Study: U.S., Israel should begin planning strike on Iran nuclear sites

nevermind all this "will they-won't they/should they-shouldn't they" BS. It's gonna play out exactly as has already been planned and millions will die and the final outcome will be one world govt/currency/army etc.- [and, with only one army in the world, guess who the enemy is- an enslaved population which at present is unsuitably and unsustainably large].

why don't the Americans disposed their own nuke, first before telling them(Iran) to do so...if the US do that, it earn the right it self to tell anyone to do the same.we would be much safer if nobody have that kind of weapon

excellent post! everyone needs to fact check, not take another's word! Title: The Executive Committee of The Washington Institute Name: Clickfool City: Sussex State: England Check out the Executive Committee: President Howard Berkowitz Chairman Fred Lafer Chairman Emeritus Michael Stein Founding President and Chairman Emerita Barbi Weinberg Senior Vice President Bernard Leventhal Senior Vice President James Schreiber Vice President Charles Adler Vice President Benjamin Breslauer Vice President Walter Stern Secretary Richard Abramson Treasurer Martin Gross

Too many Jews on the Executive Board of the Washington Institute? I guess this is one more thing we control. Add this to the press, the world financials, the world this and the world that. Life must be tough being a Jew hater when every where you look those damm Jews are in control. I am so glad that Haaretz gives you a soapbox to stand on and get off your jollies.

I really hope all those who think that a nuclear Iran is barely a safety issue, don't cry a tear when 1 million more jews are killed in a nuclear explosion. Or when new york is uninhabitable 10 years later after a dirty bomb explodes.

America and Israel have the same interests. We are both being attacked by muslim terrorists. How did arabs end up in the holy land? They conquered it. Israel has conquered it from the Arabs. Boo Hoo.

If Iran is bombed to alleviate the paranoid fantasies of Israel and Bush, the United States will no longer keep the Israeli connection under wraps.

I would add that it would not just be "America`s right" but also its duty, not to mention the right and duty of other countries to do the same. But it`s always America that takes the lead and other countries reap the benefits-Eli You are so full of shit it is unbelievable. The analogy that you make with Third Reich is childish ignorance. Iran is not a threat to America. It may be a threat to Israel but it is of no concern to America. If you feel so strongly about it, get off your fat butt, go over, and join the IDF so you can join in the blood fest. Leave America out of it. America has no duty or obligation to Israel. Are you loyal to Israel or America? Your use of the term we in your # 201 make one wonder. American interests and Israeli interest are not the same. They, the Israelis only have regional self-serving concerns and no global responsibilities.

Morris Valentine Right or wrong, though, so what if WINEP is pro-Israel? In a democracy, don`t interest groups have a right to lobby their government.- Morris Valentine Yes they do. But when Jews subordinate their American citizenship to further the interests of a foreign government it takes on a different color. Pollard is a good example of this and a role model for you.

Iran must not be allowed to get nuks at any cost,if that involvs acting alone then is what is going to take.When Israel is at stake the rest of the nations opinions do not count.Israel must do whatever must do to secure the current integrity of the territory.No one said that freedom is free., there is a price to be paid and we must be prepared to do so.

Hello, Clickfool, You're right about at least one thing - WINEP is pro-Israel. Most (not all) of its Advisory Board is Jewish, so you're not quite right there. Some board members are neocons (Wolfowitz, Perle), some are not (Christopher, Schultz), so your suspicions about it being a neocon hotbed are at least partly off. Right or wrong, though, so what if WINEP is pro-Israel? In a democracy, don't interest groups have a right to lobby their government? There are pro-Arab lobbying groups in the US, too (for example, the Arab American Institute), and they have the same rights and opportunities to influence US foreign policy. Why the seeming phobia about Jews? Kind regards.

What you know and I know is like night and day but it doesn't matter. It's Bush's job. Not mine.

"Click flaunts his bigotry once again. Apparently an incurable obsession. He can`t abide the best man being chosen to fill a role, if he`s Jewish, that is." Every last member of the Executive Board of the Washington Institute a Jew? This represents nothing more than the "best man" being chosen? It's enough to make a cat laugh. Come on, Esther - this "think-tank" is nothing more than a not-very-subtle Zionist front organisation, an arm of the American Jewish Lobby, working the pedals for Israel.

including alleged negotiations with Al Qeida. It sadly does not matter that the vast majority of Iranians are pro western pro democracy while the Shiite Revolutionary guard and their masters hold the whip hand.They use the Israel issue in their power play for influence amongst Arabs.It only takes an escalation or miscalculation if they unleash Hesballa again for the consequences to be to say the least unpredictable.

don't come back posting under another name. Give us all the benefit of your expertise so we all spot the jew.

Some think tanks are extremely conservative and their thinking is clouded by an untenable frame of reference that belongs to an earlier era. Think tanks do not necessarily produce rational thought. Nuclear power of any kind is dangerous. Strikes on nuclear facilities risk radiation releases that would damage the entire region, perhaps to the point where it would no longer be habitable. This is not a future I wish on anyone. People who believe assaulting a nuclear facility is a viable option have not thought this action through.

so, what I'm posting is a bit garbled. Actually, my thoughts are garbled- I want peace but...everyone knows that Meca and Medina must go down-if this bloody Jihad doesn't end. But, these psychos blow up each others mosques-which they use as munition strongholds and war planning and staging areas-it's doubtful that Mecca and Medina means all that much to them. It's a good thing I am not in charge of security for my people. The suicide rate must really be high in the Muslim religion-that's how they get so many suicide bombers-it's their way out.

Naaah-just wait until iran has the bomb and really see if they'll use it; maybe it's just a bluff? Are you a betting man? (Get out the 3000 spf sunblock.)

As a father with kids in the military, I'd trust Dennis Ross before any of the neocons. He is rational; they are not. I have never seen him propose a policy that would almmost certainly kill off a bunch of Americans or Israelis or Palestinians or anybody else. Neocons don't give a rat's petoot about the lives of the US military, only what political booty the military can deliver.

It is nowonder that the guy you were talking with was confused about Iraq. For the first six weeks of the war and then every six months thereafter, there was a new reason given by the White House. The reason or staying changes every six months or so, too. I know why our military thinks it's there, but that has nothing to do with what White House spin says. White House spokespeople make Baghdad Bob look coherent. . . . and accurate!

God is not going to take care of Israel,the Jews,or the Western world-those potential Iranian nukes aras soon as possiblee pointing west. For me,I think the best move is to move U.S. troops out of Iraq and the ME, let the region take care of itself-If Israel feels threatened, let Israel decide to use nukes against Iran-as in the past-the universe will heave a big sigh of relief but first let the Saudis bleed for their support of all the terrorists in the Muslim world.Meca and Madina goes down.

...Change governments to one that can be trusted and not threaten Israel or other neighbors... Why don't you change your government first, dear Jane. Ahmadinejad hasn't given ordered to invade anybody, but your president Bush invaded other country without any provocation whatsoever and killed hundreds of thousands innocent civilians in the process. Words doesn't mean anything, only deeds that count.

...However he did not say anythihng about the book... I haven't read the book yet, but I think I rather convinced that Ross wasn't a NEO-CON. Besides, I believe in Clinton good intentions on peace in middle east. He would put his legacy at risk if he didn't know who Ross really was since the beginning. We knew Clinton wasn't as stupid as Bush in the matters like this. Although he failed at the end, we thanked him for done his best for middle east.

Nice try. In 1939 there was not threat to Germany by Poland. Still, if you look into the matter the differences between Poland of 1939 and Iran 2007 are so big they are above comparison. Poland had an army consisting of horseman and 19th century weapons and fought against modern tanks and strong air force. Iran’s army is equipped with the most modern weapons and the latest technology. Iran will have in very short time (now?) operational atomic bombs and missiles who can reach a range of 2000 km., bearing nuclear heads. If you station those missiles in the South of Lebanon (smuggled in parts) they can cover Europe as far as Strasbourg. From Iran they can reach as far as Greece. Olmert is a corrupted man, Bosh has other qualities but both of them are not mad, Achmadinejad is.

You sure ALL the anti-Iran posters were jewish?. "jewish ignorance" as opposed to--? Your intelligence? What is a "jew" according to you? Do tell don't just slink away

20 Jan 2009! I am so sure, that I have a substantial bet about it with my son. Why? because Bush is a "true believer" with a "God talks to me" insanity. He will order the attack without any permission or support from Congress or the American public. He absolutely does not care that it would get Israel destroyed and devastate the US and much of the rest of the world. Bush is vastly more unstable than Ahmadinejad and has much more power. So I fully expect that Israel will get its suicidal wish. Israelis should carefully consider the old cliche: "Be very, very careful what you wish for." Because the so-called God has a nasty sense of humor and often twists the wish, delivering very unintended consequences. What can go wrong does. Israelis should get out or live what is left of their lives as well as possible.

Arafat was alive when Dennis Ross' book was published. Arafat had an opportunity to say that the book was all lies. However he did not say anythihng about the book. Since Arafat was capable to reject the Clinton parameters at camp David he would also be very capable to tell President Clinton that he was not approving a Jewish mediator and Dennis would not receive that position. This is how that kind of diplomacy work. There is a letter of accptance that each side must sign.

I don't see how you can state that Israelis living in the United States that expect the U.S. to send their sons and daughters to fight Iran is any different than your American Witch hunt to capture Osama Bin Laden!!! Surely all AMericans were GUng Ho for the U.S. to attack Afghanistan because the Taliban was supposedly harbouring OBL. Yet you bombed a sovereign nation albeit run by lunatics, not your problem nor your business. However your government and people took it upon themselves to support this action. Why is it any less worrisome that Iran would possess nuclear capability?? Because they would hand the technology over to any group or country that agreed with them...Namely Venezuela?? Cuba?? Making sense yet Chris?

You write: "It is not beyond the realm of probability that it is a concerted effort, neither is it beyond the realm of possibility that it is orchestrated by a power with a vested interest. Why am I not allowed to comment in this context? Is it true?" But, see, Linthwaite, you are allowed on an Israeli website to claim that the Jews all get together and decide how to control the world. The "power with a vested interest" must be the Elders of Zion. For sure, Linthwaite, it must be so that the Jews are behind all nastiness in the world. We apologize for being such bores.

That you write that Israel proagandized the US into attacking Afghanistan is conclusive evidence that nothing you write has any validity. The US was attacked by a group given safe haven within Afghanistan and the US responded. But you probably think that the Mossad was behind 9/11. To make Moslems look bad.

Here in the US we have "plans" to attack everybody and anybody. The old plans are discarded and new ones made every week. We have whole military departments devoted to every conceivable sort of hypothetical war gaming scenario. That's what we do; sports and war games. Video games are just our unique way of indoctrinating little children into the war society. So Freilich thinks we should make attack plans. We have a hundred set of attack plans already, maybe more. Does somebody pay him to arrive at these stupid conclusions. I would love to have that job. In the eternal words of Bachman Turner Overdrive "...love to work at nothin' all day..." or Dire Straits "..Money for nothin' and your chicks for free..." Frielich should do something more intellectually stimulating. Start by flipping burgers. Peace. Steve

I am writing a book on the Middle East situation and when published I will be delighted to send you a copy. I have USA, Arab, and Jewish interests in mind and equally so. Usually, people do not listen until it is too late. For the sake of the Jews as human beings, I hope they will listen before it is too late.

cont'd...and no Iran would not supply the nuke (if and when they get it) to others, much the same way Pakistan is/won't do the same. Almost 90% of Pakistan population is Al-qaeda sympathizers where the Saudi money is flooded to train terrorists, yet you don't worry about them handing the nukes to the terrorists. Compare that to the 90% PRO-WESTERN AND PRO-AMERICAN population of Iran. What is contributing to the demise of the west is NOT shia Iran but the Wahhabi ideology that is rampant in our 'ally's' countries (ie. Saudi, Jordan, Egypt, Pakistan, etc). You really need to start thinking about the REALITIES before it is too late.

As I have mentioned MANY times on this article alone,NO, Ahmadi has NO POWER TO DO ANYTHING TO ANYONE/COUNTRY.I don't know if you are trully seeking knowledge here or just wanna vent your frustration,but I will address your points based on the 1st assumption.There is FUNDAMENTAL difference between Shias & sunnis. Everybody(hopefully by now) knows that majority of American soldiers are being killed by the Sunni militia(90%-based on UK & US MILITARY figures).So if you have a problem with that you should address it accordingly. I am not saying or endorsing what Iran is/can do in Iraq when it comes to its national security.But before you make such self-righteous conclusions get all the data you need(& not from FOX news). Like I said, I am no fan of the Iranian regime & I CANNOT believe you people's knee jerk reactions actually make the Iranian position seem sound & sane, but the truth is Iran has been acting more sane and logical than both US and Israel recently.

And what does that say about you, who finds "truth" in his words? For the record, Iran is on record calling for Israel's destruction, and is pursuing nuclear weapons for this purpose. Iran's leaders have made threats against Israel, saying openly they would use nuclear weapons to do the job. So Israel is right to feel an existential threat from Iran. The Iranians are the warmongers, Israel is the target of their warmongering.

What kind of people serve criminal psychopaths willing to lie to start wars for personal gain and profit? Germans in 1939, Americans in 2003, Israelis now? What is it about such people that they become devoid of the slightest taint of decency, honesty or humanity? How can a nation like Germany, the United States or Israel find itself the willing servants of depravity?

and sinking into the ludicrous. You make a lot of assumptions Linthwaite and present them as truisms. First you need to decide whether you are talking about Jewish influence or Israeli. You are a bit Schizophrenic about that. Second, you are assuming that Israeli and US interests do not intersect. As I said before, your thoughts border on the insane. I suggest you check yourself.

The EU seems to get their acts together, though late. The real problem at the UN are Russia and China. Like you I believe that the world cannot afford to let the islamic republic (no one here has a problem with state for 1 religion) to get nuclear weapons. Still bombing it should be the last resort.

about whether or not you are allowed to make a fool out of yourself is.... YES!

... need to sell stocks right before the Israeli operation! BTW, Iran cannot destroy Israel, they have no means to send troops to Israel's border, Syria will not risk getting involved (they are way too cautious), and Hezbollah is not strong enough. However, Iran will certainly respond to the bombing attack on its nuclear installations with terrorist operations against Jewish civilians, maybe via proxy Palestinian groups in territories.

Fact of matter is that no one seems to be listening when Iran says, she don't need a nuclear bomb for any purposes. One fallacy of current nuclear arm nations is lack of imagination, "Mutual Assured Destruction" is not a exclusive means which only they can muster at will, several dozens nations already have infrastructure and ability to produce and field the other two weapons of WMD by virtue of having Pharmaceutical and Petrochemical industries and R&D's, when an individual can threaten a nation with few Anthrax laced envelope then why you can't assume a nation with all her resources can't do more when her cities are radiating from nuclear attacks, when it comes to MAD doctrine, it doesn't matter if it's done with radiology or biology, either way our planet would be uninhabitable, Peace out!

If as you say, Ahmadinajad has no war or foreign powers - why does he talk about the destruction of Israel? Also, there are Iranian revolutionary guards in Iraq, training terrorists how to kill American soldiers, and in Lebanon and Gaza strip. And they supply weapons of course. How do you explain that? Wouldn't they supply nukes as well?

Israel will not ask and does not need the United States to put an end to any threat it sees as existential. Israel acted alone in 1980 when it destroyed Iraq's Osirak atomic reactor. Israel acted alone in 2007, when it destroyed Syria's atomic reactor in Dier ez-Zor. And Israel will, without hesitation, destroy every Iranian nuclear facility it possibly can, from Anarak to Yazd, once again acting alone. I have no crystal ball or psychic insight which allow me to predict this - only history. That, and an appreciation of the Jewish people's unwillingness to face another Holocaust. The world will howl, as it has before, when Israel acts to save itself. But Israel needs no "by-your-leave" from the US, the UN, or the legion of yapping anti-Israel posters on this website, to do exactly that. And I, for one, will be glad when Israel puts an end to the evil game of the chess-masters of Tehran. MV

227Persian Kitty re Rob 212: No answer to my specific Question. I speak 4 languages too, and I have been to Iran, but a straight answer in English would be enough. I do admire your stand, understand your situation, but do not share your wishful thinking re rational/irrational future acts of Iran.

Well, of course, Dennis Ross is going to say that. How naive can you be?You think he's going to put in his book that sending a Zionist to negotiate peace between Israelis and Palestinians was destined to failure? Get real.

I'm no fan of ahmadi and his regime. I also don't get replies such as yours, I had already made both those points in my first post. And I don't know how many times or exactly in how many languages do I have to repeat, NO AHMADI WILL NOT USE ANYTHING ON ISRAEL OR ANY OTHER COUNTRY, HE HAS NO WAR AND/OR FOREIGN POLICY POWERS. I can speak four different languages, please let me know if I need to repeat the above in any other. Thank you.

Freilich is an Ira Weiner Fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. Although born in the United States, he immigrated to Israel while a young teenager. Eventually he rose to Israel's Deputy National Security Advisor, serving under Premier Ariel Sharon. Washington Institute for Near East Policy is not a wholly American organization and is seen by most objective observers to be a pro-Israel organization. Just look at the makeup of their board.

--" But he also seeks a dialogue on how to live with a nuclear Iran." How does that fit in with your posts?

Israel is having trouble dealing with a bunch of idiots with basement made rockets.I think there is a problem in leadership somewhere.

you wrote----"I pray that you will one day at leas realize that we are human beings like you" I hope that you too will come to see Palestinians as human beings like you.

Agreed with Afghanistan we went after the people who killed Yanks, Brits and Canadians amongst many others on 9/11. So if you are Israeli in Israel voicing concern about reported Iranian threats not bothered about that. It is the right of citizens of a nuclear armed country to voice concerns. However, if you are Israeli in the United States you should be made to make that known before calling on American citizens to send their Sons and Daughters into harms way to further another country's national interest. It is afterall like me saying to Canadian Citizens that we need your Sons and Daughters to invade france because they have nuclear weapons that could be aimed at Britain. We were afterall at war with each other in the 14th century.

you wrote----"People that make such idiotic comments like "Jews coming out of their foxholes" " demanding war on Iran". Where do you see a public outcry from Jews wanting to wage war on Iran?" Larry, you must not have read any of these threads lately. Of course they do not want to wage war on Iran.They want the USA or France or the EU to do it for them. Please spare us the fake Naivety.

I do not know which 'think tank' is involved this time and who that Freilich fella is although it is a safe bet he is Jewish. Many Washington conservative think tank are swarming with 'landsmen' who drool over the prospects of an American Israeli one-two punch to knock out the Iranian nuclear menace. If Iran is going to retaliate, the US will escape minimally damaged. A barage of several well aimed hundreds of missile will set Israel back for many years and will not be well tolerated by its citizens. The last think Israel needs is an advise and proddings from hotheads.

Israel needs to be a strong country. Why?? Not to suppress Palestinians who were against having Jews there sharing the country to which they have never been linked from the dawn of time. Not to be forced into wars to defend its existence, only to capture land to be used as a bargaining chip against its sworn enemies. No Israel needs to be a homeland for Jews because of people like you Chris Linthwaite. People that make such idiotic comments like "Jews coming out of their foxholes" " demanding war on Iran". Where do you see a public outcry from Jews wanting to wage war on Iran? No they simply are concerned about its constant very international and vocal threats against Israels existence. I remember Americans begging for Arab blood when 9/11 happened. Seems that you were not fooled then and invaded Afghanistan, Iraq, and are fighting a war on terror. Perhaps the security establishment needs to consult with you so you know the real lengths and depths these lunatics will go to kill Yanks!!

I saw what I saw and heard what she said. She said it on News 24 which I have on because of a story about a teddy bear called Mohammed I have a right to question what she said in the context of this talkback. I also have the right to make my interpretation of what she says. In this context there appears to be a concerted effort to push for unilateral sanctions against Iran from people who follow a particular political agenda. It is not beyond the realm of probability that it is a concerted effort, neither is it beyond the realm of possibility that it is orchestrated by a power with a vested interest. Why am I not allowed to comment in this context? Is it true?

That was the best POST i'VE READ ON hAARETZ. i'M PASSING THIS TO EVERYONE. sHALOM!

For trying to bring intelligence to the jewish ignorance. If the US can't even win in Iraq against the insurgents, what chance do they have against Iran.

It is clear that you don't have the slightest idea about how the US political system works, nor what role Jews play in it. Jews were one of the groups that LEAST voted for Bush in the last election. It is also very common for immigrant groups to support their origin countries morally and financially (for example, Mexican-American send billions of dollars in remittances to their families in Mexico, and Indian-Americans do the same with theirs). Jewish are probably the most mobilized group on protesting the Darfur genocide, and Israel has received hundreds of Darfurian refugees - this while most of the world does absolutely nothing. Do you know any Jews? If you do, I bet you will say "no, but they are different from the American ones"! "They don't have claws and hook-shaped noses"! The reality is that you are either a victim of the fascist mind-control of your government or a consciously racist person. I pray that you will one day at leas realize that we are human beings like you

I totally agree. Its easy to luv Iran as a peaceful neighbor when you live in suburban USA.

First, accusing Jews of getting everyone else into wars is part and parcel of British antisemitism. During World War II they called it "a Jewish war" and blamed it on the Jews. (Orwell, "Anti-Semitism in Britain" in Essays, Everyman's Library, 2002, p. 849). As Orwell pointed out, with his usual concrete good sense, antisemitism is an irrational thing, so any attempt to counter it with facts and statistics is useless. (ibid., p. 849). One characteristic of British antisemites Orwell found especially interesting is that "they will go to remarkable lengths to demonstrate that they are NOT anti-Semitic" (emphasis in original). (ibid., pp. 850-851). There is an "unwillingness to admit sharing it." (ibid., p. 850). The more things change, the more they stay the same, I guess.

Persian Kitty Did Ahmadinejad ever say "Israel"? Except, may be, "so called Israel". Thus when he calls for destruction of Zionist Regime he clearly means the state of Israel. And do you really believe he won't use his first available nuke for that?

"Iran insists its nuclear program is peaceful" ...that's what the CNN newscaster said, as the screen showed an Iranian cleric delivering a speach in front of hundreds of people waving their arms in the air, chanting "death to Israel!" If Iran is peaceful, why are Iranians required to chant "death to Israel" at political rallies, soccer games, or Mosques? Why do they train and arm Hezballah and Hamas? Hold forums on "a world without Zionism"? Why did they send Hezballah to attack a Jewish community center in Argentina, and TO BLOW UP A PLANE IN PANAMA, KILLING MY UNCLE AND NEIGHBOR? They are trying to kill the Jews right now, and have done it already! Wake up Israel! No to Iranian nukes. A thousand times NO!!

171Clickfool believes in Iran's right to topple the "Zionist" regime. But, on the other hand he says: "Perhaps the Iranian people want their "mullahs". What business is it of America`s what regime they opt for? Do you believe it is America`s right to use war to topple any regime they don`t like?"

Jews, unlike you are not comatose. They read, write, and think and are involved in all aspects of life. That Sarah Mendelsohn wrote what she wrote (if true, I have not seen it)does not necessarily reflect Jewish opinion and may even reflect non Jewish opinion. To draw such a sweeping and broad conclusion by an article from a Jewish person is the height of stupidity which I am certain you are unaware of it yourself, otherwise you would not have posted that which you have posted. And linking it to the Russian elections which are implied to be legitimate by your post?

Strange policy ! Israel has over 200 WMDs and is an aparthied power stealing Palestinian land. Not a whisper of protest. Iran has a nuclear programme and all hell breaks loose! What can you expect if the US-Israel axis attacks Iran. No point in aerial bombing, you need troops of occupation and when the Iranians rise to resist? The US and Israel can expect a ruinious war.

Click flaunts his bigotry once again. Apparently an incurable obsession. He can't abide the best man being chosen to fill a role, if he's Jewish, that is.

You are right about writing in foreign language on an English speaking forum. It is not very polite. My excuses. I assume that many people would not like to know what I wrote in Dutch. As for Ahmadinejad, the mad man of Teheran, I’m afraid he is not to be stopped. There are too many factors that keep him going a) his allies China and Russia and b) all the countries and multi-nationals who are making substantial profits by trading with Iran. The world leaders like to play Russian Roulette and wait what he is doing next. A poster named Marwan gave excellent description on todays political situation.

Unfortunately, being familiar with Iranian technical prowess, AND ESPECIALLY after the brain drain of the last 27 years, the nuclear first strike will be self inflicted by the Iranians upon themselves when they attempt to assemble and test their weapons. Another possibility is that they will never get to the point of assembly or detonation because they will manage to somehow contaminate their nuclear sites before they even get to the point of assembly or detonation. Sad but true.

I admit with your words: it’s time that you (Israeli) take care of your own problems. Every respectable nation or person has to take care of his (it’s) business. Our founding fathers decided to escape the East European pogroms and rebuild their ancient homeland for their children. Their intention was to build a normal country in the midst of a swamp and desert sand- Not a copy of Sparta. America’s interests are linked to oil, market and lot of money for the rich upper class. No American soldiers are dying for ideals.

http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=12059

1. What many of the posters refuse to acknowledge is that neither the American People, nor the European People, will permit a unilateral strike on a peaceful Iran. 2. Iran can pursue its nuclear ambitions, including uranium enrichment, provided that Iranian research remains peaceful and within the borders of Iran. 3. But, certain entities appear to be preparing an initial strike in anticipation that Iran will then retaliate. Iran's retaliation will then be used as justification for a massive assault on Iran. 4. However, I repeat that the American People will not permit any type of involvement by American military forces unless Iran delivers the initial blow against American forces in a neutral setting. 5. Only those who never do any actual fighting are in favor of perpetual war.

I am aware of it but chose not to cite it because there are many other reports with the same portrayal of events including this quote by Sharon to Bush: "We want to point out that WE live in the neighborhood and must deal with the consequences of an invasion after your troops leave Iraq". Of course Bush was either not listening or what Sharon told him was above the comprehension limits of his diminutive mind. Israel was always frightened by change of regimes in the ME. As Israelis we always rather deal with the enemies we know and not the ones we do not know. Hafez Assad was one such "enemy". We respected him and he always kept his word/agreements. Saddam was an idiot but one that we could contain and live with.

was Israel's nuclear facility, Dimona (and any other nuclear facilities in Israel) rattled by the recent earth quakes? Have any safety precautions been put in place, and how sure are Israeli authorities that any such safety precautions will work, when the big one comes?

"This above is in response to your comment noted below: "Do you believe it is America`s right to use war to topple any regime they don`t like?" Clickfool I would add that it would not just be "America`s right" but also its duty, not to mention the right and duty of other countries to do the same. But it`s always America that takes the lead and other countries reap the benefits." I don't think you have the smallest comprehension of how mindlessly aggressive and stupid this is. Each country is a sovereign entity. Nobody elected the USA as "World's Policeman", with the right to impose ITS view of how countries should be run. This is pure American arrogance. Andf in practical terms, America is pathetically inadequate as a World Policeman. It is about as subtle as a kick up the arse in its foreign dealings, and totally inept.

"The reason to prevent Iranian acquisition, then, is rather simpler. It is that the theocrat regime might *not* be rational, and can`t be trusted to be deterred at all from using (or exporting) any toys it has at its disposal. Not a risk worth anybody`s taking." I don't buy this, Solon. If this were a valid reason, American would or should be bombing the crap out of Pakistan right now.

Sarah Mendelssohn has just linked the elections in Russia which is likely to annonce Vladimir Putin as Prime Minister, to Russia's stance on sanctions between Israel and Iran. Mendelssohn who is a part of the Washington Centre for Strategic Studies went further stating that democracy in Russia was over (strange as they have just had an election) and that the West should seriously consider reducing ties with Russia. Which fits pretty neatly with Israel's view to impose sanctions on Iran on a unilateral basis, ignoring the United Nations. Dual nationality Jews who had been quite before Annapolis are coming out of their foxholes in the States to demand war on Iran, as if expecting payment for Israel attending Annapolis. Except this time we will not be fooled.

American jews see american army as a toolbox for israel and american people as mercenaries who should fight for Israel. They even say this explicitly that they prefer Americans attack Iran rather that Israel. It is a pitty than a nation of 300 million are so passive to the manipulation of a jewish lobby who doesnt care about interest of Americans people at all. What next? maybe they shold invade syria and then pakistan and then other countries to protect this bunch of Israelis who cry victimhood.

I didn't say the US or any other country should topple the Iranian mullacracy. I believe their are many Iranians who don't enjoy living under a totalitarian death cult and they will be the ones who get rid of it. Once they threaten Israel or the US which they have done it is within reason that there will be an answer to those threats. One way or another.

Yes iran is a good neighbor. Thats why you live in Boston I suppose.

I went back and found this by Walt and Mearsheimer.I thought it only fair to point it out. "Although neo-conservatives and other Lobby leaders were eager to invade Iraq, the broader American Jewish community was not. Just after the war started, Samuel Freedman reported that ?a compilation of nationwide opinion polls by the Pew Research Center shows that Jews are less supportive of the Iraq war than the population at large, 52 per cent to 62 per cent.? Clearly, it would be wrong to blame the war in Iraq on ?Jewish influence?. Rather, it was due in large part to the Lobby?s influence, especially that of the neo-conservatives within it." Here is the link if you care to read it.It is long but interesting. http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/mear01_.html

your lopsided views leave us all in wonder that stupidity could be so profound. if iran retaliates you can kiss the world goodbye because israel and the usa will use nuclear weapons ! lets hope the mad mullahs understand that allah will not save them !

Not sure if you got down to the end of my post but let me remind you again what Godeon levy wrote at the time.I seem to recall the US advising Israel to display less enthusiasm for the reasons stated by Levy. "As the journalist Gideon Levy observed at the time, ?Israel is the only country in the West whose leaders support the war unreservedly and where no alternative opinion is voiced.? In fact, Israelis were so gung-ho that their allies in America told them to damp down their rhetoric, or it would look as if the war would be fought on Israel?s behalf." Glad to hear you did not support it, but have to disagree on Israeli administration,s support for it.

the world supported toppling Saddam. That was not the thrust of my post. The thrust was that the Government of Israel DID NOT. All the people and their opinions that you had cited were not part of the Israeli Government. I for one did not support the war. Please cite me as an opposing Jew next time and see how much that matters.

Israeli leaders were deeply distressed when Bush decided to seek Security Council authorisation for war, and even more worried when Saddam agreed to let UN inspectors back in. ?The campaign against Saddam Hussein is a must,? Shimon Peres told reporters in September 2002. ?Inspections and inspectors are good for decent people, but dishonest people can overcome easily inspections and inspectors.? At the same time, Ehud Barak wrote a New York Times op-ed warning that ?the greatest risk now lies in inaction.? His predecessor as prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, published a similar piece in the Wall Street Journal, entitled: ?The Case for Toppling Saddam?. ?Today nothing less than dismantling his regime will do,? he declared. ?I believe I speak for the overwhelming majority of Israelis in supporting a pre-emptive strike against Saddam?s regime.? Or as Ha?aretz reported in February 2003, ?the military and political leadership yearns for war in Iraq.? As Netanyahu suggested, however, the desire for war was not confined to Israel?s leaders. Apart from Kuwait, which Saddam invaded in 1990, Israel was the only country in the world where both politicians and public favoured war. As the journalist Gideon Levy observed at the time, ?Israel is the only country in the West whose leaders support the war unreservedly and where no alternative opinion is voiced.? In fact, Israelis were so gung-ho that their allies in America told them to damp down their rhetoric, or it would look as if the war would be fought on Israel?s behalf.

First of all, please stick to the English language on an English speaking forum, very rude to do otherwise. I understand what you are writing there, but others don't. Secondly, we are dealing here with AhMADinejad, a MAD man who will push the wrong button if attacked by anyone, but especially by Israel, his "BIG" enemy. We should be afraid of the biggest idiot walking around on our planet.

Anybody who thinks that war planners in the USA, Israel and Iran have not already sketched out various war scenarios and plans is delusional.

There seem but two possibilities: Mullah regime is willing to risk suicide or it is not. If it is - if it is apocalypes-seeking - then it cannot be permitted to possess wmds, and all such capacity, along with all capacity to retaliate after a first strike, must be destroyed in a *comprehensive* first strike. If the regime is not apocalypse-seeking, it still cannot be trusted to possess wmds, which it will likely funnel to terror orgs, but at least can be dissuaded from retaliation against more limited first strike - namely by threat of second, third, etc. strikes. Either option can readily be handled by the civilised nations acting in concert, 'civilised' here having nothing to do with ethnicity. Question appears to be simply which of these two courses of action to take.

Once again EU and UN show that they are useless when it comes to dealing with the threat of attack by a rogue regime. Just like the failure of the League of Nations to stop the Nazi threat, the EU and the UN are too busy bickering over trivial details and unable to enough resolve to stop the madman or Tehran. Just remember the words of Winston Churchill about the pre-WWII leaders - "They had a choice between honour and war. They chose honour and got war." Bombing Iranian nuclear facilities now will prevent a much more deadly conflict later.

aggressive and are a threat to world stability. I don't think you would argue about the "elected" leader of the third reich, would you. Unless, of course you have a bit of Chambelain in you! This above is in response to your comment noted below: "Do you believe it is America`s right to use war to topple any regime they don`t like?" Clickfool I would add that it would not just be "America's right" but also its duty, not to mention the right and duty of other countries to do the same. But it's always America that takes the lead and other countries reap the benefits.

You don't know anything.

'If it is being overrun by Arab armies it could threaten nuclear obliteration on the homeland of the invading armies if these are not halted. This threat ceases to be possible if the invading armies are from a country which has its own nuclear deterrent.' Er, not exactly, Click. As an overrun by Arab armies would be at least as horrid as - and likely moreso than - the quick annihilation of a nuclear attack, the Israelis would be no less apt to threaten use of nuclear weapons to deter attack before than after acquisition of such weapons by Iran. Would-be attackers, if rational and thus deterable at all, quite know this, and so the Israeli nuclear deterrant remains at least as plausible post as pre any Iranian acquisition. The reason to prevent Iranian acquisition, then, is rather simpler. It is that the theocrat regime might *not* be rational, and can't be trusted to be deterred at all from using (or exporting) any toys it has at its disposal. Not a risk worth anybody's taking.

If Israel touches Iran --Israelis should expect to kiss the Middle East goodbye as they surely will have no future there. In addition, Israel has no right to dictate or bully another nation. That's the real reason Iran spoke out against it and condemned it. Hence it pays to get along and be a good neighbor. Dutch

Serious international lawyers and others like me know any Iran attack will set of WW III. Such loose talk is irresponsibly insane and seen for the malicious propaganda it is. What so called think tank is responsible for this madness? Has this paper and the subjects no courage to ID these reckless parties? Stop hiding or quit threatening the world. HB

76Spyguy part 2: Did Zionists ethnically cleanse Jews from Arab countries? You wrote: ?The Zionists were correct that Jews needed a place where they could be safe after WW2, but?instead of ethnically cleansing the ME."

12% of US oil comes from venezuela. Mostly in the form of home heating oil. The balance of US oil comes from Canadian sand fields and Mexico. Contrary to popular belief it is the EU and China who have the most to lose.

Esther was necessarily referring to age.

Elvis has left the building! :)

We can be one scary bunch, since we are the majority.

I sympathize with Israel, but it's time that you take care of your own problems. Your founding fathers decided to build a Sparta in the midst of a swamp. I don't want a single American to die for this if it is not in America's interest ie. cheap oil with little casulties. And to the American Zionists - please sign up your kids for this duty instead of watching Fox news while some small town young man does the job for you. Putting a bumper sticker on your SUV is not enough. Best of luck Isreal, I'll be keeping my fingers crossed.

with Israeli policy. The fact is that both Wolfowitz and Perle are persona non grata within the Israeli establishment. Their advocacy for war in Iraq was contrary to Israeli policy for both political and strategic reasons. "The warning against an invasion of Iraq was 'pervasive' in Israeli communications with the administration", according to Lawrence Wilkerson, a member of the Policy Planning Staff at the State Department. The opposition to the war was "conveyed to the administration by a wide range of Israeli sources, including political figures, intelligence, and private citizens", according to Wilkerson. Perle and Wolfowitz are fringe elements and in no way acted in Israeli interests. Sharon refused to meet with them, and Sharon's underlings had heated debates with them, and other non-Jews, about their suport of the Iraqi invasion. Even George schultz, a non-lover of Israel but who was privy to the discussions about the war on Iraq, supports Wilkerson's take on events.

Think tanks is quite the term to describe this bit of propaganda bull.Like any American or Israeli involved in politics can think.What at load of crap. I love reading these responses here on Ha'aretz the best. Om my god Iran is evil , blah blah blah, the holocaust is going to happen again, blah blah blah, all muslims are terrorists, blah blah , Ahmedinejad is Hitler, blah blah blah,Israel wants peace yadda yadda yadda , what a load of crap.Get over it, the sherade is done. no one cares f off. you bunch of idiots. you guys are the real problem for peace in stability in the world not Iran or Iraq or the Taliban or even fricking Al'queda. your governments have created more death and destruction than anyone else could possibly imagine.

"I hope the Iranian people will do just that. Rather than go to war just get rid of the mullahs." Perhaps the Iranian people want their "mullahs". What business is it of America's what regime they opt for? Do you believe it is America's right to use war to topple any regime they don't like?

"Which country can launch a credible conventional attack on Israel?" None at the moment, Gaoni. But everywhere in the Middle East the forces of Radical Islam are rising, and ten years down the line the whole region will have been transformed. The military dictatorship in Egypt will fall, the puppet king in Jordan will be gone, America will be out of Iraq and even the corrupt feudal regimes in Saudi Arabia and the Gulf may have fallen. Israel cannot be certain that it will face weak Islamic forever - the reason it needs its nuclear monopoly, its final insurance policy in extremis. This is what the campaign against Iran is all about.

Don't talk nonsense! The first Nuke over the Reichstag!To get even. We haven't forgotten anything.And a few others over Iran To obliterate it from the face of the Earth. The nerve this half monkey half man from Iran threatened to wipe ISRAEL off the map.The days of Iran are short-lived.

I imagine that if they were on the verge of defeat, they would. For Israel, defeat means annihalation. I don't doubt that an Arab military victory over Israel would lead not only to the end of Israel as a nation but to the slaughter of millions of its Jewish inhabitants.

I don't see any reason why Iran shouldn't be allowed to deveop nuclear power. The problem is that because their government are such blow hards no one believes they are only going to produce electricity. Solution? Change governments to one that can be trusted and not threaten Israel or other neighbors. I hope the Iranian people will do just that. Rather than go to war just get rid of the mullahs.

76Spyguy Would US have taken in 1.5 Million Jews from Arab countries? Quoting you: "The Zionists were correct that Jews needed a place where they could be safe after WW2, but they should have pushed the US to let them into the US instead of ethnically cleansing the ME." And can you turn back the clock to before the 1989 Quake?

He may have been born in Canada but his parents or grandparents were probably not. By your answer, I understand that it is OK for all Jews who were born in Israel in the last 60 years to remain there. This is the majority. As to your clever remark about sunburns, you should know that the majority of Jews in Israel are Sephardic, and originate in the middle east or North Africa.

Please, this does not prove your case! Egypt is out of the picture. There is peace, albeit a cold one. Syria is impotent. Which country can launch a credible conventional attack on Israel?

67Steve Are YOU sure that Ahmadenjad won't drop his 1st nuke on Israel? Same question to Darius, who must know why he prefers to live in Australia - his religion is NOT tolerated in today's Iran.

Just to complete my last note. ALL of this will eventually result in a much safer Israel. One that has normal relations with its neighbors and fits in its own space without claims that inflames others. Why the fuss then? The new Israel will have people in power that do not include most of the current elite.

How can anyone with a brain in their head interpret a comment like " Wiping Israel off the Map" to mean the Israeli regime (Israel is not a regime!!). Ahmanutjob supports Hizballah, Hamas, and every terrorist that will do its bidding. Supplying Syria and Hizballah with offensive weapons has nothing to do with its own security. Israel can in no way threaten Iran due to its distance. Israel has never threatened Iran and knows that "winning" a war against Iran is impossible. However allowing a "lunatic regime of Insane Islamist Nutjobs" to have a nuclear capability is very very dangerous. Today the enemy is Israel, tomorrow they are calling France their enemy for not allowing women to wear headscarves. Islamic fundamentalism, which Iran supports is a dangerous movement which Iran readily supports with its Petro Dollars. Therefore without oil or a threat to impede the flow of oil, the U.S. would have attacked Iran a long time ago and brought down their regime of insanity.

The USA has decided that for its strategic interests Iran muat become nuclear capable. This of course will be denied at all costs, even with talk of war and "all options on the table" etc. The Israeli leaders have been scared to death from this so they put their machine to work. No lcuk. So, they aqueeze harder. The result a new book on Israeli lobby for the average American to read and learn. and now ACTS OF DESPARATION like this. REALITY.

57El-Birawi So Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Bolton, Rice are all Jewish? Quoting You: "American NeoCons Jews at again. Having succeeded in getting the US in the big mess in Iraq." Trying to spread a bit of Antisemitism?

...conventional forces, would they use nuclear force?

Like I said before, the truly strong don't enjoy using their "big sticks" and only do so out of absolute necessity. Israel and the US are not on the offensive. They will however, stop an offensive in its tracks!!!

Wow, what a shocker, the propaganda front for the Jewish Lobby, WINEP is dictating to the American leadership that they need use the US military as canon fodder for Israel's regional goals. Sounds awfully familiar. How about an alternative suggestion, how about America attack its own fifth column instead.

the most important of which is that it will only postpone the inevitable, but will inflame the Iranian people. The issue with a nuclear Iran is the Regime, not the people. A systematic plan for sabotage and destabiliztion of the regime must be put in place and carried through. The Iranian opposition has been begging for this type of assistance and instead the West is spinning its wheels with ineffective conferences and UN resolutions.

Another "American"... It looks like America is made up only of this kind of Americans. At least on Haaretz...The others call themselves John, Bob, Dick, etc.

Ok for those needing a little bit more persuation to see the light. Think about the above. If still not sure about what I mean, here is a tiny hint? Do US sanctions on Iran mean anything to a Dubai based company? -------- PS: Name the former president of Halliburton? Hint: He is the one man Israelis are hoping to push their war forward. -------------- Still not seeing the light? Go see the President of Syria. He is an opthalmologist.

"Invite You To See the Make Up of The Board Of advisors" Thanks, Eli - I noticed the names of archetypal neocons in there (Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz). How many of the board are Jews? We saw that the Executive Board of the Washinton Institute was entirely made up of Jews.

"Are you native? If not are you planning to relinquish your property and move back to Europe? I didn`t think so." (goani) move back to europe? how do you know hes from there? chances are he was born in canada therefor its his home land unlike the point made about jews he recently arived in the mid east(last 40-50 years) most of whome still get sun burns till this day!

"The case was different in 1973 when they were close to using nuclear weapons as they were on the verge of losing the war" I think you just proved my case, Gaoni.

1. The American People lend the use of their sovereign power to institutions, not individuals, which must act in accord with the wishes of the American People. 2. Can you imagine the consequences if a lone individual (a) decides to disregard the institutional constraints on delegated power, (b) ignores the wishes of the American People, and (c) the American People subsequently reclaim their power?

This applies to Indyayaya and ironically, to 'Reader'.

...with nuclear-generated electricity.

Iran has oil. Israel has words. SUV's run on oil, not words. Americans may be naive about world affairs, but they're real smart when it comes to filling up their gas tanks.

Another existential threat! Excellent. Time for another killing rampage. When those who are not dead are enslaved, the Moslems will recognize our moral and intellectual superiority. Indeed, so will the rest of the world which - doubtless because of neo-Nazism, for there can be no other reason - currently does not admit that Israel stands above all other nations. After all, look at the number of Jewish Nobel prize winners. If that doesn't justify more massacres, what could?

advisors: Warren Christopher Secretary of State Lawrence S. Eagleburger Secretary of State Alexander Haig Secretary of State Max M. Kampelman Senior Diplomat Samuel W. Lewis U.S. ambassador to Israel Edward Luttwak Center for Strategic and International Studies Michael Mandelbaum Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies Robert McFarlane National Security Advisor Martin Peretz Editor in Chief and Chairman, New Republic Richard Perle Assistant Secretary of Defense James G. Roche Secretary of the Air Force George P. Shultz Secretary of State Paul Wolfowitz* Deputy Secretary of Defense R. James Woolsey Director of Central Intelligence Mortimer Zuckerman Publisher, U.S. News and World Report * resigned upon entry to government service, 2001 In Memoriam Jeane Kirkpatrick U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Eugene V. Rostow Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs

From Aljazeera, OCTOBER 28, 2005: "As the Imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map," said Ahmadinejad, referring to Iran's revolutionary leader Ayat Allah Khomeini." Not to speak what the whole world press wrote... I am afraid we don't have a conversation of facts. The Zionist matter was sub part of what he said. The main thing is just above. Good By.

What Jayne and also even Indrajaya and the Palestiniann writer poted about Dennis Ross are correct. In fact when he was being assigned to the position of chief negotiator he explained his position including that he was Jewish to Arafat and told him that if he did not trust him he would not take the position. Arafat and the Arabs in general told him many times in the following years that he was the proper person for the position. All documanted in his book The Missing Peace.

I said that publishing what they said is criminal. I take it back. It was a mistake...(Talleyrand)

Who said anything about attacking Israel?

sounds to me Chris like you are saying that USA and UK are in Iraq cos of the Jews. I guess same is true of Afghanistan....u have a serious problem with bigotry and anti-jewish prejudice, stop pretending otherwise. Wash your mouth out with soap.

...Iran certainly waged war... What a big lie (typically zionist lie) you are trying to tell people here about Iran-Iraq war. Check these (on google: Iran-Iraq War) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Iraq_War http://www.iranchamber.com/history/iran_iraq_war/iran_iraq_war1.php No historians would tell the opposite about Iran-Iraq war (1980-1988) and what would have triggered that war.

...repeated often. Attempts to demonize Iranians need to be countered.

She made no accusations that Iran declared war on Iraq but said that Iran certainly waged war, and had a unique way of clearing minefields too: sending children out to do it for them. She also said that threats against our state should be taken seriously. Do you think that Ahmednijab should be ignored or laughed at? Is he a person of no consequence who talks rubbish?

Juzus!, Wat zijn wij toch bang!. Wij schijten alle kleuren van angst. Your reaction reminds me a bit the slogan of Asser and Cohen of the Jewish Council in Amsterdam during wartime: No resistance is resistance. We have to be good children, otherwise all the other kids at school would not love us. It does not work that way. Not anymore!. The leaders of Israel have to stipple their further steps very carefully. A war in our time, is more mind games than canon blasts. Some time there is a point of no return and a leadership has to take though steps.

with the war criminals in power in DC and Israel. The US and Israel are ruled by two of the most morally reprehensible gangs since the WW II. There can only be two deterrences, which will save counless Iranian, Israeli and American lives among others. One, the US military establishment's unwillingness start and get stuck in another war. Second, Iran's determination to make a suicide bomber out of Israel. The Iraq experience showed the voice of the people and their opposition to war does not count. Remember the anti-war demonstrations in Europe and the US? Did the people's voice of dissent stop the war criminal-in-chief in DC, his Zionist jihadi handlers, and his British poodle from sending thousands of American twenty-somethings to their deaths? No, it did not. So for there is no morality to speak of for these criminals.

The IAEA has no evidence of confirming that and they are closest to the answer. Does Israel have nuclear weapons? No use asking the IAEA.

Freilich was Israel's Deputy National Security Adviser for Foreign Affairs. Although born in the United States, he changed his allegiance and immigrated to Israel in his early teens. The Washington Institute for Near East Policy is not an American "think tank" as your article suggests, but rather an Israeli "public relations" organization, planted in the United States.

If the US Congress cannot solve a problem by wasting more of the taxpayers' hard earned money or plunging the country deeper into debt, the problem can't be solved. This is the result of converting a government into a business. Then there is the unlimited use of brute force. that is the Israeli method. The problem comes when Israel wants the USA to drop bombs on Israel's putative enemy, Iran. As an American citizen, I say drop your own damned bombs! Hell, we gave you enough of them, so use them yourself! But stop your picayune hints about the USA fighting your wars for you. It is tiresome watching you play the game "Let's You And Him Fight" while you stand on the sidelines, cheer, and eat pizza. You want war? Go for it! But don't ask us to do your dirty work for you. And don't expect us to weep in sympathy when you destroy the last vestiges of peace in the Middle East.

...a Zion-con of the first order... Really?. Why didn't I heard about this before. Thanks for the tips. What a poor Clinton back then.

..cont'd..Ahmadi has no real power when it comes to the matters of foreign policy or war and has no say in them whatsoever. Hitler came from a WESTERN-style democracy with imperialistic tendencies. The whole background was opposite to what Iran is about. Iran is a much more complex society to be portrayed so childishly. To compare Hitler to Ahmadi is simply, well how should I put it, ridiculous!

Dariush: Thank you for your excellent comment. It seems as if Israel really does need reminding of the 1 million deaths, 4 million Iraqis displaced and a country totally destroyed. Iran is no threat to Israel or any other country in the world. The U.S. knows it and so does Israel. This is all neocon/Zionist lobby propaganda. Such an attack will be catastrophic for Iran, Israel, the U.S. and the world, the time to act to derail it is now!! The alternative is to sit back, let it happen, and live with the consequences. There is little doubt that the rest of the world will consider the use of military intervention or nuclear weapons preemptively against a non-nuclear country as a morally repugnant act, and its perpetrators and condoners as worthy of opprobrium and universal condemnation.

Iran did not threaten the destruction of Israel. It is hoping for the diappearance of the Zionist regime..as are the Sutmar and Neturei Karta Jews...and millions of Palestinians. Did you know that the most popular drama series on Iranian TV at this moment, is about Holocaust victims and how one Iranian diplomat helped to save quite a few? (based on a true story) Why can't Iran have allies thousands of miles away, but the US can? Iran believes that the enemies of nations who threaten her, are her friends.The Israeli and American media is full of articles about people wishing to bomb Iran Iran has NEVER expressed a desire to occupy an other's land

You wrote----"If Iran, in defending itself from Iraq`s attempt to invade it, cannot be considered to have waged war, then neither can Israel, which has been defending its existence for the last 60 years. Or is Israel judged by different standards?" Only one problem Patricia----- the illegal expropiation (theft) and occupation of Pallestinian lands.I am not aware that Iran was doing anything other than preventing Iraq from doing what Israel is doing.Notably the Palestinians are in the same position.Do you deny them that right???. You wrote----"Thank you for defining my problem - I was wondering what it was. Personally, I think the US exerts far too much influence over us, not the other way round. Perhaps you should campaign for an end to that influence,ie 135 billions since 49 and end that veto option at the UN. Yes I agree,the US exerts far too much influence in Israels affairs.Time to stop it. Hope this time I have defined your problem for you.

Your comment to Dariush was really embarrassing. It wasn't Iran who started the war with Iraq. Iraq INVADED Iran with the full backing and encouragement of the "civilized West". With all the money, weaponry, and intelligence provided to them, they still couldn't beat Iran who saw the world turning their backs on her. Make no mistake, Iran's population is against the mullahs, but if and when any country attacks, Iranians set aside their differences and defend their country. You will not find a more patriotic nation. Secondly, you are blindly repeating what's been fed to you. I hate the mullahs regime and what they've done to Iran, but truth is Ahmadinejad didn't call for Israel to be wiped out, his reference was to what he calls the zionist regime(much like the Soviet regime or SA apartheid regime that were wiped, NOT THE PEOPLE OR THE COUNTRY as whole). Also, I'm afraid your comparison of Ahmadi to Hitler is ridiculous, you don't compare apples and oranges. Cont'd..

So when did Iran attack Israel then? To justify Israel calling for the United States of America to attack Iran to protect Israel's strategic interests in the region? America has new interests in the Middle East now in the form of Iraq. I suppose Israel has to stamp her feet more loudly and scream even louder to get noticed these days. Iran has no intention of directly attacking Israel. The fact Israel cannot beat Iran's proxy armies is not the United States problem.

...in defending itself from Iraq`s attempt to invade it... Iran wasn't defending itself from Iraq's attempt to invade it. Iraq did invade Iran first at 1980, supported by the US to topple Ayatullah Khomeini who was just a couple of months established the Islamic Republic of Iran since he returned from France (January 1979).

A very odd couple. The one; true American white member of the Rednex, the other non-white 3rd world big mouth and both share the same level of logic and common sense. The US, the strongest country on earth, is going to war because…a null and void Middle Eastern country is telling her to do so? No personal US strategic interests in the area? No oil interests? To know some more about the subject, please open link http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/03/08/MN242495.DTL In the movie ‘Twins’ say Danny de Vito to his twin brother Arnold Schwarzenneger: Where money talk, bullshit walk. The Iraq war was not started for the sake of the world or Israel. It ought to be an excellent chance for firms like Halliburton to control the vast oilfields of the country.

For those of you not knowledgeable about such things, there are subtles difference between "talking about planning", "planning", and "execution". 1. It'd be stupid NOT to have a plan in place. Any country that doesn't have a plan for every possible contingency is totally unprepared. But a plan doesn't mean "go out and do it right away". A plan is simply that. 2. Israel doesn't need to bomb. One sign of Iran setting up to attack Israel with a nuke, and Tehran glows in the dark. Simple. 3. If Israel attacked Iran without provocation, do you really think the other Arab countries WOULDN'T retaliate?? THINK, people. 4. The U.S. won't attack, because it's BUSH who wants to, not the U.S. IF he tries, he'll be removed from office. There's far more to lose than to be gained. Do try to think, people. Ignorance is not a preferred quality.

I don't agree. I don't believe there is any longer a significant conventional threat to Israel nor is there likely to be one in the future. The case was different in 1973 when they were close to using nuclear weapons as they were on the verge of losing the war. This is unlikely to happen again. The real danger now lies in the procurement of atomic bombs by mad mullahs who have clearly stated that they will do whatever it takes to destroy Israel. Israel cannot afford to take a chance on the fact that they may be bluffing.

Let's not be naive and read official bios as the blooming truth. Dennis Ross is a founding member of the Israel Firsters, a Zion-con of the first order. Clinton failed in his Middle East peace endeavors by sending a Zinophile like Ross as his chief negotiator. Having a throughly Judeocentric view of the Middle East doomed Ross to failure, which is what he and the other Israel Firsters in America wanted. Then they blamed Arafat because he wouldn't roll over and let Israel take the better part of the Palestinian land. Israel doesn't want peace. They want an exodus of Palestinians from the Occupied Territories. Ross subscribes to this completely.

For the sake of Israel, I hope she stays away from these madmen's steering. What is your source "iran itself is claiming that it had nukes and it wants to weaponize it"? And what are your credentials for "i give them 3 months"? For all of our sakes I hope you will never have to find out how Iran would respond. Your national/international woes would look like a dress rehearsal. By looking at your post I don't get that there's a great intellectual mind behind it (you type as a teen texting his bud)so I don't know if you have any simple physics knowledge or not, Israel has 1/10th of Iran's population and holds 1/90th area in term of land. Iran is no Syria or Lebanon.

If Iran, in defending itself from Iraq's attempt to invade it, cannot be considered to have waged war, then neither can Israel, which has been defending its existence for the last 60 years. Or is Israel judged by different standards? Thank you for defining my problem - I was wondering what it was. Personally, I think the US exerts far too much influence over us, not the other way round.

The neocon con artist, who work as Israeli agents in the US, are happy to fight Iran to the last American soldier - don't forget by spending the last American tax payers money either. Why, because these foreign agents know Israel does not intend to become a suicide bomber, so their "think tanks" simply say Americans be damned.

Wouldn't it be a strange twist of fate for the USA to make war on Iran only to find itself opposed to all the oil interests in the world? Cut off nose to spite Face?

Your: "Iran wants and needs a security guarrantee. Once it has that, it will peacefully mind it`s own business..." is a humoristic sentence or you forgot to proofread what you wrote? Surely you don't really believe that what Iran is doing in the Middle East by threatening the destruction of Israel, supporting Hezbollah, etc, thousands of miles away from it, is a need for security so it can "peacefully mind its own business"?

" Israel is likely to resort to nuclear weapons (as any nation would) if it faces an existential threat. The only such threat currently comes from Iran" You're not listening to what I'm saying, Gaoni. Israel's stock of warheads is its final defence in conventional war. If it is being overrun by Arab armies it could threaten nuclear obliteration on the homeland of the invading armies if these are not halted. This threat ceases to be possible if the invading armies are from a country which has its own nuclear deterrent. An Iranian nuclear deterrent means that Israel must win every future war with conventional forces alone, to the last tick of recorded time. At some point it will be very unlucky. This is why Israel is frantically campaigning to persuade America to whack Iran on its behalf. It isn't afraid of nuclear oblivion, it is afraid of conventional oblivion. It wants to keep its nuclear monopoly.

This is a ridiculous premise. Iran is absolutely no threat to the US, nor to Israel. Iran has started no wars, threatened no one, while Israel has waged aggressive war against the Occupied Territories, Lebannon, and Syria and propagandized the US into wars against Afghanistan and Iraq. Israel likes to quote an untrue, manufactured "threat" that Iran wants to wipe Israel off the face of the earth but the President of Iran said no such thing, Israel now propagandizes this nonsensical Iranian "threat to Israel's very existance" which is pure warmongering. If Israel would behave like a decent, moral, civilized society there would be no problems. There is nothing benefiting the USA to support Israel as it does, both financially and militarily. Absolutely nothing. I'd like to know how many Jewish young people have joined the US armed services to fight in Iraq. Scant few, if any, I'd guess. The USA needs to cut Israel off now.

During the the 6 day war. The US sent weapons to Israel. The US figured that they would get blamed for it anyway. The Arabs would be mad either way. The US decided to send alot of Arms. This is also the world according to Bush. The last shipment of $1.3 Billion in Weapons were at a bargain price. The Av Gas was about $2 a liter and the bombs below cost.

Jews can have an opinion never said otherwise. However if you write a report suggesting that American citizens put their kids lives in harms way then it is correct that you also make clear if you are an Israeli or an American. Nothing to do with being Jewish or not everything to do with ensuring that decisions which may lead to war are made with the full transparancy of those who are calling for war. Because if that had happened the UK would not be in the mess it is in now in Iraq. 45 minutes ring a bell? A country where Israeli servicemen are conspicous by their absence. If that makes me a bigot fair enough. I just don't see why young men from my country or anywhere else for that matter should lay down their lives for Israel, on what is extremeley spurious information at best, lies at worse.

And people wonder why so many see Israel as a threat? There will be no peace in Palestine until they possess nukes along with Israel. The Jewish state wont respect anything but power.

Realist, your realism is not realistic in a world of reality that is no longer real.

...Now I don`t think like that because I know more ... What do you know more, Yossy, after Bush said, "children do learn" a couple of months ago. LoL.

Not quite. Jews lived on this land long before the Arabs. There has always been a Jewish presence in Palestine/Israel in the last 3500 years. Not exactly the same as the situation in North America. But even if it is as you say, the question remains; how would Canada respond? Are you native? If not are you planning to relinquish your property and move back to Europe? I didn't think so.

The Bush Administration has done a lousy job of educating the American Public exactly about how bad this thing really is. There is a very obvious gap between the people that understand and the people who don't. The public clearly understands the reasons behind our pursuit of Al Qaeda and the invasion of Afghanistan but it is not clear on Iraq. I just heard this the other day from a guy on the street. He said in other words that he thought the only reason he could figure that we fought Iraq was on account of Israel but at the same time he couldn't understand why Israel would have wanted us to do it because it would make all the Muslims angrier. He wasn't really sure about this but it was the only thing he could think of. And again there was the emphasis that Americans were being killed over there, perhaps for nothing. So there is the problem. Now I don't think like that because I know more but I think it's probably the mind set of the majority of people in the world. Deal with it.

The American people will have nothing to say about it. Bush will act on his plan regardless. He can not be re-elected. Once its starts, Iran will strike the oil supply and there will be no stopping it. I just hope that Israel or the U.S. does not hold back. The only way to stop the rockets is to carpet bomb. Let Allah sort out the trash.

israel must bomb iran, then i want to see iran bomb israel, them americans come in to save israel, then the arabs roll into israel... thats it.

...we shouldn't be surprised if our First Nations decided to strike back. Just like the Israelis, we are living on stolen land which we illegally expropriated from others.

you wrote----"You wrote: Iran has not waged war nor invaded a country for over three hundred years. Must have slipped your memory - I mean the 8-year war against Iraq, you remember now? The one where the mullahs gave plastic keys to kids and told them to run across the minefields." Actually, it was Iraq that invaded Iran so no, Iran has not waged war. Do not get me wrong, I am no defender of Aminidinejad but the truth I will defend. Your problem is you cannot accept that Israel has it,s nose far too deep into the American Political system.It is time Israel made peace with the Palestinians before it is too late and you end up with no Israel to 'wipe off the map'.IE, a Bi National State with equal rights for all, even the new Palestinian Jewish minority.Lets see how they will react in their new country????.

i guess Jews aren't allowed an opinion....interesting, suggest you divorce yourself then from all the scientific, medical and other advantages that the Jews have brought the world. For starters, you should erase all of western civilisation because the Jews brought the 10 Commandments. You are simply a bigot.

Jane is absolutely right. Dennis Ross, one of the key architects of the Oslo Accord. He has done a commendable job in promoting peace in the Middle East, and continues to do so. The original poster may have confused Dennis Ross with Leo Strauss. However, associating Jews with the Neocons, is morally and politically wrong. Dennis Ross and many other Jewish thinkers and academics promote peace and disagree with the Neoconservative movement. Just like mnany Arabs and Moslems who disgaree with the Jihadis and their likes.

try not to drown in yr bigotry...there are 100's of wars all over the world at this present time and guess what ? No Jews involved in 99.99% of them.

You wrote: Iran has not waged war nor invaded a country for over three hundred years. Must have slipped your memory - I mean the 8-year war against Iraq, you remember now? The one where the mullahs gave plastic keys to kids and told them to run across the minefields. You also wrote: At least have the decency to say that it's all about Israel`s geopolitical advantage rather than frame it in obviously ridiculous terms such as the second hitler and the holocaust. Ridiculous? You mean that when a power hungry fanatic tells lies about your people and threatens to wipe you off the face of the earth, it should just be dismissed as ridiculous? I don't think so.

...not even considered a conservative let alone a neoconservative... If I'm not mistaken he led the Clinton negotiation team too in Camp David 2000, back and forth between Arafat Camp and Barak's. Although I'm not a FAN of Dennis (far from it), I agree with you, he isn't a NEO-CON. He isn't a stupid guy either, his Arabic is perfect, some say.

Ya, Click, we know that bigots are sensitive to such things...

Easy for us to talk from the comfort and safety of Toronto. Israel lives in a very dangerous neighbourhood surrounded by lunatics who are constantly threatening her very existence. How would Canada respond if North American Indians started lobbing rockets into our towns and started making threats to annihalte us?

Google Chuck Freilich, Margie. He was until recently, Israel's Deputy National Security Adviser. I am assuming this position would require that he is Israeli. That is a relevant point by any standard.

Hope this answers your question for you.I see you have a lazy mind when it comes to seeking the truth. Chuck Freilich was, until recently, Israel's Deputy National Security Adviser. He is now a Senior Fellow at the Belfer Center at Harvard's Kennedy School, where he is writing a book on Israeli national security decision making. Chuck's primary areas of expertise are U.S.-Mid East policy and Israeli national security policy. He teaches political science at Tel Aviv and Hebrew Universities and also co-directs a Middle Eastern affairs consultancy. Chuck was a Senior Analyst at the Israel Ministry of Defense, focusing on strategic affairs, Policy Advisor to a cabinet minister and a Delegate at the Israeli Mission to the UN. He was the Executive Director of two non-profits and served in the Israel Defense Forces for five years (reserve major). Chuck earned his Ph.D. from Columbia University. Born in New York, he immigrated to Israel in his teens.

I never heard Dennis Ross called a right wing neocon before and he is their major name scholar. I guess just being Jewish and a Middle East expert qualifies a person as a neocon in the minds of the perverted hate mongers. For the ignorant, Dennis Ross led the Oslo peace negotiations...and is not even considered a conservative let alone a neoconservative.

Steve, I just received a phone call by error. It was the NSC looking for you for advice. They called my number by accident. They called me at my Starbucks coffee shop.

Why don't you read his bio. He was an officer in the IDF from 1977-1982. http://www.allamericanspeakers.com/speakers/Chuck-Freilich/6382

..who may annoy Americans at the moment. The US could easily negotiate a peaceful existance with Iran because Iran wants and needs normal relationships with all countries. It is the US that has consistantly threatened and boycotted Iran, even before the nuclear "threat". Immediately after 9/11, Iranians took to the streets in very large number in support of the US, and the Iranian government made extremely sympathetic noises. Iran has helped immensly against the Taliban who viviously persecuted the Shiite Afghani Hazaras. Iran wants and needs a security guarrantee. Once it has that, it will peacefully mind it's own business...just as the US should!

The Washington Institute for Near East Policy is a public educational foundation dedicated to scholarly research and informed debate on US interests in the Middle East. It has fellows from different countries.

I totally agree with your assessment and can add that if Iran is attacked, I ran will unleash their mid and long range missiles at Israel from the east and at the same time Hizballa and Syria would unleash their short range stockpile from the north and northeast. That would be a devastating blow for Israel. I have family that lives in Israel and I DO NOT want this to happen. I strongly believe that the US and Israel must modify their foreign policies and solve the Palestinian problem fairly and then start a serious dialogue with Iran and Syria. After all you don?t make piece with your friends, you make piece with your enemies. Israel knows well by now that strength dose not bring security any longer. So lets wakeup and get to work to solving the problems peacefully!

Israel will eat Irans lunch. Iran is all bluster and screams, which means that's all they have. Israels total victories( surprise strikes) over Iraq and Syria, without any involvment with any other forces, proves its superiority over her enemies. The 6 days war might be shortened to 2/3 days when Iran is concerned. No one has studied war more effectively than Israel. No one had to. Iran thinks that because America is in Iraq that she's too preoccupied. Not so. Israel and America have big plans for Iran. The mini mouse will have to learn to scream louder. No one is afraid of his high pitched squeal. Wonder how long Iran could offord a war if their oil fields were hit? Bring it on. Israel will reduce Iran to a mud hut society. No one has mentioned how the populace hates this creep. They might do the job for Israel and US.

"But he also seeks a dialogue on how to live with a nuclear Iran. " Sound like a death wish to you?

You misunderstand me. The point is to prevent nuclear war by pre-empting an Iranian bomb. Israel would not use the bomb unless they were hit first. In such a scenario, it's all over for Irael and they would annihalate the Iranians, but of course, it would be too late by then.

". But he also seeks a dialogue on how to live with a nuclear Iran. ". Yes It sounds like we will have our combat troops out in the next six months. Governments have ways of changeing their minds after elections. As our former defence minister,now leader of the opposition, said the war was ultimately about oil so who knows?

Iran has been complying with the requests for information, interviews and inspections from the IAEA. There is NOT ONE SHRED of evidence of a nuclear weapons program in Iran. IF the US or Israel had a shred of evidence, they need only produce it to justify their lust for war, yet they do not. Please note that this 'report' comes from a psycho-right neocon related organization with a long history of fraud.

Whatever the Washington Institute people think, the US will not do it now that Iraq is calming down. After 6 years of that war things are finally turning around and I do not believe they will want to stir up another hornet's nest. After the drawdown from Iraq the next president might have no choice but certainly not in the next year. That leaves Israel to either go it alone or wait and see.

This last sentence "... he also seeks a dialog on how to live with a nuclear Iran." is the most important. Israel will live with a nuclear Iran, period. Sober minds will prevail, and the Zionist (Jewish and not) rabid dogs can go bark at the moon!

gets nukes because then Israel and the US will be neutered and will have to very quickly learn the fine art of diplomacy and treating other people properly. Will that mean a much smaller and poorer Israel? Probably, but has no right to steal from the Arabs in retaliation for the Holocaust. The Zionists were correct that Jews needed a place where they could be safe after WW2, but they should have pushed the US to let them into the US instead of ethnically cleansing the ME.

If Israel uses nukes, it WILL BE NUKED, count on it. So the reality is using nukes would be suicidal for Israel. Yes, lots of Arabs would die, but so would all of Israel. That doesn't sound like a "winning" tactic to me. If you are delusional enough to think that Israel won't suffer massive retaliation, then go for it, but I hope you won't mind me saying "I told you so" when you end up dead.

Any attack on Iran will have unintended results: (1) Israel will be massively attacked with lots of civilians killed in the first hours. The smart Israelis are already getting out of Israel (those dual nationality passports sure are nice). (2) the world-wide oil markets will panic and the price of oil will go through the roof causing massive economic problems in the US. (3) US assets around the world will be attacked, including most US corporations and military - lots of dead US soldiers in Iraq. Basically the US will be looking for a way to end the mess real quick and if it means the end of Israel, so be it. After Iran is attacked, there will be no "moderate" Muslim countries only deadly enemies for Israel and the US. Israel has a simple choice, death or learn to live with a nuclear Iran just like it lives with a Nuclear Pakistan, a Nuclear Russia, a Nuclear China, etc. Basically any talk of an attack on Iran is completely suicidal.

It will be a lot more effective to halt the spare parts for Iran's oil industry, and the Petrol that Iran needs to import, than bombing Iran. It may be technically feasable to bomb Iran, however it will not stop Iran from pursuing nuclear technology, only delay it. Nobody wants a nuclear armed Iran, however nobody wants another senseless war either, because a war with Iran will be much different from a war with Iraq. I see the Aussies are out of Iraq next year.

In conventional terms Israel has vast superiority to the Arabs. Egypt is neutralised and Syria is pathetic. However, Israel is likely to resort to nuclear weapons (as any nation would) if it faces an existential threat. The only such threat currently comes from Iran.

Nice to hear Israel should begin planning strike on Iran nuclear sites. For this matter, It is crystal clear that a threatened country should prepare itself toward a military action or war. Especially in case the country is strong enough to defend itself. To understand better the future, we have to learn from the past. Open wikipedia on: Professor Emil Hacha the president of Tsjechosowakia in September 1938. His country was deceived and betrayed by the civilized world for Peace in our time (appeasemet at the Munchen conference). Can Israel afford itself to go ‘Eyes wide Shut’ toward the misfortune of Tsjechoslowakia? Is there any reason for Israel to let Iran wipe out the land of the chart for the sake of the world?

Surely it is acceptable to ensure that people know that this person used to be directly involved as an Israeli with the security of Israel. So when he proposes to put the Sons and Daughters of American citizens in harms way to advance the cause of Israel's security these very same people can make informed decisions as to whether they agree with this report or not. Or aren't American civilians entitled to know the truth?

This includes Europe China etc. So its not just an Israel issue much as the haters would like to paint it that way.

won't be a cakewalk.Plus the nuclear fall out will affect the entire region.the criminal gang of cheny&the Lobby have actually been set back because dubiya is starting to listen to sage counsel.american military generals have advised against it. In any case,Iran is a sovereign country and can have an independent nuclear policy,the two international bandits notwithstanding!I personally believe that Iran should develop nukes since it will end the israeli reign of terror in the ME.

I think what sticks in most people's craws is the fact that this Freilich is an Israeli citizen who served on various security councils in Israel. So, yes, being part of the Israeli power structure, he just might have a bias. You addressed, of course, none of the important points made by Darius, responding instead with the old anti-semitic slur.

Joel Kovel's "Overcoming Zionism" diagnoses with irrefutable precision the Zionist cancer at work in the body of American political discourse, fully reflected in any rational biopsy of Frielich's little propaganda piece here. Freilich's piece is the equivalent of a German think tank report in 1938 about the necessity of invading Poland because it poses an existential threat to Germany. The difference here, though, is that we Yankees will be the ones dying (again) to forward the Zionist project. Read the book!

Sir, Interesting, isn't it? Very recently - just about 30 years ago people from Hebrew University went to teach to Tehran University. ... and then these crasy Jewish NeoCons. Strange... BTW how about non_Jewish neocons?

Isn't it interesting that Aluf Benn fails to mention that Freilich is not only an Israeli but also was the Deputy National Security Advisor for Israel. This report should be filed where it belongs - in the warmongers dust bin.

The more we pay attention to what is happening in the Semitic region, the more we become aware of the dangerousness of the games people play in the US at the expense of the Israeli Jews and Palestinians. The more the likes of that 'Chuck Freilich' air war language the more difficult it becomes to promote the Jewish case. #58 As usual I'm more afraid of the danger of internal decadence.

Please don't do anything foolish that might endanger the already precocious situation of Israel and the Jewish people. Five years ago I would have said what I thought, what comes up naturally in a person if he loves righteousness is something I don't express any more. How can we prevent the Jewish people to take decisions that can only hurt them in the long run?

Israel Lobby (who is behind this study group) is showing off its powerful muscle, one day after it rejected the US proposal to UNSC on Annapolis. You don't want to miss the opportunity to observe this important moment. THIS IS HUGE, man.

It never ceases to amaze me how one sensationalist article after another appears in the press speculating on how, when, and why to attack Iran, when in reality such an attack would require top secret planning and an element of surprise in order to succeed (not that I am in favor of it). So why all the blustering, spear rattling and incitement here? If your're going to attack Iran than go closet yourselves in a quiet room somewhere and plan it in secret. And please remember to give us some prior warning so we can brace ourselves here for the repercussions.

Does this mean that the previous plans reported where hoax?

They do indeed face an existential threat, but it is not from nuclear attack, but from conventional defeat by Arab armies when Iran has neutralised their stock of warheads with a nuclear deterrent. Israel would bring economic ruin and military disaster on America and the West without worrying for a second, just so long as it kept its nuclear monopoly, its ace up its sleeve in extremis. This is totally understandable, but it is for the people of America to know what is going on, and to decide whether Israel's nuclear monopoly is worth the price they will be expected to pay. It is also VITAl that they know who is behind think-tanks such as the Washington Institute and evaluate their recommendations in the light of this. The Washington Institute is CLEARLY an arm of the American Jewish Lobby, and it is CLEARLY working the pedals for Israel and not America.

American NeoCons Jews at again. Having succeeded in getting the US in the big mess in Iraq at costs of tens of thousands of American lives ( not Israeli) and at costs in millions of Iraqi lives and at a cost of close to trillions, the same group is now at it again. This time Iran and it will be the same mess. These Jewish NeoCons will again sell the US a fraudulent bill in order to protect and create a safe zone for Israel. Next time, the US will go to war for and on behalf of Israel as the NeoCons dictate. The price for Annapolis is already the War on Iran. These think thanks are not American think tanks, they are Israeli/Jewish NeoCons think tanks. Israel was is and will always be in the driver seat.

So lets get this clear. Where exactly does Israel and Iran fit in to what Chavez said? "If the United States of America interferes with the election results (being held today) in Venezuela, then I will cut off the oil" So if you could, can you explain to me what this admittedly explicit threat has to do with Israel, Iran's nuclear ambitions and this report?

I have never heard any kind of study groups which its bloody recommendations were to ATTACK other countries without any provocation whatsoever, before this one. UNBELIEVABLE, no shame at all.

CHAVEZ WILL CUT OIL TO U.S.? http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/12/01/2107074.htm

1. Iran doesn?t have or seek any N weapons and whole article based on a big lie. 2. He doesn't know what the meaning of support of Iraqis insurgent is. He lives in a fantasy world. For example after attack, Iran will ships anti tank weapons to Iraq same one that destroyed 120 Israelis tanks in Lebanon war. Just lack of imagination and a calculation is the only description for this sick man. I won't talk about shipping of anti aircraft missals that easily can destroy helicopters. 3. Iran easily can close Hurmoz and stop the oil shipment to the rest of world. 5. The 33 days Israel war must be a good lesson for you that how a resistant force that trained by Iranian can destroy the Israelis army that has the most modern weapons. The only thing that American army is good on, is killing of civilian and if they choose this approach in Iran, Iranian will show them that they must pay

With Americans and french and Israeli inventors, the days of the oil rich are fast coming to an end. Ford, Chevrolet, Pontias, Lexus, Toyota, Honda, and many more are now in the process of phasing out combustion engines with millions of dollars being put into engineering for none gas useing Vehicals. There are now 2 new German made Electric Motors capable of 300 klm per charge with rapid charging due to Chinas new break through in Battary technologies. The time of Oil age is fast coming to an end. Then what will the Arab nations have? nothing..

Aren't the recent State Department machinations making it quite clear that at least the State Department has massive pro-Arab interests. And what about the oil and gas companies that are in Iran and dealing quite happily with them. I mean REALLY!

Cipora, I assume there will be at least 100'000'000 people on this planet who are in one way or another "associated" with Israel. With all due respect, but even for a Swiss "genius" that might be one (Freilich) too much to know....:)

This a joke ! The Iranians have learned from the 1981 strike on the Iraqi Nuclear facility. The Uranium enrichment facilities are either hundreds of metres under ground or deep into mountains. No bunker busting bombs will penetrate. American scientists openly admit this. All a strike will do is literally eliminate the US presence in Iraq, when tens of thousands of Shia militias will go to Iraq to fight against the Americans. A fatal mistake by all standards...

Don't worry Esther, apart from the little exception called Cipora (she likes it...:) I would never ever use the weapon of "age-bashing". Holy promise !!! Because I am very well aware of the fact that in 30 years it will be "my turn"...:)

So what you suggesting then? That this report is a very important piece of research written by this Friedlich bloke without any hint of bias to what the result should be? Or a blatant piece of propaganda by an Israeli living in Washington under the pay of Mossad or similar organisation trying to ensure American mothers and fathers sacrifice their sons and daughters on the alter of Israel's avarice for all things not theirs? Surely not?

This is not even a report by a NSC member, BUT BY A FORMER DEPUTY HEAD, a nobody!! And the Washington "influential" think tank publishing such stuff is simply UNBELIEVABLE irresponsible recklessness! For God's sake can't such garbage be stopped? All sorts of BADLY INTENTIONED PEOPLE, all over the world, may act on this. World wars can start because of some idiot playing with nuclear subjects in public. America, wake up!

Would be interesting know. Personally I believe since the Iran debacle when Israel convinced the US to do it's dirty work for them. The US are not been as gullible and a constant refrain towards the Israeli lobby in Washington is we haven't the manpower, airplanes (F15's are currently grounded) political will to attack Iran. Israel will have to act shortly (if it can) as the Russians are about to deliver the nuclear material to power up the nuclear power station. This Friedlich bloke is trying to ratchet up the percieved threat level because of the sanctions meeting, and in the face of world indifference to the socalled Iranian threat. Fortunately for the planet people are not buying into it.

The US already has plans set up in case they need to attack hypothetical nuclear facilities in Canada. If they don't have Iran contingencies redrawn every week based on new data then they are not a military department.

The censor, for some reason, didn't want me to point out to Talkback readers the people who form the Executive Board of the Washington Institute. I would invite people to put "Washington Institute for Near East Policy" into the Google search panel, go to the Home Page and check out their Executive Board. You don't go to a cake shop for impartial advice on a diet.

"Ahmadinejad has a choice, negotiate with UN and EU or suffer destruction by US military forces" And when the US bombs have stopped falling, what then? Tell me how you think Iran will respond to this aggression. Before you do that: 1. Try to recall what the Iranians have already told us about their likely response (HINT: oil) 2. Take a good look at the map of the region. 3. Use Google to check out the Iranian military machine and the weaponry they possess (PARTICULAR HINT: check the size and nature of their stock of cruise missiles).

Who will get all the blame for WW3: ISRAEL ! an attack (as suggested by Freilich) on Iran will create the worst anti-semitism which the diaspora has not yet seen the past two centuries and will surely wipe Israel off the world map. Freilich and the likes are wrong.

What a bunch of bozos these guys are. First of all they are at least 5 years late. Secondly they PUBLISH their study. And they do it from an Israeli funded institution. They lack any political know how. Their PR is below an elementary level politician. Their recommendations are as vague as any one can make. Lets talk to see if we can coordinate plans in case an attack has to be made ,,,,blah,,,, blah,,,blah Either this news has other motives or, worse, the last of any intelligrnsia have left the Israeli box.

It's the 'surprisingly Jewish' that sticks in your craw isn't it? You'd be amazed, but there are Jews in all sorts of top jobs in many countries. They must have some secret power, like working hard and being prepared to take responsibility, or something. Incidentally, we don't have to 'sign treaties' if we don't want their protection as well as their restrictions. It's no crime.

Swiss, don't under-estimate mothers, or even grand-mothers....

This is an example of a newspaper trying to generate useless news noise. 1. What do you think, that they havn't been planning, they just woke up now? 2. What's the usefulness/interest to the readers? So a think tank came out with this piece of brilliance, so what?