Russia FM: Threats of sanctions against Iran won't work
WATCH: Lavrov says nuclear talks with Iran should continue, speaking after meeting Clinton.
By The Associated Press Tags: Russia Hillary Clinton Israel news Iran nuclearRussia pushed back on Tuesday at U.S. efforts to threaten tough new sanctions if Iran fails to prove that its nuclear program is peaceful, a setback to the Obama administration's desire to present a united front with Moscow.
After meeting with U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said Moscow believed that such threats would not persuade Iran to comply and that negotiations should continue to be pursued.
"At the current stage, all forces should be thrown at supporting the negotiating process," he told reporters at a joint news conference with Clinton. "Threats, sanctions and threats of pressure in the current situation, we are convinced, would be counterproductive."
Clinton, on her first visit to Moscow as America's top diplomat, had been looking to gauge Russia's willingness to join the United States in applying additional pressure on Iran to come clean about its nuclear intentions. The U.S., Israel and other nations fear Iran is working toward making nuclear weapons, but Iran insists its nuclear program is to generate energy.
Russia, along with China, has traditionally balked at sanctions but there had been indications that opposition might be softening after Tehran last month disclosed a previously secret uranium enrichment site near the holy city of Qom.
Russian President Dmitry Medvedev said then that while sanctions are rarely productive in some cases they are inevitable. Lavrov stressed on Tuesday that Medvedev meant only that sanctions would be considered when all political and diplomatic efforts are exhausted.
Clinton, who met later with Medvedev, said she had not asked for Moscow's specific support for actually imposing sanctions. But U.S. officials said they were disappointed that Lavrov had come out against even the threat of new penalties.
One senior official traveling with Clinton said the U.S. continued to believe it is critical to get tangible signs of support from Moscow for at least considering new sanctions because the more united they are, the more likely pressure on Iran is to work. The official spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss internal administration thinking.
Clinton agreed with Lavrov that the U.S. believed it was important to pursue diplomacy in the carrot-and-stick approach the international community is taking with Iran. But, she also said it was critical to let Iran know what will happen should it continue to rebuff the United Nations demands.
"At the same time that we are very vigorously pursuing this [diplomatic] track, we are aware that we might not be as successful as we need to be," she said.
"So we have always looked at the potential of sanctions in the event we are not successful and cannot assure ourselves and others that Iran has decided not to pursue nuclear weapons," Clinton said.
She said the United States did not believe it was time to impose new sanctions, noting that Iran has pledged some steps, include opening up a recently disclosed uranium enrichment plant to UN inspectors and sending existing stocks of low enriched uranium to Russia for reprocessing.
Iran insists it has the right to a full domestic nuclear enrichment program and maintains it is only for peaceful purposes, such as energy production.
Iran is already under three sets of UN sanctions for failing to address fears it is making nuclear weapons.
U.S. President Barack Obama - who visited Russia in July - has vowed to reset U.S.-Russia relations and Clinton brought a wide range of issues to Moscow for discussion.
Clinton apologized for missing Obama's visit because of a broken elbow, but joked that that, "Now both my elbow and our relationships are reset and we're moving forward, which I greatly welcome."
Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin was in Beijing on a trade mission and was not in Moscow for the talks with Clinton. China and Russia signed a deal Tuesday that could see a steady flow of Russian natural gas to energy-hungry China - one of numerous trade and military agreements signed during Putin's state visit.
Beyond Iran, Lavrov said U.S. and Russia negotiators have made considerable progress toward reaching agreement on a new strategic arms treaty. The 1991 Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty, or START, expires in December and negotiators have been racing to reach agreement on a successor.
The two diplomats also discussed possible cooperation on missile defensefollowing Obama's decision not to proceed with Bush-administration plans to base such a system in eastern Europe. Russia has welcomed Obama's new approach, but has said it was eager for more detailed information.
Clinton said the U.S. would be as transparent as possible.
We want to ensure that every question that the Russian military or Russian government asks is answered, she said, calling missile defense another area for deep cooperation between our countries.
Also on the agenda were Afghanistan, nuclear-armed North Korea, NATO expansion, the situation in Georgia after its conflict with Russia last year, human rights and arms control.
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Fanatical Islamist-Jihadists are the same everywhere. They fly planes into buildings to commit genocides. They blow themselves up with bombs to commit genocides. They do this all in the name of their god. As Islamist-Jihadist scholar and former Professor of Quranic Interpretations at Al Azhar University, Cairo, Egypt, Omar Abdel Rahman, rightly points out, "There is no surah called 'Peace.' Jihad and killing are the head of Islam. If you take them out, you cut off the head of Islam." (p.24, "Islam and Terrorism" [2002] by Mark A. Gabriel, PhD)
seriously, i thought the others were bad, you really take the cake with the "Iran nuke will be aimed at Russia too", you think iran has a death wish?, no, i don't hink so, but i know you do, go and join your buddies when they attack iran, i dare you.
Military option is out. And now the economic option is out. 6 months ago Netanyahu was ready with his guns. Now what? Israeli right is now in the same place as republicans - even though formally they are in power. So much for falling in love with the friendliest US president, GWB. He is probably golfing in Texas - what, me worry?
The Pentagon has moved up the delivery date of the 15 ton GRU-57A/B or MOP (Massive Ordinance Penetrator) which can burrow 60.09 meters underground before exploding. US Air Force crews are working around the clock to adapt the bay of a B2a Stealth bomber to accommodate the big bunker buster. The Pentagon original order for four of these huge bombs has been increased to ten. The increase was triggered by the discovery that Iran was hiding a second uranium enrichment plant under a mountain near Qom. I am not an Obama supporter, but am not sure that he is weak. He was an active member of the communist party just thirteen years ago, and communists can sure be brutal. http://tinyurl.com/obamafarleft Maybe he simply intends to give negotiations a maximum chance, and will surprise us all by bombing Iran's installations if all else fails. Martin
Russia is smart to know that sanctions won't work with Islamist-Jihadist fanatics. However, talks won't bear fruit too. What would Russia gain in having the fanatics possess nukes? Nothing! On the contrary, if not hampered, Iran nuke will be aimed at Russia too. Iran has not hidden its agenda of annihilating Israel. In fact, they are so proud to announce it to the world repeatedly. Ergo, Israel should defend itself against the fanatics' nuke ambition without any qualms at all.
Iran has been threatened with a lot worse than sanctions. Clinton should shut her noise hole and stop embarrassing herself. She should observe just how Ahmadinejad has embarrassed himself with his mindless flapping of his noise hole.
They want parity with the United States. They want the same things the United States have in the Region. The United States have nearly a land based Aircraft Carrier and Munitions Depot between both Israel and Saudi Arabia. So the Russians are engaged with creating the same sort of enterprise with both Syria and Iran. The Chinese are just getting started. As long as the World is dependent on oil, there will be problems wherever there are large supplies of it and historic grudges.
Russia's prime interest is in its own welfare, not the welfare of Iran. Iran's nuclear program is Israel's top priority, and by extension, the top priority of the U.S. Therefore, Russia will play the Iran card over and over again to its own advantage to extract concessions from the U.S.
Why would Russia want to end a very lucrative business especially during tough economic times?
Iran is determined to acquire and develop nuclear warheads. The UN sanctions regime did not work; Iran has many resources at its disposal to hire nuclear scientists and related equipment. After all it has the whole state apparatus at its disposal to conduct this kind of illegal activity. Without decisive use of force, we may only expect a nuclear war, a massive amount of victims and, yes reaction by democracies when it is already too late for many of our citizens. This might be the ultimate lesson learnt from the Versailles fiasco. More about nuclear Iran : http://xrl.us/be48qr
Russian policies have paid off: 1. US has withdrawn its missile systems from eastern Europe 2. Russia is now a primary player in ME (and on the winning side) 3. Europe has all but accepted Russia's supremacy in gas supply Things are going well. Why change now? In fact, with every pathetic us attempt to win support for Iran sanctions, the cost of cooperation will go up exponentially. Even pretending to "listen" to Israel is costing US ten fold at this point. It is time US cut its losses, froze the settlements and struck a generous deal with Iran while the price is still low.
The Russians have been working with Iran on their nuclear program for years and have a got a better 'handle' on things than the US. A wise man one said 'never back down in front of a bully'. Well Iran sees the US as a bully (amongst other things) and they will not back down in front of them. Therefore Russia can, and has been, dealing more effectively with Iran than the US has or ever could. A Slow step forward with Russias help is better than stalemate (or several steps backward if the US /UN try sanctions). The US cannot expect to repair 30 years of damaged Iranian relationship with a couple of clever speeches followed by the threat of violence. Following Russias lead may not be such a bad thing (especially if the alternatives are considered).
Now that you have told us what does not work, could you please tell us what does work? Thank you.