Russia to supply Iran with S-300 defense systems

a: the iranians can work this thing effectively b: the IDF don't already know this thing inside-out c: the russians and israelis have somehow colluded on 'messing with' the capabilites of the iranian model? i wouldn't put it past the russians!

russia should sellS300 TO IRAN as they deal to given it

Why should Russia be asked to hold on to the S300, defensive shields, When Russia is not allowed to have a say of the arms sale to Israel,Egypt and Georgia. + + +

# 114 Carter, We are fed up of hearing Carter !

Israel doesn't pay for the stuff anyway, working or not!!!

why worry about them? Seems I recall the Patriot was touted, didn't hit one target, though they lied and said it did. That dog don't hunt!!!

"Israel should not allow Iran to have these anti-aircraft missiles", who died and left you/Israel boss? Exactly what do you contemplate doing about it in the event things don't go your way? Russia/China ain't gonna let the West solely control that oil. Does Israel have oil? Israelis didn't help themselves with Dubai fiasco, if true. Keeps you in the headlines!!! Tea? So you want the US to go to war with the Bear, because Israel doesn't want Iran to have something to shoot down enemy planes violating their airspace. Does Israel have any neighbors she hasn't bombed, while squatting on land? Stop warmongering and dreaming of warmongering. Israel'srequest is stupid and fair minded countries view it as such, esp after Georgia fiasco. Or, did you forget.

Israel's been living by the sword since it's creation in '48. Does that mean that it will...?

# 112 ziggy leb. Ha! Ha! Ha! HaaaH ! "He who laughs last,laughs loudest." What a pity,in a way. No Lebanon left ! At least the world won't hear the Sobbing,Crying,& Cringing. Only the howling winds descending from the Souf mountains down the valley.!

when the US gave you dummy bombs to hit Lebanon you were laughing and happy now after that S300 you start criing. there is a french proverb that says qui rira le dernier means how laugh at the end guess what this is the begining wait till these s300 reach Lebanon ha ha ha ha ha guess who is laughing now ME. Bring it on IDF IAF. this time al sayyed will tell you look at your F16 dropping left and right ha ha ha

"The US and Israel told the Russians that if they sell this system to Iran, they will make sure to defeat the system (if not done so already). That will compromise Russian`s main air-defence system." - Dan from Haifa That is a good fantasy Dan. Russia sold a S-300PMU1 system to the USA long ago. It has been extensively tested and simulators devised for Red Flag training exercises. US units practice against a variety of defensive systems and aircraft all the time Dan. The 119 Squadron (The Bat Squadron), equipped with F-16I from Ramon Air Base, participated in Red Flat 09-4 just last July. How could your imagined 'threat' be true Dan?

"S-300 itself will be a target for unmanned weapons, cruise missiles, etc." - Pedro First you have to know where it is. Then you have to hit it. The entire system is mobile, and capable of being ready in about 15 minutes from halting movement. The S-300PMU1 system has a Pk of .7 against tactical ballistic missiles and higher against cruise missiles. The S-300PM1 would significantly complicate any strike against Iran.

"it is the s-300 f were talking bout" - Watcher The S-300F is a ship based system (SA-N-6). "it`s max speed is mach 8 it has a 150 kg warhead" - Watcher The initial velocity of the 9M96E2 missile is 1,900 meters per second which would be mach 5.58 at sea level on a standard day. The warhead weight for the 9M96E2 is 24 kg warhead. "not even the iaf has the capability to neutralize this system.by the way..." - watcher There are electronic counter measures available to drastically reduce the system's effectiveness. "even stealth technology will not help bombing iran caus i`ve caught infos that there are passiv radar systems beeing deployed in iran....they prepare and no one responds" - watcher Don' bogart that joint my friend, pass it over to me. "and after having all millitary caps needed the will turn their oil market to EURO and kill the USA without firing one single bullet!" - ibid Come to think of it, keep that dope to yourself.

Blows Iran up .

netanyahu give putin the finger last year when he accused russia of supplying missiles to iran via ship?you know the story of hijacked ship which was buried by media.why send ship halfway around world when they could have been shipped via caspian?and yahoo made trip to moscow right after?paybacks can be a bitch.

S-300 itself will be a target for unmanned weapons, cruise missiles, etc.

Silly Dan. The US and Israel would never have made such a puerile threat. Obviously the US and Israel and Chinese and so on will seek to defeat defense systems and seek to design new defense systems to overcome attackers own developments that may threaten to overcome old defense measures ad infinitum. Its a given and is a continual process since the beginning of warfare. Not a case of 'threatening to design a countermeasure unless they refuse to supply Iran' !! Frankly that is incredible. You obviously have no idea what has or has not been said. Though it seems pretty likely that Israel and the US are none too pleased with the prospect of the S 300 sale going through. What even a fellow like you should be able to figure out, is that if the US or Israel have a worthwhile measure to defeat or disable the S-300, or can easily design one in quick fashion, they will not be overly concerned at the prospect of Russia supplying such a system to Iran. Would they? Ask this question. Are they concerned or are they pretending to be concerned in order to lull the Iranians into a sense of false security? If you accept the former is true and they are concerned then your claim is nonsense. If you think the Israelis are bluffing the Russians and therefore the Iranians too, then you read too many novels.

Russia repeats a grave mistake by supplying Iran with Automic bomb. Americans trained and supplied Afgans with weapons and look what happened. Dangerous toys in the hands of extreme states is not a joke!!! But who cares right? Fat cats are getting paid.

Lieberman could have saved on the air fare, and Israel are just kidding the Russians.

And what is Georgia gonna do? be trashed and loose another third of the country? You are as stupid as a box of rocks! but thank you for confirming to me Bush asked you to sell your weapons to Georgia last time! Trust the zionists and the us. Poor idiot Sakashvili!

Israel can change any battlefield that her weapons go to. Israel is in a position to cost Russia billions in Georgia. When it comes to the security of Israel..you should play hardball.

Well, if Iran did get the S-300 that shouldn't be a problem for Israel, right? since Israel never had any intentions of ever attacking Iran's nuclear facilities, right? See, nothing to worry about!

Whereas my tax dollar pays for israel's that is unacceptable.

(#22) And yes, Russia does get defeated, back to the stone ages...

How about for starters someone destroys Iran's oil refineries, then ratchet up the pressure by taking out their ability to generate electricity, food water. If our goal is to cause regime change, then give the people a "real" incentive to make changes... Stop trying to play paddy cakes with a bunch of playground bullies...

Silly idea Dan. The US and Israel would never have made such a puerile threat. Obviously the US and Israel and Chinese and so on will seek to defeat defense systems and seek to design new defense systems to overcome attackers own developments that may threaten to overcome old defense measures ad infinitum. Its a given and is a continual process since the beginning of warfare. Not a case of 'threatening to design a countermeasure unless they refuse to supply Iran' !! Frankly that is beyond idiotic. You obviously have no idea what has or has not been said. Neither[it seems] are too bright to even hazard a guess. What even a dim fellow like you should be able to figure out though, is that if the US or Israel have a worthwhile measure to defeat or disable the S-300, or can easily design one in quick fashion, they will not be overly concerned at the prospect of Russia supplying such a system to Iran. Would they now? Now ask this question. Are they concerned or not?

Presuming Obama shares your ideas is not wise. What if Russia is doing him a favour?

Until there is some semblance of detente in the Middle East Israel will never negotiate with anyone in good faith. This is why Israel is so afraid of an Iranian nuclear weapon, not that Iran would launch any kind of suicidal preemptive strike. Hopefully the delay in fulfilling this contract has a given the Russians time to modify the system to insure that it cannot be defeated the way the old systems in Syria were. As a matter of fact these same defensive systems should be sold to Syria and Lebanon if they can afford them. As long as Israel feels it has carte blanche to operate in any way it sees fit then there is no incentive to enter into a comprehensive peace agreement and we will just have more of the same in the Levant.

Otherwise Israel wouldn't be kicking up a fuss about the sale of this defensive weapon to Iran. Looks like if Israel attacks Iran Ron Arad is going to have soe company. Which will be nice for him after so long.

Russia offered a deal where Israel took over the contract and prurchased the S-300 missile system instead of Iran. Israel declined. But I think you'll agree this is a stunning success for Benyamin netanyahu's foreign policy. And Avigdor (the nightclub bouncer) Liebrman isn't even in Brussels yet. Happy days.

You absolutely right about agre4ssion against Jewish State. The only problem there's THE MUCH BEST PLANNER then IAF/IDF/Mossad etc. "As for them, they are but plotting scheme, And I am planning a scheme"... All our rabbis knows it, thet is whu all isarel cities are full of Ghaqard (jewish) trees

Thanks Greg for your insightful, balanced and diplomatic proposal for discussing the S300 system. Yor suggestion of instantly bombing the defensive system (YES - a defensive system!) as a means of not letting Iran have defence capabilties is typical of madmen who just want a permanent state of war in the region! Do you not think that Iran is allowed to have this defensive system?

Pity, because according to Barak Ravid your PREVIOUS bitch-slap of the Ruskies did the trick. He knew that to be a fact because, of course, Bibi told him so. Apparently it wasn't "a fact" at all, merely some Bibi-bombast. It seems that Ravid is the last person in Israel to think that you can believe what Bibi tells you. Memo to Ravid: maybe you should take your "scoops" with a grain of salt next time.....

yes "defensive"... that's the point.

any weapons or parts thereof. Any simple minded fool could read you the future and tell you those things will one day be used against Western Allied Regimes or Powers in the area in the Near Future. I'm even counting in the Russians and the Chinese as part of the Western Powers. Are they not also Allies against the radical elements that want to sow revolution and usurp the oil?

According to this in depth assessment as of 2009 there are 80 F-16I page 54 of this study breaks down Israel air power.(aircraft inventory) Study on a Possible Israeli Strike on Iran?s Nuclear Development Facilities csis.org/files/media/csis/pubs/090316_israelistrikeiran.pdf

reported in the last haaretz article on this subject... the one thing that israel seems to conveniently ignore about this whole issue, and has all along, is that russia made it clear a year or two ago, that a decision to sell them or not would be based on the interest of maintaining a military balance of power in the region. that statement made it almost certain, even back then, that the deal would be going through. because this sale does exactly that. it will balance things a little bit for iran...at least defensively. offensively it's still s.o.l. but the timing of this is no doubt in consideration of circumstances that are increasing the likelihood of israel acting on its longstanding threats. makes you wonder sometimes, just how much israel's own aggressive nature contributes to the support and arming of its adversaries.

Why is Israel worried about a defensive S-300 anti-aircraft weapon. Israel should be worried that Iran possesses a significant number of Russian made Sunburn and Onxy missiles for which America has begged Russia to supply to them also. The Americans are at least 10 years behind the Russians in missile technology. Technical specfiications of the Sunburn missiles: Cruise altitude: 20 feet above sea level (that is phenomonal, good luck to any radar trying to detect it) Raytheon and BAE Systems have yet to design a radar system capable of tracking this missile. Cruise speed: Mach 3 (Travelling faster than rifle bullets) Nuclear capable. Naturally the Chinese possess these weapons on their destroyers also. In the event of war the US 5th Fleet in the Persian Gulf will suffer a watery grave. The Persian Gulf is called that for a reason. Becuase the Persians enjoy complete control and command of this gulf of water. That's why it's called the Persian Gulf.

Iran has to become a super power in the region to conter balance the Israel. the time is over when Israel, like a spoiled child, could do whatever she wants with defensless Palestinians.

Israel ought to sell Georgia the equivalent system to everything the Ruskies sell to Iran.

At this point there is nothing that Israel can do because in reality they don't have the real military capacity to engage Iran. They're pretty good at making daily propaganda threat against Iran who's completely ignoring them. Israel never attacked an equal enemy in it's current history, they will only attack its enemy only if they are really incapable to win and weak. At this point they will have to sit down and watch in idle Iran becoming a military power and may Allah bless them.

The S-300 is THE premier anti-aircraft defense system. The US hasn't been able to defeat it and Israel will not either. The "technical" delay in delivery is an adjustment for software hacking and electrical interferrance. The Israeli were kind enough to demonstrate this ability on their attack on the suspected nuke facility in Syria. After the attack the Russians rushed to Syria to investigate. It is estimated Israel will lose 50% of the planes they send in any attack. The S-300 is a lightyear ahead of Israels Arrow defense system. So when Iran retalliates expect massive damage.

actually stated. My guess is Israel will know well in advance when this event is about to happen.

and just to make things clear.... this rocketcomplex will down every non-stealth flying object! absolutely everyone! it's max speed is mach 8 it has a 150 kg warhead and an range of currently 100 miles. the guidance system can not only attack planes and cruise missles but also ballistic missles. not even the iaf has the capability to neutralize this system.by the way...even stealth technology will not help bombing iran caus i've caught infos that there are passiv radar systems beeing deployed in iran....they prepare and no one responds.and after having all millitary caps needed the will turn their oil market to EURO and kill the USA without firing one single bullet! keep on acting fool and be surprised by the real iranian strenght!

It is not in the interest of Putin Russia for Iran to have nuclear weapon, but the vital interest of Russia is that Ahmadinejad?s Iran is in check in playing the game in order to bring the Western World and Israel to give in for Russia to be a player to resolve the conflict of wars in the Middle East and that does not mean achieving a lasting peace. Greed. It is a chess game and Putin?s Russia is in the lead. It is now Israel move of whether Israel will make a move to have a lasting peace with Syria that will distance it from Iran. The Middle East without the sovereign nation of Israel is Godless as much as without a nation of Palestine. Hate and destruction is a cycle and must be stopped.

Israel will stage one of her patented huff 'n puff's to the effect that she's about to attack unless... Reno bills itself as the 'biggest little city in the world.' When one change, this slogan could work for Israel as well. It's surreal when one considers that Israel is comparable in size to Togo and Honduras. How much attention do they demand? How many people could even correctly label Togo on a map?

Sam ,though it appears any response by me will be censored, so what? China is a nation willing to do what is necessary to do what it takes to succeed, and America is a nation only willing to do what is necessary to allow defense contractors to succeed. America has doomed itself and China does what it has to that it may prosper.

Israels enemy is not necessarily Russia enemy or any other country's for that matter.Iran has not threatened Israel, it doesnt beleive its legitimate but hasnt called for its destruction militarily. Israel has made attack threats and Iran has said that it will rightfully retaliate. An attack on Israel anyway would be the end of Iran, the Ayatollahs know that.Netanyahu has got the israeli public all frightened, its the fear factor. Bush used it and so did Howard of australia.Iran is no threat to the world. Its only looking after its interests. Its surrounded by the US on all fronts. Theyre doing what israel does, except without the occupation of another people.

Only a mindset like Israels would expect a country not to defend itself so it could be bombed when it doesnt follow what is dictated to it by Isr and US.

The info gleaned from an earlier IAF research sortie over to Greece's Russian high-tech air-defense system and other devastating Israeli electronic countermeasures that could be launched before and after the aerial onslaught to disrupt Iranian communications, will be put to good use if it comes down to that. The stakes are very high still as unknowns exist about Russia's efforts to troubleshoot the manner in which Israel overcame Syria's radar and air-defense system and also if there's anything to the earlier hijacking of the Russian ship that may have been carrying S-300 parts to Iran, and any possible Israeli involvement in that. Israel counts carefully the repercussions of any such moves and plans extensively for all scenarios, but they will soberly assess the threat level and execute their most viable option if Iran's tyrannical rulers don't back down from their tenacious, applied aggression against the existence of the Jewish State.

If like you say Israel & America has forewarned Russia that their system would be defeated,then why worry about it being supplied? Surely not to protect Russia's air defence systems as you have inferred. I get the impression Dan that you feel Israel is a super power militarily.I might add your not alone by some of the responses I have read here and this will apply to them as well. If by some miracle you think that Israel could possibly put a dent into Russia militarily you need to take two aspirins and put yourself straight to bed.

Oh well israel, bomb now or lose your military hegemony in the region.

The US and Israel told the Russians that if they sell this system to Iran, they will make sure to defeat the system (if not done so already). That will compromise Russian`s main air-defence system. They were forewarned.

So, how does it feel to be lied to, Bibi, and get a taste of your own medicine? You have been making promises and promises to the international community with no intention of fulfilling them and now Russia has done the same to you. You are not respected in the international community because of your two-faced dealings and no one respects Israel becuase they would elect someone like you!

It is not in the interest of Russia for Iran to have nuclear weapon, but the vital interest for Vladimir Putin?s Russia is that Ahmadinejad?s Iran is in check with him in playing the game in order to bring the Western World and Israel to give up of what the Western World took away from USSR. It is a chess game and Putin?s Russia is in the lead. It is now Israel move of whether Israel will become friendly and generous to its neighbors as much to Russia, or Israel choose to continue its path in using its war machine as the ultimatum. If Israel could not show love to the people of Palestine, who already share daily living them, why should the world be optimistic? The Middle East without the sovereign nation of Israel is Godless.

Did the Russians just give Netanyahu the finger?

Well obviously it can take out modern jets, that's why Israel is scared that their abilities to start problems will be hindered. And also, ofcourse Iranians have the capability to operate it. What do you think they live in caves or something? If they have nuclear physicists for their plants, they will have .... why am i even answering that question, even north koreans would be able to operate it.

Glad to see Putin showing some backbone.

To American Citizen, that's the thing you never know what is in one's best interest. That's why it is much better to behave according to once morale and self interest. Humor me with the following scenario. Suppose, Islamo-Fascists said that they will stop attacking USA if USA killed you and your family. I think it would be in the best interest of USA to do just that, but I wonder if it is ok with you.

There is no way that the US will let Iran go nuclear and threaten US military assets in the Gulf. Even the Annointed One knows that removing the 5th fleet and land bases will kill the US economy. War with Iran -- a probability of 1.

All the while Russia has been giving Israel the window to defend itself. The procrastination will cost Israel dearly when Russia finally makes the delivery. What is important is the unspoken words and not what are uttered. Time is definitely running out as the forces of the world move like lava flow and shifting sand to nowhere.

To Maureen Ann, there is not such thing as a purely defensive system with an exception of a bunker. Even then I am not sure. I suggest you pick up a book and learn how the predecessor of S300 was used by Egypt in 1973

The info gleaned from an earlier IAF research sortie over to Greece's Russian high-tech air-defense system and other devastating Israeli electronic countermeasures that could be launched before and after the aerial onslaught to disrupt Iranian communications, will be put to good use if it comes down to that. The stakes are very high still as unknowns exist about Russia's efforts to troubleshoot the manner in which Israel overcame Syria's radar and air-defense system and also if there's anything to the earlier hijacking of the Russian ship that may have been carrying S-300 parts to Iran, and any possible Israeli involvement in that. Israel counts carefully the repercussions of any such moves and plans extensively for all scenarios, but they will soberly assess the threat level and execute their most viable option if Iran's tyrannical rulers don't back down from their tenacious, applied aggression against the existence of the Jewish State.

Iran pays for the S=300 with hard money. Live with it.

America and China right now are to such a extent interdependent (as we all), that PEACE is the only rational outcome.

The point is arriving where Russia has to intervene in the current dangerous and worsening mess. The US and Israel, in their separate and independent ways, are really frightening the world. Who would imagine the day would come when one would look at Russia as a potential saviour.

as I said Russia could care less about israel

Gee Obama, playing nice with Russia didn't work... Playing nice with Iran isn't working... Gosh liberals, who would have thought playing nice with dictators doesn't work...

The US will not attack Iran nor be involved in such an attack by Israel, for the US is not willing to sacrifice NATO's ambition to go Asian and Kaukasian for Russia to drop the sale. Not now and also not after midterm elections in November. There will be MAD between Iran and Israel with US backing for Israel same as US backing for Europe was in the days of the cold war (if Iran attacks, total and massive retaliation inclusing US missiles but no first attack).

US and Israel want Russian and Chinese cooperation on Iran. But US sells weapons to Taiwan over Chinese objections and both the US and Israel sell weapons to former Soviet Republics (Georgia for example) over Russian objection. S-300 can be defeated by both stand off weapons (cruise missiles) and HARM missiles. Reap the whirlwind.

The Iranians are acquiring defensive systems to protect themselves from attack from foreign adversaries, let's say Israel and the US. Lo and behold, the ones shouting loudly against this safeguard are.... the Israel and the US. Has anyone heard of the level field idea?

What to say of the immanent threats of universal annihilation often attributed to Iran, the Bomb and the S-300? "Beware the Jabberwock, my son! The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!" - Lewis Carrol And don't forget that the Snark was a Boojum! You see?

"This is fair. Same as USA supplying Israel, Russia is supplying Iran" - Kevin Prost Kevin the USA and Russia don't give a hoot about 'fair.' Each is doing what for diverse reasons it has to do. You think Russia is doing Iran a favor by taking it's money and never delivering the S-300s? Russia has been jerking Iran around on the S-300 sale and the Bushrer reactor for many years. There is always some 'technicality' that prevents Russia from delivering the goods. The date is always being put off. Russia has been using both as leverage over Iran because Russia wants Iran back under the Additional Protocols to the NPT. The world is not fair Kevin. If the world was 'fair' to everyone the Ayatollahs would not rule Iran, or Putin Russia.

"well, now Israel will have to destroy the missile batteries as soon as they arrive in Iran." - gregg bowman The Iranians have not forgotten their years long 'yom kippur war' in the 1980s. They tend to not leave mobile systems as sitting ducks. They tend to move them regularly and make the problem of planning a preemptive strike difficult. The Iranians were made fanatics about self-sufficiency during the Gulf War where it was them against the world's chosen champion - Saddam Hussein and Iraq. They are now manufacturing IHAWK systems. Old, true, but want to guess what OTHER middle eastern nations have IHAWKs? Iran was supposed to be a pushover in the past, and wasn't. I wouldn't bet on it being a pushover today. I think you are wrong about the Russians gregg. They emphatically do not want Iran a nuclear weapons power. Russia could have delivered S-300PMU1 systems the day after the contract was signed. The 'deal' has been one endless frustration for Iran for years.

Israel has put a veto on the US supplies to the Lebanese Army beyond Hummer vehicles. Israel is able to blackmail the US congress. That is understood. But how can Israel influence the Russians beyond putting a stop on rearming the now defunct Georgian Army?

"the Russian S-300 missile air defense missile (seen on Wikipedia) is defensive, not offensive. Right?" - Maureen Ann Yes, it is defensive. And I applaud your seeking out information. The Wikipedia article on the S-300 family is actually pretty good. The specific system involved in the long delayed Iranian sale is the S-300PMU1. Your observation that it is 'defensive' is correct, but must be seen in a broader light. The classic weapon system, the Sword and Shield, succeeded for so long because of the interaction. The Sword is the offensive system and the Shield is the defense which protects the offensive system. Any increase in a nations defensive ability tends to create an improvement in it's offensive capability. Equally, a nation which lacks offensive capabilities has no ability to resist maneuver intended to circumnavigate any defense. Yes Maureen, the S-300 is defensive. What it defends may not be. The S-300 could defend an offensive capability as easily as an orphanage.

As long as there is no evidence of nuclear bomb production in Iran, any country will have the right to trade with weapons With Iran. However once the Iranian rejime pops up with a nuclear bomb , will all the countries who are selling weapons to Iran be held responsible? The world must force inspection on the Iranian nuclear facilities and stop the production of any nuclear threat to anyone. Iran cannot be allowed to have any atomic bomb. At the best they might blow themselves up and contaminate the world. They must be stopped , the world cannot take a chance on people who are determined to destroy and kill the innocent.

The United States just announced the other day that they are selling weapons to TAWAIN despite Chinse oppositon. Isreal sell weapons Georgia despite Russian opposition so it is fair Russia sell their weapon to Iran despite Isreali opposition. FAIR IS FAIR.

"Is the S300 effective against modern military jets?" - W Pretty effective, thought the S-300PMU offered to Iran is not as capable as the ones Russia keeps for itself. The system is effective at very long range against high-altitude aircraft, and very effective at medium ranges against medium altitude aircraft. It is not so effective if the attacker is has trained against it or simulators and has developed effective countermeasures. "If so, do the Iranians have the technical capabilities to operate it properly?" - W I have not been able to reliably determine whether or how much the Iranians have been trained on the system. A good deal of competence in any highly complex weapons system requires more than training. It requires experience. Is the very long delayed S-300PMU1 sale to Iran a dire threat to the IDF? The S-300 will be a complication, but not a dire threat, if it is ever delivered.

"Sweet. How many f-16s has Israel got anyone?" - remi I suspect that I would not be allowed to give you an approximate number, or comment upon the availability rate of any IDF combat aircraft. I will recommend you search on line for an IDF Order of Battle and generate the numbers from that. I find it ever amusing when the press, barely aware of the world beyond what is handed them by some partisan or provocateur gets all emotional over something which appears far worse than it really is. Consider this. The USA bought a S-300PMU, the system being sold to Iran, many years ago, has studied it carefully, has used it and simulators in Red Flag and other exercises and developed counter-measures. Israeli Air Force pilots have participated in Red Flag and other exercises where they are up against the S-300 and other threats. I realize those who are trying to panic Israelis will be offended at this information. But the truth is that the S-300PMU is an old system well known to the IDF. .

right after Putin pat him on the back do not worry friend we shall have them their

From my experience , S300s have the ability to shoot modern jets down quite frequently. The danger is that if iran shoots israeli jets down they will quite a significant number of israeli captives. Imagine that the IDF (with all my respect to the IDF) has failed to retrieve Shalit from Gaza during operation cast lead that lasted for 3 weeks, how bad the situation will be with iran if it got like a dozen israeli captives. I think that we should be very careful. S300s can be operated by a group of three people and don't need a construction base, but rather a wheeled vehicle, and hence are very simple to use and can be mobilised quite easily. Israel should not allow Iran to have these anti-aircraft missiles

it does not matter the s300 will not be put up. If it is give it less then a year before its scrap metal.

Russia is acting in its own self interest, and protecting its energy investments in Iran. Besides, Russia knows which country already has nukes in the Middle East, so giving Iran a battery of S-300 does nothing except defends Iran from a pre-emptive strike from you know who....

"Delays (with deliveries) are linked to technical problems with adjusting these systems," - Sergei Ryabkov The S-300PMU has been in production for decades and has been sold to many nations, including a system to the USA. What is being adjusted is the size of the pile of Bravo Sierra in the Kremlin.

Is the S300 effective against modern military jets? If so, do the Iranians have the technical capabilities to operate it properly?

The world powers care less about a possible nuclear holocaust caused by Iran and more concerned about profits. Russia is selling the s-300 defense system to Iran, that might turn around in the future and kick them in the ass. If Chechens get hold of a bomb from Iran and blow it up in Russia, then Russia will retaliate by trying to bomb Iran and their jets get blown out of the skies with their own weapons. China is more worried about disturbing their oil supply than keeping the world safe from Iran. The USA and the EU are feckless in their demands for sanctions that really bite against Iran. How about an air ,land and sea embargo against Iran as starters.

And was behind destruction of the South Lebanon and Gaza by financing terrorists dedicated to the eradication of Israel there,right?And is about to acquire nukes now. No wonder they are scared of reprisals for their crimes.

The Middle East will be a safer place when these missiles are deployed. All Israel's neighbours should have them.

# 1 One day the downtrodden Aborigines will rise up against the White Oppressors & demand their stolen,robbed,& plundered land back. When that time comes Israel should give her a helping hand. A good place to start could be Bathurst. If it succeeds there,then it could spread in all directions. Why should Australia have such a huge country,while the Aborigines are kept in secluded areas ? It's their Land after all.

If Israel has no plans to attack Iran, why is Israel worried about Iran's having missiles which can only hurt Israel if it attacks?

politics...don't hate Russia for that, every country is guilty of saying one thing and doing the opposite, Israel is the queen of deceit, sometimes we all need a taste of our own medicine...

Boy the antisemites on this website are going to love this BS Ahhh two faced russia out to make a buck

Same as USA supplying Israel, Russia is supplying Iran

well, now Israel will have to destroy the missile batteries as soon as they arrive in Iran. This really states where Russia's mind set is in regards to Iran and the middle east. I think it is time to write Russia off in regards to having any rational, intelligent, meaningful communication with them....they are 100% Iran supporters regardless of what they say concerning putting any pressure on Iran. Time to wake up this time.....regards...Gregg Bowman

The clock is ticking away now. The IAF will face a impossible task and a huge dillema as Israel cannot take-out these super advanced mobile missile systems without paying a heavy toll. Whenever the IAF may decide to bomb Iran's nuclear facilities, the IAF pilots will be sure that dozens of them will not return alive. Is Israel ready for some 50 new 'Ron Arad' cases? The Israeli pilots know, since the Shalit case, that the government doesn't care about them whenever the Iranians may capture them alive. That's no boost for the motivations among IAF pilots, as they know that Bibi will let them down.

If Bibi not nervous now,i guess he never will be.

A sword is much more effective weapon when combined with a shield. The Iranians are seeking a shield for thier nuclear sword.

The S-300 is regarded as one of the most potent anti-aircraft missile systems currently fielded. Its radars have the ability to simultaneously track up to 100 targets while engaging up to 12 at a time. The S-300 deployment time is five minutes.

stabbers, on day russia will get whats comming to them. They have always played both sides of the sword. Live by the sword and you will probably die by the sword. Bibi for heavens sake strike and strike HARD shock and aw that what iran needs!!!

To attack, and to sell arms to Russia's neighbors, how nice of them to go israels way

If the Russian follow their words with deeds it may push the decision makers in the West into leaving their hesitation to strike Iran sooner than later. Unless this is an other attempt by the Russian to get some more political or economic concessions from the West in exchange for not shipping the S-300 air defense missile systems.

I'm kind of wondering what Russia would do if Israel sold a similuar system to Kazakstan rebels - or Georgia? And if Georgia was building a bomb??? I'm wondering...

These guys are playing everyone for fools the PM of Israel, Iran, and the US. What fools they have become - it's like a porn star that can't finish.

that he is. Just a few days ago he claimed the Russians were not going to deliver the S-300's to Iran. What a joke.

glad to see Russia dont care what natanyahu want!

Atomic weapons are another story. The countries who consider themselves the 'West' (whatever that self-advertisement means) have to get used to new realities that developed over the last decades and were greatly accelerated by the policies of Bush and successive Israeli Governments: 1. They cannot tell others as easily as before what to do while they don't follow their own rules. The US optimized political language of car salesmanship simply does not work any more in many parts of the world. Obama and Clinton look by now so wooden when they lecture the world, after the years of the Bush regime. 2. They lost hegemony. Other players don't play - they follow their own interests and became powerful enough to do so. Sadly, because of the emergence and US fostered growth of hateful and violent Muslim fundamentalist movements unleashed first on the Muslim and 'communist' world and then, predictably, turning against the 'West', some of the new and independent powers are led by monstrous regi

the Russian S-300 missile air defense missile (seen on Wikipedia) is defensive, not offensive. Right?

"It is absolutely incorrect to put the emphasis on the issue of S-300 supplies... and to turn it into a major problem, to say nothing of linking it to the discussion on restoring trust in the purely peaceful character of Iran's nuclear program," Ryabkov said. Does this guy work for the IAEA?

One minute you read the delivery is on hold and that Russia are cross with Iran, the next the delivery is going ahead and Iran's nuclear program is peaceful. Both sides cancel each other out, so we effectively know nothing.

foreign policy success for Israel.

Obama to Medvedev: please don't give Iran these missiles because we might want to attack it.

cry me a river.