Son of shooting victim: Revenge is not for Jews
Father of 7 killed in attack near his home, laid to rest; Shas: Rebuild roadblock where Hai was shot.
By Avi Issacharoff, Anshel Pfeffer and Chaim Levinson Tags: Israel terrorism Israel news West BankHundreds of mourners gathered in Jerusalem on Friday morning to bury Rabbi Meir Hai, a father of seven who was shot dead by Palestinians near his home in the West Bank a day before.
In eulogizing his father, Hai's 16-year-old son Eliyahu urged mourners not to consider seeking revenge for the attack. "The difference between us and them is that we are people, Jews, holy," he said.
Hai, a resident of the West Bank settlement Shavei Shomron, was killed in a shooting attack on a road near his home. He was laid to rest on Jerusalem's Mount of Olives.
The Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades and the Islamic Jihad have both claimed responsibility for the attack.
Hai, a 40-year-old teacher and father of seven, was killed when militants opened fire at his car on the road between Shavei Shomron and the nearby settlement Einav in the West Bank. He was alone in his car.
An IDF officer said that in the past week a roadblocks had been removed on the road Hai was driving on, about 150 meters from where he was shot.
The roadblock, known as the barrels roadblock, monitored the traffic around Nablus in the direction of Tul Karm, the officer said. The perpetrators are believed to have fled through where the roadblock used to be to Asira al-Shamaliyah.
Over the past year, the number of terror attacks in the West Bank has dramatically decreased thanks mainly to the Shin Bet security service and IDF. However, IDF officials say attempts to carry out terror attacks continue, especially those perpetrated by local individuals working alone.
Last month two people were stabbed at a Kiryat Arba gas station. The assailant was shot by a security guard and a soldier on leave who happened to be there.
Brig. Gen. Nitzan Alon, commander of the Israel Defense Forces' Judea and Samaria division, said at a press briefing on Thursday that the IDF was trying to find the assailants with the help of preliminary intelligence.
The car used by the attackers was found later burned out in the village of Asira Al-Shamaliyah.
Shas: Rebuild road block near Einav
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has rejected a number of appeals made by ministers over the last few months to discuss the removal of West Bank checkpoints, Army Radio reported on Friday.
Shas Chairman Eli Yishai headed the ministers calling for debate, telling Netanyahu that: "Past experience teaches us that removing roadblocks as part of an effort to ease conditions for Palestinians increasing their attempts to attack Jews."
The Prime Minister's Bureau would not respond to the report.
Shas MK Nissim Ze'ev has called for the roadblock to be reconstructed near Einav, on the road where Hai was killed afternoon.
The attack sparked harsh responses on the right on Thursday evening. The Yesha Council of settlements issued a statement saying that "the murderous shooting attack in Samaria is a direct result of the policy of lifting restrictions on the Palestinians, removing necessary roadblocks in Judea and Samaria and transferring the responsibility for security to those whose ranks have produced many terrorists who murdered Jews. As in similar incidents in the past, once again the gestures aimed at Abu Mazen [Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas] carry a price tag of Jewish blood."
MK Michael Ben Ari (National Union) said that "the path of capitulation, the road openings, the [settlement construction] freeze and the release of [Palestinian] prisoners that [Prime Minister Benjamin] Netanyahu has imposed on us convey to terrorists that Jewish blood is cheap. The terrorist probably thinks that he will be released in the next exchange.
"The Arabs interpret the Israeli government's decisions as a green light to harm settlers."
Another settler committee issued a statement saying that "the murder is a completely predictable outcome of the government's behavior. Anyone who plans to wage war against his Jewish brothers essentially helps Arab terrorists."
The statement added that "this is what happens when the government and army's top priority is the release of murderers and they persecute Jewish settlers."
The head of the Samaria regional council, Gershon Mesika, said that "after a long period of calm, the central roadblock between Samaria communities and Tul Karm was recently removed, despite our warnings. The Israeli government put the 'Palestinian fabric of life' above the lives of its citizens."
The head of the Kedumim council, Hananel Dorani, said that "this murderous attack is a direct result of the government's weakness, [reflected by] the construction freeze in Judea and Samaria and the turning of security resources against Jews."
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"The difference between us and them is that we are people, Jews, holy," he said.
I hear what you are saying regarding World Opinion but I hate to break it to you, world, but it does not matter all that much what your opinion is, this country will defend itself and must. That's not to say that we cannot create a lasting peace by giving land for peace, but get real, without roadblocks, blockades, etc., large cities would be at risk to suicide bombs and attacks. I'm sorry but that scares me, and it would scare you too if you lived here. I did not choose to "inhabit" someone else's land, just merely to live in an undisputed part of the country that was a major target for terroist activities for many years. Get real Iain from New Zealand and all the rest that feel so comfortable judging such a complex situation from so far away.
You, the Children of God are the Settlers in Israel. God chased you out of there in the old Testament for doubting him. Israel belongs to the People of Palestine. we do not mind regular Jews, we get along just fine. it is the outside interference constantly kindled by your Zionist Brothers that are to blame.
Are you the same holy People that have reserved the right to murder innocent Palestinian Babies because anyone not Jewish is not Human ? are you not murdering the innocent in Gaza so they can not harm you later on in life ?
The US military found it was entirely counter-productive to engage in targeted killings and took them out the order of battle in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Now only some CIA contractors do it at the request of the Pakistani and some other governments. It kills off too many innocents and is a recruiting tool for al Qaida. It's dumb and counterproductive and totally immoral.
You don't understand! Remove the settlements. They cause the tension, feed the violence and create the need for road blocks. They are also in violation of international law. Regardless of the culture, the religion, the part of the world, the type of law and justice, illegal acts are met, or end, in violence.
Eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth was never enforced in Biblical times. It was astandard of civil damages, the same as in every modern civil legal system where the value of the loss of alimb, eye , or tooth has a monetary value assigned, and the tort feasor (one who caused the damage) mus pay for the damages.
Those laws were Hamorabi's the Babylonian and not Jewish laws.
who invented eye for an eye? Eskimo? Swedes? NOT!
"the u.s. engages in targeted killings all the time. the predators are unmanned and fire hell fire missiles into terrorist targets. do those terrorists get trials?" You know Mark agrees with US executions? "your hatred of israel should not blind you to such an extent" Hatred schmatred... It's the duplicity of Israeli policies, stealing with one hand executing with the other, while crying 'poor Israel' with a forked tongue, just to satisfy nut cases who believe they're above the law.
Israel removed every last Israel from Gaza - we all know where that got us! Should we also remove all Arabs from Israel? A total population exchange would be the fair thing to do - why would anyone think that only removal of Israelis is the solution? Isn't that a one-sided forced transfer?
the u.s. engages in targeted killings all the time. the predators are unmanned and fire hell fire missiles into terrorist targets. do those terrorists get trials? your hatred of israel should not blind you to such an extent.
the torah prohibits private vengeance. it prohibits blood feuds. the torah does not prohibit self defence.
Removing the Settlers is the only answer.
Place their people in danger, against the law, whilst illegally acquiring territory, against the law. Execute people without a trial, also against the law.
the torah specifically prohibits vengeance: "vengeance is mine, i am hashem" (devarim 32:35) "thou shalt not take vengeance, nor bear any grudges.... i am hashem" (vayikra 19:18)
Maybe you missed the article about the IDF starting the revenge cycle by killing 3 without evidence or trial, in Nablus. The kid had the right idea, but the IDF has their own that is not a match.
We've made peace and native lands are being slowly restored or compensated for. 70% of the State of Maine was subject to return and then compensated for. The Nez Perce are buying back the Joseph Valley using casino profits. Casinos are denied to non-tribe members outside of Nevada, New Jersey, and Mississippi.
"The Arabs interpret the Israeli government's decisions as a green light to harm settlers." - MK Michael Ben Ari It must hurt being so constipated. The IDF started the revenge cycle already by killing three with no evidence or trial.
Wonderful that there exists that attitude in humankind. It is an attitude that does not exist much and is sorely needed to end the cycle of violence.
Do we read the same book? Have you recently checked the Pentateuch? It clearly states "a tooth for a tooth and an eye for an eye" and the official policy of the 'Israeli government' is (recently stated during your party in Gaza) is 'ten teeth for a tooth, etc'
The son is a very bright young man to say such words, but the old biblical laws, Jewish laws, read "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth". That is how the Jews used to act thousands of years ago. If something so bad were to happen to one of my loved ones, I would gladly carry out the old law........! I pray of course nothing like this ever happens to my family.
It may very well be racism but it is oh so true.
What a wonderful message in very tough times. I am so sorry you lost your father (in this world). My heart goes out to you and prayers for you and your family. May the G-d of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob give you peace. You are loved here in the USA.
"Hebron is oldest Jewish settlement on earth" Hebron is not Sovereign Israeli territory. "The Jewish communities of Safed, Jerusalem.." If they're not Sovereign Israeli territory... they're not Israeli. "Kicking Jews from Hebron and other "settlements" ...' Illegal Israeli settlers "..amounts to ethnic cleansing - which amazingly remains the oldest, and most popular form of ethnic cleansing known" Plan Dalet.. "Jews and the Hebrew language are related to Arabs and Arabic, and are indigenous to the ME" Irrelevant to Sovereignty over territories.. "ALL Israel is under 1/10th of 1% of the Middle East." Irrelevant. We are a tiny minority. We were given enough territory for our homeland state for every Jewish person in the world. " ALL "Palestinians" also call themselves Arabs, who kicked most all the Jews from all Arab state" AFTER Plan Dalet began...
"Young Eliyahu showed great dignity and courage during this horrific time" Quite. Unfortunate choice of words though. This is indeed like the Old West in the times of the hostile colonizing American pioneers, natives defending their lands, until one or the other party is either wiped out or beaten into submission and packed away on reservations. Which is why there are laws now, prohibiting the illegal acquisition of other folk's territory by war.
"The right response will be building a memorial and a new settlment ASAP" What mind blowing arrogance....
"there was a time, that Arabs were admired for their cordiality and generosity" Was that before the Zionist colonization for a Greater Israel became apparent? "For Israel known for its humane and helpful character.." ..and 61 years of illegally acquiring other folks territory.. "..it is more and more difficult to maintain and regain that attitude.everybody looses" Quite.... everybody. Or is that too hard to comprehend.
this is sketchy, he was driving alone, so no one "saw" anything, then blame it on the "Palestinians"?how do you know it was not a domestic murder case? everything in the story is sketchy and based on circumstantial evidence. suddenly you have a precedent to incite hate by just blaming one race of people as supposed to an individual.
To protect Civilians. Break the conventions and Israeli civilians are put in danger. The 'territories occupied' are no place for Israeli settlers.
The son must be admired for his statement. Jews ARE different b/c they have been chosen by The Almighty for a specific purpose. They often suffer b/c of their uniqueness, but they must not give in to the same barbarity as most of the rest of humankind. May the Good Lord bless this young man and his entire family!
I do not know the ideaology of the Rabbi or his politics, or if he was targeted specifically because of his influence in the more radical settler movement that contradicts Israeli law. All deaths should be mourned, regardless of ethnicity or background. When the settler movement comes into direct conflict with the IDF and Shin Bet by thwarting Israeli law, it does give the Palestinian militants an excuse to commit murderous acts. The settlers and Knesset need to close ranks and stop fighting amongst each other. The Palestinians will likely accept Jewish settlements within what they consider their future state, but only if the settlers act as decent neighbors and obey the laws of their government.
Yes you are different... You settled on their back yard " land", destroy their homes, fields' olives & orange groves. you steel livestock, you have them in concentration camps or big open field jails. you killed their innocent people ( children, women, and men) you took away their normal way of life and turned it to a miserable one. The Palestinian people are the victim and the y will continue to be as such until you leave them a lone and let them be free. I can't wait to see you go back to wher you came from and let peace be between the two people in there free, independent, and secure borders.
while i admire the lad for his urging of restraint; i question his comment defining the difference between jews and palestinians...which reeks of extreme racism.
"The difference between us and them is that we are people, Jews, holy". Whata a hell does it means? The rest are beast, or what? Jews are saints?? C'mon! Israel terror policies to expulse palestinians for their lands is well known. Sometimes the poison from a snake can kill itself. You hurt, you be hurt.
Eve, after the Gaza withdrawal Israel kept its blockade on the strip.Monitored every border control, airspace,everything that moved into the strip, did nothing to help Fatah stay in power. As a result...further economic hardship which lead to rocket attacks. Fustration and desperation. Hamas had actually halted rocket attacks for 6 months but Israel did not honour its commitment of lifting the blockade. So #8 JJ is absolutely correct and an independant West bank is no threat to Israel as long as Israel leaves it alone. Isolated incidents however will always happen from both sides because of the hatred that has continued over the years as a result of so much death and brutality.
i believe that zionists are the ones to blame, as i've said many time before, the good will pay for the bad, what a shame, 7 kids and now no father, i feel sorry for him and his family, but do you people know now what the pals feel when their innocent kids and mothers are killed?.
to this ppl like Ms??Durson: There would be no problems if the Pal have accepted Israel in the first place in 1947, like the Israelis have accepted them, as long they will fight to send the Jews to the sea nothing will change, it will only make it worse.The Pals have been killing Israelis all over the world, not only in Israel since the UN proclaim in 1947 of the egsistance of Israel or you conveniently don't remember.If the Arabs in Palestine that's, right Arabs beckose they are the settlers that came to Palestine during the Ottoman and Roman occupation from different Arab countries wouldn't fight the Jews than we wouldn't have the problems today and tomorrow !
and your most favorite Ieshua was most certainly a Muslim ( actually, ET will do ) As far as land for murder... in that case Israel should be Russian. A nation that lost 50 million people in WWII deserves better than she gets world over. If not for valor of own soldiers and mothers, than for your frigging freedom to shprehen your mother tongue.
An eye for an eye exists in Judaism. Also, is it better to take people's land? Basil
The right response will be building a memorial and a new settlment ASAP.
I respectfully disagree with the notion that we jews don't have revenge in our blod. I think we have the most,maybe less tha the pursians.Look what we did with 85 year old Dimjanyuk. Dragged him to Israel,could'nt prove he was Evan the terrible.Released him. Then worked to strip his U.S.citizenship. Now we have him on a stretcher in Germany. All this is REVENGE,65 years later. We still hate the pursians since something has happened 2500 years ago with the two nations. I hope we are changing like the son of the teacher wants us to.
You can make up hundreds of articles similar to this one. It is a sad story, but what is more sad is that we look at only one side of the story and do not consider others.
Rockets into Israel!
People who destroy their neighbours fields
What an ugly act. The Rabbi's wife and children have my total sympathy. Young Eliyahu showed great dignity and courage during this horrific time. Unfortunately, this is like the Old West in the times of the American pioneers, hostile natives murdering settlers until one or the other party is either wiped out or beaten into submission and packed away on reservations.
However, for Israel to claim the Shin Bet prevented attacks is a joke. It was the PA that maintained security in the West Bank with the promise of an easing of restrictions against the Palestinians which turned out to be false. Obviously Israel seems to forget the campaign they launched on Gaza last year killing hundreds of innocents, and not accidentally. The settlers daily harassment, abuse, and violence towards the Palestinians in the West Bank which goes unpunished 99 percent of the time. Give me a break. These perpetrators of this attack against the Jewish squatter in Palestine should be punished to the fullest extent of the law, but let's not forget who is the occupied, and who is the occupier. On a positive note, MERRY CHRISTMAS to all my Palestinian brothers and sisters.
The Jewish communities of Safed, Jerusalem, Tiberias and more towns in Israel also are of the oldest Jewish settlements on earth, far older than any in Europe, continually settled by Jews centuries before Christianity and Islam existed, and since, long, long before the Arabian conquest of Israel in the 600s AD. Kicking Jews from Hebron and other "settlements" amounts to ethnic cleansing - which amazingly remains the oldest, and most popular form of ethnic cleansing known. And the multitudes of Israel-haters now, as in antiquity, support ethnic cleansing of Jews from Judea and Samaria as if this is the cure for all woes of the Middle East and the world. Jews and the Hebrew language are related to Arabs and Arabic, and are indigenous to the ME. ALL Israel is under 1/10th of 1% of the Middle East. ALL "Palestinians" also call themselves Arabs, who kicked most all the Jews from all Arab states and who have 21 states to occupy. Think on that a moment, all you "modern fair thinkers".
For those who are arguing this is why we need the raod-blocks to remain in place, I have another idea. Why not remove the settlement that this man was driving to out of the West Bank altogether (i.e., out of Palestinian lands)? Doesn't this make more sense? I am not justifying the murder, but I am offering the best way to prevent more of this happening in the future: remove the settlements now!
.These bullets were directed at all Israelis.there was a time, that Arabs were admired for their cordiality and generosity, a lot has changed since then. For Israel known for its humane and helpful character, it is more and more difficult to maintain and regain that attitude.everybody looses. roadblocks will be reinstalledwith justification
Find the terrorist/murderer, deport his family to Gaza and raze his home. Otherwise more murder.
That's one way of looking at it. Another way would be that it's the "direct result of occupying other people's land, and enslaving the inhabitants for the pleasure of the occupiers".
Balanced against the many hundreds of Palestinian civilians recently killed by Israel, one death is not much. Still, it will give Israelis something to froth at the mouth over. This is a healthy thing and, in their anger and misery, and thirst for revenge, maybe they will take a moment to reflect on how much cause they have given others recently for anger and misery and thirst for revenge.
free terrorists who really r only militants who kill jews. and he was only a settler, not an inhabitant, father, teacher, husband, of the holy land.Bibi, Barak resign!! get out!!
Maybe if Israel ceased stealing territory and colonizing in violation of International Law they would not keep getting attacked...end the occupation and remove the illegal settlers...you are going to have to anyway in the New Year. World opinion is stacked against you.
Palestinians whine and cry about roadblocks. Now we see why they are so necessary. Put them back up.