Report: Anti-Zionist Israeli to direct movie for Israel's 60th birthday
Director Eyal Sivan, who called Israel a 'historic mistake,' to receive NIS 650,000 in state funds for movie.
By Haaretz ServiceAn Israeli director who is a self-proclaimed "anti-Zionist" has been hired by an Israeli television channel to direct a film marking the 60th anniversary of the establishment of the state, Army Radio reported Sunday.
According to the report, Eyal Sivan will be given a NIS 650,000 grant, paid for by Israeli taxpayers, to direct a film for next year's Independence Day, Israel's 60th.
The film will be part of the "Past and Present in Israel" project, meant to promote Israel's "Jaffa" brand citrus fruit. It will be produced by Channel 8 television, together with the Jerusalem Cinematheque and the Rabinovitch Fund.
Sivan, who has resided in Paris for the past 15 years, directed the 1999 film "The Specialist," which used footage from Adolf Eichmann's trial to portray the architect of the Final Solution as just a Nazi party bureaucrat, the radio said. The film also attempted to present Sivan's view that Eichmann's Jewish victims could have done more to prevent themselves from being murdered, it said.
In an interview in 2001 in the French newspaper "Le Monde," Sivan famously referred to the UN's 1947 partition plan, which called for a Jewish homeland in Palestine, as a "historical mistake." He also said that the rise of anti-Semitism in France is in large part due to the support for Israel by French Jews.
Sivan co-directed with Palestinian director Michel Kleifi the 2007 documentary "Route 181," which deals with life along the seam line, which formed the pre-1967 West Bank border.
According to the radio report, French Jewish academic Alan Finkelkraut called the movie "incitement to murder" for the comparisons it draws between the treatment of Palestinians by the Israeli government and the experience of European Jews during the Holocaust. Sivan sued Finkelkraut in French court in 2007 over the remark, but the lawsuit was thrown out.
The radio report stated that during the Second Lebanon War last summer, Sivan joined a group of Israeli filmmakers in signing a petition pledging support to Lebanese and Palestinian civilians. The petition read: "We the signatories are absolutely against the brutality and cruelty of the State of Israel as shown in the news from recent weeks."
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This is super sickening. Our hard-earned taxes are going to this "person" who supports our enemies? I can't believe it! We have plenty of talented people who live in Israel (and didn't leave) and who love our country who should be given this job. I truly feel sick after reading this article.
A very judgmental article, signed by "Haaretz service", shapening the answers from the 2nd sentence... ? Is this in conformity with the usual professional standards of Haaretz ? No. How come journalists don't mention the taxpayers, when reporting about the army's budget, or protection of the settlements ? A journalist who obviously does not know a thing about Sivan's previous works... "Guidelines for publication of comments" warning that racism is forbidden, when dozens of articles everyday are followed by outrageously racist reactions... Sivan is one of the last honest and fair Israelis. The type who keeps many Frenchmen from being totally anti-Israel because they respect his courage. In 50 years, historians will ask how Haaretz dares publishing such an article.
you cant tell me that there was not a better choice of directors for a film about Israel's 60th than an anti-zionist ex-pate who chooses to live in Paris.....as an new Oleh I find this sad...very sad......
It means that our US citizenry is ill informed, and if the media are sheep, so are the people. Wolf Blitzer used to work for AIPAC. He's a likeable guy on TV, but can he be objective about the Middle East? Rahm Emmanuel is the number 4 guy in the Democratic party. He joined the IDF for a short service. He's an American congressman. Why didn't he join the US military?? I'm too obtuse for all this I guess. Someone "smart" needs to "explain".
(a) usually the majority get to make the rules..why should anyone think the minority should? (b) some jews have no compunction about putting guns to the heads of palestinians on the West Bank now that they are the majority and (c) there have been lots of times when jews have not been persecuted, like now in the US for example (BTW, where there are lots of Christians...but rising criticism about perceived behavior in the West Bank).
This guy is no different than the Neturie Karta. The fact that the government of Israel took action against the Neturie Karta and yet gives money to this guy, calls for an investigation. The attack on the Neturie Karta is nothing more than the continual war against the Torah Keeping public. These secular anti zionists Jews are in fact more dangerous than the Neturie Karta. All responsible Rabbis had the moral fortitude to condenm the Neturie Karta, but the secular zionist israelis do not denouce these enemies from within. The secular israelis lack morality.
Don't bother with her She's like a yappy snappy little puppy (please note Ha'Aretz, I did NOT say BITCH) which appears on the scene snaps at jEWISH/iSRAELI heels & the moment you even look at her ........... IT RUN's away! A waste of space!!!
the grant should be fired as scoundrels. We had seen already the idiot Toaff from Bar-Ilan with his book. Should we see an anti-Israel film of another self-hater E.Sivan?
they remain Jew-Haters. The terminology doesn't matter. What about Jews, they have a full right to live in the Land of their Ancestors. The Jews-Israelis speak the same language as their Ancestors. Jews-Israelis have the same religion as their Ancestors. Sure, they have the right to possess the Land of their Ancestors.
Well, I agree. However there should be investigations into many other things. How did the Falashas, for instance wind up in Israel even though they are anything but Jewish? Was there any blackmail or bribery involved? There are plenty of things that should be investigated. It seems that leaders of the state of Israel never cared either for the interests and welfare of the Jewish nation or for honoring the law. Unfortunately, the state along with its leadership - regardless of party affiliation - is saturated with corruption.
Haaretz quotes Galatz. Could Haaretz treat us as adults and discuss Eyal Sivan on the basis of fact not hearsay?
Istanbul can trace itself back to Constantinople, but that doesn't make Turkey the Holy Roman Empire. Saudi Arabia was created when the family Saud and allies beat the Hashemites, who had been the rulers of Mecca and Medina. They'd spent too much time conning the Brits out of millions via T.E. Lawrence and didn't share it with the other Arabs. When the Hashemites were kicked out, the Brits gave them 80% of British Mandate Palestine, the "Jewish Homeland" and made that area off limits to Jews. While the modern State of Saudi Arabia was founded in 1932, the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan wasn't founded until 1946 -- also after WWII. BTW: Those are the only countries in the world named after the ruling families. How democratic...
It's not about opinions, Yuval; it's about honesty. Your irony is neither helpful nor just.
"UN Finds Pervasive Abuse Against Dalits" 13 March 07 Excerpt: On March 9, the UN Committee of Racial Discrimination (CERD) issued its Concluding Observations regarding India's compliance with the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination. The Committee's report found that 'de facto segregation of Dalits persists' and highlighted systematic abuse against Dalits including torture and extrajudicial killings, an 'alarming' extent of sexual violence against Dalit women, and caste discrimination in post-tsunami relief. ...The Committee has given India a year to respond to four of its recommendations, including its recommendations on how India can end widespread impunity for violence against Dalits, and Dalit women in particular. http://www.humanrights-geneva.info/article.php3?id_article=1277 Also see: Hidden Apartheid: Caste Discrimination Against India's "Untouchables" http://www.hrw.org/reports/2007/india0207/
wierdly, I'm impressed that Sivan was given money for then new film, all you yahoo "Israeli right or wrongers" are not the only game in town, apparently there is more openess in Israeli than one can usually assume. Alas, this is the exception that proves the rule, however, the know nothing pro zionist insanity that has the country in thrall will eventually lead to its demise, no country can continue to be so ethnocratically determined when so much of the population is not included. Sivan is a true israeli patriot, you can tell this by the confederacy of dunces (hello all you yahoos) aligned against him.
"I was astounded to really see how weak these people were and why didn`t they fight back but rather walked to their death like sheep."-American I have lived in Brooklyn NY for the past 18 years. I work in this Holocaust survivor community and I have heard the stories of many survivors. One man fixed motorcycles for the SS, but he was good at it and they liked him, so they didn't kill him, but they did kill his friends. Another was a cook at Aushwitz for 4 years. Another was given the choice of being castrated and living as a slave working on arms for the Nazis, or being shot. And another lived as a prostitute for a camp commander, because she was beautiful, she did not die. You make me sick! Powerless people, men, women and children, without arms just wanted to live. The Nazis would have murdered you as well.
Israel is suffering from a crisis in accountablility.
Christas pathetic made up history: "Jordan, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Kuwait, Palestine, were created together after WWI, not WWII. And Saudi Arabia existed before WWI as the Kingdom of Nejd, since the 19th century." ================= Now, Wikopedia's real history: "The modern state of Syria was formerly a French mandate and attained independence in 1946, but can trace its roots to the fourth millennium BC; its capital city, Damascus, was the seat of the Umayyad Empire and a provincial capital of the Mamluk Empire." ========== Last time I looked, WWII ended in 1945. Christa, lying on the internet is risky business, as the truth is readily available. Question is what is you motivation for these lies and deceits? This we already know: anti-semetic anti-zionism.
If a photographer ever asks you to pose like that, fire him/her immediately, and hire a new one that doesn't specialize in junior high-school yearbooks. (Yet another reason for this tool to be ashamed of himself.)
Non jews have been making the rules jews have had to live by.Dont you know anything? It was the church for religious reasons and Islam for the same that resulted in the situation.Do Jews get the same luxury to put guns to your heads as you have to ours??Why was their no persecution of jews under the Roman Empire? Why did the ptolomies invite Jews to live in Egypt? Why did Persian see them so well? Christianity and islam are the ones with the attitude problems.If you dont udnerstand that their isnt much for us to talk about, you are just too obtuse.
Only in the state of Israel were 500-700 thousand Muslim and Christian Arabs told that Haiti,Panama and a host of other countries had decided by a narrow UN vote to place them under the political control of a people with whom they had NOTHING in common sociologically except a major dislike of the others habits. None of the other countries you mention had a major influx of alien people whose speeches for 50 years kept using the phrase "transfer"...A formula to guarantee disaster. If the UN "gave" Central Florida to the Jews for a national homeland, I can tell you that my evangelical neighbors who are so pro-Israel, would scream bloody murder. I wouldn't want to live in a country that was specifically defined as the homeland for some alien society like the Kurds, Incas, expat North Koreans, Japanese, or Buddhists....or the Scots for that matter(even if they promised to learn English). There is nothing wrong with the formation of a Jewish state. Its HOW it was carried out and where.
I am an English football Tottenham supporter. After 4 - 8 English or European matches that I watch each week, I don't have the energy for more football....or the energy to fight with my wife "stop watching that stuff all day, and every day." The Talmud tells us to seek balance. If I don't find balance, my wife will have me walking the plank.
Did you see that Bill Moyers show on the build up to the war on Iraq? It shows exactly how the US press is coerced and cowed. NO US network could be as critical of US forces in Iraq, Afghanistan, or Guantanamo as Haaretz is of Israeli policy.....no Canadian news outlet either. It is almost unbelievable that in a country as nationalistic as Israel, that the press is so free. Mazel tov!
It is nice to see that there are still decent people in the world that rise about ideology and ethnic hate to really speak the truth. I saw the film about Eichmann's Jews and I have to agree, I was astounded to really see how weak these people were and why didn't they fight back but rather walked to their death like sheep. So sad.
Not the official line.We do have a Constitution ,I'm sure you know that. Re: Dalits,I have not denied that inustices have happened and continue to happen.Many of the offenders are brought to justice.Some are not. Whole villages,an exaggeration.The Indian village is composed of several castes,not just the Dalits(I hope your Parsi friends are not misleading you).Re: the Dalit who posted that they loved India.Not my friend but just someone who saw the misplaced questions and decided to post an answer.Also,not all states have this problem.A few.And yes many Dalits have risen to high positions as ministers.And the India government has set aside quotas jobs and education for the Dalits Have no explanation for your Parsi friends' dislike of Muslims.Your friends are a small minority living in the U.S.Indian Parsis are a fine lot. By the way, they too like the Muslims,stood shoulder to shoulder in the Indian freedom struggle.Anyway,this piece is about israel.You can post on Indian websites.
to set the atmosphere. The real criricism of Munich included the script author Kushner.An openly stated Israel hater and who admitted he could not make an unbiased movie because of his political views. The craven cowardice and incompetence displayed by the local security forces was at best glossed over. There followed a staged hijacking to relase a convicted terrorist. None of this was really part of the movie but very much part of what happenned.It led to several cave ins to threats and "deals" by other European nations.Deals based on allowing Arab terrorists a free hand as long as they killed elsewhere. If Israel had done everything the terrorists demanded would that have ended terror? Mr Spielberg has every right to draw any moral conclusions(violence begets violence)he choses and others have the right to state their opinion without a sloganeering put down in lieu of examining the deficiencies in the movie.
From Wikipedia on Lebanon: "Lebanon gained its independence in 1943 and the French left the country in 1945. France maintained close links, however, with Lebanon and Syria, up to Jacques Chirac's friendship with late Premier Rafic Hariri." Now, it may be that some of these countries were created before WWII by the League of Nations and the Western Powers, like England and France, while others like Lebanon got their indepndence much later. Either way, as is the case with Israel, these nations were created by colonial powers which created a Christian (Lebanon), Jewish (Israel) and dozens of Muslim states. If it was OK to creat Christian and Mulsim states, why not a Jewsih one? This was my history lesson here! And, in the case of Indian, Pakistan, Iraq, the Yemens, etc., the transition to statehood was similar to Israel, wars and strife, not to mention lots of revolutions and murder. To say that Israel is somehow special here and should not exist is an anti-semetic joke!
Jeez, it is bad enough having Hollywood Schlemielbergs - Israeli copycats are sickening. It is high time for Israelies to tell their tiny cultural elite to go to hell.
It's true the Israeli press is freeer (or much braver)than the USA weasel press who are all too aware of what would happen to them were they to print too many articles critical of Israel. To be fair to our resident US careerist weasels, however, since much of what happens in the West Bank takes place right before the citizenries eyes, it is more difficult to pretend it doesn't exist. "Tzvi, why are you bulldozing these Palestinian olive groves?" "What olive groves? I'm weeding my garden, you schmuck!!!!" QED.
"Pakistan has not been trying to take over India nor has Pakistan attempted to manipulate the world stage for it`s own selfish endeavors. Pakistan is also not in the business of using it`s military to commit acts of terrorism disguised as self defense." -FlimFlam Huh?! Just a few years ago nuclear India and Pakistan almost had a nuclear war that was stopped by the international community in the nick of time. Palistan, oops, Pakistan has through its secret services murdered thousands of Indians, far more than Palis terrorism has murdered Israeli civilians. Pakistan allows Al Qida forces to enter Afganistan at will to attack coalition forces there. When Pakistan was created millions of Hindus were murdered, expelled and sent to India. Indian and Pakistan have already gone to war twice over Kashmir since 1947. Flimflam, what anti-semetic planet are you living on? There is a reason why India and Israel have a close relationship. Both are non-muslimn countries that face muslim agression.
Danite, you can help me here...(a) what is "olf restrictions fell away"and (b) why would islam and christianity "push you away? Is it because you have some special qualities?" My answer is yes....and not just symphony violinists. Certainly there are some positive qualities. My point is there is also as much likelihood of negatively perceived qualities. Most Taliban would not see keeping little girls out of school as a negative,but it makes the rest of the world sick to their stomach at the thought.Some Talibanese(?) would be bewildered if they knew how they are percieved. What you see as rejection because of some positive quality, the other side sees as rejection of a negative quality. At some point Jews will have to look to themselves to adjust better to the world outside because for 2000 years, people have been hoping and sometimes demanding at the point of a gun that some aspects of Jewish attitudes to goyim are a serious pain in the a_s. One needs to live in the world as it is.
So multi culuralism in canada is now a leftie conspiracy destroying the country I take it??
You are giving me the official stuff, i am talking about what actually goes on ,on the ground.Pakistan claims Kashmir as its own, why not for the cause of Peace dont you give it back.So what if the law says the Dalits are equal, tell that to the High caste Militias in Bihar that murder and rape whole villages. I am glad your friend has the power to speak for ALL Indians!! Wow that says it all!!! I happen to know a number of Indians especially Parsis who have a rather different view of the Muslim world.Please spare me the self serving propoganda!
Sorry, Israel will be Islamic before France or any European country (Spain, Italy firstly, to name them). This is the laws of numbers.
Soppy face, soppy smile, soppy views...... You could cut them down to six.
Jordan, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Kuwait, Palestine, were created together after WWI, not WWII. And Saudi Arabia existed before WWI as the Kingdom of Nejd, since the 19th century.
"The rise of anti-Semitism in France is in large part due to the support for Israel by French Jews". Good point, and he knows what he is talking about, after 15 years in France. And his point is true in other European and African countries as well (and most likely elsewhere).
That being Palestinian mindset too, not just Israeli!If they are serious about coexisting they must show us, not put up a display of weapons and fire rockets etc! Thank You Alon Fisher
I believe it to be figure of speech that means "Palestinian heads as surragates."
HOW? Im with you!!!
How can this be ? Isn't there anyway to put a stop to a person who HATES Isreal and doesn't even live here from making a film for our 60th birthday? Anyone have any ideas? Who can we write to?
Fox what happened to the artist's artist? He must be writing ditties for the Israeli mega corporations,maybe chazerai Pizza these days in lieu of writing Joni Mitchell reworkings in a cafe in Yorkville.
Someone should go along to the Barbican tomorrow and ask him if he still denies fabricating the Bach/Freudiger exchange, if he still maintains he created all the reflections on the glass booth, if he still claims the film contains one minute of Hausner's opening address, if he still takes credit for preserving the originals, etc, etc. He'll either contradict himself or dig himself into a deeper hole than ever. Oh, and while you're at it, ask him if he really thinks I'm a Zionist and try to get him to tell you the truth about why he never went to court for the tapes or about my claims.
Toronto's Finest Well now,this response of yours makes a bit of a change.I don't usually read many,especially the ones I know will begin with denigration of Israel,and thus leave them alone. So,if you are the original Toronto's Finest I am glad to hear your paraises of our Journals be it Haarets,Jerusalem Post,Ynet et all. All have the freedom of the press.YES!! Thank You
Sometimes, it's really to much. reading some borderline reactions of the internautes (closed to antisemitism !) but, I am agree with you about the freedom of speech of this newpaper and impressed
Eyal Sivan will be speaking following a screening of his 1999 film The Specialist, on Monday 30th April at the Barbican Cinema, London, as part of the ongoing London Palestine Film Festival (www.palestinefilm.org).
No matter one's opinion of Israel,Zionism or whatever, Israel's press seems to be the least censored in the world. Haaretz appears able to publish whatever it wants, without fear of government crackdowns. In many Western countries,the press can not be so outspoken for fear of being dubbed anti-American, unpatriotic etc. Often the press has to soft peddle it's criticism because it craves government favours. Most of the world should follow your example, in this regard.
The only tax payers' money we should give him is for buying a rope to hang himself
Pakistan has not been trying to take over India nor has Pakistan attempted to manipulate the world stage for it's own selfish endeavors. Pakistan is also not in the business of using it's military to commit acts of terrorism disguised as self defense. Wake up Israel.
U HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD. The yordim want to fit in , no more no less.Yes indeedee. They want to drink at Starbucks and get laid with erotic non Jewish meat!!!
He could use his film as part of a portfolio presentation to the Clinton campaign. I'm sure they could find a place for him!
YIou can't even speak intelligently for yourself, much less anyone else.
Bad enough to have a "doofus"trying to make a name for himself at the expence of Israel then to add insult to injury,he has Israeli people subsidizing him. ENOUGH OF THESE LEFTIST SCUM!!!
....and you, living in the USA, should not be worrying about another nation's taxpayers.
...indeed produce documentaries about the atrocities commited against the First Nations. The US government funded PBS has also produced such films, and just last week aired an excellent anti-administration production concerning Iraq. As you ought to know, The UK government funded BBC also produces unflattering documentaries about public actions, past and present. So....why not Israel? No matter where I am from, or where I have roamed....including Israel...I am always on land taken from someone. Are you a native, First Nation, American?
A paradox Mark The people who are to blame are the ones who are subsidizing this foolish man. I hope the film "flops" and that they all lose out!! Ridiculous and silly man. As far as I am concerned Judaism=Zionism.Both are one and the same.If some don't like it, then they can LUMP IT. What some individuals would do,for a bit of recognition and seeing their face on the "bill boards"I will not wish him good luck,,,,,,,,,
Ovadiah ben Avraham,if you think that the Anniversary celebrations with be dominated by this movie and that no money will be appropriated for those thoughts from the right then ok.I have no proof. I accept that. All I can say is that I am for a free Israel one that is Jewish with democratic values and free from the duress of arab attacks. I stand by my politic regarding that and have to leave,my wife beckons from the driveway...
Israel shouldn't have to pay for ammunition to be used against itself. I would like to see any of the arab countries fund a film that's a negative view of itself.
A hooker doesn't care as long as she's paid. Anything for anyone, if the price is right.
Those on the right are no less aggressive in their way to make a living.They donate to the right wing causes that support the politics of their businesses too. The Bottom line is important but so are social issues.Our Jewish life is supposed to reflect both.Those enlightening from the left often go a little overboard but no less than the radicals on the right. Look how much turmoil this one movie that we havent even seen the trailer has already caused.
"you are right.I dont know" I agree. "the right [can] make what they want and can too get funding for this anniversary,surely." 'Surely' -- again, that is your *assumption* here. You need to study Rhetoric 101 all over again. "Lets not talk Haaretz here." Of course you want to discard the only data that this conversation is focused on, because it disrupts your utopia-dreamland. "What the hell is Lieberman doing there?" Completely off-topic, irrelevant, and hysterical. You sir, are not the model democrat you preen yourself to be! How quickly you have descended to rhetorical demagoguery!! T. Jefferson would be ashamed!
anyone familiar with the world of film, knows that documentary makers are just film makers who have not recieved the bucks to make a feature film. Most documentary makers have very little chance of making a living in the open free market. Thus they are forever seeking funding for their "art". Often times the money can only be found in the hands of the government agencies whose role is to fund the arts and culture. These agencies and their committees are stocked with well-to-do cultural leftists. The same people who make up the small Israeli elite, those who made their fortunes from sweet deals under the socialist government. They own large homes, drive Mercedez and read Haaretz. they are always on the look-out for film-makers who play the populist leftist card. In Canada these same bodies support multi-culturalism where here in Israel they support the Palestinian issue. Sivan has learned to make a living off of government and NGO funds. Enough said.
Ovadiah ben Avraham,you are right.I dont know.But what I do know is that there are many right wing rah rah media outlets and they have the right to make what they want and can too get funding for this anniversary,surely. Lets not talk Haaretz here.Lets talk the Israeli government.They are racist against the right??????? What the hell is Lieberman doing there????????
"Obviously there is money appropriated to different aspects and views from Israeli society" Not "obvious" at all. That is just the automatic assumption that the world is democratically balanced that you carry in your head. This article, in a Left newspaper, has some fairly damning things to say about the situation. If you have *evidence* that he is only one filmmaker in a political spectrum in this project, let's have it. Otherwise the issue is this *specific* 3/4-million shekels. You are too quick to project onto the world your inner perception of how it ought to be.
Most pro Israeli bloggers criticise,India,U.K.EU,Canada,Australia but not the U.S. WHY IS THAT ? Answer because the American government is the Senior Partner who allows Junior to ride rough shod over all U.N. Resolutions with its veto. Because the U.S. provides more than 2 million annually as economic aid and 2.9 billion for military aid.Because the U.S. is the greatest proliferator of nuclear weaponry,in close alliance with Israel. Let's face it, without Big Brother ,Junior will fold up.With Big Brother Israel has perpetrated and continues to perpetrate crimes agains the Palestininians.
"Making a film is not an attack on Israel`s security. It is a statement from a political aspect that should not be stifled." Ronnie, you are the true voice of sense and democratic values today!
'Filmakers have the right to express themselves. But we have to be a little more cautious when it comes to spending the taxpayers shekels' Obviously there is money appropriated to different aspects and views from Israeli society This is probably not the only voice and im sure one of many.If a right wing media outlet wants a right wing slant then would that be acceptable?????? In any case you might be pleasantly surprised by this director with his final cut,it might just be concillatory
Filmakers have the right to express themselves. But we have to be a little more cautious when it comes to spending the taxpayers shekels. The process by which this decision was taken needs to be investigated. The 60th Anniversary *Celebration* is not the appropriate occasion for this guys extremist anti-Zionist agitation.
If they had this kind of discourse within Arab society,the war itself would be over. If we had no discourse and a homogenized way of thinking we would become them in different garb. Israel is either a democracy or its not a democracy. Making a film is not an attack on Israel's security.It is a statement from a political aspect that should not be stifled.
What??!! A film that doesn't depict Israel as a plucky underdog fighting a superior Arab force bent on its destruction or yet again invoking the holocaust for whatever guilt-inducing reasons. Clearly this man is a self-hating Jew whose twisted viewpoint might give the world a glimpse of an unacceptable reality and must be suppressed or boycotted.
"The ottoman empire functioned reasonably well. Historically all these Arab countries including Palestine were under the rule of one empire or another. What happened in the Middle East is a refection of the post colonialist conditions mixed with the drawbacks of 19th century nation state mentalities."-Mike N #70 OK Mikey, first eliminate Pakistan, Bangladesh, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, and then we will have something to talk about. Then we can bring back the Ottoman Empire, if the Turks can pay for it, and eliminate Israel as well. Mike, next we will make you Philosopher King and World Emporer, a combination of Julius Ceaser and the Messiah hisself, the Lubovicher Rebbe. Mike, you are really crazy, but it sounds to me that if you could eliminate Israel, your self hating anti-Jew would be sated and the world would be at peace.
As the original exposer of Sivan's „Specialist“ hoax (it's far worse than I knew in 2005; results have been in print since January), I ask why politics is the issue instead of honesty. The many deceptions in and (especially) around that film have all been proven, including those Sivan called lies (there was talk of revoking a German prize the film received). Check out what Sivan said during Q&A at the Israel Apartheid Week in London in February about Israel's right to exist to appreciate the chutzpah of his even applying for public money. If that were all, it would be mere opportunism; that he now desperately denies (rather than disavows) having endorsed boycotts of Israel is an insult to the intelligence of anyone capable of using Google, not to mention a spineless betrayal of the cause he allegedly does support. After having spent hundreds of hours on this in the last seven years, I have to say: it's typical. R.S.H. Tryster, Berlin
there home countries, Why should yours be different? Thank You Alon Fisher
the colonial policy of divide and rule and the ambitions of politicians,atrocities took place on both sides.Happily,except for sporadic outbursts this is a thing of the past.RE: Kashmir,we are on our side of the border.The north east part is Pakistan,India in the central and southern parts of Kashmir and northe east,is China. But ofcourse you know all this, a simple google search will do.As for Palestine,India was one of the 13 non Europeans countries that voted against Res.181 and the partition of Palestine. What bothers you Danite is that we stand by Palestine.An Indian posted recently: "We stand by our Palestinian brothers and sisters,whether we are Hindu,Muslim,Sikh,Jain,Buddhist or any other religion!"In our eyes Israel is the aggressor.You as an Israel supporter(possibly Jewish also) you don't like that.It's not about Kashmir or Untouchables etc, is it ? We are not advising.We are objecting ! You don't mind American criticism,despite their domestic situation.Racism on your part?
and why not have canadians taxpayers depict the truth about Canada- that it is an illegal colony, which the British took through the methods of genocide, rape, and stealing from the locals, justifying it with the predominant at the time ideology in England, known as White Man's burden. I think Canadians, and others, are quite entitled to this point of view, let's see the destruction of the villages, the raping of the native women, and the current arrogance of Canadian whites, who ponder distant foreign relations problems while squatting on the occupied land soaked with the blood of the locals. Now, let's have the Canadian government make that movie, shouldn't we? I mean, in the interests of fairness and objectivity, right? Why do you feel that Canada is a legitimate country, and Israel is not. It has been said that more than 10 million people were murdered/starved to death in the North American Holocaust. You are living on stolen land. Go home to where you are from.
So Michael, you think that the EU is trying to stamp out nationalism and ethnic identity? The French themselves voted down the EU constitution. It would be a very sad day if all nationalities became homoginized into one global culture. With globalization the only possibility is to have ethnic nation states that can control theinfluences in their societies at their borders. In the postmodern world the purpose of Israel will be to protect and foster a Jewish society. This cannot happen in the US where only psychotic Orthodox ghettos will continue to survive and produce a sick version of Judaism. The idea of universal culture, empires, and international governments, other than to keep the peace, uphold minimum living standards and inforce human rights is stupid. It was already tried in the Soviet Union.
Part 1. Re: Untouchables(Dalits).The Indian Constitution was drafted by an Untouchable(Dalit)Minister which guarantees equal rights to all citizens regardless of religion,caste,race,gender,ethnicity,etc.Sure there are violations of it and they must(and often are)be brought to justice.An Untouchable(Dalit) posted the other day: Lakshmi,we love India.We have taken in people of all races,including Jews during the Diaspora.There is even a synagogue which shares a wall with a Hindu temple.We have a Constitution(unlike Israel).A Muslim posted saying:Israel has a long way to go before it catches up with India.Muslims have lived side by side with Hindus for centuries.During the freedom struggle against colonial rule they stood shoulder with Hindus.Our President is a Muslim and a distinguished scientist.Muslims have contributed to our artistic life(Taj Mahal) and continue to contribute to our national life.A Muslim cleric wrote a song:India, our country,the best country in the world!
Every shekel given to Eyal Sivan will be wasted on this Hamas supporter. It would be better to give it to Palestinian hospitals instead
You quote one sentence, rather then describe an entire film involved. No logic, no common sense.
If you look at history John especially since the advent of christianity and islam you will notice that both these civilisations did their very best to push jews either down or to the margins of their societies.it was they who could not get along with us, rather than us not getting along with them.The proof? Look at what the jewish response was in europe when the olf restrictions fell away and jews were allowed to integrate into society.They did so with full enthusiasm,the funny thing is the same ones who justified their anti semitism by complaining the jews dont want to integrate then had to complain they were integrating too much once given the chance.You need to fine tune your views there just a little bit John.Regards
My local Satellite service periodically shows films made in Israel, they're always leftist and unfavorable to Israel. The English Targum doesn't necessarily match the spoken Ivrit. Unfortunately, the Israeli government has no control. Arab governments censor films content. To give this Bozo funds to make an anti-Israel firm is yet another form of national suicide.
Even within a family, not all agree. SO WHAT!!
It should be virtually axiomatic that once one moves beyond core human values like love and loyalty to family and tribe, citizens of UGANDA, KOREA, MEXICO, NORWAY, TIBET,and AFGHANISTANS, as well as ISRAELIS, all pursue different modes of behavior in their own societies and how they interact with others.History shows that some of the Jewish faiths' experience interacting with one's fellow humanity has caused their fellow tribesmen much chaos and pain. EVERY ONE HERE KNOWS I AM NOT MAKING THIS UP. Many Jews fiercely resist any suggestion that their methodolgy is partially to blame for a long series of negative perceptions down through history. Statistically,it must be obvious that when some Jews find themselves in serious trouble with their neighbors, wherever and whenever they find them, that it cannot always be the other groups lack of acceptance and a low emotional IQ. Some of us can see the difference between individual good people in any society, and destructive tendencies held by a significant minority that gets everyone else a bad name. Some people on this board are convinced that there are serious flaws endemic in some of Arab/Islamic society causing them untold misery (I agree,BTW), but recoil at the idea that different flaws could exist in part of the Jewish nation. Consider the significant minority in the US black community causing the rest of the black community serious harm by denigrating scholastic achievement as being "too white". Sorry to say I am not hopeful that Israeli society is up to simultaneously shedding themselves from an addiction to US military aid, an understandable bunker mentality, and an adult perspective on their own societies' inability to get along with others down through the ages. What concerns me is the impact on my own country which is being dragged by Israel into an unnecessary conflict with a third world culture who can ill afford to engage in this conflict.
Birds of a feather.....
I agree, and it is disgusting. Keep up your good work with the "friend." Regards, as always, Cipora i'll be off for the rest of the day.
I have been rather amused ina rather morbid kind of way over the new bevy of freaks spouting from india and pakistan.You like this stuff peter? here they are in countries where you name it is par for the course, where India occupies Kashmir and represses the "freedom fighters" there.India, where high caste militias routinly rape and murder low caste women as oart of their terror campaign against the uppity lower castes,etc etc etc and they are here giving us lessons.Is their no end to the degeneracy of some peoples minds??? Regards Even though I dont write much, I read your posts and enjoy them alot.Regards Buddy.
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and Muslims in India live so peacefully with the Hindus. There has not been a Moslem terrorist attack in India for how long? How many Indians murderd by Moslem terrorists before that? He obviously has the moral high ground.
Only Jews could do a thing like this!
If is israel is the apartheid state and phony democracy you claim it is how to you explain such an egregious display of masochism of this person being hired? Also isnt he playing into the propoganda war of the Zionist cliques by making Israel appear to be Liberal?? I thought your Trotskyites were against any class collaboration etc.
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Now that Sivan's background has been exposed , I do not think that even the Leftist Cultural Establishment will be able to subsidize a film by an Anti- Zionist Israel basher. The chutzpah or sheer stupidity of their doing this in the first place show where these people are coming from. Heads should roll because of this fashla. The people who appointed him are not worthy of representing Israeli cultural institutions.
Based on the developments P the creation of Palestine was a mistake. There are still plenty Muslims within India and there was no reason to chop Pakistan off or for that matter Bangadesh. Similarly, there was no reason to create Jordan, to split Syria and Lebanon and so forth. The ottoman empire functioned reasonably well. Historically all these Arab countries including Palestine were under the rule of one empire or another. What happened in the Middle East is a refection of the post colonialist conditions mixed with the drawbacks of 19th century nation state mentalities. In Europe they are trying to correct it. In the US they have adrressed it from the get go. In the Middle East it will take a long long time before people will realise that they are wasting their lives on secterial infighting.
A short story about Sivan's integrity: At the previous Documenta XI at Kassel (2002), in light of the Second Intifada, the curator Enwezor boycotted all Israeli artists, and provided Palestian artist with a special pavilion to present their art/propaganda. However, one Israeli artist did make it in, Eyal Sivan: the catalogue of the exhibition defines him as "dissident", so his presence in the exhibition would not appear as supporting Israel. THis gives the misleading impression that Eyal's situation is equal to that of Sakharov, Sharansky or Solzhenitsyn--that is, persecuted for his politics. That said, his work at the exhibition was incredible. So choose your poison
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What a bland world this would be without the artists,the idealists,the alternatives and all the colorful elements that make up a society. Democracy allows for a plethora of views not just the usual mainstream ones. Dont worry there will be plenty of blue and white flags,Hatikvahs,Trumpets and films of victory to go around for the 60th. Secular Jewish life is made up of many elements. Long Live Democracy!!!
The question is what do you care if Israel is an ethnocracy, democracy, autocracy or theocracy? Israel must definitely NOT be interrogated any more than other countries nor have any special status as the whipping boy of the world community or as someone for whom rule of law is shaped purely in order to criticize. While Israel may not be at the TOP of the list, she is considerably far from the bottom of it. While it's true that WE strive to improve...who are you to demand it?
With the hands-on experience Eyal Sivan will gain making an Israel funded film of Israel's 60th birthday, he can then move on to a more ambitious project - the making a film based on the historian Willam Shirer's highly significant book, "The "Fall of the Third Republic", that describes how a veteran French democracy founded in "Liberty, Equality, Fraternity" became a Vichy State, overnight, throwing democracy out of the window both before and after the German army's march down the Champs Elysees in 1940. Sivan's 15 years in Paris qualify him eminently for this cinematographic challenge. He should not miss out some dramatic footage on the French Jews dragged off to Drancy for subsequent transport to Germany.
there is the pragmatic aspect also.The geopolitical configuration does not favour Israel at this conjuncture.The Arab states have finally got their act together out of sheer necessity.The Arab populations and Muslim states(Sunni or Shia) are not going to tolerate any further delay in settling the Palestinian question.A further attempt at hitting Lebanon is going to be counterproductive.Iran has said it will strike back at where it hurts,IF IT IS ATTACKED(Olmert has just denied that he suggested missile attacks).The emerging powers in Asia,India and China have economic ties with Iran(and in India's case cultural and ethnic ties going back thousands of years).With Russia joining in to form an alliance all three will oppose super power intervention in the ME.The U.S. is stuck in a quagmire in Iraq and is looking to the Arab states to hep bail out and so on. Peace now, is not only a moral injunction but good realpolitik.
as an ethnocracy and still be democratic ? In secular democracies people make films and write books critcising both government and small right wing groups that try to subvert the democratic Constituion,whether writtien or unwritten. Israel must definitely be interrogated and not given special status either as a self appointed ethnocracy or as someone above the rule of Law.
How much more damage can Israel do itself? The state will be destroyed from the inside.
What's the surprise, there has been a constant attempt to hitch a wagon to our horse as part of the rejectionism and revisionism sold b the arabists. We have spawned a left that has a "need" to bend over backwards to show how we will partake in this revisionism in order to move forward. At our 50'th anniversary we gave the arabs "nakba" which has become hallowed ground, forgetting the fact that there was no 10th, 20th, 30th or 40th nakba celebration. Now we are about to christen a new, oops christen is the wrong word, special day for the arabs in an attempt to find a rallying cry for this disparate group of people who simply cannot find a way tp unify themselves into a common purpose. We need to do it for them.
with State money. It's atrocious that the State would give a man who says the State was a mistake a lot of money for the movie. If he wants to do it on his own, fine. Israel, however, should not pay for lies. Maybe the PA can fund him.
It's about time that Israelis realize that their country is the result of continuous lying, large theft and roberries of neighbouring palestinians. A former U.S. president, namely Lincoln once said that you can lie once to an individual. You can also lie a billions of time to billions of people but you cannot lie to every body all the time. Anti-sionist views are throwing a crude light on the bandits and criminals that rule this so-called Ashem-given piece of land. Sourire et joie
Remember all the hatred that rained down on Spielberg last year because of his film, Munich? He was portrayed as a vile anti-Zionist, and by some as anti-semitic, because he dared depict in just a short segemnt of the film, a hint that Palestinians might have human feelings. Why not have Sivan make a film which MIGHT be critical of the founding of the state? Are we not entitled to hear different points of view?
Re: An Israeli director who is a self-proclaimed "anti-Zionist" has been hired by an Israeli television channel. Maybe the Israel TV channel does not know what he is up to?
This is a good example of what a newspaper is supposed to do - investigate who is responsible for this insanity so that the idiots can be fired from their jobs.
A good man, Eyal Sivan deserves respect. See a review: There's nothing tricky or particularly inventive about Sivan's method. He has simply edited down the videotapes into a visual definition of Arendt's notorious phrase. Evil, as we see it in Eichmann's testimony, is not banal merely because it contradicts the satanic stereotypes of evil that we tell ourselves, but because it can so clearly be nurtured in the ordinary smallness of mind that society usually values. Conformity, obedience, following the proper procedure: Eichmann is the man in whom conscience has become irrelevant because the state has usurped its function. This is the warning that Arendt, and now Sivan offers us. We can easily "become" Eichmann, not necessarily in our actions but in our failure to take action, simply by trusting the given social authority as absolute. http://www.cinescene.com/flicks/flicks092004.htm#specialist
I always want to ask these guys if Pakistan was a mistake. Pakistan was created to be an Islamic state out of a secular state- India. Pakistan, like Israel, was created in 1948 and the result of the creation of both Pakistan and India was war, turmoil and refugees. So Mr. Sivan and your ilk, was the creation of Pakistan a mistake?!. What about the creation of Jordan, Iraq, Syria, Saudi Arabia, and all of those other countries created after WWII by the Allies and the UN? Its good to create dozens of Islamic states, but bad to create one Jewish one? Its starting to smell like self-hating antisemitism Mr. Sivan. Oh, and by the way, Syria, Iraq, and Saudi Arabia are just exemplary political creations aren't they!!!!! I wish you well and hope that Paris doesn't ship you off to a concentration camp Mr. Sivan.
I am a British film maker, I made Aliya this year to support Israel, how do I get a grant to make films supporting Israel?
The "artsy-fartsy" crowd in Israel long ago went over to post-Zionism and anti-Zionism. Already in the 50th Anniversary celebrations in 1998 the put out a TV series denigrating the state and its accomplishments. They put on a dance at the main ceremony that was very offensive to the religious community. Thus, I would have been surprised if someone pro-Israel would have been chosen to make the film. And those above who noted his hyporcrisy in taking "dirty Zionist money", well, this crowd all feels entitled to suck up the money of the Israeli taxpayer whom they look at with such contempt. These are not moralists...they are people with NO ethics or morals.
indrajaya, what are you babbling about? Free speech in Israel extends to providing financial support even to those who fundamentally disagree with the way the state conducts itself. I know that is an alien concept where you come from but it is a very healthy characteristic of the dynamism of Israeli democracy. And based upon your many hate filed posts calling you antisemitic is a very accurate label. BTW, what religion appears on your Indonesian identity card?
Jefferson was a devout follower of Spinoza and and believed that G-d was nature. He says as much in the Declaration of Independence: "..the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them," Through Jefferson's concepts USA has created a culture based upon false concepts of G-d and the duty of the individual to be moral, resulting in a society that is narcisistic in the extreme. A society that has exported this narcissism throughout the world. In the USA this culture has completely destroyed any sane traditional cultures, like American Jewish culture and society, which is assimilating into nothingness at a breakneck speed. So one could make the argument that the USA was a mistake, and especially a mistake for the Jews, who mostly saw America as a heaven from European antisemitism. No society is perfect, man plans and G-d laughs. Perhaps Sivan thinks France is perfect. It took the French decades to own up to their murder or Jews during WII.
Who hired him? What "person" is responsible for this?
with more reasons to hate Israel, call it an occupying force, and thus excuse them for attacking and trying to destroy this 'historical mistake'. And when Jews die, it won't be their fault, because they could have done more to save themselves, such as exit Israel as he himself did by moving to Paris. I would be interested in seeing his film and what twisted logic he bases this crap on.
I have not seen the movie--so I will not comment on it. No one has seen it either. It is O.K. to choose a contraversial guy -- I have no problem with it as long as his film making skills are judged. and for that we have to wait. the choice of a film maker from the left shows that democracy is working in Israel. for that I tip my hat. and for the rest "wait & see".
Then we could have had temples landing on the Dome on the Rock to a rousing soundtrack. Or similarly Israel can choose a film maker who will show the history of the current Israel in a more realistic light. It appears many respondants of this particular talkback are having great difficulty in understanding the concept of artistic freedom. Israel has many questions to ask itself over the next year, one appears to be Is Israel a democracy, with freedom of speech and expression or not?
The opposition to an ethnically based state: "How could a Jewish Palestine allow complete religious freedom,freedom of intermarriage,and free non-Jewish immigration,without soon losing its very reason for existence?" "A national Jewish Palestine must necessarily mean a state founded on a particular race, a tribal religion, and a mystic belief in a peculiar soil. . . Zionists are quite willing to ignore the rights of the vast majority of the non-Jewish poplation of Palestine." Morris Cohen,(American Civil Libertarian)in The Faith of a Liberal(1946)pp.329-330
The Palestinians have been humiliated by the continued illegal land grabbing. Eyal Sivan is a wise and a decent human being for speaking his mind and heart. While the Israel of pre 1967 has become a fact and should not be questioned as a State by anyone, its post 1967 borders are totally illegal and must be redrawn. The Palestinians will not go away despite the total "Apartheid" actions of the Israelis and the amazingingly cruel occupation of a people in their own land. The world has not known the full impact yet but they are slowly getting there. Our US is being dragged down politically and fiscally because of this injustice and peace in the entire region cannot be realized under these conditions. Eyal Sivan should be honored as true hero in Israel for speaking his mind. He loves Israel but not its apartheid policies that if unchanged will bring further disaster to its own people. Peace will benefit all the peoples of the region. The people on both sides deserve it.
Dear Mr. Indraya, Only to precise you that anti-sionism is not the same as antisemitism. Meanwhile, I do not accept that Eyal Slivan, who is leaving abroad and is anti zionist will be funded by me in any way.
as long as he does not suddenly turn zionist, of course.
Does anyone have an address, e-mail or phone # where where we can object? How about a boycott of Jerusalem Cinematheque until they rescind funding?
I wonder whether or not some of his Zionist enemies will be trying to prove that most probably he isn't a Jew, may be his ancestors are partly Arab or Persian. Because he can't be accused of anti-semite like myself. He is a JEW, G_d damn_d it.
Israel IS a democratic country but it is ALSO in a perpetual war. It is a country that is constantly striving to be democratic against a backdrop of security issues. Normal democratic countries who encounter wars and security issues make just temporary changes during the time of duress for security purposes. Propaganda is a big tool for use when a country is at war.It gives the country more energy to deal with its enemies and any anti government propaganda takes away energy from the fight and embolders the enemy.But when a country is in a perpetual war and when it is also striving constantly to be democratic it HAS to balance the two.Here we have a case in point.We understand the need for positive propaganda as opposed to some illumiation of truths that run counter to our interests but on the other hand our truths are our humanity and a fair balance of reflection of society in the media makes the quality of the society deeper.We must applaud Israel for this constant fight.
his court case against Finkelkraut. Sivan is ready to take Zionist money. Sort of says it all about this gentleman,his motivation and his principles.
This is terrible!!!!!! How could we allow anyone with different opinions and ideals direct a film. We must immediatly establish clear principles that all those who receive ANY goverment benefits abide by. What right does this man to have an opinion? We must begin to insist that all agree with the current goverment. Disent? thats not for us!!! we should judge people ONLY on the basis of how much they agree with those now in power. Let him go back to USA or old soviet union if he wants to have his own opinion!!!!
what kind of lunacy is this? the same kind as the Iranian president singing channukah songs with Nasrallah!
Why should the israeli taxpayer sponsor M. Silvan. It should be the duty of the the PLO or the Arab League ? Is this person still a citizen of your country ? I am nevertheless proud to see that even in anti-jewish and anti-israeli hatred propaganda, we arfe the best. salomon
As well as the first Jew after he became a rebel. So what's new?
Only in Israel would the gov't pay for film that will be used against it by all its enemies. Yet the Israeli' gov't loves to give arms to be used against its population and it loves to give a way its holyland so people who love terror will have more land to do attacks from, and to make terror training camps.
Following this logic, I suggest that next year the grant be awarded to Neturei Karta to produce a film with Iranian technical assistance.
EYAL SIVAN TALKS RUBBISH, THE PROBLEM WITH ANTI-SEMITISM IN FRANCE IS NOT CAUSED BY FRENCH JEWS STICKING UP FOR ISRAEL, ITS BECAUSE OF ALL THE F... ARABS THAT FRANCE HAS LET INTO THE COUNTRY,SPREADING ANTI ISRAEL FEELING. EYAL SIVAN SHOULD BE PUNISHED FOR HIS ANTI ISRAEL COMMENTS, AND SHOULD GO AND LIVE IN THAT HELL HOLE CALLED GAZA, SEE HOW HE LIKES IT.
The film will be loved all over the anti-semitic world, since it will naturally tell the truths all Israel-haters want to hear. It will make a lot of money and win the best-film-prize in the Cannes film-festival...and maybe receive an Oscar-nomination for the best foreign movie, which will make the Am-Jews gather in Hollywood to protest and hold speeches in defence of Israel's "right to exist". The Ha'aretz's talkback: "The Israeli film the anti-semites love and Israelis hate" will break all time mail-record overheating the satellites in their orbits, making globe-wide net-links collapse here and there. - The Jews did it again! Then the anti-semites will hate Jews even more and accuse them of loving money and of being such genious. ALL this at the expense of those who toiled and died for the Land, because they loved Zionism. PS.: Duck, when s-t flies!
If you are an anti-zinist, why don't you just try a bomb-belt? or support hammas? or hizbullah? In the last war against lebanon, you said that crimes were comminted by Israel, as shown in the media....which media are you refereing at? arab media? eurabian media? or you missed to see the rockets from civilean neighborhoods throuwn b arabs? Why is the hell happening in Israel??????
It seems to me it is not the only film that will be developed for the 60th anniversary.So maybe there will be many more or at least several more than depict Israel is a more positive light and maybe Sivan will too.I am sure the content will be discussed if not approved.Israel is a democratic country and its art reflects its imperfections like any non totalitarian country.In that way its good.
With all the Israel bashing that is going on, the last thing we need is to have the state fund a film by a known anti-Zionist especially a film to celebrate our 60th anniversary. The important point is to find out who approved the funds and to have the grant cancelled immediately.
It is very sad that there are among us Jews who are promoting division among us rather than unity. Their left-vision does not serve to peace as they think, left wingers do not see progress of Israel in all aspects of life, and they put the Pal Arabs in a bad situation
Oh pah-lease so what if Eyal Sivan is to direct a film for israels 60th birthday, its about time a qulaity film maker such as Eyal Sivan told the world what is really happening here and not just the version of events that the Israeli propoganda machine would have us believe. Lets face it folks Israel at 60 is terminally ill ! Looks like the partys over
I don't understand the previous posters. This film by Eyal Sivan is part of the "Past and Present" project. His take on 60 years of Israel which will no doubt contain some healthy criticism, can only reflect well on Israel as a liberal society with freedom of expression. There will be other contributions that no doubt will glorify the past 60 years. How do you think an uncritical outpouring of national chauvinism will be perceived by the outside world with the festering occupation of Palestine next door? I think this is a clever and bold decision .
A film directed by an antizionist will draw much more attention and attrack more attention than by anyone else. The choice has nothing to do with ideology, but all to do with market and money. It's the price to pay for freedom. My advice is to ignore the film. People are getting fed up with this sort of outrage. It is no more moral outrage it is just being thoroughly fed up.
the vast majority of israel's elite spurn their inheritance.... denying its jewish character and the jewish ethos that motivated its creation and subsequent defense by and for zionism. These should be marginalized in the very least, not propped up as influencers and creators for a society they wish to destroy.
Question: HUH?
who cares about the man?
This grant will ultimately lead to the advantage of all Israel haters and biasers. The Hero s of 1948 1956 1973 died in vain. How can this money be allocated, by whom is the responsibility ?
Who is the idiot ? He or us ? Demands an immediate investigation.
I meet Jews like him all the time. They are ashamed of their heritage. They want to fit in, drink coffee and get laid (yes that is no small part in their motivation). When France is Islamic in another 30 years (at current birth rates), they will see how their lives will change. I can hardly wait.
Why do we always shoot ourselves in the foot?
If it was not so sad, it would be funny. Wake up and smell the coffee. We are so open minded in this country that our brains are falling out :(
There is still time to revert this stupid, stupid decision. I love you Israel. Don't commit suicide! Israel is the Jewish State. There are so many leftist Zionist Israelis who can do this!
Something is wrong Here !!!!!!!!! This Director could produce antything he wants to with his own money. But for the state of Israel, Chanel 8 (which must be on cable TV) which he hates so much gives him 650,000 shekels from Taxes is blasphemous. Even more hypocritical is that he took the money. The person responsible from channel 8 for this contract with the producer should be fired. Oh, you cant fire goverment workers, I forgot. Something is very wrong in Israel today !!!!!1
"... for the comparisons it draws between the treatment of Palestinians by the Israeli government and the experience of European Jews during the Holocaust." How could Alan Finkelkraut conclude that this is "incitement to murder"? Where is the logic?
Something is wrong in Here. Privately this person could direct anything he wants.
Let us this time start a petition to get rid of him. And if he's nit happy, he can always go live in Lebanon, I am sure they'll be happy to get him.
...he would not take the money but would reject the request by a state which is a "historical mistake"!