Rights group says silenced by Hezbollah, Lebanon over report
Human Rights Watch cancels Beirut press conference on report accusing Hezbollah of war crimes.
By Meron Rapaport Tags: Hezbollah LebanonThe international human rights organization Human Rights Watch said on Wednesday that Lebanese guerilla group Hezbollah and the Lebanese government are attempting to silence it and prevent the release of a report accusing Hezbollah of war crimes during the Second Lebanon War.
The report was slated for release on Wednesday at a press conference in Beirut, but the hotel in which it was set to take place announced it would not allow the conference to be held on its property.
The hotel refused to hold the conference after the Lebanese government and Hezbollah harshly criticized the organization, and Hezbollah threatened to hold a demonstration in front of the hotel.
Unofficial sources in the human rights group said that its employees in Lebanon feel "threatened," and therefore decided to cancel the press conference.
The war broke out on July 12, after two Israel Defense Forces soldiers were abducted and eight others killed during a cross-border raid by Hezbollah and the subsequent rescue attempt by the IDF.
The 34-day war that followed saw much of northern Israel battered by Hezbollah rockets, while southern Lebanon and part of Beirut were pounded by Israel Air Force strikes.
According to the Human Rights Watch report, Hezbollah had a pattern during the war of "firing indiscriminately and in some cases deliberately at civilians and civilian structures, in violation of international humanitarian law."
The report also found that the Iranian-backed group "repeatedly bombarded cities, towns, and villages without any apparent effort to distinguish between civilians and military objectives."
According to the rights group, those actions by Hezbollah, "a party to an armed conflict governed by international humanitarian law," had "violated fundamental prohibitions against deliberate and indiscriminate attacks against civilians."
The report also states that "Hezbollah rockets repeatedly hit populated areas in Israel," and that in some cases the group "could find no evidence there had been a legitimate military target in the vicinity at the time of the attack, suggesting it was a deliberate attack on civilians."
While in some instances there had been evidence that there was a military target in areas hit by rockets, the report says that, "even assuming Hezbollah had been intending to hit the military target instead of civilians, the unguided rockets it used was incapable of distinguishing between the two."
The report also blasts the group for claiming to back "the principle of sparing civilians on both sides," while threatening to target Israeli population centers and claiming responsibility for previous attacks on communities inside Israel.
"Hezbollah's attacks in violation of the laws of war, when combined with such statements indicating criminal intent," says the report, "is strong evidence that some Hezbollah members and commanders were responsible for war crimes."
The group has published numerous reports on what it calls Israel's human rights violations, including its attacks on Lebanese civilians and use of cluster bombs during the war. According to the organization's Web site, it also intends to release a report condemning Hezbollah's reported use of civilians as human shields.
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An Israeli rescue worker helping a man wounded in a rocket attack by Hezbollah on the northern city of Haifa, in July 2007. (AP) |
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Dutch Dirk how come you are so silent,have you nothing to say to me?????
What you seem to omit is that both sides in the 2 Leb.WAR, committed similar crimes. Hizb. & Idf used the same tactics. Agree with you about the Hizb's tactics, but why did you forget that IDF too, used artillery batteries near Arab Villages in Northern Israel.Their calculations were that Hizb, will not dare attacked the artilleries in that region, but they did. Thus they both are GUILTY.
Justice for all baddies.
the dropping of 3/4,000.000 cluster bomlets on the south of Lebanon, just 3 days before the implimentation of the cease fire? = = = = = COLATERAL DAMAGE, or they (The dead civilians)should NOT have been there when the IAF was doing ints duties.
Nobody should be in any way surprised by this. Theocratic organisations like Hussy observe no ethical standards standards what ever. All is trumped entirely by their concpetion -- typically a most conveniently self-justifying conception -- of the will of their perverted conception of God. The is not about parity or comparability in any sense. Things are actually quite simple: Hussy is evil, purest evil. Israel is openness, truth, decency, period. If everybody in the region would simply recognise Israel's right to exist in peace tomorrow, there would be NO cross-border warfare in the middle east -- apart, perhaps, from continued muslim on muslim murder.
u.s.co ordination at least six months before the capture of the idf soldiers.israel was waiting for a causus belli.In any case, the horrors that happened go well beyond self defence.
Nina,quite right,but there is a history to it.HumanR.Watch did come out with a condemnation of israel last year,but they were soon muzzled by the Jewish Lobby,ADL etc.(no doubt some money would have passed under the table).Many of the Peace orgs.are dominated both by crypto zionists.Moveon.org is pro Democrat,who are in the pockests of the Jewish Lobby.Whe else did Cindy Sheehan resign from the peace movement? Mark L..your equating of the two sides is a little off track.Surely you are not saying that the death &destruction is equal on both sides? JES,my points above.
It is amazing to read all the talkback articles from everyone irrespective of their allegiances and claim that they are experts voicing their different opinions of who is right or wrong.The bottom line which you all miss is that people are dying on both sides and you all seem to gloat as to who won or lost BUT YOU all seem to forget that people civilian and military are dying for their leaders actions and what happens in the end,somewhere along the line who knows when, a peace agreement will be realised not only in the Middle East but in other war torn parts in the world. In the interim families have lost loved ones to satisfy the auguments of military leaders and goverments.So keep your "military opinions" to yourself and write more about looking to a peaceful future and purge the word "aggression"from the English dictionary. Look to your left and right and say to your neighbours "let's work and pull together"
Hizballah, in crossing the border (an act of aggression) fired katyusha rockets into Israel as cover (again an act of aggression), prior to any Israeli reaction. Further, if you bothered to read what HRW stated about Hizballah war crimes, you would understand that the very fact that they fired weapons that could not be aimed precisely into areas where there were civilians, this action constituted a war crime. This is in addition to the clear war crime of not granting the basic rights to the prisoners that they hold. HRW has lambasted Israel for its wrongs in this war. Israel did not try to bully, threaten or prevent this. Hizballah, on the other hand, has actively tried to block HRW presenting its case publicly against them.
I would like to refer you to the UN site, "1,187 people had died and 4,092 had been injured in Lebanon as a result of the conflict. Many of these victims were children." http://www.un.org/Depts/dpko/missions/unifil/background.html Furthermore, under your logic - then just about all of Israel would be a legitimate target as they supported the war themselves. To keep things simple for you under International Law to which Israel as a state is obliged to follow. Civilians, no matter where they reside are not legitimate targets. I'll remind you that approx 1/3 of those killed were children. Not to mention the remaining women and elderly. In response to your question about who's wearing a uniform - it's just a piece of cloth. And even if it were more, then those wearing those uniforms should be the honorable ones. Shalom/Salam/Peace
You are right in some facts in your statement and I will fully agre with you if Israel started the war but since it was the so called "The resistanse" that started it all they must bare all responsibility to what happened. Don't forget that they claim a victory, what a joke.
"The hotel refused to hold the conference after the Lebanese government and Hezbollah harshly criticized the organization, and Hezbollah threatened to hold a demonstration in front of the hotel" This is the model of democracy you will get from the so called "The resistanse" or the Muslim Brotherhood.
you guys still have the face to talk! If i were you, I do not resign, I move to Canada. Before the war, all talkers here talk about the might, the just cause, the Merkava. After the war, they all talk about hizballah war crimes..what a shame on an army that runs away like a group of mise.. but this is good. from now on, israel will calculate 1000 times before dropping a bomb in lebanon because hizbollah already said -and every body believe them as they never lied like our stupid pms- that his missiles will rain not on Hayfa, not on Telaviv, but on the Daymona reactor. time to talk to hamas folks..
IDF is a uniformed army under the control of the israeli govt. Is Hez unformed - can you tell who is Hez and who is civilan? Is Hez an offical military branch of the Leb govt? Was it a secret to the Leb govt that Hez was an armed terror group operating with its borders? Did the Leb govt do anything to disarm Hez? the Answer to all of the above is NO. How do you know that the 1000 civilians that were killed were in fact all civilans? you dont. how do you know that they werent in any way supporting Hez by giving them food and shelter in order to hide from IDF and IAF. if a civilian allow their home or property to be used by terrorists then they are no longer civilians but terrorists. Their home and their land is now a combat zone. On the other hand. IDF is uniformed. IDF has military bases. Hez fired unguided rockets into israel cities. Who do you think Hez was aiming for? IDF solider walking around or civilians fearing for their lives?
Listen Mr "wet behind the ears". I do not know your age but I think you had better start talking either to your parents or grandparents and find out a little more of your own history of the 39/45 war and ask them to tell you how the Germans killed the Dutch civilians with their planes, guns and tanks.How many were slaughted when Holland was overrun and how many Dutch hostages were shot as reprisals.Then you come and talk to me about the Hezbollah and Israel.Do you HATE the Germans as you hate the Israeli's? Grow up and learn not to believe in news reports as reporters write reports in such a manner for you to believe in a "war crime" event that YOU have not actally witnessed yourself personally.Remember it was Hezbollah who defend themselves with human shields and I did not read this in a paper but repeated to me by a soldier who observed this incident.
All the delusionals saying hezbollah is killing its own people to make Isreal out to be a monster. This isnt even good as a joke. This might almost be believable to a small child if they didn't know that it is Hezbollah who is rebuilding the bombed houses, among other support for the lebanese. It is Isreal that sent 7000 rockets, what about the cluster bombs? Compare the Isreali dogs.. ermm military.. that has Jetfighters to the petty short range rockets that Hesbollah uses. Whats all this about a fight at the border when Beirut is in the middle of Lebanon and full of innocents.
You are correct about one thing....Israel is a democratic country. As for voting for peace, not for a moment should you believe the population has voted for a war! In order to establish peace you need to have a partner. To date I have yet to see one willing to sit down and negotiate a peace with Israel. To paraphrase the late Abba Eban...Arafat never missed a chance to miss a chance...and in giving back land to the pals Israel has only received a kick in the teeth. Unfortunately the only logic understood by some is the rule of force.If it were as easy to have peace in the middle east as you believe this would have been settled decades ago
What do YOU know about caring? You fight fire with fire...and war IS HELL. No body ever claimed war to be fun and games. People will get killed period. There is NO correct method to do so. The object of a battle is to leave your opponent in a weaker position in order to prevent any future onslaught. It is no less wrong to use the means at hand than it is to hide behind innocent civilians. If there is any delusion, it rests in your mind. As I said war is hell.
And if Israel did not use smart weapons they would have killed 100 times the number of civilians. You also neglected to mention that Israeli targets were military, command and control. Civilian casualties were collateral damage. The hez used dumb rockets aimed at civilian targets. Even you could not be that deluded.
Where is Maral now?! You need a First Amendment in Lebanon. Apparently, the government not only does NOT protect free speech, but is partnering with the terrorist organ, Hizb', in making sure that no opposing views are expressed!
Wow what a shock.
I don't agree that two wrongs make a right at all. I.e., I disagree with Hezbollah attacking Israeli civilians as a response for IDF attacking Lebanese civilians. But let's put this into perspective - yes Hezbollah crossed the border first and attacked Israel - who did they attack though? IDF or civilians? Who responded by attacking civilians? Why didn't Hezbollah kidnap civilians for 'Operation Truthful Promise'? Why is it that Hezbollah is labelled terrorist, yet IDF isn't? I recall Halutz saying he wanted to turn Lebanon's clock back 20 years. I recall Udi Adam saying 'No place in Lebanon will be safe' -indeed it wasn't. Approx 1,000 (+/- 200)Lebanese civilians were killed. Approx 39-40 Israeli civilians were killed. Indeed both the IDF and Hezbollah have some explaining to do. However, one is a recognised state, one is a recognised terrorist group. With privelage and power comes responsibility - I think it's fair to say IDF has alot more explaining to do given their powers.
And in case you didn`t know, the majority of those killed, other then soldiers of Israel, were Israeli Arabs. I don' think this is so. There were Arabs killed by Hizbollah, but they were not the majority (talking of civilins only).
Well Well look who is in trouble for human rights. Guess this will end the idea of sueing Israel. Yes Hezbollah started that war when it kidnapped the 2 soldiers and still refuse to release them and killed 8 others at the same time. Did Hezbollah think Israel would do nothing. What also is amazing is they referred to Hezbollah as a Lebanese guerilla group Yes they are nothing more then Terrorist. Call them what they are
and it couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of Israel bashers - Human Rights Watch. Now they too are victims of terrorism. How does it feel? Are you still committed to making sure their human rights aren't violated by Israel? Ha!
It says a great deal about Human Rights Watch that it is loathed by not only Hisbollah, but the Israel and American Right. It says it all. They are hated by very vicious vermin of both sides.
Thank you Human Rights Watch for telling it how it is. Though of course, I find the use of cluster bombs abhorrent in any warlike situation, at least I do know that Israel made the effort to spare Lebanese civilians by warning them to leave areas that would be under attack. Israel restrained itself. This was an unprovoked attack on its territory and its troops charged with defending its civilians. Hezbollah was just waiting after six years of building up its arsenal to rain rockets down on Israeli civilians in a constant barrage of 200 rockets a day, totalling about 4000. In this day and age, Israelis had to take cover in shelters, its soldiers bravely entered the no-man's land of Lebanese villages where gunmen would ambush them with ANTI-TANK missiles. 665 men have to be rehabilitated from their wounds, and will have to be followed for the rest of their lives by IDF medical personnel, as I have read in jpost.com, or haaretz, recently. These people are callous beyond imagination.
Ya, it's sickening to see Natallie acting like God's own referee.
Because Israel exists, the mideast is in constant turmoil and the world stands at the brink of total disaster? The Jews as JEWS don't deserve their biblical homeland to which they, however physically not present because of an historic exile, they have prayed for over 2000 years? The Jews were better off in Eastern Europe and the hovels of Yemen? The Jews' very NAME, their essence, is associated with Judaea, aka Land of Israel--get it?--LAND OF ISRAEL..Anti-Zionism is at its core anti-Semitism, aka hatred of Jews, their very essence. And when you write to India to complain about Kahmir, and to Pakistan for expelled Hindus, and to China for the Tibetans' sake, and to the Poles, Czechs and Russians on behalf of Germans, I might re-consider my opinion, but I sincerely doubt it.
The Hezbollah took two Israeli soldiers; which was not a warcrime. Israel started mass bombings of Lebanese civillian targets. Hezbollah has no sophisticated fighterjets with laser-guided bombs. Israel has the most sophisticated weaponery in the world. Yet Israel deliberately aimed bombs at civilian targets. The latter is a true war crime, whereas Hezbollah had no other option than to strike back with Katyusha missiles. Last but not least: Israel is and claims to be a democratic state. Its population can vote for a government and order this government to establish peace with neighbouring countries. Since the Israeli population voted for a right-wing government full of warmongers an religeous fanatics, the people of Israel simply asked for troubles. And the people of Israel will continue to ask for serious problems as long as it votes for people like Sharon, Nethanyahu, Barak, Olmert and so on. Israel can have peace tomorrow though it prefers to wage wars for territorial expansions.
Only Durson could refer to more deaths as "greater results". man, you are one sick dog.
Hez crossed into israel, Hez kidnappend and continues to hold 2 israel uniformed soliders, Hez refused to allow anyone to visit these solider, Hez purposely fired rockets into populated areas. Did it really take a year to get the facts?? While you are at it -- water is blue, its dark at night and i wonder if these guys are paid by the hour. Thats the only way i can explain the 12 month delay.
If they had started mentioning the crimes of the Israeli army with Qana 2 and the crimes in Mirwaheen and Marjeeyoun (killing a whole family with white flags who had the ok by the UN ) or the UN building etc... may be we would have believed the Human rights watch , but they show us How the zionist Movement is very powerful and now we believe it .
Another politicized move by HRW. What is this going to do but polarize the tension even more and open the eyes of the people to the scams that are UN or HRW. I guess there is a good in it.
All of the 1500 Lebanese deaths were civilians. Hizbollah fighters are not part of the Lebanese army and thus are defined as civilian. Civilian Combatants, but still civilians. How many of the 1500 were Hizbollah combatants? And will we ever know? I suspect that a large percent of the reported civilians were indeed combatants.
are you not aware that hezbollah never denied that civilians were the primary targets?! as a matter of fact, hezbollah, hamas, etc... explicitly state that their targets _are_ israelis, NO distinction is made between military and civilians, actually civilians are the more popular target as they are easier to kill and maim. if someone is shooting at your children from the neighbouring village, you will say 'why don't the people who live in that village do something? are they ok with it? they think its a good thing that my children are being shot at? that makes them my enemies.' - makes sense?
Lets look at the difference in the claims. In one case it is a very old claim but the reason for pursuing it was that for two thousand years, Jews were scapegoated, maimed, and killed outside of their homeland, with the ultimate being the Holocaust. Hence, it was imperative to get back into a state which Jews controled. The had never left voluntarily and this was a well known historical fact. In the other case we squatters, persons who knew or should have known that they were occupying Jewish lands. These squatters, many of whom were undoubtedly ingorant of Jewish entitlement (but that does not include their leaders) put a holy shrine over the holiest site of Jews,and over the years treated that site as a garbage dump, prevented Jews from visiting, engaged in pogroms against Jews, slaughtered the small remenants of Jewish population from time to time, considered Jews to be a lower class of human and organized an army to help Hitler. Of course, more current events get worse.
No difference whatever. And isn't it a freaking shame all the people on both sides died because of Nasrallah's Napolean complex? He's just a rat in a hole and nothing more.
Usually these groups line up to condemn Israel no matter the circumstance. About time AI, UN, BBC, CNN, ABC, LA Times and a lot of others started to tell the truth. It has been known for a very long time that the arabs will intimidate journalists...We will see if this is a sea change or throwing Israel/truth and fairness a bone.
Yes Israel killed way more but it was targetting war criminals who were firing indiscriminately at its civilian population. That those criminals chose the "time honoured" tactic of putting themselves amongst civilians is Lebanon's burden. Israel can't sacrifice its civilians so as to avoid risking Lebanese civilians. And so many of the reported civilians were nothing but aiding and abetting the terrorists. Its refreshing to see a little, but so far only a very little, honesty and understanding for Israel's position. To bad your hate for Jews &/or Israel undermines you as a human being. Your an evil little thing.
Israel also has bomb shelters for its citizens. It could have been much worse if not for them. Read the last line about the HRW condemning Hezbollah's use of human shields. The UN also condemned them for the same thing and so did the EU. Even Nasrallah blamed himself. And in case you didn't know, the majority of those killed, other then soldiers of Israel, were Israeli Arabs.
REGULAR WAR IS WHERE TWO ARMIES WEAR UNIFORMS AND ATTACK MILITARY TARGETS !! THE TERRORISTS THAT HAVE ATTACKED ISRAEL FOR 60 YEARS WEAR CIVILLIAN CLOTHES AND HIDE GENERALLY AMONGST WOMEN AND CHILDREN !! TRY THINKING BEFORE WRITING RUBBISH PLEASE !!
It is about time to face facts and not isolate issues, the entire existence of the state of israel is a catalyst in the middle east feuds. You want to discuss something, discuss the zionist's claim to another man's land. As long as zionist-jews claim Arab land and root it to their "right to claim" dating thousands of years ago, i believe the Arab community has the right to claim 60 odd years of internationally supported theft and occupation.
If anybody in the whole world is to be war criminal, got to be Israeli officials. They commited so many crimes, I'll live and see how many years of reparations istrael will go through.
Yes, part of what you say is true. Hezbollah used the cowardly approach of oftentimes hiding behind and around civilians. But Israel's use of cluster bombs is an indication that it simply did not care how many civilians they killed, since they knew they could just cite Hezbollah's cowardly tactics as the sole reason. The IDF TROOPS may have operated outside of civilian centers, but IDF cluster bombs were dropped in heavily-populated residential areas. Both Israel and Hezbollah are responsible for the civilian deaths in Lebanon, not only Hezbollah. Israel did not even have to start this war: it happened so soon after the kidnapping that it is clear they did not even try to send Mossad in first to retrieve the soldiers. It was merely an excuse to batter Lebanon, nothing more. Did Hezbollah exacerbate the situation by responding with rockets? Yes. Does that make Israel right? No.
One sided report. Hezbollah fired and killed more soldiers than civilians and Israel fired and killed all civilians and no militants.
You clearly didn't even understand what I was saying, though I'm not surprised. By proportional I was saying this: despite having more precise weapons, Israel killed a higher percentage of civilians than did Hezbollah. This is an indication that they are AT LEAST as uncaring about killing civilians. On top of this, the use of so many cluster bombs indicates that their goal was to cause as much destruction as possible. Hell, the cluster bombs are STILL killing people. Defend Israel all you want, but the simple fact of the matter is that it is no more decent, no more reasonable, than Hezbollah. And to destroy half a country and kill over 1000 people over the abduction of two soldiers? If you don't call that heavy-handed, then you are simply delusional.
The Lebanese people were the victim in last war. They were first attacked by Israel, the fifth biggest army on Earth. Would you expext Hizbullah to have the precision targets as IDF planes? The planes overflied civilian areas and bombed them. Hizbollah just fired. There is a difference. The best analysis of this, of course, come with the total number of civilians victims. Can you provide me the number please, David? Regards - Hey Baby, you (yes, you from Jakarta) you vanished?
both countries need to prioritise the protection of civilians, this basic recognition is a predicate for peace
How ironic, one day after Haaretz reported that Hezbollah was going to sue the state of Israel.
and especially hizballah are murderers, pure and simple.
Had Hezbollah not kidnapped two Israeli soldiers from Israeli land there would be no killings on both sides. It is every government?s duty to protect their citizens. Israel exercised its right to do that. You can not call a state terrorist for doing what every state must do for its citizens. However as you said (Hizbollah is guilty of "indiscriminately" firing their rockets into Israel) and they are indiscriminately targeting civilians Hezbollah is terrorist.
you think israel is to blame. blame israel for the Lebanon war deaths. blame israel for the sun rising in the east. something happens in Gaza? you blame Israel only in relation to the Lebanon war. your transparency is, well, transparent. Hezbollah launched missiles from civilian areas. israel retaliated, killing people. i only blame hezbollah. this is the game they play and these are the losses Lebanon suffers due to Hezbollah. Play with fire and you will burn down the neighbourhood.
Hezbollah forces operated exclusively alongside civilians which is why more of them died. They launched rockets from the tops of civilian buildings, from the center of town, etc. No technology in the world can take out rocket launchers without hitting civilians which are nearby. Hezbollah is solely responsible for all civilian deaths on the Lebanese side. All IDF troops operated exclusively outside civilian centers and there was no excuse for Hezbollah to target them. Israel apologized for mistakenly hurting civilians whereas Hezbollah boasted how many civilians it had killed.
The party of "god" hid its rockets in houses and apartments amongst Lebanese civilians so that there was no way for Israel to avoid collateral damage. Israel had provided bomb shelters for its citizens. The idea that Israel was more brutal because more Lebanese died than Israelis is ludicrous. Hisb'allah wanted civilians to die en masse because that would make them look like victims at the hands of the Israelis. Hisb'allah takes anyone for a fool who falls for this deception.
- Kennedy is dead - Tora is written in hebrew - Quassams do not have suggars and they are dangerous - Arafat, the mother of the revolution, is dead Rights groups you are a joke!!!!
On the same day that this story runs another on Haaretz runs under the title "Hezbollah to file lawsuits against Israel for damage caused in war"
Bombed southern Lebanon and Beirut's population centers and the civilian airport with 2000 pound bombs and with illegal concussion bomblets ( millions of which are still injuring civilans till today). Israel for over twenty years and still is refusing to hand over the maps of mines it laid in southern Lebanon , mines that are always hurting farmers and innocent children. North African WWII mines and unexploded ordinance are still killing and injuring hundreds of civialns in the Sahara , wher is the outrage of the west and Israelis.....
Why did it take 1 day to blast Israel but over 1 year to accuse Hezbollah who target civilians purposefully?
Hizbollah is guilty of "indiscriminately" firing their rockets into Israel. So true. Israel on the other hand was able to kill far more civilians because their aim was not "indiscriminate". Hizbollah is guilty of "terrorism" by a militant group. Israel is guilty of "terrorism" by a nation. Obviously, Israel is more advanced and more efficient which explains their greater results.
a political party within a state. Do the Democrats have their own militia to start a war? Do the Republicans have one? NO!!!!! Would the Dems use a militia to attack Canada? Would the Republicans? NO!!!!!! Since when does a political party have the right to have a militia in a Democratic country such as Lebanon? They illegitimately attacked a foreign country. PERIOD
It is the first time you can read an inetrnational human rights organization to condemn an arab group of violating human rights, hwen we look at the israeli / arab conflict. Even when the last terror war, initiated by the palestinians ( principaly Hamas ) with suicide bombing in the streets of israeli towns, no organization condemned the paletinians of war crimes, while they were very happy to condemn Israel for any small thing. It looks , that for you the world only exists, when it praises the arabs, but you forget the most horrible terror atacs were perpetrated by muslims
So, you count the dead on one side and then tell the opposing side they must have an equal number of dead? What the hell does proportionate number of dead have to do with war? Most moronic reasoning there ever was.
I have a question and have asked it so many times but get zero response to it. Please if you know the answer tell me. Why were the 19 children who were killed in an apartment bombing left alone? Why were there no parents or caregivers found in the ruins? Where were their parents when the Hezbollah were firing rockets from that area? Would you have left them? This has really agitated me for a year now. I would NEVER have left my children, especially those that young, to fend for themselves. Do you know why they were left behind?
And as expected from HRW's track records, I can expect the main barrage (rehashed from previous reports) will be levied against Israel.
...because our behaviour should not be based on our enemies'.
For a moment just imagine 100 times more powerful huzbulla attacking Israel . When i say Israel i mean civilians. Why Israel has delayed and ignored this cancer to grow in Lebanon. When will proper action will be taken . will it be before Israel burns or after. O people Of Israel The Lord is your Fortress. The Lord Gave you Power. Use it before Satanic powers are used against you. Untill when we will wait ...
When HRW accuses Israel you are one of the first to cheer them here and praising HRW. When it is accusing Hizbullah sudddenly you are not happy. At least Israel does not intimidate them as CK Tan has mentioned.
which the right-wing Zionists incessantly accuse of "anti-Semitism" and bias against Israel? I guess it has become credible overnight, until the next time it dares to criticize Israeli human rights abuse. Then it will suddenly have become anti-Semitic and biased again.
Two things. First HRW published a report condemning both sides right after the war. Their condemnation of Hezbollah is not new. Second, there are two important things to keep in mind here when discussing the war crimes perpetrated by both sides in this conflict. One is that Hezbollah, unlike Israel, does not have precision-guided weapons, and it is much easier for Israel to hit only military targets. However, Israel did not use precision weapons for the most part, and instead chose these things called cluster bombs. And this leads me to my second point: despite Israel's greater and more precise military technology, when you look at the total dead on both sides, the total percentage of Lebanese civilians is much higher than of Israeli civilians. Hezbollah, proportionately, killed more soliders; Israel, proportionately, killed more civilians. Both sides are at fault here, and what Hezbollah did was egregious, but what Israel did was worse and, as usual, disproportionate.
When Hizbollah fires rockets and missiles they are guilty of war crimes. When Israel and the US ( International Criminal Partnership) used tanks, jetfighters, gunboats and many of the arsenal provide by the US including the more than million cluster bombs to kill and maim and to destroy every thing and any thing, Israel is not guilty as charged and found innocent on all charges. This is the case now and this has been the case for the last 60 years. When a Jew get killed, every one jump, when thousand Arabs die, it is collateral damage, its parents who put their children in the line of fires, as human shields, etc., Israel is never responsible for its actions or the actions of its soldiers. There are many, many masaccres committed by the IDF and until now, no one have been brought to trial. There must be something wrong with world justice. I am for bringing in ALL terrorists to trial, Jews and Arabs equally. Put all killers and murderers on trial without exception.
Human Rights Watch today canceled a news conference planned for Thursday, August 30, 2007 in Beirut, citing reports by Hezbollah-controlled media about planned demonstrations to prevent the scheduled event at the Crowne Plaza hotel, and the hotel?s decision to disallow the news conference. In the course of preparing the report, Human Rights Watch repeatedly sought meetings with Hezbollah officials and solicited information in writing from them, with no substantive response. Al-Manar television and www.almanar.com.lb falsely stated that Human Rights Watch had been assisted by unspecified Lebanese parties in preparing the news conference. It refused repeated requests to provide Human Rights Watch an opportunity to present its report and respond to the accusations.
Hizballah are the front troops of Iran's on Israel's northern border. Hizballah would not have been able to function - ideologically, militarily, financially - without the back up of Iran. The accusation should have been directed, therefore, to Iran, the power that is aiming to extend its hegemony over the entire region and beyong and wipe Israel, a UN member state, off the map through whatever means, including nuclear weapons.
or pretends to be a democratic state.
the usual so called human rights protectors in the talkbacks such as Indrajaya, Clickfool, Dutch etc.
Rights groups (12 months late) have discovered the warm water! I suggest that they patent it quikly! David Pacifici
Israel is NOT responsible for killing 1500 civilians indiscriminately? What BS.
a little bit late...