Security cabinet okays decision to expand ground operation in Lebanon

ISRAEL IS COMING IN AFTER YOU WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO HIDE NOW. WHATCHA GOING DO WHEN THEY THEY COME FOR YOU BAD BOYS BAD BOYS.

Tony , well said.... but unfortunately they have made so many enemies just for the people they killed 1300 and the injured people more than 3500. The US are testing their new weapons in Lebanon through the ISRAELI Vehicle. We all want peace in every single country. Let's say that us lebanese end this war with the isreali's do you think the extremists in other parts of the Middle East will leave israel alone. they have made so many enemies. Bush moved the attacks from his country to middle east and now he will just sit and watch.(good plan for a stupid thinker)

What's with all of the public advisories of what the IAF will do, when, how, etc. Why not give the arabs a blueprint while you're at it. Be quiet and do what you must. Period.

and I see it, I hear it and I have had to live with it .. I know me and I know my people .. I do nopt know you or your people. I know I am not a terrorist .. I know I have no interest to hurt you, I know I have no interest in you land .. and I know I want peace for all humanity ... I know that I could not stop laughing when the Egyptian guys were telling us that Jewish cars have gold plated wheels .. seriously they were like "dont they? really?" I know you are lied to because I talk to you and I listen to you .. You are not open to what we say .. Hizbollah is a terrorist group .. it targets innocent civillians and calls for Jihad .. you know exactly what that means .. and it isnt anything to do with Sheba Farms ..

Israel's policy expels 200.000 Lebanese who have american, european, canadian passports, The majority of them have western culture a anti-syrian santimentals, but they left Lebanon who remains? What's going on at next democratic elections in Lebanon? If win pro-hezballa parties what Israel going to do?

Israel's policy expels 200.000 Lebanese who have american, european, canadian passports, The majority of them have western culture a anti-syrian santimentals, but they left Lebanon who remains? What's going on at next democratic elections in LEBANON?? If win pro-hezballa parties what Israel going to do?

Hizbollah is not a terrorist group .. no .. they are really nice guys .. I would love to have them in my home .. as much as I would like a pedofile next to my kids .. I am sure that pedofiles do good things for people too .. doesnt stop them from being exactly what they are .. They offer you sweets and tell you to follow them .. no difference .. you are the child and they are abusing you ..

Such a great message.. Wish I could be so balanced if I were in the epicenter of the tragedy. We need more of these.

What you believe or what I believe is not relevant .. it is whether you are open to be objective .. and be prepared to admit when you are wrong. If you still believe Jenin was a masacre .. then I assure you nothing will open your eyes and you like it that way. The truth is not what you search for, an easy road is what you seek.

Are you the same Tod Zuckerman thanking the Christians for their support to Israel at the JPost talkback?

Two wrongs do not make a right. And what Israel has been doing for the past month, and continues to do, is not different than the horror that the terrorists inflict on us. This is very unfortunate; it makes it very hard now to sympathize with Israel's position and cause, where once it was justifiable at least in part, they have ruined it. It makes me terribly ashamed to admit that I am part Israeli because I do NOT want to be associated with such actions nor do I want to be judged for it. I don't know how they can recover from this but I hope they do.

End of the Kadima and the Return of 1973. Absolutely leaderless country with only one man in the cabinet, Tsipi Livni. Nobody in his right mind can defend the country and, at the same time accept orders from Condi. It is extremely dangerous and stupid thing to do. Chief of Staff should immediately resign if he is unable to persuade the Prime Minister to think of Israel only. Barak brought Israel a Second Intifada, and Olmert brought to us a Victorious Hesbollah. Olmert has a lot of practice in this avoidance of bold decision-making. Around twenty times the troops were concentrating at the Gaza border without entering. Kadima for all practical purposes is finished. Vivat Bibi and old Likud. We need Bibi now even as a Minister without Portfolio. Israel would rejoice of such news. The Wall yes, the disengagement - No. Isaac

Stop the killing now!

It is not your place to be ashamed of what you are .. it is for them to feel shame. not for G-ds sake, he gave us choice for ourselves .. but for our sake .. let us live in peace already ..

Dr. Rice earned her chance to fail. It wasn't given to her by liberals or others filled with guilt. Nevertheless she has reached a level of her incompetence and those whose lives our dependent on Olmert getting it right better start looking for a new horse.

Is there a war that is not cruel? I agree that it is incomprehensable that human behave in this way. It disgusts me, it really does, but unlike people who can not get over their own self importance, I am intellegent to understand that the world has things wrong with it and sitting on your butt letting others gets their hands dirty on your behalf does not make you a better person, just a selfish one. I know that for my sins I will pay, but by G-ds hand, not them and not world opinion. If I had another option I would take it, but there is no other option but to fight terrorists. The longer you do not, the bigger the war in the end. As sorry and inexcusable it is for even one civillians to die, this war is not suffering huge casulaties. There will be natural disasters that in seconds do far more damage .. disasters that could have been avoided .. much as the UN could have avoided this. It is too late to cry now. Where was your voice for the past 6 years? Learn from it!!

Number One. Never underestimate your enemy. Number Two. Don't allow yourselves to be manipulated into a humungous stuff-up by people (Bush) who hope your stuff-up will make his stuff-up not seem so bad after all. Number Three. Try something new, like peace - it costs a hell of a lot less in every way. At the end of it, you might even have made a few friends.........

Terrorists in the ME are like roaches and no matter what pesticide you use, they'll always be back, it's just a matter of time. The trick is to use the most powerful pesticide you can get your hands on without it doing harm to yourself. Problem is Israel's current leadership and previous Leftist governments chose a roach motel as the best solution instead of industrial strength Raid but never anticipated getting caught in the same gucky stuff. One tactic that hasn?t been tried yet might be to get Mark Lincoln imbedded with the Hizbollah fighters. Just a week before the fighting began, he was advocating right here on Talkback a deal between Hamas and Israel based on what he called ?a successful secret deal between Hizbollah and Israel that brought quiet to the North of Israel?. And this is coming from a person who claims to be following ME politics for more than 40 years. With Moobat Mark on Hizbollah?s side, we would surely win !

you are livine in london and you dont know whats happen here in lebanon hizbollah its resistence and el djihad israel is state of teroriste with us and uk ok

A good Jew is no different from a good person. It is a person who has choices and choses them. A person who is not always perfect, but aspires to be. It is a person who feels fear, failure, humility and limitation as easily as they feel happiness, success, respect and imagination.. In my opinion, only one who aspires to be good as choice is seen by G-d. To follow a religion blinding out of duty totally missed the point. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2967276362246845611&q

Hezbollah claims to have @5000 fighters out of which 2000 are elite fighters. It will be in a growth phase if this war continues.

1. The "Army" that attacked the Rabbis was not Israel. Maybe someone else will recognize them. 2. The voice of the rabbi, with no pictures, was also not an Israeli. 3. Yes, we have a less than 2% sector of the Ultra Ultra Orthodox movement that beleive in that until the Mashiach will come, Israel does not exist. That is a very different issue from conquering Palestinians. To explain to you what is a Jew. That is easy. It is a person blood from a Jewish mother. generally a Jewish father also. We do not invite converts. It is sometimes seen as an "elitist movement". However, as the wars of history have proven. It is more to prevent the forcable convertions of the likes of .. oh lets say Hitler, or more relevant today the purpose of Jihad. My war with Jihad is a simple one. They hate me most because they can not convert me. and they know it .. I am and always will be their biggest problem in achieving their goals http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2967276362246845611&q

Hello, I am lebanese. I am 9 years old. Israel soldiers and bombs kill my father and my mother and my older sister had no more leg. I also got hurt but I am ok now but i see other people dead and I cry. Some of my friends and parents are die too. Please don't attack my country anymore please. I don't want to die or lose my sister anymore. Please Israel to stop killing us. stop hurting us. don't kill me. I am little girl. i am so sad. goodbye.

I am a Southerner, and perhaps I should not be saying this, but I admire General William Sherman during the American Civil War who did not sweat civilian casualties, but he got the job done and brought victory to the North, and total destruction to the South. War is War, and this is exactly what is going on in Israel-Lebanon. In addition, General Grant had all the time in the world to lay siege to Vicksburg, Mississippi, and to starve out the local population. General Grant did not have Kofi Annan and the United Nations breathing down his neck. Therefore, Israel must act, and act quickly.

I would love to know how an educated person who is more than capable of reading and writing can possible have such a distorted view of facts? It is astonishing to me that people like you exist, but it astonishes me that they exist also .. so I guess man kind just likes brainwashing .. maybe its easier not to think about the complexity of issues ..

Israel's military advantage will eventually prevail over Hezbollah in the South. What everybody fails to see, is what will happen afterwards especially if the U.N. keeps bickering over a resolution. Israeli troops will be sitting ducks and we will have a second Iraq in Lebanon. Incredible how Israel can't learn from others' mistakes.

You figured it dude!

Israel can count on the Americans for as long as the oil lasts. without the oil, israel is useless. once an alternative energy is found, america won't be eager to give israel billions of dollars every year. In 100 years, oil will be gone...and Israel will have no one to depend upon. then Israel will be sorry it did not cultivate better relationships with its neighbours. Why is Israeli leadership so shortsighted? Israel needs someone with vision. Plus, constantly fighting with the neighbours and hiding in bomb shelters isn't exactly a gratifying existence. For how many more hundred years would Israelis like to live this way? even one year of peace and friendship is better than a thousand years of continuous tears, fear, hostility and life. What happened to dreams of peace, prosperity, progress, and wealth....or have we all become cynics? when did we start believing that war could be a means for peace,safety? you either believe in war or peace. never both.

Israel must bomb the Iranian Embassy in Beirut to smoke them out. Iran would be forced to engage Israel or engage in threats. If Iran decides the former, then the US or nukes are an option. If they chose the latter, then we have a bully who is all talk and no action. Nevertheless, it is time to bring them to the table because the international community will never have the guts.

She is a woman, she is black and she is politically correct. When you have all of the laws of the United States discriminating in your favor, and are saying the thing that the folks who have the money want said. What stand in your was. Uncle Tom was dealing the best he could with a bad hand. Condi made the most of the great hand the liberals dealt her.

Your most amazing comment to date: "You ever consider that taking hostages might have been motivated by Nasrallah's needing to win some glory to avoid losing control of his militia?" I had no idea that Nasrallah risked losing control over his militia. Either, as I have said, you are unusually well informed, or else you are making this up. Whatever the case, once I have given it some thought, it is just possible that Nasrallah was looking for some Arab glory and thought he could have it on the cheap. Nevertheless, since he also seems to have been preparing for war for six years, with the help of Iran and probably others, it always comes back to the same point that the initial attack was a calculated provocation. All of those climatized bunkers, all of those rockets, all of those lethal missiles from Iran, all the risks taken--no they could not be done just for the glory of one man, however power hungry.

Go for it, so it'll be over with. but how many fighter's do they really have. I really believe the death numders are exagerrated

Israel is the big looser in this war...IDF is killing mostly civilians and infrastructure and the hate wave in the ME will last for decades to come. Stop now before it is too late!!!

Let's start with your first two points. You say that Hizbollah makes more use of Iran than Iran does of Hizbollah; and that Iran is using Hizbollah, but Hizbollah is using Iran. I shall not even bother with the circular aspect of your argument. Let me just say that without Iran Hizbollah would be nothing, whereas Iran could perfectly well do without Hizbollah. Hizbollah's need is not only political, but military, and its military need could not be fulfilled by any other power that I can think of except Iran. Then you claim that Hizbollah's negotiations with the ruling coalition involved what to do if Israel attacked. I have no idea what those negotiations were, and I wonder how you would know, unless you have contacts at the highest levels of that coalition. Whatever the case might be, I fail to see why they would need to worry about an attack from Israel, unless they were planning an attack on Israel themselves.

How about you get the surrounding people to stop attacking, rocketing,suicide bombing, cross border raiding and we'll shut the *^%up about our pathetic survival issues. At the risk of rehashing, hizbullah made an unprovoked attack Israel not the other way around. If you're going to use palestinians as a reason for Lebanon to commit an act of war what does that mean? Any arab that has a grievance is grounds for separate and distinct other countries to attack Israel? That is the way it works, we understand that, and you understand that as well, that is why it is a survival issue.

Haaretz please put out...

In the meantime, Israel has weakened itself, by opening up a second front, battling both Hamas and Hezbollah and on both ends of the country. What will this mean for Israel if the US if forced to withdraw troops from Iraq and go home? They`ve stirred up a hornets nest, and are sitting in the middle of an angry swarm! Such is karma! http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta305.htm Note: the USA will withdraw all troops from Iraq when the tectonic plate "North America" will blow off and USA will not be the giant anymore and big karma upon USA, lol lots of laughs. As an ex-christian, I say: "ALLUHA AKBAR!"

STOP TAKING LOSSES IDF, stop taking losses, give diplomacy a chance and use that time for better planning, obviously your intelligence sucks. If diplomacy prevails, then you will save many lives. If not you still save many lives by executing newer plans that work. The Lebanese Army might do the job for you and stop Hezbollah peacefully or politically. Give them the benefits of the doubt. Peace for all.

Based on the facts from the ground, it seems that the mission to destroy Hezbollah will take months not days and it will be very costly, that is if it is possible to win it. This dangerous militia army plans for lots of surprises to come. IDF, you better be ready to take a huge loss to achieve your goal. I think that goal is worth fighting for, but be a fighter and aim at military not civilians.

"re you brainwashed?" - Joyce No, old as I am my mind is full of delightfully dirty thoughts. But don't worry Joyce, none of them involve you.

greasy propaganda. Who belongs where, who came from where, whose G-D is better, whose book is badder. Olmy and Almy are two sides of the same coin. Give up the Wall, open it up to the friendlies. A garrison state with siege mentality will not last, they never do. Welcome halal, it's only kosher. Make sure everyone has a gun and knows how to use it. A fully armed nation cannot be invaded successfully. Reward the friendlies with warmth and fun.

The bellicose nuke 'em all message is a sure sign of the strategic blunder that this war has been right from the start. When the IDF takes that inevitable first step back then Hezbollah will declare victory (and quite rightly). Sure Lebanon will be little more than a pile of rubble but they'll get plenty of help to rebuild. Meanwhile Israel's enemies will have more than doubled in number and more than doubled in resolve. Israel evokes fear in the world because of the massive economic and military power of it's patron state and Israeli's shouldn't mistake the (relative) lack of criticism of their warmongering for tacit approval. This war will cloud Israel's relationship with the world for generations to come.

TWO WRONGS DO NOT MAKE A RIGHT Israel could have done any of the following: - Commandos can Kidnap Hezbollah leaders - Workout a swap of prisoners - Go to UN and complain - Get international forces to deploy in South - Special Operations to weaken Hezbollah only They did the mistake of their lives, now the world started to hate Israel for their bloody actions. They look as bad as Hezbollah, Good job Israel for joining the list of terrorists countries. The definition of terrorism is killing civillians (bombing buildings) and destroying infrastructure (like 911) to attain political objectives. Both sides are doing the same thing.

Look at the picture of Olmert at the top of the page. Says it all.

I agree with your statement, it will serve good for both countries and the region.

Now that the massive `boots on the ground` had been finally signed on, there is my nagging concern of increased casualties, attributed directly to politicians continuing to run (& drag) this campaign instead of military, under US urgency of restrain. I know Israel will eventually prevail & I am humanist too, Mr. Olmert but I am sorry, I do not buy politics in the S. Lebanon buffer zone, when the Israeli solders have to be killed in droves by retaking already cleared out villages because the terrorist are allowed to pop in & out of the bunkers, & set the rules of combat as they please. It has been circulated where the Nasrallah probably laughing at you from, the Iranian know how involved everywhere, & anybody who wants do get paid are recruited to join the `resistance`, so the prolonged campaign may refill the ranks of the terrorists. I would also be concerned & planning something in case Hezbollah executes Zelzal from the Syrian side of the border to punctuate the `grand finale`.

I'm not sure if I'm the Adam you've indicated in your note, but since I did post a note yesterday to Zadok the Priest regarding his attempt to smear Lincoln with the charge of anti-Semitism, I'll take the liberty of responding. So you claim that Lincoln has made some prejudicial remarks about Jews on this site, specifically with regard to the Holocaust, is that right? I haven't read any such posts so I have no way of verifying your claim. Nor have I seen any indication of anti-Semitism in any of Lincoln's posts that I've read. I don't think it does any good for the cause of Israel or, more broadly Jews in general, to associate criticism of Israel's policies with anti-Semitism unless there is in fact clear proof that this is the case. Perhaps you feel otherwise.

"Hezbelloh was created by Iran" - Joyce, from somewhere between Orange and El Paso. No Joyce, Hisbollah was created in response to the Israeli invasion and occupation of Lebanon in 1982. "They are OCCUPIERS of Lebanon." - Joyce They are Lebanese. "Ezekiel 38-39" - Joyce Deuteronomy 28:26

Here are some of the doctored photos I mentioned earlier. This showed up in New York Times (liberal newspaper) http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51456

Condi's fighting abilities were developed at Stanford University as a Provost. I know that Palo Alto is a rough town but it hardly can prepare her to advise a military Illiterate like Olmert. IDF soldiers die because Israel's political leadership doesn't know how to fight a winning war. If Olmert loses there is no do over.

This operation has gotten out of hand. Too many casualties, it has lost its justification. ENOUGH! Stop this war, it can only get worse. I am ashamed to be Israeli, these actions are a disgrace! Our government is acting like terrorists, without value for human life. Terrible. Terrible! Stop being arrogant and do the right thing.

You're totally crazy. You're not from Israel when you are asking for the Nuclear bomb. All those who are in favor of nuking Lebanon, Syria and/or Iran should be put intp mental institutions asap. They don't know what they are talking about ! I think they are US citizens far away from the battlefield, on a very comfortable distance. Not surprising the Israeli people are not so in favor for a Nuke war as well as the Europeans are. To nearby, to much danger for themselves !

Cipora, Hizbollah makes more use of Iran than Iran does of Hizbollah. Calm down and consider carefully your opponent's position. Research his position. Look at the chess board from his side if that helps you to see. Ranting about Iran does not change reality. Iran is using Hizbollah, but Hizbollah is using Iran. Nasrallah's motivations have far more to do with Lebanon than Hizbollah. Last spring there were negotiations going on between Hizbollah politicians and the rest of the ruling coalition. The issues were what to do if Israel attacked, and how to integrate Hisbollah's small army and larger militia into the Lebanese Army. You ever consider that taking hostages, might have been motivated by Nasrallah needing to win some glory to avoid loosing control of his militia? You pay any attention to the byzantine world of Lebanese politics Cipora? I do not like right-wing religious fanatics Cipora. But they are my enemy, and I try to understand them for self defense.

i guess idf should consider expanding the war across the whole planet earth...which will approximately take about 2,000 years to complete...

Hezbelloh was created by Iran. They are OCCUPIERS of Lebanon. They fired at Israel first. Do you think the US & Israel put them up to this to have an excuse to go into Lebanon? You need to get out more and watch news by someone other then AlJazeerah. You want Russia to come help the "terrorists Arabs?" They will; read Ezekiel 38/39. Buffet time!

You fight guerrilla. Do not makes mistakes Germans did in Yugoslavia. Instead of massive ground which sounds as thousands of soldiers march, split them in smaller combat units which come as a comb. I feel sorry I am not there to help with some advices.

it doesn't matter whether Irael wins or loses as long as during the ceasefire, America can station lots of troops there to "Protect" Israel from attacks. of course, israel would like to win because after all, Bullies rely on their seeming invincibility to strike fear..just like the mongols....but if it doesn't , it's ok too... only a long war is needed to somehow get the americans involved. Israel is just a pawn. Israelis are being used and they think they are fighting for survival. Give me a break. No one will kill you. drop the victimhood crap. the only reason no one likes Israel is because it is so violent to palestinians. otherwise, Arabs will have no problems with you. It's not about being a Jew. it's not about antisemitism. It's about stealing land, killing others, telling lies, not keeping promises, destroying lives, and making palestinian, lebanese life a living hell. So please shut the *^% up about your pathetic survival issues!

247# The 'Canadian Jew' is a 'Blatant Lier' He did not mentioned not even one word in his posting about the rockets Hezbollah showering Israel ! He wants to show himself as a compassionate human being all he shows in his posting, he is just a sub-human lier unworthy of listening to. He is a disgrace to any cause and he is doomed with those he support. Just like Hozbollah hiding among women and children and sending kids to fight for them. Cowards living in the dark. There must be no platform for liers in 'talkback' Akram Zekaria

how about algebra and chemistry ignorant? learn history.also, terrosrism was absent before israel's birth. you get the drift?

It seems like the United States and Israel really want an "international force" at the border. That is why Olmert scoffs at the idea of the Lebanese army as does the US. It's obvious why. The best way the United States can get military entry and therefore dominate and control Lebanon is to LEAD an international force there. They might set up base in Lebanon and send tons of troops there and stay forever since the Hizballah will never die if the US doesn't think it will. Israel wants to escalate the war and make it so difficult that an international force lead by US will be needed eventually to maintain ceasefire forever. And then the US can watch over Syria and maybe attack Syria one day. Then it will attack Iran. and then the whole middle east will look like Iraq. then puppet gov'ts dictators will be installed, kill insurgents and US controls all oil in world. China and Russia! what are you waiting for?? Get a move on it !! Help the Arabs now.

You and your Iranian goons will be defeated. The entire world will know that Iran, not your pathetic Hizbollah, is in fact fighting Israel. The world will know that Iran has taken over little Lebanon and that you are nothing but a traitor and an Iranian puppet. Your words are nothing but empty boasting and bombast and they bring shame on your people.

"Olmert Needs to Go" - Tod Zuckerman At the very least he should get moving.

Mike Wallace CBS News Interview w/Iran's President: "You'll find him an interesting man," he said. "I expected more of a firebrand. I don't think he has the slightest doubt about how he feels ... about the American administration and the Zionist state. He comes across as more rational than I had expected."

Looks like Israel is getting ready for the "grande finale" ... let's see who is gonna have the last word, this time ... Looks like Israel will push HISBOLAH to bomb Tel-Aviv ... that will make things really irecoverable! SHAME!

Yep, that's the lies that are taught at birth so Arabs can live everyday thinking about murder, murder of Jews. Israel BELONGS to the Jewish people; EZ38 God told that they would return, which they did in 1948. Now how many ACRES surround Israel that belongs to Arabs? Too many to count; Jews aren't even allowed to have land the size of California. Can't have their temple in Jerusalem which is spoken of REPEATEDLY in the Bible but Koran mentions it none. Arabs defile other peoples landmarks, religion, and teachings...nothing will make Arabs happy except killing all Jews and Christians and anyone else who doesn't follow the false prophet Mohammed. I know Haaretz won't post this...I said something negative about Arabs and Mohammed; only allow to speak evil against Jews and Christians. Prove me wrong Haaretz. Who cares who I make mad; it's on me.. My views expressed do not reflect Haaretz, the Jewish people or any affiliates. But it is TRUE!

When interviewed a few hours ago about increased Israeli ground troop activity. He leads an enemy that by its own definition excludes Hisbala from any peaceful settlement.

You got my vote to expand the ground opertion but do it alot quicker. What really ticks me off is that the Arab League does not mention anything about Hezbollah starting this and did not mention anything about them at the United Nations in New York. When you get Hassan Nasrallah he will be forgotton just like Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and any other terrorist.

They will not stop what their doing. Send in Lebanese or Int'l troops won't make any difference. Do you think Hezbollah respects the Lebanese Govt, their people or their soldiers? You are mistaken. The radical element that are protesting around the world will be on their way to Iran and then to Lebanon. They just want Jews dead and this would be a good time as any, ESPECIALLY since so many people love lies and are sympathetic to the liars.

Ka You talk about a viable livable solution. What is it? describe it instead of calling me hypocrit. May be I will find it fair. This is the issue with, when you find the dicussion is going not to your direction, others become mistrutfull, liars and/or hypocrit. Ka, you do not want to negociate peace, you want us to surrender and to accept your conditions ! I am sad because this will not happen and war will continue for long. Again, I ask you, describe what you consider a fair solution to the palestinian issue. Or even describe what you consider as a viable livable solution. Please include in your describtion 3 items 1- land including Jerusalem 2- Refugees 3- water I have the feeling that you will not answer me because your solution is not a lot different than the extremist israeli solution. I hope I am wrong.

I guess you ignore the fact that Hezbollah uses the civilians as human shields. Hezbollah started this. Stay in Canada and don't worry about what Israel does; they certainly don't need your permission or any other self-hating Jew to be in their corner. You probably watch Arab television and the liberal CNN to get your information. Did you see the many "doctored" photos? Same "victim" pulled out of a building w/no dust on him is the same guy in another photo working as a rescue worker. How many disabled children planted in Quan w/rocket on bldg? Building collapsed 8 hrs later. Love that large banner of Condi w/the blood in her mouth put up the same day...geeze, what printing shop do they have? That would take a month to make w/the level of detail and quality. Take the bliders off and smell the roses. Jews have enough haters out there w/out their "own" being on the side of the enemies.

It is unfortunate that this accidental war occurred. Do you think a Prime Minister from either Labor or Likud would have let this esculate to the point of no return? I think Israel has fallen into a trap in Lebanon. It is like Russia in Chechen or the U.S. in Iraq, Israel will be stuck in a quagmire. What happens when an armed truce is implemented? Rebuilding of Beirut? Israelis moving south of the border? It is very easy to start a war; very difficult to win a war; and nearly impossible to find a peaceful solution. This war, in my opinion, is not a war on terrorism. It is stubbornness of the leaders on both side to find a solution. They are both pawns of the U.S. or of Iran. It is so very disappointing.

Says thus: 1. Reaffirms its call for the strict respect of the sovereignty, territorial integrity, unity, and political independence of Lebanon under the sole and exclusive authority of the Government of Lebanon throughout Lebanon; 2. Calls upon all remaining foreign forces to withdraw from Lebanon; 3. Calls for the disbanding and disarmament of all Lebanese and non- Lebanese militias; 4. Supports the extension of the control of the Government of Lebanon over all Lebanese territory. 1&2 would appear to mean Israel yes? Or is it not bound by the UN?

Alex, this is the difference between you and I. I call for a full solution in the middle east, while you call only for partial solutions. I believe that without a full negaciated solution, no peace will be established in the region, while you think that force can submit people.

So, Nasrallah, so your Islamofacists are dug in well. Guess what. The gloves are off. The BLU-118/B is a penetrating warhead filled with an advanced thermobaric explosive that, when detonated, generates higher sustained blast pressures in confined spaces such as tunnels and underground facilities. The BLU-118/B uses the same penetrator body as the standard BLU-109 weapon. The significant difference is the replacement of the high explosive fill with a new thermobaric explosive that provides increased lethality in confined spaces. Good Bye Hezbollah

Jeff (AN ADDENDUM) Went back just a few minutes after sending you a response.Ruth was right.What happens is the headlines change accordingly and no culpability on Haaretz.The reason is,and only right,that they do not put it out straight away.NOT UNTIL THE FAMILIES ARE NOTIFIED.That is a correct way of course.They were reservists incidently.And many more injured. The IDF killed 37 Hezbollahs fighters at the same time.The Israeli killed was the result of "Mines"!!Several injured.Those damn mines Jeff,is there no way they can detect the mines? I hope this comes out and Ruth Gold can see it... HAARETZ PLEASE PUT OUT THIS ONE AND THE PREVIOUS ONE TO JEFF A FEW MINUTES AGO...

David, according to your response, I am very pessimestic concerning peace. Concerning the recognition of the state of Israel by Arab, it was offered during a summit in Beirut of all Arab Leader under the condition of the application of the 242 resolution. It is called the Saudi plan.

After the blatant fiasco of the Rome meeting, to seek peace in Lebanon, I'm wondering if the italian politicians are able at all to lead the nation in the midst of war-mongers that could really involve the nation in peacekeeping projects that have nothing to do with peacekeeping (Iraq docet)! What makes me say this is the fact that the only nation that is really making politics in Europe is France (agree or not)! Not a word from our politicians for a renewed appeal to PEACE! The Lord HELP US! Mario Fiorito

Jeff Earlier I sent a response concerning the 15 killed today by the IDF were the hezbollah fighters.And not!the other way around. Here comes Ruth Gold saying that the 15 killed were the IDF.I checked and re-checked and I was right.I don't know where Ruth Gold got her information from,which doesn't tally with mine. Jeff,did you also hear that the 15 killed were iranians?It seems the case,and we surely are not surprised about this.Knowing how well the HEZis are doing well with the provision of weaponry by the iranians,also that they have the revolutionary guards doing a lot of the work there. By the way, the tanks,and many more have not crossed over as yet.At least the Fox journalist did not say,but that there are very many tanks etc,(will not go into it here)ready to go in.Let us wish them luck and hopefully there will not be too many caualties. Vain hope or not,we must pray if we can...

Iranian fighters' "dead bodies" in the battlefield....For god sake how would these media be able to publish this kind of things? do they think we are stupid? and they would leave documents with them telling that they are Iranians? Can anybody say that a dead body is Lebanese or Syrian or Iraqi or Palestinian or Greek or Turkish or Italian or"Iranian" or even Jewish? Shame on you...We deserve more than this ideot news.

in 1st day olmert promised in 7-10 days to disarm hizbollah & to push them 30 km from border & after 1 month of this campaign during which tens of soldiers & citizens were killed ,hundreds wounded & thousands left their houses & rockets falling as rain , olmert says he is expanding ground operation.what they were doing for one month? or olmert thinks that israel people are DUMB?

It will just push more Lebanese towards Hizbollah. Now already 85 % of Lebanese (including 80 % of Christians) are behind Hizbullah. This is the result of indiscriminate killing and destruction. Israel's goal is to turn Lebanon into a desert. Because a desert means no Hizbullah...

The Israelis are always the last to know in this day and age.

Jacob: Thanks for sharing this point of view, you are so right, why should I bother getting upset with more than half of the posts on thi forum

you read it ,it says that all armed person not of the govt forces are to dis arm,that means hizbollah,and if the un will enforce this res. before they start to make any more this can stop now

you forget that the arabs excel at failure... name one success, terrorism excluded

it only purposely targets civillians to defend the israeli army and hides behind them as a human sheild. of course theyre a terrorist group.

That old dipomatic dance, we call appeasement will be presented to the puppetmater, President Mahmoud Amadineyad of The Islamic Republic of Iran, wetting his irrational course for unlimited expansion of Shiite power to his neigbors. The British and French chose the path of diplomatic engagement and compromise and Hilter threw it back in their face. In the Iranian mad dreams of Ahmadineyad he will be neither disuaded by compromise nor deterred by armanement. "For Diplomacy doesn't cause wars-men who substitute violence for diplomacy do." ( said the Marxist historian Eric Hobsbawn). Thus a far greater war is on the horizon.

sorry my brother you living in canada not in middeleast hizbollah is not terorist group

Since the advent of Israel, Arab leaders have been urging its citizens to fight the Jews for some great cause. There is no cause. Its a lie. They say its to get their land back, but it was never theirs. Poor Arab citizens, they fell for this crap. HT

go get them my brothers! hezbulla uses human shields and the IDF stands up to shield Israel from hezbulla. wipe out each and every last one of those muslim terrorist varmints once and for all. peace by victory only. NO NEGOTIATIONS. most of the USA has your back and always will. God bless the IDF and Israel

With all due respect, you are getting sucked in. All you accomplish is acknowledging the soapbox that they stand on. This in and of itself grants them a legitimacy. NOW they are not just ranting, but debating. They are not interested in your opinions, but just by posting you are letting them know that someone is hearing, This only encourages them. This is similar to what you wrote about the wars that the Arabs won; merely because they killed 10 Jews. The cost of 1000 Arabs is inconsequential to the Arab leaders and lay people.

"During a break in the cabinet meeting, Olmert telephoned U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice to provide her with an update on the situation." - Benn, Rosner & Harel Bush must be too busy clearing brush and worrying about his new neighbor, Cindy Sheehan, to take Olmert's call.

Wonderful. I just read that more than 1000 people died in Lebanon. I just get the proof of what I have been thinking since more than a month: this "war" was a huge mistake. Sending more troops will make the situation even more grotesque...good luck in this lost war. Welcome to Irak & Vietnam. Welcome to the New World Order!

Help me here - you're talking about Israel? Check out UN Resolution 1559. Then send Olmert to the Hague.

Overwhelming ground force is needed now or Israel faces annihilation by the Islamist Fascists who are getting ready to use even more powerful weapons including nuclear. Iran and Syria must not see Israel as a Paper Tiger. It`s do it now or soon Israel will have to attack Iran.

Steve, That is the most sense I have read all day. Thank you for saying what those who support Hezbollah need to hear over and over and over again.

you go girl

Fox News reports that two long columns of IDF armored vehicles have crossed into Lebanon on the eastern front as of 2100 Hrs. today (Israeli time). Expect a similar thrust on the western front to seize Tyre in the west soon. There will be IDF casualties, but I would expect that Hezbollah will suffer a lot more. Congratulations, Nasrallah, you have just managed to destroy southern Lebanon at the request of your masters in Tehran.

election purposes, while the fight or Israeli presence in Lebanon continues, we have a ring of fire extending from the far east to the middle east.I hate to think that this administration is guided by the likes of Pat Robertson, but its policy is frightenly dangerous. This is not good.The USA preemptively, rejected the Lebanese proposal, and thus sabotaged any possibilty that Olmert might consider the offer or any variation of it.This administration is to thr right of Likud when it comes to Syria and Iran and that is the main concern.We saw the results of their policy in Iraq, and we should be afraid of the future.

Nasrallah this evening warned all Arabs living in Haifa to leave the city for their own safety (ring a bell, anyone??). In other words, get out of the way while I kill the Jews. Then you can come back. Now the proof is in the pudding. All those pro-Palestinians who accuse Israel of ethnic cleansing in 1948 - this is an exact reply of that strategy back in 1948. By the way, most of Haifa Palestinians did not leave then (that is why Haifa has such a alrge Arab population) and I presume they will not leave now. Not a single one would relish the thought of becoming a refugee either under Hamas nor in Lebanon.

It's terrible to see Israel being taken over by the wimps but what can we expect from this Prime Minister when he has a family full 'Peacniks,' his ridiculous wife, and his army-evading and conscientious objector sons who will not serve on the West Bank. We need a Prime Minister with some REAL military experience.

bye bye

gg

That's right. We must confront Iran and Syria now. It will only get worse by postponing the inevitable. The next missiles, in the next war, will contain nuclear warheads.

u know what this is the last time i response bec u seen un educated and ignorant person. why dont u go to www.fromisraeltolebanon.com and tell me who is the savage killing our children and womens cutting of all of our bridges our factories!!!!!! dont tell me we are the bad people bec u are and the world knows it too so good luck to u my friend but one last thing WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND god be with lebanon

You say: take out Syria the war will end. So easy? Do you think that Syria is your sister or what?

1, You make every attempt to demoralize Israel, but you will not succeed. Israel is totally united, from left to right. All Israelis know that this is a necessary and just war, and there is nothing you can say that will change the Israeli's mind. 2, You all want Israel to win in a few weeks, while of course many secretly hoping for at least a draw. Yet you all ignore the fact that Hizbollah has been actively preparing for this war for the past six years with the help of Iran and Syria. It is therefore disingenuous to pretend that Israel is fighting a few thousand rag tag thugs with no training and no equipment. 3, Although every single lost or wounded soldier pains us deeply, we know that without sacrifice, there can be no victory. The morale of the troops and of the people is high and will remain high as it was the case throughout Israel's history. 4, The PM may not be a military man, but unlike in totalitarian countries, he cannot make decisions alone. All decisions are collective

undone by his jealousy of mark lincoln's brilliance

OF LATE Absolute Sweden?I noticed in past few forums your responses have been a bit skewed and not your normal nice self.Change of heart? Not feeling well,or what is it that made the way you respond these days,you have altered so much.Or maybe someone else has grabbed your key board? Funny that.Oh nevermind,forget it...

So stop TALKING already and go and FIGHT. PLEASE! Defend him with your evil hearts and violent blood and brainless minds. The sooner you go, the sooner you will die, and the world will be free of despicable tyrants and bloodthirsty savages like nasrallah. From Hitler, Lenin, and Stalin to Saddam, bin Laden, and nasrallah, there are always evil monsters who want to impose their vile ideas on the rest of us. Soon he too shall "rest" in peace.

The real problem is the utter lack of accountability of arab leadership in the middle east. From Lebanon allowing Hezbollah to operate freely from within their borders to Syria and Iran funding this terrorist group there is no accountability whatsoever. The casualties incurred in Lebanon are the fault of this lack of leadership. Leaders are supposed to do what is best for the people in their country. As long as the desire to destroy Israel is more important than the lives of their own people, the wars in the middle east will continue. The only shame felt by anyonbe should be those who support Hezbollah who are using the Lebanese people as human shields. The blood is on all of their hands.

THE NEW HEZBOLAH FIGHTERS ARE THE CHILDREN WHO SURVIVED THE QANA MASSACRE OF 1996?I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THAT AND EVEN IT IS SO,WHAT IS THE PURPOSE?MORE OF THE SAME BRAINWASHING BY THEIR ELDERS WHO SIT AT HOME AND ARE LIVING COMFORTABLY.SHAME ON THEM DON'T YOU THINK SO HMMMM NK? THEN I SAY BUGGER ALL TO THEM,(SORY ABOUT MY EXPLITIVE)BUT TRUTH IS ALL I CAN OFFER TO YOU.THEY WILL THEN DIE ONCE AGAIND NK. AND WHAT WILL THEY HAVE ACHIEVED?NOT A DIME'S WORTH.AND WHO ON EARTH CARES,THEIR CHOISE AND THAT IS IT NK...

TO END THE WAR NOW WOULD CLAIM VICTORY FOR TERROR, FASCIST CORRUPT REGIMES, THAT HAVE ZERO TOLERANCE TO HUMANITY.

A priest without a temple. No wonder he is coming undone. He's running amok looking for a sacrificial victim.

thank you so much for those words, you are right

you're just a crazy freeper....

I wont say that I understand your frustration but I will say that I sympithize. That solution would be fine if everyone had the same opinion. The reason for the bloodshed is b/c there is no mutual agreement in the first place so to just sit back and say "Enough" and point your finger and shake ur head, is not enough and is not even worth taking the time or breath to say or post.

The 'wavering' thing was a classic disinformation. The cabinet had rubber stamped a move long in the planning and well coordinated with and blessed(pushed!) by the US. The time for speculation is over. Hundreds of tanks will roam in southern Lebanon, presumably with the primary goal to push Hizballah way north and put northern Israel out of the Katyush range. All that remains is for us to watch over the next two weeks and see how it is being played out. By the end of that period we and the world will have pretty good idea who won who lost. Let the good times roll.

I realize it must be difficult for you to come to grips with the concept that a Leader is actually concerned about his people. Olmert isn't hiding casualties, as they get reported on a daily basis, with news on the hour every hour, after the families have been notified. How does Lebanon of July 11th compare to the Lebanon of today? Considering that hizbullah put all this into motion with the attack on the moshav Shlomi and the killing, kidnapping of Israeli soldiers, you'd imagine they had some kind of plan to defend Lebanon. Did they? hizbullah has succeeded in watching their country get destroyed, people killed, not able to defend anything or anybody. Their country is going up in flames because they wanted to free Samir Kuntar, and as far as you're concerned they are doing a good job. I guess if you're suicidal you don't mind as long as you can take a few others with you. Then again, being suicidal, there isn't any reasoning with you, enjoy your trip.

It's really disturbing to see how many people who sit on the sidelines are waiting to throw their support behind fascists like Hezbollah. And it would be funny, if it wasn't so sad, that they do it in the name of being good liberals. A person can be disgusted by Olmert's "strategic" bombing that has cost the lives of so many innocent people, and still recognize that the people of Israel never wanted this war, and never provoked it, and want the hostilities to stop once and for all and as soon as possible. Do all the so-called lefties in Europe and Australia have so little sense of fairness and justice that they can't recognize that? And by the way, folks can talk about UN resolutions and "illegal Israeli aggression" all they want, but don't forget that by UN resolution, Hezbollah isn't supposed to be an armed militia in the first place.

Finally!!! "the cabinet" gets around to doing the right thing .... hopefully not too late to actually accomplish anything.

Perhaps you do not know that around 200 bombs are falling on Israeli civilians daily. Intentionally targeted civilians. But you know that, don't you luwa!

This decesion is bringing more troubles to ur people. Israel will never live in peace with us unless they agrees to give big our rights Hezbulah shows how week and fauge is israeel regards

hi stupido do you ever heard about the radiation and earthquake 200mile auround the epicenter???

Wonder why this post got censored .............. But of course, Israel is a democracy and its media free and fair.

What a silly question? Why do I have to regard any group as good or bad. That's not the way I see people. There are good Jews, Americans, Arabs, Lebanese, Italians, etc as well as bad ones. I do not judge a person's "goodness" by his religion, but by his ideas and actions, attitudes and feelings. There are religious Jews that I wouldn't want to associate with and secular ones I love, and the opposite. What the hell does religion have to do with anything? There are people who agree with every word I say and I am not particularly fond of them, and others I am mad about although they argue with everything I say! That's why that movie is BS and you know it. Now do some growing up, open yur eyes, and don't buy into obvious propaganda, wherever it comes from.

man, u are really really sick

Your hero only told warned Arab residents of Haifa to leave. He doesn't mind if Jews stay and get hurt. He'a pathetic, pretending to be "humane" suddenly, adopting Israel's tactic to reduce vicilian casualties. Very cynical indeed.

As Israel invades deeper into Lebanon, destroying everything in its wake, will that be sufficient reason to involve the militaries of Egypt, Syria and Jordan? Will it be the straw that broke the camels back and force those same coauntires to expel the Israeli and US ambassadors from their countries and recall theirs from Tel Aviv and Washington? Will it be sufficient for the oil countries to enforce a boycott on all shipments to the US?

hark lincoln and his gems.the arch left-winger abusing the left.

Would a single one of us here appreciate a bomb falling through the air towards us? Or bullets being fired by soldiers in the grip of war-fever at us? Would any of us here want to lose our child, our son or daughter, or our mother or father, let alone grandma and grandfather, for any of this? Do YOU want to see someone lose their child, or family member.... I forget, I DID read many of the above responses, and there were people who wanted the bloodshed to continue. Shame on each and every one of you who advocates war, death, fear and anti-love. Think of the children, all of them, and the women. On both and all sides. Do you really want a bomb falling on YOURhead, or your child's, or family members? It's a disgrace to be a human being in this 21st century. Thank you Israel, for killing God again.

Olmert waiting for the UN is a big mistake. There is no way that the UN will give anything short of a victory to the Arabs. Over precious time they will make the US give in. Israel will not get any of it's points particularly the soldiers or Hizballah disarmed. there is no doubt of that in anyone's mind. every day we delay we will get hit with 200 katushas and Nasrallah will plan a big finale for Haifa before a forced ceasefire.

fighting this war in conventional way is stupid in the 21 centuary. Israel will have to nuke Lebanon, from Litani to Tripoli or use chemicals. None of our boys must die over this scum, Lebaniese people let the Hesbollah stay, now they will have to pay the price.

..... The 19th century Pussian stategist Karl Von Clausewitz emphasized the direct challenges of battle. Clausewitz wrote "War is a continuation of national policy by other means," he also notes "the bloody solution, the destruction of the enemy forces, is the fristborn son of war,"and "let us not hear of generals who conquer without bloodshed." It is important to remember, that the rules or war are not GENERAL prescriptions, always to be applied in all situations. Rather they are guidelines for determining solutions based on the specfic circumstances in which a commander finds himself. While a nations might destroy the enemy's army to achieve a national purpose, the destruction of that army is only a means to the end, it is not its goal.

Sure god will not save Israel .and for those who believes the gathering of Jews in Israel is a prerequisite for the second coming of the Christ . I say that the Christ will not come on the massacres and blood shed of innocents kids ..it is logic is not it and he will not come for those denied him in the first place?and even the Zionist church admit that two third of Jews will be wiped by the coming of the Christ?you can check this in this link. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/10/03/60minutes/main524268.shtml you can find this paragraph: However, the plot is ripped from the pages of the Bible, so it all winds up here in Israel where, according to the Book of Revelations, the final battle in the history of the future will be fought on an ancient battlefield in northern Israel called Armageddon. It will follow seven years of tribulation during which the earth will be shaken by such disasters that previous human history will seem like a day in the country. The blood will rise as high as a horse?s bridle at Armageddon, before Christ triumphs to begin his 1,000-year rule. And the Jews? Well, two-thirds of them will have been wiped out by now. But the survivors will accept Jesus at last.

I am glad your parnets are ok,i am doing just fine were i am.

I would not say he is worried I would say he is concerned about civilians dying...he doesnt want to do that...he never was an Army person...more an intellectual than a brutal... He is definitly pushed to do this by the Army the US and Hizbola...

When is this war end? I don't feel it will end. I feel that if it goes, Hezbollah will hit Tel-Aviv and attack the nuclear weapons ground in Tel-Aviv and this will be more than 300 000 deaths for the Jews. Or, this will continue till Israel kills at least a million Lebanese citizens (all the Shias). And than, Syria will put her nose and Iran and Russia and China and Venezuala and Cuba and it's going to be a war between ex-communist and the USA. Israel will disapear, Lebanon too and we're gonna watch who will be the next America, China maybe? So, this is better if the war stop now and Israel makes a deal with the Lebanese governement, put an international army with the Lebanese one on the border and that Israel will withdraw from Lebanon's soil and both sides exchange the prisonners. The end !

Many Lebanese I regularly socialize here in NYC care much more about Lebanon than the Palestinian problem (except for the fact that there are many Palestinians living in Lebanon in camps, which are virtually states within a state). I see no end in sight for the Palestinian issue as Palestinian society is now completely lawless, unrational and illogical. Hizbullah's perceived success in forcing Israel's withdrawal from Lebanon played a role in the latest tensions between Israel & Palestinians. Also, Iran and Syria have been actively using Hizbollah to further radicalize Palestinians. If Hezbollah is neutralized, Syria and Iran would not be able to use their proxy close by. Neither Lebanon nor Israel would have a peace & quiet on their mutual border until Hizbullah is crushed, weakend & disarmed just like all other militias. Otherwise, Walid Jumblatt, Christians and Sunni would once again start organizing their own militias, you might even have yet another civil war.

Let the IDF do its job without Olmert and his political interference. The IDF knows much better than Olmert how to cunduct this war and win with the least amount of casualties. Olmert should step down right now and give his resignation to President Katzav

Well Alan What say you dear man.Will you or not??

this is the situation--psychology psychotherapy psychiatry hinduism jainism yogism christianism islamism judaism satanism consumerism are but symptoms of theternal dis-ease of DUALITY for which there is only ONE cure namely to live in the state of EXPERIENTIAL KNOWINGNESS that comes from abandoning the conditioned identity and the individual becoming the eternal ID-ENTITY--ragnarok approaches!!--all will be caste down and broken--more than love

Daniella Let Israel deal with the more soft target Syria!That is the better option,even though I agree with you that the big threat is Iran! But it requires the leaders of the past to do this job,and not the present ones we have.Also cicumstances have changed drastically during these past few years,beginning with 9/11 U.S.A,Madrid,London,Balli and the rest. You see the reaction of Chirac and his pandering to the Arabs.Why don't you people march against his soft approach?Also we must concider you are ruled by the 6 million muslims in your country Daniella?Morem or less that is. The the problem for all the European countries to date.Cannot offer anything more appropriate to this subject although I am with you a 100%...

Stephanie, there won't be 72 virgins awaiting for him in the place he's going to, that's for sure. Moreover, one day, mentioning of nasrullah's name would be accompanied with a curse in Lebanon too. You'll end up in jail that way, as nasrulla's organization is called "terrorist" by the government of this country. Perhaps Michigan would be less fitting place for you if you want to fight with your heart & blood. Go to Lebanon then.

unfortunatly Un resolution would not solve anything at all. For a start it is highly unlikely israel would give up these so called occupied territories gained during the 1967, 6 day war. also it also requires teh arab states to recognise israel as a legitimate stae and homeladn of teh jews. this was the casue of all the troubles in the first place, the fact that these arab states could not accept israe's existence in teh first place led to the 6 day war and hence occupation of these territories. hence article 242 is unjust and israel would gain nothing in return. i do agree with u however that the civilians are the true losers and lets hope that there will b a long term peace in the middle east.

Olmert is hiding real casualties says Hassan Nassrallah! Is it true Haaretz? i dont know All i see is that IDF changed the head of operations All I see is IDF still on the borders All I see is 300 missiles per day All I see is Israelis casualties are soldiers All I see is more civilian Dead Women and Children in lebanon All I see is civil structures destroyed by IDF (bridges...fuel tanks...water tanks...roads...hospitals...electricity ... airports...Fuel in the sea.... All i can say is : you are surely on your way for victory over hizbollah

anyone sees the face of olmert yesterday knows the real situation. i waited to see anyone ask him how he said that 70% of hezballah power is destroyed then 350 rockets landed on israel and near tel aviv killing 12 soldiers and about 7 people ..but none asked ..

I don't think Head-Banging on a wailing-wall will do israel good nowadays! Allowing gays into the IDF seems to be upsetting there god!

as usual israel is hiding loses...even when 12 soldiers were killed at once at kfar gilad about 3 days ago they said it is 10 then they increeased one every two hours while in aljazaeera nd elmanar they said 12 since early time....this hiding means failure

Psychopaths are the greatest threat to any nation. We need to identify those who are prepared to hurt innocent people to feed their hatred and perverted lust for revenge. Those who speak for complete and utter destruction. We need to disarm those people, making sure they'll never get in a position where they can do harm. Let's call the campaign "War on Psychopaths". ------------ This message is a reply to Brad who wrote #397(excerpt): "...It`s time to give Iran and Syria a 48 hour ultimatum to either cease sponsoring terror or face complete and utter destruction. It is time for Israel to take back the West Bank - the Palestinians don`t want it and ultimately their quality of life will improve if Israel usurps all of Palestine. Israel: flourish the cutter bombs, gas, and everything available for the final battle and ultimate humilation of the genocidal Arab regimes. Forget Lebanon - take back the West Bank.

in haartz ;they wrote Thousands of pets left starving in North as owners flee from rockets. really all must laugh .what a kind heart whereas on the other side more than 1000 lebanese kids are killed and more are seriously wounded .others lost hearing .and all without houses .... what is this?..the israelis calim to fight terror..ok wait for the real terror from now on...from those kids who see or lost their families an dhomes..dont blame anyone but yourself...

The Israeli government should've exhausted all the diplomatic channels not before the war, but before even Hezbollah kidnaped the 2 soldiers. The Israeli government should've released the Lebanese prisoners and left the Shebafarms long time ago and may be signed some kind of peace agreement with the Lebanese. Real Estate greed is working.

When Haaretz say 1 soldier wounded, a few hours after that means 2 killed. So is that true that 40 were killed today in an Hezbollah's attack ?

re friendly fire etc may your ill intentions towards the jewish rebound on you.

people like you taught the israelis to do what they are doing now. why don't you grow your hair, remove all your piercings and get a job. punk days are over kid.

Hahahaha You wish that a rocket would hit nasrallah no one is gona hurt him i promise you that we will all fight for him and defend him with our hearts and blood so get that in ur brain

Olmert's got the 'slows.' What did Lincoln say to McClellan, 'If you're not going to use the army, can I borrow it.' This is about what's going on in Israel today. Very sad to watch this pathetic, henpecked dear waver in the headlihgts while the whole Jewish people, both in Israel and abroad take the consequences.

i may agree with you but best not to use rude vocabulary.

They're around, they're fine and they thank you for your concern. Now go and lie down.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,31200-galloway_060806,00.html

People are dying every single day and all you care about is spendig some time with the HOT IDF SOLDIERS.. HOW SHALLOW AND STUPID IS THAT?

Mario A very well put out response.But decisions will have to be taken one way or another. What to do is the ultimate thought,and you are right.I sent a couple of responses rather belligerently thinking that our armies are for that purpose.Then I read yours that sounds more logical than my rash thoughts.One must imagine why P.M Olmert seems to be hesitant. Israel is not fighting these people to gain victory.We don't need any proof that we are more advanced and superior.We just need security and the attacks that never stopped since I can remember--although they were very casual and infrequent.Not like this retaliatory one from the HEZES,who attacked a soverign country,crossed over and kidnapped soldiers.That is unacceptable,and requires dealing with it...

nobody seems to mention this

Seeing this video: http://www.youtube.com/v/iss8qyCu-tI Who is the good Jew one ?

JEWS AND YANKEES GO HOME, LEAVE LEBANON! YOU WILL NOT WIN , NEVER, NEVER. BUT FOR SURE YOU ACQUIRE MORE AND MORE ENEMIES IN ALL THE WORLD WISHING YOU ALL THE WORST. ALL THE WORST TAHT CAN HAPPEN. THE FATE OF THESE POOR LEBANSE CHILDREN. LET YOUR CHILDREN EXPERIENECE THE SAME. I WISH THAT WITH ALL MY HEART.

Israel should insist on a peace treaty with Lebanon as the sole condition for withdrawl of forces. If the Lebanese government agrees, then great. But if they refuse, then they show the world that their much-touted democratic government is no better than other Middle-Eastern dictatorships bent on Israel's destruction. In either case, it's a win-win diplomatic coup for israel.

you ask for the signature of God, so i would have to use the bible.If you would like the verse i can give it to you.

"Have you seen hizbollah tell any one that they need to clear out because they are going to strike? " Nasrallah did it! Still right now on TV. And your government agree with Nasrallah on the evacuation of people from the North. That's a good sign. They can communicate.

"that the maginot line was a great success?" Wasn't it then? Only the Germans circumvented it. The Germans pierced through the French/Belgian lines in the Ardennes, the weakliest defended spot. That made the Maginot Line irrelevant.

Well Leb, seeing as your beloved terorists call themselves "The Party of God", claiming it is their god given right and duty to protect Arab lands, please can you show me your deed where God has given Israel to the Arabs. And while you are about it, please tell me how many ties Jerusalem is mentioned in the Quoran, and where. I am really interested. ANd while you are at it, did your God really tell you to scream "God is Great" every time you kill a heathen? Funny the very people claiming to be upholding the wishes and honor of Allah hoose to deride and mosck Jews from believing in their Bible.

I'm a proud Jew and not at all happy with the zionist Israeli evil actions...what makes beleive all of us with this destructive zionist policiy...stop kidding yourself..this war will cause more problems then ever..its Neocon war not ours...work towards Peace Jack..go on

Sara, the hate you feel can never even come close to the levels of hatred I have for muslims and Arabs in particular. You live in Michigan, but for how long? Your time in the US is coming to a close and soon there will be no more of you to pollute this country. You do not need to go to lebanon for we will give you holy war where you live. This is not a threat but a warning: leave while you still can.

You mean just like those maricas in Uruguay? One Israeli can kick 100 Hezbollah or uruguayan butts. Hezbollah and all who support them are evil loser.

Go change your name silly boy. Ask your mommy first though.

Tell the truth 4 once and save urself alot energy...u r a living lies,fake and ur claims no longer effective...The world have discovered that in the last few years,more so in the last 30 days...EVIL EVIL LOT,and the decent Jewish people should stand up & say so...

"Any connection between Gulf War Syndrome and depleted uranium exposure is purely speculative, because all studies claiming such a link fail to demonstrate that those afflicted by the illness have increased uranium in their bodies," - Astasheiks Agreed, I have seen no connection proven. It will be noted, however, that the armed forces of the US treat DU dust as a hazardous waste and areas contaminated by it as dangerous. I think the Gulf War link is a hobby horse of the left, and a red herring for the right. The toxic effects of Uranium, especially finely dispersed oxides and salts, are not disputed. Folks waving the 'Gulf War Syndrome" flag on either side are full of crap.

Israel needs to go door to door to disarm Hezbollah. If we keep dropping bombs Hezbollah wins sympathy from the world by using innocent civilians as human shields.

I was away from my P.C for an hour or so,and during that interval the headline changed from Olmert's prouncement--of"Mulling" to "avering"Now I came back and headline changed and he is cautiously approving it.With some timidity of course,and do not blame him. Fears of casualties naturally.But that is what armies are for and what they do.Sorry to even think about it Mark... What on earth is going on?You are either desicive and get down to it(Much as I do not like it for obvious reasons)or put your hands up and surrender...

Where are your mom, and dad,you need to find them and ask them what your name is, then we can talk.

50 years from now? How can that be, when there will not be any Muslims around any longer? This is just the beginning, and get ready for complete destruction of Arab lands. They won't be able to pick their noses, let alone start a fight. Muslims are cowards, and have not succeeded at anything in the history of the world. In 50 years, Islam will be looked back on as an old evil religion that is no more. Muslims win? Give me a break, have they ever won a battle? Weaklings is what they are and you know that to be true. Look at their wastelands they have they call countries? Look how their dirty people live. They are a cursed people and Mohamad is gay.

Hizballah: From July 12 Until Aug 8, (58) Killed and around 90 Wounded, IDF: Over 70 Killed and Over 400 Wounded, we know IDF lies, we know olmert so far and his GOV!!! new info Could be found (Vcoders Org) and see the truth of the July 12 ATTACK...ISraeli was Inside Lebanese Soil when Hizballah attack them ....TRUTH always Will reveal on time . God Bless Both Sides Dead SOULS

u will all die israelies if you will not leave lebanon alone! Now, all haifa residence must leave, next week, tell avive residents will leave too!!! ask ur government to stop the war, or u will all die

And how would you feel if one of the soldiers kidnapped/captured was your brother? or a best friend? Would you try to talk peace with those morons? Because if you did, they would win by default, and guess what? More abductions would come because they would know that Israel is scared of Hezbollah and its their weakness. At least now the whole Arab World will understand not to mess with Israel. It will use all its resources to defend itself and prevent any future attacks. Stand behind your borthers, sisters and firends in this difficult time. Don't support Hezbollah tactics, as they will ruin your country in the end!

Nobody owes you an explanation of who is a Jew. Go and read a book.

Alex, I am happy to hear that your aunt and her family are safe and those are not just words. The less casualty and the sooner this war ends the better for everyone. Hizbollah is only the last created organization that is fighting Israel. Defeat it as you have defeated others and you will only have other organization created. As long as you don't solve the main issue which is the arab israeli conflict and mainly the Palestinian Israeli one, no one will be able to get sustainable peace, you or us. This conflict has lasted too long. There is a basis to end it. It is called the resolution 242 of the united nations. Lets negociate on this basis. Finally, I agree with you, the biggest losers are the Israeli and Lebanese civilians. I call on you to see the big picture, not only as you say Shebaa farms or the prisonners

In the war where existense is the cause of fighting the only way is to win, no matter how much the losses are. If Hezbollah stays in the South region, Israel will be doomed within next 10 years or so. They will get nukes from Iran if Iran is not dealt with by the World. So if you think Israel is going to just pull back with tail between its legs, you are DEAD WRONG! Israel will press on with its offensive. You see, the biggest problem is that like many here mention Israel IDF is fighting with one hand tied behind their back, they cant unleash at their full might. However, with each new strategy, they are slowly untying that hand and soon Hezzi's will see what IDF is trully all about. Press on my brothers and sisters!

Finally a post from someone who has added 2 + 2 & got 4!! All the liberal left go on about is it's somehow our fault or US foreign policy to blame for all this evil. I say there is a problem with Islam. Like Josef points out, its strange why all this death & violence only seems to errupt when muslims are around. Sometimes you need to fight fire with fire - in the case of the Iranian/Syrian stooge that is Hizbollah, overwhelming fire power & total destruction of their capabilities is the only way forward. The Lebanese have not got the bottle to do the job, so Israel must do it for the sake of humanity. I want a jihad-free world! You compromise with islamofaschism at your peril.

Have you ever been in war?I have, one the ground shooting people,and i will tell you that there is a differance.How do you know that there was 67 civilians killed? Just because so news group says so. I have seen pictures of hizbollah, and they didn't have uniforms on, they had on plain clothes, but they were standing by anti air craft guns and the like. No one on this planet wants to kill childern, i would even say that about Hizbollah,some times it happens that doesn't make it right, i also have first hand accounts of how some groups use civilians to hid behind them along side of them, i have seen this with my own eyes. Have you seen hizbollah tell any one that they need to clear out because they are going to strike?The idea is find yor target off guard, not tell every body that your coming get out.I also have not seen Hizbollah hit much of anything that was not civilian.I have fought this war before, and can tell it is hard, some people get hurt or killed that are not supposed to.

There are far more Lebanese prisoners in Syria than there are in Israel (very few in Israel in fact, at least one guilty of smashing the head of a 4 year old israeli girl against a rock then killing her father). What I want to know is why Nasrallah did not attack Syria instead, demanding the release of its prisoners? Wouldn't that have been more logical - considering his and all you idiots claiming that that was his reason for killing and abducting Israeli soldiers in the first place?

This is not a war of existence,it was not a neccesary war. If it were, I would be there as I was when I lived in Israel. --Sure you would Yaacov. Care to tell me what *is* or would be a necessary war? Seriously. Under what circumstances would Israel be fighting a just war in your eyes? To stop Iran from getting nukes? Or would it only be after the state that has sworn itself to Israel's destruction had them???? This war has been a war of choice ---A strawman. All wars are "wars of choice," Yaacov. The US had a choice after Pearl Harbour, no? They weren't really facing an existential threat were they? Or do you think the US made the wrong move then too? "This war like the action in Gaza was planned before any soldiers were kidnapped." --Of course it was; that's what miltary preparedness is. "Hezbollah,an organisaton with which I am not in accord" --oh ho! Good for you, Yaacov. A bad word--not too bad though, for Hezbollah. Tell me, why does H have so many rockets? For fun????

adam i think you may have asked for forthright statements re mark lncoln's jew phobia? i do remember on more then one occasion he made malicious remarks on events associated with the great tragedy suffered during the years 1940-45.

Bill While I agree with you in Olmert's case Halutz' is an Air-Force general and a specialist in his field.That is why Kaplinsky was chosen to addres the issue in the north being of The "Gollany Brigade" and hopefully this may improve the situation and advance our capabilities.Time will tell...

You are no Jew. The Arabs attacked in 1948 and have been in a state of war ever since - wanting to kill Jews. That included those carefree, coffee drinking, fun people, the Lebanese. What do you expect: capitulation?

You are welcome to believe whatever you wish. No skin off my back.

n for nudnik i presume?

Oh dear. You're not very well are you? Try and rest a bit.

GOC Northern Command Maj.-Gen. Udi Adam was "sacked" because he wanted a full ground invasion the cabinet votes to allow for just such and we are to believe that Olmert is even considering it? Nonsense, that's what it is pure nonsense and probablt to pressure the French to not stand up to the US for a fair resolution. Now will the French buy that, nah?

still spouting off on militray matters.are you the same mark who once opined that the maginot line was a great success? cheers mark or should i say cheer leaders?

a "fair" solution for the pals would be the right of return...but this would lead to our destruction..as u know. A "fair" solution for us is for a Pal state to be made but not only from Israel land in an area solution. Leb..all the time u seek fair, right, solutions then seeing as u seem to think that israel has no right to the land then what do u propose? U are not seeking a 2 state solution..you are playing a game. Let's not talk fair...I don't think there is a totally fair solution for the Pals or the I's. I was thinking viable, livable acceptable...something that woule enable both people to gain a country at peace by surrendering some of the "right" of the matter. Bye

Hi Allen, Can you give me the document with authentic signature of God that gives them the occupied territories. I am a non believer so Torah, Bible and Coran are not accepted.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,31200-galloway_060806,00.html

"first you need flat land for sharpshooters" no mustapha all we need is for a grinning face to pop out from behind a window and we would hopefully shatter aforementioned grinning face.

It is accompanied by some reliable international force.And the ones I would chose would be,the Turks and Germans.That is providing they would like to take part in it. Not any of the others which they have had stationed there for decades.I mean the Unifil comprising of inefectual types,from equally countries who belong to despicable human rights and dictatorial regimes!They have been there for decades and let things progress from bad to worse...

http://www.youtube.com/v/iss8qyCu-tI

Syria and Iran need to be given a 48 hour ultimatium to quit sponsoring terror!!! http://www.prince.org/msg/105/172854

George. Who is paying you for stupidities and misinformation you are writing. Remember, that all wars were started by arabs. And arabs lost all the wars until now. Minority of arabs and muslims are thinking that they can kill innocent people all over the world, without being punished. It is a thinking of primitive people. I present you this revew: In Sudan 2,4mil. dead, In Algeria 80 th. dead, in rest of Africa 100 th. dead, in Kasmir 40th. dead, in Russia / the best arab friend, and best killer of muslims 500th. dead. in rest of Asia 30th.dead. in Europa cca 300th. dead /mostly in former Jugoslavia/ in North America 3000 dead, In rest of world where muslim are living and meeting other civilization many th. dead. Why in the areas where muslims are meeting other civilization so many dead. Think about it. I explain you later.

In short the report under health concerns seems to suggest their is no direct link between du causing illnesses as suggested by Freaky Dicks Chimp post #34

Shame on Israel and those who blindly support them, the American Evangelicals!!

WAS NOT A GENERAL,BEGIN WAS NOT EITHER.BUT THEY BOTH CARRIED THE DAY. ONE THING IS CERTAIN.NO MORE MULLING OR WAVERING,AS MUCH AS I IT,AFTER ALL THAT IS WHAT ARMIES ARE FOR & DO.THEY FIGHT AND UNFORTUNATLY SOME DO PERISH IN THEIR ENDEVOUR.MUCH AS I HATE IT AND WORRY ABOUT IT. PRAY FOR THE IDF,IAF AND MOST IMPORTANTLY THE GROUND FORCES WHO WILL HAVE TO FACE THE ENEMY. GOD BE WITH THEM ALL. THIS TIME AROUND IT HAS TO BE DESICIVE AND WE MUST THINK ABOUT THEM ALL. Please excuse the caps...

Omert and Peretz, you've deceived us all. This war should have ended in the first days. Israel's international standing takes a very deep dive. Stop now, it's enough!

Ahh Gee whiz thier European. I thought Hezbollah's July 12th incusion across the Lebonese-Israeli boarder and killing of eight Isreali soilders and that abduction of two Isreali soilders was considered an act of war. Or the fact that Hezbollah fired 150 missles into Isreal on July 13th was a act of war. In Fact the GERMAN newspaper Der Spiegel on July 24th 2006 wrote an article intitled "Why Isreals Reaction is Right' By Matthias Kuntzel.. With editorials stating it was a act of war.....ahh gee me thinks you just twadled thier European or you are just old fashioned tellor of untruths European.

Any connection between Gulf War Syndrome and depleted uranium exposure is purely speculative, because all studies claiming such a link fail to demonstrate that those afflicted by the illness have increased uranium in their bodies, in comparison to those who also served in the Gulf and did not get the illness. In fact, one study shows that just the opposite is true. A number of soldiers were identified with DU fragments in their bodies following friendly fire incidents. There was no increase in health problems in this group, despite the relatively high amount of uranium in their bodies and urine. [22] A two year study headed by Sandia National Laboratories? Al Marshall analyzed potential health effects associated with accidental exposure to depleted uranium during the 1991 Gulf War. Marshall?s study concluded that the reports of serious health risks from DU exposure are not supported by veteran medical statistics and were consistent with earlier studies form Los Alamos and the New En

The ball is now firmly at PM Olmert's foot....whether to give the go-ahead for an expanded ground operations. The price will definitely be high; perhaps casualties of ground troops in hundreds rather than tens. Success is uncertain and the possibility of another indefinite 'quagmire' as with the previous occupation almost a certainty even if successful. It is looking more and more like the US returning to Vietnam! If he gives the go-ahead, the PM will be remembered long after he leaves office; perhaps for the wrong reasons. Give peace a chance instead.

Can anybody tell me how many Lebanese are held prisoners in Israel? In all cases PLEASE keep Samir Quntar in prison

He is guilty of inciting to violence and murder sooner or later my dear

Because no success, Israel try a new strategy. Try and try with new military action , Israel will perhaps win the war, but for what price? They have already calculate their death soldier, astimation 100 to 200 soldiers. And how many civilian?

This is just a other exuse to carry on killing and plundering a sovrieng country instead of talking to the to find a solution to the conflict.Olmert and Nasrallah talk to each other STOP THE WAR

ARe you sure, Hesham the number is not 4,000 ? Also, is your source Mr. Comical Ali ? Is there any reason why hizbulla wouldn't comment on their own losses ?

40000000000000000000 arab babies chances of living a life of dignity. they ruin the chanceof avoiding the destiny of thir parents that live in humilliation and defeat by the Israel and the west in general since the time they became a decadent inmoral cruel barbarian and uncivilized society enjoy it

George, United Nations and world community had certified that there is no longer any border dispute between Israel and Lebanon. Shebaa Farms was formerly Syrian territory, according to all maps in existance. If one state chooses to kidnap soldies from another, it should pay the consequences. Occupation of Lebanon came in response to Palestinian attacks coming from Lebanon's territory. I won't even stress the fact that Lebanon participated in 1948 agression against Israel. AS to prisoners - except for a killer of a 4 year old Israeli girl, monster by the name of Kuntar, there harddly are any Lebanese prisoners in Israel's prisons (now of course, there are more than a few hizbullah warming prison cells). Why Lebanon or hizbullah did not evacuate any civilians from a war zone, just like any normal state does at war ? Any response, Georgie ?

I hope that the war will end too and peace will prevail

please blast hizbollah without trying to kill civilians

Leb, Israel didn't want this war. Ever since the pullout from S. Lebanon, Israel did not have any territorial issues with Lebanon (except for hizbulla and Syrian puppet government that came up with Shebaa Farms, which according to all maps & U.N is formerly Syrian territory). Ask ANY Israeli - they want to have peace with Lebanon and distinguish Lebanese from Hizbullah. Except for Samir Kuntar (did I misspell it), there were no Lebanese in Israel's prisons. I understand your frustration, but I also know that my aunt's house was destroyed in Karmiel in the beginning of this conflict by Hizbulla rockets and by miracle no one in my family died. If you want sustainable peace with Israel, you should know that Hizbullah stands for the destruction of Israel, nothing else. The organization calls for deaths of all Jews and with their attacks on Jewishs community center in Buenos-Aires they proved what they are after. The biggest losers, however are Lebanese & Israeli civilians.

It's a fair game. You have occupied Lebanon for decades and your army still occupies lebanon today, and at the start of the conflict. You hold thousands of prisoners unjustly and without trial. You assasinate leaders that you don't like and then you kill innocent people, capture land from all of your neighbors, kill indiscriminantly, create humanitarian and psychological crisis...and then....act like you're the victim to the whole world.

But now we are ahead of the Others.

This is going on far too long. Enter a cease-fire instead of endangering the lives of our soldiers for some unrealistic purposes. Don't leave the soldiers another 30 days in this quagmire - GET THEM OUT.

THe jig is up....I wish Hizbollah would disappear -- they and other terrorists caused all this and i'm sick and tire from iran, syria, hizbollah, hamas, fatah, islamic jihad, muslim brotherhood and all the other terrorists who hijacked islam... for god's sake -- let us live in peace already...

Latest news: military commandos from Hizboallah entered an Israel's camp killing 40 Soldiers

Eric, sure, talking is great when the government is 1) willing to listen 2)willing to take action 3)doesnt cry on TV and begs for mercy OK, so number one may apply in a good way during the talks but we all know it very well by now that Lebanese officials bow down to Hezbollah terror apparatus and would not take any action. That is presisely why they are getting destroyed right now by IDF and IAF. You can't talk to a government that is afraid to take any action, the government that has Hezbollah reps in it. It is pointless. The only way is the military way. This was an unavoidable war. You can't talk peace with terrorists, why cant you all understand that?! Sure, Lebanese want to live in peace, but Hezbollah doesnt. Its terrible that innocent people have to sacrifice their lives to teach these thugs a lesson. May peace prevail one day in the ME!

1. Hizbollah threat will be neutralized. 2. Iran and Syria will be rightfully blamed for creating the circumstances that started this war in the first place. 3. Lebanon learns a hard lesson on how to be a good neighbor. 4. The world is better positioned to fight the next battle in the continuing war against terrorism.