Russia-Iran arms deal delayed due to 'technical problems'

No, this is not regarding Gog Magog War, this is more to Armageddon. The Gog Magog war is still far from now, this Rusia will not directly envolve in the coming war (The Armageddon), they will be in background for now.

Defensive arms make it harder to attack and if you believe attack is the best defense it threatens your security.The mistake here is in the perception of attack as defense when in fact it is recklessness and adventurous and potentially disastrous for the long term security of the attacker who mistakenly thought it to be defense.

world." Your country "american citizen" does not want that, the Sunnnis mostly US allies dont want a nuclear armed Iran imposing Persian hegemony and Shiite ideology. Remember why the Moslkem games were cancelled? The Sunnis do not want to call it the Persian Gulf. The USA does not want to have nuclear armed Iran threatenning its oil supplies.

You're wrong. 1000 years away on that one.

And why did my Nokia suddenly stopped working on a rainy day?

If you are a hitorian then you should know that the beginning of the united kingdom of Israel under Saul was established in 1020BCE. The kingdom split in two after civil war in 924BCE. both kingdoms existed till 597BCE. when Israel was destroyed by Babylon. Judah existed and in 536BCE.Cyrus lets the Israel go back home which is now Judah.Judah existed in one form or another till the Roman conquest and Jewish Rebellion in the year 137 AD. which means the Jewish kingdom existed for about 1200 years, thats a lot longer then most of the nations to-day

michele; you sound as if you dont like the fact that israel exists. I have news for you, israel existed in history and in the present. It was not created BECAUSE of WW2, although it was a catalyst and rightly so. Where should the jews have gone? alaska? they'd find walter and throw up! what about uganada? texas? hmmm...all interesting, but none of them have any historical ties to the jewish people..so they went back home to their homeland where lo and behold, some jews still lived and always lived... as for american idiot, the policy of preemption is a very valid one...even obama is practicing it as we speak...and btw, he's killing innnocents, which as you know, is a war crime. and as far as I know, there has not been one taliban nor regular pakistani citizen blowing up kids on buses anywhere in the US to warrant obama killing them like a coward with drones. israel has EVERY RIGHT to preempt, and that includes psycho iran, you know american, the ones who took your embassy??lol

There are some excellent books out about the historical conflicts between the Russian and Iranian empires and how a renewal of these conflicts will be the major factor in the first half of the 21st century. Azerbaijan (the former Soviet republic) will be the big prize after Russia restores its hegemony in Georgia in a few years. However, Tajikistan and Turkmenistan will also be "footballs" in the big game between these empires. Once again, time is on Israel's side as Iran discovers that a few zionists on the shores of the Mediterranean are the least of its concerns.

Judah was quite larger than you state. Check out the following book "The Jewish War" by Josephus written in 74 AD. by a participant in that war. Book includes maps from that time. According to those maps Judah goes from the Lebanese and Syrian border to just south of the Dead Sea and from Mediteranean Sea to what is to-day Iraq and Syrian borders.The province of Judah was much smaller however, the provinces of Idumae,Nabataea, Samsritis, Gilead, Ulatha, Paneas, Gaulanitis, and Moab were all under Judean control and the people all warshiped as Jews and were envolved in the war against Rome and expelled together with the Jews.Those who were allowed to remain in their homeland were forced after the Moslem conquest to convert to Islam or face decapitation. Those who converted were assimilated and all trace of them dissapeared. Those who managed to escape joined Jewish communities in the Diaspora from the previous expulsian by the Romans 600 years previously

The Russians are in great difficulties to manufacture reliable high technology weapons.For instance more than half of the tests of the new SLBM Bulava tests have failed. Iranians may have to wait years before they get the system. Meanwhile Israel is already two steps ahead.

Christ "chosen people" are the Christians no? "no man shall enter into the kingdom BUT through me" - why would he support the same people who rejected him? Did he not come to create a new covenant? Just saying...

After the world recession bagan Rusia has seen its oild revenue shrink and it's mutual agrreed ties to support revolutionary oppressive islamic state like Iran has grown. The UN security council has dragged its feet imposing meaningful sanctions on Iran for years and it appear China is the only holdout, but Russia though it seem to support tougher sanctions will like to give Iran the capability to defend the very thing it supposedly object to. Ezekiel Chapter 38 specifically states the old Gog of Magog anciently known as modern Russia will be aligned with Israel ancient enemies to destroy her, but that the 'Son of Man' "Christ" will give his chosen people a decisive victory, it appears this prophesy is closer to fulfilment than ever before.

Please check out this map: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Levant_01.PNG Also, most of the historic tribes are either still there (Samaritans still exist in Israel) or converted to Christianity or Islam - they didn't just dissappear, they changed with the times but still existed in the land. Historic Palestine has never been a homogenous area - even Jews by their own account come from Africa - they too are immigrants. But if you look at the map above, the Kingdom of Judah was quite small (and the map illustrates it before Roman conquest) when everything was Roman territory. Israel has been only one of many kingdoms in the region and quite brief historically.

In most countries when borders are redrawn there are population transfers. India-Pakistan is best example where population was transfered and in many cases not by choice. German population of Saxony was removed after second world war when Saxony became part of Poland. many Germans were removed from territories which became part of Soviet Union. In many contries of the new world such as US, Australia,in South America native populations were not just forcibly removed but genocide was committed and wholesale slaughter of the natives was even encouraged by the governments. Then again most of the populations of Europe are not natives of where they live, they moved in from the east, killing the natives or pushing them out. The Middle East is the best example of nativ people being forced out or killed by the Arab conquest, where almost all people mentioned in the Bible nolonger exist. The Jews seem to be the only original inhabitants in the world of the land that was theirs 2000 years

I get your point - but I have to pause by the idea that Iran has NEVER invaded a country in recent history, even when the arabs invaded Israel proper, Iran did not participate - in fact, Iran has itself BEEN invaded by the US backed Saddam Hussein. The fact of the matter is that Iran would be crazy not to get nukes - its has a nuclear armed China and Pakistan to its east and a nuclear armed Israel to its west, and a nuclear armed Russia to its north, along with having a nuclear armed US at both ends of its borders with a history of using its CIA to undermine its government (support of the shah) and invading it indirectly through Saddam.

This matter is beyond Israel. Only the Americans can offer the Russians something for which they will gladly drop the sale. No more expansion of NATO and/or deployment of weapons/radar at Russia's east and southern borders. The Russians know that the Americans know that Irans's quest for nukes is essentially meant to weaken US control over the flow of oil from Arabia. For this Israel is a most usefull lever in Iranian eyes. The ball is in Obama's court.

It is unnatural for a minority to rule over a majority but I hate to break it to you that is increasingly the case in Israel - in twenty years there will be far more Palestnians (Israeli-Palestinian)than Israeli Jews from Jordan to the sea. Then it will become increasingly difficult for Israelt continue to justify its occupation and its lack of constitution (there is no constitution or "bill of rights" in Israel) - secondly, you are wrong about Judah, that was just a small part of Historic Palestine that the Romans allowed Hedron to have as his little kingdom - this is a fact, and ultimately it was all Roman, since everyone, even within Hedrons territory had to pay taxes to Rome. Another note - Historic Israel only existed for a couple of hundred years, it has been known as Palestine (name given by the Romans) longer than Israel. I am not for or against anything in this region (could care less) just stating facts.

There are could be several reasons for your not understanding: ignorance, bias, personal agenda. There are no such things as defensive weapons with an exceptions of a bunker. Even then I am not sure. The predecessor of S300 was used by Egypt to create a defensive umbrella for its offensive war in 1973. Egypt has set up this umbrella when it shipped the system across the Suez after it attacked Israel in 1973.

Show me one country where minority rules. Should we mention all the rights of the Kurds in Iran, Iraq, Turkey. What about Darfur region in Sudan, the Coptics in Egypy. Palestinians in the Arab world. Speaking of apartheit look to the Arab (Moslem) world, does a Jew or Christian have rights to even enter Mecca. Even in France, Belgium, Switzerland, etc. laws are passed to contain the Moslem minority. Only North America has equal laws for everybody on paper. Untill as recently as 50 years ago Blackc had no rights in US. The only reason there is equality for everyone is because the WASP majority is so powerfull they don't fear giving minorities rights. Also the Jews did controll the entire area of Palestine, Israel and Jordan. The Jews also were one of the largest populations in the world compromising more than 2% of world population. I had to do some reaserch on this subject, so look it up.

have not had their indigenous populations kicked out to make room for occupying immigrants. Every Single Palestinian Refugee still owns Land, Home, fruit trees, flowers, furniture, and key to his or her font door. All these have been utterly stolen by Jewish Immigrants and their leaders.

Russia knows that if a bombing campaign begins that its weapons system will be put up for show (like during the lebanon war and hezzies use of anti-tank missiles from Russia) - so Russia is perfecting them so that they can be delivered and upgraded - it will be a great advertising tool for Russian made weapons should they work -else they will promote the idea that Russian made weapons are horrible and ineffective.

Tired of all this "Israel occupying Palestine" Crap. Who can define the "Palestinian government", or even a Palestinian national identity, prior to 1947. No one, that's who. A boat-load of Jews did not just show up after WW2 and "Steal" Palestine, as many would have everyone believe. Jews have historically always been there as well. Israelis, Jewish or not, have every right to a homeland as much as the Palestinians now do. Except Palestinians cannot seem to co-exist; they want it all - even though the original UN charter would have established a separate,autonomous Palestinian state. If the entire Arab world would recognize Israel's right to exist, there would be peace and land for all. But until the arab youth are not brought up to hate from the time they are in diapers, this will never happen.

Those so-called technical problems have everything to do with the measures Israel used to defeat Syrian air defenses when Israel bombed the Syrian facility in the west of Syria. When the Russians are confident they can nullify those measures the S-300's will be upgraded and delivered. There is no point in having a system Israel can defeat, so Iran is waiting for the upgrade.

Judah did not include Jordan, Palestine and Israel - it was actually quite small - which was Herod's territory - I agree with you with the notion that what's done is done in post WW2 Europe and Historic Palestine but in the end Israel is beggining to resemble Aparthy south africa than a western country where an increasing minority is ruling over a growing majority - then when it is all lost due to avarice for more land - we all still say - what's done is done -

Seriously, I don't understand how a radar and defensive weapons system that cannot be used to attack be a threat? Is it because we believe that Iran will use that technology to attack a country? Not sure....

Using your reasoning, then if the Romans didn't destroy Judah 2000 years ago and expell the Jews from Judah (Palestine, Jordan, ISRAEL) to-day, then there would not be any Palestinians or any talk of a palestinian nation To-day, there might even have not been Mohamed and Islam . History happened as it happened and to-day Israel does exist and is recognized by most of the nations of the world. Also internztional law applies to small nations only. It doesn't apply to US and Britain, or Pakistan in Afganistan or Iraq, it doesn't apply to Russia in Chechnia, nor does it apply to Iranians, Arabs and yes Hamas and Hizbollah for killing civilians and also their own citizens who oppose them

While Michele is absolutely right in his argument, have you ever thought why Hamas sends rocket to israel? Did Palestine (Hamas) went to East Europe where from all israelis came OR israel came to Palestine? israel was imposed on Palestine for your good sleep what you were deprived of in europe, however, your good sleep will be an illusion for many long years to come.

Muslim states like Lebanon, Jordan etc. were declared when???

I wonder how much money (or other "gifts") has Mr Netanyahu promised the Russians to find "technical problems" in their missiles...

...if israel wasent declared in 1947 also 60 years of misery would not have taken place....using your way of thinking!

If Hamas had not shot thousands of missiles into Israel, operation "cast lead" would not have happenend. Don't you think?

Israel, a country under investigation for war crimes, gets the latest offensive weapons: bombs, planes, tanks, subs-all nuclear capable from the West. But in Israel's warped pre-emptive policy, Iran must remain defenseless without counter measures, so Israel can bomb Iran into the stone ages like Gaza. Cowards, criminals and bullies, Israel's government is full of them.