Report: Sweden won't probe paper over IDF organ harvesting article

Göran Rosenberg is one of the best jewish writers I ever read from. Its sad that they in Israel paint him out to be the bad guy. Of course to live in Israel is what I like to call; is to live outside the worldmedia. Now do you unlike him because he wrotes with dignity and honor (even when it goes against what he stands for) or do you just hate everyone that actually tries to critizese the state of Israel. Enough already...

or maybe try Hebrew, I'm fluent in it. Otherwise your post sounds pretty ..err... maybe 'Zionist' would be the word?

...Sweden has freedom of the press, unlike Israel and its incessant censorship. And you really should learn why Israel became a pariah state in the transplant world. You might read up on Israeli organ brokers, and how even though it was illegal up until last year, being illegal now has not really changed anything. The article in question was nothing but a tabloid story, but with Israel's bone-headed reaction to it, many in the world did a little research and came across pieces such as the very detailed expose in the Christian Science Monitor a few years ago that blew the lid off of Israeli organ brokering as well as others.

...and the damage you are doing to Israel is enormous. Keep up the good work! No anti-Semite could do a better job than you at encouraging the world to completely turn its back on Israel.

...slowly and methodically people like you are turning the world away from Israel. Israel will not survive the way it is currently constituted no matter how much you wish it were so.

So sad, so sad.Sweden used to be admired by us in the past , now it is reviled.Whom are they working for? What will they gain from becoming anti- Semitic liars?

Maybe if the Swedish government would have had an own paper in which this gutter vice blood libel was published, one could say that Sweden did throw a blood libel in the world. In Sweden the government does not control the press. Gutter journalism, smear, slander and lies do exist in the media (as in every country the Swedes have their tabloids too). It is called freedom of information. Why does Haaretz or an Israeli institution (is there not a Swedish Jewish watchdog NGO) not carry out a poll in Sweden to find out what the Swedes actually think of this article and Aftonbladet? Then one could say with some more accuracy: the Swedes are okay or the Swedes are not okay and anti-Semitic, depending on the outcome of the poll. To be honest, without more knowledge it is pathetic to condemn a whole country and it's population for a gutter journalism article in an evening tabloid.

and the plans for further massacres are on the drawing board. The savagery of the Europeans is without boundaries....a genetically embedded disease that has gone on for thousands of years.

Guess the embassy of which country in Israel are getting more applications for citizenship on the grounds of repatriation laws - Sweden or Germany? Hope that along with the other Jews you're alive and well in the US, too (or was it Canada where you chose to escape "sharia" when you left Moscow with Israeli visa back in Soviet times?).

early evening walk anal rly jogging trip. I s vry natural to pee on fungus. The only species deserving to piss on. Did you get the meaning of this messg? If you have any part of brain left uninfected by the commonus atismtus you will get the message, zchmogus

Buying dead peoples organs is kosher? It is morally unethical in the west to do so. That must be where some of the misunderstanding is. This leads to organ theft and trafficing.

It would be appropriate to air all the details surrounding the story, especially those covered by Haaretz years ago, because, the more we find them on the net, it simply looks like denial and cover-up. Organs for money-quote: Abu Kabir head only reprimanded for illegal organ removal 26/09/2005 http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=629017 The ministry's findings, published in April 2001, were severe: The institute, it said, had not only removed organs from bodies without the families' consent; it had also performed autopsies that violated the terms of court orders and deceived both the families and the ministry. The removed organs and tissue, it found, were generally sold to research institutes and hospitals for research purposes, with the money being used to defray the costs of the autopsies.

Did you want me to answer something or you feel already relieved?

Sabra, Many of your points to me are simply formulated having a wrong premise in head, and thus, to some another person who might accept it because of intellectual or political convenience. This premise is constructing all the arguments along the opposition of a 'good guy' and a 'baddie'. It belongs to the idiolects like Hasbara or Hamas PR. The GC & HR define and delimits the objective, setting the opposition both parts (and apparently, you too) choose to ignore: either you are within the rules or outside (before you question those, I can stop you by reminding that invalidating them you morally invalidate any claim of similar harm done to you e.g genocide etc.). This opposition by no means implies that the conformity with these rules tantamount to a 'lil clean war'. About half of IDF casualties were hit by the friendly fire. The rules imply that you cannot raze down people with white flag. Effective or neutralized, Goldstone report is a litmus test of abiding to law.

against Jewish people. Still, Jewish people are alive and well and Europe is leading to extinction - well deserved fate to follow Sharia.

can write Sweden as SWEEDEN in an offensive style and nobody will adress you harming you.. Senseless.

why ,not to eat palestinian organs ;instead of to sell it we are hungry

The nation of Israel will outlast your cancerous hatred.

Slander is a serious crime. Freedom of speech is a right. When used without scruples it can create blood libels like this one and bring mass murder like in the days of the Crusades, the Pogroms and the Holocaust. I can't believe Swedish judges do not see this. Where is the limit?

conclussions by individuals like Goldston or Luis Arbour as a matter of fact cannot and should not be dismissed as PR with no so subtle inferc as a negative PR.Tris a group oidvdas such as Ex Judge Goldston & ex Supreme Court Judge Arbour omade it it a practise to bush Israel no matter what.It was on the pages which respected historians and politicians like Shimon Peres who pointed out that any fact finding committee luanched by UN issues reports blaming Israel for most heinous crimes against humanity and war crimes totaly ignoring the crimes and provocations by Israels enemies like Hezbollah and Hamas.The pattern of one sided reports is clear.Hamas launched close to 10,000 missiles and rockets at Israely towns and kibutzim.That is only mentioned in passing in Goldstones report.Likewise Hezbollah luanched close to 5,000 rockets against Haifa, Nahariya,Tveria,openly crowing about it and claiming some sort of victories both moral and military.Its not in UN Reports.UN on Arab payroll!

....then I am (at least) 50 % Jewish...:)

Why am not surprised at your very predictable, idiotic statements? If a Jew said the sky is blue, I'm sure you would object vehemently. By the way Mr Chard, I am 50% Arab.

There is no end to the possible crimes committed by Israel and hamas and other interlopers. Reading the various laws make it near imp[ossible not to run afoul. Its what you do to not run afoul that counts. HR, GC etc aLL WANT CLEANLY FOUGHT WARS. wHAT ABOUT tERROR GROUPS THAT DONT WANT TO FIGHT A CLEAN LITTLE WAR. nO ACOUNTABILITY AND DOUBTFUL gOLDSTONE WILL EVER GET HAMAS ACCOUNTABLE..WONT HAPPEN As for IDf running afoul of these laws. Well it is either kill the enemy or be killed, and frankly i prefer the enemy to sacrifice hios life for his country. When the enemy hides amongts women and children and schools etc, then they alone bear responsibility to all tjhose who died. But Hamas is not respnsible now is it?

palis ans hamas and gazans who now enetertain fighting against ISrael may think twicew before pulling the trigger, as we know those big IDF bad boys will grab theor organs, and sell them to the highest bidder, then the poor palis wont be able to get to heaven because parts will be miossing. That should put the fear of Allah into these terrorists

There is an absolute lack of clarity of thought when it comes to those that persist in attacking the rebirth of the ancient state of Israel in that none of these people condemn the racist Hamas organization (which still vow to destroy the state of Israel and liberate Palestine (the name given by the holy land by the Romans) from the Jews. None of these people every mention the thousands of crude missiles fired indiscriminately into Israel, the suicide bombers targering civilians or thier silly little rascist childen's shows that mock our own Mickey Mouse into an Arab terrorist.

...no matter how many times you claim that bottles rockets were the cause, everyone who paid attention knows it was Israel that planned the War on Gaza prior to even entering the ceasefire, it was Israel collectively punishing the civilians prior to, during, and now after the War on Gaza; that was the REAL motive. State sponsored terrorism on a captive people so Israel could elicit a desired political result. The Goldstone Report mentions "collective punishment" eighteen times! I personally will remind every Congressman and Senator and the White House of these facts until I die or until Israel is finally made to face its crimes. And there are thousands of others just like myself who will work hard to make sure Israel can never terrorize the Palestinians in this way again: with impunity. If Israel won't follow international law, why should anyone else in the Middle East?

... just like the USA, for it has no "Holocaust denial" law. Sweden is also very lucky, just like the USA, for it has proper law and enforcement against blood libel. You Cipora, are very lucky since when cornered in this talkback by the question what has Holocaust has to do with the Aftonbladet case or how Swedish WWII episodes account for the Swedish editor being a "Nazi", you can silently disappear. Luckily for many others, too.

"Clarity of thoughts is a prerequisite to rational analysis". CH If it's not the lack of this clarity then perhaps it is the fact that you may have not followed Swiss (Dino)' argument in the last articles, that makes you develop an irrational analysis. He was referring mostly to the evaluation of the HR aspect in Goldstone's report on the LC, and you are referring to Israeli rationale of the operation. Regardless this rationale, the operation could, but did not abstain from breaching number of GC & HR regulations pertaining to conduct of war. Moreover, a massive PR campaign turned these facts into "nothing wrong", as Netanyahu, Merkel and Ian Kelly later discarded it without countering a single statement of it. If I gather it right, Swiss' idea is the equity of regard to, and the effect of the two legal evaluations.

...rational analysis.You obviously do not understnd or simply try to pull wool over epoples eyes with thga of protraying Isrel as the perenial devil state. Here is a simple fact.Cast Lead aidu to stop the rapidly increasing firn oQassams and Katyusha rockets ito the expanded radius of Southern Israeli towns and villages. 10,000 such firingw cried out by Hamas reahn frequency of 80 per day and inching towards the Industrial heartland of Israel.Warnings by Israel were ignored by Hamas who on the directives of their financial sponsors pushed Hamas into provocative stand."Cast Lead" operation put an end to Qassams.He got carried away in believing Nesrallah that Hezbollah defeatd IDF.Both Hezbollah and Hamas attacks stopped.Cast Lead achieved its objective as did Lebanon War II. The Blood Libel by the Swedish papers alleges ta IDF killed Palestinians to remove organs for transplant in 1992,Baseless lie,This is in same cathegory as the lie by Tsar Ochrana of Blood used for Matzo by Jews!

"Aftonbladet". Yes,my good Lincoln ,the tabloid accused a NY rabbi of being part of a net of Jewish "organ harvesters" . It wasn't only about Israel ,mind you. Your attacks on Lieberman and false assurances of Swedish FO "trying to mediate" are attempts at obfuscating your own participation in an organ harvesting net ,Lincoln. Come clear ,Lincoln,admit and face the consequences.

The Swedish government was quick to blame the Danish Mohamed cartoons,remember that? Wasn't that about the freedom of press?

the world considers holocaust denial worse than a blood libel. hence, sweeden gets off without a whisper of criticism.

....wasn't either. If "Cast Lead" was wrong, the "blood libel" article was too.... That will be the ("moral") standard we will have to apply, as long as the Israeli political establishment/public remains in a state of denial....

condemn blood libels against the Jewish people, one of which was initiated through the use of "free speech" in Sweden recently? Refusing to condemn such acts is more telling about the Swedish government and its people than the blood libel itself...

It is important for worldwide Jewry to not let such classic antisemitic be ignored or whitewashed...

and then try to ward off criticism with the old "free speech" defence and o.k., here comes the criticism. Israel's judicial system would be all over someone who engaged in that activity, not only because it is evil and intrinsically repugnant but because the politics of that crime would be extraordinarily dmagaging to Israelies and Jews. The criticism of the journalist and newspaper have never been that it is beyond bounds to run a story on organ theft but that there appears to be no reliable corroboration of the story. In short it doesn't meet journalistic standards. That being so, why was the story run????? One can reasonably speculate as a matter of free speech, right.

If this is enough to prove that the Jews/IDF/Israel did it number 2 then we can indeed see you are open to the blood libels which in the end were responsable for so many Jewish deads. This article was totally based on hear say and nonsense. The paper was not able to even come up with any real proof and is to lazy to try to find something themselves. So.... do we trust therefor the source (Palestinians who claim we hand out radio active candies in Gaza) or do we condemn the Jews as by definition even based on rumours and hear say as they must be guilty? Or as would be in a normal situation between Swedes themselves lets first investigate and then publish the facts not rumours.

... law profession! Sweden's judicial system will wink at this blatant and brutal attack against the IDF's morals touting their pompous freedom of the press while they'll frown at and chastise any of their government representatives who dare to publicly condemn the inflamatory article.

Having now read the article in question, it is clear that it is rather dubious journalism. The journalist does not explicitly link the arrests in New Jersey to the killing of Palestinians, but the inference seems clear. As for anti-semitism, I believe it falls short. If he wanted to explore Israel's transplant policies, he should have done that. But the article is merely tabloid. You could easily have stuck in any other nation's army and a national minority, and it would read the same. That is what sells tabloids, but it is not journalism. Ultimately, by giving this article so much attention, I believe the Foreign Ministry of Israel risks falling in the mud.

A sleazy tabloid publishes an asinine article based upon old news. And Sweden is promptly beat over the head by Israel's racist Foreign Minister for that fact beyond it's control. Sweden offered to mediate, and Israel refused. The smears and slander of Lieberman continued, no different than the blood libel slime of the tabloid. And so what SHOULD Sweden do? Nothing is all it can do because it has nothing to defend having nothing to do with the original tabloid slime; while nothing it did to help would be accepted by the racist Foreign Minister. Tabloid journalists are slime. Avigdor Liberman is the sort of man who has made his career appealing to the same emotions and mentality as the tabloid journalist appeases. Sweden is wise to let it go. The tabloid, Avigdor Liberman, the low life filth of the world must be let to swirl down their sewer by themselves. Decent people don't entertain either.

Organ trading can only take place if organs are in short supply. Why are organs in such demand in Israel?

The story never said that organs were harvested, only that the family of the dead Palestinian thought that was the explanation for the slice and stitches. Nobody ever opened him up and inventoried his body parts. Did the author intend that people would take it the way they did? Yes. The wording was calibrated carefully to do that. Clever, but non-professional.

Do not give so much attention to some pro-Arab radicals in Sweden. We showed our disgust now lets move on, nothing to see here.

Israel should have been expected to do an investigation on behalf of those Palestinians who have made the accusations. Until that is done, Israel will be seen to have plundered young Palestinian bodies for their organs. When will we see Israel address this accusation and prove itself innocent if that is the case? Accusations of blood libel crap is just covering up the lack of investigation.

Even the Swede paper stated unequivocally that they never had any proof of any wrong doing and that further, they never attempted to get any. That said, this is simply another Aryan blood libel orchestrated in an effort to ingratiate the Swedes to their new Muslim rulers.

Now that the attempt to execute the messenger has failed, I wonder who is going to investigate the allegations, if anyone.

it is the state of Israel that should sue the Swedish newspaper for liable!

I have not looked at the article, though will certainly look at it today. Beyond that, however, I believe that the world, when criticizing issues involving Israelis, be precise in terminology. Citing responsibility of "Jews" or "Israelis" for anything is absurd, for it presupposes that there is some monolithic group that agrees on everything. If there is an accusation about segments of the IDF, then the conversation should be there, not on Israel, Jews, or anti-semitism. The outlandishness of the charges at first glance, however, makes me suspect that anti-Semitism was not a motivating factor in the writing to the article.

even if the jews do it

And naturally, expect no acquaintance with the English translations of the article circulating click-away.

and Dror Felberg. The latter one ,author of a "sculpture" glorifying female pal suicide bomber has tried to torpedo Swedish TV discussion on the article " It's not antisemitism ,I have a 100 relatives killed during the WW2 so I know !" was he screaming answering the moderator who had asked why the mention of an American rabbi "harvesting organs" was removed from the English translation of the "Aftonbladet's article.The question was awkward to the "A"'sditor ,afraid to admit his paper'd face huge problems in America should the accusations be made.So Felberg's outburst was God sent to him. Göran Rosenberg constantly attacking Israel in his articles and on TV was disclosed to have participated in a mission to check the Ben Gurion Airport for possibility of performing a terror action by the PFLP ,his taskmasters in the 70ies and 80ies ,as disclosed in a book published a few weeks ago. The antisemitism inherent in the Swedish political life is made easier by turncoats like those two.

finally why should we care ? this has been going on for ages, and still we survived. lets face our real problems and ignore all those who think they can harm us. we have proven that we are much better than all our enemies .