Rightist MKs: 'Cursed' deal for Shalit will bring terror to Israel

"You play the victim very well but you can carry that mantle yourself. I want no part of what you and other like minded fools wish for Israel" You have that wrong, Connie. It is Israel and its supporters who "play the victim" on all occasions...

"These right wing racists are so controlled by animus and hatred that they have no room for compassion." Where is your compassion for people who can be the future victims of mass murderers?

"... there will never me an end to the mutual mayhem, if we do not break the cycle of retribution..." - Esther Your plea is sensible but ignores the Joy of Retribution, beloved of the right, and essential to preserving the war they love and fear to end.

Stick to the topic!

supremacists were never brought to justice --but South African Blacks demonstrated they wanted peace and were willing to accept the indignity of allowing their tormentors off the hook. Problem in Israel is only a very small minority want peace--the rest want the Palestinian people to just get out of their sight so they can continue with the Greater Israel project. Regards

Stephen, you make a good point and his quote does say "each", however it could the case where 8 people are arrested for planning a bombing that killed 2 people, and so on and so forth...

not one person.Menachem Begin was a excellent speeker.His speeches were eloquent,flowery and entartaining.He inspired people the way Barak Obama inspired millions of Americans to vote for hope.Americans did,. How many Afgani and Pakistani civilians were killed during the 9 months since Obama became President? Hundreds & counting.Would you call Obama a terrorist or Commander and Chief. You seemd to be challange to able to disntiguish between murderes like Hamas or Fath or Hezbollah who kill just for the sake of killing. Begin was no Kuntar nor Bargouti who killed in cold blood. When Begin ordered the bombing of the Hotel in Jerusalem,the Hotel floors were used as headquarters of British occupying forces.He didn't order bombing of residential neighborhoods like Hamas has been doing. It is cynical for Meshal in a recent interview to say Hamas sending missiles at Shederot,Ashkelon,Ber Sheva didn'tintend to kill civilians.No missile was aimed at IDF!Hamas targets only civilians!Terror

These right wing racists are so controlled by animus and hatred that they have no room for compassion. They are ready at every turn to pimp themselves for the sake of their own propaganda. How do they think the Irish did it? Did it not entail the release of hardened terrorists from both sides. These rabbis talk like paisleyites. They are prepared to sacrifice Gilad Shalit for their own agenda. They are beneath contmept and moral failures.

*alleged* Israeli war criminals.

In Sabra and Chatila, which was of course an Arab-on-Arab massacre, some 800 Palestinian civilians were ruthlessly murdered. So if you want to compare Nazi Germany to Israel as the perpetrators of 'horrific crimes', you would have to take Sabra and Chatila and add another one the next day, and another one the next, and another one, and keep counting until you got to SEVEN THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED Sabra and Chatilas. Then you would have something like the Holocaust, you ignorant goat!

those Israeli leaders that let him free in the first place should themselves be then brought up on murder charges immediately.

I dont disagree with your comments about Shalit, but the quote below shows complete ignorance. "When in reality a Palestinian living in the West Bank or Gaza need never see an Israeli if they stayed their side of the greenline." You really know nothing about the WB, do you? Most Pals have no choice but to encounter IDF virtually every day. They cannot move about between cities without passing through multiple checkpoints and often encounter Israeli patrols or raiders within their own towns and cities. Moreover, Pals are frequently accosted by settlers, especially when they are trying to tend their own fields. It is the Israelis, not the Pals, who force contact and generally make it as threatening and humiliating as possible.

"29,250 Israelis been murdered? Wow!! Did someone slip LSD in his booze?" What grade are you in? When are you going to start learning basic addition and multiplication?

Dear Suisse: "The nation with the most disgusting history by far of any on earth." : you mean the nation behind atrocities committed in Der Yassin, Sabra and Shatilla, Cana (twice),Qibya, Kafr Qasem just to name a few? "Unable to deal with the horrific crimes of your nation, unforgivable for eternity", you must be referring to Israel's refusal to deal with the Goldstone report, right? You have my full support, there!

Did someone slip LSD in his booze?

"Israel has the obligation to negotiate the return of Gilad Shalit, yes,..no matter what the cost." What if you start measuring the cost in human lives. If any Israelis are murdered by any of those who are released, you believe the cost is worth it?

"Israel cannot live by retribution alone... ... we would also not want the Pals to live by retribution alone... .. there will never me an end to the mutual mayhem, if we do not break the cycle of retribution..." Incarceration of murderers is not, "retribution," dingbat. It's a matter of public safety.

Have you been living under a rock or are you just deluded by the leftist propaganda that you lap up with your morning coffee. Israel has made concessions for years..the return of the Sinai...the return of Gaza...the return of murdering thugs like kuntar and hundreds more...what do you want Esther? Do you want Israel to totally loose their masculinity and help the palestinians and their partners in crime from iran to destroy the country. What could you possibly be thinking...whatever it is it is devoid of common sense and pride. You play the victim very well but you can carry that mantle yourself. I want no part of what you and other like minded fools wish for Israel.

the price of the lives of future isralis is not a price worth paying for one soldier sent into battle who knows he might die. Leaving no soldier behind can be accomplished by massive and contious destruction of any enemy who is holding hostages. Gaza should have been daily bombed until schalit was released without apoogy to the world. They would beg to release schalitrather than ridicule israel. a policy must make the enemy pay in blood and not israeli civilians. Israel must abandon proportionate response as it facilitates further terror. The ICC does not care about jewish lives.

Anti-Israel crap coming from a resident of the nation with the most disgusting history by far of any on earth. A nation which tried to take over the world twice and slaughtered a third of all Jews. This sickness of present-day Germans like yours is called Holocaust guilt backlash. Unable to deal with the horrific crimes of your nation, unforgivable for eternity, your kind must find egoistic refuge in obsessively bashing the one Jewish state, one of the oldest states and peoples known. I am deeply ashamed of my country's complicity with yours, in that we refused refuge to Jews trying to flee Germany's sick and ghastly industrialized massacres - of 6 million Jews and others who were not quite light-skinned enough to pass for "true" German. That you, as a German, must assuage deep guilt and giant ego by venting against Jews on an internet forum is simply disgusting. Filthy. Such gigantic guilt backlash and power-hungry ego will remain far too blind to ever begin to see this truth.

"The Israeli government intends to release 450 murderers of a similar caliber," he added. "These are murderers who have killed between one person to 65 people each" You do the maths, the report challenges. Assuming the MKs are concerned only with the murder of Jews, then if 449 of these people murdered only 1 Jew; and the other murdered the 65, then at least 514 Jews have been murdered by the prisoners to be released. Maybe I have missed something, or that is ridiculously higher than the truth. Is there any obligation for MKs to speak something like the truth?

... we would also not want the Pals to live by retribution alone... ... there will never me an end to the mutual mayhem, if we do not break the cycle of retribution...

if there is ever peace in Israel then a Commission simular to that in South Africa will have to be setup so perpetrators of human rights from both sides can cleanse themselves of thier sins...

"disgusting murdering hostage takers" True also for these Jewish heroes: Google Sergeants Affair ...

highly unlikely from these remarks that he has a family member serving in the IDF either. Or even knowledge of the covenant between soldiers of the IDF and the Israeli people that all soldiers come home, whatever the cost. Very ironic that he uses the example of a Russian Jew whose entry into Isreal should never of happened as an example. When in reality a Palestinian living in the West Bank or Gaza need never see an Israeli if they stayed their side of the greenline.

M. Chain Ben Kahan: How many people M. Begin has killed during his carreer as terrorist? He was even elected as PM, so please be careful with your judgement about palestinain terrorists. One of them may also become PM and you must live with him as your neighbor.

They have no idea about where they have taken Eretz Israel. They have brought us only catastrophe and now they wish to change the basic laws of ZAHAL. Well my learned friends, ZAHAL leaves no soldier behind. Israel has the obligation to negotiate the return of Gilad Shalit, yes,..no matter what the cost. Many a more thought I could add, however, its better to be silent and allow Gilad Shalit to be returned to his home. Good night from stormy Swiss Alps,

so, we need to release him, but not at the price of safety of 6,000,000 civilians living in Israel. It's a real tragedy but we need to seek a different method to Mr. Schalit release. It wasn't Israel who transferred him to Arab kidnapping. And those who are responcible for transfer have to bear the burden of undoing the kidnapping. There can be no two ways about it. You may not like it, but as Mr. Schalit deserves release, so do 6,000,000 people living in Israel deserve safety no less. And it is the wrong doer and his harborers duty to undo wrong.

My heart goes out to the Shalit family and I pray for the speedy release of Gilad every day. But the Govt is going about it the wrong way. Releasing hundreds of terrorists with blood on their hands is simply a bad option. Israel has other ways of freeing Shalit.

How disgusting to even consider making such a Faustian pact with disgusting murdering hostage takers! Do not free one Arab terrorist and murder other Jews! This is evil and wrong!

I agree,but as a father the freedom of Gilad Shalit is worth a billion times this filth that Israel will release.