Renegade hesder rabbi capitulates in row with IDF

Let see? G-D commanded the children of Israel to march around Jericho for seven days? one of those days was a Shabbat! If G-D had the children of Israel do something that seemed not right in their sight to them, but was in the best interest of the nation? where do these rabbis get off undermining the nations defense? Maybe rabbi Eliezer Melamed should spend one day doing something good for this country? maybe he should not speak!

he should be caving under

same way of forcing ppl to to think that tora or Quran is above anything?? Everyday I'm more and more happy that I become agnostic, they way the religious leaders manipulating the religions it make me and many others think that religions are man made and it has nothing to do with God.

NOTHING IS more nauseating than God's people disobeying God ! It is God's land...read Joshua. Settlers living on God's land have no right to be forced off their inheritance. If Bibi froze the land...to see what Abbas would propose to do...it is evident Abbas is not proposing anything... So THAW the land... stop Israeli police from creating distention & attacking their own people ! This is exactly what satan wants ...to divide Israel from within...then he will not have to send forces from without ! Someone should enlighten Abbas... his head is on the chopping block too...NOT just Israel's ! UNIFY O ISRAEL....do NOT fall for satan's plan !

"the borders of Israel are delineated in the Torah" We are speaking of the modern world, 2010. Not the distant religion-oriented past. "the G-d-given borders are delineated clearly enough. Who would YOU have determine the borders? Watch what you say....HE hears you" The borders of a nation are created by man, not God. And BTW, are all us Palestinian supporters supposed to be afraid of your last comment? Not likely.

idf told him it was just show and tell isreal shows the U.S what they want to see then tells them what the wantthey want to hear and then builds a hundred more settlements the u.s gets happy like a dog who chases a ball whose master never threw it and the dog falls for it all the time

For Steve...the borders of Israel are delineated in the Torah. Ever read it? Though borders have shifted due to wars foisted upon Israel, the G-d-given borders are delineated clearly enough. Who would YOU have determine the borders? Watch what you say....HE hears you.

Kol hakovod to the yeshiva. Many Jews here in America stand by the settlement movement and the voices that uphold Torah law over any other.

Guess what he'll decide once the cabinet screws begin to turn. The hesder, which is study plus only 16 months' active army service instead of usual three years, but with more reserve duty than other soldiers, is an anomaly that allows Yeshiva rabbis to demand the academic freedom university lecturers enjoy. There is no parallel arrangement with universities. Soldiers can't study at university while doing their national service and therefore begin their studies at around 22-23 years of age, when they've been demobbed. Therefore, while a university lecturer can't tell a soldier doing national service what is right and what is wrong, a hesder Yeshiva rabbi can. Barak will have to contend with a conundrum similar to the one that obtains in the West Bank, where settlers live under Israeli civilian rule and Palestinians under military rule, or the divisions and disparities in governance and municipal management that "unite" Jerusalem. The schizophrenic games we play!

Will you Barak stand up to Hamas and Hizbulla in the same forceful manner as you have with the Rabbis? Can you Barak promise the citizens of Israel no more terror not from the South and not from the North ?Will you Barak stand up to Iran and promise the Israeli nation that Iran will never have the capabilities to launch a nuclear attack against the major cities of ISrael ?So far with the massive armiing in the South and the North with Hamas and Hizbulla stronger than ever before and the Iranians pursuing without hindrance their nuclear ambitions ,there is no evidence of a forceful defense minister on the contrary all indications are that the risk of total annihalation of the State of Israel increases day by day,whilst you are as usual are the weak ineffectual hesitant defense minister . Give me a Ben Gurion,a Golda Meir a Menahem Begin any day .

Kindly define for me your idea of what is the "Land of Israel" Please bear in mind when arriving at your decision, International Law.

And they will continue to protest immoral anti Tora edicts from the govt. despite any coerced statements their Rabbis are forced to make.

I seem to recall, the rabbi was not willing to sign a statement forced upon him by the defense ministry; though he made clear (very) publicly, he would not have encouraged nor supported political protests within the IDF, the kind of which took place at swearing-in ceremonies. He maintains he was not consulted and had he been, he would recommend against these sorts of protests. This is small potatoes compared to the larger, central issue; that is the forcible removal of Jews from the land of Israel. Should Rabbi Melamed reverse his position that Jewish soldiers should "not" obey immoral orders to expel Jews from the land of Israel, then he will have capitulated.

...only the demonstrations will be forgone, but what about the constant indoctrination...? ...and in civivilian clothes no-holds-barred... may they rant-and-rave...? ...nothing earth-shattering happened to the rabbi overnight... he'll just be more discreet about how he goes about the insurrection in future...