Report: Church abuse claims are 'Zionist attack', bishop says

It is good that all the garbage is out in the open. Where there are people there is evil, be it the church, government, public schools, your dentist office, the boy scouts, etc. Only hypocrites blow their trumpets too loudly. One old retired clergy man does not make the catholic church. 20 Years from now, nobody will be talking about this anymore and the church is still expanding by 18 million people worldwide.

Yes, The New York Times has given considerable attention to the Catholic clergy issue. But anyone who thinks the paper is Zionist is clueless. Right after the Brits closed Palestine to Jewish immigration, May 1939, the paper said Palestine could not hold Jewish refugees from Europe. Few weeks later, as the St. Louis was sent back to Europe with more than 800 Jwewish refugees, NYT said the days of "mass migration" to the US were over.

Bishop Giacomo Babini's remarks make me ashamed of being a Catholic. I wonder when they are going to admonish him?

has been there for 2,000 years. It will be there long after the 15th crusade is over. I am ready to bet all my money.

I am sorry to say that there is not simply a Catholic body that retains Jewish stereotypes of Zionists but that because of left wing intellectuals and Marxists like Noam Chomsy, Judith Light, the people of J street and the President of the USA, Barrack Obama, it may be more difficult to simply limit the criticism to Catholicism or it's reprentative who may be accepting indoctrination by "Jewish" secularists. I certainly have no proof such is fact but it is not hard to imagine on this side of the "pond".

what an idiotic idea! The Jews forced the priests to abuse children? But the more things dont make sense, the more the lies will be believed. I give up!

how can a bishop say that a group of people are god killers.. and a billion people can believe that.. You cant see or touch the god, god cannot be in a material-shape lik a human, stone, animal or whatever. The man ,Jesus, who was killed by jews was the prophet of the god, not a god or son of the god..

guess what you have no business forgiving anyone when it concerns the death of Jesus. Jesus was a Jew..died a Jew and will always be a Jew.We do not need or want your forgiveness..how arrogant of you. What you have to do is beg forgiveness of Israeli's for your boorish and vile hatred that you show on a daily basis on this forum. Obviously your church has let you down and taught you nothing..it is not the Christian way to spread lies and hatred is it? Jesus would not be proud of you.

...the term is really rather meaningless at this point though because the wingnuts have misused it for so long. What is telling and slightly ironic is the shrill answers that shriek out from their very titles without even opening the comments themselves. How many here are ready to see the Pope arrested now? Can I get an Amen?

If you're Christian, you SHOULD accept that all the events leading to Jesus' crucifixion were acted out in accordance with God's script, and that all the players involved in those events were moved by God's hand within that script. If Christ's death and ressurection were the fulfillment of God's promise of a "New Covenant", how can the Jewish people possibly be culpable, and held accountable, for His death? "Through many dark hour I?ve been thinkin? about this That Jesus Christ Was betrayed by a kiss But I can?t think for you You?ll have to decide Whether Judas Iscariot Had God on his side"-Bob Dylan, 1963 You're damn right he did!

Bible Scripture would tell us that 'sin' of man caused Jesus' death. It was the sole reason for His coming to earth to be the true blood sacrifice replacing animal blood which only covered sin--not removed it forever! More than 300 predictions make it impossible for any other person to be the messiah, who will soon return to earth in his wrath! Be ready and accountable.

The self styled american lawyers behind this just want money. Everybody knows! Are the only Americans... or are they also jews?

Blaming a Jew cannot cover the sins of All the catholic priest who have ruined the lives of many young boys through their sex sins, and then covering it up. Though they [Jews], may be blamed just as Aran Muslims do today they also will stand accountable who curse the Jew who is still the 'apple of Gods eye'. Only Jesus can remove sin. The world refuses to see this today!

He thinks this is 1942 and Mussolini is in power?

Although you are correct that the bible says that the Romans explicitly killed Jesus, it was the Jews that conspired to kill him and used the Romans (who really could care less) to execute him. It is akin, to me paying someone to kill another human being, the other person technically KILLED the person, but I am to blame for the murder. Hence, the bible has the jews yelling let his blood be on our children. You may disagree with all of this, but this IS the bible - in addition, the first persecutors of the Christians was the Jewish and the Jewish establishment (i.e. Saul, going out to murder Christians).

RE: God killers Please stop this blasphemy against God. God is one and only one and God lives forever and ever and never ever dies. This is a core pure monotheistic Jewish and Muslim belief that some do not understand. God cannot be killed by anyone or anything or die. Deicide is a blasphemy.

Leave it to the Catholic church to blame all the world's problems on the Jews. It has been going on for two thousand years and quite frankly if it were just the Catholics you could laugh off their insanity but sadly the whole world has a similar view. You hear the same God killer rhetoric or Christ killer. What is so ironic is the first Apostles were Jewish and Jesus was born a Jew so not only are they insane but they don't even obviously read the Bible or else interpret it in their own fantasy. It doesn't surprise me what they say or do, they'll always be on the wrong side of every issue and especially when it comes to God.

One of the unfortunate things about history is that it doesn't change even if you don't like it.

One of the unfortunate things about history is that it doesn't change even if you don't like it.

Judea was occupied by the Romans. They had the power, the soldiers, they could have prevented the crucifiction at any time. It would be same now if the Palistinians wanted to do some thing that the Israelis did not want to happen, and the Israelis washed their hands of the situation just like the Romans did, and did nothing to prevent it. Both the Romans and the Israelis had the power and means to stop any thing they did not want to happen. I think once again the Jews are used as scapegoats because the early church was looking for converts, and the Romans were a handly pool of souls to get, but how could they convert them, but at the same time call them the Christ killers which in fact they were.

Who really cares? I don't. A lot of the New Testament is about as reliable as most of the Old Testament. I mean do you really think Moses existed? Or that the Red Sea parted? Or that Jews were in Egypt and built the pyramids. Come on.

Actually you're pretty much right. It was Palestinians. They were all Palestinians. Some of them were Jewish. Even today there are a lot of Palestinian Jews. They are the only Jews with any connection to Palestine.

Rick. Apparently you didn?t read the article. Israel is not and has not attacked the Church...quite the opposite. Bishop Giacomo Babini the Child molester is blaming JEWS for sexual predators in the Catholic Church.

Rick. Apparently you didn?t read the article. Israel is not and has not attacked the Church...quite the opposite. Bishop Giacomo Babini the Child molester is blaming JEWS for sexual predators in the Catholic Church.

"I suspect the poor guy is seniie. Feel sorry for him." - potobac You might well be right.

"WHAT WOULD CHRIST SAY" - Quess Who According to the oldest 'Gospel', that of Mark, the last words of Jesus were the first line of Psalm 22. "And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" - Mark 15:34

Who killed Jesus? Was he stoned? Or was he crucified? Despite the politicallly and theologically driven conflicting claims in the New Testiment, the simple fact of who killed Jesus remains to be easily seen. Soldiers of the Legio VI Ferrata nailed Jesus. Centurion Longinus is named in the book Acta Pilata as the man who struck the death blow.

We Jews are gaining popularity!! This tops them all!

Again man is speaking for Christ. Man makes its own laws in the name of Christ. Thank you man for the problemds you are going to cause

I suspect the poor guy is seniie. Feel sorry for him.

They are the "indigenious inhabitants" of the Holy Land ,aren't they ? So it's a case of mistaken identity. Go tell it to Father O'Hara when you next time hear him preaching brime and fire against the "Jesu killers"

As Lenny Bruce said, "Yeah, sure, we killed Christ, but that was 2000 years ago. Isn't there a statute of limitations?"

Pope John Paul II tried hard -- and did great work -- trying to mend the fences between Catholics and Jews and to condemn the ancient hatreds and prejudices the church held towards their "elder brothers in faith." He was a great man and let us remember his kindness and wisdom in this area.

This silliness always amuses those who believe Christ was killed by Jews. . It was a very long time ago, and in any case Christians (like me) believe Christ forgave those who betrayed and executed him. So why shouldn't we? I think it's dumb for anybody to go around accusing today's Jews of killing Christ, but equally dumb for Jews or anybody else to express outrage at the idea. I've certainly forgiven them for it and I hold no grudge, but still the denial continues. Stop trying to re-write history. It happened. Get over it.

Just as Sudan's dictator claims that reports of the atrocities he commits in Darfur (against fellow Muslims, though not of same ethnicity) are "Zionist propaganda", this idiot bishop does the same about the scandals going on (how many Jews live in Newfoundland or Ireland?). Babini is unquestionably one of the ABUSERS himself. "emeritus" split as "e" for out, "meritus" for deservedly!

If he made such a remark it is definitely racist and reprehensible. He denies the charge, so I guess you could say he's innocent until proven guilty (oh sorry, that doesn't apply in Israel) But if proven to have said it, he should be kicked out of the Catholic Church.

Sounds like another case of somebody inventing 'quotes' that would never stated. Giacomo Babini says he never said any such thing. Well I have not ever met with him, nor do I know anything about him. There are too many revisionists that invent 'quotes' that were never made. Without a shred of proof this is just another attempt to smear people.

How could those Zionists have such total control over the Catholic Church that they could turn it into a organization which protected and promoted child molesters world wide? A conspiracy so vast! I never knew that some Zionist Conspiracy managed to manipulate the last two Popes, many Cardinals and Bishops world-wide. Oh, NOW I get it! It is the Zionist responsible for the Church getting caught. Those wiley Zionists control the media, courts and governments on all continents . . . Wow! That is a conspiracy so vast. . . If there is a conspiracy, it has been a conspiracy by a rigidly controlled heeirarchy operating on all continents for millenia which has sought to protect itself and gotten caught. The frantic efforts to convince people to 'ignore the man behind the curtain' only continue to reveal a pattern of perfidy. The Catholic Church needs to go to Confession to get out of Denial Purgatory.

This bishop's comments should be condemned rather than denied, and he should be put out to pasture. As a catholic and having been schooled in convents, I can honestly say that we were never taught anything but respect for all other mainstream religions. Having said that, I believe that the catholic church has utterly failed the children and young people who were abused by it's clergy, and needs to be made accountable

What the bishop emeritus may have said (he does deny it) is terrible!! However, we shouldn't lose perspective. This is an 81 years old retired bishop speaking for himself, not the Church. But it is important that the Church condemn this speech.

quoted in "a website". which website is this and since when did random websites is considered a reliable source? If it was a reputable website then give us its address if not then this article should be removed and an apology issued to the bishop.

By refusing to honestly deal with the widespread sex abuse within the Church, the Catholic hierarchy is destroying it. Blaming the Jews will only make things worse for the Church.

if you read it,i said catholic church i did not say your church! so you sound quite anti jewish??that was not the subject!!! catholic priests abused many young people,they live with it,its hard..keep on the subject!!!

Protestants do disagree with the Church, but we both believe in Christ, we are both Christians, Jews and Catholics and by extension Christians (i believe) are natural enemies, Jews and Islam too for that matter - it is a sad statement but true, all three of these faiths are destined to fight until on exterminates the other - really sad.

it's so absurd... how can one kill God? How can humans kill God? God can kill all of us ... but we can never kill him !

"...Jews are already embroidered in a fight with Israel..." Clearly you meant "embroiled" unless of course you were referring to Israel's needlework. I also protest your content, if anyone is directly more the "natural enemy" of Catholicism then naturally it would be Protestants.

To the people of Grosseto: Having met such wonderful people there I can't see any resemblance between your fair citizens and the horrible and dangerous things attributed to your Bishop. Many Italian people helped their Jewish bretheren during WWII and the gulf between them and antisemitism could not be greater.

unfortunately such ideas are not so medieval. I've had someone ask me why we killed the lord.

The bishop says he never said anything like that. So shouldn't the story be checked before it is spread all over the world ?

Seems very standard these days. Talking to themselves, Jew-haters are not shy. Out comes all the guff about deicide, global conspiracy, eating Christian children, coming from planet Jupiter etc. But when talking to outsiders, suddenly they are attacking Zionism / Jewish Self-Determination rather than all Jews per se. It's totally transparent and as per this article, the thin veil slips easily.

"historically speaking, the Jews are God killers." How can Jews kill God? Isn't God omnipotent?

It is a growing demographic in America (which Israel needs) - attacking the Church will only unite Muslims and Christians against the Jews - this cannot be good for Israel. The fastest growing sector in the US is the hispanic community, most of which is deeply Catholic, giving the Church a lot of influence and power in American politics in the US, in fact, in most of the Americas.

First of all, this man denies making the statement, secondly, I would not be surprised if there were Jewish interests involved in attacking the church, Jews and Catholics are natural enemies after all. But we must deal with peace, if you take western Europe and most of the Americas from Argentina to Quebec, it is heavily Catholic with a large Jewish minority - having a conflict between faith is not good - Jews are already embroidered in a fight with Israel, adding another billion people is not good, and creates the conditions for the continued and resurgent persecution of Jews.

When all else fails...blame it on the Jew.

for they know well what they do.

Goes to show how transparent the "anti-Zionist" ploy is

I am glad to read your remark. Of course most catholics in more modern times aren't antisemites blaming jews to be God killers. Most can place the killing of Jesus in the context of an incident in ancient times and don't hate Jews in general for that, let be the now living Jews. Such vieuws are quite medieval. I was shocked and ashamed to read the nasty remarks of that bishop and in the context of the pedophilian scandal in our church it is disgusting. We all know the church fathers have to blame themself. Again such an stupidity after the stupidity of Cantalamessa. I cannot blame Jews in thinking catholic church leaders are antisemites. Some really are.

The Club of Rome is starting to swing its ugly head. Through deflecting its internal strife, it awaits the next pope to bring the calm before the storm. Standfast Israel the caginess of their politics is not a reflection of people with true faith that know Israel and Jerusalem is their Eternal Blessing.

To cover up this dispicable behaviour they claim it to be a "Zionist attack" When in doubt as to who is guilty,they blame the Jews.

So let me get this straight....Jews are responsible for the priests haveing sex with younge boys? wow.....how pathetic

He has made many statements in the past. All of them show, he is not of sound mind. Once again he is at the center of another row. I wonder whether all those Irish,German,English,US and other Catholic kids that were undoubtedly abused by those that practice celibacy are themselves astounded by these latest revelations. Of course they are. Good day.

me as a cataholic are so ashamed of such stupid comments. Instead fightig the real enemy, they focusing on minor stupid things. The muslims soon will soon be the biggest religion in the world. So instead fighting them they focusing on the jews... stupid stupid stupid!

Right!!! These holy men screw the kids and the Jews get the blame. What next? What a bunch of perverted nogoodniks

These old age reprobates are desperate and will say anything to deflect the focus from the crimes they have committed against their own young people. The worst thing is how easily it comes to them to use Jews as a scapegoat The Catholic clergy live in an unatural way and this is the result. However that does not mean to say that all Catholics are bad . Many Catholics, including nuns risked their lives to save Jews and this is something we should never forget when responding to this vile tactic.

there is no doubt that the church has deep seated structural problems involving the hatred of jews. the catholic church is in crisis.they will lash out.that would only make matters worse.

zionists had always claimed to be the only group directly following jesus. the point is, they are right! the catholic church is a copy thats all.now lets talk about the problem with that.... christians and muslims traditionally have much betters and friendly ties than they both have with judaism! it is hard enough for jews to stand against one(muslims) world religion.what if in near future it would be two? we have seen that in germany 1933.sure today there is a jewish state and many friends in the usa.if we are honest the jewish state is way too small to survive any conflict..one wmd would wipe the state of israel from the planet spreading zionism all over the world.after that it would be easy for hostile secret services to hunt us down. i understand that zionism wants to be a or mabee even the worlds biggest religion but reaching such an aim choosing confrontation is impossible and wil backfire as it always did in the past.it seems that some of our leaders are not using their brains.

We just got remembered what the favorite dinner table item still is of all those feasting priests. Now if I may give some good news: Europeans are not falling for it anymore and statements like this are nowadays working contra-productive for the Vatican. Just read that 70% of Germans for instance have no more trust whatsoever in the 'Holy Church' and it is raining cancellations in the tens of thousands of membership. They start feeling ashamed too for their Pope. After all, who wants to be associated in any way with someone who looks the other way when confronted with hordes of pedophiles in his club?

This is the best laugh of the day! Really the Zionists don't need to attack the RC Church on this matter - they have encompassed their own destruction and are busy digging themselves an even deeper hole. Leave them to it.

what a bastard!!why blame jewish people for the many years abuse suffered by the hands of catholic priests all over the world!!!!!! those people still suffer! the catholic church offers nothing,no real heart felt apology.they should hang their heads in shame!! get rid of the pope too,what good does he do?,he allows these people to say such things!!