• Published 00:00 18.03.07
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Supreme U.S. commander in Europe calls Israel 'model state'

Commends Israel's stability, says it encourages democratic ideals and pro-Western values and economics.

By Amir Oren

The supreme commander of NATO operations in Europe and head of the U.S. European Command (EUCOM), John Craddock, has called Israel a "model state" and the United States' closest ally in the Middle East.

Craddock, speaking before the U.S. House Armed Services Committee in Washington Thursday, said Israel consistently and directly supported U.S. interests by means of security cooperation and understanding U.S. policy in the region.

He commended the stability of Israel's government and said Israel was a model state that encouraged democratic ideals and pro-Western values and economics.

Craddock also said Israel was the main beneficiary of U.S. security aid funds and was a "critical military partner" in what he called "this entangled seam of the Middle East."

Craddock's comments were unusual for a senior officer in the U.S. military, especially compared with his predecessor, U.S. Marine Corps General James L. Jones, who retired from EUCOM around three months ago. The hearing Craddock spoke at is an annual event. Jones, in his address a year ago, ignored Israel.

Craddock said Israel will receive this year more than 93 percent of the military aid in the EUCOM area - $2.4 billion out of some $2.54 billion for all of Europe and Africa.

The supreme commander of NATO operations in Europe and head of the U.S. European Command (EUCOM), John Craddock speaking in Poland last month. (Reuters)

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  • 388. 0 0
    387: Puppy from Madrid talking about occupation? Funny
    • David Teich
    • 21.03.07
    • 10:39

    1) Spain still controls Moroccan territory 2) And it still won't allow the Basque independence Yet neither Morocco nor the Basque demand the destruction of Spain. Somehow, the Spanish fool blames Israel for the consequences of a war declared and continued by Arabs for the stated goal of Israel's destruction. From Skayani's post, you can tell two thing about him/her: 1) Supported Isabella's eviction of Jews from Spain 2) Believes the Spanish were to blame for Guernica

  • 387. 0 0
    shame for the Craddock
    • skayani
    • 20.03.07
    • 19:13

    Mr.Craddock should visit the Palestinean occupied teroraries and then should be asked about the state of israhell.If he is not a zionist then he is bought out by them or is just frightened by their power. No other reason to be ignorant than that.

  • 386. 0 0
    187: Poor Mimi, talking about apologists (3rd try)(
    • David Teich
    • 20.03.07
    • 13:22

    Gee, little one, I too can list urls: http://camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&x_outlet=118&x_article=1246 http://www.honestreporting.com/articles/45884734/critiques/Guardian_Promotes_Apartheid_Slur.asp and more. what you and your urls never do is directly address Carter's: 1) Redefining a well understood word that has loaded content, claiming it means something completely different but relying on the original loaded emotional reaction 2) Refuses to admit this is war time, with Pals and other Arabs dedicated to Israel's destruction. In wartime, enemy aliens always have limitations. As is not at all surprising, the url you give does the same. For instance, refusing to admit the "Jewish only" roads are: 1) Israeli only, Jewish, Muslim or Christian 2) Weren't Israeli only until many Israelis (Jews and Arabs) were killed on those roads by Pal terrorists. You continue to be an apologist for terror. Thanks for so succinctly proving my point.

  • 385. 0 0
    U.S. Commander
    • P. J. Casey
    • 19.03.07
    • 23:37

    Bush found a Neoconservative General to put another target on the back of American troops in the Middle East. We will be lucky to survive two more years of Bush.

  • 384. 0 0
    #369 Daffy Dutch & Marilyn
    • * BEN JABO
    • 19.03.07
    • 23:23

    Marilyn mis-stated her illness. It encompasses more than "The bone". Google Marilyn Shepherd- Australia, she's a chronic malcontent, kvetches about everything and anything. Hates her government in Australia. Like yourself, she lives to condemn and hate. Nothing constructive, simply old fashio venom.

  • 383. 0 0
    #367 EM; well, all you say may well be
    • ballistic
    • 19.03.07
    • 16:29

    Arab land is Arab land. How much land they own is not really relevant for the issues, is it? The Arabs didn't perpetrate the holocaust and the Pals have zero to do with it. What is your underlying argument, that the world owes you Greater Israel cause you had hard times? If not, exactly what are you arguing? Is this 'claim' based on DNA or religious affiliations and what evidence do you have that you have DNA ties to the holy land? What do you wanna do, wholesale move the Pals for your convenience? The Pals have not cried uncle all this time, and Israel is seen internationally as a bully, along with Pappa US. So, what is the claim based on? As to the history you lay out of the Jews, nothing happens without at the vrey least god's permission, nothing. Regards.

  • 382. 0 0
    #356 Maureen
    • ballistic
    • 19.03.07
    • 16:24

    I watched the special on TV titled, "who killed JFK" where they interviewed living witnesses (most died very curiously, one by a karate chop), including the mistress of Johnson, who claims to have a son by him, and they all suggest that there was complicity at the highest levels of the US gov't, one witness suggesting it was the military industrial complex. Best book I ever read on the subject is called, "Best evidence", really an eye opener cause he uses FBI files with cites. Regards.

  • 381. 0 0
    #349 Maureen Ann - Of course your afraid
    • * BEN JABO
    • 19.03.07
    • 16:10

    to respond. You've posted so much baloney, you could open a sausage factory. Endless statistics, without substantiation. One million cluster bombs morphed into four million, all within the course of a single day. Of course I'd have no compunction of shooting any stone thrower who menaced me or mine. Those very same "children" have no compunction of setting off the bombs in the midst of innocent civilians, after all, that's what they're trained for. When anyone is as rabid as your and the other haters, it's best that you be tranquilized to avoid your harming yourself and others. Meanwhile, you still haven't attended to your very own Aussie Muslim Rapists and your persecuted Aboriginies. As for the Aussie Muslim Rapists, I keep mentioning it because your so neglectful. All you haters, that just what you are, can scratch each others backs, and kiss mutual backsides, since that's what turns you on. Oh yes, I Googled your buddy Marilyn Shepherd, she's a real malcontent.

  • 380. 0 0
    Israel is a 'model' alright........
    • T A Sheppard
    • 19.03.07
    • 15:43

    Starved and anorexic in democratic principles.......a welfare state......a theocracy as guilty of jihad as any Arab state or group........... This guy is juts a mouthpiece.........he obviously isn't wel educated or sane to think israel is a model state in any positive connotation of the word.........there were Israeli's also who cheered on 9/11....they saw opprtunity, while human beings saw the horro of how badly mankind can teat their fellow mankind.

  • 379. 0 0
    Craddock walks the line
    • Jay Chamblin
    • 19.03.07
    • 14:34

    The good soldier, Gen. Craddock, is doing nothing more than walking the line laid down by his Commander-In-Chief, our born-again charismatic leader who startled the free world by proclaiming himself on assignment by the Lord himself and declaring Sharon to be ". . . a man of peace." Amen, Brothas and Sistas. All cleared for the Rapture! Praise Jesus y'all and get yo tickets to heaven - Disneyland. Take your choice.

  • 378. 0 0
    #325 nobodyscared
    • ChanahS
    • 19.03.07
    • 10:04

    Calling Israel the most hated country in the world shows a level of immaturity/ignorance/wishful thinking, because it is not factual. What is factual is that there's a lot of hippocracy going around. You haven't conducted a survey and those that have been conducted are scientifically unreliable. REality is far more reliable - foreign investment, tourism, joint projects - economic, industrial, academic, artistic etc.- in global settings indicate otherwise. I happen to read and travel extensively, so for you to assume that I focus on local propoganda is futile. You seem to forget that Haaretz is part of our "local propoganda". It seems as if you are the one who is subject to propoganda, and I'm willing to bet are quite ignorant of historical and other facts about Israel.

  • 377. 0 0
  • 376. 0 0
    @2, lavy, exactly so.
    • vladimir
    • 19.03.07
    • 08:55

  • 375. 0 0
  • 374. 0 0
    #371 Peter SM
    • Willy
    • 19.03.07
    • 08:45

    Peter, Thanks for the confirmation!!!! Regards Willy

  • 373. 0 0
    Gen. Craddock - Stimulating
    • Abe
    • 19.03.07
    • 08:43

    This man has elicited almost 400 comments here for boldly stating the obvious, "Israel is a model state that encourages democratic ideals." Some people here call the "Palestinians" democratic. An election in and of itself certainly does not make a democracy. A democracy is primarily about freedom. Yes, Israel encourages democratic ideals. Unfortunately, very few other states do in that part of the world. And for the fool who said, "this military man's expertise is in knowing how to kill", no - it is in knowing how to defend. General Craddock was wrong about one thing though. Egypt and the other Arab states together get exponentially more aid from America than Israel. And not just with a check. Oil, the poison that it is, is unfortunately the most subsidized product the world has ever known. General Craddock, the hero some of you demean, is an American whose military protects it. And who pays? Certainly not the Arab states whose entire economic existance depends on it.

  • 372. 0 0
    Wise words from a true friend
    • Shalom Freedman
    • 19.03.07
    • 08:15

    In comparison to our neighbors in terms of personal freedom , education opportunity openness to creative human abilities Israel is a paradise.

  • 371. 0 0
    WILLY.Some time ago "Marylin" gave her town as Bathurst same as
    • PETER SM
    • 19.03.07
    • 08:03

    Maureen while previously it was supposed to be elsewhere. Shades of Khalid Amaryeh,American living here,Christian,Israeli,KA,etc.etc.

  • 370. 0 0
    IF he called the Arabs "model" states,the "intelligentsia"could
    • PETER SM
    • 19.03.07
    • 07:42

    nod intelligently and praise the generals progressive and intelligent ideas. Would there be one squeek of protest?

  • 369. 0 0
    # 26 Marilyn, Sick to the bone...
    • Dutch
    • 19.03.07
    • 07:38

    "...Israel is a thuggish, apartheid, facist state..." Marilyn, Many Americans have reached this conclusion too and they are determined in their will to change things around. It is sick to the bone. I have full confidence good Americans and good Israelis will deliver on this. Hang in there. Dutch

  • 368. 0 0
    #363Funny Willy!
    • Maureen Ann
    • 19.03.07
    • 07:30

    I sometimes write posts in a hurry, Willy. I was giving my my regards to Marilyn. Please accept my kind regards to you Willy.

  • 367. 0 0
    Re:ballistic#331
    • e.m
    • 19.03.07
    • 07:21

    Those folks talking about land ownership thousands of years ago are ill Thousands years or ten thousands years we never give up our right for that land. Because it has been our land and the Jews always have been persecuted in Christians and Muslims nations enough is enough. Beside this conflict for Muslims is not for that tiny land which is least then 1% of the entire M.E.It all about religion of Islam that never accepted our existence other wise before war of 67 the W.B was under their control. Why they did not declare Palestinians State? Where are those moderate Arabs? This conflict will never be solved unless the Muslims will get new education and reformation in their religion like what the Christians and Jews did .And act of suicide bombers can not justified by any meaning Regards

  • 366. 0 0
    comment to the Tunisian
    • Honi
    • 19.03.07
    • 07:20

    Why do you only consider the Palestinians your brothers and not the Tunisian Jews (mostly completely innocent woman and children) who fled your country. If it is because of religion, then you are truly living in a world of illusions. Wake up to reality. Is Israel doomed. Well maybe, just as all humanity, considering the way we continue to behave.

  • 365. 0 0
    A real model state is "Indonesia"?
    • Willy
    • 19.03.07
    • 07:13

    Yes Indonesia the "model state" to the muslims and Indra would definately say,"it's good enough for me so it must be good enough for my brothers so who cares what others think". That's right,who cares what you think,that's what Craddock thinks!!!

  • 364. 0 0
    "Proud Palestinian" is an oxymoron
    • Proud American
    • 19.03.07
    • 07:07

    What on earth do Palestinians have to be proud of? Repeatedly getting their asses whipped? Killing 26 children at a Maalot elementary school? Blowing up the elderly at a passover dinner? introducing airline hijacking? inciting children to commit murder? nothing to be proud of here unless you are a devil worshiper. have a nice time in hamas hell!

  • 363. 0 0
    Maureen / Marilyn the same???????
    • Willy
    • 19.03.07
    • 06:57

    No wonder Ben is an admirer of Craddock (Guantanamo and all!) Thanks for your info Clickfool. Best regards Marilyn. ( Post 349 by Maureen ANN signed Marilyn) So Maureen Ann is actually Marilyn!!! No wonder two split personality in one!!! Forgive me if I did not know earlier, your posts are not worth reading!!!!

  • 362. 0 0
    Marilyn, "Gee, we even have indigenous doctors and professors..."
    • Mimi
    • 19.03.07
    • 06:56

    Does that off-set the fact that there is an education crisis in Indigenous Australia, where illiteracy rates are as high as 93% and educational attainment is often lower than in many Third World countries? Aborigianl Professor Marcia Langton holds the Inaugural Chair of Australian Indigenous Studies at the University of Melbourne. In 2003, she concluded that accelerated-learning programs she studied in Israel could be adapted to schools with a high percentage of indigenous students. In 2004, the Yachad Accelerated Learning Program (YALP) was launched and is based on education models from Israel that have been very successful in addressing similar problems to those identified among Australian indigenous students left behind by the regular school system. Educators of Australian Aborigine youth visited Israel to learn about educational Hebrew U.-sponsored programs for children [Jan 2007] https://www.bfhu.org/images/download/070124%20Australian%20Aborigine%20Youth.pdf

  • 361. 0 0
    #17 Abu Samra, This Shames many Americans
    • Dutch
    • 19.03.07
    • 06:54

    "Craddock said Israel will receive this year more than 93 percent of the military aid in the EUCOM area - $2.4 billion out of some $2.54 billion for all of Europe and Africa." Abu Samra, This shames many Americans I know. Fair minded people are sick of what Israel has become and what it is doing to their government. They are determined to clean it up. Dutch

  • 360. 0 0
    SAMI = AAA (ANOTHER ANGRY ARAB)
    • Osama Obama
    • 19.03.07
    • 06:53

    useless piece of trash

  • 359. 0 0
    Daniel - re Marilyn
    • Barry
    • 19.03.07
    • 06:48

    Daniel, don't waste your words on Marilyn. She's probably AAA (Another Angry Arab) in denial. She's unredeemably damaged in the head.

  • 358. 0 0
    To Tunisian # 353
    • Fortuna
    • 19.03.07
    • 06:43

    "Believe me, Israel is doomed !!!" Well, Israel nor the Jewish people have ever been doomed. Admirable Carthago is ruins at best, so is Rome, the Inquisition, the Zars, the Third Reich, the Soviet Union... But we Jews are still here. Don't believe me, just see for yourself: Israel-haters are doomed, just as anti-Semites are doomed. I hope soon there will be peace and full diplomatic relations between your precious country with its old culture and relatively tolerant policies, and Israel. There is no reason why not.

  • 357. 0 0
    Re:Labhras#345
    • e.m
    • 19.03.07
    • 06:40

    Of course I know where is your country located and I know also your country is not surrounded by 22 Islamic nations that they teaches to their kids how to hate the Jews and the Jews have no right to exist. It is what they learn and it is very important part of their education and it is a reason I have asked you that don?t compare Ireland with Israel. Our neighbors are not educated like a western countries and I do not care if that offended you. By the way I m not religion and beside they are many Jews that made reformation in their religion and Israel is seculars country too. Although I noticed when I was there whenever one asked an American Jew where they were from they always said they were jewish. It is not true at all and I m sure you made it up Now would you like please to answer to my Questions? One by one And what did you compromise? And where your country located? And who are your neighbors? And who are your enemies? And did your enemy believe in destruction of Ireland? And how many wars did your country have gone through? And despite of our problems with our enemies our economy also booming. Imaging if our neighbors were educated like yours

  • 356. 0 0
    #352ballistic. I read your post...
    • Maureen Ann
    • 19.03.07
    • 06:38

    re Israel's weapons export to China. Some articles I have read tell of America's dissatisfaction with Israeli/China weapons trade. I had to laugh when reading, an Israeli official made the statement of "we are two independant countries" (Israel and America.) Reading the Israeli news gives a glimpse of what could happen in the future-some future Israeli religio/military nutter with a super ego, and delusions of grandeur, just might take it upon himself to join up with the 'next' world super power...after he stages a coup. By the way ballistic, (something different, but the same) who do you surpose really assassinated JFK?

  • 355. 0 0
    Joseph E -- Thank you!
    • Gina
    • 19.03.07
    • 06:38

  • 354. 0 0
    #110 Brant, Living in denial...
    • Dutch
    • 19.03.07
    • 06:37

    Brant, It seems to me you are living in denial that your beloved state of Israel can do no harm. That's not even good patriotism in my book. Dutch

  • 353. 0 0
    to Moises
    • Tunisian
    • 19.03.07
    • 05:42

    I respect you coming from nothing and living very well. But coming from South america, you have to acknowledge the fact that Arabs held offices of Presidents (Argentina, Ecuador..) and hold very hign business and political positions in almost all the coutries. Regarding Jews in Tunisia, there is a thriving community of jews in DJerba with one of the word oldest Senagogue (Ghraiba) and a Senator in the Parliament, most of (Many fled in 1967 because of Israel?!) Believe me, I do not feel threatened by Israel, and do not even think about it most of the time, it's just an issue close to my heart like any other (i.e Iraq,Technology innovation...)which is not the case for Israelis since this is an existential survival issue you breath every day. Why do you hate Israel? Probably because it's opressing my brothers: The PALESTINIANS. and it's standing for an idea that makes Arabs invading Spain because they were there 800 years a very Normal thing!! Believe me Israel is doomed!!

  • 352. 0 0
    #334 Maureen Ann; read your post about Ben
    • ballistic
    • 19.03.07
    • 05:39

    Jabo. I don't have time to read all the posts as I work, but did he really express the views as you have succintly laid them out? He posted to me a couple of times, but no poster, even my many detractors, said anything close to that. Where is the soul in anyone who thinks like that, esp when they know their BS is not right, doesn't matter how they justify, solve it, it's BS!! I would think they would want to discuss peace, and stop with the BS, but I am wondering as our men and women are shown every night. Gonna need Solomon's wisdom/solution on this one. It is very sad. Regards. Ballistic

  • 351. 0 0
    Ha Ha Ha
    • Jon
    • 19.03.07
    • 05:39

    Just thinking of the spasms of anger this must give the arabs and the euros... Good! :-) The spirit of John Bolton lives.

  • 350. 0 0
    to Sami #16
    • Jews for peace
    • 19.03.07
    • 05:20

    You said the truth! Thank you!

  • 349. 0 0
    Clickfool and Marilyn, Ben Jabo sounds like a great admirer...
    • Maureen Ann
    • 19.03.07
    • 05:09

    of Craddock (said to be pro-Zionist.) I refuse to answer Ben Jabo's posts. He has been getting a little bit...nasty i.e. last week, raving about Australian rapists, and something about I should be made a victim. Today he has suggested you be tranquilized Clickfool and Marilyn be, 'put down' by a vet. I do understand the poor man's problem, he once lived in Israel, by his own admission said he would have no problem shooting, stone throwing Palestinian children if they bothered him. No wonder Ben is an admirer of Craddock (Guantanamo and all!) Thanks for your info Clickfool. Best regards Marilyn.

  • 348. 0 0
    #279 Labhras: Are You A Good Apolitical Artist?
    • Lavi
    • 19.03.07
    • 04:42

    Why don't you draw for us what you think are fair border lines for the State of Israel? These lines should be in agreement with all the PA factions and totally in Israel's right to defend if provoked. Draw clearly from careful research so that even you and Iran would vehemently defend Israel's defensive actions from these positions! I'm awaiting your sketch. Oh, by the way, have you ever set foot in this area in your life?

  • 347. 0 0
    Apartheid is an antisemitic bias
    • Anonymous
    • 19.03.07
    • 04:40

    Apartheid is a term used to elicit sympathy for the Palestinians and is an antisemitic bias. The real 100% sympathy being elicited should be for ISRAEL. J. Carter and UN, you are antisemites. What happened to Harry Truman, the friend of Israel. Stand up for Israel. Love.

  • 346. 0 0
    #326 Kath
    • Labhras
    • 19.03.07
    • 04:37

    Suggest you read my post to em above and follow my suggestions to him/her. Notice you are still looking outwards and placing all the blame elswhere. We learned as did the people of South Africa, that if you really want peace you have to compromise.Yeah I know you are going to tell me that it is the Arabs who dont want that. How do you explain Eygyp/Jordan and their peace with Israel. Books, lets see. Schlomo ben ami. Benny Morris, Susan Nathan,Jimmy carter, Dersowizch,Edward Said,David K Shipler, David Hirst. Good cross section there wouln,nt you agree.No one there who wants to take over the west. By the way we in Ireland lived with your problem for 600 years but we were on the receiving end , more the "Palestinian experience"if you see what I mean. Slainte

  • 345. 0 0
    #313 em
    • Labhras
    • 19.03.07
    • 04:23

    Perhaps you might do just a little of your own leg work before you send a non response such as you did. You would know where my country is and the main part of it,s history vis a vis neighbours and their intentions. As to your nothing short of racist remarks re educated neighbours if you do as suggested above you will find that having an "educated neighbour"is not always what it is cracked up to be and Israel is further proof of that, so you see you share another dubious distinction with my neighbour. Now as you live in the wonderful city of SF but more importantly America I was wondering if you had to give up your religion to get citizenship, that is if you are an American. Although I noticed when I was there whenever one asked an American Jew where they were from they always said they were jewish.One then found out they were born there. Most if not all others born there are proud to say "I am an American" and then add Irish or french or whatever. Slainte.

  • 344. 0 0
    G'D Bless America , its purple mountains , wheat grains fields ,
    • Joseph E .
    • 19.03.07
    • 04:02

    citizenry , troops , from sea to shiny sea , Amen ,

  • 343. 0 0
    # 128 Arab Neighbor
    • Lynn
    • 19.03.07
    • 03:54

    So is my surgeon. He lives in the States. He thinks you're all nuts.

  • 342. 0 0
    # 121 Nechama
    • Lynn
    • 19.03.07
    • 03:52

    And please add ALL the Pali income is foreign aid. If it wasn't they would be able to PAY their employees.

  • 341. 0 0
    # 117 Peter SM
    • Lynn
    • 19.03.07
    • 03:50

    Funny thing about that, they have Freedom when they get to the States. For some of the younger ones it's a pretty heady experience. But, one thing is for sure, after a few years they become so Westernized they are out of place in their mother countries. They stop fitting in to the norm in places like Saudi Arabia. The trips to the ME get further between and eventually they stop going back. The ones born here, much like immigrants from any other country, blend and become just what these idiots say they hate. Funny as hell what freedom can do to an individual.

  • 340. 0 0
    Labhras # 295
    • Philippe
    • 19.03.07
    • 03:36

    We all see how your fanatic opinions are based on ignorance. UN resolutions under the hardest chapter of UN charter were against Irak, still are against Iran, Syria and Sudan. All of them mortal ennemies of Israel.

  • 339. 0 0
    # 320 NY Jew. Response to apartheid state.BLESS YOUR HEART..
    • Kath'
    • 19.03.07
    • 03:34

    My brother NY Jew Thank you for the whole post.Not to mention the LAST WORD.ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shalom my brother,and AM YISRAEL CHAI!!!

  • 338. 0 0
    not so irish on india and russia
    • papalbull
    • 19.03.07
    • 03:30

    great nations.i am very partial to india in particular and russia is incredibly interesting.

  • 337. 0 0
    not so irish
    • papalbull
    • 19.03.07
    • 03:29

    "exporting more jews etc" the important point to make is that no matter how many jews leave intel still thinks it worthwhile to open plants in israel and not in ireland.

  • 336. 0 0
    i love jewish israel
    • johnboy
    • 19.03.07
    • 03:25

  • 335. 0 0
    not so irish am i i bovvered?
    • ian paisley
    • 19.03.07
    • 03:24

    am i bovvered?look at my face am i bovvered?

  • 334. 0 0
    johnboy is a nancyboy
    • hussein
    • 19.03.07
    • 03:21

    if you go to the palestinian territories they would take you up to the nearest minaret and throw you down.the fate of nancyboys in these lands.

  • 333. 0 0
    #310 Hey Ben Jabo
    • ballistic
    • 19.03.07
    • 03:18

    Very long resume, you are right, so given his statement that Israel is a model democracy means one of two things; he is either lying and pushing somebody's point of view or he is stupid, which I doubt. Notice he didn't say that in the US, but went to Poland. Another poster says he is a Polish Jew and, if so, what would you expect him to say? Despite what you say, the world community knows enough of what is going on in Pal land and why to still vote US and Israel the two most dangerous countries. Look at Bush, Yale, Harvard, but still Dubya, the idiot. If YOU believed his statement was true, you would not have had to type out that VERY LONG post to give credence to his outrageous statement. Regards.

  • 332. 0 0
    #314 Lynn, you can whine and moan
    • ballistic
    • 19.03.07
    • 03:14

    as long as you want. Until the Pals get justice, there will be problems. Here Israel is talking about they won't accept a unity gov't as another stalling tactic, so what did you expect If you think the Pals will go 60 more years before Israel has a serious Arab problem, you are mistaken. The US is gonna leave the ME. All this garbage about whether Israel has a right to exist is nonsense. She exists. Folks must believe she doesn't cause they keep saying the same inane thing over and over. The issue is HOW she will exist and that will be up to her with little or no US help. We are leaving Iraq. According to CNN, there were hundreds of thousands of war protestors out today, and only a few thousand yesterday because of bitter cold in the NE. Better try to get to peace instead of all these preconditions before saying a word or there will be more of what you complain about as people see their situation as entirely hopeless. Pals are people just like us and have dreams too.Regards

  • 331. 0 0
    #322 Yes EM, I do know why there are
    • ballistic
    • 19.03.07
    • 03:08

    checkpoints but if you want them they should only be in Israel proper. Have you figured out why you had to set up checkpoints? The reason is that folks came in, plopped down and started stealing land. Nobody gives up rights to their homes/lands without a fight. You should understand that because you would do the same thing. Despite what you and others may think, the entire world, incl the US, understands this can't go on for another 60 years. YOu are in an armed camp. Hopefully moderate Arabs and Jews can get together and solve this mess, but one way or another it will be solved. Those folks talking about land ownership thousands of years ago are ill; it won't happen; the argument doesn't make sense in today's world. Do you understand why the Pals are doing what they are doing after 60 years? If not, nothing I can say will help. I hope Israel wises up, and soon. Regards.

  • 330. 0 0
    #321 Kath; I don't mind talking to you
    • ballistic
    • 19.03.07
    • 03:03

    either. I don't mind reminding any of the posters straightaway that there are two sides to every story. Despite what Paul may think, I am hardly an idiot, having more formal education than 98% of americans (let's say I was raised in Pharoah's house). With respect to Maria, there are a lot of folks who believe the bible is history and god's word; no problem with freedom of belief and religion, but I wonder how she can overlook all despicable behavior stating Jews are "god's chosen", which you know is subject to interpretation. Pardon me for intruding and "jew baiting" as Paul Harris calls it, but folks need to get realistic in the real world. Sorry about your relative and I never hold grudges. I do think that your post to Rachel was not good; perhaps you had a bad day, but not all people agree all the time, be they americans, baptists or Jews. I am puzzled why no criticim, whether valid or not, is acceptable. Anyway, so be it. I only started blogging a few months ago. Regards.

  • 329. 0 0
    #312 Jason on defining a model state
    • Adi
    • 19.03.07
    • 02:59

    1) protects the citizens from harm, internally and externally [Jason]. Israel ranks amongst the top countries in lack of security. Jews live more safe in any other (true)democracy. 2) allows its citizens as many freedoms as they can manage (including the right for prosperity) [Jason]. Land theft and illegal construction is one of the freedoms; what about freedom to marriage in case of Israeli Arabs?! 3) protects and furthers the interests of its citizens on the world stage [Jason] If you define the US and Micronesia as world stage I'll agree.

  • 328. 0 0
    Kel # 24
    • Philippe
    • 19.03.07
    • 02:56

    RE:Explains a lot now doesn`t it?? Especially your stupidity. Every country that has an independant government is called a state. The definition of the word does not refer only to the states of the USA.

  • 327. 0 0
    a model state for arabs
    • bostonjew
    • 19.03.07
    • 02:52

    it is a model state - for arabs. it is only place in middle east they are not killed for dissenting from the official government opinion.

  • 326. 0 0
    # 276 Labhras. AGREED,BUT HOW MANY DECADES OR EVEN A CENTURY
    • Kath'
    • 19.03.07
    • 02:48

    Or so did it take before you have reached the present which is still in the ballance?and not totally resolved. Comparing the problems of Ireland North/South with the Israeli/Arab problems is beyond belief! Labhras for heaven's sake man!You were not surrounded by 22 Arab states aimed at your distruction! This is the nub of the matter,and continues to this day.You havent converted by any chance have you? Easy for people to advocate from afar and have not had to live with the constant conditions prevailing for so many decades.Ever since the inception of the re-birth of Israel! Tell me,have you visited Israel? What sort of books do you read I wonder.Methinks you have been somewhat brainwashed by some Islamofascists who want to invade all the Western countries and are nearly achieving it. 9/11,Bali,Madrid,London,Thailand,Philipines,and many more atrocities even now perpetrated throughout the world.Israel has to defend itself "daily" from these lot,think about it!

  • 325. 0 0
    Okay, may be he was subjected to torture?
    • nobodysacred
    • 19.03.07
    • 02:45

    which is another reasonable explanation for his sinful statement. (To ShanahS and others like you, don't focus on your local propagandist news. Read the hard facts and see the real numbers and pictures of the victims of israel, you may understand why it is the most hated country in the world.)

  • 324. 0 0
    DID YOU NOTICE? Craddock's statement not in mainstream media
    • nobodysacred
    • 19.03.07
    • 02:29

    because it's so insulting to anyone who knows the facts.

  • 323. 0 0
    Craddock says Israel is a "critical military partner"
    • Johnboy
    • 19.03.07
    • 02:24

    And, therefore, it is beyond reproach - a model for the rest of the world. Just like Iraq was a beacon of moderation in the Arab world when it was a "critical military partner" against Iran in the '80s. It's pretty simple, really. If the USA needs a state for strategic military reasons then that state is beyond reproach - 2nd only to the USA itself as a modern-day wonder among nations. Mind you, best not to believe the USA's self-serving crap because, of course, the USA *also* drops countries like a hot scone if they cease to be a "critical military partner". Just ask yourself what the USA started saying about Iraq once it decided it didn't need a strong-man in the region any more, and prefered to follow the "divide and conquer" strategy instead. Rooster one day, feather-duster the next, so don't go crowing too loudly over what this dimwit is saying.

  • 322. 0 0
    Re:ballistic.Even animals care about their life. But not suicide
    • e.m
    • 19.03.07
    • 02:23

    Did you hear the story of donkeys and Iranians Martyrs? During war between Iraq and Iran in 1983. Iranians army arrived in the explosions main borders .The army did not have enough time to call to engineers? mains cleaner. They come to a decision to bring some donkeys to do their work fact .But when few donkeys went trough of the mains the others donkeys realized what is going on and start to run away. In that situation the commander asked some volunteers from his unite. Many Iranians accepted and went trough of the explosions mains and became martyred My Question .Dose the Israeli solders has a right to act like that for benefit of his people. And do you know why there is check point?

  • 321. 0 0
    # 215 ballistic. I DON'T MIND TALKING WITH YOU ...
    • Kath'
    • 19.03.07
    • 02:16

    ballistic Tell you why.It is because you are straight unlike some who hide behind a masque.Fact is before I left,I had warned maria to watch her back.Whether she misunderstood me or knew who the person was I know not.It was a warning against a person who can be sweetnes and light but lead her astray. Maybe she thought I meant "you"? I would Hardly do that.I gave you my reason. Didn't intend sending you a post,but it was needed.Hope this comes out. I had to attend a "funeral"quite far from home.And it was of my old,dear,"but very young friend's"demise. Oddly enough,she was Armenian,that is why I decided to remind you now.Especially when I posted to that Cpt'with an Armenian sounding name?You see,you were wrong about your premise. In any case,he had a voice,but did not respond and disappeared from the forum. Subject someone called bev?seen her here,but no clue about her.My chiding whoever it was? What do you expect? Regards

  • 320. 0 0
    Response to apartheid state
    • NY Jew
    • 19.03.07
    • 02:10

    To all who say that Israel is an apartheid state: Tell me where in the arab world (e.g., world of over 1billion people) can Jews live without "jihad", "terrorism", etc. They cannot even enter places such as Dubai. They will not be served in most of the world..... In short, we have one SMALL country for our people to live in freedom. Let the arabs have the rest of the world..... just leave us alone right here. The arab's don't want equality - they want NO ISRAEL TO EXIST. They don't fly israeli flags (the country in which they live), they fly hamas or other flags. Until the arab's can live in peace, F__K em

  • 319. 0 0
    Israel - the only democracy in th ME
    • Jason
    • 19.03.07
    • 01:49

    Let's define a "model state." 1) protects the citizens from harm, internally and externally. 2) allows its citizens as many freedoms as they can manage (including the right for prosperity). 3) protects and furthers the interests of its citizens on the world stage. Where most Arab nations fail is number 2. The Arabs live in a state of tyranny and enjoy few freedoms. Ask yourself: Why don't more Arab Israelis move to Jordan or Egypt? Because life sucks there. Israel is the Rock Star of the region. Its people enjoy a european lifestyle, even with the huge expenditures for defense. And they are Free! Unfortunately, the Arab street is so deftly misinformed by their Kings. A good strategy for them and their dynasties.

  • 318. 0 0
    #282 Proud Palestinian
    • sel
    • 19.03.07
    • 01:49

    You sir, are CORRECT. All the world's problems are NOT caused by Arabs.. For example: The problems of whale hunting is not an Arab problem. It isn't even an Islamic problem.. Please!! Help me out!! Can anyone think of another problem that ISN'T caused by Arabs or Islamics? C'mon now.. put on your thinking capsSel

  • 317. 0 0
    RE: Marilyn
    • Craig F
    • 19.03.07
    • 01:43

    Here in Aussie, Marilyn Shepherd shrieks about her supposed devotion towards human rights. And yet, she is commited to denying that same concept towards the Jewish people. She even has the temerity to oppose Polish compensation to Jewish victims of the Holocaust. http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/author.asp?id=4255 Her hatred of everything Western and Jewish is self-destructive.

  • 316. 0 0
    Re:Arab neighbor.A littel news
    • e.m
    • 19.03.07
    • 01:43

    Elbit sees profit following war Israel's largest non-state defense company gains profit in fourth quarter of 2006 after performance of its guidance systems, other products in war in Lebanon boosted orders IEICI Published: 03.18.07, 20:07 / Israel Money Elbit Systems Ltd., Israel's biggest non-state defense company, had a profit in the fourth quarter after the performance of its guidance systems and other products in last year's war in Lebanon boosted orders. Net income was $24 million, or 57 cents a share, compared with a loss of $5.7million, or 14 cents, a year earlier, the Haifa-based company said Wednesday. Sales climbed 45 percent to $467 million. Profit beat the $17.8 million median estimate of five analysts surveyed by Bloomberg. "Following the war, the number of contracts from Israel and abroad increased," Chief Executive Officer Yossi Ackerman told reporters in Tel Aviv. The Israeli military's use of Elbit's command and control systems in the month-long war with Hizbullah highlighted their efficiency, Ackerman said. Operating income was 4.6 percent of revenue in the fourth quarter, reflecting weakness in the new Elisra Electronics Systems Ltd. unit, analyst Eran Jacoby at Leader & Co. said. Jacoby said the figure was disappointing because it was below the average of 6.3 percent for all of 2005. Investment in R&D Annual revenue has almost tripled on the surge in US military spending since September 11, 2001. Sales last year climbed to $1.5 billion from $1 billion, led by contracts to supply the US Army in Iraq, which accounted for about 40 percent of the total. Full-year profit more than doubled to $72.2 million. Last year's earnings reflect investment in research and development and "prestigious and important contracts," Ackerman said. The company will grow "organically" and through "selective acquisitions." Elbit is seeking to buy technologies it doesn't have or companies that give it access to new markets. Any acquisitions will probably be in the US, Europe or Israel, Ackerman said. "We expect 2007 to be better than 2006 in all parameters." The company's backlog of orders at the end of the year was $3.79 billion, up from $3.35 billion a year earlier. Sixty-eight percent of those orders are from overseas and 70 percent will be filled by the end of next year. Reprinted with permission of The Israel Export and International Cooperation Institute

  • 315. 0 0
    Clickfool
    • sel
    • 19.03.07
    • 01:41

    Clk..Look in the morror and see a FOOL..Clk You wite that your son was awarded "Citizen of the Year" in his chool. Is that the Arab school that teaches Palestinian children to hate? You sir, are indeed , a FOOL. Sel

  • 314. 0 0
    # 291 ballistic
    • Lynn
    • 19.03.07
    • 01:40

    While you are busy talking, homicide/suicide bombers are trying their best to blow up Israelis. Congratulations on being such an unbiased type of person. Good damned thing no one buys into your program. There would be a whole bunch more dead bodies lying around.

  • 313. 0 0
    Re:Labhras#276.I wishe your nieghbores were Arabs
    • e.m
    • 19.03.07
    • 01:40

    am an Irishman. Period. Now when you are conferring with the little people, perhaps you might enquire as to how many UN Resolutions Ireland,North or south is in non compliance with.And how many Geneva conventions we have broken. Perhape while you are at it you might ask how many houses we(illegally) knocked down lately other than to facilitate our booming economy.We have put all that terrible history behind and are moving on.I wish that Israel would learn the way of compromise. You too can be at peace. You Kath are out on a limb like all the others on here loking outwards or backwards to find justification for your brutal treatment of the Palestinian People.Look inwards, the solution is right under your noses. Your arguments are weak and without reasoned justification. Salient yourself. And what did you compromise? And where your country located? And who were your neighbors? And who were your enemies? And did your enemy believe in destruction of Ireland? And how many wars did your country have gone through? And despite of our problems with our enemies our economy also booming. Imaging if our neighbors were educated like yours

  • 312. 0 0
    # 291 ballistic
    • Lynn
    • 19.03.07
    • 01:40

    While you are busy talking, homicide/suicide bombers are trying their best to blow up Israelis. Congratulations on being such an unbiased type of person. Good damned thing no one buys into your program. There would be a whole bunch more dead bodies lying around.

  • 311. 0 0
    # 291 Ballistic
    • ChanahS
    • 19.03.07
    • 01:37

    WHere did I change the subject? What are you on about? Just becasue Israel's contributions to the world is not commensurate with your ideas of what it should be does not make them less worthy. Don't tell me that all countries do this, becasue that would be a blatant lie. Not one single filthy rich Arab country does zilch for the benefit of mankind. WHy on earth should Israeli soldiers risk their lives in Iraq? The IDF one and only purpose is to defend Israeli citizens. Not a single foreign soldier has or will ever fight for Israel, but I have no doubt that Israel helps in many other ways, and not only during war. On the other hand, there are numerous Jewish soldiers among the US troops in Iraq. Interesting that you flick the good things about Israel off like a fly, in other words take them for granted, while disparaging things that are not to your liking. Some balance is called for if you want your criticism to be taken seriously.

  • 310. 0 0
    Israel bashers wish they had General credentials
    • * BEN JABO
    • 19.03.07
    • 01:33

    Click, Maureen Ann, Marilyn & all the rest. Consume your selves with hatred, Gen. Craddock states the views of the U.S. Government. Your negativity equals bupkis. Gen. John Craddock U.S. Army Supreme Allied Commander Europe General John Craddock graduated from West Virginia University and was commissioned as an Armour Officer. A tour of duty with the 3rd Armoured Division in Germany was followed by a tour at Fort Knox Kentucky with the US Army Armour and Engineer Board. Completion of the Armour Officer Advanced Course saw his return to 3rd Armoured Division as a tank company commander. In 1981, Craddock was reassigned to the Office of the Programme Manager, Abrams Tank System first as a systems analyst, later as executive officer. Graduation from the Command and General Staff College preceded a return to Germany, this time with the 8th Infantry Division (Mechanised). In 1989, Craddock assumed command of the 4th Btn 64th Armour 24th Infantry Division (Mechanised) at Fort Stewart, Georgia. It was during this posting that he deployed to Operations Desert Shield and Desert Storm. After a period as Assistant Chief of Staff (Operations) for the 24th Division, General Craddock attended the U.S. Army War College, assuming command of the 194th Separate Armoured Brigade upon his graduation, before becoming Assistant Chief of Staff (Operations) for III Corps at Fort Hood, Texas. 1996 saw Craddock move to the Joint Staff at the Pentagon as Assistant Deputy Director (Plans and Policy), J5. Two years later he moved back to Germany as the Assistant Divisional Commander for Manoeuvre of 1st Infantry Division (Mechanised). It was during this time that he was designated Commander U.S. forces for the initial phase of operations in Kosovo. He went on to be the Commanding General of the 7th Army Training Command, U.S. Army Europe, then assumed command of 1st Infantry Division (Mechanised). A tour as the Senior Military Assistant to the Secretary of Defence preceded the post of Combatant Commander U.S. Southern Command. General Craddock led the U.S. Southern Command from 2004 until 2006. General Craddock holds a Masters degree in Military Arts and Sciences. General Craddock and his wife Linda have two children, Zachary and Amanda, daughter-in-law Rania, and two granddaughters, Addy and Lizzie.

  • 309. 0 0
    Israel and its supporters should be proud
    • Nathaniel
    • 19.03.07
    • 01:21

    Israel is a model society. A stable democracy in the midst of violent and corrupt dictatorships; a prosperous and creative society nestled among backward neighbors; and, a multi-cultural, multi-ethnic success story with racist Arab states all around. Those surrounding Israel find it easier to focus their hatred on Israel, than on their own behavior. General Craddock is right on target: Israel IS a model state. Stop letting the world deamonize Israel, the US, and the west. As an American & a Jew I am proud of the US, and proud of its support for democracy and freedom, the leftist apologists notwithstanding!

  • 308. 0 0
    Nobodysacred # 148
    • ChanahS
    • 19.03.07
    • 01:20

    The trouble with your post is that it's full of cliches and verbiage that are typical to the material that Israel bashers want their readers and followers to use. Yoiu demonstrate ignorance about anything from the subject of foreign aid (bet you've never checked the facts for yourself--just parroting-- nor information about who else gets aid)to the bullshit about "Zionist" conspiracies - bet you've even read the infamous Protocols. Your level of education does not reach the socks of Craddock, and whether one agrees with him or not, he is certainly an educated person. You have nothing to offer but insults, which says more about you than about either Craddock or Israel.

  • 307. 0 0
    #286 - papalbull
    • Not so Irish
    • 19.03.07
    • 01:13

    "bye bye united ireland.you have one ireland that lives on european handouts." -- Still better than US military handouts that leaves the poor Jews in the streets (or in the forest as I recently had to read in Haaretz on homeless people). "we export more then we import and have just sold a company to warren buffett.$4bn" -- That includes exporting more Jews than importing. When did you check the last time Israel's emigration statistics? "Software companies are world beaters." -- Yes, I love that too but sometimes it makes me feel I'm in India or Russia.

  • 306. 0 0
    Curious about this military general
    • Palestinian Prince
    • 19.03.07
    • 01:07

    Since when do those in the military spew their political views? Whatever happened to staying out of politics if you're in the military? This guy is a fool.

  • 305. 0 0
    to the innocents of ormagh labrah speaks
    • papalbull
    • 19.03.07
    • 00:56

    labrah i wonder if you can explain to the legions of dead and maimed in ulster how you have now apologised and are now looking ahead. do you also apologise for putting irish "terrorists" in inverted commas?do you think the butchery that took place in omagh can be soft peddled?

  • 304. 0 0
    labhras so we do not comply with un resolutions
    • papalbull
    • 19.03.07
    • 00:52

    but is that worse then your actions?placing bombs among civilians and killing and maiming women and children is just about the worst crime in the world. what is that in comparison to bloody un resolutions?

  • 303. 0 0
    #264 Chanah; dont change the subject
    • ballistic
    • 19.03.07
    • 00:50

    with irrelevant matters because all western nations do the same thing and Israel doesn't need kudos for that. What I am talking about is help on the battlefield; we lost another 7 or 8 soldiers yesterday and many maimed for life. If you are an ally, why not send troops instead of putting forth that BS that Paul Harris does that it would inflame the Muslim world, which is preposterous since you bombed Lebanon, daily roust the Pals (look at the soldier on todays edition of Haaretz with his mouth open yelling at Pals at a checkpoint; he looks like an animal) and zionists are talking about whacking Iran. If those factors, along with Israel's existence in their midst, has not already inflamed the Arab world, nothing will. This excuse about inflaming is just that, an excuse. BTW, congratulations on your humanitarian effort; I wished it extended to unarsing Pal land and letting them breathe free. Regards.

  • 302. 0 0
    Whodey #203
    • Dutchess
    • 19.03.07
    • 00:42

    According to a United Nations report, the number of Palestinians killed was at least 52,[7]. The Israel Defense Forces and Human Rights Watch also estimate the number at 52, although their designation of combatants differs (IDF counts 38 "armed men", HRW counts 30 "militants") (Wikipedia) so, by even the conservative figures, over 1/2 of the killed were militants that had previously been killing people themselves; The fact that their families (which, I presume, supported their 'activities') were killed must lay on the heads of the terrorists, not the Israelis.

  • 301. 0 0
    #277 - Clickfool
    • * BEN JABO
    • 19.03.07
    • 00:33

    Gauleiter? Hardly! Warden controlling murderer's and terrorist's is a more fitting description. Just keep in mind, he's not speaking all on his lonesome. As a military man, he's stating the position of the American Government. If he was acting contrary to U.S. policy he would have his head handed to him the same way Gen. Peter Pace was reprimanded. You how my permission to take a tranquilizer as you eat your Kishkas out.

  • 300. 0 0
  • 299. 0 0
    nobodysacred # 148
    • Philippe
    • 19.03.07
    • 00:16

    Your only conclusion is very telling of your state of mind and your hateful prejudices. You say that the polls of the european populations (the poll was in Europe not the world) fed by media that are sold out to a hateful propaganda, are more credible that the opinion of a man having access to incredibly more info than these media, and is reporting to the US Congress. It show how your logic is not based on facts.

  • 298. 0 0
    Harzion #100
    • Philippe
    • 19.03.07
    • 00:06

    RE:no more accomplished killers of civilians then the british. Not to mention their perversity as in the reported (last year )rape of iraki boys (14 yrs old) in southern Irak.

  • 297. 0 0
    labhras "grab bits of land"
    • papalbull
    • 19.03.07
    • 00:04

    bits of land are no problem.you tried to steal the whole of ulster and got nowhere.ian paisley gave you crappy power sharing and you had to beg for it.

  • 296. 0 0
    labhras "bye bye israel"
    • papalbull
    • 19.03.07
    • 00:02

    bye bye united ireland.you have one ireland that lives on european handouts. we export more then we import and have just sold a company to warren buffett.$4bn. our venture capital companies are doing great and will do even better.our software companies are world beaters.china and korea have set up offices in israel to see what we are doing.and you?no one needs potatos.the chinese grow their own.eat spuds or eat your heart out.

  • 295. 0 0
    #278 Moises
    • Labhras
    • 18.03.07
    • 23:59

    You must be another victim of Joan Peters and Deroshowitz and that group of Media hacks. By the way ask yourself the question ,??Why did the UN not pass resolutions condemning Israel,s enemies.Did anybody present one.No my firend your beloved Israel has the rather dubious record of being in non compliance with more UN Resolutions than any country. That is on the record. None so blind as those who will not see.

  • 294. 0 0
    Bert Stein # 131
    • Philippe
    • 18.03.07
    • 23:51

    The intellectual level of your post is only equaled by your lack of education. "La Cage aux folles" which means "the queers cage" is certainly never used to mean "birds of a feather flock together" which, in french would be said: "Qui s'assembe se ressemble"

  • 293. 0 0
    Marilyn
    • Lynn
    • 18.03.07
    • 23:50

    and your favorite candidate, Rudd, supports Israel. Like I said, nothing will change. Give Maureen Ann my regards too. LMAO!!!

  • 292. 0 0
    # 264 ChanahS
    • Lynn
    • 18.03.07
    • 23:47

    Actually, not really a world view, just a narrow minded view. Hard to hate someone if you read about their acts of kindness and their voluntary service to the world. How many Arab states have done as much for the children of the world? BTW, Doctors without Borders is a very good org., you've done a great job!

  • 291. 0 0
    Fritz #137
    • Philippe
    • 18.03.07
    • 23:45

    Yes Fritz, the supreme commander of NATO Europe, who has access to information we don not is further away from reality that you are. What are your sources of informations? The euro-media? On another site (jpost) you can read a report about France's hiddeen policy during the Lebanon war. This could be one example showing that the reality is different than the official whinnings coming from Europe. Probably this commander is better informed to make his judgement, but people like you, fed by a hateful propaganda cannot through the myth and of course will refuse to even question it.

  • 290. 0 0
    re #276 '#266 Kath'
    • Colin Wright
    • 18.03.07
    • 23:42

    Yeah. The whole Irish situation does furnish a number of instructive parallels to Israel. However, they are uniformly unflattering to Israel.

  • 289. 0 0
    Re:Labhras#276
    • e.m
    • 18.03.07
    • 23:40

    am an Irishman. Period. Now when you are conferring with the little people, perhaps you might enquire as to how many UN Resolutions Ireland,North or south is in non compliance with.And how many Geneva conventions we have broken. Perhape while you are at it you might ask how many houses we(illegally) knocked down lately other than to facilitate our booming economy.We have put all that terrible history behind and are moving on.I wish that Israel would learn the way of compromise. You too can be at peace. You Kath are out on a limb like all the others on here loking outwards or backwards to find justification for your brutal treatment of the Palestinian People.Look inwards, the solution is right under your noses. Your arguments are weak and without reasoned justification. Salient yourself. And what did you compromise? And where your country located? And who were your neighbors? And who were your enemies? And did your enemy believe in destruction of Irland? And how many wars did your country have gone through? And despite of our problems with our enemies our economy also booming. Imaging if our neighbors were educated like yours

  • 288. 0 0
    re #275 'the USA is the most helpful country in the world.'
    • Colin Wright
    • 18.03.07
    • 23:37

    "The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob has blessed her in supporting israel.God will bless those that bless Israel and curse those that curse Israel." THAT'S why my car won't start. Have to let my mechanic know...

  • 287. 0 0
    Even Israel deserves better
    • Galit
    • 18.03.07
    • 23:37

    The model state is a weak democracy, controlled by corrupt politicians, with a rapist at its top, and a continued sense for great injustices. No one deserves such a model state - not even Israel!

  • 286. 0 0
    To Steve # 39
    • christa
    • 18.03.07
    • 23:37

    Which West are you talking about ? That is not quite what the West thinks of Israel. Make a poll in Europe, ask them "is Israel a model state ?", and count the replies.The majority will certainly not agree with Genl Craddock...

  • 285. 0 0
    #142 Yacov--Your, Jews', Israel's OBSESSION WITH "ARABS".
    • Proud Pal Defender
    • 18.03.07
    • 23:34

    Almost Every Time You Say Something To Jews/ Israel About Themselves-- You usually get the following responses/reactions: 1. You're an anti-Semite. 2. You get some kind of focus/attempt to refocus people onto "Arabs": "The Arabs" aren't doing it." "Well, at least we are doing more than 'the Arabs'...are better than...'the Arabs'". 3. The Holocaust. 4. Jew's/Israel's "contributions". Grow Up! ...This isn't Kindergarten. If "the Arabs" (or anyone else), jump into the lake...you're going to jump too? Because "everyone else is doing it"...you have to/get to do it too? First-- Comparing yourself(ves) to others, DOES NOT NEGATE/VOID the fact...that YOU/JEWS/ISRAEL are Accountable/RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR ACTIONS! DOESN'T MEAN, that you don't have to BE/DO THE BEST you can...Do WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO! And it NEVER will! Second-- Don't expect us to have the same obsession/approach/bigotry you have about Arabs. World Problems AREN'T LIMITED to Arabs!

  • 284. 0 0
    To Moises
    • christa
    • 18.03.07
    • 23:30

    Then what are you doing in Panama ? You should be in the model state of Israel.

  • 283. 0 0
    Irrelevant, but...
    • Colin Wright
    • 18.03.07
    • 23:30

    Craddock, Craddock... Knew it rang a bell. Run a search for the last prominent military man named 'Craddock.' Admiral Craddock, whose squadron had the dubious distinction of being sunk at Coronel by German cruisers in 1914. I thought maybe it was that Victorian Admiral who managed to ram two battleships into each other on maneuvers. Knew it was somebody along those lines.

  • 282. 0 0
    Click, Doris-Dutch
    • Realistic
    • 18.03.07
    • 23:23

    Haven't you heard? An eight year old Pal girl was murdered when Arabs shot each other. Why so quiet? Don't you care? Is her life worthless because she was killed by Arabs?

  • 281. 0 0
    Labhras #276 - No, it's the other way around
    • Moises
    • 18.03.07
    • 23:22

    Don't make me laugh. The whole problem of the Arab-Israeli conflict is BECAUSE Israel's 5 Arab neighbors have not complied with the UN resolution creating Israel. The openly tried to commit genocide against Israel 3 times (48, 67, 73), the first being on its FIRST DAY of existance. Yet the UN never condemned their actions. They only charged the surviving Israel with repatriating the refugees created by the war. The same was done after each of the other wars in 67, and 73 - Israel was charged with making things right, even though they had survived genocide attempts. Israel tried to bribe JOrdan and Egypt to take back the WB and Gaza respectively but they would not. Yet Israel has to clean up every problem created by failed attempts of genocide against it? Why didn't Arafat give a counter-offer for Oslo and Taaba? On the other hand, we Jews have been in far, far worse situations than the Pals. for hundreds and hundreds of years, yet we never used terrorism nor killed innocents.

  • 280. 0 0
    Larry, excelent post.
    • Moises
    • 18.03.07
    • 23:08

    The truth is that the war against Israel in the West is not currently a military one, but an intellectual one. That is why "history books" and media are currently the most succesfull weapons - the basis of Israel's existance has been successfully undermined by rewriting history. That is why Israel used to have a positive image, but now has a very negative one. The same goes for the Palestinians - they don't expect to win militarily against Israel (unless they are completely delusional). They just want Israel to kill Palestinians so that the world will force concessions from it. There has never been a case like this in history, but neither has there been a people that returned to its land after 2000 years. May Hashem bless you and all Israel.

  • 279. 0 0
    #228 Lavi
    • Labhras
    • 18.03.07
    • 23:05

    All that from the comfort of your home in Seattle.Did the good ole USof A ask you to change you religion to enable you to be an American Citizen unlike your beloved ,Israel. We are well aware of the "LAND WITHOUT PEOPLE FOR A PEOPLE WITHOUT LAND" myths as are you, and the old wives tales about turning the desert into etc etc. You would do better to take a critical look at Israel and ask yourself why most of the rest of the world is not in your corner.Or is that just good old Anti semitism again.

  • 278. 0 0
    re #257 '#235 Colin's WRONG again.'
    • Colin Wright
    • 18.03.07
    • 23:04

    I think you missed my point. Israel is not in fact in either Europe or in Africa. It's a country in Western Asia. Morevoer, if you look at the people -- both in terms of their appearance and in terms of their behavior -- they are far more a part of the Levant than of the West. Nevertheless, the place often gets mentally moved to Europe -- but usually not with the simple forthrightness that the good general displayed.

  • 277. 0 0
    For Ben Jabo # 259
    • Clickfool
    • 18.03.07
    • 22:55

    "Clickfool - you only wish that you could have attained the stature of Craddock instead of your status of a hate monger, seeing Mossad in every nook and cranny." General John Craddock will go down in history (as a minor footnote) as the Gauleiter of Guantanamo. I can PROMISE you, Ben, that I have NO regrets that I have no achieved this man's "stature".

  • 276. 0 0
    #266 Kath
    • Labhras
    • 18.03.07
    • 22:51

    I am an Irishman. Period. Now when you are conferring with the little people, perhaps you might enquire as to how many UN Resolutions Ireland,North or south is in non compliance with.And how many Geneva conventions we have broken. Perhape while you are at it you might ask how many houses we(illegally) knocked down lately other than to facilitate our booming economy.We have put all that terrible history behind and are moving on.I wish that Israel would learn the way of compromise. You too can be at peace. You Kath are out on a limb like all the others on here loking outwards or backwards to find justification for your brutal treatment of the Palestinian People.Look inwards, the solution is right under your noses. Your arguments are weak and without reasoned justification. Slainte yourself.

  • 275. 0 0
    the usa is the most helpful country in the world.
    • maria
    • 18.03.07
    • 22:47

    The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob has blessed her in supporting israel.God will bless those that bless Israel and curse those that curse Israel.

  • 274. 0 0
    What a Great Model!
    • John
    • 18.03.07
    • 22:44

    Israel is a country that's incapable of forming any kind of friendly relations with its neighbours. Indeed a wonderful role model for the rest of the US and the rest of the world!!! Let's all behave like Israel and then Bush and his appointees will have their Armageddon tomorrow!

  • 273. 0 0
    Tunisian - Here's an interesting question for you
    • Moises
    • 18.03.07
    • 22:43

    Why are there 1.5 million Arabs in Israel proper, but not more than 10 Jews in Tunisia? Your comments stem from ignorance of history rather than knowledge. My own Jewish community here in Panama (mostly from Syria) is the EXACT OPPOSITE of what you Arabs have done as refugees. We came with absolutely nothing, running from your 'enlightened' societies, and now we live very well. Ask yourself why you NEED to hate Israel; why you feel so threatened by it. Or why the UN did not condemn the 3 outright attempts of its neighboring countries to commit genocide against it (48, 67, 73). Oh, wait, but they probably don't teach you about that! Ah, ignorance.

  • 272. 0 0
    the pro-palestinians in this talkback....
    • maria
    • 18.03.07
    • 22:42

    are not happy with this article....don't you worry,in a few days you'll hear your side....HEADLINE----- the arab countries are model countries or the muslims are doing well in terrorizing the world.

  • 271. 0 0
    Islam comes no further than Israel
    • Johnny
    • 18.03.07
    • 22:28

    Islam is being stopped by Israel. Israel is such an important country for the free world. All you hate blinded muslims will continue to sit on your cafe's all days becoming old and even more angry, still you will achieve nothing more. You will for all eternity continue to live the life you live today until you give up your sad system of belief. Enjoy!

  • 270. 0 0
    # 220 Ballistic
    • ChanahS
    • 18.03.07
    • 22:28

    I was referring to your # 177 - when you insiuated in the title that now that you know he MAY BE Jewish "we know the deal" - I was being sarcastic. About a Talmudic state, I have no idea what it is. Better ask KA - Khaled about that one, it's his favorite subject.

  • 269. 0 0
    An Arab Neighbor #129 - I am of Syrian parents
    • Moises
    • 18.03.07
    • 22:27

    The reason you Arabs see things like you do is because it is anathema in your society to think freely when it comes to Israel / Jews. Even if you are the most free-thinking of people, you can only deviate a certain amount from the average without really challenging society. Only when you put yourself in the shoes of Israelis, and Jews in general, will you understand that Israel is a heroic country and the Jews a heroic people - to return to our land after 2000 years. Nobody has ever done that. Do you think that people from so many countries, speaking so many different tongues would go to a war-torn backwater just because of propaganda? We Jews recognize the Palestinians despite all the insanity. It's time your society reciprocates.

  • 268. 0 0
    # 214 Labhras/Laurence TELL ME LABHRAS...
    • Kath'
    • 18.03.07
    • 22:25

    Labhras Could you please tell me if you are an Republican Irish or an Ulster man? It is a very important question,because it touches on subject concerning "governance" And because am not only curious,but also find it somewhat relevant to subject(but not being on a par to Israel) By this I mean,you should look into your backyard first,before subjecting us here with a load of "horse manure"put out,and wondered if you have forgotten your own history, which has yet to be implemented,be it in Ulster or in the good old Irish Republic. If you don't clarify it I will have to consult "the little people".They may have the answer to my query. Slainte!!

  • 267. 0 0
    Detlev # 205 caught in the act
    • ChanahS
    • 18.03.07
    • 22:22

    Beside Baruch Goldstein - what do all the others have to do with Israel, you idiot! Klebold and Jack the Ripper? LOL Bob Dylon, Barbara Streisand, Paul Simon, Art Garfunkel, Modegliani, Arthur Rubenstein .... are Jews, and ... the list is long.

  • 266. 0 0
    What is a Model State???
    • Larry
    • 18.03.07
    • 22:11

    Israel may not be a model state to others that do not share its ideals. Unfortunately the core of its daily activities are self defense and its survival. I ask the open question. If the Palestinians claim that returning the West Bank to them will result in peace, then what was the justification for the Arab world to attack Israel in 1948?? What was the justification for the Arab world to mass troops and attack in 1967 which resulted in Israel's capture of the West Bank?? If the Palestinians deserve their land back then so does every single Jew that was displaced by the Nazi's as well as their descendants. After all that is what the 2002 Saudi Arabian proposal is all about return of land and allowing Palestinians ther right of return to Israel. The rule must be applied to all those that have been evicted by wars, as well as those that should be compensated in later generations. Until that is done, the Palestinians can wait in line and take what Israel is willing to give them.

  • 265. 0 0
    magdy #20 - You put honor before life
    • Moises
    • 18.03.07
    • 22:09

    Can you say what you feel like saying in Gaza without risking your life? Can you go and publicly criticize those who launch Qassams? I know you hate Israel, but this should not keep you from learning from them. This is the success of the Jewish people - that we debate everything freely. Start with yourself.

  • 264. 0 0
    # 186 Ballisitc
    • ChanahS
    • 18.03.07
    • 22:09

    Israel is so gimme gimme that three Iraqi children are currently receiving treatment for heart disease in Israeli hospitals, and their parents are being hosted on the house. Israel is so gimme that it is always the first to sed rescue crews to sites of natural catastophes worldwide (where they're allowed in of course). So gime gime thateach year Israeli doctors spend some months in African countries conducting eye operations so that African children who would otherwise remain blind can see. These are just a few examples. But then these kinds of acts mean nothing to you because they are acts of kindness and humanity rather than meanness and spite. I've sent you such information before ad notice you never have anything to say about them, like water off a ducks back - just doesn't sync with your worldview.

  • 263. 0 0
    #247 Colin: Armchair Airhead Or Misunderstood Militant?
    • Lavi
    • 18.03.07
    • 22:07

    Answer my challenge about the level of research you've done on Israel and the Jewish people before you unleash your daily torrent on them! Have you ever set foot in Israel to study the situation first hand? Have you ever spent any quality time with Jewish families in your area? Do you know anything about the Jewish religion and its historic connections and contributions to Jerusalem? I'm writing to you in your native tongue so you should understand me clearly and if you "missed" anything, it would be doing the proper research on this topic before revealing your blatant bias.

  • 262. 0 0
    #26 Marilyn - really unhappy
    • * BEN JABO
    • 18.03.07
    • 22:05

    Read all about you, totally unhappy with everything. You really should contact your public assistance office and make certain that they mail the check to the proper address. Years ago, we had a dog that had gotten on in years, we did the merciful thing. Suggest you see your local vet and have him do the same.

  • 261. 0 0
    An Arab Neeighbor:Only 4% aid.Compar us with western countries
    • e.m
    • 18.03.07
    • 22:04

    Israel is model state to any democrat?s countries. It is your jealousy which made you blind By the way your regime in Syria is minority Alawyt imaging a day the majority of Sonny will take over.dream for a day Sryia will be better

  • 260. 0 0
    USA - The ONE power in the world ready to stand for ideals
    • Moises
    • 18.03.07
    • 22:04

    The USA has made many mistakes. I myself lived through the invasion of Panama when I was 6 years old (it was total chaos). But compared to any superpower which has existed in history, it is by far the most benign. Those who criticize and invent conspiracy theories are only jealous OR BORED of the current world order. Its funny to see all the Europeans here criticizing the USA for supporting Israel, when it is Israel paying for all the problems of colonialism that THEY created.

  • 259. 0 0
    #18 Clickfool - You only wish
    • * BEN JABO
    • 18.03.07
    • 22:02

    that you could have attained the stature of Craddock instead of your status of a hate monger, seeing Mossad in every nook and cranny.

  • 258. 0 0
    It is your world we just live in it.
    • Billy Jack
    • 18.03.07
    • 22:00

    And craddock is letting you know that christian america will help you with setting the stage for Christ to return.Remember the brittish army won the right,in its slaughter of 12 million native americans to make america a christian nation.And hell or high water they will not let those filthy Arabs dampen their stairway to hevon.Even if they gotta kill every last one of them,palestinians included to prove that the bible is the oficial word of the creater.

  • 257. 0 0
    #235 Colin's WRONG again
    • * BEN JABO
    • 18.03.07
    • 21:59

    EUCOM isn't under any immediate threat of attack, Israel is. The Soviet Union self-destructed years ago. You really ought to look at how much money EGYPT and the other Arab countries receive in aid, it more than equals Israel.

  • 256. 0 0
    re #243 'YES, "Israel could be a MODEL STATE"
    • Colin Wright
    • 18.03.07
    • 21:58

    Maybe all you outline could happen or maybe it couldn't. However, one prerequisite is that the supporters of Israel would have to WANT to have it happen. Increasingly, such a prerequisite is absent. More and more, Israel is becoming the ideological property of the closet racists, a tool for acting out the violent fantasies of the otherwise repressed, the captive of a coterie of self-appointed 'supporters' who are cheering her on as she charges over the edge of the precipice. Maybe there was once an Israel that was morally defensible. I'm inclined to doubt it -- but that's academic. It's certainly not there now.

  • 255. 0 0
    # 244 Toss. re: American Military aid.
    • Kath'
    • 18.03.07
    • 21:57

    Toss Absolutely spot on.We have said this on numerous times to the ignorants,or the ones who do not,will not,acknowledge this truth. The AID IS RECIPROCAL AND IT IS SPENT IN THE U.S................................ No point in repeating the obvious for which you have amplified it so succinctly. It has always been the case,which is a "quid- pro-quo" exercise. Good on you friend

  • 254. 0 0
    #240 Dwayne, an old saing is
    • TOMY
    • 18.03.07
    • 21:52

    Who is laghing, is laghing last. A real clown.

  • 253. 0 0
    # 11 Brant - in a nutshell
    • ChanahS
    • 18.03.07
    • 21:49

    Great post

  • 252. 0 0
    As an often visitor to Israel, I can tell you ,
    • TOMY
    • 18.03.07
    • 21:49

    Israel is the most beautifil, vibrant,inovative, artistic country I ever visited, and I visited many. People are educated, musical,brainy,goodharted. All you, antisemites,TAKE A HIKE,and live with your unjustified anger, it will not take you anywere.

  • 251. 0 0
    WHODEY #204
    • GABE1
    • 18.03.07
    • 21:48

    I prefer discussing your Anti semitism and not debunked theories and Falsehoods which are in fact "Blood Libels. Jenin as you describe it never happened but I wish that the IDF would have levelled that SHIT HOLE it should have done that in HEVRON as well in 1967 WHITE FLAGS OR NOT. THE only Arab Heroes hide behind children and a skirt.The "Prophet Of Terror" beckons on that SS SITE. "What happened is that Judaism did not "spawn" Christianity and Islam. When the Jews could not get their act together of being "a light onto the nations", God charged Jesus and later Mohammad with spreading the message. Because God's message was for all mankind, not only an exclusive club of a small minority of "chosen people".WHODEY "Israel and Zionism is seen as expansionist, not Judaism. Judaism is a religious movement and spiritual in nature, Israel is a political entity and Zionism a political movement and materialistic in nature (object: acquisition of territory).WHODEY

  • 250. 0 0
    # 110 American
    • ChanahS
    • 18.03.07
    • 21:48

    Nothing but resect for hard-working and successful Jews more likely, unlike envy for the same from the likes of you.

  • 249. 0 0
    Marilyn # 108
    • ChanahS
    • 18.03.07
    • 21:46

    "Gee, we even have indigenous doctors and professors." And I suppose some of your best friends are Jews, right?

  • 248. 0 0
    An Arab Neighbor # 178 Thank You For Your Reply
    • Jeff Northridge
    • 18.03.07
    • 21:33

    Howdy An Arab Neighbor; Thank you for your reasonable reply on the Shebaa Farms. I guess it's just as complicated as East Jerusalem is. I wonder how long it's going to take to figure out who owns what in the Middle East. It can't go on forever can it? Or can it?

  • 247. 0 0
    # 233 TOMY. re:Marilyn. SHE DROOLS AS SHE SPEAKS...
    • Kath'
    • 18.03.07
    • 21:32

    TOMY I just sow her picture,and it made me laugh because on one occasion Clickfool said to someone that he sow her picture,and she is a "babe" with looks to "die for".What a laugh it turned out to be!She has been at it since the Vietnam war.Just like the American Jane,without her looks. We'll let her stew and drool.We belong to a VERY GOOD,HONORABLE DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY TO BE PROUD OF...

  • 246. 0 0
    re #239 '#221 Colin'
    • Colin Wright
    • 18.03.07
    • 21:26

    'Prove to us you`re not just some armchair airhead that hasn`t left his hometown in CA to visit the world and actually learn something before he commits his lack of intelligence on this subject to callous critiquing! You admitted previously to also arguing incessantly with your wife who expresses a biblical faith in these matters about Israel. As you both most likely have never visited the areas you comment strongly on, her belief is one of simple faith in the most high G-d, whereas yours is a complex contortion of racism, prejudice, and slander; exactly what my earlier post about Arab reaction was about!' That's an amazing post. It certainly contains lots of invective, and it's fairly insulting -- but there doesn't seem to be any actual point. Did I miss something? Should I send you a xerox of my old passport? What is there to respond to?

  • 245. 0 0
    A model state for apartheid
    • Mandela
    • 18.03.07
    • 21:23

    Two states coming close to the Israel model are former South Africa and East Germany - the later also called itself democratic and built an iron wall (but at least on in its own soil). Israel is not a state for all its citizens and I don't think that that should serve as a model for Western democracies.

  • 244. 0 0
    SAMI first you quote Carter,then he is wrong when he does not say
    • PETER SM
    • 18.03.07
    • 21:17

    what you claim he said. What else fits into your category of manufactured facts

  • 243. 0 0
    American MILITARY aid
    • Toss
    • 18.03.07
    • 21:10

    It would behoove everyone to remember that the 2+ billion dollars in aid Israel gets from America is MILITARY AID that can for the most part only be used on AMERICAN MILITARY HARDWARE. Therefore this money serves the dual purpose of supplying Israel, Americas ally in the middle east, and at the same time subsidizing the American military industry.

  • 242. 0 0
    YES, "Israel could be a MODEL STATE"
    • Solomon
    • 18.03.07
    • 21:00

    IF, Israel end its occupations of the West Bank, Gaza, the Golan, and the Shebba Farms and getting all our settlers back in our lands, and negociate justly for those who express their desire to stay behind in PALESTINE and become Jewish Palestinians,and agreed to hand over settlements(Negociating a fair compensation for both SETTLERS/PALS.REFUGEES).And Allowing a token of 300.000 refugees (as Agreed ? by Ex PM Barak in the Camp David Discussion)to return back to their Homes, if they can still prove ownership for them; and as for our settlers providing them with equal value housing in Israel proper. Israel to Negociate faithfully on EAST JERUSALEM. Green (armistice) Line, our Borders as existed before the conquest of the arab lands in the 1967 preventive war. and finally an Honest settlement on all important resources for the benefits of all the people of the region. When we've done all these ,Israel would be a MODEL STATE," where there is a will there is a awy"

  • 241. 0 0
    Enough is enough.
    • Jamail Abu Nasser
    • 18.03.07
    • 20:59

    I want to be Jew. We are guilty by misunderstanding Allah will. Allah Akbar. And he loves Jews.

  • 240. 0 0
    something weird is happening these days!
    • patrick
    • 18.03.07
    • 20:59

    looks like something weird is happening these days! look how bush praised 'rummy' and now this guy praising 'israel' for being a model state! somethingz is seriously wrong with these people.

  • 239. 0 0
    a joke by the supreme commander of NATO
    • Dwayne
    • 18.03.07
    • 20:51

    John Craddock(the supreme commander)must be joking. i was laughing my ass off :-)

  • 238. 0 0
    #221 Colin: You Betray Your Abysmal Ignorance Of Israel!
    • Lavi
    • 18.03.07
    • 20:50

    Prove to us you're not just some armchair airhead that hasn't left his hometown in CA to visit the world and actually learn something before he commits his lack of intelligence on this subject to callous critiquing! You admitted previously to also arguing incessantly with your wife who expresses a biblical faith in these matters about Israel. As you both most likely have never visited the areas you comment strongly on, her belief is one of simple faith in the most high G-d, whereas yours is a complex contortion of racism, prejudice, and slander; exactly what my earlier post about Arab reaction was about!

  • 237. 0 0
    to Tunisian
    • the pope
    • 18.03.07
    • 20:48

    Interesting note, where are you getting all this info about Israel. Did you visit here? Anyhow, it does not matter. I and most of the people in Israel are very happy for you, for your life stile and i wish you to enjoy it! Just one thing i cannot understand why are you writing here? Why having a good life in Dubai you wish deaf to people you never ever have seeing? Live and let others to live, mate, good luck to you!

  • 236. 0 0
    # 212 ravi. From the Punjab. SHAME ON YOU...
    • Kath'
    • 18.03.07
    • 20:42

    Ravi I said shame on you because you live in India and presumably there are some skeletons in your cupboard Mmmm? Like who killed Indira Ghandi? Whether it is a "mutual admiration" matters not.Because Israel is a very useful and good friend of the U.S.A. And jealousy from our detractors will get them nowhere.This unique friendship is an inherently sound one,and may it flourish always. Best of luck to you in the Punjab,and I wish the whole of India the very best....

  • 235. 0 0
    Last year, they intervued Palis,
    • TOMY
    • 18.03.07
    • 20:40

    What kind of democracy they would like to have?? Guess what?? Not Sweedish,Not American, Not Franch, THEY WOULD LIKE THE ISRAELI KIND!!! The general is right. Antisemites out there ,take a hike.

  • 234. 0 0
    An interesting revelation
    • Colin Wright
    • 18.03.07
    • 20:38

    "Craddock said Israel will receive this year more than 93 percent of the military aid in the EUCOM area - $2.4 billion out of some $2.54 billion for all of Europe and Africa. " How can that be? Israel couldn't have any portion of the funds allocated to Europe and Africa -- it isn't in either one. If the money was in fact given to Israel, then it wasn't given to Europe/Africa. Only 0.13 billion was (a mere $130,000,000.00). It's a curious slip. That we perceive Israel as in 'Europe' is telling. It's not of course -- but both we and they prefer to think otherwise.

  • 233. 0 0
    General craddock or custer?
    • Billy Jack
    • 18.03.07
    • 20:35

    They sound the same to me.

  • 232. 0 0
    #5 Marilyn is drooling, are you crazy???
    • TOMY
    • 18.03.07
    • 20:35

    The general talks sense, and you loosing your mind over it. Your constant vomit of lies will not change the fact, that ISRAEL IS THE MODEL TO THE WORLD!!! THE LIGHT TO THE NATIONS!!!! Proud to be a JEW.

  • 231. 0 0
    Has Gen Craddock ever set foot in Israel?
    • Hamza
    • 18.03.07
    • 20:34

    If he has then he is WRONG to make such a statement, after he had honestly observed conditions around him, and on the other hand .. If he has NOT then he is DOUBLY WRONG to make such a statement, as he "has seen nothing yet". To me this gentleman is totally wrong.

  • 230. 0 0
    #3 Undeniable lie, You do not know, what
    • TOMY
    • 18.03.07
    • 20:29

    to say, you can not tolarate the fact, that Israel IS A MODEL STATE, THE LIGHT TO THE NATIONS. And this is the UNDENIABLE TRUTH.

  • 229. 0 0
    # 131 Nechama. re: Alan IN -N.Y BRAVO INDEED. AND..
    • Kath'
    • 18.03.07
    • 20:25

    KUDOS TO SUPREME U.S COMMANDER JOHN CRADDOCK! FOR SETTING ASIDE THE POLITICALY CORRECT STANCE FOR ONCE AND TELLING IT LIKE IT IS. PURE AND UNADULTERATED TRUTH. To the rest of the grumblers,go and fly a kite! Israel is a model by which the rest of the Arab countries can emulate.A liberal and democratic country and a "Good Model"for them to begin and make a start soon and put their homes in order. Way passed their time to do so,jealousy of Israel will not bring them forward to the 21st century by continuing with their absurd --- dictatorships and Islamofascistic behaviour...

  • 228. 0 0
    #196 LABHRAS - BYE BYE ISRAEL?
    • Just Curious
    • 18.03.07
    • 20:23

    I surely hope not. I don't want to say "Bye-Bye" to anyone but right-wing Neocons. Want vs Need? What we NEED to do is get rid of "supremacy" and "superior strength" as a winning policy. What I WANT is for the land to be divided, citizens and governments to start talking to one another and get on with living to the best of our ability. Israel and Palestine could each be a model state if they could pull that off!

  • 227. 0 0
    #207 Labhras: Israel Could Have Accomplished All ...
    • Lavi
    • 18.03.07
    • 20:22

    ... I said back in post #201 and more from even within the small confines of what the UN partitioned for her way back in '48 if the Arabs had only accepted her in peace. But the war unleashed immediately against the fledgling Jewish State was to be on the order of the Crusades the Arabs trumpeted, and with comparable slaughter! Fortunately their dreams of devastation and exploitation did not occur as planned. The territory they lost in subsequent battles with the IDF served as both strategic depth for Israel's survival and also as valuable exchanges for peace treaties. (I hope you realize how small this area really is when trying to defend it!). You probably have never been to visit these areas of conflict but I tell you that retired, peaceful Jewish grandmothers from Hadassah could have long ago transformed Gaza into a beautiful Palestinian resort whereas all the foolish PA leaders to date who resist true peace cannot cumulatively lay even one foundation stone.

  • 226. 0 0
    General Cradock should come to the West Bank......
    • Husseini
    • 18.03.07
    • 20:19

    and see for himself about the miseries that are continuously inflicted on the Palestinians, come and observe the daily HUMILIATIONS inflicted on the poor occupied citizens at check points, come and ADMIRE the APARTHEID 2 6 FEET HIGH WALLS that are enclosing Palestinians villages/ schools, dividing one's orchard, confiscating lands for illegal settlements and settlers Private/Apartheid roads, forming new ghettoes/enclaves/Stalags.What a model, and logic?

  • 225. 0 0
    WHAT A ROGUE !!!
    • Dutch
    • 18.03.07
    • 20:15

    What a rogue! He obviously haven't been to the Palestinian territories or spoken to the Palestinian people there. Dutch

  • 224. 0 0
    #210 Hey Kath; read Yosarian's post
    • ballistic
    • 18.03.07
    • 20:08

    I dare say you must be getting ready to beat this gentleman up, being in Israel and its armed services. However, the plain wording of his post CLEARLY indicates he does NOT agree with the statement made by Craddock. So, are you gonna give him the same treatment you gave Rachel of Israel when she disagreed with zionist policies with you going so far as to tell her she was a "disgrace" to the name of Rachel and should change it "little girl" because she pointed out too many Pals were killed. Well, okay, let's hear it all over again. What is the matter with you? Isn't dissent allowed? You are always trying to smooth over posters so as not to disgree "in public". Short sighted to say the least as it will bubble to the surface sooner rather than later.

  • 223. 0 0
    surely this is a comedy routine
    • margaret
    • 18.03.07
    • 20:04

    A model state for what? Racism? Apartheid? A model of how to subjugate and exterminate another people? Is Israel America's model for how to occupy and destroy Iraq? I'm rolling in the floor laughing over this one.

  • 222. 0 0
    #210 Uh oh Kath, you have picked
    • ballistic
    • 18.03.07
    • 20:02

    up Paul Harris' terrible habit of shouting in all caps, problems with your keyboard?

  • 221. 0 0
    re #191 'Craddock has it right!'
    • Colin Wright
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:59

    'Muslim nations should seriously model themselves after Israel`s democracy, human rights, and personal freedoms.' Mm. So first they should violently throw themselves off their own land. Then they should work out devices that will prevent themselves from ever being allowed to live on most of it. Finally, they should import an army of racist killers to continually raze their houses, indiscriminantly shoot down their women and children, prevent all economic activity, and abuse and humiliate them at every turn. For some reason, they just don't seem to be leaping at the opportunity.

  • 220. 0 0
    re #201 'Israel isn't perfect, but...'
    • Colin Wright
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:52

    '...The Israeli zest and love for life, family, academia, and religious values...' Mm. Perhaps you should have picked your examples a bit more carefully. 'academia' calls to mind l'affair Toaff. Not the greatest display of respect for academic values that I've ever seen. 'Love of life.' 'Confirming the kill'? Where else in the world are juvenile stone-throwers casually shot down like dogs? 'religious values.' The Kahanists et al suggest that perhaps you've picked the less savory of these. 'love of family.' Ah. THAT explains those continual incest stories.

  • 219. 0 0
    #197 Okay,okay Chanah; I am almost
    • ballistic
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:51

    afraid to ask what conspiracy you are talking about cause I know I will need to duck lest I be covered in the usual stuff you sling. So, what is this conspiracy? And what is a Talmudic state versus any other kind of state; I asked you on another blog, but it was quite late and that thread ended.

  • 218. 0 0
    For Maureen Ann # 112 on Guantanamo John
    • Clickfool
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:49

    You're aboslutely right, Maureen Ann. General John Craddock's Southern Command remit at Miami covered the illegal US prison at Guantanamo Bay. None of the official biographies you can find on Google mention this inconvenient fact. When he discussed the suicides of inmates at Gitmo, Craddock famously testified: "They're determined, intelligent, committed and they continue to do everything they can to become martyrs in the jihad". The Washington Post reported (in 2005) that Abu Ghraib torture techniques were first tried at Gitmo (during Craddock's watch). Who could therefore be the smallest bit surprised that General John Craddock likes Israel and calls it a "model state"? Should we expect anything different from a man like this?

  • 217. 0 0
    # 184 An Arab Neighbour. re: David Teich. YOU IGNORED..
    • Kath'
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:48

    IGNORED HIS MENTION OF THE ARAB COUNTRIES THAT SURROUND ISRAEL,AND THAT UNDER THEM THE POPULACE SUFFERS INDIGNITIES. THE "COPTS" IN EGYPT,THE "BERBERS"IN NORTH AFRICA,THE CHRISTIANS IN THE SUDAN ETC,ETC. And no,we are not using your so-called "apartheid"which has become your mantra here. Just try and be as free in any other Arab country,live there and feel the difference before you castigate David about your delusio- nal accusations. Finally to you and your ilk:Yes Israel is a morale and a "Supremely Model Country"in the whole of the Middle East. Eat your heart out!!

  • 216. 0 0
    Support Israel, undivided Jerusalem
    • johnboy
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:47

  • 215. 0 0
    #203 Hey Kath; gee that was a short
    • ballistic
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:47

    vacation or is it that you could not trust the Israeli BS tag team to carry on in your absence, or, in the alternative, you couldn't relax and not hit the blog. Hey, you didn't have to list your BS sling team members on your departure. We all knew who they were. Say, have any input on the argument of the poster, or are you like Bev trying to figure who is what and where? Say, where is Bev? We have not had an update on this poster or the other for a while now. Nope, we have not. I guess Bev needed a rest, so you took up who's who on the blogs! Regards.

  • 214. 0 0
    Let see about them BILLIONS given away .
    • Patrick O'R.
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:45

    All of them Billions spent on arms is to fight the arab neighbors, and instead seeing that the threats diminishing it is in fact on the increased, so what good has it done to the region? All them Billions looks like more fuel added to the existing fire in the middle East. ??DOUBLE the BILLIONS for more future wars?? is this a wise way of spending hard earned Tax money? How many Billions have we spent so far, and for what?

  • 213. 0 0
    # 3 Undeniable Truth
    • Labhras
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:36

    Your plan has one problem.What if one or some of these people have a different religion.Do we go the Israeli route and set up States for Catholics and protestants and so and so on.

  • 212. 0 0
    He is correct, hence Eurabia and Arabs attack it for being better
    • David
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:36

    Its not that Eurabia couldnt be better or the Arab states. In fact UAE is trying to improve amoung others. However, the Arab world in general is a failed empire. Prefering to blame others for its problems rather than fixing them. Israel is a marvel since its RE-creation. All citizens enjoy long life, medicine, culture, economic gains. It is a successful melting pot and has done it in less time than any Eurabian country. Israel isnt perfect, but it is a success story that grows better every decade. This is what positive thinking does. Am Yisrael Chai!

  • 211. 0 0
    big deal..
    • ravi
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:30

    so? an american calls israel a "model" state.... its a mutual admiration society, with a membership of two, full stop.

  • 210. 0 0
    Has Gen. Craddock ever read the recent BBC Survey?
    • Brad.
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:27

    What a statement!

  • 209. 0 0
    # 12 Cpt.Yossarian. SUPPER MODEL STATE? ABSOLUTELY.AS
    • Kath'
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:25

    FOR YOU CPT,YOSSARIAN.ARE YOU NOT AN ARMENIAN? AT LEAST THAT IS WHAT I KNOW FOR ANY NAME ENDING WITH "RIAN"OR "IAN". BUT IT IS OF NO CONSEQUENCE.WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW WAS WHETHER YOU WERE BEING SARCASTIC? OR WAS IT A FLATERINGLY GOOD GENUINE RESPONSE. Perhaps,your mother is Jewish and your papa,is of an Armenian descent.My very best friends are Armenians,so no discrimination either way.May be you can enlighten me if your post is of a denigrationary nature,or not.Much obliged either way. p/s What is wrong with "here" pray?

  • 208. 0 0
    Is he looking to get into politics.?
    • Jean Pierre
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:23

    May be a senator of......

  • 207. 0 0
    To Marilyn, here's a good one re: Israel and Australia's next PM
    • Mimi
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:23

    "Labor 'unapologetically' supports Israel, says Rudd" Feb 21, 2007 Excerpt: LABOR leader and alternative prime minister Kevin Rudd pledged his party?s continued support for Israel, describing himself as an "unapologetic and lifelong friend" at a Jewish fundraiser this week. In his first address to a Jewish audience since becoming Opposition leader, Rudd, who was leading polls for preferred prime minister this week, was guest of honour at Tuesday?s Yeshiva Centre fundraising dinner. Donning a kippa, Rudd told about 1200 guests at the Sydney Convention Centre at Darling Harbour that Israel was "near and dear to my heart". Citing Ben Chifley?s government of 1945 to illustrate Labor?s long-time support and friendship for Israel, he said the two have stood "shoulder to shoulder" since the establishment of the Jewish State. "We are proud of that ... Australia stands in awe of [Israel?s] achievements," he said. http://www.ajn.com.au/news/news.asp?pgID=2633

  • 206. 0 0
    #201 Lavi
    • Labhras
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:20

    Yeah managed all you said and also grab a few "bits of land here and there. Dont you ever wonder why Israel may have an enemy or two. It is it,s own worst enemy.

  • 205. 0 0
    what a surprise
    • tadchase
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:15

    George Bush is Craddocks boss - what would you expect him to say?

  • 204. 0 0
    Leon Trotsky, Lenin, Bugsy Siegel, Meyer Lanski......
    • Detlev
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:15

    ....Dutch Schultz, David Berkowitz (son of sam), Ted Bundy, Dylan Klebold (Columbine), Joel Rifkin, Jack the Ripper (??), Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, Jonathan Pollard, Baruch Goldstein... Models ??

  • 203. 0 0
    A different perception
    • whodey
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:07

    Of course Israel is a model state - the question is: a model for what? American administration officials sometimes have a rather different perception of events, countries and people than most other people in the world. I remember watching a cameraman on Palestinian TV in April 2002, walking through Jenin, not saying a word, just filming his surroundings. The corpses, the destroyed houses, the utter devastation, the limbs of people who were crushed when their houses were bulldozed with them still inside sticking out of the rubble. I Trying to get away from these horrible pictures, so I switched to CNN - and lo and behold, there was George W Bush calling Sharon "a man of peace".

  • 202. 0 0
    # 3 Undeniable Truth. OH,WHY DID YOU CHANGE YOUR NAME?
    • Kath'
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:05

    Nick+ H letter it was yesterday if memory serves.What was it,disatisfaction and by changing your title you thought some of us would be fooled Mmm? You should have left the part of:Globalisation out of your response that was a dead "give away" If you are genuine(ahem)yesterday's man,& If I wrong you and you are now what is written above as then I may ask your pardon. Methinks it will not happen.Also I have a sus- pission that you have relieved "ballistic" a bit to give her some rest.She did need it I must say...

  • 201. 0 0
    #184 -Arab
    • CLL
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:05

    The same old constant Arab drum beat! You are so brainwashed by Islamic hatred and commands to conquer and subjugate the world that you can not think in anyother terms. The Hebrews, Israel, predate your claims on Israel and since you accept nothing but Islamic propaganda (no doubt you all come in a direct line from the Cannanites as Arafat, the Egyptian, claimed)the possibility of Israel falling further into the Oslo trap is growing dimmer with each attack on it. Gaza is now nothing but an armed camp with Iranian and Syrian advisors, and I am astonded at why Israel does not use this as proof that the Arabs have never intended any peaceful state in "Palestine". You people do not deserve any state much less a place beside Israel.

  • 200. 0 0
    Israel Isn't Perfect, But Just Imagine What More They'd ...
    • Lavi
    • 18.03.07
    • 18:50

    ... accomplish if they didn't have to face and react to the daily grind of Arab and non-Arab terrorism, boycotts, racism, prejudice, and slander. Israel is holding together under these constant, cracking pressures and responding as properly as possible whereas a lot of other countries would either fold or respond in far harsher ways. The Israeli zest and love for life, family, academia, and religious values, and their thriving entrepreneurial spirit in a democratic country has produced them many accolades. Unlike most of the Arab nations and Iran that have mostly prospered because of readily available oil deposits or terrorism transaction fees paid by distant countries moving fighting men and weapons to join forces with other guerilla forces facing Israel's borders.

  • 199. 0 0
    to #1 an arab neigbour
    • garrick
    • 18.03.07
    • 18:50

    The root of what is wrong with the Arab world lies in your failure to 'understand' why one free, democratic society will want to support another free, democratic society without regard for ethnicity, tribal affiliation or sectarian ties. When you figure it out you will make a giant leap forward and, maybe, will join the family of civilised nations one day.

  • 198. 0 0
    106#KA
    • alonitzafoni
    • 18.03.07
    • 18:46

    SO IS CALLING ISLAM THE RELIGION OF PEACE!!!

  • 197. 0 0
    89# AND I SUPPOSE THE GUYS WHO BURN DANISH FLAGS AND RIOT OVER A
    • alonitzafoni
    • 18.03.07
    • 18:45

    STUPID CARTOON ARENT??????WAKE UP MAN!!!!

  • 196. 0 0
    # 176 Ballistic
    • ChanahS
    • 18.03.07
    • 18:41

    Can't you even recognize a conspiracy when it hits you in the face? Becasue that's what it is after all.

  • 195. 0 0
    #170 Just Curious
    • Labhras
    • 18.03.07
    • 18:37

    Yep, Every contest ends up with 2 final contestants(who were former allies) and then one kills off the other. Bye Bye Israel. One possibility- their Chief of Staff is Craddock or someone like him.

  • 194. 0 0
    re #61 'Just one of you tell us how great the other ME countries
    • Colin Wright
    • 18.03.07
    • 18:34

    As I already pointed out, we should be thankful there aren't more 'model states.' We couldn't afford it.

  • 193. 0 0
    re #57 'strong bond, shared values'
    • Colin Wright
    • 18.03.07
    • 18:31

    The shameful bit is what that 'strong bond' and those 'shared values' consist of.

  • 192. 0 0
    Incomplete article
    • Colin Wright
    • 18.03.07
    • 18:28

    Craddock must be announcing his candicacy for President -- but which party's nomination is he seeking? Anyway, if Israel is a 'model state,' let's hope we don't find too many more. 2.4 billion a year in military assistance is $400.00 per capita or so. If Russia, say, became a 'model state,' that would cost us around seventy billion a year.

  • 191. 0 0
    Double Click # 164 Where Did You Get That From?
    • Jeff Northridge
    • 18.03.07
    • 18:23

    Howdy Double Click; I doubt if the Army would waste an O-9 or O-10 to "oversee" a measely detention camp at Gitmo which is a Navy/Marine Corps base. That would be like assigning a sergeant major to latrine duty on an aircraft carrier. If GEN Craddock was in charge he must have been a lot higher up the chain of command than the resident camp commander who is probably a Marine Corps colonel or a Navy captain.

  • 190. 0 0
    Craddock has it right! Israel is a paragon of democracy
    • Hal
    • 18.03.07
    • 18:22

    Craddock has it right! Israel is a paragon of democracy. Muslim nations should seriously model themselves after Israel's democracy, human rights, and personal freedoms.

  • 189. 0 0
    Double Click -- so the man's a snake handler?
    • Gina
    • 18.03.07
    • 18:17

    Got any photos to back up your claims? If true, it demonstrates his clarity in dealing with the mindset of those who strap bombs on their very own toddlers, wouldn't you sa

  • 188. 0 0
    to an Arab Neighbor
    • Tunisian
    • 18.03.07
    • 18:15

    I live in Dubai, I don't care which dictatorship I live in, I live better than you in Israel, feel safe, enjoy strolling in Cafes, restaurants, parties and 3 times Israel GDP. What democracy brought to Israel: Corruption, masochist leaders, and sexual deprivement...don't hide behind ideals? How much time can you hold it without the aid of AIPAC, US Aid... living in a pool of people that hate your guts!, keep on praying in your Kibutz that US politicians keep on getting jewish money so thet can support you in office! Your problem is Logic is against you, history is against you, and Humanity is against you! I come from Tunisia, a coutry that always been a safe heaven for jews for over a Thousand years, Arabs have always supported jews throughout History.., the first opportunity you had you turn against the very same people that harbored many of you from extinction... Believe me, Israel is doomed!

  • 187. 0 0
    David Teich, you are right that half a lie doesn't make it true.
    • Mimi
    • 18.03.07
    • 18:13

    Book Review: 'Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid' by Jimmy Carter Half the story is too much for pro-U.S., pro-Israel apologists. by Richard Becker: http://socialismandliberation.org/mag/index.php?aid=758

  • 186. 0 0
    John Craddock is right: Israel is a model State and the only ....
    • Vittorio
    • 18.03.07
    • 18:12

    democracy in the Middle East. Israel, Canad, Australia, USA are allies in confrontation with terrorism. Europeans should follow their example of cooperation and mutual support.

  • 185. 0 0
    #167 Hey Paul; if the US and Israel
    • ballistic
    • 18.03.07
    • 18:08

    are so "inseparable" militarily as you claim, when is our "inseparable" ally gonna send some IDF to help out its ally or is it a gimme gimme syndrome by zionists. As far as US saying Israel sold China technology, google it and it is all laid out in MANY articles. Here is one site to get you started: http://www.ericmargolis.com/archives/2000/04/strange_bedfell.php Regards.

  • 184. 0 0
    Walid
    • Gina
    • 18.03.07
    • 18:07

    "the defenseless Palestinians' Not too defenseless to abduct and murder Israeli citizens, not too defenseless to abduct and murder Israeli soldiers (thereby launching a war against a sovereign country, not too defenseless to keep kidnapped soldiers away from the International Red Cross in defiance of the international community, not too defenseless to reroute international aid into weapons smuggling, not too defenseless to strap bombs on their children and grandmothers, not too defenseless to launch qassams targeting Israeli civilians, not too defenseless to send their children out to retrieve qassam launchers, not too defenseless to choose poverty for their people over announcing to the international community their desires to accept the conditions of the Quartet....

  • 183. 0 0
    Response to #163: David Teich
    • An Arab Neighbor
    • 18.03.07
    • 18:06

    1."So tell me, what other nation, when facing a 60 year war against its existence, had no limitations of the movement or other restrictions on the enemy aliens waging war? Name one!" Palestine!! This answers your questions. 2.Stop comparing Israel to the surrounding countries,they all suck, we established that. 3.Apartheid (Dictionary.com) is: "any system or practice that separates people according to race, caste, etc." How does it not apply on Israel when you occupy the territories holding Palestinians and treating them as a second (even third)-class citizens. Even your Falasha Ethiopian Jews are considered 2nd-class citizens. I do understand the meaning of the word Apartheid perfectly, it is you my friend who fails to acknowledge the reality of your practices as Israelis...you fail to see the immorality of it. You are blinded by your dream of a promised land and a Zion, blinded by your so-called Chosen People mentality, blinded by your hatred to everyone around you,especially Arab

  • 182. 0 0
    El-Birawi -- not to mention
    • Gina
    • 18.03.07
    • 18:01

    "The only good thing about Israel," Not to mention the many blessings and gifts to the world in the realms of technology, medicine, agriculture. Thank you Israel!!

  • 181. 0 0
    #167 Hey Paul; don't start playing ignorant
    • ballistic
    • 18.03.07
    • 17:57

    Craddock, a bible thumper, well, another poster says he is a Polish Jew. However, he says we need more Christians and Jews in our army. Now we can put his comments in context cause they sure don't match what he is spouting. I wonder if he is in "Jews for Jesus". According to what americans have been told on the news, the US says that Israel transferred some of US technology to China for money. Know anything about that? Regards.

  • 180. 0 0
    Proud to be an American
    • Gina
    • 18.03.07
    • 17:56

    God bless and keep you with His grace General Craddock! Israel is an amazing country.

  • 179. 0 0
    The First of April
    • jW
    • 18.03.07
    • 17:55

    All Fools' Day

  • 178. 0 0
    Walid
    • Danite
    • 18.03.07
    • 17:54

    Better to be controlled by america than by your Syrian and Iranian masters.

  • 177. 0 0
    To Jeff Northridge #153 An Answer For You!
    • An Arab Neighbor
    • 18.03.07
    • 17:53

    Shebaa Farms are the worst area to determine who is it for in the world probably!! It's partly Syrian, partly Lebanese, and partly Palestinian/Israeli. And occupied by Israel as it is annexed to the Golan Heights occupied region. Syria "unofficially" regards Shebaa Farms to be Lebanese as part of the borders once drawn by the French. But Syria refuses to draw the borders since Israel regards Shebaa farms a part of the Golan Heights. I hope you can see the dilemma here. Many messages were communicated from both the Syrians and Lebanese governments (including current ones) that it is impossible to achieve peace with Israel unilaterally (either Israel and Syria or Israel and Lebanon)...it has to be all three countries together because of these tangled issues.

  • 176. 0 0
    #173 Uh oh; now we know the real deal!
    • ballistic
    • 18.03.07
    • 17:52

    Why did he make a speech in Poland? Why not in the US? Very little public info is given on aid given to the zionists. In fact, nothing appears about it on CNN and MSNBC, or Fox for that matter. Why is that? No use in having american voters mull the amount given our deficit and ME crisis.

  • 175. 0 0
    Model State....for state-sponsored terrorism!
    • The Palestinian
    • 18.03.07
    • 17:50

    Model State.. right! The only model it fits is that of state-run terrorism and Genocide. Makes me wonder from what universe Mr. John Craddock hails from. Wonder if he'll think the same way if the tables are turned, and his own family falling victom to an illegal occupation force? wake up

  • 174. 0 0
    an arab neighbour
    • rich
    • 18.03.07
    • 17:35

    israel and the jews are as middle eastern as anything arabic... in fact they have a longer midle eastern presence than the arabs.

  • 173. 0 0
    Undeniable truth
    • rich
    • 18.03.07
    • 17:34

    the us commander is 100% correct. your theories of the way the world works are wrong... too much mixing of peoples leads to conflict.

  • 172. 0 0
    HERE IS another Craddock (Polish Jew)
    • nobodysacred
    • 18.03.07
    • 17:30

    Examples: Ludo Craddock, Chief Executive Officer, Littman Library of Jewish "Civilization" for the Institute for Polish-Jewish Studies and the American Association for Polish-Jewish Studies Craddock is Polish-Jew Theresa Craddock of Jewishospital.com and more Now the Nato infiltrator's statement is not a surprise.

  • 171. 0 0
    Labhras # 148 The Model State
    • Jeff Northridge
    • 18.03.07
    • 17:29

    Howdy Labhras; GEN Craddock probably went too far in calling Israel a model state, but he was accurate in describing her as a state with a stable government and which encourages democratic ideals and pro-Western values and economics. Israel is far from being perfect, but she compares most favorably with the totalitarian Islamic regimes in the Middle East. All democracies have problems with minorities rights and social issues and Israel is no different, but we're working on them.

  • 170. 0 0
    #105
    • From the Moon
    • 18.03.07
    • 17:28

    You are right in some way. Thus, I see another aspect with his statement. He irritates PA and tells them how they are bad. He takes side, express subjectivity. It will just give hedgehogly attitudes to PA. They will not take anything with trust what comes from USA. If you are nearby come to have a coffee. I have just private war against Mr. Bush not against other Americans.

  • 169. 0 0
    Well, the sky really IS falling!
    • Just Curious
    • 18.03.07
    • 17:26

    Where do they find these guys?* To quote,"a critical military partner" in "this entangled seam of the Middle East".............More like the entangled Neocon DREAM of the Middle East! * Don't forget our Gen.Jerry Boykin and his public assessment that we would defeat the terrorists because our G*d is stronger than their G*d!! Of course, he's an ultra-evangelical so what does that ULTIMATELY mean for the Jewish citizens of Israel? Are these the guys you really want to elevate? People who can't acheive their divine happiness until you have been eliminated? Makes no sense to me........anybody else?

  • 168. 0 0
    #145 Craif F. re: Marilyn Shepherd
    • * BEN JABO
    • 18.03.07
    • 17:18

    I googled "Marilyn Shepherd-Australia", lots of stuff on her. Real rabble rouser and malcontent. I'm thrilled I don't live on the same continent.

  • 167. 0 0
    To #72 Benzion Zaretzky- "communist".
    • Vital
    • 18.03.07
    • 17:17

    I do not know about your age, Benzion, but certainly your vision resembles to me the ideas of former Soviet Leaders who spent enormous efforts together with Arab countries to eliminate Israel.Jews from many parts of the Diaspora built wonderful country with a strong democracy. Benzion, I recommend you, turn attention to Leaders of United PA government and explain them that without recognition of Israel they have zero options for their future. Israel is a cradle of Western civilization and she continues to defend its values.

  • 166. 0 0
    #159 BALLISTIC SPILLS THE BEANS CRADDOCK IS
    • paul harris
    • 18.03.07
    • 17:15

    A BIBLE THUMPER !! REALLY B AND WHAT ELSE IS ON THE MENU TODAY APART FROM YOUR NIT WITTERY .YOU CANNOT GET IT INTO YOUR NUMBSKULL THAT ISRAEL AND THE USA ARE INSEPARABLE MILITARILY . WHAT EXACTLY DID ISRAEL SELL TO CHINA THAT IT DIDNT DESIGN FOR ITSELF??? KEEP WHISTLING IT DARK OUT SIDE !!

  • 165. 0 0
    labhras "apartheid and brutal policies"
    • papalbull
    • 18.03.07
    • 17:14

    that really is bull labhras.we never never never put bombs among civilians.we never ever deliberately bombed civilians. you guys do it all the time.who is the more brutal?the jews or your lot?

  • 164. 0 0
    nobodysacred; it was timed to
    • ballistic
    • 18.03.07
    • 17:14

    attempt to justify to US voters the large expenditure to zionists at a time when Katrina victims and other victims of US disasters are getting NO AID. Well, Carter's book says Jews control Congress, so what do you do, well, you put out a statement that the world should not believe their own lying eyes in Iraq, Lebanon and Pal land. Seems like that statement undermines his credibiity a tad, yup, it does. In fact, it flies in the face of the poll the US gov't had FOX News do, Bush's channel, and the BBC poll which both showed the SAME thing that US/Israel are two most dangerous countries on the planet according to world opinion. Karen Hughes was hired to fix that, but guess she was not effective looking at the later BBC poll. Craddock is one of those folks who is a Christian seeking to bring about biblical prophesy of Armageddon! He says we need more Christians and Jews in the army, yeh, right.

  • 163. 0 0
    NOTE: Craddock's Background
    • Double Click
    • 18.03.07
    • 17:12

    Craddock oversaw the Guantanamo Bay detention camp and was formerly chief military assistant to Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld. He grew up in the southeast section of West Virginia, where 'snake handling' was a common practice among evangelical Christians. His authorization and defense of prisoner abuses in Guantanamo should give pause to anyone believing in democracy. He is a disgrace to my country and to Christianity.

  • 162. 0 0
    129: So, Syrian, how about you end the war before you blather?
    • David Teich
    • 18.03.07
    • 17:11

    1) The Muslim Brotherhood, of which Hamas is a member, declared global jihad its cause in 1928 2) The Arab League declared war against Israel's existence in '48 3) Fatah did so in '58 4) The PLO did so in '65 So tell me, what other nation, when facing a 60 year war against its existence, had no limitations of the movement or other restrictions on the enemy aliens waging war? Name one! Then look up the definition of Apartheid, which is separate laws for a country's own citizens, admit it doesn't apply to Israel, but does to many Arab nations. As for the 93% of military aid, again: What other country in the ME, or in the world, has been defending its existence for 60 years? Are you saying the aggressors should get the money? Syria, for funding terrorist attacks? Sudan for genocide? You talk about shame but, like apartheid, it's a word you don't understand or you'd feel it for the nonsense you post. I also notice you're not willing to live in your own country, but a freer Dubai.

  • 161. 0 0
    labhras "israel runs a state for one set of people"
    • papalbull
    • 18.03.07
    • 17:11

    like the republic of ireland wanting to run the state for catholics?

  • 160. 0 0
    labhras "israel breaks international laws daily"
    • papalbull
    • 18.03.07
    • 17:09

    what like massacring ulstermen daily because you lust for their land?

  • 159. 0 0
    labhras there are few fools in the usa
    • papalbull
    • 18.03.07
    • 17:07

    the irish in the usa have not made it further then policemen on the beat.

  • 158. 0 0
    #8 Hey Paul Harris; still at it eh!
    • ballistic
    • 18.03.07
    • 17:03

    Well, it appears that Gen Craddock is not in step with the rest of the world opinion, eh? He was the one who said we need more Jewish and Christians soldiers in the armed services. What is this BS about not trusting Arabs? I do believe the US said our ally, Israel, got some type of jet technology for defense from the US and then promptly sold it to China. So, exactly what is this "trust" you are talking about? Everybody knows about Israel's democracy and has a handle on it. Given the facts on the ground, the General's comments (I believe he is a bible thumper) will pass into oblivion where they should rest. Any sane person knows what he says could not be further from the truth, nope, it could not be. Let's talk some more about trust cause last year somebody in AIPAC was accused of spying, and, of course, we still have Pollard. What excuse do you have for selling US technology to China, did you need money? Regards.

  • 157. 0 0
    #138 YES FRITZ THEY HAVE SAVED YOU FROM THE RUSSIANS FOR 55 YEARS
    • paul harris
    • 18.03.07
    • 17:03

    SO SOMETHING IS MISSING . TRY USING SEIN KOPF

  • 156. 0 0
    #149 nobodys sacred - Neither are you
    • * BEN JABO
    • 18.03.07
    • 17:00

    Which poll, what poll? How about some specifics, or are you just another windbag venting his frustrations? Links & references to support your utterance would be required. "In every major poll the majority of people"

  • 155. 0 0
    Re: Marilyn
    • Trish
    • 18.03.07
    • 17:00

    She must be the same Marilyn Shepard of Adelaide who in talkbacks in the SMH spewing her hate of little Johny Howard.

  • 154. 0 0
    #148 LABARSE TELL US EIRE IS NOT A MODEL STATE
    • paul harris
    • 18.03.07
    • 16:58

    WHICH RESOLUTIONS ARE BROKEN DAILY ??

  • 153. 0 0
    #146 COOL BREEZE BLOWS IN FROM THE PACIFIC
    • paul harris
    • 18.03.07
    • 16:56

    IT HOWEVER IS A WIND WITHOUT ABRAIN

  • 152. 0 0
    An Arab Neighbor # 129 A Question For You
    • Jeff Northridge
    • 18.03.07
    • 16:52

    Howdy An Arab Neighbor; A Syrian at last! Perhaps you could answer a little question that's been troubling me for years. Does Syria consider the Shebaa Farms to be Syrian territory or Lebanese territory? Ignore the fact that the area is currently occupied by Israel. Thanks.

  • 151. 0 0
    No shame
    • IW
    • 18.03.07
    • 16:51

    Our "pals" the Pals have no one to blame for their dysfunction but themselves. And the whole world knows it, but they play out this farce of agreeing to blame Israel, the "occupation", America, Britain, "infidels", and the list goes on and on. Why? Arab oil. Not anything they've produced to enrich mankind--just the oil they've found in the ground under their feet. Yes, Israel is a model state for what they've made of themselves against unbelievable odds, with nothing but grit, determination, belief in their God-given rights and values of true faith, respect and humanism. Instead of jealously and hypocritically fighting them, the Arabs could learn something--they'd be a lot better off. Thanks to General Craddock for the courage to tell the truth.

  • 150. 0 0
    # 141, GIRISH
    • indrajaya
    • 18.03.07
    • 16:42

    ...s__t, what an irony!... What an inspiring comparison you have there brother, thanks. Shot to the heart. Israel is a spoil child that doesn't care a bit if her father get killed because of her.

  • 149. 0 0
    Hooray for Craddock's courage
    • Harvey Berman
    • 18.03.07
    • 16:39

    It's about time someone had the courage to speak the truth about Israel without fear of offending so-called Arab friends or allies. The truth is that Israel is a staunch ally of the United States, a democratic, peace-loving country, and the only place in the Middle East where American values voluntarily abound and where America gets back as much or more than it invests. Thank you General Craddock. Now get ready for the Arab backlash.

  • 148. 0 0
    "model state" as the most "negative" and the "biggest threat" !
    • nobodysacred
    • 18.03.07
    • 16:35

    In every major poll the majority of people of the world votes the illegal occupier of Palestinian lands as the most "negative" and the "biggest threat" regime which violate numerous international laws, threaties and resolutions. And how about the billions US it gets in military aid!! Almost the same as what Europe and Africa combined get! Not counting the non-military hand out. The only explanation I see in the commander's statement is that he was under some zionist's threat.

  • 147. 0 0
    Model State
    • Labhras
    • 18.03.07
    • 16:35

    So let,s see.Here are this man,s preconditions for being a model State. 1 Break international Laws Daily. 2 Be in "Non Compliance with more UN resolutions than any other State on the planet . 3.Run A state that is based on and serves mainly one group of people and call it a democracy. 4. Operate and carry out an apartheid and brutal policy towards your neighbour and take continuous belligerent actions towards other neighbouring States. If this General has this level of grasp on reality then is the fiasco in Iraq any surprise.God help America with fools like that on the loose.

  • 146. 0 0
    Look who is talking
    • Mary
    • 18.03.07
    • 16:34

    Is he Jewish?

  • 145. 0 0
    #140 Cool Breeze - Hardly, Just HOT AIR
    • * BEN JABO
    • 18.03.07
    • 16:33

    Israel doesn't kill children, it kills terrorists. Take the time, see this following film, no admission charge, courtesy of AOL. It shows how Arabs use their own kids and kill them in the process. Here's the link, learn to think!http://movies.aol.com/truestories/making-of-a-martyr

  • 144. 0 0
    Yacov, RE:Marilyn
    • Craig F
    • 18.03.07
    • 16:31

    Marilyn Shepherd does not see the irony of being able to use an Israeli media source to bag that very same country. She wilfully declines to note that this would be impossible to do in any of Israel's neighbouring states, where freedom of the press is prohibited. Instead, she uses the funds allocated to her through our social welfare system to sit and home and troll through every single Australian media outlet in which to proclaim her hatred of our state. She has been banned by some media outlets, who refuse to further publish her propaganda due to its often exaggerated tone. You should expect the only democracy in the middle-east to receive this type of treatment. This is what is expected of those who wish to revoke those very freedoms.

  • 143. 0 0
    equity
    • TBS
    • 18.03.07
    • 16:28

    Use the money fairly. Not just on Israel. Give money to people who need help. The money in question should be used for helping the poor and building houses for the homeless. There is already too much war going on, so why continue it by giving weapons? People are getting hurt by using the weapons. Thank You, Temple Beth Shalom SHALOM FOR NOW

  • 142. 0 0
    132Bert Stein: I suggest you move to a better country then US
    • Michigan
    • 18.03.07
    • 16:21

    Any Arab/Moslem country of your choice. Then you'll find out what "a facist, racist apartheid country" really looks like.

  • 141. 0 0
    #137 Craig: Marilyn one of the Haaretz army of nutters
    • Yacov
    • 18.03.07
    • 16:15

    Haaretz has its army of nutters that spend their time spewing standard anti-Israel, anti-Jewish hate propaganda. They spend the rest of their time hiding from the squirrels.

  • 140. 0 0
    self congratulatory
    • GIRISH
    • 18.03.07
    • 16:14

    when i was a bully in my school, my dad used to call me a 'great guy' in my neighbourhood, not my neighbors and teachers. appears its same happening in israel :-) . s__t, what an irony!

  • 139. 0 0
    MODEL STATE MY ASS!!!
    • Cool Breeze
    • 18.03.07
    • 16:11

    Israel is a model state for oppression and killing children. Its the most hated country in the world today.

  • 138. 0 0
    40 YEARS vs 4 YEARS
    • indrajaya
    • 18.03.07
    • 16:06

    It seems this supreme commando is so stunt about Israel ability to maintain its firm grip upon occupied territories during the 40 years. Something that the US can hardly do properly in Iraq within 4 years. TWO CRIMINAL STATES are learning to each other to commit more CRIMES.

  • 137. 0 0
    The US are far away from reality, more! ;-)
    • Fritz
    • 18.03.07
    • 16:05

    Well, if this is the US strategy for the world...something is missing.

  • 136. 0 0
    About Marilyn
    • Craig F
    • 18.03.07
    • 16:02

    Marilyn Shepherd is a regular agitator down here; she hates our government to such an extent that in order to fight against our decision to overthrow the fascist, genocidal Saddam Hussein of Iraq, she has supported insurgents in Iraq. She has spoken in favour of the Taliban, and in their defence, because her hatred for Prime Minister Howard is so intense. The fact that both the Taliban and Saddam Hussein were two of the worst serial human rights abusing perpetrators on the planet speaks volumes about Marilyn Shepherd's lack of comitment for these values.

  • 135. 0 0
    #112 Maureen Ann - Same ?
    • * BEN JABO
    • 18.03.07
    • 15:56

    If so, then he knows how to handle terrorist scum and their collaborators.

  • 134. 0 0
    #112 Maureen Ann - You're great at asking
    • * BEN JABO
    • 18.03.07
    • 15:54

    questions, but lousy at answering. Still waiiting for valid sources on all the crap you've posted. I've asked repeatedly, you're afraid to answer, because there aren't any. Meanwhile, in your spare time, you just might enjoy watching this film, that is, after you've attended to your Aussie Muslim Rapists, and have restored the rights of your Aboriginies. The film is about how your cowardly leaders send their "Terror Tots" out to do their dirty work....Link follows::http://movies.aol.com/truestories/making-of-a-martyr

  • 133. 0 0
    #108 Marilyn: Your standard Xian lies about Jews
    • Yacov
    • 18.03.07
    • 15:53

    On a daily basis you submit your standard Xian and Muslim lies about Jews. 90% of your posting is absolute lies, distortion and propaganda. Of course, we Jews are also used to hearing that we kill Xian children and use their blood to bake matzah, have an international conspiracy to control the world, are eternally condemned for killing Xsus, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

  • 132. 0 0
    poor fool...
    • samos
    • 18.03.07
    • 15:51

    ...and he probably thinks Egypt and Pakistan, not just Is-it real, are 'democracies', too...

  • 131. 0 0
    La Cage Aux Folles
    • Bert Stein
    • 18.03.07
    • 15:48

    Israel is a mirror of America, a facist, racist apartheid country lead by a fool. As they say in French "La Cage Aux Folles" (birds of a feather flock together).

  • 130. 0 0
    #122 Alan in NY - BRAVO!
    • Nechama
    • 18.03.07
    • 15:46

    that's telling 'em!

  • 129. 0 0
    #3 Undeniable truth??
    • * BEN JABO
    • 18.03.07
    • 15:45

    Segregated communites were set up by Arabs themselves, all by their lonesome. Every community attempts to isolate itself from unwanted violence. If you know your neighbor intends to burgle or attack, you lock your doors and remove the car keys. The intent is to protect yourself, family & possessions. Since your hostile neighbor has repeatedly attempted to harm you take every precaution your deem necessary. Taking a bus, dining out, going to a movie, musn't be an ordeal of fearing that a bomb will go off to spoil your enjoyment. There are few ways to prevent harm, one is to isolate the assailant. Surely, you wouldn't be stupid enough to leave your doors unlocked and your person unprotected, or would you? Since your so brave, at the expense of others, let's see you walk the streets of Harlem or Philadelphia after dark. We'll read about it in the papers the following day.

  • 128. 0 0
    I am Syrian!
    • An Arab Neighbor
    • 18.03.07
    • 15:40

    Yes I am. But when I condemn such a statement: Israel is a model state!! I'm not in any way saying that Syria is better!! nor am I saying Egypt or Jordan or any other Arabic country for that matter. The idiot John Craddock didn't say Israel is a model state compared to its neighbors. He said Israel is a model state. full stop. No Syria is not better at all. But which do I prefer to be? A Syrian living under the Baathist dictatorship or a Palestinian living under the apartheid regime of Israel...I would definitely choose Syria. (by the way...I actually live in Dubai!!) So stop comparing yourselves to the stupid Arab countries that surround you, and start comparing yourselves to the rest of the world. Of course you'll show as a better country compared to the ignorant Arab countries surrounding you. The aid of which %93 goes to Israel is not dedicated to the ME. It's for Europe and Africa...and Israel gets %93 of it! Shame.

  • 127. 0 0
    Marilyn #103
    • Nechama
    • 18.03.07
    • 15:40

    Why are you blaming Israel for all your problems when you wouldn't have any single one of them if you and your bloody brothers and sisters would just lay down your arms and ask for peace? If you care so much about the women and children why brainwash them into blowing themselves up? make up your mind. Stop complaining for what you bring onto yourselves. Stop making yourselves victims.

  • 126. 0 0
    Joke of the year
    • Moe
    • 18.03.07
    • 15:40

    Which cave did this knucklehead escape from??? Kinda weird that this guy is a general... Doesnt seem to have any common sense or is unaware of whats going on... dillusioned to say the least.

  • 125. 0 0
    The Man is far from MAD!
    • Alan
    • 18.03.07
    • 15:39

    He is just telling the truth. Who do you think gives the U.S most of there intelligence in the middle east. 1.2 billion muslims 5 million Jews. With that enormous disparity of people It is truly amazing How Israel does what it does. Then Again you have Antisemites who can only see what they want to see. Hey Marilyn you still think we have there land.LOL.Okay why is Jeruselem not mentioned in the Koran. Who are the Palestinians. Ask Walib Shobet. He said it the best. One day I went to bed and I was a Jordanian, next morning they told me I was a Palestinian and they taught me to kill Jews. Until I saw with my own eyes. I can work in Israel(democracy) and do what I wanted till this Intifada started.(BY ARAFAT, Another Jordanian)1.2 billion Muslims,What have they contributed to society? Besides oil nothing.They are just mad we grow oranges the size of Basketballs.I am surprised by the restraint of this liberal Israeli Govt.We know they are arming on all sides from Syria and Iran

  • 124. 0 0
    My babblin' buddy, Harzion # 101
    • Clickfool
    • 18.03.07
    • 15:37

    "clickfool has never worked in his life. he also has an infant in the house into whose heart he pours hatred for the jews." My poor, indoctrinated, ruined-for-life son, voted Citizen of the Year 2006 at his primary school. (;-) CF

  • 123. 0 0
    re; 105
    • sj
    • 18.03.07
    • 15:35

    I agree with your statement, BUT we have to ask ourselves does this man also have dual citizenship with Israel. It appears that the LOT of USA leaders do. I also have to ask MODEL to WHAT??? The temple of evil, doom or just barbaric racist immoral state? NO thanks to following those kinds of *model states* ! But our own USA doesnt fair well with the international communities and their peoples as well.

  • 122. 0 0
    More thn apartheid
    • Omran
    • 18.03.07
    • 15:34

    Jews are always in danger out in the wide world; only in a state that privileges them racially and religiously can they be safe from gentile oppression and can prosper. If Israel removed its racist laws and symbols and became a non-racist democratic state, Jews would cease to be a majority and would be like Diaspora Jews, a minority in a non-Jewish state.

  • 121. 0 0
    e.m in s.f. re: An Arab Neighbor
    • Nechama
    • 18.03.07
    • 15:27

    don't forget to mention that only 4% or less of Israel's income is foreign aid. That's a fact.

  • 120. 0 0
    maureen ann no he ran the sydney opera house prison
    • yishuv
    • 18.03.07
    • 15:23

    whenever women got to loud he shhhd them.at the moment you are far too loud.go to the beach.

  • 119. 0 0
    92: Mimi, half a lie doesn't make it true
    • David Teich
    • 18.03.07
    • 15:22

    Considering the definition of "apartheid" is two laws for citizens of a single country, Carter lies when applying it to non-citizens. He does that intentionally, knowing the false analogy, in order to blur the line between the two. He also fails to accept that the Pals are in a self-declared State of War against Israel's existence. Every country at war has the right, shown again and again and supported by int'l law, to restrict actions of enemy aliens. Claiming that he didn't mean to imply Israel was apartheid among it's own citizens doesn't obviate Carter's clear lies.

  • 118. 0 0
    Magdy# 20 question?
    • Nechama
    • 18.03.07
    • 15:22

    Just wondering if those women and children you Palestinians care so much about are different than or the same ones you encourage to blow themselves up?

  • 117. 0 0
    KHALID aka American living here.Nice to know you have an escape
    • PETER SM
    • 18.03.07
    • 15:21

    all organised. What's wrong with moving in with one of the peace loving democratic Arab countries? Why do you Islamists bag the USA then queue up to get in.Isn't Islamic rule so superior or are you going to try and Islamise the USA?

  • 116. 0 0
    90: Walid the puppy's back and talking about wagging
    • David Teich
    • 18.03.07
    • 15:19

    1) The Muslim Brotherhood, of which Hamas is a member, declared global jihad its cause in 1928 2) The Arab League declared war against Israel's existence in '48 3) Fatah did so in '58 4) The PLO did so in '65 Yeah, poor defenseless Pals, it's all because of something that happened, out of the blue, in '67, right Walid? Then there's the history of 60 years of violence against Israel, including the continual raining of Kassams on Sderot. Walid's close to being right -- by mistake. It's not "defense" the Pals are doing, it's "offense".

  • 115. 0 0
    american living here is confused
    • betzalel ben uri
    • 18.03.07
    • 15:14

    he accuses the general of : 1 being mentally handicapped 2 being ignorant. you will never make a good lawyer.you are all over the place. making unfriendly comments about the handicapped is an unamerican activity.perhaps you are a palestinian american.like pal brit. passports will not change your nature pal.

  • 114. 0 0
    18: As opposed to CF, England's Jackass?
    • David Teich
    • 18.03.07
    • 15:14

    "Tell that to the Palestinians, who chose Hamas in a free and fair election, only to be punished by Israel and America." As usual, CF seems to think that democracy comes with rights but no responsibility, that somehow it's ok to elect people openly calling for Israel's destruction and not to have other nations be upset. Guess what, puppy, neither the US nor ISrael said "we don't think your election was fair", rather, we said "You made your bed, you lie in it." "Starvation Blockade" We've seen pictures of starving, in Africa. So, CF, show me similar pictures of Pals with bloated bellies. Then show how the starving folks in Africa declared war to destroy a sovereign nation. Of course, CF does a great self-description if you take part of his last sentence: "whose expertise lies." That says it all...

  • 113. 0 0
    He has both brains and courage!
    • Nechama
    • 18.03.07
    • 15:14

  • 112. 0 0
    Model state?
    • Steve
    • 18.03.07
    • 15:10

    I visited Israel 2 years ago. My intention was to stay for 1 year. Being an American of Arab descent, I was told that I had to leave the country every 3 months in order to renew my visa. My American Jewish friends did not have to leave the Country. I visited Egypt and Jordan during those renewels. I met many Jews who were freely traveling these countries. I was not given any additional rights, being of Arab descent. On my third renewel, I went back to Jordan. When I returned to Israel, they told my wife,4 children and myself that we are not welcome back and that we must go back to the USA. When my wife asked why, the officer said, "We don't want you here". We have never been active in anything anti Israel and have always wished for peace for both sides. As I said, I have many Jewish friends. The fact of the matter is, this is probably the most racist state in existence. The only reason it is still in existence is due to the holding hostage/lobbying of our politicians.

  • 111. 0 0
    Is this the same John Craddock of US Southern Command...
    • Maureen Ann
    • 18.03.07
    • 15:06

    Guantanamo Bay Prison?

  • 110. 0 0
    SLIME CENTRAL
    • Brant
    • 18.03.07
    • 15:05

    How sad it is that these Haaretz talkbacks have become little more than a place for Jew-baiters and Israel-bashers to live in complete freedom. It has become so predictable that the second a story (like this one about General Craddock calling Israel a model state) appears, out come all the loonies. First, they vilify a man they do not know; then they speak of horrible US/Israel plots; trotting out their learned vocabulary of zionist-offending words.And then out comes the "apartheid" nonsense. It's a broken record that just keeps playing the same old tune until someone bumps it. If you believe the slime that passes for "opinion" here, next thing you know Syria or Iran will be held up as the example of what a model state should be. Actually, to most of these posters perhaps all it takes to be a "model" state is to support the Palestinian side no matter how many Jews they slaughter and to work for Israel's extinction. Haaretz is helping them do their job.

  • 109. 0 0
    Nothing but fear of loud mouthed jews.
    • American
    • 18.03.07
    • 15:02

  • 108. 0 0
    Arab Neighbor
    • Lynn
    • 18.03.07
    • 15:01

    Seems OK to me. How much have you given to the Pals? Have the Saudis transferred the 1 billion they promised the Pals? And, which one of the truly democratic Arab States do you live in?

  • 107. 0 0
    Yeah Yavoc, pot, kettle, black
    • Marilyn
    • 18.03.07
    • 14:59

    Yeah, yeah Yacov, I know all that and fight against it every way I can and always have. ON the other hand look at what you wrote and think about what you wrote and then look at the land stolen from the Palestinians, the poverty, the children being murdered by the IDF, the mothers dying in childbirth at the checkpoints because the IDF refuse to let them get to a hospital, the wall, the hundreds of humiliating checkpoints, the passes, the ID cards, the bulldozing of homes and mosques and offices, the murder of whole families in their homes asleep. Rest assured sunshine that does not and could not happen in Xtria because we are not yet a facist, totaly racist and apartheid state like Israel. Gee, we even have indigenous doctors and professors. Shucks, just spoilt your stupidity didn't I?

  • 106. 0 0
    i feel like i have a fly swatter in my hand
    • flykiller
    • 18.03.07
    • 14:56

    i go through the list of names.when i see an unfriendly face i am tempted to swat it.it is an irrestible temptation.

  • 105. 0 0
    He should be fired instantly for poor mental ability
    • American living here
    • 18.03.07
    • 14:50

    Describing a manifestly racist state as "model for democracy" shows that Craddocks is mentally handicapped. He shouldn't be a military leader. He is too ignorant to be a leader.

  • 104. 0 0
    MIMI: Israel is moer than apartheid, it is a hateful racist state
    • sami
    • 18.03.07
    • 14:48

    I live here and I know the situation better than you and Carter.

  • 103. 0 0
    #84: Proud Pal Pretender- Israel should be like Arab states?
    • Yacov
    • 18.03.07
    • 14:44

    Israel should be more like Arab states? Saudi Arabia and their 4,000 parasitic princes with their harems and stables of children bleeding the national wealth while 35% of the population is unemployed? Israel should be more like Iraq where the Sunnis and Shias are committing genocide against each other on a daily basis? More like Syria or Libya with unelected tin cup dictators and their secret services terrorizing their own subjects? Like the Palestinians who embezzle or spend their aid money on weapons while their children go hungry? More like the Sudan with the Muslim genocide in Darfur? No thanks, Pal. Israel is a utopia compared to these Arab Muslim horror stories.

  • 102. 0 0
    Balestinian TWIT in Beit Jalla
    • GABE1
    • 18.03.07
    • 14:44

    Depending on perfection and knowing full well from that SS site what the Prophet of Terror called perfection. I can honestly say that Gaza is Perfection itself. Honour killings, Jihad(Fatah v Hamas), lying about signed treaties, Thugs roaming free. The Prophet of terror would be proud.

  • 101. 0 0
    clickfool had irish ancestors fighting for the ira.
    • harzion
    • 18.03.07
    • 14:39

    he is as much of a brit as the palestinian from beit jala.presumably the beit jalla man at leasts works.clickfool has never worked in his life. he also has an infant in the house into whose heart he pours hatred for the jews.

  • 100. 0 0
    clickfool "military men who know the best way to kill people"
    • harzion
    • 18.03.07
    • 14:36

    yours sure do.the british kill and torture civilians in basra.they killed pows in goose green falklands and they kill in afghanistan. no more accomplished killers of civilians then the british.

  • 99. 0 0
    What's the surprise
    • Margie in Tel Aviv
    • 18.03.07
    • 14:35

    After sixty years of life with constant regular and guerilla warfare plaguing it, Israel has a record to be proud of. It's the only first world state in the region and a leader in the fields of medicine, science, plastics, agriculture, irrigation, art and cinema. Jealousy naturally abounds and scoffers are discomfited and unbelieving of Israel's accomplishments, because these are very striking and special. Of course there are problems remaining and fields left to conquer. Who is without flaw?

  • 98. 0 0
    Only 2,4 billion to protect the world from terror?
    • Marc Hamil
    • 18.03.07
    • 14:34

    Is that all the free world is worth to be protected from Arab Muslim Terror? If Israel would have the support as well as money than perhaps there would be a chance for the West to stand up against Islamic stemmed violence and oppression. Oh, Thank you Joan Craddock, its rare that someone in the US speaks with wisdom these days.

  • 97. 0 0
    I agree...
    • David K.
    • 18.03.07
    • 14:33

    I see that we have a lot of antisemites and antizionists on this board. How dare you critiscize Israel. Shariah law in all the arab lands is definitley better, NOT! Wake up, and stop crying wolf! Go and visit, go and live in Israel, you can be Muslim, Jewish, Christian, etc... and not be killed. Do some research before you make such arrogant statements! You are being brainwashed in your Arab schools to hate Jews, and the Jewish state. Take advantage of the fact that Israel is very welcoming, because one day, if the situation worsens, Israel won't let anymore Arabs in. Just speaking the truth, dave

  • 96. 0 0
    palestinian brit kach is better then those who
    • yishuv
    • 18.03.07
    • 14:32

    place explosives in trains and killing women and children.how many bombs did kach put into trains. i am interetsed you call yourself a brit.a passport will not erase beit jallah man.

  • 95. 0 0
    who is more credible the general or a member of the
    • yishuv
    • 18.03.07
    • 14:29

    british national party like you? your job is lousy clickfool.you are after a people that excels in all they do.whether it vanquishes its foes in wars wins nobel prizes or makes tons of money in the world of commerce. just look at us and be envious.eat your heart out.

  • 94. 0 0
    American Finance For Israel
    • Dan
    • 18.03.07
    • 14:27

    There are lots of arabs and muslims writing here that they are dismayed by America constantly funding Israel but come on guys are you really surprised I mean do you think America should fund all the muslim states in most of these states women have no legitimate rights and individual freedom is NOT respected. In Israel Arabs live a better life financially and freedom wise than they would in almost any muslim country I mean you get israeli arabs complaining but you do not see too many of them running to leave the country that lets them go out meet women, drink alcohol and earn money. What i would say to these muslims is that we as westerners do not want to live an oppressed lifestyle like yours and that is what USA says by supporting israel against extreme muslims. Why do muslims think the rest of the world should sympathise with there extreme anti democratic beliefs

  • 93. 0 0
    # 91 John
    • Swiss (Dino)
    • 18.03.07
    • 14:09

    John, what's the problem...?? If the Israelis would really intend to do some "foulplay" and the peace process go nowhere, the Palestinians could withdraw their declara- tion the very next day, and no one could blame them for doing so. An absolute win/win situation.

  • 92. 0 0
    Sami, Jimmy Carter did not say, "Israel is an Apartheid."
    • Mimi
    • 18.03.07
    • 14:01

    On Nov. 30, 2006, Jimmy Carter spoke to CNN's Anderson Cooper about his book. He stated that his use of "apartheid" does not refer to Israel at all. It refers to outside Israel, inside Palestine - where Israel's occupying forces are; inside Israel there's no semblance of apartheid - it's a wonderful democracy, with everyone treated the same... Read show transcript: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0611/30/acd.02.html In his Dec. 15, 2006 letter to Jewish citizens of America, Jimmy Carter clarified that his use of "apartheid" does not apply to circumstances within Israel proper: http://www.cartercenter.org/news/pr/carter_letter_121506.html

  • 91. 0 0
    Swiss Dino
    • John
    • 18.03.07
    • 13:59

    Dino,until Israel defines its borders I can't see how the palestinians could possibly "recognize"the state.Were that to happen I believe that eventually Israel would declare her borders that would include most of the west bank.

  • 90. 0 0
    Tail Wagging the Dog
    • Walid
    • 18.03.07
    • 13:57

    He who who pays the piper picks the tune. With these billions given to Israel over the years, even if it's mostly in American arms, Israel is subservient to the US and acts as it's local bouncer so the amount the Americans are spending annually on the Israelis is still comparatively cheap. Despite this, illusionistic Israelis persist in thinking that it is the Israeli tail that is wagging the big American dog. The only thing Israel can wag are the defenseless Palestinians.

  • 89. 0 0
    Craddocks judgement flawed
    • Jens
    • 18.03.07
    • 13:52

    Craddock flawed remarks on Israel put's serious doubt on his abilities to handle his post. Israel certainly isn't a model state in any way. And in fact is a liability not only to the US but also europe.

  • 88. 0 0
    #5 Marilyn: Of course, Israel should be like Australian Xian gov
    • Yacov
    • 18.03.07
    • 13:49

    Of course, Israel would be a much better place if we were like the Australian Xian government. Your Xian land thieves continue to occupy the continent you stole from the Aborigines. You Xians kidnapped their children; enslaved their parents; stole the best grazing lands, opal fields and whatever else your filthy hands could grab; you continue to confine them to reservations. They suffer extreme poverty, unemployment, poor health, bad schools, while you Xians enjoy the stolen wealth of their land.

  • 87. 0 0
    $2.4 billion in Aid: sounds banana republic
    • cc
    • 18.03.07
    • 13:46

    Hey Israel: can you just pay the bills yourself as a civilized and modern nation. Accepting such money sounds Third World Country at the time of the Cold War. Hey chaps.... 21st Century now.

  • 86. 0 0
    And so is Aparthied South Africa and George Bush
    • El-Birawi
    • 18.03.07
    • 13:44

    No doubt setting the pace for a future job in Washington. If Israel is a model state, then the entire world is in real trouble. The minus far exceed the pluses. The only good thing about Israel, it was a heaven for the Jews escaping Europe when the US and England under pressure from the Zionist movement put restrictions on the admission of Jews.

  • 85. 0 0
    #80 | @Palestinian Butt
    • Spoon
    • 18.03.07
    • 13:38

    It is always funny when (frustrated) people like you criticize other countries; repeat: Always! Rest in peace, kid!

  • 84. 0 0
    #60PeterSM--LOL: ISRAEL Could Be A Model State Too. But It's Not!
    • Proud Pal Defender
    • 18.03.07
    • 13:37

    Peter-- Israel has had years to be a model the state! ...A supposed "beacon of democracy"/"only democracy in the Middle East...it claims to be. It Takes More-- Than giving citizens the right to vote, to be a democracy. Human & Civil Rights-- A democracy, must not only give its citizens, human & civil rights: It must be an ADVOCATE/PERPETUATOR (if not an Enforcer) of them...for its own people...AND OTHERS Around The World! It Must Also Be An Advocate, Etc. Of The Rule Of Law/Int'l Law. Israel-- Is none of these things (nor is the US now). Israel's actions regarding Palestine...ARE WELL KNOWN! Israel's actions regarding the Rule Of Law/Int'l Law...ARE ALSO WELL KNOWN! Israel Has Had Years-- To be a good example/model state! As A FIRST Option-- Israel chooses to the do the wrong thing: Human/Civil Right abuses & violations. Fence/Wall, Settlements on Pals' land/EJ. Etc. The list is TRAGIC & LONG! Also Tragic-- You believe it is one!

  • 83. 0 0
  • 82. 0 0
    BIG JOKE
    • Neutered Observer
    • 18.03.07
    • 13:21

  • 81. 0 0
    No 44. Yishuv
    • Palestinian Brit
    • 18.03.07
    • 13:18

    And do you support the Kach party...?

  • 80. 0 0
    Israel the ideal state.
    • Palestinian Brit
    • 18.03.07
    • 13:17

    I'm not claiming that either Palestine or the UK are ideal states - far from it. But if the US thinks Israel is an ideal state then the world can concentrate its aid to countries which do NOT claim to be ideal! It is actually a complete joke - this week Israel is very high on the list of most unpopular countries in the world! I guess that's just good old anti-semitism at work again though....?

  • 79. 0 0
    Craddock in charge of Guantanamo...what do you expect
    • Tim
    • 18.03.07
    • 13:16

    Any man who would run Guantanamo would have no trouble with the standards of Israel.

  • 78. 0 0
    BENZION ZARETSKY or maybe he is just not a slogan shouter.
    • PETER SM
    • 18.03.07
    • 13:14

    Who is able to see and articulate the whole picture. Which apartheid state has minority minister,ambassador and an alternate speaker of Parliament and representatives of the minority at all levels in the professions etc. Oh its so easy to shout the slogans.

  • 77. 0 0
    No 34. Peter.
    • Palestinian Brit
    • 18.03.07
    • 13:12

    Apparently it doesn't need any help at all. Its an ideal state....it's joined the Big Boys! The joke is - I wonder how many people in the world would regard America as an ideal country? Not so many I'm sure!

  • 76. 0 0
    To David Nigel Braham ...
    • How Silly
    • 18.03.07
    • 13:11

    "Take any Israeli Arab,Christian or muslim and ask him or her where they would prefer to live and I will guarantee you they will say Israel." This is a silly and ignorant arguement! Why? Because: (1) Israeli Arabs prefer to live in Israel for one BIG reason. Because it is THEIR homeland! (2) Given the opportunity, individual Israeli Arabs, might actually prefer to live in Europe or the US because that's also the places of choice for most Israeli Jews. It's the ECONOMY, stupid! (3) British and American Blacks also live MUCH better than their African brothers and sisters, but do you hear American Whites telling their Black neighbors to shut-up and be thankful for the American/British dreams? So, please stop comparing the lives of Israeli Arabs with the lives of their brothers and sisters in other Arab countries! But if you insist on doing that, then remember that YOUR quality of life is much better than those of your grandfather, so be thankful and be quiet!

  • 75. 0 0
    Israel and America
    • David King
    • 18.03.07
    • 13:09

    Israel and America, two countries, on one ship.

  • 74. 0 0
    # 70 Cipora Julianna Kohn
    • Swiss (Dino)
    • 18.03.07
    • 13:09

    Cipora, As I have stated in several of my posts (to the dismay of some...): In fact I do think that those 3 demands are quite reasonable ones and the new Palestinian governement would be very well advised to fulfill them.

  • 73. 0 0
    Model State?
    • Truth Seeker
    • 18.03.07
    • 13:07

    What rubbish! There is nothing democratic about Israel. Lebanon is a true democracy and Israel is hellbent on destroying it. That's just one example.

  • 72. 0 0
    A State Model of Racism and Apartheid
    • Benzion Zaretsky
    • 18.03.07
    • 13:01

    He must belong to the right christian zionists or have major political aspirations.

  • 71. 0 0
    model state
    • izaak
    • 18.03.07
    • 12:58

    in this generation israel is far from a model state with poverty corruption harshness and crimes in war . but who is better . sweden with its gutless heritage against the nazis and selling out to the rich belgium gutless in africa.they abandoned a compound in rwanda allowing massacres of women and children. armed men trained in war .

  • 70. 0 0
    #36, Dino
    • Cipora Julianna Kohn
    • 18.03.07
    • 12:52

    Three steps needed to start negotiations: 1 recognize Israel; 2 recognize previous agreements between Israel and the Palestinians; 3 renounce terror. Those are still the conditions of the Quartet and of the EU, as reported in Le Monde of 17/3/2007.

  • 69. 0 0
    # 60 PETER SM
    • Swiss (Dino)
    • 18.03.07
    • 12:50

    Don't ask me why, Peter, I do. And very much so. That's why I am preaching to the Palestinians to end their culture of violence and give their votes to people who support (real) democratic reforms like Mustafa Barghuti or Sari Nusseibeh. Just not sure, whether they will hear my my voice....

  • 68. 0 0
    For Yishuv # 53
    • Clickfool
    • 18.03.07
    • 12:50

    "the general has drawn a new line against those who abuse israel he tells the world that israel is of inestimable value to the usa.that cuts through a great many debates." Sure - we're going to pay a lot of attention, Yishuv, to the idiotic opinions of a man who calls the Israel a "model state". The only thing Israel models is pariahdom. This grunt general should stick to what he knows about - killing people.

  • 67. 0 0
    to chanaS
    • rose
    • 18.03.07
    • 12:45

    There is no such thing as a model-state. Every state has its woes. The current US and Israeli governments have 1 thing in common and that is a ( very ) rightwing view. But does that make 'em modelstates? I don't think so. BTW I am not saying that Israels neighbouring countries are modelstates either. They're obviously not.

  • 66. 0 0
    PURSUE/SEEK TO HAVE Democracy ANYWAY!
    • Proud Pal Defender
    • 18.03.07
    • 12:40

    I want to make very something clear. Especially if you read my other posts &/or think...for any reason...that because of the U.S.'s (UK's), Israel's, etc. example(s)...democracy is not worth it/should not be your objective. I Want To Tell Anyone Who Doesn't Have Democracy-- To have/seek it! DON'T LOSE HOPE...NOR BELIEF in Democracy...because of the U.S (UK), Israel, etc. Democracy-- IS THE BEST GOVERNMENTAL SYSTEM...because it is the best political/governmental/social system: that PROVIDES FOR (supplies) AND PROTECTS ANY/ALL human being's human & civil rights: From voting/being represented in your country (society) & government, your country's/your fate...to ensuring (making sure) that you receive justice in/protection from illegal arrests, etc. All Countries-- Have liars/criminals...who at times...get power/get elected (they usually lied/misrepresented themselves to do so). BUT Democracy-- REMAINS GOOD! Don't believe/accept anything less!

  • 65. 0 0
    what do non-military americans say?
    • arab
    • 18.03.07
    • 12:39

    now we know that israel is the model for american military which shows clearly in brave IRAQ. what about civil americans/ do they need an example set for them similar to iraq to probably know who is their model.

  • 64. 0 0
    'Model state? No, thanks'
    • JJ
    • 18.03.07
    • 12:37

    Europe, too, could have become such a specimen of stability -- if the world had accepted national-socialism as a supreme value, and verbal excretion from high-heeled generals as words of wisdom.

  • 63. 0 0
    How Stupid!
    • Paulo
    • 18.03.07
    • 12:37

    "Israel...encouraged democratic ideals and pro-Western values" - So taking over the territory of another people and continuing with an illegal occupation that relegates 5 million to the status of refugees is a 'model state'. A state which holds the number of UN Resolutions against it, outstripping Iran and North Korea put together, is a 'model state'! Well certainly a 'model state' for the US maybe - it gives us some insights into their recent policy decisions in Iraq and Afghanistan.

  • 62. 0 0
    OH NO, I think Syria, Lebanon and Jordan are MODELS
    • Albert Amato
    • 18.03.07
    • 12:22

    How in the world can anyone think that Israel is a model? All of these Muslim countries are so much better with human rights and womens rights. Right? WRONG. Come on people lets stop pretending that Israel is at fault. The moral high road is always taken by Israel and only the dim of wits will not understand that security against violence will always supercede that pitiful whine about "starvation". Give me a break. 100 million dollars could have bought a lot of food rather than weapons. I would like for all you ignorant,small-minded,chauvenistic, Neanderthals that criticize Israel, to take a good look into your soul and ask yourself.....why am I so damn prejudiced and jealous.

  • 61. 0 0
    Just one of you tell us how great the other ME countries are
    • The Equalizer
    • 18.03.07
    • 12:15

    To all of you pinheads like Click, Marilyn, and Ali Baba, PLEASE, rather than your usual rant about Israel and the treatment of the Palis, JUST once tell us why any other country in the ME is better and treats Jews and Christians better, who invents, innovates and has scientific and medical breakthroughs every and generally gives more rights to the Arabs than any Arab country gives to Jews. You bigoted and hypocritical, mealy-mouthed monsters cannot do it.

  • 60. 0 0
  • 59. 0 0
    26#MARILYN DOES A MANSON
    • alonitzafoni
    • 18.03.07
    • 12:08

    I WAS BORN IN ISRAEL A THOUDSAND GENERATIONS IMMEMORIAL,YOU SEE ITS NOT ONLY THE IMMIGRANTS FROM WHEREEVER THAT MAKE UP ISRAEL, AND OH YES THERE ARE ALOT OF THIRD-FOURTH GENERATION ISRAELIS YOU IGNORANT RETARD!!!

  • 58. 0 0
    General Craddock Speaks the Truth
    • Steve
    • 18.03.07
    • 12:06

    I thank General Craddock for speaking a truth that is rarely uttered out loud, but which every honest and unbiased person in the whole world knows: Democratic, dynamic Israel is the only light in the stupid, corrupt, fanatical, and hate-filled darkness of the Middle East.

  • 57. 0 0
    Israel and America:Strong Bond,Shared Values
    • Ronnie Wolman
    • 18.03.07
    • 12:04

    With what eyes can we see this,with what ears can we listen to this? With the eyes of the internationalist where every country is on par no matter what their own criteria is? With the ears of a someone who understands what discerns one culture from another? There is no doubt that people are people.That we are all the same and we all have the same potential but what seperates us is culture.It is the systems and laws.For this John Braddock is right and brave enough to say it. Israel's democracy has been tested for sure and continues to be.But it is vigorously defending against many surrounding countries that want to see the end of it.It IS a close ally of America in more ways than one Braddocks statement that Israel is 'a model state that encouraged democratic ideals and pro-Western values and economics' is right on. As much as certain people want to malign the State of Israel,Braddock understands deeply the depth of Israels relationship with America.

  • 56. 0 0
    I only say this, my friends...
    • Spoon
    • 18.03.07
    • 12:03

    VIVA ISRAEL! :-)

  • 55. 0 0
    Rose- which country is a model state
    • ChanaS
    • 18.03.07
    • 11:58

    in your eyes?

  • 54. 0 0
    general craddock "a critical military partner"
    • yishuv
    • 18.03.07
    • 11:56

    any questions?

  • 53. 0 0
    the general has drawn a new line against those who abuse israel
    • yishuv
    • 18.03.07
    • 11:54

    he tells the world that israel is of inestimable value to the usa.that cuts through a great many debates.

  • 52. 0 0
    THE GAME/PLAN: One Criminal Backs The Other!
    • Proud Pal Defender
    • 18.03.07
    • 11:54

    Have You Ever Seen People/Criminals Get Together Before They Get Arrested? What's The Objective/What Do They Do-- Collaborate. Lie. Reinforce each other. Present a united front. Tell THE SAME UNTRUE STORY! Here's The Example That Israel & The U.S.(Under Bush) Present For Us: Let's say Israel's acting as Child Molester. ...Its ally is currently one TOO. Well The Two Child Molesters-- Are both in hot water. ...ALL HAVE RECOGNIZED THAT THEY ARE perverts/child molesters. Well These Arrogant/Short-Sighted Molesters (Think The Rest Of Us Are Stupid)-- Have decided TO MANIPULATE THINGS & reinforce each other. Thinking That We Are Stupid-- They decide to come before us (like this commander)...& basically say...you know Child Molesting is fine. How-- By saying Israel (the Child Molester)...is a model state/AN EXAMPLE WE ALL SHOULD FOLLOW! These people are THE LOWEST OF THE LOW! REJECT THEM, Their Idea(l)s & PERVERSIONS! For ALL OF OUR Futures!

  • 51. 0 0
    MARYLIN Time to stop whinning.Set the right example.Go back to
    • PETERSM
    • 18.03.07
    • 11:54

    your colonialist ancestors come from. There you can start writing moral lessons to the Pals about sending their children to the front line,firing rockets at Israeli civillians and expropriating land Israelis lived on for centuries and trashing Synagogues and cemetries.

  • 50. 0 0
    Marilyn - 7th generation
    • ChanahS
    • 18.03.07
    • 11:53

    Your language, tone and anger and ignorance give you away. The genes of the your criminal ancestors that were spewed from the prison ships have survived through the generations. WHile others were obviously building new lives for themselves while killing and enslavng the natives, you seem to come from a long line of the unevolved.

  • 49. 0 0
    Marilyn - 7th generation
    • ChanahS
    • 18.03.07
    • 11:53

    Your language, tone and anger and ignorance give you away. The genes of the your criminal ancestors that were spewed from the prison ships have survived through the generations. WHile others were obviously building new lives for themselves while killing and enslavng the natives, you seem to come from a long line of the unevolved.

  • 48. 0 0
    Military aid? No, just self-serving
    • Regev
    • 18.03.07
    • 11:51

    Did someone forget to mention that the vast majority of US "military aid" can only be used to purchase military goods in the US? Goods that will "extend" Israeli democracy to its happy and welcoming neighbors. And I wonder if anyone noticed that the US does iunvest in Israel bonds? Could it be that to the US, Israel is like a prostitute, good for the moment, but not for marraige.

  • 47. 0 0
    arab neighbour
    • yishuv
    • 18.03.07
    • 11:50

    take your mind back to the pre 1967 war days when you would give israel no peace and made constant threats to its survival.we were not then in the west bank. yet your fedayeen were attacking us continuously and the arab states had never ending summits on ways to elimimate us. so what is your complaint now?that you have failed in your evil plans?

  • 46. 0 0
    Answer to number 20.
    • David Nigel Braham
    • 18.03.07
    • 11:48

    Take any Israeli Arab,Christian or muslim and ask him or her where they would prefer to live and I will guarantee you they will say Israel. Name me one Arab or islamic country which you or anybody could call a model country. I see it is easy for you to insult the state of Israel because you live in the US, try and live in a middle easten country,your ideas will change rapidly.

  • 45. 0 0
    palestinian brit
    • yishuv
    • 18.03.07
    • 11:45

    polls in britain show us the level of your betrayal of the land that has given you a home. iif you wish me to quote details of the polls it would be a pleasure.

  • 44. 0 0
    a palestinian brit
    • yishuv
    • 18.03.07
    • 11:44

    so you supported the pakistani brit train bombers?

  • 43. 0 0
    To #1 and John.Craddock
    • Vital
    • 18.03.07
    • 11:42

    Bravo John Craddock! Israel is a part of Western civilization, even more - Israel is a cradle of Western Civilization.Israel must have a strong army because she faces enemies from fanatic Arab world and Iran.Arab Leaders must understand a simple thing- Pal state is an obsolete idea, developed and supported mostly by USSR, and never will be realized.Arab Leaders missed their opportunities when they did not except UN Resolution in 1948. There is only one chance- Arabs under control of PA must establish own self-governing areas, like mini-states and work hard to become economically integrated with Israel economy, otherwise Arab population under PA will be in a bad shape, behind of all developed countries.

  • 42. 0 0
    # 14 Palestinian Brit
    • ChanahS
    • 18.03.07
    • 11:41

    What's it to you? Doesn't come out of your taxes. Aid to Israel is often in the form of investment (most has to be spent in the USA thereby helping some Americans keep their jobs). More importantly, much of the money pouring into Israel of late is truly investmet which is a vote of confidence in the Israeli economy. Now that sure as hell beats aid to the Palestinians (one of the hgiest per capita) which has so far either gone into someon'es bank account or down the drain... not a new factory, hospital or school to show for it (pleanty of weapons and tunnels tho). Each to his own, as they say, according to his values...

  • 41. 0 0
    a lot of the animosity for israel like that of jones
    • yishuv
    • 18.03.07
    • 11:41

    has much to do with overachievers causing jealousy.israel has fought the entire arab world and won.in 1973 the yom kippur war was won when israel was strategically surprised on two fronts. such a superlative performance does not cause others to love you. general craddock is different .he is an officer and a gentleman.

  • 40. 0 0
    model state
    • rose
    • 18.03.07
    • 11:40

    Well I do believe Israel is the US closest ally in the middle east. But to say Israel is a modelstate that's pushing it a bit too far...heck waaay to far.

  • 39. 0 0
  • 38. 0 0
    a nation like israel that has the measure of the entire
    • yishuv
    • 18.03.07
    • 11:35

    arab world is of no small value to the democracies. since israel was founded it has been holding the line against the barbarians. the barbarians now threaten europe.

  • 37. 0 0
    the general is frank and to the point
    • yishuv
    • 18.03.07
    • 11:32

    a nation with 350 f16s and f15s based in a region of strategic importance would inevitably be of great value to the western democracies. this is the region that is a threat to western europe to the extent those nations are now actively considering ways to counter middle east rocket fire.

  • 36. 0 0
    Yes, Israel COULD BE a model state....
    • Swiss (Dino)
    • 18.03.07
    • 11:31

    ....when it comes to values like freedom of speech, freedom of press, womens rights, economical success etc. If we take those issues alone, Israel is undoubtebly the "shining star" in the ME. Therefore, what a beautiful inspiration Israel could be to her neighbours and the rest of the world, if... ...yes, if only the words (political) wisdom, justice and diplomacy wouldn't exist. Unfortunately they do. So 3 steps more to reach "Nirvana". And they make all the difference between the words IS (a model state) and COULD BE.....

  • 35. 0 0
    UNDENIABLE TRUTH There are 20% Israeli Arabs and growing.Which
    • PETER SM
    • 18.03.07
    • 11:24

    planet are you a global citizen? Israeli Arabs with full political representation etc.etc.

  • 34. 0 0
    PALESTINIAN BRIT While Arabs/Iran spend Petro billions on weapons
    • PETER SM
    • 18.03.07
    • 11:21

    Israel needs some help to keep up with the Arab 5:1 advantage,that's without Iran. What is going to replace petro billions when the oil runs out or is substituted. Who are you going to blame when you cry peniless victims.

  • 33. 0 0
    This Man IS A LIAR! Israel NOR The US Are Model States Now! - 2
    • Proud Pal Defender
    • 18.03.07
    • 11:11

    IDEALS! No One Who Loves Their Country Wants To Have To Say These Things-- BUT, it's precisely because one loves his/her country THAT ONE MUST SAY IT! America has work to do to recover its ability to be an EXAMPLE/BEACON OF HOPE, RIGHTEOUSNESS & FREEDOM TO THE WORLD! DON'T let people like the man in this article, Bush & his administration...NOR ISRAEL...PERVERT/CORRUPT the ideals & provisions [that democracy brings (voting, rights, justice, obedience to the law, etc.]...that in the end...PROTECT ALL HUMANS...THE BEST AND THE MOST! Israel IS NOT a model state! God help us if this was our example of what a democratic (democracy) ideal/model state should be. The U.S. IS NOT a model state! God help us if Bush, etc. were anyone's example of what a democratic (democracy) ideal/model state should be...either. These People are MIRRORING/APPROVING EACH OTHER'S PERVERSION/CORRUPTION-- It takes one TO KNOW/APPROVE OF THE OTHER!

  • 32. 0 0
    to #3 Global Village
    • B'Galil
    • 18.03.07
    • 11:00

    Your ignorance of life in Israel is too much to ignore. First of all, Israel, unlike most if not all of it's neighbors, allows the freedom of all religions in it's territory. Second, the Native American comparison is just way too much - There isn't enough space here to teach you the difference so all I will say is read your history books and come here to Israel to see the reality of the situation before you open your mouth. Any segregation of people here is a consequense of the security situation. It is sad that these things are happening and as an Israeli I would like to see many changes, but when I hear people make idiotic comparisone based on their own ignorance, it becomes very frustrating.

  • 31. 0 0
    a us commander...
    • nothing more
    • 18.03.07
    • 11:00

    ...stroking his imperial nation's foreign auxilliary troops.

  • 30. 0 0
    Re:An Arab Neighbor.Just a littel information
    • e.m
    • 18.03.07
    • 11:00

    history: Market launches Israeli index American stock market launches index of Israeli companies on Monday, Canada only other foreign country with index. Index will include 73 Israel companies with net worth of USD 50 billion Kobi Paz Published: 11.20.06, 09:53 / Israel Money Israel will mark a historic moment in its economic history on Monday as the 73 Israeli companies currently being traded on NASDAQ are counted in a new Israeli index. Canada is the only other foreign country whose companies are monitored by such an index. The new index will include all the big names like Teva Pharmaceuticals, Check Point Software and ECI Telecom, and will allow Israeli companies greater exposure to both American and international investors, who will in turn be able to easily monitor the performance of Israeli stock. The net worth of the Israeli companies traded on the index stands at approx. USD 50 billion. Only one other such 'national index' has been launched in the past, when Canada earned the privilege in 2000, Israel is the second country to be honored with its own index. Out of the 73 companies chosen to be traded on the index, 38 are also traded in the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange. The index will be issued under two abbreviations: ISRQ and ISRX, the latter includes dividends. The makeup of the index will be updated once a year, in May. In the future NASDAQ may consider issuing an ETF for the index, which would allow direct investment in the Israeli index. Do you need more information Www Israeli Technology? Take you head out of sand

  • 29. 0 0
    This Man IS A LIAR! Israel NOR The US Are Model States Now! - 1
    • Proud Pal Defender
    • 18.03.07
    • 10:54

    Look-- All should know by now that anyone related to the Bush Administration DOES NOT represent anything but a CORRUPT DEPICTION of Democratic Ideals/Democracy. Let's Begin The List (Often Similar To Israel's List)-- Rampant Int'l Law & Human & Civil Rights Abuses/Violations: Torture/Abu Ghraib, secret detention centers around the world. Keeping prisoners off of the books so that the International Red Cross wouldn't find them. Various/widespread attempts to erode/rescind provisions of the Geneva Conventions & International Law. Guantanamo Bay. People & citizens: spirited of in the middle of the night (with no one knowing where they are being taken) held years without attorney, charge & trial. Pervasive abuse of civil rights under the Patriot Act...including wireless wiretapping of citizens. Etc. NEITHER Country At This Moment-- Are/Can be anyone's example...without STRIKING FEAR in the heart of millions who want FREEDOM/are looking for BETTER GOVERNMENT & SOCIAL!

  • 28. 0 0
    #16 SAMI IS FOR HUMAN RIGHTS FOR MUSLIMS
    • paul harris
    • 18.03.07
    • 10:54

    SO THE CAVE HE IS IN WILL CAMPAIGN FOR WOMANS EMANCIPATION AND FREEDOM FOR DHIMMIS !! OR AS USUAL WITH THE ARABS THE COFFEE HOUSE ARE ONLY FOR MEN ???

  • 27. 0 0
    Marilyn
    • Daniel
    • 18.03.07
    • 10:50

    Poor, poor Marilyn lost in Australia. All we hear from you is Hatred, Judeophobia, Israelophobia. Read history properly, learn to analyze, and ask your parents and teachers to give you a proper re-education... It will do much good to your judgment and vision of the world. Yes, Jews in Israel have learned to defend themselves. Yes, 70 years ago you would have collaborated with the Germans. No doubts there...

  • 26. 0 0
    Star of David
    • Marilyn
    • 18.03.07
    • 10:44

    I have agreed over and over again on this forum that Australia disgusts me with it's treatment of aborigines. However, I was born here as a 7th generation person, where would I go cretin breath? How any of this relates to the fact that Israel is a thuggish, apartheid, facist state beats the hell out of me.

  • 25. 0 0
    Supreme U.S. commander in Europe calls Israel 'model state'
    • kel
    • 18.03.07
    • 10:35

    Surprise, surprise. In case anyone ever had wonder y Israel is refered to as a state and not a country is that it is in fact our 51st state!!!! Explains a lot now doesn't it??

  • 24. 0 0
    Re: Sami.What cave have you coming from?
    • e.m
    • 18.03.07
    • 10:30

    He is a great commander. He is a well educated General with long time experience he is the man that devoted his life to defend for our country. You are an anti Semitism and anti American. Shame on you

  • 23. 0 0
    why don't you people learn more about Israel before writing trash
    • Pavel
    • 18.03.07
    • 10:28

    lest this forum remains a refuge for the ignorant. Haaretz has a responsbility to educate people by being even handed. Self criticism is important, but people outside of Israel do not understand how a brave IDF warrior can moonlight as a peace now adherent, for complex psychological reasons. OH, Marilyn, you are perfectly wrong.

  • 22. 0 0
    marilyn the sheila
    • bruce
    • 18.03.07
    • 10:24

    and our pauline Hanson bonks her deputy. Foreign minister Evans bonked the leader of the democrats, prime Minister Hawke bonked anyone when he was'nt drunk and Keating.. well you know. Suggest you THINK before you write such crap.Sheilas like you are such fuckwits.

  • 21. 0 0
    How much in his brown envelope for this judgment?
    • English Resident
    • 18.03.07
    • 10:22

  • 20. 0 0
    UNFAIR!
    • magdy
    • 18.03.07
    • 10:21

    We in Gaza are a model state. we have a vigorous democracy, we are a passionate people, we care about the vulnerable like women and children. sorry Mr Craddock you got it wrong.

  • 19. 0 0
    It is a big slap in the faces of lefties and Europeans liberals
    • e.m
    • 18.03.07
    • 10:17

    Thank a lot to General John Craddock for your honesty. You are the copy of Rudi Giuliani .You finally have said the true

  • 18. 0 0
    John Craddock - American Jackass
    • Clickfool
    • 18.03.07
    • 10:14

    "The supreme commander of NATO operations in Europe and head of the U.S. European Command (EUCOM), John Craddock, has called Israel a "model state" and the United States' closest ally in the Middle East." A state that encourages "democratic ideals"? Tell that to the Palestinians, who chose Hamas in a free and fair election, only to be punished by Israel and America for voting the "wrong" way. Perhaps he's unaware of the Starvation Blockade. Perhaps he's also unaware of the fact that Israel has a despised untermenschen, who have few civil rights and certainly no vote. Perhaps we shouldn't expect too much of military men, whose expertise lies in knowing the best way to kill people.

  • 17. 0 0
    US is not biased towards Arabs, But a total enemy
    • Abu Samra
    • 18.03.07
    • 10:10

    Craddock said Israel will receive this year more than 93 percent of the military aid in the EUCOM area - $2.4 billion out of some $2.54 billion for all of Europe and Africa. We know this fact, and Arab leaders soon will realize that US is a total enemy.

  • 16. 0 0
    THis man must be a great scholar on Israel!
    • Sami
    • 18.03.07
    • 09:46

    Shulamit Aloni says "we have become barbarians." Jimmy Carter says "Israel is an Apartheid." and Gilad Atzmoni says "Israel is worse than Germany in 1938"...And this little man is saying Israel encourages democracy? What cave has he been living in? Ah...it is "innocent abroad."!

  • 15. 0 0
    To Pope
    • Unemplyed Crusader
    • 18.03.07
    • 09:42

    "and Israel will never stop to exist;" Son, that's what we though until those crazy kurds, turks, and mamluks kicked our asses out. it's not the arabs you have to worry about, it the iranian and turks.

  • 14. 0 0
    No more aid for Israel needed then?
    • Palestinian Brit
    • 18.03.07
    • 09:41

    Good for Israel. Just what the world likes to hear...a model economy which doesn't need the help of the western world any more.!

  • 13. 0 0
    THANK YOU John Craddock
    • Neo-KKK
    • 18.03.07
    • 09:39

    Thank you John Craddock for speaking the truth about Israel. After all, those Ayraabs in west bank and gaza and refugee camps are not a product of any apartheid, that's a result of uhm...ah...well...

  • 12. 0 0
    Super model state
    • Cpt. Yossarian
    • 18.03.07
    • 09:35

    "Model state"? The supreme U.S. commander in Europe clearly doesn't live here.

  • 11. 0 0
    #5 Marilyn to the max
    • Star of David
    • 18.03.07
    • 09:31

    If there is anything delusional here, it is perhaps your mistaken confidence in your comprehension abilities. 6 people do not a country make. Or do they marilyn? I mean consider the corruption within the australian Liberals and the colorful characters from the labor camp. Has the country gone to rack and ruin? And of course, you and yours would know all about constant large scale land theft. Not sitting on Kaurna or Koori or Adnyamathana land are we? Very quick to cast aspersions my dear.

  • 10. 0 0
    US COMMANGER
    • colin
    • 18.03.07
    • 09:30

    Finally someone with a bit of honesty.General Craddock must be a compataent and truthful leader to say what he really feels.Maybe a bit of his trustworthiness will enter the reems of talks inthe U N and other anti-israeli organisations.Congratulations GENERAL CRADDOCK

  • 9. 0 0
    1: Arab Neighbor. So, which dictatorship do you live in?
    • David Teich
    • 18.03.07
    • 09:17

    Perhaps Egypt, which receives almost as much as Israel does, has an army larger than all other ME armies combined (including Israels) and practices war games against Israel? Maybe you're in Lebanon, a country that declared war in '48 and still regularly violated the armistice it signed in '49? Or maybe it's Syria, where your Baathis dictator slaughters anyone who disagrees with him? Oh, wait, it might be Jordan, where the dictator dismisses any govt he dislikes and is a foreigner who's daddy was given 80% of the Mandate by the Brits? Then again, you could be in Sudan, busy slaughtering people in Darfur. So, where is this place from which you have the gall to mutter about Israel?

  • 8. 0 0
    % THE MUST BE TOO MANY TREES IN OZ
    • paul harris
    • 18.03.07
    • 09:13

    AS THE ONLY WOOD YOU CAN SEE IS MARYLINS HEAD!! IN ADEMOCRACY THINGS CHANGE SO NEXT WEEK OR NEXT YEAR THINGS WILL BE DIFFERENT . AS USUAL WITH THE ANI CROWD ALLEGATIONS ARE PROOF SO LONG AS ITS AGAINST ISRAEL. WHAT DUNDERHEADS LIKE YOU DONT GET IS US POLICY WILL NOT CHANGE AND NO ARAB STATE CAN BE TRUSTED , THERFORE ISRAEL WILL BE SUPPORTED BY THE US NO MATTER WHAT .

  • 7. 0 0
    to An arab neighbor
    • the pope
    • 18.03.07
    • 08:58

    Dear friend, the aid will never stops and Israel will never stop to exist; and for you i would recommend to stop bigoting here and better take care of your homeland economy and welfware, which is in a very very poor state at your home as well as in the most islamic countries. It will be better for us and for you this way, believe me!

  • 6. 0 0
    MODEL STATE
    • ROBBINS
    • 18.03.07
    • 08:56

    " THE POWERFUL URGE AND POWER ..." IS AMERICA'S SUPPORT FOR FREE AND DEMOCRATIC SOCIETIES.... WHY AMERICANS DIED IN TWO WORLD WARS. IF ARABS LEARNED THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY, FROM IT'S VERY BEGINNING, THEY WOULD KNOW THAT THE UNITED STATES' SUPPORT OF ISRAEL IS NOT BASED ON LOVE OF JEWS OR HATRED OF ARABS, BUT A FUNDAMENTAL BELIEF IN THE RIGHTS OF MAN

  • 5. 0 0
    The man is mad
    • Marilyn
    • 18.03.07
    • 08:51

    Let's see - Katsav on multiple rape charges, murdering children by the IDF, Olmert on about 3% approval rating, no policy that anyone in the world let alone Israel knows anything about and constant land theft. Yep, a model of Europe alright. This man is almost as delusional as his stupid boss.

  • 4. 0 0
    General Craddock
    • Cipora Julianna Kohn
    • 18.03.07
    • 08:45

    Thank you for your service; and thank you for your support of Israel.

  • 3. 0 0
    Yeh? Lets set up a few more Segregated Communities then perhaps?
    • Undeniable Truth
    • 18.03.07
    • 08:43

    Yeh it makes complete sense. Israel is a model state! This is great news! Now all we need is set up a few more ethnically segregated communities. Hmmm, where should we start? Let's see...maybe a State for only black People....then only for white people (again)....oh what fun. Then perhaps the Native Americans.....Of course! Let's follow the model state of Israel's logic: We can put all the Native Americans back into Iowa, Idaho and Oregon.. (well they were there first afterall). We could even bulldoze the current residences homes down! Great idea! Mmm....Where next? The Moors! Yes. Let's put all the current Spaniards into controlled zones and bring back the Moors to the Iberian peninsula! A model idea indeed! Oh don't you just love globalisation?

  • 2. 0 0
    Amen!
    • Lavi
    • 18.03.07
    • 08:33

    "I will bless them that bless thee and I will curse them that curse theee!" Genesis 12:3

  • 1. 0 0
    What a Shame!
    • An Arab Neighbor
    • 18.03.07
    • 08:28

    "Craddock said Israel will receive this year more than 93 percent of the military aid in the EUCOM area - $2.4 billion out of some $2.54 billion for all of Europe and Africa." To give so much military aid to a state like Israel is such a shame.I wonder if all this aid, from the States + money from Jewish Americans, military from EUCOM, financial from the EU and especially Germany, if all this aid stops...what would happen to Israel!! Seize to exist? When I say seize to exist, I don't mean that 4-5 million Jews will all be killed. I'm just saying that the actual state of Israel will be no more. One thing the Arabs don't understand, this extremely powerful desire and urge in the US and Western world for Israel to exist, be supreme, and have the upper hand. Israelis have brought injustice upon the Pals by occupying and splitting apart their lands, now Israelis complain about the injustice brought upon them by the Pals!! and the holocaust, which the whole world has to pay for.