Report: U.S. vows to halt Israeli building in East Jerusalem
Clinton: U.S. 'insulted' by settlement announcement; Quartet condemns Israel's 'unilateral action.'
By News Agencies and Haaretz Service Tags: Quartet Hillary Clinton Middle East peace Israel newsU.S. Middle East envoy George Mitchell promised Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas that the U.S. will bring a halt to Israeli building in East Jerusalem, a Palestinian official told the newspaper Al-Quds Al-Arabi on Saturday.
"In a telephone conversation, Mitchell said the U.S. would make sure Israel stops building in the area," the Palestinian official told the London-based Arabic daily newspaper.
The U.S. has recently expressed frustration over Israel's announcement on Tuesday of new settlement construction, a move that deeply embarrassed visiting U.S. Vice President Joe Biden and imperiled U.S. plans to launch indirect negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians.
In an interview with CNN aired Friday night, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Israel's announcement of new construction of homes in a Jewish neighborhood in East Jerusalem was "insulting" to the United States.
"I mean, it was just really a very unfortunate and difficult moment for everyone - the United States, our vice president who had gone to reassert our strong support for Israeli security - and I regret deeply that that occurred and made that known," Clinton said during the CNN interview.
While Clinton did not blame Netanyahu personally for the announcement, she said, "He is the prime minister. Like the president or secretary of state...ultimately, you are responsible."
U.S. State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley said Clinton spoke with Netanyahu on the phone and told him the announcement was a "deeply negative signal about Israel's approach to the bilateral relationship...and had undermined trust and confidence in the peace process."
"The secretary said she could not understand how this happened, particularly in light of the United States' strong commitment to Israel's security," Crowley said.
"She made clear that the Israeli government needed to demonstrate not just through words but through specific actions that they are committed to this relationship and to the peace process," he said.
Clinton's rebuke of Netanyahu capped a week of tense exchanges between the United States and Israel, which on Tuesday announced it was building 1,600 new settler homes in an area of the occupied West Bank it annexed to Jerusalem.
The announcement infuriated the West Bank-based Palestinian leadership, which threatened to pull out of U.S.-brokered indirect "proximity" talks with Israel that Washington hoped would be the first step toward relaunching full peace negotiations after more than a year.
Another senior U.S. official said Friday that Netanyahu's political standing is "perilous" because of divisions within his coalition over efforts to pursue peace with the Palestinians.
The official, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter, predicted "a dicey period here in the next couple days to a couple of weeks" as Washington tries to get the indirect talks launched.
Quartet condemns Israel: Unilateral action cannot prejudge talks' outcome
In addition to the U.S. condemnation of Israel's announcement, the Quartet of Middle East peacemakers also condemned on Friday Israel's announcement approving new construction in east Jerusalem.
"The Quartet condemns Israel's decision to advance planning for new housing units in east Jerusalem," the statement said. "The Quartet has agreed to closely monitor developments in Jerusalem and to keep under consideration additional steps that may be required to address the situation on the ground."
"Unilateral action by the Israelis or Palestinians cannot prejudge the outcome of (peace) negotiations and will not be recognized by the international community," the statement said.
"The Quartet will take full stock of the situation at its meeting in Moscow on March 19," the statement said.
The Quartet called on all concerned to support the urgent resumption of dialogue between the parties and to promote an atmosphere that is conducive to successful negotiations to resolve all outstanding issues of the conflict.
The group reiterated that Arab-Israeli peace and the establishment of an independent, contiguous and viable state of Palestine is in the fundamental interests of the parties, of all states in the region, and of the international community.
ADL 'stunned' by U.S. condemnation of Israel
The U.S. based Anti-Defamation League said late Friday that it was "stunned" by Clinton's "dressing down" of Israel.
"We cannot remember an instance when such harsh language was directed at a friend and ally of the United States," said Abraham Foxman, director of the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), in a statement.
The ADL called Clinton's remarks a "gross overreaction" to a "policy difference among friends."
"One can only wonder how far the U.S. is prepared to go in distancing itself from Israel in order to placate the Palestinians in the hope they see it is in their interest to return to the negotiating table," Foxman said.
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There will be a prosperous Israel and Palestine living side-by-side, intertwined in commercial adventures and interdependence. Little Israeli boys and girls and little Palestinian boys and girls will be hand in hand forgetting the enmity caused by "the iron fist."
Foreign official visitors go to the location of the Israeli office they are visiting. That is irrelevant. Foreign officials who visit CIA Hqs go to Langley, Virginia, and visitors to NSA go to Fort Meade, Maryland. That doesn't imply either of these places is the recognized capital of the United States. What's your point? I may be silly, but I am not the one who declared Israeli occupation of Jerusalem to be illegal, and denies Israeli sovereignty in Jerusalem. The UN does that. Do you really believe that UN resolutions regarding Israeli illegality in Jerusalem are propaganda to appease Arab oil producing countries. Propaganda is publicity. UN resolutions are real: the basis of international law. Do you really believe that the 6 Arab oil producing nations, .003% of the UN membership, dictate UN policy and legal determinations of the other 186 members. Are you nuts? You, sir, have made yourself sound like an ignoramus.
"Most people do not get it." You do not get it. "My Palestinian brother-in-law says that his family is originally from Jordan." And my Jewish brother-in-law says that his family is originally from Brooklyn. Nu? Why should one get right of return and the other not? "The uneducated masses have to come to terms, with the fact that the Jewish people have a right to their homeland." This is not a right, it is a privilege that is partly supplied by the USA. Do the Mormons have a right to their own sovereign homeland? The USA decided no. Do Taoists have a right to their own sovereign homeland? Discordians? Wiccans? "How in the world can the U.S. be insulted?" Oh, that one is easy. Obama had a private agreement with Netanyahu. Netanyahu would stop settlement while the peace treaty got started, and he wouldn't publicly say he was doing it. Everybody could win that way. And Netanyahu broke his promise with a whole lot of fanfare.
So open your eyes take your blinkers off, and get the gist of my post here. The liar is yourself..being biased naturally.
Most people do not get it. My Palestinian brother-in-law says that his family is originally from Jordan. Jordan and Lebanon refuse Palestinians entry into the land that they originated from. The uneducated masses have to come to terms, with the fact that the Jewish people have a right to their homeland. How in the world can the U.S. be insulted?
The fact that Jews were in Jerusalem long before Islam came to be is totally irrelevant except as a historical footnote. We are talking about now. As to your recent history, the fact that Israel because it was afraid of the international reaction if it did not take those steps opened access to Jerusalem does not justify its flagrant abuse of the rights of gentiles in other matters. One thing Israel has never been accused of is good will toward gentiles.
It's impossible to guess what you are a judge of: you certainly lack the gifts of profound knowledge and sound judgement. The US has been Israel's most fervent and loyal ally for over 60 years. But Israel has not always returned the attachment. In 1967, Israel attacked the USS Liberty and tried to sink it with all hands aboard. Israel has persistently run aggressive espionage operations against the US. The FBI, Justice Dept and State Dept have all stated ?Israel is the second most active intelligence service in the US.? China is 1st. Every US administration has told Israel not to build settlements in the West Bank and Jerusalem. Israel ignored all. In the hope of beginning peace talks, Obama has told Israel to freeze settlements. The Jewish reaction has been to call him every evil name thinkable, and act if he is Arafat reincarnated. That is not the behavior of an ally. US frightened? what drivel. The US is simply losing patience, and fed up with of the constant betrayals.
Linda, if you stand with Israel against your own country, you are a traitor. Another Pollard waiting for a good job with access to classified US documents. But the time has come for the US to start pursuing its own national interests, not those of Israel. Israel is a rogue nation, violating international law, and defying US interests. Biden told Bibi in private, "This is starting to get dangerous for us. What you're doing here undermines the security of our troops who are fighting in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. That endangers us and it endangers regional peace." The vice president told his Israeli hosts that since many people in the Muslim world perceived a connection between Israel?s actions and US policy, any decision about construction that undermines Palestinian rights in East Jerusalem could have an impact on the personal safety of American troops fighting against Islamic terrorism. It is time to tell Israel, enough! The US will not continue to support a rogue nation.
Facts are facts: please make a list of the countries who have embassies in Jerusalem. It should not take long.
Stephen, I agree with you. I was disagreeing with #31. If $1 Billion in US taxes goes to Israel and they spend it all in the USA, then US people get jobs and Israel gets the goodies they make. But if US government spends that money in the USA then US people get jobs and US government gets the goodies. On the other side, if US military buys military equipment in Israel -- copies of US equipment, then US "benefits". Israel gets jobs and money to buy things from anybody in the world. US gets military equipment. But if US military spends the money in the USA then US people get jobs and money to buy things, and US gets military equipment. US congressmen fight over which US district gets that kind of largesse. This doesn't mean Israel is wrong about anything, but the claim that Israel does USA a favor by taking US money is very very silly.
As a Jew I am so sick of the bullying, gang-like behavior of the Israeli government. The land was originally taken from the people of Palestine. Their needs and rights must be respected in any solution to this original injustice. The way Israel negotiates is like the sleazy shop owner who marks high prices on all his goods, then adds stickers with the actual retail price and calls it a fire sale. How stupid does the goverment think we are!
Why should the US and EU be determined to place an economic embargo against the Jewish State?Israel is not trying to destroy a Palestinian nation.The Arabs were the one after the 1967 6-Day war who refused to negotiate,have peace and recognize Israel.The Palestinian government under Arafat and Abbas refused to accept very generous offers for a state which included 97% of the West Bank and part of Jerusalem.The Pals wanted no Israeli state as their neighbor.They wanted the entire land between the sea and Jordan River for their nation.Your characterization of the Jewish State's defense of nation as "lawlessness" and "parasitic population in the territories" has nothing to do with reality.It has more to do with the success of Israel's defensive measures to reduce the murder of Israel's people by rocket attacks,suicide bombings,kidnappings and other means.Your hatred and ignorance of the Jewish State's efforts to survive in a sea of Arab loathing is showing.
is it something else? In either case, take a valium (invented by Jews) and go to sleep....and wake up feeling yourself.
is it something else? In either case, take a valium (invented by Jews) and go to sleep....and wake up feeling yourself.
Charges that Israel has been "ethnic cleansing," and has "deported" Christians and Muslims is a complete fabrication.I would substitute "Arab nations" for Israel and you would be more correct than wrong.You are correct,"Talk is cheap." And you are the prime example of that maxim.
The bible fortells how the world will blame isreal for its troubles in the last days. The u.s. will pay for it's raw treatment of isreal.Our govermet is controlled by satan him self.....I feel sorry for this country for we shall feel the rath of god soon and very soon!
Although they call Tel Aviv as the capital Which if it wasn't too ludicrouse it would be laughable,to say the least. Then remember whenever any politicians or high ranking visitors where do you think they go? THEY GO TO JERUSALEM PERIOD. You silly man...you can try and disqualify Jerusalem BUT IT IS THERE THE VISITING LEADERS ALLWAYS GO,and most certainly NOT!Tel Aviv. This is mere propaganda to appease the Arab sheiks for the simple reason recognizing Jerusalem as the UNDIVIDED CAPITAL OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE would endanger by the displeasure to the said OIL RICH ARABS///// Not only the USA but the rest of cowardly nations of the world who's dependancy to oil is the PRIME reason.
The Pals had many opportunities to have their own nation in the West bank and Gaza,but they refused.The wanted the entire land from the Jordan to the sea.I am not going to review the entire process of negotiations,but Arafat and his successors used any excuse to avoid the continued presence of Jewish State.Even with billions of dollars given to them by the UN and other organizations,they spent most of this on efforts to harass and destroy the Jewish State instead of building a peaceful viable nation for their people.
We were in Jerusalem nearly 2500 years before the Muslim conquering of that holy city.The Jews were the ones who opened Jerusalem to all faiths. The Jews allowed the Muslims to administer the Temple Mount and to limit visits to that area of non-Muslims.Your knowledge of its recent history is seriously deficient.
The US leadership is simply trying to divert attention away from the reality that their corporate nation is in a rapid state of social, political, and economic disintegration - approaching a full blown collapse. Israel, and by default, Jews, are an easy, temporary diversion to keep 'the world' and its own citizens in a state of mental stupor. Jerusalem is the capitol of Israel - they can build anywhere they want. The sooner Israel ditches the US and gets as far away from the sinking Titanic as possible, the better.
#3, VIPER, in mind as in name, a psycho.
I, as a Christian who loves Israel,want to say that I unequivocally denounce and reject the un-biblical and self-jeopardizing stance of the current U.S. administration where Israel and Israel's Capital City of Jerusalem is concerned. The G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, gave the Land of Israel to the their descendants....ALL of the Land of Israel... including JERUSALEM! For the current (and illegitimate) American administration to dictate to Israel where it can or cannot build in its own land is well beneath a lack of character, wisdom, and sensibility. Israel's direction and authority is to come from the L-RD and not from a sinister charlatan masquerading as a president who seeks child-murder funding in a health-care bill (see Molech). I fear for the nation of America as Adonai's judgment will fall upon all those who come against Jerusalem (Zechariah 12 and 14). May all of Israel love the L-rd your G-d with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength and be not dismayed.
beeing a jew is a liability indeed,it is not over until is over ,why and how is long way out of the the way for the time beeing ,if you are missing a part of the brain you may never know why?...go back to your cave and wait for the next hit..
The US and EU should put their foot down and withhold aid and trading privilages if Israel fails to comply as indivduals and groups across the board are planning to do also.... This should be painful and hit hard as people are fed up with Israel's lawlessness and its parasitic population in the territories and are united in their efforts to put an end to it all! Dutch
the profecy states that because of theres sins they will be hated ,prosecuted ,terminated ,cornered,pressured in many ways to the point that they will accept the most unwanted thing ,the one they do not want to talk about to this day,the holly one,that day all inequites will be forgiven ..but what a pain....
Israel has always and will always do what is best for Israel (at least what the Zionists think is best for Israel) Now, if only the rest of the World dealt with Israel in a manner which is best for them and not in total fear of the "Little Nuclear Nuthouse in the Middle East", the World would be a much safer place. The fact is that Israel is going to be the catalyst for WW3, and then will become spectators to the madness. As for the US becoming broke, simple fix, STOP giving Billions to Israel, STOP spending Billions on things designed to kill brown people, AKA Israels perceived enemies and do a "LOYALTY" check on ALL of your politicians, the ones with "dual-citizenship" in particular.
Israel, set your best nuke to 38°53′42.4″N 77°02′12.0″W Washington D.C.
i am at the third one and find your comment verry advanced ,i think it all happens for a reason ,what has to happen will happen ,we feel disgusted mostly because we do not realy understand why and how,there are places where you can look and feel opposite
It's nice to that we're not allowed to "whine" about our tax dollars.
there is no power in the heaven, on earth or under the earth that will stop them from building and expanding,there time has arrived according to the ancient scripts ,they are hated ,they are alone,they are small,they have limited ability to survive,will they make it another year???
Netanyahu must stay the course. Israel is right in allowing new construction to let it's people live there they wish. Be courteous and diplomatic to the U.S. but that is all. Stay the right course. "Do not" apologize. Only then, will Biden and Clinton and the Obama administration respect them and realize they cannot dictate to them any mre than they can to Russia, China, Germany, or France. Stay the course and offer no apolgize! Fight the good fight!
Isreal should do what is best for themselves and don't worry about what the US thinks because by the time Obama, Biden and Clinton get done we'll be a broke 3rd world contry anyway.
let us not forget the Clintons promise to build the US embassy in Jerusalem, vetoed by husband Bill of course, 'national security issue' = oil. Fairweather friends just seem to always hang around waiting for the next insincere moment to 'take charge and show us all how it must be done'. Shalom on Isra'el and Her good people, va'ed. 'this day your rule has been weighed in the balance, Mrs Clinton.
David bought a threshing floor in the newly occupied city of the Jebusites, intending to build a magnificent Shekinah, but God said that he could not construct the temple, but that Solomon should (1 Chronicles 21-22). And the Israelites did not even know how to build a temple, so Solomon asked king Hiram of Tyre to send the materials and workmen (see 1 Kings for details), for which he gave Hiram 20 cities in Galilee, but Hiram was not happy with what he considered a paltry payment. Galilee was then occupied by Phoenicians, so it should belong to Lebanon according to the Holy Scriptures. Anyway, there is not a shred of evidence for this magnificent temple. Only a BUFFOON would believe the old stories literally.
Israel has been ethnic cleansing Palestinians and when Christian Serbians did thus to Bosnians they were punished. When whites Afrikanners practiced apartheid, they were punished and Israel helped them export their goods. Israel has deported Christians and Muslims from Jerusalem for a long time, and the US just talks. Talk is cheap.
Mr. Netanyahu, STICK TO YOUR POSITION! Please don't back down! Have courage! Do what is right! Sincerely, Mrs. Betty Nelson (a supporter)
Sure ! Peace is threatened by those building houses. Peace is not threatened by kidnappers, rocket firing terrorists, homicide bombers, weapons smugglers, folks who teach their kids hatred and so on. If you believe that, then I have a bridge to sell you. Get real and get a moral compass.
The US should lead by example. They should stop building in Caifornia whilst there's one unhappy Mexican. Stop building in TX, NM and so on if they want to set a really good example. Refund the LA purchase too whilst they're at it. Heck stop building in the whole of modern USA whilst there's one unhappy native american. They sure have a stronger historical claim to the current USA than pals do to current disputed territories. Oops, is that asking too much from American ?
Why are you wasting our time? You are quoting The Jerusalem Embassy Act of 1995. It was never implemented. In the US government, the legislative branch has no constitutional authority over foreign policy. There is not one foreign embassy in Jerusalem. Israel has no legal basis for sovereignty in Jerusalem. Israeli annexation of Jerusalem is a violation of UN resolutions and articles of the 4th Geneva Convention. It has committed a war crime in Jerusalem. Every foreign embassy is in Tel Aviv: the legitimate capital of Israel.
Arnold , why don,t you read history?The JEBUSITES and remember the name Arnold, JEBUSITES the forefathers of the Palestinians were the builders of JERUSALEM and when jews arrived into Jerusalem it had been built by the JEBUSITES hundreds of years before that.
wouldnt you? She will stop Israel from building? Isnt screwing up our counrty enough??
do you plan to halt regarding the palestinians? These issues will not be solved with a one-sided approach, not by a long shot
just so we don't get confused in this, i am actually saying that the reason why israel has over 200 nukes is because if the world starts to act israel will fire one for each of us, or even clearer i'm saying it's israel that is a real threat to the world.
As a USA citizen I am embarrassed by Mrs. Clinton and the Obama administration. They do not represent the majority of Americans. I am ashamed of their policies concerning Israel. What God has given to the nation of Israel no man will take away. Shalom
it is time to cut loose the usa has nothing of value in common with isreal
cheating on the palestinians has been paying israel for too long. those who cheat are a disgrace.
Perhaps you forgot about the Wye Plantation meeting in Maryland some ten years ago, when then Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was treated so rudely by President William Jefferson Clinton, husband of Hillary Clinton. I can not believe that so many American Jews have been decived and fooled by the Clintons. I am one of the twenty percent of American Jews who voted for Senator John McCain and Nancy Palin for President and Vice President in November of 2008, and this is exactly the reason why.
Who woulda thunk it? A US politician with a spine, a Democrat no less? Somebody in the Obama Administration grew a pair. WOW!
Who woulda thunk it? A US politician with a spine, a Democrat, no less? Somebody in the Obama Administration grew a pair. WOW!
"There is a God in Heaven and He is the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob and He will defend His people- the Jews. I suggest you read Ezekiel Chapter 38-39 to see what this "flyspeck" of a nation.." And what did Ezekiel have to say about the Holocaust, Robert? 2 billion Christians agree that jews missed the boat almost two thousand years ago.
WOW... and I always thought that that the U.S. had a lock on stupidity... who knew?
..your simple economics model doesn't work, because "where did the first $1 billion come from?"..US tax payers--the US treasury and now it's borrowed, so w/ interest it will be greater than $1bil. If "washington" wanted to stimulate the USA economy it would spend directly and affect the industries it wanted to, such as "cash for clunkers" helped the us auto industry. How many autos would you buy with your $1 Bil? Any way..25 % of the military aid program for Israel is not spent in the US--the only country to have this exemption. grow up J Thomas
With friends like Israel, who needs enemies! Israel is not a partner, they are a taker.
"What are you doing in my country" You sound like a thug. What are you doing in MY country. If I didn't know better, I'd think you are one of those campus thugs doing the Israel Apartheid BS. Your ignorance astounds. Zip it.
Poor ol' Abe. Maybe in his next life he'll come back as the nice Polish Catholic boy he really is, deep down inside.
Take it from me I am a judge. America is FRIGHTENED and they cover up their fear by giving orders to the only_ REAL_ FRIEND_they have in the ME Israel.
To be precise FT..You forgot THE JEWISH TEMPLE Built by KING DAVID.So,a bit more than a few vilages wouldn't you say.What of the Romans Herod the Great ha? oh yes memory lapse. What A BOFOON
I keep seeing the claim that the USA should not preach to Israel because because the USA took indian land. "Give back the USA to the indians first, then talk to Israel." But see, the USA genocided the indians. Now they are less than 1% of US population. It wouldn't make sense to give it back to so few, would it? There are about 6 million Jewish israelis, and about 1.5 million arab israelis, and a whole lot of palestinians in West Bank and Gaza, yes? What USA did would be like killing all but 60,000 of the Palestinians. At that point no one would expect you to give the whole country back, or even very much of the West Bank. I do not recommend that approach. Better for Israel to join the USA and say Never Again. If a reformed serial killer who killed many innocent people tells you that it is not a good thing to do, do not say that you have just as much right as he did. Just do not go there.
Let?s say Israel achieves this and the world stays silent (HIGHLY UNLIKELY), then what? What if Moslem countries follow Israel?s example and want to do the same across the Moslem world, committing ethnic cleansing and genocide against all religions but Moslems? What is Christians so the same in other ?Christian? countries (i.e. US, Europe, South America, etc.) but EXEMPT Jews due to the Judeo-Christian link? Thank you Jewish State of Israel, you just triggered a global religious war!!! Where is the logic in that? Israel, for your interest, time to make peace before it?s too late for you! We sure can wait you out?
"If you bozos has the slightest bit of brainpower you would know how trade and economics work. The tax dollars given to Israel come back to you in jobs from science to farming." In all fairness, I do know about trade and economics. Your argument is bogus, which does not mean that Israel is wrong -- only you are wrong. I will show you. Give me personally a billion dollars of the money to Israel. I promise I will spend it all in the USA in one year. I am living in the USA at the moment, after all. I will buy food. I will buy guns. I will buy gold. I will buy real estate. I will buy stocks. I will spend $1 billion and it will help the US economy. Everything that I buy has to be made, and the people who make it and sell it to me will have jobs and money. At the end of the year I will have guns, gold, real estate, stocks, etc that I would not have otherwise. I will be rich! But I claim that USA is better off because of all the people who worked hard to give me stuff. Hahahaha!
... not war! Netanyahu's government will never achieve peace! And Yisrael Beiteinu plus Shas are the worst of it. Take Kadima in, and them out; ...Likud with Kadima, plus Labor should be enough to govern...with (hopefully) better brains...also, much less money thrown out!
Most of those who have defended Israel here are not looking at what is trying to be accomplished. Israel has to be honest about whether it is willing to give the Palastinians a homeland that is a modern reality, or that they do not want to. Israel needs to come to a national concensus about the position of the settlers and thier supporters that Israel has the right to any land that they lived on thousands of years ago. The they need to be honest with the world about what feel they will allow to happen. Israel's neglect of this issue is an insult to America's efforts on their behalf.
USA hasn't actually done anything, they have just talked. It's good for them to talk tough to Israel. They'll lose standing in rest of the world if they don't. So USA can do more good for Israel if it talks tough now. Please don't do anything extreme. If Israel cuts arms shipments to USA while USA is fighting two wars, they will be upset. They will blame reverses in those wars on Israel whether the arms shortages are really the issue or not. And in the long run they will increase their own capacity and stop buying from Israel. If you stop selling due to a minor disagreement, how can they trust you to produce in wartime later? Please don't punish USA for talking tough. They're doing the best they can to support Israel in all real terms. Don't get upset just over words.
well then if thats the case, the capital for jews is all over the european states, since most of you are romanians,and germans,and austria, and polish, and well the list goes on and on. jerusalem is the capital of the world not just isrl. i say
I totally agree with the notion that God abandoned the Jews and brought the holocaust upon them. I am Jewish only because I was born and brought up to be a Jew, but logic tells me that in this world being Jewish is at best a permanent liability. Nevertheless, I am a Jew because the world me. Self preservation and defiance of my oppressors is what anneals me to my fellow Jews for whom I will forever give my last drop of sweat and blood. don't preach laws and justice to me! Law and justice, and religion are cloaks worn by Christian crusaders and Muslim jihadists when they rob, pillage and murder innocent Jews. did you join in their enterprise just to save yourself?
In that case next time you go to the ballot box to vote...be careful,VERY CAREFUL where you put your "tick" on who you want the next PARTY/PRESIDENT to rule your country that is going down the drain at the rate it is now. Making more enemies and great problems with the economy and UNEMPLOYMENT. The worse president since Jimma Carter for sure.
It hardly ever gets a mention here, perhaps because it represents the final death throes of the British Empire.
In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto your seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates: - Gen. 15:18
The Americans cannot do anything about it. We are the BOSS of our country and not the 51st state...YOU BETTER believe it james boyo. I heard Clinton on the radio this morning..sheesh! A load of whining about the so-called disrespect on Biden.Whaaat! If they are going to order Israel wily,nilly,and need respect,the one BIG THING THEY CAN DO IS: Move the embassy to Jerusalem OUR CAPITAL...Then we'll show SOME RESPECT DUE.
we dont like your kind here
Why in the world do you want to live amongst a population that hates you? You have plenty of land to build elsewhere however you insist on getting in the middle of those Arab neighborhoods just to antagonize them. I've always supported Israel but you are beginning to lose your moral high ground and the support of the American people.
You've got to halt 'em all including Palestinian construction in disputed areas. Otherwise, you are taking sides in this sixty-two-year-old war, Hillary.
Seems to me that this government of Netanyahu resorts to insulting foreign diplomats at every level. Not too long ago, they showed little respect to the Turkish Ambassador, and now to the Vice President of the United States of America. I wonder who is next on the list???
I'm sorry but I would argue that one of the largest deterents for Israel not being attacked is the fact that the US is standing behind Israel. Correct me if I'm wrong but Israel's airforce is comprised mostly of US aircraft. Furthermore, the US has Patriot Missile batteries is Israeli cities. If Israeli's don't care I suggest you start looking somewhere else for your defensive needs. Oh right I forgot, they do care and know that THE US MAKES THE BEST WEAPONS IN THE WORLD.But it's alot easier to blame the American's when you overlook things like that. Right?
May the Lord God bless Israel and her people. Build on the land given to you by the living God. Part ways with those who would condemn you. There can be no compromise with those who would wipe you off the face of the earth. My votes and my voice are with you. Possess the land!
When Israeli Jews and Israel firsters demand that the Native Americans should demand that their land be returned. Native Americans of course having their full rights in the United states, and with Casinos on their reservations there are Americans desperately trying to prove that they are native Americans as they are extremely wealthy individuals these days. Also those who propose that their land be returned, don't acknowledge that Native Americans have full voting rights in the United States and Canada. I suppose it shows just how desperate they are becoming. Time for another war with Lebanon me thinks.
Being someone who is not Jewish, nor Muslim I have followed this conflict and seen hypocrisy and outright lies on both sides of the fence. However, being someone who is also an optimist I hoped that Israel would take the charge in leading the peace efforts, especially with the help of the US. Unfortunately, it appears that Israel will also sink to the ranks of unconstitutional land grabbing because religion says it's okay. Sorry, but Islam also justifies the use of martyrs, maybe next time they attack that should be at the back of your mind. Please Israel, for the sake of peace in your country and one of your truest allies, take a step forward.
The time has come to force peace upon Israeli extremists and settlers, for the sake of the nation of Israel. All settlers must be removed from East Jerusalem, if necessary by force. Pro-peace Israelis and Westerners have spent too long waiting for peace, they should not have to endure this situation any longer because of a few settlers and of their illegal housing in East Jerusalem. Let them go to Israeli and find a honest job instead.
The USA should withdraw from trying to impede Israel's national interests. Clinton, George Mitchell and Obama are obviously unaware or don't care that Israel and Jerusalem belong solely to the Jews both by covenant and historical prcedent. Jerusalem is not mentioned in the Koran. Arab efforts to take Jerusalem from Israel will ultimately end in TOTAL disaster for the Arabs. The once-powerful USA may be standing on a precipice:split Jerusalem and watch the New Madrid rift valley at the Mississippi river split with horrific consequences for the USA. Possible? Let's see. Edwin Ernest
Fair enough. We have told the people of Puerto Rico that if they want, they can be independent. Do the same for the Palestinians. By the way, that you are Jewish and happen to believe Jerusalem is yours is irrelevant. Jews should be treated like everyone else - no better, no worse. Your religious beliefs entitle you to nothing.
Dear Hillary, Forgotten your history class? Abraham, Isaac, Moses and the promised land? By the way, how are the Indians doing? Yours
Enough is enough and I am a Zionist.
This resolution has nothing to do with the Law of the Land. If it was pertaining to the Law of the Land it would have had to be passed by a majority of the Congress. So....get over it.... you don't even understand your own country's process....that is why our country's survival depends on imported talent from all over the world.
From what I understand, it is a Muslim religious tenet that once a country has been ruled by Muslims, it should always return to that state. Why should we pick your religious tenets over theirs?
There's too much religious and political fat in the Palestinian/Arab-Israeli/Jewish matter. All fat of the situation side, violently bulldozing settled people out of an area so you can house your own favored group people is ethically wrong. Heck, a state specifically favoring a group of people, in itself, is wrong. No one should be allowed to do it. Religion, politics, loyalties, and permission or rebuke from an international community don't enter into it. It's just wrong.
The land belongs to Israel period. The newly named Jordans (palestinians) have every right to move back to Jordan. Not take hafe of Israel. May the God of Abram watch over Israel.
... not war! Netanyahu's government will never achieve peace! And Yisrael Beiteinu plus Shas are the worst of it. Take Kadima in, and them out; ...Likud with Kadima, plus Labor should be enough to govern...with (hopefully) better brains...also, much less money thrown out!
Then you can leave and we will somehow manage to muddle on through without you.
Hillary, you go girl, for having the gonads to tell Bibi like it is, unlike Mr. Joe Bendin knee
USA should turn Israel around and Kick hard with wearing construction shoe (where we all know.)
and making lots of money doing it....Incidentally, I was begged by YOUR COUNTRY to come here for a few year's stint. You need a lot of outside brains to run this terrific country with brain dead inhabitants.
AS FOR ME AND MY HOUSE, WE STAND WITH ISRAEL
California and Texas will not phsically be returned to Mexico...but the Spanish population is growing so fast that the language of the majority will eventually take over. And in parts of Michigan the eventual majority will be Muslim. Spanish Catholics and Arabic speaking Moslems. The new look of Eastern and Western USA. The leaders of the KKK must be chomping at the bit to make a move soon.
With Iran and the Obama administration ensuring that any peace agreement must be approved by those committed to Israel's destruction, any "peace now" would inevitiably lead to the defeat and destruction of Israel. Bibi is obviously intelligent enough to see the obvious, which is why there will be no such suicidal "peace" agreement in our time. Maybe in three years, when the Obama administration is relegated to the dust bin of history, Israel can afford to make an effort to a "peace" agreement with the palestinian leaders who are so dedicated to israel's destruction, but NOT NOW!
Here's a reply : UN Resolution 242 (and that is only one of 'em). Yet again, you will come up with the fact that UN Resolutions are non-binding to Israel. US Congressional resolutions are the same. Now I also know where this is going to lead to: God gave us the land, it is written in the Bible and so on... And Noah's Ark existed too!
I agree with Matt PLUS Pres. Obama is proving over and over that he acts and behaves as a Socialist/Marxist and doesn't seem to care at all what Americans think as he goes about changing our country for the worse. How any other country can have respect for that is beyond me. We can't run our own country, how heck does any other country think we can run theirs??? US is proving with this Administration that we are incapable of telling other countries what to do. I want to see a Peace between peoples and it seems to me many things keep popping up to prove that any of Gods people are willing to make peace happen.
Hypocricy reigns supreme!Despite the 3000 year connection of Judaism to Jerusalem and Zion,the land that the Pals want for a state includes Jerusalem,which they discovered in 1967.Well let us see about Isreal's critics:The US grabbed Puerto Rico from Spain around the turn of the 20th century; and stole thousands of square miles from the native Americans even before that time.The British grabbed the Malvinas Islands from the Spanish/Argentinians around 1813 and Gibraltar during the War of Spanish Succession(1701-1714).The Russians liberated Kuril and Sakhalin Islands from Japan in 1945. Note quite the length of religious and emotional attachment in the hearts and minds of the conquering peoples as the Jews for Jerusalem.But politics be damned - they are only Jews.Besides no one is complaining at the UN,EU or any other alphabetical organization.Hooray for hypocricy!
Bravo Israel! Obama honestly vowed to bring Israel to its knees from the start and even before his presidency. No matter what Israel does Obama damns it one way or another. So it is the best time now to build up as much as possible in Jerusalem and anywhere in the land of Israel, since Obama will damn you if you do and he will damn you if you don't.
This presents itself as a historical opportunity for the start of a lasting peace.....Instead of building a new 100% jewish settlement on land that will be displacing an established arab community, why not build a 50/50 split of the housing? I mean why not every other house being a arab house? Neighborhood children will learn to play toghether, go to school togeher, speak the others language, develope as both neighbors and friends.....The US had a very difficult race relation problem up untill the times when forced bussing of school children opened the minds of both races! The old bigots will never change, but the minds of the young are able to accept change as the normal way to think.....There has been too much hatred and deamonizing on both sides...there needs to be peace, and the way starts with taking heads out of holy books and start reading more about what M. Ghandi was able to do with non-violence....Brett Las Vegas...
If Israel needs to keep ANY portion of the Palestinian areas that it acquired via winning wars it's East Jerusalem, no if's and's or but's. Looks like this administration is no better at managing foreign relations than it is at managing healthcare issues...
The Netanyahu Administration is a mirror image of the the Bush/Cheney Administration. In-Your-Face politics that do nothing to promote peace. The U.S. should immediately stop all monetary & military aid until they recant their position.
and get your cousins out of palestine...and what are you doing in my country? art student?
So tired of the anti-semitism and defamation canards.
I think they have problems with Iran and they are taking it out on Israel. So I say get Stu--ed to the U.S.A.
Israel must think for her future now. At present, it might be all in Israel's favor. But look at the history and learn from it. Peace now or defeat later?
need to move because you see we are a secular country which means favoring no religion so take yours and hit the road jack
So, does that mean that the descendants of the Romans can legally claim land everywhere in which Romans or Greek or Mayan ruins are found??? Your claim has no bearing.
What's it got to do with defamation?
Rest assured that no one likes Hillary, or Biden, or B. Hussein Obama anymore. That is really, um, jerk-like of them.
Israel should agree to stop building in the West Bank when the US agrees to stop construction in Texas which the forcefully took from Mexico.
What is amazing is that you think that after getting 78% out of all this, that you just gotta have the other 22% and that a 78%/22% outcome is not justice enough for you and them. Amazing. The world is tired of this.
Beware of any agreements made with this current Administration in Washington. They fooled alot of Americans but America is waking up. Obama's armored car is nicknamed "the Beast." You can read the writing on the wall. Beware
There were not more than some villages at that time.
Congressional resolution, April 24, 1990: "House Resolution Expressing Support for Jerusalem as Israel's Capital Whereas the State of Israel has declared Jerusalem to be its capital; Whereas from 1948 to 1967 Jerusalem was a divided city and Israeli citizens of all faiths were not permitted access to holy sites in the area controlled by Jordan; Whereas since 1967 Jerusalem has been a united city administered by Israel and persons of all religious faiths have been guaranteed full access to holy sites within the city; Whereas the President and the Secretary of State have demonstrated their strong desire to achieve a just and lasting peace in the Middle East and have worked diligently toward that end; Whereas ambiguous statements by the Government of the United States concerning the right of Jews to live in all parts of Jerusalem raise concerns in Israel that Jerusalem might one day be redivided and access to religious sites in Jerusalem denied to Israeli citizens; and the search for a lasting peace in the region: Now, therefore, be it Resolved by the House of Representatives (the Senate concurring), That the Congress (1) acknowledges that Jerusalem is and should remain the capital of the State of Israel; (2) strongly believes that Jerusalem must remain an undivided city in which the rights of every ethnic religious group are protected; and (3) calls upon all parties involved in the search for peace to maintain their strong efforts to bring about negotiations between Israel and Palestinian representatives."
Unfortunately, Mrs.Clinton does not understand or appreciate the historical significance of Jerusalem to the Jew,Israeli or Judaism.The Jewish connection to Jerusalem is ancient and powerful.Judaism made it the capital of Israel 3000 years ago, and has remained steadfast to it.Jews pray in its direction;mention its name constantly in prayers;and close the Passover service with "Next year in Jerusale."The city is even recalled in the blessing at the end of a meal.The destruction of the Temple takes the form of a special day of mourning,as well as the smashing of a glass at a wedding ceremony.For Muslims,Jerusalem is not the place to which they pray.That city is not mentioned once in the Koran.Jersalem has never served as capital of a sovereign Muslim state,and never connected to events in Muhammad's life.
For over 40 years, the U.S. has warned Israel about its settlements.In 1976, Ambassador Scranton denounced the settlements as illegal before the Security Council. In 1978, the State Department's legal Counsel gave a legal opinion to Congress that the settlements were illegal. The first George Bush went mano a mano with P.M. Shamir over the settlements, including reducing loan guarantees by the amount spent on settlements. A freeze on settlements was was called for in 2003 as part of the roadmap. The Israeli government has now gratuitously insulted our duly elected vice-president. In a non-apology apology, it has said that it intends to follow the policy we oppose. Mr Foxman, this is more than a minor disagreement among friends. In fact I and a growing number of Americans don't consider Israel a friend. Friends don't stir up our citizens to demand money and oppoose policies that are in the U.S.'s best interest. We are tired of listening to the braying of you and your ilk.
So, they do this just before talks begin. Talks where territory negotiations will ensue. Isn't it obvious they are trying to get one more chip in the game? Now they can ask for something in return for this area, or even give something else up to keep this inroad. It's a very risky move, and I'm sure they knew better. Finally, we have an administration that doesn't treat the Israeli government with unconditional support. Can the US "motivate" Israel by threatening to cut some of the defense funding sent to them? What would be the repercussions of that?
The ADL is damaging their reputation and diluting their true cause. Their stated and noble mission is to "to stop the defamation of the Jewish people and to secure justice and fair treatment to all." However they've become more of a mouthpiece for the state of Israel - nothing more than a PR organization. Isreal defies this mission of this organization - this country is obviously not supportive of "fair treatment for all" given the so-called "Bloody Streets of January" in 2009.
How dare our main Funds' Supplier tell us what to do. The US should be grateful that we accept their funds and that is it! Standard protocol from the Israeli Foreign section of the Interior Ministry
Trans-Jordan (today's Jordan) captured the West bank and occupied E. Jerusalem and lost it when Israel captured it'd historical capital back in 1967. The Palestinian rightful homeland is in Jordan. They only made the spurious claim to Jerusalem in 1967 when the PLO was formed. How about giving California or Texas back to Mexico. If Israel had abided by every UN decision, it wouldn't exist today.
Haa haa haa! Keep the jokes coming Hill - because it ain't gonna happen. Why? Because you and all the people that occupy Capitol Hill are bought and paid for by Israel!
No wonder Israel thinks it can get away with doing whatever it wants and still be rewarded with US $$$. If it were any country other than Israel it would never be allowed to continue such arrogance. The only language Israel understands is bombs, and in the end that's what will probably happen -- somebody will drop a big bomb on Israel, and it will have nobody to blame but itself.
America vow??? Since when does America control Israeli decisions? Perhaps Obama doesn't know he is not emperor of the world. Obama is a dork and a disgrace to the United States. Go ahead and build - most of America thinks it is a good idea.
Finally a american political leader speaking the truth,palestine is israel 60 years ago,a terrorist state looking for its own place and space in this world,you have a short memory israel except when it comes to your own history of being oppressed
You delude yourself. Asserting something does not make it true, and mere assertion is not strength. Justice is strength. 21st-century Jews do not have a "God-given" or historical or legal or justicial or tribal or racial "right" to East Jerusalem or the West Bank or the Golan. No matter how many times you say it. Repeating it will not make it true. Only madmen think that.
"There is a genuine Palestinian people?" You'd better hope so, since a lot of Palestinians are Jewish.
Foxman has taken it on himself to move away from the ADL's original premis of fighting Anti Semitism wherever it raises it's head. To becoming a full-time supporter of Israel. It is more than likely to do with income. Foxman has decided to maximise his revenue streas.
If it wasn't 1600 new settlers homes it would be something else, just wait and see. Israel will never accept a PA state willingly no matter how much pressure is put upon it. It's just not in the cards!!!
As a long-time supporter and occasional resident of Israel, I couldn't have said it better. Well out. MV
through HONEST NEGOCIATIONS. When the talks starts, then everything that can cause derailment to it should be stopped. The Negociations should be PUBLIC , at least we will know WHO is the guilty party.
"First of all, the West Bank, the Golan, and especially Jerusalem belong to the Jewish people because the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob gave the Jewish people these lands, and number two- they won these lands in war and they should never, I repeat ever give them back." 1 Sorry, I can't stop laughing at the God gave me this land thing. HAHAHA. Too funny!!!! I just can't agree with the imaginary being telling me this land is mine concept ;). If thats the case then your house is mine cause God told me so!!! I can produce documents that God said this!!!!! ;) 2 I agree on the land belongs to them cause they won it in a war! Thats logical to me..
What planet does this delusional clown live in?
Funny how the USA is not a bully when you want our billions of dollars in aid and weapons per year. Funny how this "bully" USA let you off the hook for bombing us during the LaVon Affair. Or the U.S.S. liberty bombing.
So what exactly is the surprise and "insult" about? The settlement freeze did not involve Jerusalem at all, and Israel has always maintained that Jerusalem is indivisible and the temporary freeze does not apply there. This is well known among all the parties, why does the Israeli Gov't not remind all parties again and in no uncertain terms about what the facts are.
that the Jews and Christians were in Jerusalem long before the birth of the Muslim religion. Israel acts in fact as a cork. Without Israel we would have Islamic fundamentalists crossing over into Europe (as a matter of speech)and after we already know... Israel carries a burden...
...well, the last time she was here, she was so hoodwinked by Bibi and the hospitality, that she came out with her infamous "unprecedented" declaration, regarding the dubious settlement-freeze issue, and that probably takes some time to live down...
We knew since Netanyahu's first mandate that this was the plan. Your own statement just proved how Israel lied its way into doing what it pleases since 1997.
It would be interesting if the Native American Indians went to the United Nations and asked that their lands be given back to them. I wonder, what would the Liberals and most Americans say to that? Do not be hypocrites.
If Jews keep thinking this way, I'm afraid they'll find no inch of land to live in . . . Hope all people will think peacefully . . .Read history, nations go through a sin-wave curve, dear.
Sorry to say but Israel is losing friends and advocates fast and seems not to care. For years we've looked to Israel to live up to honesty, fairness and appropriate values. In comparison the Palestinians seems to be childlike and out of control. My friends...that's changing! Increasingly, I and I suspect other Americans are finding Israel to be a burden and a bully. I wonder how long we'll continue to endure embarrassment and the hassles of having an ally that is unpredictable, not dependable and arrogant. You can run your country as you want...but bear in mind that if you want support you have to behave appropriately. Frankly, I'm tired of your games and willing to cut the cord that binds us.
"stunned"!! - Are you living in a cave?? "harsh language was directed at a friend and ally of the United States,"? "distancing itself from Israel in order to placate the Palestinians" - What is our benefit to the US? What do we give them back in return of billions each year? The answer is NOTHING. They make our existence possible and we humiliate them. We are increasingly irrelevant in today's power equation. Our power in the US and Europe comes from money ONLY, not from love of the people to us as Jews and Israelis. Arabs and Muslims have more money than Jews and are slowly gaining power. The Arab and Muslim worlds are awakening. You better wake up yourself Mr. Foxman, you are digging our grave with your arrogance and stupidity. Stop shouting from the US and come live here instead and see for yourself the humiliation and bestial and brutal treatment with which we oppress the Palestinians. We sure learned from our Nazi oppressors. Shameful.
Really why Israel have to listen US? US can't even stop Iran to develop nuclear. The best thing for Israel, just ignore Obama and wait for the next US prez.
You think your foreign aid gives you the right to tell us what to do?? Keep it!! Israel is the new superpower!!
How do you think the Palestinians must feel?
I think you need to figure out where you're speaking from before you hurl insults at the Natives. Hopefully it's from either Israel or Gaza since anywhere else produces little replicas of regurgitated propaganda and conditioning. You're not conditioned are you Roo?
when the Jewish People's Council informed the world community that it had declared Sovereignty over the boundaries outlined in UNGA Res 181. The majority of the International Community of States recognized Israel on that basis, over riding any legal objections the Arab States had. http://wp.me/PDB7k-Y#the-big-lie Israel has never legally annexed ANY territory.
Hilary and Obozo just want a peace deal so they can say they did something and they don't care who they hurt in the process (Israel) This administration is the most ineffective one since Carter who allowed the Iranians to make a mockery of the US and now look at the mess with them now. Hilary is the Neville Chamberlain of our time.
As an Israeli and American citizen, I was deeply embarrassed by the announcement to build as VP Biden arrived. This is a man who has always been a strong supporter of Israel. Our Government should be deeply ashamed of this behavior and Netanyahu had better choose between Lieberman and the other maniacs or Tzippi and those committed to a 2-State Solution soon and form a new Government with people who will move our country forward, not backward into a shtetl mentality.
'Peoples' If the territory in the region isn't the Sovereign territory of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt or Israel, it's the territory on the non-state entity of Palestine. What the inhabitants wish to call themselves is their business.
Problem started with Obama's choice of Secty of State. Fence walking, and equivocation, with a cherished ally like Israel, not wise, nor statesman-like, and true indication he obviously did not make a very good choice.
Got to love it, he alraedy got an earful of the current public sentiment in the U.S. when he wrote an article this week in the Huffington Post (around 350 responses, among them around 8 positive ones!). If right-wing Israel continues its ways, then more to come, Abe, more to come...:)
Not Peter who muddles his facts. As #49 and #54 are well aware. Seems you need to take some 'punitive' steps on your former learning! Too much beer perhaps?
Sec. Clinton used the word "relationship" in her long overdue rebuke. Could she be referring to the so-called "special relationship" between the United States and the Jewish State? The US-Israel "special relationship" has been under great stress recently. US condemnation of the Goldstone Report and US justification of Israeli war crimes in Gaza strained the special relationship. The recent state-sponsored, Israeli death-squad activities in the West Bank and in Dubai have also strained the relationship. Now Israel announces 1,600 more "Jews Only" housing units, to be built on illegally annexed Arab land. Israel's stunning announcement was timed to garner domestic support in Israel and discourage the peace process while tweaking Uncle Sam's nose in a gesture of pure defiance. Could it be that the comedy team of Netanyahu and Lieberman overplayed their schtick? Will their orchestrated and deliberate insult to VP Biden and to Israel's greatest benefactor actually backfire?
This is not a policy difference among friends. This is a direct insult to the US and positions Israel on the edge of disaster. Lose America as a friend and you lose your country. You are not the most important people in the world. You are not powerful on your own. You will be engulfed by the masses of muslims if you don't make your peaceful intentions clear. Double talk won't get you out of this one.
Watch out. Bibi speaks peace, he does the opposite. It will become clear that the issue is not Israel's survival, but Israeli expansion. Fast talk only goes so far. Soon, Obama lose patience and the days of GHW Bush will return and frosty relations prevail. Unlike that time, most diaspora Jews will support the president.
I think it is the other way around: The US has finally gotten the clear message that Israel cares NADA about it's relationship with the US. The recent humiliations of congress and now the VP of the Country have only confirmed that Israel holds the US in complete contempt. Instead of playing victim (no one loves me!Whaaaa)looks like the US Congress must draw the consequences of the clear, albeit painful message from Israel.
you wont get any...UN made you and can make you dissapear...had nothing to do with gawd...he doesn't know you anyway
Jlem is not Arab.They should not be there.Clinton and the Americans don't know history.The Israeli govt needs to make history known because these arab women need to leave and be taught real history.As people learn history they will see that Jlem is not Arab and that there has never been an Arab presence in the holy land. The Islamists are putting out misinformation. The Arabs must leave the area especially those who think they can take the whole thing.
"We cannot remember an instance when such harsh language was directed at a friend and ally of the United States," said Abraham Foxman, director of the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), in a statement. Well, to turn the table, I doubt if the US government can remember an instance when a so-called "friend and ally", namely Israel, has insulted the vice president so openly, and has continued to work against US interests. Of course, it has been obvious for decades that the interests of the US and Israel are divergent, and this latest tussle just proves it.
Bravo Hillary and Obama. This is the first US administration in a very long time to turn down the traditional gift from Israel - a set of kneepads in a quick draw holster, embossed with the star of David. It will be interesting to see what happens when Israel gives its marching orders to the US Congress to shut down any American led peace effort. There are a lot of kneepads in Congress, and they aren't afraid to use them when Israel gives the order. Let the character assassination of Obama begin for daring to attempt to get the yoke of Israel off the neck of America.
According to the New York Times, Hillary was conveying Obama's anger over the Biden incident. Hopefully, Barack Hussein Obama's potential of objective thinking and behavior will finally materialize with respect to the Israel-PA conflict, because without REAL US pressure on Israel nothing will happen. The first doable act would be to pressure Israel to freeze building in (legally occupied) East Jerusalem, along with the rest of the West Bank. This is part of the Roadmap which Israel committed to. As it happens, Shas is now likely to agree because they were the direct cause of the affair. From here, peace talks should proceed with the US being aware of what some pressure can accomplish.
Arabs have oil, the rest of the world will ket, nay assist, in the killing of Jews. First, they are not allowed to build homes in the country given to them after half of them were slaughtered. Next, they are told to give land to those who say publicly they want to drive Jews into the sea and who honor Jew killers. But the need for oil is paramount.
so if ur theory is right then Arabs should have right that whenever they become much powerful to take away the whole of Israel they shouldnt give it back? you guys are such gang of morons and are a failure to civilized society...
I said it before, I'll keep saying: I used to support the Two-State Solution which is not workable any more. Israel likes this interferance between Palestinians and jews, let's do it and let's: dissolve the Palestinian authority and go for the Binational state. Let's Netenyahu achieve peace and keep the Palestinain Land. Abu Mazen should make Israel face the truth by hitting it by the DEMOGRAPHIC BOMB which scares Israel.Israel is for both Palestinan People and Jews.
And you're ill informed. The territories don't belong to Israel. Being ignorant of this fundamental truth renders you and yr arguments not worth hearing.
on all the land we "won" from the Indians! Get real here.The land in question was REGAINED during a war(67) that THEY started.The Holy sites thereon were inaccessible to all religions UNTIL Israel regained control. Now it is accessible to ALL and will remain so.Jerusalem is NOT negotiable.PERIOD. The announcement,although perhaps ill timed,establishes that fact. So Hillary go elswhere to solve the worlds problems.
Peter was referring to the 1956 Suez War, when Eisenhower forced the UK, France and Israel to get the hell out of Egypt.
Israeli governments have fallen over way less than this. Next: Tzipi.
So you say "....If you really believe that this flyspeck of a nation of five million Jews can exist in the ocean of hundreds of millions of Arabs in the long-term without US and EU support, you are delusional." I have some bad news for you. There is a God in Heaven and He is the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob and He will defend His people- the Jews. I suggest you read Ezekiel Chapter 38-39 to see what this "flyspeck" of a nation with their God will do to the Soviet and Arab armies after God finishes with them. They will be burying the dead for 7 months. God does not lie.
Some leftist liberals are really pathetic; they remind me of Esau in the Bible. They would give up blessings and inheritance for a bowl of porridge. While it might seem insulting it is the truth, peace at any cost just does not work, especially when you have already tried it in the past and have seen the results. You should know by now what your neighbors? intentions really are. Because of your unbelief and distrust in G-D you were dispersed throughout the nations, but The Almighty has brought you back. Take pride in defending what G-D has promised you.
Soon the bombs will be upon us. We'll suffer major destruction and loss of life. Yes, we will hit back and "win the war" but at what cost "victory"! Then comes the demographic nuclear bomb in an apartheid state. What a pathetic leadership that we have!!!
As the U.S. economy and its influence in the world continues to decline the leaders have shown that they to can do what history has shown leaders do. They have chosen a scape goat this time it is the Jews and the politically correct way to do that is to blame Israel. If the U.S. wants to create a better world it starts with bold choices such as demanding the Arabs and Muslims make peace with Israel without an exchange of land. It has to end the antisemitic propaganda that all problems stem from Jerusalem. The real road to peace will not happen with a Europe that cares more about oil than Israel and a U.S. that cares more about their economy and how many allies they have in the Middle East. It is not the quantity but the quality of friends that matter. As with the United Nations and the bias voting against Israel, this is because there is a shortage when it comes to decent leaders and countries in this world. I hope the U.S. doesn't follow their lead.
You are wrong number 16 or EGB. When you say "1) Neither E. Jerusalem nor the WB nor the Golan belong to Israel. 2) Stop making inane arguments about how history entitles Jews to disputed territories. Who cares? We all share the present and must deal with the reality around us at this moment. Join the community of nations as a player. Haven`t we known enough ghettos?" First of all, the West Bank, the Golan, and especially Jerusalem belong to the Jewish people because the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob gave the Jewish people these lands, and number two- they won these lands in war and they should never, I repeat ever give them back.
While the Obama administration has their lips fastened to the rear ends of the Arab nations they bully the tiny nation of Israel. Bullies are cowards. But that shouldn't surprise anyone as Obama bullies his own American citizens while he pats Hugo on the back. Barrack Hussein Obama has succeeded in pulling the wool over the eyes of his own subjects ... these are certainly perilous times and the worst is yet to come.
For all of those who believe that God does not consider the Jewish people His, I suggest you read God's Word - the Bible again. And again. God will never abandon His chosen people and yes they are His chosen people- He chose them to bring the Savior into this world and Salvation is from the Jews. Read John 4 verse 22. Also read Deuteronomy 7 starting at verse 6 and following. When the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob makes a promise, He always, I repeat always keeps it. Yes the Jews have disobeyed (haven't we all) but God still loves them (He even loves those who hate- the Arabs which are what Palestinians really are- and as someone has stated, the Palestinians have plenty of "homelands" in Jordan, Syria, Turkey, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Iran, and countless other places. Know this- Jesus Christ is coming soon and He will sit on the throne of David in Jerusalem ruling the entire world- I can hardly wait.
Right, the billions we give Israel ALL comes back to us in jobs and technology... Only a naive fool believes that nonsensical rubbish... now go take your medication Arnold, you're foaming at the mouth.
Jerusalem building WILL stop. The peace process will go on and now Israel will get much less. The Pals are in a near perfect position and are being shown as the victim. Israels days of bluffing the world are over. And to the idiot talking about the 200 nukes Israel has and using them as a threat, Let me just say that would cause Israels total destruction.
What about giving half of Washington DC? America is big enough; go on give away half your capital. What about Jordan (really Palestine) giving up half its capital: Amman? Why does everyone expect Israel to keep giving away land; there are already 22 moslem countries in the area and all of them undemocratic
LOL! How about a comic?
The israeli situation is puzzling to say the least. I am an extremely strong supporter of israel and its right to exist. If anyone truly supports Israel then the safety of israeli citizens will of course be a top priority, as is the necessary close ties with the United States. This move by the government is detrimental to both these priorities. Bringing up the settlement issue whilst Biden is there is foolish and disrespectful to our greatest ally (to say we can support ourselves with the United States in the geopolitical system is laughable and tragic). I have an idea over Jerusalem. MAKE IT AN AUTONOMOUS STATE LIKE THE VATICAN. A government consisting of the three major religions and not part of Israel or Palestine. It is the religious capital to the Jews, Muslims and Christians. "I felt sorry for myself because I had no shoes -- until I met a man who had no feet"
Foxman: "One can only wonder how far the U.S. is prepared to go in distancing itself from Israel in order to placate the Palestinians in the hope they see it is in their interest to return to the negotiating table," So what we have here is ol' Abe attempting this spin: Yishai waddles up to Joe Biden and dumps a Big Ol' Turd on that dude's head, and it is the **PALESTINIANS** fault that the USA takes offense at that insult to a Very Very VIP. Are you for real, Abe????? Zionism really has taken leave of its senses, hasn't it?
And now, the end is near... I did it my way.
The Palestinians aren't asking for half of their land back, just 22% of it. get your facts straight.
U.S. promises to halt Israeli building in East Jerusalem = U.S. promises to get rid of Netanyahu government
If the Israeli's won't try to make peace, bring our tax dollars back home and stop defending them. If Israel wants to do it's own thing, they can do it by their self. Let g_d protect them, if they believe they are in the right. They don't need our help anymore.
I am a lifelong supporter of Israel. I haven't the slightest illusions about the violent mendaciousness of the Palestinian leadership (and most of the population) and the Arab states generally. I wouldn't trust either Obama or Clinton further than I could throw them. Europe and the US are becoming wracked by mindless, intolerant, ill-informed anti-Semitism where such sentiments were once unthinkable. But when the ADL asks how far the US will go in distancing itself from Israel, get used to it, the answer is MUCH FURTHER - humiliating even a bad VP is stupid, arrogant and plays into the hands of Israel's growing enemies among people who were once rational and sympathetic! If Israel doesn't care about that it is a very bad move...
So the lefties at the ADL have finally realized that the people they put into power are anti-semites (not withstanding that their childen may actually marry Jews). Their surprise is disengenuous. They caused this and Foxman and his ilk should be embarrassed by their own stupidity. As for Clinton, this is nothing new. Remember she helped fund the PLO when she was at the Ford Foundaion, while the PLO was still lsited as a terrorist organization. The murder of Jewish children is not considered a problem for her and her politics.
Israel has the full authority from the ONE who really matters. Any attempt to stop Israel will be met with the ultimate wrath greater than any earthly weapons.
Well, since the Obama "reception" of Netanyahu with such disdain that was deeply embarassing to a supposed Sovereign State, a Friend of USA; in contrast with the deep BOW of Obama upon the meeting with the Saudi King, it was just a question of time for Israel to regain its dignity by giving TIT for TAT. The occasion is been used by Obama to wink wink Arab-Muslim world that the current US administration is not favouring Israel and could not be pushed by the Pro Israel population. However, Clinton's gesture has as much weight to give the President any room to change the Congress antipathy it feels towards Obama's policies. She knows that, and she plays her own agenda, which is local, which is the mi-term election in New York State where all the signs point out to a disastrous defeat. Europe in an economic morass, the Euro going down, USA the mortgage scandals are just now been spoken about with the new Lehman's discovery, plus the non-confidence in the American chiefs of industry,BOGUS
Thats the best thing ive heard yet.
Secretary Clinton's description of the announcement as "insulting" is, if anything, too mild. The announcement during Vice President Biden's visit suggests that Israel seems to have contempt towards the United States. It is as if they feel so in control of our relationship that, no matter what they do, the United States must smile and pretend to ignore it. The sad reality is that, so long as the US lets Israel define its regional policy, we may deserve that contempt.
The people of the United States are friends and supporters of Israel. The Obama administration is actually an enemy of Israel and the United States. If we are embarrassed by anything it is Obama.
surely this has nothing to do with defamatian
We don't but the US clearly does. Israel IS THE 51ST STATE! So we should celebrate July 4 and NOT 20th April
Ignore Clinton and she'll go away.
First we see Netanyahu and Bidden almost have a spontaneous orgasm of commitment together. Then the Israelis claim it's all their's from Jerusalem right up to the Dead Sea and even more. And now the whole world is crazy with rage for and gainst. What the heck is happening here? Who started first? What now? Iran is a sidekick, until proven otherwise.
Start a fight, you should be prepared for the consequences. Arabs and Muslims are sore losers. They are not big enough people to admit they lost. 60+ years of PR later, the Jews are the bad guys. What a joke.
None of the quyartet would consider to offer one inch of land to an ennemy, but they want Israel to part with half their country and with their capital, Hillary's confusion is the hand of God or Allah,Nobody has the right to barter away parts of the promised land, not even the Jews themselves and not Bibi either. The Pals with all their nagging will not have one inch of the Holy land, They better go elsewhere.That should be the task of the quartet.
They're always talking, nothing has been accomplished, so, settlements will continue until a final agreement is reached
We're all tired of this. Even your friends. Sit down with the Palestinians and work this out. Now. Stop being a bunch of babies! Cede their land back to them; allow them to establish a state on it; and get the United Nations to pay these people some compensation for the losses cause to them by the United Nations when the UN took their property and gave it to the Jews, (who had been displaced, murdered and tortured by nazis), as a refuge and a homeland. The failure to do right by the Palestinians has left an open sore that festers to this day, the result of which is that no one in the region, you included, truly lives in peace. You know what you get when you take someone's property for no compensation? 60 years of war, that's what!
It’s like kabuki theater: both the actors and the audience know the plot, but pretend to be surprised. Israel's policy is simple: de facto annexation of the West Bank. The two-state solution means the Palestinians can elect their own dog catchers in 15% of what used to be Palestine. If they want to call that a state, they can also issue some postage stamps and have the occasional parade. The Palestinian police force will exist to suppress protests against the apartheid regime. Can Clinton grow the gonads (and that is a non-sexist term as it includes ovaries) sufficient to tell the truth? There will never be a genuine Palestinian state, unless it is located in Antarctica.
it is this type of arrogance that led Netanyahoo to permit the announcement and cause the resultant debacle. Powers of the Quartet and the US: 1, Restrict israeli trade with the EU. 2. Cut off or restrict US welfare. 3. Refuse to veto a UNSC resolution calling for Israel to completely stop settlement activity - failure to comply: sanctions. 4. Restrict or stop the supply of spare or replacement parts and thereby immobilize much of the IDF. And on and on... If you really believe that this flyspeck of a nation of five million Jews can exist in the ocean of hundreds of millions of Arabs in the long-term without US and EU support, you are delusional.
You Israeli firsters, I would guess are duals. If not, at the least, you love Israel more than you do the US. In as much as Israel has become a danger to and an enemy of the US, you must make a choice. If Israel, go there please. You and the other "young Israelis" are not thankful in the least for what American has given Israel. Thus America should now cut off all aid/comfort/cover and assistance of any kind. To read your writing it seems that you do not need it anyway. The world is reading and will not be patient this time.
Reminds me of how the Southerners reacted to Yankee abolitionists before the Civil War. Why those interfering northern abolitionists were just plain bullies interfering with Southern rights and liberties, and all you had to do was stand up to to them. Steven, you need to turn your head a little and look at the big world out there. It includes respect for Palastinains and a two state solution. Those 1600 units are contrary to a two state solution. The northern abolitionists were right, and so is the Quartet on this one. If you want to do something useful, ask Haaretz why it had nothing on the recent dedication of a square, I think in Nablus, to a terrorist who killed 38 Israelis in 1978. Ask why Biden didn't make statements about that and why the Quartet didn't mention that. Condemning Palastinian glorification of killers is every bit as important as stopping another 1600 unit project in East Jerusalem. Get with the program of peace and a two state solution. It can be done.
From disappointing and bemoaning to snubbing and rebuking and condemning. A palestinian dream come true I would think although admittedly they themselves are far from perfect. Sooo what happens now? Any of this stuff going to be translated into action? And in what form? Baffles me. Maybe those much more expert then I in such matters can enlighten.
With all due respect Mrs Clinton and the Quartet can kiss Israel in the ... !
Jack, Sure Isreal has the right to keep the territories conquered in war. But has also the duty to give citizenship and equality to the inhabitants.
I'm praying that Bibi will take the bull by the horns on this one, and put the Americans right in their place: tell them that Israel doesn't care for any of America's foreign aid, or support in terms of helping provide weaponry or security. Tell them to get lost, and let's see Israel go it completely alone. That's what Likud wants, right, for the Americans to leave Israel alone and complete its colonization of the territories?
we people dont owe you jack and your g-d does not exist....nothing is yours
Eisenhower got Israel to leave Sinai? Oh, dear. I thought he got Germany to leave France. Do you mean Carter by any chance? Eisenhower had been dead for 10 years when Israel-Egypt treaty was made.
It seems every other day there are suicide bombers killing their own civilians. In markets, in governmenr buildings, in Mosques. Today alone another 2 siucide bombers kill at least another 47 people. Where is the outrage. NO...not important. We have to focus only on the Jew. Once we get rid of them the whole world will be the garden of Eden. I will not call it anti-Semitism...you are so shocked if we call you anti-semites. I'll call you warriors for Christianity. Yea ...like the modern day Crusaders. Just like in the past when you got pissed of that the Moslems were overtaking the holy land. You put the Crusaders together and along the way to Jerusalem they honed their skills by killing Jews. Why ??? Because they killed Jesus. The Romans killed Jesus....get over it.
thrown out of...destined to wander the earth till you savior calls to you...and this time you better not even think about murdering him
US and Eu can do it in days if they want, they seem content to let this go on, talks I think a smoke screen, they reply with condemnation as they have done before, the people of the world want to see this over with, a 2 state solution seems fair to me. So can you imagine what Palestine will look like 10 years from now?.
All of this pressure is the consequence of Israel's weakness in asserting its rights. Israel should have said in the very beginning that Jerusalem will remain the united capital of Israel, that it will not be the capital of any Arab state, that Israel will take orders from no one regarding its rights in its own capital, and that there will be no negotiations with the Arabs at all as long as they insist that Jerusalem must be theirs. If Israel had asserted itself this way from the beginning, it would not be experiencing all this pressure now.
you can leave but never come back....how long till it emptied out completely?...think we wont?
If you bozos has the slightest bit of brainpower you would know how trade and economics work. The tax dollars given to Israel come back to you in jobs from science to farming. And what about the billions of tax dollars you give to Egypt, Jordan, and Lebanon. You know what they do with that...they buy USA flags from China...because they are cheaper in China...then they pour gasoline on them and burn them. You bozos make me sick...you have no idea what happens in the world...all you do is whine about your tax dollars.
you do not own e.j'lem no matter what you say or think....the west created zio land and we can make you dissapear...it was a really bad idea obviously
HRC: "Did you mean to embarrass our Vice President?" Bibi: "Yes." HRC: "Well, okay. Thanks." (*click*)
I forgot to mention. Archeological finds are proving time after time of the Hebrew/Jewish claim to Jerusalem and all other parts of Israel. That is a claim they have. You USA bozos have nada claim to the land. Put that in your "peace pipe" and choke on it.
the same and seige and snction on you since you like them so much
The only big threat to Israel now is Iranian nukes. That's it, and that's Bibi's big concern. Other arab nations might get nukes someday, but Iran is the only one that's started. Israel would be far better off if the whole middle east was a nuclear-free zone, than if Israel has nukes and anybody else does too. So offer USA the chance to bargain with Iran. Israel gives up nukes if the whole middle east and Iran becomes nuclear-free zone with stringent inspections. Iran gets something -- no Israel nukes. Israel gets more -- no arab nukes. USA gets something -- No Iranian nukes, and USA enforces treaty. (Note USA can *really* enforce treaty, can proclaim that if any middle east nation nukes anybody and USA finds out, USA nukes them in proportion. If anybody nukes a middle east nation and USA finds out who did it, USA nukes them.) Make Israel look good. Cut expensive radioactive-polluting useless military program. And if Iran won't deal, then Israel gets free diplomatic victory.
It’s like kabuki theater: both the actors and the audience know the plot, but pretend to be surprised. Israel's policy is simple: de facto annexation of the West Bank. The two-state solution means the Palestinians can elect their own dog catchers in 15% of what used to be Palestine. If they want to call that a state, they can also issue some postage stamps and have the occasional parade. The Palestinian police force will exist to suppress protests against the apartheid regime. Can Clinton grow the gonads (and that is a non-sexist term as it includes ovaries) to tell the truth? There will never be a genuine Palestinian state, unless it is located in Antarctica.
I don't understand the U.S. sometimes. I live in it and I love it, but they make some really stupid choices like saying israel can't build in their own land? This is a very sad day for the U.S. Americans forget that land has been lost and gained in war and have we ever given any land back to Mexico or given back land to the native Americans...of course not. I wonder how many Billions have been wasted in this "Palestinian" venture, not worth it at all. Go Israel, screw the U.S. you are your own country, no one has the right to tell you where to build your homes, reclaim your birthright israel.
Israel is run by a gang of morons.
... in the universe, what lies above the largest pools of oil on Earth are a people of tribal and primitive mindset. The more advanced cultures, by using their own standards of civilization, have allowed themselves to be held captive to the ensuing barbarism, in exchange for travel via the internal combustion engine. So helpless we are to risk offending the petrol tribes, who might respond by raising the price of their black gold, we act out their insane vanities, and even the world's most powerful leader bows before them. Are they offended by Jews in their midsts? The West falls over each other to beat on tiny Israel to a pulp, to keep their Fords and Toyotas purring. The tribes traded in their camels long ago for BMWs and Mercedes, but still amputate the hands of bread thieves, and stone the rape victims. Listen to Hillary toe the Muslim line. A crazy twist of fate, that petrol puddle. Good night from Beer City.
and reminds Israel who it owes its existence too. Israel is nothing but trouble for America and we'd be best served by ending this one sided relationship in which the US tax payer gets screwed and hated world wide, while Israel gets billions of our dollars.
This weak sister will not call a Turkish genocide by the g-word. And suggests that the PA and Israel are "equal" PA is a criminal organization. And 2-States is deader than Sharon's brain
The clown administration will go on TV and say bad things against Israel. Then you'll really be in trouble.
2-states is dead. Killed by incitement. They have no other ideas. So they beat a dead horse. Israel has a plan no matter what the Arabs do..its called Build Israel. Anyone that thinks Judea can be ceded for an Arab handshake is plain delusional. Civil war over expelling Jews from their Land is a fact because the young Jews know the Land is theirs.
"She made clear that the Israeli government needed to demonstrate not just through words but through specific actions that they are committed to this relationship and to the peace process" But of course they are not committed to any peace process. Why should they be? Netanyahu campaigned on a platform of no peace process. He's been pretty good at tolerating US peace efforts, and going through the motions, but why would anybody expect him to make any kind of sacrifice?
1) Neither E. Jerusalem nor the WB nor the Golan belong to Israel. 2) Stop making inane arguments about how history entitles Jews to disputed territories. Who cares? We all share the present and must deal with the reality around us at this moment. Join the community of nations as a player. Haven't we known enough ghettos?
claims that only force will make Israel come to an agreement on a peace settlement.
No justice will come from Netanyahu. Only the Quartet can assure Palestine is treated fairly.
Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. The capital of the "Palestinian" state to the east is Amman. The capital of the "Palestinian" state to the north is Beirut. The capital of the "Palestinian" state to the southwest is Gaza. There are already three "Palestinian" states. Jerusalem is the capital of Israel.
and back warnings with action.Most Americans are sick and tired of the tail waging the dog. Israel is getting away with murder. I urge the Obama administration, whom my family voted for, to assert himself and make sure that those poor Palestinians have a country that they can call it home. President Obama, we have not heard from you yet.President Eisenhower got Israel to leave Sinai why cant you get them to leave E-Jerusalem and the Westbank?
Palestinians if the actions have no bearing than why have a period? Unless deputy fm is correct and more concessions are trying to be pulled by pals from israel
Hillary belongs in Arkansas not in the State Department, as she clearly has not seen a Map of Jerusalem as it is consisted today not in 1949. Jews live and own Jerusalem, Hillary owns with Bill a plot in NY and some place they got on the cheap in Arkansas.
Unbelievable... so sad that Israel is not serious at all about peace with the Palestinians. So much misery ahead if Israel continues to mock the Palestinians and continues on with business as usual. Why would they do something like that just before peace talks? Mark S.
Ignore these group of hypocrites. Russia keeps a piece of Germany and Japan after winning the war. USA keeps a part of Mexico after winning the war. And they have guts to tell Israel to return part of their capital and historical Jewish land to arabs who were there only because the Jews made this land great? Be firm. Unfortunately Bibi seems to not have guts to stand up to the enemies.
so what! Israel has to do what is in its best interest (within reason). unlike its neighbors it does not torture or kill in the process. and the 'Quartet' should no throw 'stones', as well.
Israel should stand up to those trying to bully her. She is not a vassal of the U.S. and certainly does not owe any explanation to the Europeans. Israel never asked anyone for permission to build Ramat Eshkol, Ramot, French Hill or Neve Yaakov and she shouldn't start now. Stand up to these bullies and they will back down like they always do.
Israel's really in the spotlight now. Israel is the new pariah state, thanks Netanyahu for stealing that title away from Iran.
1 for each country and then some.
Expanding Israeli settlements in E. Jerusalem is nothing short of state-sponsored terrorism. Reassuring to see that the Quartet condemns it.
The Jews are no longer the chosen people of any God. Time to get with the program.