dissatisfied, stamp your little foot and demand more.

  • 195. 0 0
    #151 Well, its an honest opinion, TonyL
    • Johnboy
    • 18.10.07
    • 08:40

    Not too sure about the legality/morality, though... Your argument seems to be: 1) Israel irks easily 2) If Syria did/has/seeks something that irks Israel (remember, she irks easily) then.. 3) Israel is within her rights to bomb the crap out of it, because.. 4) Bombing the crap out of it gets Israel out of its funk. That's about it, isn't it, TonyL? Well, this would certainly make the world a much more, ahem, "interesting" place if all nations took that view about int'l affairs. Tell me, though, TonyL: what would happen if Israel started building something that irked Syria? Would you simply shrug your shoulders and say "Olmert had it comin' to him, I guess...." if the Syrians whacked that irksome little Israeli facility? TL: "in the military intelligence department I completely trust Israeli brain trust" Funniest thing I've heard all day!

  • 194. 0 0
    WHEN SYRIA PREVARICATES.......
    • Dagma
    • 18.10.07
    • 08:38

    it means Syria is guilty and lying! It is plain as the nose on your face......

  • 193. 0 0
    #158 - Hana'
    • WWACD
    • 18.10.07
    • 08:32

    *chuckle* Good one I don't know whether if this was from a witty impostor or if it is the real Hana' taking the piss. You guys are funny Peace Through Victory

  • 192. 0 0
    #149 Let's just tough it out, says WWACD
    • Johnboy
    • 18.10.07
    • 05:57

    WWACD: "All of a sudden 'Palestine' was a given, a mere starting point to negotiations." *sigh* And in that Israel has simply accepted what everyone else has been saying to BOTH SIDES since Res 181. And repeated ad nauseum since 1947 - there has to be *two* states; "Israel" and "Palestine". WWACD: "The question was no longer: Do we give them a country? It isn't Israel's decision to GIVE. It is only within Israel's power to DELAY. WWACD: "It had become: Which borders are we going to return to 67` or 47`?" The Pals have ALREADY said they will accept the '67 borders, so why don't you zionists stop talking among *yourselves* and actually listen to the other side? WWACD: "a) The Arabs have nothing to offer in the negotiations other than need" The "Arabs"? Or the "Pals"? They are offering PEACE, and is something that Israel also "needs", if it can ever raise its gaze from its navel. Hubris, writ large....and written by WWACD.

  • 191. 0 0
    The raid (Mark Lincoln #157)
    • Tosefta
    • 18.10.07
    • 05:53

    Mark, I will think about it. Too tired now. T

  • 190. 0 0
    Tossi to Cath (#158): are you OK dude?
    • Jewboy
    • 18.10.07
    • 05:32

    That was a very strange "poem." Are you drunk? I'm worried about you, old man. Get a hold of yourself, please, it's embarassing. Like watching Arafat's face tremble when he talked, due to the disease...

  • 189. 0 0
    Actually Dear Hannah # 84 I DO Read Arabic, Speak It And Write
    • Dick Hertz
    • 18.10.07
    • 05:13

    it. In fact, probably better than the natives. Don't let my nome de guerre fool you. Your version may have skipped the few pages wherein it is COMMANDED to slaughter the Jewish "dogs", the Christian "pigs" (they call Jews Dogs cause it ain't kosher to call them pigs so it was reserved for Christians) and any other non-believers. You may want to learn Arabic and study the Quran again. Perhaps it will help you reconnect with your Zionist past. On second thought, God forbid! We don't want you. You may contaminate the gene pool. Ma ek el Sallam.

  • 188. 0 0
    HA HA TOLD YOU SO (POST #19)
    • Alex
    • 18.10.07
    • 05:05

    FOOL, nothing but stupid typicak jewish fools.. So desperate for a something to cling onto they will believe any lie printed in the press.. The humiliation of last years war has caused this effect.. what israel hit was insignificant and was a failed mission. believe me if it was a successful target on a secret nuclear location Syrian press would have never made a media release

  • 187. 0 0
    re: Clickfool
    • Efox
    • 18.10.07
    • 04:40

    There are many good labs in New Mexico, labs where facts can be discerned, where science takes precedence over ideology. It is a fact that Israel has had the ability to eradicate the Islamic World for Decades, but restrains itself due to superior ethics alone. It is also a fact that America has this ability and Russia once did, but has lost that power. Russia can not stop Israel. So Eurabians can either stop cheering the Mullahs on in the vane hopes that they will somehow, due to sheer numbers and nastiness, wipe out Israel without being eradicated in the attempt, or Eurabians can admit their objectives and accept the consequences of such treachery.

  • 186. 0 0
    WWACD - I'm splitting my sides here!
    • Dakkar
    • 18.10.07
    • 04:14

    I really enjoy reading your posts - you're a wizard. Kossem amiti !

  • 185. 0 0
    Fox re: Labhras...
    • Silvienne
    • 18.10.07
    • 03:56

    "A dominatrix may do the trick" It's a good thing you don't hire one; you'd disappoint her probably, that's if you didn't bore her to death with your meandering talking/writing... Best regards Keep writing!

  • 184. 0 0
    #135, Fox re Hannah
    • Silvienne
    • 18.10.07
    • 03:53

    "What ever else you do when you sit your fat a$$ down to defecate your desperate, frustrated bile on the web, you have yet to make a single argument" You have yet to make a single argument yourself, being busy as you are with composing these little gems. Why not compose what is known as "fanfics"? The piece above would not be wasted in the sands of time then, would it? Keep writing! Your devoted fan... Peace Through Paperbacks

  • 183. 0 0
    #128,FOX...to American
    • Silvienne
    • 18.10.07
    • 03:50

    "share with us your angst, and your unbridled hatred to your fellow Moslems, all because some uncle of the Prophet did not get to sit at the head of the caliphate. Your mind, I suspect is an anthropologists gold mine, a Pandora`s box of neuroses and suicidal delusions" No, I was wrong about the trashy paperbacks...you are writing this stuff yourself. Did you ever think of becoming an author for a living? Don't.

  • 182. 0 0
    #118, WWACD re: Hannah
    • Silvienne
    • 18.10.07
    • 03:48

    "As for Hannah, could she be a whispy angelic figure of a woman, brown breasted heart beating joy, her fingers gently stroking the head feathers of her man`s hunting hawk" Have you been reading those drugstore paperback romance novels again, Fox?

  • 181. 0 0
    #80, Dick Hertz...
    • Silvienne
    • 18.10.07
    • 03:41

    Dick to Hannah: "You are destroying the world with your insanity" No, that's Bush..

  • 180. 0 0
    #70, WWACD
    • Silvienne
    • 18.10.07
    • 03:39

    "Hannah is probably some bitter, fat, pimply lesbo from Baltimore that lives in her parents basement impotently projecting her seething hate and inadequacies on a unfeeling computer monitor" You stole that line straight out of an videogame newsgroup populated by adolescent boys having a slanging match...

  • 179. 0 0
    The advantage of using one's head (Sarah #127)
    • Tosefta
    • 18.10.07
    • 02:31

    "There was an interpretation error made yesterday when the First Committee was in session," UN associate spokesman Farhan Haq said. "There was no use of the word nuclear." - Haaretz I guess this settles the matters. The advantage people who use their heads have over others is that they can anticipate what will happen, and in general understand the world better. There are only few of us here. You can either join us, or join the Oylem/Goylem (masses/asses). My suggestion: See where Cipora goes, then choose the other way.

  • 178. 0 0
    Johnboy---egg
    • Mark T
    • 18.10.07
    • 02:30

    Rather than egg on Shlomo's face, there is egg on the N's face...but then, the UN deserves much more then egg IMO.

  • 177. 0 0
    # 72 Tess
    • Lynn
    • 18.10.07
    • 02:30

    Seems you are absolutely correct. Interpreted incorrectly according to the UN. Good enough for me.

  • 176. 0 0
    Roger Bannister
    • Connie
    • 18.10.07
    • 02:19

    Everytime a post like yours pops up I have to reach for an aspirin to calm me down. I honestly do not have words nice enough to tell you what I think you are....I have a higher opinion of a snake than I do of you...You are a liar...a hater....a distorter of the truth....and a bigot. It makes no sense going over the facts with you...it would be equivalent to spitting in the wind so suffice it to say you are a bore with no understanding of the truth.

  • 175. 0 0
    Lies for Guys
    • Mark Lincoln
    • 18.10.07
    • 02:09

    "The Times said the nuclear reactor was modeled on one North Korea had used to create its stockpile of nuclear weapons fuel." - the NY Times, quoted as a source by Haaretz This is the same trick used by the Bushiz in 2002. Leak a story to the NY Times, and when they print it as speculation, cite it as proof. North Korea did not design the gas cooled, graphite moderated reactor it used to create it's plutonium. Nor did they manufacture it. North Korea could not manufacture such a reactor today. Thus the story is false. But, we are told, because the NY Times printed what it was leaked, it must be true.

  • 174. 0 0
    Sexy Lies, Truth and Haartz Reporting
    • Mark Lincoln
    • 18.10.07
    • 02:06

    I find it very curious that though the rest of the world is well aware of the totally fraudulent nature of this story, the press in the US and Israel - almost alone - continue to treat it as 'fact." The patron saint of modern conservatives, Adolf Hitler, said of his "Big Lie", that when you tell a lie, tell a whopper and then keep repeating it until everyone believes it. No doubt that was sound advice 80 years ago, and certainly this story proves it was sound advice today - IF you want to sell a big lie.

  • 173. 0 0
    Slowman's wisdom on skipping posts
    • Barak Ravid
    • 18.10.07
    • 01:52

    If you've lost your enthusiasm, there's no better place to find it than on a skipping break. And, you might just find your lost time as well! People ask why I skip and I give the incomparable reason of "why not?" There's another powerful benefit of skipping which is that it adds anger and negative energy to the world. I think skipping could be the answer to many of our boredom problems. Time sure flies when you skip an hour.

  • 172. 0 0
    #65 Actually, Shlomo, the UN has just said "oops!"
    • Johnboy
    • 18.10.07
    • 01:40

    S: "On Tuesday, a UN press release sent after a meeting of the First Committee, Disarmament and International Security, in New York paraphrased Syria`s UN ambassador, Bashar al-Jaafari, as saying that a nuclear facility was hit." And today: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/914117.html the UN admits it went back to the original transcript and now says the translation was in error, and NOBODY said that the building that was struck was a "nuclear facility". S: "end of arguments." Apparently so, Shlomo. BTW, there appears to be egg on your face....

  • 171. 0 0
    Chatterbox Cathy #155
    • Tosefta
    • 18.10.07
    • 00:36

    I said Chatterbox I said ya squalk a lot C`mon gimma some lips Yeah Chatterbox I call you up Don`t give me no line I`m comin in your home On the chatterline All dressed up I got nowhere to go Seems like fun night On the computer, oh C`mon c`mon c`mon Yeah Chatterbox C`mon c`mon c`mon Yeah Chatterbox

  • 170. 0 0
    #40 17 Israel - Serial warmongering invader!
    • Maureen Ann
    • 18.10.07
    • 00:26

    Don't forget, Israel silently sits on a stash of nuclear weapons/Dimona is clearly seen on Google Earth. We saw it on TV world news a couple of days ago! Israel is setting the standards in the M.E. - might get interesting, don't you think?

  • 169. 0 0
    Tosefta - what we know about the raid
    • Mark Lincoln
    • 18.10.07
    • 00:26

    We know that somehow Israeli drop tanks ended up in Turkey and Syria as well as Israel has stated a raid happened. We know that a vast number of leaks have emanated from the US administration and in some cases they have specified target areas. We also know that satellite photos of the region show NO facilities typical of a nuclear weapons program or reactor were present in those areas. We also know that a number of third party journalists have been to the purported target areas (as identified by US 'sources") and they have verified that there was no evidence of an attack in those locations. Finally, we know that no North Korean ship has called at the port identified during the time frame cited. For a fairly concise, but not exhaustive, report see: http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/war/070906-airstrike.htm The evidence certainly discredits the reports being put out by neoconservative sources. You once suggested the raid was a contract job for the US. Might have been.

  • 168. 0 0
    Foreign Ministry Deputy Director General for Strategic Affairs
    • Esther
    • 18.10.07
    • 00:24

    Miriam Ziv heard the Iranians admitting it and I don't think that all Israeli officials lie. She was there she heard it.

  • 167. 0 0
    # 149 WWACD...On Toughness a Quote to me By Yonatan Netser .
    • KATH'
    • 18.10.07
    • 00:12

    WWACD You are quite correct,taking things too seriously while in "talkback"understadbly. The quote I have here came from Yonatan Netser to me at the time,and it corresponds almost verbatim to yours.Odd that.Quote is here: On Talkback, we can all be jerks. So never get "flumoxed" because these internet people are just that, cyberspace shadows. Take them as seriously as you wish. They can`t shoot, they don`t bleed, and, most of all, most of the time they can`t be taken too seriously. Peace Through Victory Indeed!!

  • 166. 0 0
    #138 And Margie knows for a fact that wasn't what Israel hit...
    • Johnboy
    • 18.10.07
    • 00:09

    M: "One was clearly about phosphates" And Syria extracted the uranium from it to USE THE PHOSPHATE. That makes it a nuclear FACILITY, Margie, under IAEA sponsorship. And YOU "know" for a fact that this isn't the sort of Syrian facility that the IAF attacked, Margie???? M: "you said of the other that it mentioned Syria several times one mention was about Rinderpest (vet. disease) one about low thyroid in babies and the third sounds very like the single miniature facility I mentioned." And YOU "know" for a fact that these aren't the sort of Syrian facilities the IAF attacked, Margie???? The NYT "quotes" someone in the US who was "told" by someone in the Administration that the Israelis "told" Bush that this was a Syrian REACTOR. Chinese whispers, Margie, and I wouldn't be surprised one whit if it turns out that Israel whacked a Syrian facility for the treatment of thyroid problems in babies. They had plenty of similar "oops" moments in Lebanon last year, Margie.

  • 165. 0 0
    Stupid Israeli
    • Stuart Baxter
    • 17.10.07
    • 23:53

    Here we have a women that wasn't even at the meeting pretending to have overheard a Iranian admitting to having a nuclear plant attacked by Israel, while all the time she was lying through her Zionist teeth, she wasn't even present but was taken for a ride by a false paraphrasing by an interpreter. So all she did was to lie in that old fashion way that Zionist praise so high, how come no one left of Hitler believed her???? The right wing fascist scum that almost lives here had no problem with the lies, they thrive on them. It makes you wonder, who raised these filth? "UN blames interpreter`s error for report that Syria has a nuclear facility (AP)"

  • 164. 0 0
    # 137 Tosefta Rabid Fox on the loose??
    • KATH'
    • 17.10.07
    • 23:51

    But Tossi Fox is not bothering you,or interfering with your points is he? Just a bit of humility will not come amiss from you, professor of ?Talmud? will it? Has he approached you? No he just tries to put his points against you and you just turnaround and bring in the ?old chestnut? of poor Rabin?s murder. As far as I can detect not once did he touch on the subject. Seems to me you are paranoic toward our lovely Fox. Leave him alone,he is one of my favourites here and I take it upon myself to protect his reputation. I could not believe what I read a couple of days ago regarding the ?rabid dog? found in the north of the country and you feeling glee about it. Don?t you know rabies kills! Now,now; dear Tosefta be a good fellow and more amenable toward not only toward Fox but also toward our dear Cipora, Jeff Northridge too. They are both very accommodating and very patient individuals you will never find anywhere else. Oh yes?couldn?t help notice your praises toward the woman called Rebekah S. Now then, come clean because we know it was you assuming the name to further your responses. We all noticed it was quite obvious. Nevermind eh, we don?t really care. Hey, Tossi ,shall I send you some of Winston Churchill?s wisdoms here? Nah I will not bother, not this time. Keep up with your Talmud work, otherwise it is an ill thing indeed to knock against a deaf imbecile, if etc,etc .Get my meaning Tosefta?

  • 163. 0 0
    # 146 TonyL..Welcome Aboard! You Have Echoed My Feelings..
    • KATH'
    • 17.10.07
    • 23:25

    Tony hello We have Cipora here,have you not noticed. I do miss her well ballanced,patient responses which I could never achieve.I will send her a quicky in hopes Haaretz puts it out. Now the discussion on the never ending the actual scenario to verify exactly what occurred during the IAF's incursion into Syria. I accept it and will not question it.The Secret Services did not just decide on the spur of the moment without due reference before embarking on it.Like you I care not so long as the (alleged or not)by our troops to curtail our northern neighbour's ambition and its aim. We are Both on the same page

  • 162. 0 0
    WWACD & Fox
    • Hannah
    • 17.10.07
    • 23:11

    She's just this mouth-breathing, floppy breasted woman with a snail's trail of snot to her mouth who never washes properly. She's the kind that shouts insults to the bricklayers and plasterers because they never whistle at her when she passes them.

  • 161. 0 0
    Sarah #127
    • TonyL
    • 17.10.07
    • 22:58

    Are you also a Syrian apologist? I can understand Clickfool, Hannah, Labhras and all the other weirdos here who twist the facts. I have a guess that at least some of them are getting petrodollars for sowing demoralisation among us. But what about you? How can you twist such an obvious sentence? Actually the way the above mentioned are performing here, they are so far away from petro dolalrs you could not have founded them with the telescope. Tosefta, on the other hand is Israeli bashing ready & willing & scholarly prepared enough for the part time, secondary role in the ME subject discussions to command some petro dollars precisely for try & twist the obvious.

  • 160. 0 0
    FOX, Cipora: There is a pattern to Tossi...
    • Jewboy
    • 17.10.07
    • 22:41

    The more worthy the opponent, the more nasty Tossi gets in his responses. His debate strategy is based mainly on personal attacks. Keep pounding him, this is the best response when dealing with a bully. Regards, Jewboy

  • 159. 0 0
    Sarah
    • Margie in Tel Aviv
    • 17.10.07
    • 22:34

    Take no notice of Tosefta. If he has nothing else to say he weighs in with insults. He apparently thinks it adds to his charm or to the impression of intellectual gravitas or wards off further challenges to his 'authority'. This message would ordinarily have earned a comment on my shallowness (if he'd remembered that this was his diagnosis of my state for this week) but now it will be ignored or earn a paternal reproof. One of his airheaded sidekicks might yet allocate me some arbitrary rank in a ridiculous listing that reminds one of those mechanical 1970s sci-fi movies with the glossy hair piled up in towers and overmade up eyes featuring 'futuristic' machinery and talking computers.

  • 158. 0 0
    Trips
    • Mark T
    • 17.10.07
    • 22:34

    Speaking of traveling....I plan to visit Israel in May next year. would any posters like to gt together for coffee...tea or..PIZZA?!?!?! I haven't *set* the itinerary for me my mother and a friend of hers, yet, but have some ideas of where I'd like to go and do and see. We'll likely be crossing into Israel via Taba and will hve a week or so in Israel. I know...a whirlwind trip...but I have only just so much vacation time..AND funds, working at Home Depot, don't ya know. Mark-

  • 157. 0 0
    Sarah
    • Margie in Tel Aviv
    • 17.10.07
    • 22:33

    Take no notice of Tosefta. If he has nothing else to say he weighs in with insults. He apparently thinks it adds to his charm or to the impression of intellectual gravitas or wards off further challenges to his 'authority'. This message would ordinarily have earned a comment on my shallowness (if he'd remembered that this was his diagnosis of my state for this week) but now it will be ignored or earn a paternal reproof. One of his airheaded sidekicks might yet allocate me some arbitrary rank in a ridiculous listing that reminds one of those mechanical 1970s sci-fi movies with the glossy hair piled up in towers and overmade up eyes featuring 'futuristic' machinery and talking computers.

  • 156. 0 0
    Sarah
    • Margie in Tel Aviv
    • 17.10.07
    • 22:32

    Take no notice of Tosefta. If he has nothing else to say he weighs in with insults. He apparently thinks it adds to his charm or to the impression of intellectual gravitas or wards off further challenges to his 'authority'. This message would ordinarily have earned a comment on my shallowness (if he'd remembered that this was his diagnosis of my state for this week) but now it will be ignored or earn a paternal reproof. One of his airheaded sidekicks might yet allocate me some arbitrary rank in a ridiculous listing that reminds one of those mechanical 1970s sci-fi movies with the glossy hair piled up in towers and overmade up eyes featuring 'futuristic' machinery and talking computers.

  • 155. 0 0
    Whatever `botheres` Israel, better if & when gone
    • TonyL
    • 17.10.07
    • 22:26

    The story is beaten to death already, so I am going to look at it as the following. Whatever was there, rockets on the way to Hezbollah, unfinished nuclear reactor, chemical stockpiles-whatever was there was `bothering `Israelis & would have been a detriment to Israel if not now than in the future. So to hell with whatever was there, in the military intelligence department I completely trust Israeli brain trust & if they chose such operation, especially under tense conditions with Syria, am glad they did whatever needed to be done. I am sure we all will get the chance to judge the results someday in the future. On the side effect note though, it is interesting to notice a resounding respond to `victorious Hezbollah` pushers such operation creates. Not that I cared what the malicious pushers had to say before, nor now, just the overall deterrent observation. I take it destroying whatever facilities deep into Syria territory is not the same as looking for terrorists `under women skirts`

  • 154. 0 0
    KATH' #136 - Tough is good
    • WWACD
    • 17.10.07
    • 22:15

    I used to take a softer line on this site (under a different nick) too but I realized that most of our detractors, as in real life, are Arabs and Arabs see compromise as weakness. My writing was misquoted and taken out of context and I caught wise that you cannot be soft on the issues. If you give an inch they want the whole measuring tape. I saw that by negotiating my right wing, hard-line position I had allowed the center to drift further left. All of a sudden "Palestine" was a given, a mere starting point to negotiations. The question was no longer: Do we give them a country? It had become: Which borders are we going to return to 67' or 47'? This was a ridiculous situation for two reasons: a) The Arabs have nothing to offer in the negotiations other than need b) I am a poster on an internet talkback, not a statesmen in the UN I feel that aggressiveness is necessary but it is insane to take this place (or oneself) too seriously That said, I agree with your posts and enjoy their style

  • 153. 0 0
    # 92 Tosefta and all your posts
    • KATH'
    • 17.10.07
    • 22:08

    Tosefta Are you still quibbling on what happened,even when this Bashar-al-Jaafari said it,and you assume it was probably praraphrased. Isn?t this just the case where Syria is too embarrassed form the attack perpetrated by the IDF and the ground forces the IDF. The fact that our side is keeping quiet, doesn?t it suggest to you it is a delicate matter and it has to be hidden in the realms of Israeli Security until such a time whereby it can be announced for your acceptance,or any other hungry people to acquire what the result was/is. Face it Tossi, it happened but you will not/do not want to accept it.Why is a mystery. Are you so besotted with the Syria that anything our side accomplishes does not look feasible, or reasonable? I sent you a response on this matter, but it has not surfaced yet. Still this one hopefully does. Have a good day

  • 152. 0 0
    Hannah
    • Mark
    • 17.10.07
    • 21:59

    Hannah, you took umbrage at my including you as one of those who use "anti-zionist" to hide your anti-semtism. You also asked me how I dared to call you a self-hating jew. I did not; I've no reason to think that you are either self-hating or jewish. But your homophobic pronouncements or phrases like "Khazar Mongrels" vitiates against your claims of non-bigotry. BTW your latest slur de jour "fake ashkenazi" is seriously misguided. The destruction of the 2nd temple had jews scattered all over the ME & Europe. The persecution of ashkenazic jews in Germany & northern France caused jews to leave ashkenaz a few hundred years before the Spanish (Sephardic) inquisition. While many ashkenazi jews moved east to Poland many returned to Palestine; note the great ashkenazi scholars of Jerusalem & Sefad in the middle ages. That anti-ashkenazi rightist in Israel is probably right, most pro-palestininan jews are ashkenazi, myself included. The Khazars is just a red herring.

  • 151. 0 0
    #138, WWACD
    • Cipora Julianna Kohn
    • 17.10.07
    • 21:58

    It is nice to know that you missed me. I am gone for a day or two, and my friends complain. Truth be told, I have other duties(like paying bills, eating, etc...) not to mention, being here makes me sicker by the day. I read in one of your posts that you will be absent starting Monday. That is unfortunate, but have a nice trip.

  • 150. 0 0
    Tosefta the coward #132
    • FOX
    • 17.10.07
    • 21:55

    Thank you for your post Tossi, but it is getting a touch old. I am sure a coward and a fraud like you can come up with another form letter response that is just as anal is childish. I understand that you fear me. I also promise you that i will continue to stalk you, like a rabid dog chasing a bolemic young starlet. But the coward that you are, will not debate lil ole me, while you chastise the Israeli gov't for not meeting with Nasrallah. I am off to watch the news and then turn in for the night, in my warm Fox hole, leaving you with a full day ahead to pass on your nonsense and Syrian sponsored apologies. Tossi how much do they pay you to sell your soul.

  • 149. 0 0
    C.J. Kohn! Where the hell have you been you old so-and-so?
    • WWACD
    • 17.10.07
    • 21:43

    I had been gone a few months and didn't see you here during my first day back. Nice to read a coherent polite post again Take care now

  • 148. 0 0
    #132 Fox's News
    • WWACD
    • 17.10.07
    • 21:40

    That was great I felt like I was watching a 'Family Guy' What's your story, chief? There is no way you picked up all those cultural references and vocabulary in Karkur. "Wallflower" You slay me God Bless Peace Through Victory

  • 147. 0 0
    # 113 WWACD
    • KATH'
    • 17.10.07
    • 21:32

    WWACD I will then say fare-thee-well to you for now.May I add that the toughness you see in me has been activated since my introduction to Haaretz.We have to fight the fight against our detractors no doubt you agree.Do you want me to revert to a ?pussy cat?and purrr? Well I will not accept the insults showered upon us from the ones who constantly attack our country and people? I fear not! Will I have to watch my behaviour after your assumption of my being tough? No I shall continue as best as possibly can and do my outmost to redress the ballance here and will not be derailed in my endeavour. I shall miss you as I have that dear fellow Yonatan Netser who was an inspiration to most of us during the 2nd Lebanon war last year.Gosh,is it a year? And most probably(though I hope not)we?ll have yet to feel secure from another difficult war to come. With fond best wishes And yes peace through victory with great strength !

  • 146. 0 0
    Sarah Hamoudi #127
    • FOX
    • 17.10.07
    • 21:24

    Sarah I do wish that you would read some of my posts, you would have understood that Tosefta is not living in Israel. He claims that he is Tiveria, but other than where the Rambam is buried (googled of course) he knows little of the jewel by the lake. Take note that he only writes during the working hours in the US, he will post all night while working Israelis sleep. He posts up to forty of his apologist mumblings a day. Quite the effort for a guy who claims to be an academic. He used to post as Ben Gurion from Tsde Boker, just another lie. This guy is a paid dupe. For him this is a full time job. he is quite good at it. As of late his posts have been rather weak, this is due to the frustration of having to cover Syria's tracks as they attempt to cover that huge hole in the middle of their country. Take pity on this fraud, he has sold his soul for gold.

  • 145. 0 0
    Labrat #117, what are you going on about?
    • FOX
    • 17.10.07
    • 21:18

    hey Lab Rat what are you going on about. My reply was to Victor Hardman, commenting on Clickfool. Your name did not come up, so what is your problem. Let me dwell on that one. Are you feeling somehow left out, sitting on the bench, a wallflower at the debutant ball, what is it mate. A dominatrix may do the trick.

  • 144. 0 0
    Jay---responsibility
    • Mark T
    • 17.10.07
    • 20:57

    Jay, you hit the nail on the head, so to speak. It's all about actions, consequences and responsibility. Look at many youths today. They don't want to take responsibility for their actions and when they reach adulthood will have serious reality check.Likewise, it seems the Palestinians and many of the Arab govts and militants seem to think that their actions have no consequences, and they certainly are refusing to take responsibility for their bad behavior. The Palestinians started their foolish Intefadehs, for instance, but refuse to take responsibility for the consequences. Instead, they get human rights organzations which are nothing of the sort, to declare Israel's responses to be actions of Apartheid, and placing no responsibility on the heads of the Palestinians who started the violence. Childish and a shanghaiing of UN organizations....what an apostasy.

  • 143. 0 0
    Hannah #2
    • Jay
    • 17.10.07
    • 20:34

    How about an arugment based upon war, which has been a key force driving civilizations and geography since the birth of mankind. The boundaries of China, Russia, America, the UK, etc all determined, like Israel, in large part determined by war, for better or worse. In the case of Israel, such wars were not brought by it, but rather, in May 14, 1948, again in 67, and especially again in 73 by Palestinians and Arabs alike. The result of such wars, each of these groups brought to Israel's doorstep, according to nearly all viable historical references (unless out of denial you would challenge that massive body of evidence), was the acquiring of additional lands. One does not get to make war, lose that war and dictate terms. The Arabs and Pals lost. The Israelis won and with that victory come additional lands not in the original partition plan the Arabs and Pals refused. And neither the Arabs nor the Pals want to accept responsibility for their actions.

  • 142. 0 0
    Johnny boy and chasing the wild geese
    • Margie in Tel Aviv
    • 17.10.07
    • 20:25

    Nothing new in those websites Johnny boy. One was clearly about phosphates and though you said of the other that it mentioned Syria several times one mention was about Rinderpest (vet. disease) one about low thyroid in babies and the third sounds very like the single miniature facility I mentioned. Giving URLs in the hope that I won't search them is dishonest. In future please quote any relevant text or I will discount your evidence as irrelevant.

  • 141. 0 0
    #112 Rabid Fox on the loose
    • Tosefta
    • 17.10.07
    • 20:22

    Listen Fox, As I told you in the past, I see no point in dealing with nonthinkers, people who don`t know about causes, effects, what comes first, or people who believe that Rabin was killed because of suicide bombers. Don`t you get it? We operate on entirely different levels. Better go hunting for some chicken, and be happy. "It is an ill thing to knock against a deaf, an imbecile, or a minor. He that harms them is culpable, but if they harm him they are not culpable." - Talmud

  • 140. 0 0
    Frankly, my dear Sarah #127
    • Tosefta
    • 17.10.07
    • 20:20

    Your powers of reasoning are extremely poor. Better read my posts #92,108 and try to understand them. In the future, you can ask me about factual matters but, as far as conclusions based on reasoning, I suggest we save our time.

  • 139. 0 0
    #112 Hana' - On spelling, diatribes and maybe even knitting.
    • WWACD
    • 17.10.07
    • 20:13

    How ya doin' Hana'? See, doesn't that feel better? More Natural? "Ranting and raving does not an argument make." Well you would know, sweetheart. What ever else you do when you sit your fat a$$ down to defecate your desperate, frustrated bile on the web, you have yet to make a single argument. You kvetch about people not sticking to the issues but other than smug and misinformed schadenfreude you generate little more than a perpetually repeating wish-list needed to ameliorate Islamic fears and insecurities involving Israel (i.e. "so-called-Israel (It's so gay that you do that every time. You remind me of my kid sister that doesn't like the fact that Americans call themselves "Americans": She insists on the term "United Statens" if you'll believe that) will be destroyed", "You are *Yawn* squatters", "Blah, Blah, Blah"). "...seem to be in the ignominous position..." -Hana' That's a funny way to spell ignominious. You're silly. :) Sorry, nothing on knitting God Bless Peace Through Victory

  • 138. 0 0
    #127, Sarah
    • Cipora Julianna Kohn
    • 17.10.07
    • 20:09

    Do you really expect an honest answer?

  • 137. 0 0
    Johnny boy and chasing the wild geese
    • Margie in Tel Aviv
    • 17.10.07
    • 20:00

    You gave me two URLs, hoping that I wouldn't check them out. The first of them at Global Security, yields no values for Nuclear or facility when searched. It discusses uranium recovery from phosphates, which is the closest it gets to the subject. The Second of them certainly mentions Syria several times, in connection with the Veterinary disease, Rinderpest, Low Thyroid in infants and it mentions the The Miniature Neutron Source Reactor in Syria that I had already cited. You can't kid a kidder, Johnny and now I know you as dishonest.

  • 136. 0 0
    #113 Hannah
    • Sol
    • 17.10.07
    • 19:42

    Really, when did Palestine exist as a political entity? When was there ever a people called Palestinians? Provide backup for your fatuous argument. From all the posts I have read the only ranter and raver is you. Do you have the courage to prove your statements?

  • 135. 0 0
    Hey Jewboy #112
    • FOX
    • 17.10.07
    • 19:40

    Hey Jewboy, it is not that Tosefta admires the Syrians, it is more a case of he works for them. Writing from the US he has been known to pump out up to forty posts a day, always in support of good king Assad, and the Syrian dream of hegemony over all of what once was Greater Syria, this includes the Kurdish north east, all of Lebanon, Jerusalem as well as Jaffo, stretching down into the northern Sinai desert. Take pity on him though. The last two months since the hole was left in the middle of Syria, he has had to do alot of back-peddling and Houdiniesque contortions to plead the Syrian case. It is not his fault, obviously his handlers have not let him in on what happened either. That would mean that someone would have to take the blame, and everybody is too busy out of the office, getting a street urchin to polish their mercedez for a dinar. Tossi has been getting tired of all this nonsense , and may be wondering if being a professional Israel basher is worth the coin.

  • 134. 0 0
    What might have happened with the raid in Syria
    • Tosefta
    • 17.10.07
    • 19:39

    Based on the fact that North Korea condemned the raid, an unusual development, and other leaked info from the US, I take it that the target was a Korean built facility. Korea has nuclear weapons as well as chemical weapons, and is also selling missiles to Syria. It is not clear how certain Israel and the US were about the nature of the facility. According to some leaks, there was a dispute in the US about it. The possibility then are: 1. Israel and the US were sure the facility was nuclear, and it was destroyed. 2. There was suspicion that the facility was nuclear, and to be on the safe side it was destroyed. In both situations, the bombing was ill conceived, I regret to say. The right thing to have done was to inform the IAEA and give them the location of the facility. This would have put an end to a nuclear project, if that is what it was, and would have put Syria under some special watch by the Security Council, as Iran is now. Destroying the facility allows Syria to deny that it was nuclear and to attempt building another one at some point. Israel has then acted not only foolishly, but also unilaterally like a bully in the Bush style. Eventually, bullies pay for their bullying.

  • 133. 0 0
    Admiring Syria? (Jewboy #109)
    • Tosefta
    • 17.10.07
    • 19:35

    Jewboy, you have a reasonable memory but poor understanding. Why should I admire Syria for what they did in Lebanon? Whatever they did was in their own interests. I also do not admire Israel for what it does in the West Bank. Syria stopped the Civil war in Lebanon, which made the place more reasonable as a neighbor for Israel. And it provided an address for blame when things went wrong, such as Hizballah attacks. In the last war Israel tried blaming the Lebanese government. Blame them, but they can't control anything. You better try to understand how things work in the world. Perhaps you think the recent Lebanon war was a good thing.. As far as kicking Syria out, there was a reason for my regret, and it is still valid. If you remember it, try to rethink (or think, for the first time).

  • 132. 0 0
    American #78, poorly disguised
    • FOX
    • 17.10.07
    • 19:32

    Thank you American, oh let me cough a few times after writing that. You are as American as coffee with hell. (hell is a spice that the Arabs mix into their black coffee), as American as beheadings on the internet, or maybe as American as Paradisa Hilton, covered from head to toe, not fat enough to pull off the seven veils routine. It is a joy to have you here sir/miss, we do not often have the pleasure of listening to a historically humiliated Shiite ranting against the fat and soft Sunnis. Please continue to write, and share with us your angst, and your unbridled hatred to your fellow Moslems, all because some uncle of the Prophet did not get to sit at the head of the caliphate. Your mind, I suspect is an anthropologists gold mine, a Pandora's box of neuroses and suicidal delusions. Do not be shy, share with us all the wonders of your mind, thanks. Salem alei'kum, na'am.

  • 131. 0 0
    #92 Tosefta
    • Sarah
    • 17.10.07
    • 19:24

    Are you also a Syrian apologist? I can understand Clickfool, Hannah, Labhras and all the other weirdos here who twist the facts. I have a guess that at least some of them are getting petrodollars for sowing demoralisation among us. But what about you? How can you twist such an obvious sentence? You don't do the same when it comes to Israel, there you found always its fault. Are you Israeli or what?

  • 130. 0 0
    #84, Hannah
    • Cipora Julianna Kohn
    • 17.10.07
    • 19:16

    Hannah: "It helped me put my own Zionist thoughts and feelings in order...," about reading the Qur'an, way back sometime. If it did help put your "Zionist thoughts and feelings in order," I wonder what it is you are doing on a Zionist site, among us vile and contemptible Zionists.

  • 129. 0 0
    #104, alan
    • Hannah
    • 17.10.07
    • 18:57

    "Defet (sic) is bitter". What are you talking about? Palestine has and does exist. What are you talking about, I must ask again? Ranting and raving does not an argument make. If you are incapable of making any rational points, perhaps it would be better for you to take up knitting or, perhaps, spelling.

  • 128. 0 0
    Tosefta - do you still admire Syria?
    • Jewboy
    • 17.10.07
    • 18:53

    I recall you once wrote with nostalgia on the benefits of Syrian military occupation and political control over Lebanon. Do you still consider it a mistake for the West + Lebanese to "kick" syria our of Lebanon?

  • 127. 0 0
  • 126. 0 0
    Hannah Balfour
    • Mark T
    • 17.10.07
    • 18:39

    Here, for your edification, Hannah, is the entire body of the Balfour Declaration "I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty's Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet: "His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country". I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation." The document does not stipulate what part of Palestine, just in Palestine. The UN and, later, bad decisions on the parts of invading Arab armies, set the initial border.

  • 125. 0 0
    Hannah--Palestine
    • Mark T
    • 17.10.07
    • 18:33

    By what FACTS and PROOF do you claim that Palestine is ONLY land that Israel controls? In point of FACT, HISTORICAL Palestine includes MOST of hat is now referred to Jordan. You cannot have it both ways. If you consider Israel to be *squatting* on Palestinian land, then you must ALSO include Jordan in this claim. So, if you are espousing violence against Israel and Israelis, to be fair, you must ALSO promote violence against Jordan.

  • 124. 0 0
    getting personal??
    • Mark T
    • 17.10.07
    • 18:30

    It seems like many of us have been getting a little personal. Indeed, even I have made a few remarks that can be considered disparaging of several people. However, it seems like things are getting waay too personal....on both sides of the argument. I understand that people posting here are very passionate in their beliefs, but let's ALL try to remain factual...ie...give the FACTS as we each see them, and, to be fair to all, please, let's try to provide FACTS to back up our statements. Thanks all.

  • 123. 0 0
    We can mutilate the genitals ugh
    • barbarian
    • 17.10.07
    • 18:23

    we can mutilate the genitals!! Ugh ugh

  • 122. 0 0
    WWACD #70
    • FOX
    • 17.10.07
    • 18:21

    Hey W. I am awaiting Ann Coulter's expected appearance as a presenter on the Naked News. As for Hannah, could she be a whispy angelic figure of a woman, brown breasted heart beating joy, her fingers gently stroking the head feathers of her man's hunting hawk. Could she. It would fit in well with Sol's James Bond bad-girl concept. Naaaah, forget it. I'll go with the babe from Baltimore thing. Who happens to work as a heavy smoking Bingo caller at her local bowling alley.

  • 121. 0 0
    #103 Rabid Fox on the loose.
    • Labhras
    • 17.10.07
    • 18:15

    Are you so dumb you cannot tell the difference between his posts(clickfool) and mine. Harris or you may not be smart enough to pull it off.Either Clickfool or I could but dont see the point.It,s very childish.

  • 120. 0 0
    SHHHHH, Turkey is about to attack the Kurds
    • FOX
    • 17.10.07
    • 18:13

    Now the PKK are not a bunch of angels. They are rough and tumble Kurds who want a state of their own. The only difference between them and the Pals is they never took their war with the Turks to the streets or the "friendly skies" of Europe. Yup, they never went for the big headlines, unlike Hamas, which is all about Sharia and The Guardian front page. Where is all the outrage regarding Turkey's planned incursion into northern Iraq? Is this not a "war crime", or how about the potential for geonocide. I may be over-reacting, and unlike the haters on this forum, I at least realize it. But it is precious how Hannah doesn't give a damn about the Kurds who happen to be Moslem as well. Why the selective disgust, anger, and black velvet painted tears.

  • 119. 0 0
    Noura, If you could you would #86
    • FOX
    • 17.10.07
    • 18:05

    Noura, before the 67 war it is said that an Egyptian aircraft penetrated Israel airspace and buzzed the Dimona plant. He was probably surprised as shit, and froze rather than kamakazi his plane into the building. Israel attacked Syria's nuclear visions because it can. Dear Noura if your bloodthirsty infantacidal mutant comrades could destroy Dimona then they would. But at this time they seem to be incapable. I would suspect that rather than relying on your friends suspect airforces, your mutant warrior friends will probably hijack a plane filled with your brothers on their way to Mecca and direct it at Dimona. Such wonderful delicate dreams you dream. Tell me how many legs does a black widow spider have, count em.

  • 118. 0 0
    #9 Clickfool on Victor Hardman
    • Yonatan
    • 17.10.07
    • 18:04

    The fact that Clickfool has resorted to a personal attack against Victor Hardman instead of refuting what Hardman wrote demonstrates that Clickfool really has nothing to say, and he denies the facts because he finds them unbearable.

  • 117. 0 0
    KATH'
    • WWACD
    • 17.10.07
    • 18:04

    Always nice to see you online KATH' I read your stuff when I see it. You're a tough lady. I'm going to be traveling as of Monday so I won't be here for a while but I always come back to let the left wing, bleeding heart, nut jobs (and Islam)know what normal people think of them. Take care now Peace Through Victory

  • 116. 0 0
    Sad, Sad Tosefta
    • FOX
    • 17.10.07
    • 17:59

    Tosefta, my dear ole sod, what? I have grown used to your fine writing skills, much like an anal university essay or a lawyers letter claiming spousal payments. Dry but well put together, your post #92 is scattered, poorly devised, as if you were fleeing shooting wildly in all directions. Yha, like the time you claimed to be a yeshiva student later serving in the Israeli airforce. Tossi, there is a big hole in syria. For over a month you have been trying to convince us that it does not exist. Come clean buddy, what are your Syrian handlers telling you? Why don't they invite the world press in to show off the "israeli aggression"? Israel stayed quiet to shelter Assad from public humiliation. So let it be, buddy, we have staved off what would have been an October War. Since you claim to be a Zionist, then you should be happy that Jews and Arabs were not killed, for some ego thing. Since you work for the Syrians, commenting on their humiliation must be tough.

  • 115. 0 0
    Guido, Israel did not intruduce nukes to the Middle East
    • Jake
    • 17.10.07
    • 17:59

    That is the one thing that Peres keeps repeating over and over again. And with good reason. Simple fact is, the Soviet Union decades ago had nuclear-armed submarines basking just off the Egyptian coast with its devices trained at Israel "just in case". But don't let the facts confuse you.

  • 114. 0 0
    #14
    • Paul
    • 17.10.07
    • 17:58

    There is truth in that you know!

  • 113. 0 0
    Excellent!
    • Paul
    • 17.10.07
    • 17:56

    Israel attacked Stria on my birthday!Go shem shalom!

  • 112. 0 0
    No reason to admit (Guido #101)
    • Tosefta
    • 17.10.07
    • 17:54

    Hello Guido, At this stage it may not have been illegal (although I am not sure; I think they have 6 months to report), but the intent was clearly illegal. The builders were North Korean, and their design uses non-enriched Uranium. This is a big no-no for proliferation, so once the Syrians admit, it will be recorded forever as an attempt at cheating the IAEA. The result would be that the Security Council may cause them trouble in the future. Example: Iran has a legal right to do all the work they are now doing, including enrichment (at a low level). They are subject to sanctions because they cheated in the past and are suspect of trying to ultimately build a capacity to produce weapons.

  • 111. 0 0
    How funny!
    • Yonatan
    • 17.10.07
    • 17:53

    Sria and all the other anti-Zionists (including those on this list) are trying with all their might and main to deny or explain away the plain truth admitted by one of the Syrian representatives in the UN (poor guy, wonder what his fate will be). Hannah unleashes her usual stream of vitriol, made even more acidic by this uncomfortable (for her) revelation. Squirm, enemies of Israel, squirm!

  • 110. 0 0
    Matt #22 Bashar Lied? Oh my!
    • FOX
    • 17.10.07
    • 17:49

    "Say it isn't so!" Bashar Lied, and here I was thinking along with Hannah that he had not chopped down the cherry tree, I fear that if I keep on reading this forum many other of my accepted notions will become conflicted. Matt did you notice that two days ago a Balad party bloke, was blown away at the back of his kiosk. Who knows it may be connected to Bashar's socking away of over four million dollars, donated by wealthy Arab Americans to be used by his party in the last election. Instead it made it's way along the family (Clan) channel, making it possible for some of his starving brothers to buy another Mercedez. To use the Arab venacular, "Bashar is a doggie". A fat, moustachioed, middle class cowboy, who would rather leave his wife and join the steam bath boys in Beirut. I am still awaiting details on his alledged triste with the Israeli-German guy in search of love, who was mysteriously let go after servicing the general staff of the Beirut Police.

  • 109. 0 0
    clickfool # 7
    • kameel
    • 17.10.07
    • 17:45

    Bright answer to everwhinning, all too complaining Shlomo about hatred. Just enough to make him burst with anger.

  • 108. 0 0
    to KATH
    • dovale
    • 17.10.07
    • 17:38

    No friends, there is no error in my writing, only me trying to say that if any one would try to reach Demona, it can only be the IDF. The Syrians wouldn't reach the Kinereth. So if you do not like my humor, thats ok. But facts are facts

  • 107. 0 0
    Johnny boy and the wild geese
    • Margie in Tel Aviv
    • 17.10.07
    • 17:37

    the globalsecurity site has no mention of nuclear facilities but mentions the production of Scud missiles http://www.iaea.org/About/Policy/GC/GC41/Documents/rhigh.html mentions Syria once in connection with the vet disease, Rinderpest and once in connecton with Radioisotopes and once in connection with screening newborns for thyroid deficiency. There are no mentions of further nuclear facilities in the two sites you mentioned Johnny Boy. You're trying to kid a kidder. Next time check your own sources more carefully. So, says me, Johnny Baby.

  • 106. 0 0
    #10 Hannah projecting once again
    • FOX
    • 17.10.07
    • 17:36

    Hannah thank you once again for showing us that anti-zionism does not always disguise the anti-semite that you are. "Rothschildean company store". I see that you have co-opted the Rothchilds (Jews) own the world theory. How Third Reich of you dear. As a matter of fact Karkur stands on land purchased from an Arab landlord in Beirut over a hundred and ten years ago. Sorry but they do not have a company store here, I will be sure to look out for one when and if it opens. Hopefully they will supply us with fine cheese, wine and coissants. As for "Priests in the Temple'? I sense that you are alluding to the ancient Jewish temple? no bells dear, just the horns of a big goat. As for "thinking", your support of Clickfool deams you negative, and sorry your Palestinian jingoist nationalism is a poor desguise for your hate and Far Right leanings. It would be nice just once for you to actually show some real affection and sympathy for Moslem women caught kept down by men.

  • 105. 0 0
    # 92 Tosefta re:Confirmation...Syria Etc.
    • KATH'
    • 17.10.07
    • 17:36

    Tosefta They are doing it in stages.By admitting thus. First it was an empty space,then it turned out to be a military barrack(?),and now comes from the Syrian B-al Jafary admitting it.Praphrased or not he said it.What will convince you otherwise. At the end of the day,all we can assert is that the IAF plus ground IDF forces did carry the superb job whether you like it or OR NOT

  • 104. 0 0
    99 hannah
    • alan
    • 17.10.07
    • 17:30

    "I do my homework on factual history; please do yours!' then you would know there never was such a nation as palestine. Merely an area, like Siberia in Russia. You would also know that the arab armies tried to crush Israel on many occasions and lost big time. Defet is bitter !

  • 103. 0 0
    Hardman #9 Clickfool running scared
    • FOX
    • 17.10.07
    • 17:29

    victor whether you be Paul Harris or not means nothing to me. It is fun to see Clickfool continually running scared. he is scared of the Mossad, thus his fixation. Sadly he is no reply to your post other than his usual nonsense. He seems to think that by pointing out that you may be Paul Harris makes your posts less potent. Clicky is a sad fool. Ever since a huge crater has been left in syria, he has been scratching his head trying to come up with a twist that does not leave Syria twisting in the wind. Good luck Click, it seems that the side you have chosen are still perenial leaders, even the Yanks are kicking your comrades asses in Iraq now. The Pal intifada has been defeated, and the Iranians are continuing to muzzzle their women and imprison any sign of discontent. Take a break from looking for Mossadniks under your bed, and take a good look at those you have come to support. Hey Click, a fan of Islamo-facism, have you covered your wall with zakari posters.

  • 102. 0 0
    Peter SM - on wife beating
    • Hannah
    • 17.10.07
    • 17:28

    We are not barbarians! Wife beating is not permitted. But you can mutilate the genitals to prevent woman from enjoying sex, and if she continues with attitude, we can do the "honor" killing. But not stoning in the street, the killing must be honorable, such as by stabing or AK47.

  • 101. 0 0
    Tosefta # 92
    • Guido
    • 17.10.07
    • 17:21

    "Of course Syria did not confirm" I am not so sure. There seems to be a complete breakdown in Syrian PR. Haaretz reported a few days ago that if the reactor was in its initial stage then it would not be illegal. In that case it would be good for them to admit it.

  • 100. 0 0
    # 87 dovale.Was it a Typo Error??dovale read it again please..
    • KATH'
    • 17.10.07
    • 17:20

    dovale That Noura was trying to ask why doesn't Syria or whoever attack Dimona.Nevermind you can re- write it and put the recird straight. No chance sweet Noura,nobody would dare take on our Dimona facility for it will backfire by its great conequences... Sorry dovale,for barging in to your response. Now,that Noura will have to think again. All the best dovale

  • 99. 0 0
    #90, Mark T.
    • Hannah
    • 17.10.07
    • 17:19

    Get a grip on your greed and fantasies! Palestine is the land upon which you zionists squat. Palestine is not Jordan. Palestine is under your feet. Why not try research and a smidgeon of thought? I'm sure that it isn't necessary to remain a brain-washed cypher for all your days. For a start, read the 3-paragraph Balfour Declaration which stated what and what not you zionist types were allowed in the Middle East. I do my homework on factual history; please do yours!

  • 98. 0 0
    #79 -Esther
    • Shlomo
    • 17.10.07
    • 17:16

    I was quoting the updated Press Release info which was issued by the wire services and is now part of this article. maybe you should reread it and then we can discuss who looks foolish?

  • 97. 0 0
    attack on Syria nuclear plant
    • Jean
    • 17.10.07
    • 17:13

    Hey, Roger B. What about all the children that the Palestinians and Hamas have killed in Israel? These kids were on their way to school, and some were hanging out in teenage places with friends!

  • 96. 0 0
    HANNAH whats wrong with answering rather than ducking questions
    • PETER SM
    • 17.10.07
    • 17:13

    While you are at it what does the holy Qur'an say about wife beating?

  • 95. 0 0
    # 70 WWACD.re:Hannah and Your Apt Interpretation..
    • KATH'
    • 17.10.07
    • 17:13

    WWACD hiya Wow! your last paragraph says it all. Viewed by anyone is a great pleasure beyond compare.An absolute fact to consider by all of us which we have had the pleasure/mispleasure when countering the said fat,pimply etc,woman called Hannah.And your description of her applies to a tee. Thanks a million,you are a dream come true to all here WWACD keep posting and let us blow the wind easterly for good measure for some who should try and discover some cogent aspects they may enjoy over yonder. Peace Through Victory!!

  • 94. 0 0
    Dovale, LOL!!!!
    • Mark T
    • 17.10.07
    • 17:13

    I tell ya...!! Funny response!! Of course, noting is out of the realm of possibility.

  • 93. 0 0
    Noura-Dimona
    • Mark T
    • 17.10.07
    • 17:11

    Noura, are you suggesting that the equivalency of an Israeli attack on a not yet fueled nuclear reactor is to attack a fully fueled and operating Israeli nuclear reactor? If so I have a likely scenario for you. The attack will work, causing radiation to spill out and flow over Jordan and Saudi Arabia, and the Persian Gulf, polluting vast tracts ofARAB lad, and a small amount of Israeli land. Israel would then feel NO compunction at destroying any and ALL Arab reactors, active or not; legal or not. After all, Israel said it would not introduce nukes into the ME (ie be the first to use them) Of course, a terrorist or military would have to REACH it to attack it, and that, thank goodness, is highly unlikely.

  • 92. 0 0
    Of course Syria did not confirm
    • Tosefta
    • 17.10.07
    • 17:10

    "a UN press release sent after a meeting of the First Committee, Disarmament and International Security, in New York PARAPHRASED Syria's UN ambassador, Bashar al-Jaafari, as saying that a nuclear facility was hit. "Israel was the fourth largest exporter of weapons of mass destruction and a violator of other nations' airspace, and it had taken action against nuclear facilities, including the 6 July attack in Syria"," - Haaretz Of course Syria did not confirm it was building a nuclear facility in contradiction to its obligation under the NPT treaty. And now that the facility is gone, there is no need to confirm, even if the facility was nuclear. The problem is with the paraphraser, probably. The last clause "including the 6 July attack in Syria", may have been meant to refer to Israel being "violator of other nations' airspace" and not to the nuclear issue.

  • 91. 0 0
    Labhras...Nuke info
    • Mark T
    • 17.10.07
    • 16:59

    Labhras...as has been stated numerous times on these talkbacks, Syria is a signator of the NPT and is a member of IAEA. Israel is not. Syria, by signong onboard these treaties/organizations, is OBLIGATED to divulgeALL nuclear programs AND is required to place ALL of them under IAEA supervision, open to inspections. Israel is not a signator of either organization/treaty. Why? The answer is obvious. Israel doesn't NEED either technical assistance with it's peaceful nuclear program, or guidance, since it was what.. the 4th or 5th country to be a nuclear power and neither needs technical assistance, training or technology to maintain or improve it's tech. Mark-

  • 90. 0 0
    Hannah #21
    • Mark T
    • 17.10.07
    • 16:54

    So Hannah..in response to JUST the title f your post....What are the Palestinians going to do about Jordan squatting on 70+% of "Palestine"? Hmmm? Gotta wonder what the Palestinians are doing about Jordan....

  • 89. 0 0
    Margie # 77
    • Guido
    • 17.10.07
    • 16:51

    I see you know how to Google! Nobody is disputing your information which is widely available. The real question is if Syria acted illegally if (yes: if) it did start building a new reactor without informing the IAEA first. Haaretz reported a few days ago that this was not the case. Of course nobody knows the precise situation at this point. If it was a reactor in its initial stage of construction then one may wonder why the heavy handed Israeli approach was necessary. They could have simply informed the IAEA.

  • 88. 0 0
    Syria do admit
    • dovale
    • 17.10.07
    • 16:33

    Syria today (Wednesday) admits by Bashar al Ja'afari, the Syrian UN-ambassador that the strike took place. You will read about it soon...

  • 87. 0 0
    To the sweet Noura
    • dovale
    • 17.10.07
    • 16:29

    Noura, I hardly think Israel dares to attack Demona, especially as I live close to it...

  • 86. 0 0
    Dimona
    • Noura
    • 17.10.07
    • 16:14

    What about a preemptive strike on Dimona?

  • 85. 0 0
    hannah you legend
    • lawrence
    • 17.10.07
    • 16:14

    Hannah couldnt of said it better myself you legend.

  • 84. 0 0
    #80, Dick Hertz
    • Hannah
    • 17.10.07
    • 16:14

    Do you read Arabic? Are you interested in the real stuff, as Entertainment Daily would put it? Then learn to read Arabic! The standard and accepted English version of the Koran is that of Marmaduke Pickthall, written long before the era of zionist occupation and political correctness. If there is any part of your mocking heart which is serious, then I recommend it. It helped me put my own zionist thoughts and feelings in order, way back in time when I first read it.

  • 83. 0 0
    #10 Shlomo regarding Clickfool
    • Maurice
    • 17.10.07
    • 16:04

    You are absolutely right Shlomo, you have clearly proved that Clickfool can not be trusted for his opinions as he has himself admitted that he's blinded by his hatred! Haaretz should take into consideration this fact and not publish anymore his rubbish. If Haaretz is a paper for which the truth counts as they claim then they should definitely ban Clickfool from its talkbacks.

  • 82. 0 0
    This is the quote
    • sh
    • 17.10.07
    • 15:57

    "Israel was the fourth largest exporter of weapons of mass destruction and a violator of other nations' airspace, and it had taken action against nuclear facilities, including the 6 July attack in Syria," It sounds like the statement was formulated as part of a longer one designed to show Israel as a bully and an infringer of international law. It sounds like it was made in, or translated into, less than perfect English. In view of the fact that the date, too, is incorrect, might he not have been saying that in the framework of its violations of other nations' airspace on the pretext of destroying nuclear facilities it had also attacked Syria? Press releases are usually rush jobs by overworked translation departments. Why are we grasping at straws?

  • 81. 0 0
    BANNISTER upset that Israelis did not drop their guns &surrender
    • PETER SM
    • 17.10.07
    • 15:49

    Like some splendid tough marines. Whats the matter no longer ruling the waves but being run off by a few bearded revolutionaries in a dinghy turned you into a sourpuss.?

  • 80. 0 0
    Incidentally Hannah - Which Version Of The Quran
    • Dick Hertz
    • 17.10.07
    • 15:49

    are you referring to? The sanitized version available in the West or the real version in Arabic which calls the Jews dogs and the Christians pigs who should be eliminated. Your dream of a caliphate must end! You are destroying the world with your insanity.

  • 79. 0 0
    Shlomo
    • Esther
    • 17.10.07
    • 15:47

    No transcript of the meeting in New York is currently available and the Syrians claims that they haven't said it, so what are you on about. You look rather foolish.

  • 78. 0 0
    The Middle East NEEDS nuclear proliferation
    • American
    • 17.10.07
    • 15:47

    This will equalize the field, no amount of military expenditures can trump the nuclear card. This will happen soon, once Iran gets it, the arabs, ignorant as they are, are going to have to climb out of their caves and figure out that throwing rocks at tanks is not going to work, and that BRAINS is mightier than brute force...the Iranians have figured this out, but then again, they are not Arab or Sunni, in fact, the only war that the Arabs have partially won was the one in Lebanon and that was Shiite territory, Sunnis want to go to the past so much that they haven't figured out the hand guns are useless, you need a nuke. The ultimate Jihad! Have at it boys..just don't hit Europe.

  • 77. 0 0
    For those who don't know how to ask
    • Margie in Tel Aviv
    • 17.10.07
    • 15:44

    Syria maintains a single, miniature, 30-kilowatt research reactor located near Damascus http://www.armscontrol.org/act/2007_10/NKSyria.asp Anybody who wants a reference has only to ask for it. Of course there is always the option some people without manners prefer, that of groundless accusation, in the hopes of embarrassing their victim.

  • 76. 0 0
    #71 Hannah's revenge fantasy
    • WWACD
    • 17.10.07
    • 15:42

    Are you scouting for errant drops of Haagen Dazs on your protruding gut as you type this blather? What have the Arabs ever forced Israel to do within it's own borders that makes you believe so fervently that our end is at hand? You want to supplant a Jewish state with an Islamic one that will operate under pretty much the same guidelines (Arab Aliyah, Islamic based laws, etc). This will never happen, but theoretically speaking: Just look at other Arab states. What is so great about them that you want another one. What claim do the Arabs have on the land that we don't other than one very sterile UN resolution that prohibits annexation. This one very vanilla UN ruling cannot possibly inspire you level of zeal on its own so you are obviously an interested party: An abbadabba (so let's drop this Hannah silliness. How's Hana'? Happiness). Finally Hana', what would the Arabs do with their state? They are useless. Please only answer the questions Peace Through Victory

  • 75. 0 0
    SOME facts beyond doubt.Syria removed recordsof North Korean ship
    • PETER SM
    • 17.10.07
    • 15:39

    coming to Syria just prior to the IAF operation. North Korea a country that never seems to be quoted on Middle East issues suddenly condemned the raid.

  • 74. 0 0
    Hannah #71 - And The Sephardic Cousins
    • Dick Hertz
    • 17.10.07
    • 15:38

    "I assume that the Palestinians will take good care of their Sephardic cousins after the liberation of Palestine". Hannah In the same manner that Iraq took care of them in the pogroms of 1941 and the mass expulsion forced on them in the late 40's and early 50's (oh! just about 850,000 expelled, with just their clothes on, no big deal). Regarding Iran, Jews live in fear there. That is why 2/3 of them left (again, with all their assests left behind). The others are too poor or old to leave.

  • 73. 0 0
    Prememptive strike???
    • Joe
    • 17.10.07
    • 15:36

    Preemption is synonymous with "agression". If Syria attacked any Israeli site , it will be a declaration of war. But when Israel "attacks" , it is OK , it isd self defence. Syria or nobody else should not have any nuclear facilities , but Israel , should have anything it wants . Twisted logic of the powerful in this world.....

  • 72. 0 0
    paraphrasing
    • Tess
    • 17.10.07
    • 15:21

    "Israel was the fourth largest exporter of weapons of mass destruction and a violator of other nations' airspace, and it had taken action against nuclear facilities, including the 6 July attack in Syria," the release paraphrased al-Jaafari as saying.... Some questions have to be asked when one paraphrases.... 1. The political motivation of the person paraphrasing... As it is said to be a UN memo, that should not really be at issue. 2. What was added and eliminated in the "paraphrasing". Words like "purported", "supposed", "unconfirmed", ect..... Entire previous sentences and paragraphs of a conversation, ect.... Paraphrasing is a dangerous business. 3. Errors happen. There is already one as to the date. Either al-Jaafari was misinformed, or misspoke, or the paraphraser missed something or was not paying attention. Without official transcripts, this remains hearsay and conjecture.

  • 71. 0 0
    #67, Dick Hertz
    • Hannah
    • 17.10.07
    • 15:20

    Wow, are you behind the times. That Kuwait incubator show has been thoroughly discredited. If you are seriously wondering about how Muslims will treat Jews in Palestine, you have only to read the Koran. For those teachings in action, you have only to look at Jews in Turkey, Iran, etc. They apparently have no complaints, and are well adjusted into diaspora in those countries. I expect that the zionist experiment 'will end not with a bang but a whimper': in other words, when the going gets rough, the vacationing idealistic zionists will dutifully make their way to ben-Gurion airport and take their seats, back home to diaspora again. I assume that the Palestinians will take good care of their Sephardic cousins after the liberation of Palestine.

  • 70. 0 0
    To Sol #61: Hannah as a James Bond villain
    • WWACD
    • 17.10.07
    • 15:18

    "If you are able to answer this question, then I`ll send you on my next question." OMG that sounds ominous! ...how do you send someone on a question? Is this some jive new talk you kids are communicating in these days? "She is a paid propagandist residing in some ministry office in Tehran or with their friends Hamas or Hizbullah." If she is really getting paid for such a poor effort I know a guy that can get Tehran a tax refund on it. You build her up too much: Hunkered down in Tehran. Danger her middle name. A rumor of a shadow. Fighting the Zionist forces always one step behind her svelte lithe form. Frustrating our iniquitous plans at every turn. Is that really who you think this poster is!? Dude, she is probably some bitter, fat, pimply lesbo from Baltimore that lives in her parents basement impotently projecting her seething hate and inadequacies on a unfeeling computer monitor. That, or some Arab guy with a GED and a dictionary in some internet cafe. Peace Through Victory

  • 69. 0 0
    Are we there yet?
    • joebhed
    • 17.10.07
    • 15:13

    Facility? Building? Reactor? Was? Is? He said. She said. But I am hopeful. The UN organization called the IAEA has requested any information that a nuclear facility had been struck by the IDF. This, along with a statement that none of the nuclear facilities in Syria that are under IAEA safeguards had been hit. Now it seems that another UN organization, FCDIS, has a press release where it is reported they "paraphrased" the Syrian attendee as saying that it may have been a nuclear facility. The Syrians say they were not correctly reported in the "paraphrase". It can be easily seen, that if the quoted "paraphrase, had the commas in the wrong place, then the statement would not say that IDF attacked a nuclear facility on September 6. I am confident that the IAEA will contact the FCDIS and get to the bottom of this part of the issue. Then we can resume the discussion here. In the meantime, I appreciate the good-natured humoring among the participants. Peace.

  • 68. 0 0
    #35 the mystery irish tinker who never gets up before midday
    • victor hardman
    • 17.10.07
    • 15:02

    labarse ther are towns in the us a called ireland which stae is your town in ! keep repeating the posts which show that the anti semites which prop each other up are the same. a special mention for boris karloff who calls himself clickfool!

  • 67. 0 0
    Hannah # 50 Re Gloating At The Fall Of Israel
    • Dick Hertz
    • 17.10.07
    • 14:42

    Is it going to be similar to the fall of Kuwait where Moslem on Moslem brutality included raping and pillaging a country, killing babies in their incubators, and setting oil fields, buildings and homes on fire and random shooting of the people for target practise? Or will Moslem on Jewish brutality will be more measured?

  • 66. 0 0
    #61, Sol
    • Hannah
    • 17.10.07
    • 14:38

    Shlomo won't respond because his zionist conditioning will not allow him to respond to simple (as in sentence structure) questions. Thus it is for all the zionist brain-washees. They're great at Dershowitzian grand speeches and diatribes (imprinted, of course); however a simple question cannot be answered. I am simply challenging poor old Shmuel to either answer or not answer, just to see how far the zionist golemization has gone. Just by the way, why are you squatting as an ardent zionist Fifth Columnist in Canada? No courage? Try answering my one simple question to you: betcha can't do it!

  • 65. 0 0
    #58 18 and others - it's now in official UN protocol
    • Shlomo
    • 17.10.07
    • 14:35

    On Tuesday, a UN press release sent after a meeting of the First Committee, Disarmament and International Security, in New York paraphrased Syria's UN ambassador, Bashar al-Jaafari, as saying that a nuclear facility was hit. end of arguments. He can deny it as mucvh as he likes - A UN Committee PR has never been accused of being pro-Israeli, to say the least.

  • 64. 0 0
    28 in re to 7...may be a fake but is TRUE
    • The Equalizer
    • 17.10.07
    • 14:32

    I can't tell the difference between your fake and you.....except the fake has a grip on reality and sounds like a caring, open-minded person while you merely sound like a broken record.

  • 63. 0 0
    Syria to Clickfook - You are not getting it.
    • WWACD
    • 17.10.07
    • 14:25

    "Let me spell it out for you. Syria certainly does have nuclear facilities." -Clickfool "No no, let us spell it out for you: Syria (that's us) denied ... that an Israel Air Force strike last month targeted [a] NUCLEAR FACILITY, and added that such facilities DO NOT EXIST in Syria" -Syria Let me ask you this (ignore the previous lines, it's just humor to rile you. If you really want me to take you seriously so we can discuss the issues then answer the following): If Israel had attacked a "harmless" nuclear facility (of which Syria has none) then why doesn't Syria just come out and say so? Moreover, why is there no mass condemnation by the Arab world over the attack? Could it be that they know what Syria was up to and they are secretly thanking Israel for playing sheriff and keeping order in the region? Hmmmmm? Peace Through Victory

  • 62. 0 0
    Lakshmi: When you say "we" do you mean as in "we indians"?
    • WWACD
    • 17.10.07
    • 14:09

    I don't know. I don't think "slow" is the word I'd use (but the question looked rhetorical, so what do I know). You sound kinda funny when you speak, but on the whole I'd say you are about average. "Azad said that the building was an unused military building.Presently,it is being used as a civilian site(for civilian nuclear projects approved by IAEA).Difference between `was` and `is` !" I think you are getting too metaphysical about a very simple statement. What Assad meant by 'was' is that the building no longer exists. It doesn't have an 'is'. See! Now you get it! I told you that you Mahout's aren't so slow. Peace Through Victory

  • 61. 0 0
    to Shlomo
    • Sol
    • 17.10.07
    • 13:59

    Why even waste time responding to an unrepentant anti-Semite like Hannah? She is a paid propagandist residing in some ministry office in Tehran or with their friends Hamas or Hizbullah.

  • 60. 0 0
    For WWACD # 54
    • Clickfool
    • 17.10.07
    • 13:57

    "Oh what tangled webs we weave" You're the only one who's confused here, WWACD. Let me spell it out for you. Syria certainly does have nuclear facilities. It is, for example, working on extraction of uranium from its vast phosphate deposits. These facilities are all known to, and approved by the IAEA. The IAEA even helps these projects. It does not have a nuclear reactor. The propaganda being pumped out that the IAF hit a nuclear reactor is a lie. It hit something, and my belief is that it is one of the nuclear facilities that are known to the IAEA. Clear now?

  • 59. 0 0
    For S # 51
    • Clickfool
    • 17.10.07
    • 13:50

    "Syria is contradicting you: " such (nuclear) facilities do not exist in Syria, state-run news agency said. Your "knowledge", like Towers, appears Fawlty." I do believe we're talking about a nuclear REACTOR here, S - which the Syrians say they don't have, and which I believe. You can't hit something that doesn't exist. The nuclear facilities which Syria does have are all known to, and approved by the IAEA

  • 58. 0 0
    Syria denies what Israel confirms Syria confirmed
    • 18
    • 17.10.07
    • 13:48

    Hello Haaretz, in a pickle??? Always check facts, Ziv wasn't even there.

  • 57. 0 0
    IAEA but no enhanced inspection
    • Shlomo
    • 17.10.07
    • 13:47

    To everyone claiming Syrias nuclear sites are all under IAEA inspection read Glenn Kessler's article in Washington Post http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/12/AR2007091202430.html: "Syria has signed the nuclear nonproliferation treaty but has not agreed to an additional protocol that would allow for enhanced inspections by the International Atomic Energy Agency" To be fair, Israel has also not signed it, let acknowledged that they ahve sites

  • 56. 0 0
    For Labhras # 35
    • Clickfool
    • 17.10.07
    • 13:40

    I see our friend Victor Hardman/Paul Harris is now posting from the state of Belfast. Did I miss something in the papers? Has Belfast declared UDI? Nobody told me.

  • 55. 0 0
    "Miriam Ziv, who took part in the UN meeting."
    • Miriam Weller
    • 17.10.07
    • 13:39

    Have you checked that information Barak Ravid? It would be rather embarrassing if it turned out that he wasn't even present. I mean you are a journalist, aren't you? What is it with the truth that is so scary that checking out facts just isn't done. Pants on fire????

  • 54. 0 0
    Syria to Clickfook
    • WWACD
    • 17.10.07
    • 13:38

    "Syria has a number of "nuclear facilities"" -Clickfook "Syria denied ... that an Israel Air Force strike last month targeted nuclear facility, and added that such facilities DO NOT exist in Syria" -State run Syrian news agency "I believe that all that Israel has done is attack one of these facilities, without justification and without the smallest evidence that the Syrian are doing anything untoward" -Clickfook (14-10-07) "No, no. Seriously, it was not a nuclear facility. Do you not understand plain English Clickfook?" -Syria Oh what tangled webs we weave Who to believe when caught between a known liar and a fool? Peace Through Victory

  • 53. 0 0
    For Efox # 32
    • Clickfool
    • 17.10.07
    • 13:36

    "we will finally have no choice but to destroy them all, along with anyone in the west that was foolish enough to help them" You're posting from New Mexico, Efox. Are you threatening on behalf of the USA or Israel or both? And who exactly are you threatening? You mention Russia as helping Syria. Are you planning to attack them? Or have you just opened your mouth and let your belly rumble?

  • 52. 0 0
    #15 Margie knows what the IAEA knows...
    • Johnboy
    • 17.10.07
    • 13:34

    M: " 'Syria maintains a single, miniature, 30-kilowatt research reactor located near Damascus' This is the sum of information from IAEA on Syria." No, that's the sum total of REACTORS that the IAEA knows about in Syria. There are other "nuclear facilities" that the IAEA knows about. Here's another one that is IAEA sponsored: http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/syria/homs.htm This 1996 report: http://www.iaea.org/About/Policy/GC/GC41/Documents/rhigh.html mentions Syria a number of times. M: "This facility was unknown to them and therefore not legitimate." Says who, Margie?

  • 51. 0 0
    Clickfool again. No wonder you don't answer my question to you.
    • S
    • 17.10.07
    • 13:34

    Syria is contradicting you: " such (nuclear) facilities do not exist in Syria, state-run news agency said. Your "knowledge", like Towers, appears Fawlty.

  • 50. 0 0
    #49, 17
    • Hannah
    • 17.10.07
    • 13:29

    You haven't yet seen gloating: just wait until we anti-Israeli types (nb: 'anti-Israeli' and not 'anti-semitic') witness the final downfall of evil zionism, aka so-called Israel, and then you can watch gloating: actually, it will be a world-wide celebration. PS: Do any of my posts make even a small indentation upon your apparently frozen-in-time mind? I ask myself why I even bother responding to a probable zionist robot/golem numbered 17. If you are within the far reaches of humanity, do please send a sign.

  • 49. 0 0
    25WWWACD,a little slow on the uptake,are we?
    • lakshmi
    • 17.10.07
    • 13:18

    Azad said that the building was an unused military building.Presently,it is being used as a civilian site(for civilian nuclear projects approved by IAEA).Difference between 'was' and 'is' !

  • 48. 0 0
    #41, Shlomo
    • Hannah
    • 17.10.07
    • 13:18

    I see that complex issues greatly disturb you: therefore, I'll take on one issue at a time. Question to you, Shlomo: Are you not squatting upon Palestinian land, wherever your current and temporary abode is viz-a-viz the green line? If you are able to answer this question, then I'll send you on my next question. BTW, no need for you to cite your citations to me.

  • 47. 0 0
    Good mornign labrat
    • Sol
    • 17.10.07
    • 13:14

    Am I to understand from your post that you support Syria obtaining or developing nuclear arms? Iran as well? Like it or not Israel is not a signatory to the NPT while these two are.

  • 46. 0 0
    The problem about constantly being caught lying
    • IBra
    • 17.10.07
    • 12:53

    is that nobody believes you anymore. Soon we will be privy to the transcripts of the meeting and then most likely we will see that it is just another lie from a state that do lie for "operational reasons" as they put it. You are liars and will once again be caught with your pants down, lying.

  • 45. 0 0
    #24 David
    • Shlomo
    • 17.10.07
    • 12:51

    Hannah did not post the link so here it is http://www.juancole.com/ (The CIA analyst blog is on Oct 15). Interesting viewpoint but largely by-passed by time. See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Cole to see where Juan Cole is coming from

  • 44. 0 0
    Chris Linthwaite
    • WWACD
    • 17.10.07
    • 12:50

    "If I were Syrian I would do what I said in post #27. Israel could keep bombing empty buildings, whilst Syria can quietly patiently produce the Plutonium to achieve parity with Israel." All grammar and spelling correct It's a shame that Arabs aren't too smart or they might have followed your advice Peace Through Victory

  • 43. 0 0
    No they are talking about
    • Unnamed Syrian Deleg
    • 17.10.07
    • 12:45

    me, not my colleague above. I, actually, was quite flattered, that Israelis trusted me to tell them what the IDF is up to.

  • 42. 0 0
    The same old pattern
    • Mark Lincoln
    • 17.10.07
    • 12:39

    This story is so reminicent of 2002. White House officials leak lies about Saddam's WMD to the NY Times, and then cite the fact that those lies were reported in the Times as 'proof' that the lies were true. Same old lies, same old guys, and same old methods.

  • 41. 0 0
    #24 Hannah
    • Shlomo
    • 17.10.07
    • 12:38

    I was writing to Clickfool about Assad's contradiction and you are throwing me invectives about squatting Palestinian land and belonging to the Rotschildean store? Who is more intellectual? Just FYI - I have an M.SC. from a European university is the author of 8 patents (which proves I can think outside the box, I guess), have published numerous articles (some even awarded as Best in Class)and translated 3 books. And no, I am not squatting on Palestinian land - I live in a freehold house inside the green line. But don't let facts confuse you - you are intellectually, independently anti-anything that even smells pro-Israeli

  • 40. 0 0
  • 39. 0 0
  • 38. 0 0
    #31 WWACD
    • Chris Linthwaite
    • 17.10.07
    • 12:34

    If I were Syrian I would do what I said in post #27. Israel could keep bombing empty buildings, whilst Syria can quietly patiently produce the Plutonium to achieve parity with Israel.

  • 37. 0 0
    Another unsubstantiated statement
    • Mark Lincoln
    • 17.10.07
    • 12:33

    If Syria admits the claim, then why doesn't Israel just tell the 'truth'? Note that all locations cited in various 'leaks' have been visited by independent journalists and no evidence of any attack has been seen. All locations have been checked via satellite photos and no evidence of a reactor has been found. The story continues via leaks and other twaddle, but the FACTS are that those leaks have flunked all real examination. For a summary: p://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/war/070906-airstrike.htm

  • 36. 0 0
    #1 so called dishonest peacenik Margie
    • Labhras
    • 17.10.07
    • 12:32

    wrote----""Syria maintains a single, miniature, 30-kilowatt research reactor located near Damascus" This is the sum of information from IAEA on Syria. This facility was unknown to them and therefore not legitimate." Some advice for Syria Based on Margie,s logic. Simply refuse to deny or confirm existance of nuclear facility/s.It seems to work for Israel. Double standards again Margie from SA. Peacemaker---Yeah right.

  • 35. 0 0
    #13 Paul Harris aka victor hardkopf
    • Labhras
    • 17.10.07
    • 12:20

    Ah so Victor, du bist immer am leben. Well paul, I see you are still trying to pull the wool over peoples eyes.How do you explain the following post where you entered "belfast" as your location.Please explain why you would make such an error.There is only one.You are potsing as hardhead. Title: SIVIENNE ISRAEL HAS AGIANT TRENCHING MACHINE LYING IDLE Name: paul harris City: belfast State: IF THIS MACHINE HAD DUG A TRENCH FROM THE RED SEA TO THE EDGE OF GAZA ABUTTING ISRAEL AND IT FILLED WITH SEA WATER THIS WOULD HAVE STOPPED THE SMUGGLING TUNNELS 10 YEARS AGO ! post #25 to silvienne

  • 34. 0 0
    Can you feel it lakshmi?
    • Johnny
    • 17.10.07
    • 12:19

  • 33. 0 0
    Gotta suck this one for all bashers, leftists, peace-now whatever
    • Johnny
    • 17.10.07
    • 12:18

    Oooops, you were wrong - Syria did have a military nuclear facility, in violation with innumerous UN laws, treaties etc. Oooops, how does it make you feel bashers? Like a shamed kid? It should that is what you are see.

  • 32. 0 0
    re: Clickfool
    • Efox
    • 17.10.07
    • 12:15

    That little Egyptian Run UN Organization does not know what is in Egypt, let alone Syria. Your friends will keep trying to imitate our technology and we will keep destroying their facilities no matter how many toys the Russians give them. The day they get too close for comfort, then we will finally have no choice but to destroy them all, along with anyone in the west that was foolish enough to help them.

  • 31. 0 0
    Chris Linthwaite
    • WWACD
    • 17.10.07
    • 12:12

    It's "if I WERE Syrian"

  • 30. 0 0
    #24, David
    • Hannah
    • 17.10.07
    • 12:07

    Yep, I'm happy to do that: Informed Comment.com. Alternatively, Juan Cole.com. Regards, Hannah.

  • 29. 0 0
    Of course it was an empty building...
    • Uri
    • 17.10.07
    • 12:05

    ...until they started to assemble a reactor there!

  • 28. 0 0
    For Shlomo # 10
    • Clickfool
    • 17.10.07
    • 12:03

    You're a very gullible fellow, Shlomo. Read message #7 again. It is CLEARLY a fake - so obvious a fake that I didn't even bother to flag it as such.

  • 27. 0 0
    If I was Syrian
    • Chris Linthwaite
    • 17.10.07
    • 12:01

    I would build a reactor in plain sight to keep the Israelis entertained. Whilst building another in a mountain somewhere to produce Plutonium for a peacekeeper missile. So if I was Syria I would clear up the mess and start again at exactly the same site. Nothing would aggravate the Israelis more. Except this time I would involve the IAEA to monitor it. It has worked for Iran.

  • 26. 0 0
    Margie #15
    • Guido
    • 17.10.07
    • 11:58

    Don't forget to mention however that it was Israel that introduced nuclear weapons in the ME!

  • 25. 0 0
    Lakshmi, my favorite Julab
    • WWACD
    • 17.10.07
    • 11:57

    If on the one hand a building is "unused" and "military" and on the other hand it is a "nuclear installation" that is "civilian" We have what we call in the English language a C O N T R A D I C T I O N "All the civilian nuclear projects that Syria has with the knowledge & co operation of IAEA are,by definition not MILITARY !" Sure, the ones (and I quote) that "Syria has with the knowledge & co operation of IAEA". Assad, however, called the building "military" and lo! we have another of those pesky 'contradiction' thingys. Peace Through Victory

  • 24. 0 0
    Hannah
    • David
    • 17.10.07
    • 11:52

    Could you post the link to Cole's take on the sep 6. Thanks

  • 23. 0 0
  • 22. 0 0
    WOW - Bashar LIED!
    • matt
    • 17.10.07
    • 11:39

    he also said that syria wants peace and stability for lebanon and israel, as well as freedom and democracy in his own country. could he be lying about that too???

  • 21. 0 0
    #10, Shlomo, still squatting upon Palestinian land
    • Hannah
    • 17.10.07
    • 11:35

    Has it ever occurred to you that not all of us are as intellectually hobbled as what you seemingly are? That some of us continue to own our own intelligence? We have not signed our thinking powers away to the Rothschildean company store, as you clearly seem to have done. The difference between Clickfool and you, as I read your post, would seem to be that Clickfool remains an 'independent' in his thinking, easily able to juggle conflicting ideas and make sense out of them; while you seem to be in the ignominous position of the pathetic true-believer who once said: "As long as I am a Priest in the Temple, I will continue to toll the Bell": a perfect example of mindless loyalty to a cause which requires the shutting-down of the G-d-given ability to think.

  • 20. 0 0
    Do look for the truth, and try not to swallow even more lies
    • Hannah
    • 17.10.07
    • 11:26

    As we can all understand from the secrecy surrounding this-whatever-happened-on-September-6th-event, truth is difficult to find, and lies are now beginning to leak out in abundance. Bear in mind that it was not only the zionist flyover or whatever in Syria; on that same day, planes equipped with nuclear weapons were flown across the USofA. You who live in so-called Israel certainly understand that none of the zionist press was not allowed any reportage whatsoever on the subject, and so were forced to humbly await the meagre bits of PR which the IDF/IAF issued. I suggest reading yesterday's column by a CIA expert on Juan Cole's Informed Comment blog. That none of us understand the September 6th game does not mean that others do not understand it perfectly well. By others, I mean Syria, Iran, Russia and China. They are taking steps to contain whatever threat was generated to their interests upon that date. We see those steps taking place now in Beijing, Teheran and Ankara.

  • 19. 0 0
    Official Quoted?? Says who?
    • Alex
    • 17.10.07
    • 11:11

    Why isnt such direct confirmation published on the UN website? Ynetnews says "Unnamed Officials Overheard" where its "Quoted". Was the Syrian Ambassador having direct diolog with an Israeli?? get real people and stop beliving the lies published in the media.. When both governments officially make a statement we will believe until then the story stands as Israeli attempted to hit something strategic but failed? and hence the silence from the Israeli government

  • 18. 0 0
    #12 roger gets splinters in his arse sliding down the bannister
    • victor hardman
    • 17.10.07
    • 11:06

    an your source for these revelations? assads book of optical illusions for those requiring sight correction? stick to the four hour mile roger !

  • 17. 0 0
    Where is the official confirmation?
    • UN POST
    • 17.10.07
    • 11:00

    Lets see, A Syrian dalegate attending a un meeting knowing a Israeli official is present.. That in itself is extreamly hard to believe. On top of that, If Syria has confirmed the reports why hasnt it made it made a public statement?? Stop spreading lies and deciving your public to try and cover up a failed mission

  • 16. 0 0
    4Shlomo where's the contradiction in Azad saying that it was an
    • lakshmi
    • 17.10.07
    • 10:59

    unused MILITARY building? All the civilian nuclear projects that Syria has with the knowledge & co operation of IAEA are,by definition not MILITARY !

  • 15. 0 0
    #1 Incorrect information
    • Margie in Tel Aviv
    • 17.10.07
    • 10:57

    "Syria maintains a single, miniature, 30-kilowatt research reactor located near Damascus" This is the sum of information from IAEA on Syria. This facility was unknown to them and therefore not legitimate.

  • 14. 0 0
    CLICKFOOL AND ASSAD ARE ONE
    • Nephtaly
    • 17.10.07
    • 10:52

    They both are embarrased by this report. Im dancing in the streets right now :)

  • 13. 0 0
    #9 clikko fails to apologise to talkback
    • victor hardman
    • 17.10.07
    • 10:51

    like your alter ego labarse you have nothing useful to say . reread your posts on the s air attack on syria and aplogise !

  • 12. 0 0
    "If accurate" ha ha ha ha ha ha
    • Roger Bannister
    • 17.10.07
    • 10:47

    The very essence of Hasbara is that it isn't. No it wasn't a daring raid on a nuclear facility by the brave IDF, it was a failed mission where they had to bail out and flee for their lives. They got home safe to base and that was the only success. The idea to reach Iran by flying along the Turkish border is now a closed option, but Barak isn't a guy that would like to look like the looser he is. He should stick to what he is good at, killing children in the Gaza refugee camps.

  • 11. 0 0
    Clickfool #1
    • S
    • 17.10.07
    • 10:43

    "Syria has a number of "nuclear facilities" all known to, and approved by, the IAEA." (C) Your statement does not respond to - "The Times said the nuclear reactor was modeled on one North Korea had used to create its stockpile of nuclear weapons fuel." Do you know whether this is false or true? Do you know whether IAEA knows about it? Do you know what responses, if any, were received by IAEA to their recent question to all as to what they know about Syria's atomic activities?

  • 10. 0 0
    #7 Clickfool
    • Shlomo
    • 17.10.07
    • 10:42

    At least you are honest about yr hatred and therefore there is nothing I or anybody else can do to convince you otherwise. I will stop referring to yr Talkbacks; I hope others will do the same - that nobody will take notice of you should make you really mad...

  • 9. 0 0
    For "Victor Hardman" # 3
    • Clickfool
    • 17.10.07
    • 10:13

    Which personas are you using today, "Victor Hardman" or "Paul Harris"? My advice is to use only the one - you sometimes get confused when you try to post under the two names, sliding into upper case, for example, when you are pretending to be "Victor", and as "Paul" using the invective that only "Victor" posts. My general advice would be to abandon both names and try another. You might trick me and other posters into replying to your mad posts again for a while

  • 8. 0 0
    Syria's nuclear capability
    • Peter XM
    • 17.10.07
    • 10:01

    Israel bombed this facility as an attempt to provoke war and scupper any chances of the Annapolis conference from succeeding. That hasn't happened. Syria will rebuild this reactor in the near future, unless a solution can be found for the Golan Hieghts. All that has happened is Syria has been delayed a couple of years from achieving parity with Israel. In fact it could even have been a dummy reactor to buy Syria time.

  • 7. 0 0
    #4
    • Clickfool
    • 17.10.07
    • 09:54

    Yes Shlomo, I'm afraid I am.

  • 6. 0 0
    Ricardo Lopez Dusil
    • David Segal
    • 17.10.07
    • 09:46

    There is a website in spanish, called "El Corresponsal" that translates only a selective (Amira Hass, Gideon Levi...) part of Haaretz. I wonder if Mr. Dusil will translate this non-anti israeli article.

  • 5. 0 0
    Thats not what I said !!!!!!!!!
    • Unnamed Syrian Deleg
    • 17.10.07
    • 09:40

    I said the sky is green and the grass is blue. Prove me wrong!!!

  • 4. 0 0
    Repeating claims don't change facts
    • Shlomo
    • 17.10.07
    • 09:29

    Clickfool, by repeating your previous claims of "civilian nuclear facilities approved by the IAEA" you can't change the facts. Assad said it was "unused MILITARY building" - suddenly it turns into civilian. Come on - even a rabid antizionist like yourself can't be fooled to be believe such BS - or are you that blinded by your hatred?

  • 3. 0 0
    #1&2 should get together and discuss facts
    • victor hardman
    • 17.10.07
    • 09:19

    something so far both are totally incapable of managing in uncountable posts to haaretz! the brainless clikko neds to make profuse apologies !!

  • 2. 0 0
    Army radio, unnamed Syrian delegate, New York Times.
    • Maureen Ann
    • 17.10.07
    • 08:30

    "And Syria has denied involvement in any such activities in Syria." Enough said!

  • 1. 0 0
    Syria has a number of "nuclear facilities"
    • Clickfool
    • 17.10.07
    • 08:21

    ...all known to, and approved by, the IAEA.