Qana villagers refute IDF claims building fell hours after strike

Why doesnt the IDF kill all ARabs and Muslims and take over the whole middle east. I mean aren't those the intentins of imperealistic western nations. Listen my jewish friends. There are smart black people out there who have studied the historical aspirations of Races that have traced their roots to Europe. We know that petroleum is todays gold. As much as the media pretends the war on terror is all about ideology. It is about an ulterior motive of the richer nations of this world that have founded their capitalist economies on slave labor. Think about that one. Write back EarthForce142crew@yahoo.com

To Gary Wildd. 1. Syria and Lebanon have NOT signed peace treaties with Israel. "Syrian occypied Lebanon the last 30 year, so ask Syrian why they prevent signing" 2. ... but most parts of Lebanon and even most neighborhoods of the capital city Beirut are quiet and fully functioning. "How could a land with more than 90% of there infrastructure destroyed could be (fully functioning) as you pointed above" 3. ...Lebanon could be far worse than they are. "That could be true if and only if Israel use nuclear bomb. I think that Israel did used the most weapon they estate. US now is helping Israel by sending a new type of missiles. They need a territory for testing them" I believe that every country has the right to live in peace irrespective of their belief. This swift is complicated. It's a war between US and Iran in Lebanon. Hisbulla is testing Irans weapon and Israel the US weapon. So don't accuse the lebanees who don't even own a singel sophisticated tank.

Your information is incorrect. Syria and Lebanon have NOT signed peace treaties with Israel. That is the problem: they host and support illegally armed terror groups to continue their fight against Israel without having to officially declare war. But the Arabs are fortunate that Israel has moral restraints and will NOT misuse its weapons. The war may look bad on the television screen, but most parts of Lebanon and even most neighborhoods of the capital city Beirut are quiet and fully functioning. Remember that Germany's Nazi government, at the time, would not surrender before Germany and half of the European continent were demolished. So, things in Lebanon could be far worse than they are. Hopefully, Hizbullah can be brought down to its knees without causing too much damage to Lebanon.

Dolly, you're right that I can't imagine what it's like to live with terrorism every day. But I can't understand WHY Israelis feel more and more insecure as the Arabs make more and more peace with you? With Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon out of the equation (because of peace treaties), your enemies are reduced to minority terrorist groups that the world does NOT support. If Israel was a normal civilized country, it would tolerate minor provocations from small groups. But Israel KEEPS ON believeing that the Arabs are out to get it - the Persecution Complex - and does not have enough confidence in its superior military capability. This is stupid. Just because you CAN destroy half of Lebanon, is no reason to actually destroy it. Otherwise the USA would have destroyed half the planet - and India would have taken out half of Pakistan. Israel can't be a spoiled kid that throws temper tantrums any more. It must grow up!

I am ashamed to have supported Israel. It is a country with no moral fabric left. Once it was a pround country which believed in purity of arms. Now it is a killing machine. Disgusting. I will no longer worry about the fate of Israel, only the fate of the jews.

Oh well, nice to see so many closed minds, unable to face reality! For those who cheer from the sidelines, justifying the carnage as the innocent residents, are caught in the crossfire, what a pity we can't and won't see you at the sharp end, whilst you cheer and encourage from the safety of distance! For some , it would appear Cato's final solution of 146 B.C. or Julius Severus's(during Emperor Hadrian's term) actions as the only solution, to end the problem with the numerous revolts by those unfortunate enough to be displaced in 1947/48 to live without either citizenship or a place to establish a permanent home! Dear Dolly, with your vast knowledge and intellect, could you please explain why a fast Ferry MV Akcacoka, complete with clearances to rescue stranded innocent Foreign Nationals(US inclusive), sailing from Famagusta to Beirut was deliberately fired upon by an Israeli Naval armed patrol vessel on the 25th of July, and forced to return back to Cyprus?

I'm not sure if you are for real, but I'm glad to see there are lebanese citizens who are brave enough to speak the truth. I applaud your honesty and courage.

What on earth are you trying to say? You made absolutely no sense in your message.

Livving in Las Vegas you may be able to live with this type of ideology, but living with terror at your doors every day of your life is a horrible existence. Why should Israel and its citizens be resigned to live a life of fear and insecurity. One could say, the US experienced the 9/11 tragedy and they should learn to live with events like this occassionally. After all it doesn't happen all that often. Does that sound like something you would like to live with. I sure, as hell, would not.

I live in lebanon for very long time. I have seeen many things. but never like what happens now. I know Hizbollah are evil people and because they start this war my people in lebanon have died. I see how they fight. They bring rockets by trucks to my neighborhood and shoot over to Israel even when children play near to them. I am scared because my neighbors think Israel is to blame. I know they are not. Only they care about the inocent children. I dont know what happens to my friends. They all got crazy from this fighting. I pray Israel will be able to bring peace when they kill all Hezbollah. World dont be fooled by Arab propaganda.

You should say excuse me for the multiple faux pas you have made in your letter. 1. Check the history books-there is no such place called Palestine 2. Using the word "innocent" and "Palestinian" together is an oxymoron. 3.The entire world, Jewish and Non-Jewish, acknowledge that Hezbollah purposefully fight from within and behind the civilian population like cowards. Why then do they wear civilian clothing while doing so? So they can escape more readily, without even burying their dead women and children. 4. And finally, what country belongs to Hezbollah? Lebanon? Nice to know you feel the entire country of Lebanon is a terrorist nation. Well, now it is known you are an anti-semite and an ill informed one at that.

Your gave yourself a perfect name especially since you think the lying is coming from the Israelis. Look up the word LIAR in the dictionary. Right in the definition is the word Arab/Muslim. Everyone in the civilized world acknowledges this.

You see, you have just made the very point that the UN means absolutely nothing and, of course, it always votes against Israel, no matter what. How then can anyone have any faith or trust in such an organization? Have you noticed the countries that have been allowed to sit on the Security Council of the UN. Only the very countries that produce all the terrorists. So resolution or no resolution they are insignificant. Now, I may go to sleep but you must go learn how to spell and write using correct grammer properly.

Israel should took responsibilty for this and move on. I live in the US, but I am amazed at the almost universal theme on this board, that the tragic deaths of children and women in Qana (repeat of 1996) are (a) Hizbollah`s fault, (b) justified (c) necessary (d) brave, despite universal condemnation. The terrifying thing is,Israelis seem to listen only to each other! You have lost touch with reality. However, reality exists, independently of your perceptions. Israel has come a long way, with enduring peace with Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon, and should learn to handle occasional interruptions to that peace; such as a lunatic kidnapping or periodic border skirmishes. These are common on other "hot" borders in the world, e.g. in Kashmir. However, Israel reacted as if they were itching for a fight and looking for ANY excuse to destroy Hizbollah-controlled Lebanon. Of course, the US supports its ally. SO: celebrate the peace, learn to sustain it, and drop the victim complex.

You're right. Israel indeed was looking for a chance to start the war. They have been planning for it officially since they were kicked out of Lebanon in 2000. They were prepared, except it seems for the stocks of guided bombs. But no sweat there, US delivered quickly, along with the fuel for the planes to deliver them and European goverments where happy enabling the "living spirit" of #199 to wreck the lives of Lebanese, kill disabled children in their sleep and then blame the victim for having the audacity to not properly die en masse without causing PR problems. Not to worry though, with that particular problem the 'free press' is always happy to help Israel out. They know the drill. Meanwhile in the Westbank a Committee of Rabbis issued another of their book of Joshua inspired edicts: "Any Israeli soldier showing mercy towards children in Lebanon and Palestine is implicitly merciless towards Israel's children. A living spirit indeed, such a God.

I live in the US, but I am amazed at the almost universal theme on this board, that the tragic deaths of children and women in Qana (repeat of 1996) are (a) Hizbollah's fault, (b) justified (c) necessary (d) brave, despite universal condemnation. The terrifying thing is,Israelis seem to listen only to each other! You have lost touch with reality. However, reality exists, independently of your perceptions. Israel has come a long way, with enduring peace with Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon, and should learn to handle occasional interruptions to that peace; such as a lunatic kidnapping or periodic border skirmishes. These are common on other "hot" borders in the world, e.g. in Kashmir. However, Israel reacted as if they were itching for a fight and looking for ANY excuse to destroy Hizbollah-controlled Lebanon. Of course, the US supports its ally. SO: celebrate the peace, learn to sustain it, and drop the victim complex. AMEN.

Please all on Haaretz Board , stop saying on Israel HER. Israel is the Angel of G-d the living spirit of the might name. Please ....

My heart and tears goes to all the suffering people, be they Arabs, Israelis, Lebanese, muslims, christians, Palestinians, soldiers and the children etc., etc. victims of this war and everything possible should be done in the pursuit of peace. Apart from terrorists, no nation on earth attacks (at least deliberately) US citizens or soldiers. Because US will hit back and that very hard. Why are you people denying Israel that same right? Why is there so much PR bias against Israel? We?ve all known the tactics they are using in Iraq. Hiding among civilians to carry out their atrocities. These people don?t play by the rules. How do you talk morality to a mindset (religious or otherwise) that use bloodshed as a tool in their trade? From September 11 to Beslan to Somalia to the Netherlands to Nothern Nigeria, etc, etc, these people justify inhumane wickedness in the name of ?defending? God Almighty? What an Abomination!!! I KNOW THAT THERE ARE RESPECTABLE, DESCENT GOOD MUSLIMS EVERY WHERE, (BUT THESE ARE THE EXEMPTIONS AND IN THE MINORITY OF MINORITIES). Just look at the coincidence between events in Gaza and the attack in Israel nothern border. This crisis (from Gaza to Lebanon) for all I know was orchestrated and planned by Iran and Syria and it is already achieving its purpose. No thanks to the endless bias against Israel in the media. Syria was disgraced out of Lebanon. So it will try anything to save her face through her stooges. So the blame for this war rest squarely on the shoulders of Iran and Syria and their sympathizers. Are we all suffering from collective amnesia? You have all forgotten about the pre-WWII peace, peace talks, while Hitler was busy arming herself up ?.. The West & the US have been cowered by the oil and wealth of the Arab and Islamic world. You people are talking peace, peace, (yes, we want peace) when Islam is planning and strategizing for world domination? ?Jihad to every one who do not see eye-to-eye with us or the Islamic world-view.? What is Iran developing the bomb for? To destroy Israel first, and then continue to the rest of the world? Israel had the bomb all this while and has not hit any of the muslim world with it. Iran and all the rest of them has not hidden what they will do if the positions are reversed. In a war like this, mistakes are bound to happen, but you people should stop blaming Israel for defending herself and trying to protect her citizens.

i am lebanease from the south but at the same time i want to tell all israelies that you have to convence yourself that all your army couldnt even strike a litle of hizbullah defences now you must know that lebanon is not and will not be again the weekest countrie of the arabs the only way to survive this war is to give back what is not yours (land,Prisonners,Sky,Water) do not attack us and i assure you that your children and our children will live safe . you israelies do you think we love war ?no we do not love war but your leaders love it because it gives power to them specialy non soldiers leaders like olmert he want to say "i can kill like the others" for the last time give a thaught about give what is not yours and live in peace at last we accepted you in the arab world but we will not accept your killing and taking our "water" think think think that can you kill 2.000.000 pro hizbullah . i will die for nasrallah and lebanon are you going to die for olmert.

Dear Cherice do not forget that nasrallah has lost his own son in the battle before and his other sons are in the battle now . we will fight for our children too and i hope that you have the corage to publish this regards

And Israel doesn't care how many Arabs or noJews die either. I know when religiously indoctrinated it is hard to see your 'religion' being wrong, but it is. Theer is plenty of wrong on both sides. Please, Israel needs no help making enemies, or looking bad, they're doing fine all by themselves. Israel is a country basewd on religious superiority and being God's chosen, if they don't think that view is aggresive and inflammatory to the region just as much as Muslim wanting to detsroy a nonbelieever.they are foling themselves only. Many of us see it quite clearly.

Excuse me, they were Israel bombs that fell on that house that killed the woman and children, not Hezboallah bombs. The Israel government does not care if it kills innocent people, it has been doing this for the past 50 years, just look at Palestine, where 4,000 innocent Palestinians have been murdered by the Israelies. Hezbollah are fighting for their country which is being blasted by cluster bombs, killing innocent children. Excuse me but that old excuse that Hezbollah have been using their woman and children as shields does not wash with the rest of the world. It is about time the International world stood up against Israel, USA and the UK governments and stop this tradegy immediately. Hezbollah are the only ones who have stood up and supported the Palestinian people when the rest of the world had forgotten about them. Israelies who were persecuted during World War II are now the race who are doing the persecuting - not Hezbollah.

ok so here's life for an israeli: -you have no access to any unbiased media reporting (under the excuse that reporting serves hizbullah) - religion is used in every aspect of your life, after all you only came to this imposed country under a religious excuse, and this excuse keeps fueling everything in your life. your religion even says killing "gentille" is ok.. - you have to support your gvmt and army. since you have no access to facts, you have to invent them. since you have to support your gvmt, you need to believe it's a good moral one. you hear of a massacre. how can you explain a massacre while still believe your gvmt is good?! a 2 years would come up with a lie like : he started it.. or i didnt do it he did it. well.. i can understand why you keep saying hizb is killing your children, bcz that's what you all are...babies.but still, you cld have a little bit more creative.

Hesballa was mentioned as a major humanitarian organisation in Lebanon. Could not they evacuate locals from combat area?

has a vested interest in lying to the public. They were a moral people, who might object to the carnage being done in their name. But, in the name of self-defence go right ahead blast the children to hell -- that is the sick attitude of a lot of your readers, apparently.

have some compassion in your heart! we live right on top of Israel. they lie so well that their citizens are completely convinced the Hizb is the criminal and Israel only wants to defend itself...they even dare calling the army that hit a UN base sheltering 109 civilians and killed everyone in it "moral". so please, do not get offended if some of the lebanese fall for their lies as well...some people believe raping a woman is enjoyable for her what do u sya about that?.....lies can have their effects so dont be harsh...we have mentally retarted people who reach about the same IQ as israelis and thus fall for their gvmt lies, don't you have mentally challenged people in egypt?!

"they,we are told on hizbollah insurgents,haven't any value of life,they are ready to die" if it's true and "they" are ready to die why they would hide behind children and old people If "they" are fanatical who want one thing to reach faster the coming life and enjoy 70 virgins why they would hide behind children? of course is'nt logical. but we,who want to sew terror and want everyone to know that the boss got creasy,and want to ensure our people that many,many of "them" value less than of of ours,then we have to kill

It is really sad, that civilians are used as shields by the Hisbolla - bu it will remain that way, that's their policy. Unfortunatly the western "free" press just waits for accidents like this, which is what the Hisbolla wants. Not to mention UN-Annan, who probably only reads arabic news papers ... IDF shouldn't take any notice of this, they have to continue hunting down the Hisbolla - and make sure the leave Libanon. Otherwise the State of Israel will be in great danger. Imagine: Libanon / Syria / Iran as Hisbolla countries.

HIZBULI DOES NOT CARE HOW MANY LEBANIES WILL DIE, SO THEY FIRE ROCKETS BEHIND WEMON AND CHILDREN.THE LEBANIES MUST STAND UP AND SAY TO THOSE FOOLISH ISLAMIST TERORIST""GO TO HELL WE DONT WANT YOU.I THINK MOST PROBABLYTHE HIZBULI DID IT TO MAKE THE WORLD AGAINST ISRAEL.

The Arabs will sometimes stage a 'bloodbath' among their own if such an action can help them prevent an other, bigger disgrace - the loss of honor. It is not unusual to kill a daughter or wife who is suspected of immoral behavior. The theme of Arab 'honor' murders has appeared during previous wars against Israel: the shooting of Mohammed al-Dura (2000) was probably a set up; the Jenin 'massacre' (2002) never even took place; the recent Gaza beach 'shelling' may have been faked. Qana could be added to this list. Hezbollah's motives seem obvious: (1) to their sponsors, they must show control over the situation and (2) they sense a desperate need to pull Israel down in the eyes of the Arab and world media. Humiliating the enemy counts as a very important 'victory' in terms of Arab honor. It is a MAJOR GOAL in Arab wars. Irrespective of the cost and even if Qana proves self-inflicted, the Arabs feel their 'honor' has been somewhat restored and 'justice' was done to them.

It is possible to make a conclusion that Hizbollah forced the children to the basement of the building from which they constantly fired Katyushas. IDF identified this buildind as a war target but certainly did not know who was in basement. Hizbollah always uses civilians, especially children, as a live shield. UN must strongly condemn Hizbollah and issue a statement that Hizbollah must lay down the arms and not trigger a large conflict around the globe.

It's amazing to hear Lebanese people asking Israel to help them get rid of Hizbullah...Have you become so weak?? Do you think tens of children dead is a small price to pay in order to get rid of Hizbullah and regain 'tourism;??!!

Your post is a string of cliches with no meaning. Your mindset does not allow you to accept that if Israeli authorities lied, there would be an outcry within Israel. They cannot lie about casualty figures as there are a plethora of Jewish mothers here and these facts cannot be falsified or hidden. Israelis from all sides of the political and social spectrum carefully watch and listen, waiting to pounce on any official that trips. Systems of control and supervision are there to monitor political and military processes - including the media. This does not mean that mistakes aren't made. The world expects Israel to be perfect and to live up to each and every standard that exists, while itself dismally failing to hide its biases and ineptitude in applying the same standards to everyone, especially the Arabs and Muslims. You guys have such a poor record as far as deception and lies are concerned (part of your strategy) that nobody expects any kind of moral behaviour from you any longer.

Israel has its own deads to mourn about, will Hesballa send condolences?

You killed 60 innocent person in Qana..do you hear death child's voices ..Germans killed millions of jewish in 1945...now, İsrael killed arab childs and women..is there any difference? only israel people can stop the war againist children

What the world knows for sure is that when Israel has committed an atrocity it will wheel out its Official Liar to try to spin away the damage this has caused. Lying is what the Israelis do best, other that butchering children.

DOES ANYONE REALLLY BELIEVE THAT THE VILLAGERS HAD A CHOICE OTHER THAM DENY THE HOURS GAP CLAIMED BY THE IDF? THEY HAVE BEEN FORCED INTO COOPERATION WITH THE HEZBOLLA FOR DECADES - HOW LIKELY ARE THEY TO SPEAK FREELY NOW?

To Tell You the truth; and please understand that i am a lebanese who hates Hizbullah more than any israeli ; The Leaders and the IDF In Israel lost the chance of termining hizbullah by their brutal and general assault all over Lebanon and its infrastructure ... No wonder that in the first few days of the assault ... I have no doubt that the full majority of the lebanese were cursing nasrallah for its stupid mistake (i have no doubt that iran or syria pulled the green light for it) even a stupid donkey that had seen what happened to gaza after the kidnapping of the first soldier will relaize that any similar stupid attempt will just bring similar reaction to what happened to Gaza Israel wont bargain anymore ... the rules of the stupid syrian regime had changed ... but no doubt nasrallah is not even lebanese to care for what will happen to lebanon and beside he is not relying at all on any civilized or touristic incomes for his party , i have no doubt that Iran (to be continued)

Thankyou thankyou!!

Of the events of the last week, which one exactly make you ascertain such a claim? The UN post was hit with 4 laser guided bombs dropped by a "highly trained" IAF pilot. You are right on one thing: the UN should have left, they know better then trusting the IAF.

Israel should use tear gas to evacuate towns. Here is why: tear gas does not kill, it just makes life imposssible and residents have to move. The terrorists, who live among the civilians would have to move too. In the move, they lose their weapons and have no access to them. Israel could create a tear gas wall that moves people away from its border. Also sonic weapons. Israel cannot continue bombing, as the world is upset. A non-lethal weapon is needed.

It is the fundmenltalest on both side of this conflict that are destory any hope of peace in the middle east. Israels responds to attacts only make young arabs more angry with the jewish state and the west for supporting them. Arab attacks on isreal do the same. TOO MUCH HATE. True leadership by both polictal and reglisest leaders is needed but all the young are hearing is hate from these so called leader on both side. GROW UP. The solustion is easy, Israel remove your self to the 1949 borader eg get out of the west bank, and dont make it a jail for the people living there, build your wall if needed but dont use it as a land grab. be honable

Why were there very few adult victims in Kfar Kana? The children were proabably volunteered by their parents and hizbollah to become shahidim. Israel bears no responibility for the deaths, hizbolla does.

I've been watching tapes with my very own eyes seeing Hez-E-Bola snuggling up to residential areas and firing its rockets, no doubt aimed at Israeli residential areas. So, what are the Israelies supposed to do? According to the Arab world nothing! It is criminal, Arab's tell us, to target Hez- E-Bola because Lebanese citizens may be killed and maimed. But apparently, its just fine for Israel to let its own citizens be maimed and killed when it can do something about it. All the rage, all of the consensus, all of the histrionics of the Arab street change nothing about the cause of the suffering in Lebanon and its good old Hez-E-Bola. As usual the delusional Arab street blames Israel whom it has been taught and nurtured and paid to hate. Their souls and minds have been bought. Interesting though, despite CNN's report about Lebanese unity, in direct discussion with Lebanese in my city Hez-E-Bola is far from an object of affection.

IDF seems to be putting the right pressure on hzb. Gd luck to them! I do have one question: is it true that so few of our soldiers are getting killed - i read a count by an IDF soldier that the hzb guys are impressively competent on the ground?

I do NOT believe that the Israel Air Force caused the deaths in Qana and it's time that Israel expose the deadly game that Hizballah is playing. Brigadier General Amir Eshel has indicated that he questions why the structure in Qana took 6-7 hours to collapse after that 1:00 AM air strike Sunday morning. Maybe there collapse had nothing to do with the air strike. If not, then what might have happened? A likely answer is Hizballah is fragging their own civilian population as involuntary martyrs. Not children you say....Yes, Hizballah went after the children especially. Framing Israel in the murder of Lebanese children would be considered especially egregious. Western culture has a hard time accepting the extremist/fundamentalist mindset. The West cannot deal with the mindset of the suicide bomber who volunteers for so-called martyrdom, let alone the concept of those who might be recruited for martyrdom against their will. We saw a hint of this the other day when Nasrallah called those children he murdered, by missiles in Nazareth, martyrs. In one public declaration he rationalized away their deaths. It is not such a big step for the same organization to follow-up on the Qana air strike, frag the innocents and blame Israel...after all they would only be martyrs for the same cause as well. We saw this same tactic during the intifadas with the PLO selectively shooting their own and blaming Israel. If an investigation supports that indeed Hizballah ruthlessness was at play in Qana, this would represent an escalation in its own right. Israel must expose Hizballah for what they are. It's a public relations war that cannot be lost.

Could you please go get some sleep, relax then come back and tel us how many UN resolutations issued for Israel to comply with and she never did? This was #1559 but what about all the 1558 other resolutions and as you may know a lot of those were against Israel. Go read please after you get some sleepppppppppppppp.

Are you kidding me, Rachel? Your Lebanese heros are charging poor civilians $500 to escape the danger zones. This is another example of the despicable behavior of your Lebanese brothers. You see, even in your argument against Israel you still manage to make the case for Israel being civil and caring for the innocent civilians while demeaning those very wackos you are defending. Good job, dumbell!!!!! You should work for the impotent UN.

What crime would that be? You must be mistaken, you must have meant Hezbollah should pay for their crimes. Or are you grateful for the threat these bastards pose to the world. If so, you're as bad as they are. Try to align yourself with the good guys, that is Israel, of course. Only they seem to feel badly about the casualties of this war.

I support the IDF and all of Israel. Hezbollah cares nothing for anyone including their own families. If they did, there would be no firing of rockets from villages and cities. Be strong Israel, we are with you 100%!!!

I personally don't care for or respect the UN. Having said that, it seems you do. So you may want to rethink your position about the "alleged claims" as you put it that Hezbollah fights from within and near the civilian population. The UN has emphatically stated that Hezbollah was firing rockets from 10 meters of where they were positioned. Even an enemy like the UN clearly states that this is the reality. Why they did not act on this I have no idea. As far as what you call "political blackmail", here you show your unadulterated stupidity. If the highly esteemed UN (this is a tone of major sarcasm)passed a resolution like 1559, why was this not implemented. How is Israel to blame? The UN only proves it is impotent in every way.

My fellow angeleno: I like the way you think. Unfortunatley, Israel would never behave like their murderous barbaric enemies, the Arabs and Muslims. But it is nice to dream of a world without these uncivilized subhuman parasites.

1st. I think you never fully read 242 2nd. I think you missed the fact that between 242 and now, there has been 1559.

now this wouldn't apply to any of youall... would it? Psychopath: Psychopaths are manipulative, charming, glib, deceptive, parasitic, irresponsible, selfish, callous, promiscuous, impulsive, antisocial, and aggressive individuals who have no concern for the welfare of others, experience little remorse or guilt as a result of their injurious and antisocial behavior, do not tolerate delay of gratification, and persevere despite punishment.

Can you tell me how children & families will leave or run away when your great army bombarded every bridge and every road for escape? How can they trust your army when civilians were bombarded on their way to escape after they told them to leave (In Marwahin). Stop using Hizboulla as an excuse. Those innocent cannot stop Hizboulla and when you kill people in Lebanon what do expect Roses on the North. Eye for an eye is what you deserve. You are turning every child and every adult into Hizboulla. You are the cause of instability in the Middle East. You do not want people to be free. You only want freedom for Israel. If this is defense how do you define Attack

I hope that israel pays for its crime

WE all mourn the civilian casualties in Quana. Last night I was watching on the TV Israeli soldiers leaving N. Israel to attack one of the infamous Lebanon villages the source of their Katousha bombs. One of the soldiers salut the TV reporter and He said in hebrew, "I LOVE YOU MOTHER" This sentance is the real Israeli feeling about the war. They are soldiers and not terrorists, they are conscripts and not volunteers. They are there to protect their country, their parents and their families. Therefore they will win again as allways they did before.

there are civilians in Qana because (if you bothered reading the news every day like anyone affected would) with Israel bombing roads and other infrastructure like bridges, it's impossible to get out of the south. Also, when civilians were told to leave (like two families following each other in separate cars from Marw'ahen in the south) because Israel told them to, when they did, despite tying white flags to their cars, they were wiped out. Also, with Israel bombing fuel storage tanks, there's no gas to drive to Beirut!!! And if there is taxis are now charging about $500 to get a ride to Beirut, so the poor are forced to stay since minmum wage in $200/month and they cannot afford a taxi, or have no car, or have one but cannot find the gas needed, or don't trust Israel to hold true to their suggestions to evacuate as they'll be killed! And that's why there are civilians in Qana. Why do you think Olmert would actually allow 2 days for innocents to leave otherwise?

The slaughter of innocents is not "collateral damage" for Hezballah. It is their prime objective. That is the difference between Israel and the Hezballah. Like Iran, the radical Islamic Fascists do not care how many innocents are destroyed in pursuit of their goal of a renewed caliphate.

It's amazing that Israel constantly apologizes when it mistakenly kills innocent people, who are caught up in this horrific war, caused by these Arab terrorists. Not once have I heard or read one word where the Palistinians, Lebanese, or for that matter actually not one Arab ever expresses regret when Israeli, American or British, innocents are murdered purposely by terrorists. Instead they give out candy to their children and encourage them to blow themselves up for their cause.

Two days ago, I could tell you that the United States was dedicated to preventing any cease-fire resolution from passing either the UN or any other world conference. Indeed, it had done just that in both cases last week. Then the House of Saud told George Bush what he had to kiss, and how fast. Suddenly the whole game changed. Now the US is eager for a peace. Olmert has no choice. He squandered his 3 weeks on pusillanimous folly. Game over, he lost it for Israel.

I am so disappointed with this breed....!! Murder, Killings, rapes and in the stupid name of religion...and the same reason have been used for thousands of years.... If peace can be achieved through killings? we will ask this question when the kids of these so called terrorrists grow up.... The only way to end this is to kill all 1 billion muslims and then there we will find another reason to fight...because these muslims are recent beginnings we have been fighting for thousands of years without any peace....We will have o kill the christians as well and then we can sort out our own differences between jews and what are we going to do with the hindus and all those other religions...????? Lets kill and celebrate humanity!!!!

Why were there still civilians in Qana? Easy. Anyone trying to escape was subject to attack from the air. The mass graves of Lebanon are full of people who took the instructions in Israel's leaflets to heart.

Can we all be honest with each other for once? Few people in the Arab world really care how many Jewish children are killed in bombings and they certainly don't care how many Jewish men and women are killed by Hesbollah rockets. How then should the world care how many Arab (Muslim) children are killed? Why don't we study history and learn that this conflict (war) will never be settled until one side is completely defeated and the defeated side admits it. Japan didn't surrender until they had no other option. Germany did not surrender until they had no other option. It is probably time for the war to go on and all of you hipocrates (Jewish and Arab) stop acting like you care about each others children. When your children are at risk, you will kill as many of the other sides children as possible first.

Fighting has been going on for about a week. In similar circumstances -- even without the leaflets, and even phone calls -- civilians generally try to clear out of a combat zone. The people in Qana say they are too frightened to risk taking to the roads. But I've only heard of the IAF striking large trucks suspected of carrying missiles. Even in worse circumstances, civilians usually try to flee, even if they must try it at night. It's a puzzle why the civilians in Qana would risk themselves and their children. Could they desire to gain heaven by staying?

What Olmert is doing is not only a barbaric act but above all a stupid reaction. Before Cana, all lebanese (but the shea)were still angry and against hizbullah, especially lebanese druze and christians. But today, all lebanese are with hizbullah.And hizbullah is much stronger militarly and moraly in Lebanon. So logicaly there are 2 conclusions: - Olmert has some incapacity when it comes to political reasoning (à la Bush). -Or Olmert has made up a certain deal with hizbullah by powering them in this last battle so they can calm it later once and for all. Pleaze Vote

The fact of the matter is, Israeli soliders shoot Palestinians, not necessariliy touching their blood, but instead stand next to the wounded and wait for them to bleed to death. It's simply an IOF pattern to let the wounded Palestinians suffer and prevent emergency medical aid.

This is not the first time that Israeli?s have committed horrendous Crime. Remember the genocide in Sabra and Shatila. That was also massacre of innocent people in Lebanon. There will be more as long as Israel continues to legitimize itself by terror and blood shed.

Dutch, We would still be fighting Germany and Japan if they were able to hide behind the civilians like the terrorists do. The world should hold the terrorists responsible for civilian deaths that occur while they use them for human shields. Why is there not the severe outcry among the world as well as the Muslim world when Jewish, English, Spanish, Phillipino, Sudanese, Indonesian Christians, Russian, American, Somalian non Muslim, or any other non Muslim innocent women and children are killed by Muslim terrorists. Do you think that there is alot of Arab money paid to news organizations and various govts. and U.N. personnel to keep it low key when a Muslim is responsible for a horrific slaughter of innocents?

Does Hizbollah drop warning leaflets? No, they send suicide bombers to target women and children. They send rockets into cities to target women and children. Who glorifies the bloodshed as a matter of cultural pride? No one is without guilt but understand who is perpetrating the violence and why. When you understand Hizbollah's stated purpose the events begin to fit the puzzle.

The 48 hours is a cessation of aerial bombardment in South Lebanon only and Israel reserved the right during that time to strike back at missle launches. So, the artilary barrages continue and the IAF is claiming the right to continue to operate in the rest of Lebanon including the south if missles are fired from there. So, I think that Israel is clearly fighting back.

If this is the case then let the investigation prove it, but I think that your government already knows what happens hence the reason that they have apologized.

Ilana, So look at these graphics and tell me which are Hezbollah so that we can be justified in having killed them http://board5.cgiworld.dreamwiz.com/view.cgi?id=gore&now=1&jd=-1&ino=1337&tmp_no=1547

UN 1559 was adopted way after UN 242 and 338. So Israel has had far more time to implement those resolutions. Second Israel has had far more means than Lebanon as Israel has a significant standing army and Lebanon has just some out of a civil war and was freed of Israeil occupation in 2000 and Syrian occupation in 2005. Hence the reason that 1559 has yet to be implemented. So, why has 242 and 338 not been implemented?

First comes the IDF claim that the building was struck at around midnight, but the explosion which collapsed the building and killed so many only occurred at around 8 AM. Who and what caused that latter explosion? The locals are said to have "corroborated the IDF claim", but then the story talks of a 1 AM bombardment and of a second IAF strike "a few minutes later" - which collapsed the structure. Next Arab media is accused of distorting the sequence. Clearly it is Yuval Azoulay, Yoav Stern, Amos Harel, and the Haaretz Staff who who have not given a clear picture of what happened, or at least of the various allegations. Perhaps, because too many cooks spoil the stew. Ha'aretz, how about less ideology and more journalism.

Hizballah are lebanese, and they are defending their country, Lebanese and only lebanese can decide what hizballah should be a political group, or an army or anything.. this is a pure lebanese issue.Moreover i think that who should be kicked from lebanon are all the non-lebanese who is conquering our lands without the lebanese permission, if u still dont know there is limits between countries and israel is depassing it limits beyond Chabaa farms,and they were beyond these farms in 1996 but thanks to hizballah who makes them go back.

Yes, Hezbollah targets civilians, most of whom military trained foreigners who came to Palestine with the clear purpose of throwing the people out and occupying their lands (I recall: Israel IS the occupation). On the other side, the IDF is targeting civilians, most of them original inhabitants who are terrorized, and forced to become refugees, losing their homes and goods in the way if not their lives and families.

When you get in the pig pen to fight the terrorists you are going to get dirty. The terrorist are intentionally shooting at our cities. They murder and abduct people. They deploy their rocket launcher in the proximity of UNIFIL (see report on email from Canadian who died in the attack) and from civilian buildings. Hebollah strategy is: 1. If they can shoot from behind civilian/UN and Israel doesn't shoots back, they win. 2. If Israel shoots back, they will hit UN and/or civilians and they exploit the damage that they are responsible for against Israel. It is too easy to fall prey to this immoral terrorist exploitation of other's excess morality. If they continue to deploy amongst citizens then the responsibility of all deaths belongs to Hezbollah and not Israel.

It must have been one of your Jewish relatives that said in 1932 that this Nazi thing will blow over. Yes it is a shame about the deaths in Qana but it is also a shame about the unguided K rockets that Hizbollah has fired at civilian targets from Qana loaded with anti personel ball bearings. We Jews would like to believe we are better then the terrorists but even we cannot control the fog of war. It seems the Islamofacists have more solidarity then we Jews.

It appears that Muslim life is worth more than non Muslims. Where has the outcry world wide or in the Muslim world when rockets are sent to kill civilians in Israel. Where is the outcry just in the Muslim world when innocents are killed on trains by Muslims. How about the horrific slaghter that happened in Russia with school children. I don't remember the outcry being as loud and angry as the one that just happened in Lebonon. I guess it is only acceptable if Muslims attack and kill civilians.

What r u talking about?do u realy think that Hizballah are terrorists and can do such things hit their own people??open u r eyes all the lebanese are with them, they r risng the picture of nasrallah all over the world... did anybody raised the pic of bin ladden for example, sure not! i just want to inform u that hizballah called for the cease of fire from the first day and all the world did it (The Us refused they r the cause of all these masacres)and this caused the killing of more than 700 CIVILIANS (who are the criminals now) i just want to inform u that its Israel who is in the lebanese lands and they had lebanses hostages from 20 years, Hizballah are just defending their country... if they werent here from the begining, nothing of these wars would happened.u have to read more history

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You don't like Olmert? Maybe you have forgotten all the children TRAGETED in Israel????? What are you proud of?

I checked Le Monde and Le Figaro, two respectable French newspapers: both quoted the doubts of the IAF concerning the 7 hours gap between the bombing in Qana and the collapse of the building killing some 50 civilians. I checked the BBC: not a word. Maybe the BBC tells half truth because half (or more)of their budget is paid by the British tax payers?

Olmert and Peretz say they need another 2 weeks for success. Thus far Israel has succeeded in pushing the Lebanese PM and many moderates to Hezbollah. Israel is succeeding in transforming Narallah into a modern-day Salah al-Din. Irael has succeeded in garnering universal condemnation. Israel is close to succeeding in igniting a regional, possibly world-wide, conflagration of biblical proportions. How much more success can Israel take?

Well least we agree that the British didn't take their responsibilities during the Mandate seriously...most of the problem today was created by the "Allies of WWI.) However, as far as leaflets being accurate, check Ebay they have everything...

Maybe you should actually learn history instead of spouting out lies. Since the advent of Islam millions of Jews have been simply killed to promote the "will of Allah" and establish the moral high ground for Islam...(oops) Well, maybe this will prove it...all the wars against Israel were promoted in the name of Islam and the Arab people...(oops)...I guess history is trickier than you thought...

Your'e bacally arguing moral equivalence. So why the focus on Israel? Why are Israel's actions those to be exclusively condemned? What about Jihadists who openly claim their desire to slaughter civilians? Israelis confront the "bitter truth" every day, with a free press and national soul-searching regarding casualties on the other side. Look sincerely at both sides, tactics and strategy.

Maybe the real moral issue is this Rabbi Lazaros: If you live in a society that promotes hate, instill it in your children, never create social systems to support the poor and needy (unless you need them as human pawns), and justify your actions by the will of Allah you deserve what you get. As the Talmud says,"Choose your friends carefully lest you be a victim of self-hatred..."

Maybe the real moral issue is this Rabbi Lazaros: If you live in a society that promotes hate, instill it in your children, never create social systems to support the poor and needy (unless you need them as human pawns), and justify your actions by the will of Allah you deserve what you get. As the Talmud says,"Choose your friends carefully lest you be a victim of self-hatred..."

Rabbi, its not a 48 hour cease fire. Its a limited term cease in air operations. The quid pro quo is a cease in Hezbollah Rocket attacks. If they are smart Hezbollah, who no doubt studied their forced slaughter of their own civilians will quit while they are ahead. Due to our own slowness to take advantage of Hezbollah's mistake they are ahead. Ground operations will undoubtedly continue and full air operaions will resume the instant the IDf radar systems detect new attacks. Maybe the IDF will wait for the news reports of the first round of attacks before they retaliate. I hope not. The other side started this and are responsible for every single innocent death. Its time we finished it with overwhelming force. shmuel

Be careful Israel, Iran has you in it's sights, may God protect you and keep you in this time of war. DEFEND ISRAEL !!!!!

open your eyes WORSE THAN THAT,SOMETHING I CAN NOW STILL SEE AS IF IT WAS YESTERDAY.THE BASTARD JUST SHOWED HIS HANDS DEEPED IN THE BLOOD OF OUR POOR INNOCENTS WHO LOST THEIR WAY AND WERE THERE ACIDENTLY. BASTARDS ALL,AND I MEAN ALL!!!

54 people were in the building 4 stroreys basement ? We don`t think that there could be so many people in the basement of 4 storey building. IDF was correct to say that a building fell 6 hours after the near by hit. The building was destroyed by Katiusha or self detonated Katiusha or explosives on the top floor of that building . The signs of which the Lebanese try so hard to hide.A lot of dead from the local morgue were used to hipe the situation.THe local morgue was just a street away.

I can understand and empathize, like you, with the grievances of Palestinians and Lebanese. Groups like Hizbollah, however, have no empathy for civilians on the other side. They've sent over two thousand missiles in the last two weeks at civilian targets. Believe me, I live here. The deadliest rocket killed eight civilians. Suppose each had killed one or two. That would be 2000 to 3000 civilian deaths. Hizbollah would not be grieving. As you may have seen, one Hizbollah rocket killed two Arab children in Nazareth. Nasrallah, apologizing, bestowed upon the children post-mortem status of martyrs (shaheedim)in his Islamic Jihad. Let's go back a little further - to the war between Iraq and Khomenei's Iran (Hizbollah sponsor). As the conflict deepened both sides targeted the enemy's civilian population with rockets. No UN sanction was applied. This is not justification for an Israeli mistake. This is clarification. Terrorists, by self-definition, target civilians. The Israeli army does not.

I have two questions about the 48 hour ceasefire which the US just imposed on the IAF: 1.Will Hizbollah be required to also halt its rocket attacks for the next 48 hours? Or is it just the Jews who are not allowed to fight back? 2. How many rockets will Hizbollah smuggle into Lebanon during the next 48 hours?

Terrorists started this whole swequence of events and are responsible of the deaths and injuries on both sides PERIOD! Terrorists have a policy of attacking civilians and murdering and kidnapping. Israel avoids civilian casualties and warns them of impending operations. Approximately 150 rockets were fired into the State of Israel from Qana at civilian targets. Terrorists and their supporters dance in the streets at the death of civilians. I do NOT see Israelis dancing... I see them grieving. Watching the infrared video I see rockets, aimed at civilians in Israel, launched from close promity to the building. I am also skeptical of a building collapse 7-8 hours after a strike and especially when others were able to leave the building. I would not put it past terrorists to murder women and children (who they commonly hide behind) to launch a propaganda attack on Israel. Who do you trust? Terrorists or Israel? I trust Israel and not murderers and kidnappers.

If the first raid occured at midnight, when did the rockets get fired? half hour before? an hour???. Reporters in the past days have claimed that Hezbollah fired rockets during the day, not at night for fear of being discovered. If they changed tactics, then they would not have had time to escape.So how come CNN crew on the scene could not find any tubes, rockets or military gear.Just 10 buildings completely flattened? Did any rocket fall on Israel that evening? or did the IAF wait till midnight to make sure that every body is asleep for maximum body count? Perez talk about two more weeks, and I am sure that 2 weeks down the road, the rockets will still be landing in Israel. Every retired general interviewed on CNN said, the only way to deal a direct blow to Hezbollah is to have boots on the ground.

You sprout your racist, juvenile bile. You support the murder of women and children. You're small minded, ignorant and uneducated enough to believe every peice of propaganda fed to you and yet you believe I'm the barbaric beast? Your knowledge of what happened in Qana so deep and well read that you think bullets were involved. Such ignorance doesnt deserve to be allowed to air. Tell you what, when the IDF stops "strategically withdrawing" from one village after another, we will see who's still standing.

WILL HAVE TO CLEAR THE MESS THEY CREATE.THEY HAVE KILLED KILLED THEIR CIVILIANS AND ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS MURDER THEY COMMITTED! OPERATING AMONG THE CIVILIANS IS THE RESULTING CONSEQUENCE. NOT,REPEAT NOT THE ISRAELIS FAULT. IF YOU LIVE WITH A RABID DOG YOU WAKE UP DEAD.THAT IS IT...

It's the same blood libel all over again. Nobody cares about the Israeli victims of Hezbollah & Hamas missiles, but everybody is jumping up and down eager to accuse Jews whether or not there's any evidence or not.

Then God is cursing the Hezbuddies. By hiding among civilians during war, these guys are the ones causing this. They need to be men and go out to battle away from the towns and cities.

Unless Barcochva is your real name, you display already strange logic in your name and address: when Masada fell, Bar Kokhba wasn't born yet. You do not provide any justification for the killing of hundreds and hundreds of civilians in revenge for one raid on the IDF killing 8 and capturing 2 soldiers. Or is it that you think Jewish life is more precious than that of others? A theme that is very common among many posters here. I'd say, then, look up the word "Uebermensch" in the dictionary. As for the claim "your ancestors murdered mine" - I've become immune to this endless holocaust blackmailing. When you cry wolf too often, people don't listen anymore.

Israeli didn't target the UN post. Hizbollah and other terrorist groups target civilians as a matter of principle. Which approach do you prefer?

Please not another IDF investigation. They barely can't follow with the cover up after all those accidents. Ever tried an independent investigation?! It would actually improve the IDF situation when for once the proper conclusions are drawn.

To all who think its alright to kill innocents because the enemies of Israel do it too, I say that it is not peace you seek but vengeance. You are unworthy of the legacy of your ancestors. Never again.

Please, let's consider current affairs. What exactly is the difference between launching Katyushas into civilian population centers in Israel and the IAF bombing population centers in south Beirut, Tyre, Sidon and Tripoli? Israel?s IDF has fired thousands of shells into south Lebanon villages, alleging that Hezbollah men are concealed among the civilian population. Worse yet, bombing infrastructure targets such as power stations, bridges and other civil facilities turns the entire Lebanese civilian population into a victim and hostage, even if Israel?s IDF are not physically harming civilians. The use of bombings to achieve a diplomatic goal - namely, coercing the Lebanese government into implementing UNSCR 1559 - is an attempt at political blackmail, and no less than the kidnapping of 2 IDF soldiers by Hezbollah is the aim of bringing about a prisoner exchange. There is a propaganda aspect to this war, and it involves a competition as to who is more miserable. Each side tries to persuade the world that it is more miserable. As in every propaganda campaign, the use of information is selective, distorted and self-righteous. If Israel wants to base its information (or shall we call it propaganda?) policy on the assumption that the international environment is going to buy the dubious merchandise that it?s selling, be it out of ignorance or hypocrisy, then fine. But in terms of Israel?s own national soul searching, Israelis owe themselves to confront the bitter truth - maybe they will win this conflict on the military field, maybe they will make some diplomatic gains, but on the moral plane, Israelis have no advantage, and Israelis have no special status.

Your claim about the dropping leaflets reminds me of the bombing of the King David Hotel. Irgun claimed it had forewarned the English with an anonymous phonecall. However, such phone calls were so frequent and most of the time fake warnings, that the English didn't take them serious anymore. So I wonder how accurate the leaflet dropping was. We have seen the accuracy of the IAF mainly with regard to targetting Red Cross ambulances, streets with fleeing citizens, and civillian buildings.

Something to keep in mind, the economy of Israel is being affected by this war, more than most people thought would happen...Do you really think that Israel can stand by and play this cease fire role..to fit the likes of CNN, terrorist lovers for much longer? What is coming is an all out war that will kill 10,000 +...all over the Middle East...and if Iran and Syria are not carefull...there will be some mushrooms over their cities and that will have nothing to do with adding flavor to their pita and humus! Israel has not been making matzah balls in Dimona for this reason...THE was is coming folks..we better get ready for this...What is the point? Unless the West is willing to commit mass murder, (sad to say) our civilization will lose this war...The arabs think in terms of years and years...We just dont get it! Come to think of it...Assar blew it..If he had accepted the terms with Barak, right now Israel would be getting rockets from the West Bank as well...They were just to greedy!

You are somewhat right. The only ones who voice any regret about killing children are the Israelis,definitely not the people who call themselves Palistinians. They only rejoice, as was documented after 9/11. They were taped dancing in the streets and celebrating. When have you ever seen Israeli's dance in the street gleefully at the death of any innocent people. Jews may get angry, but they don't go out on a killing spree. Only Muslims do that. Like what recently happened in the USA in Seattle.

Why don't we start at the beginning and the 1967 UN resolution /Israel has to give back the occupied territories.If you give a chance to the people to have decent life they will not need the Hezzoballh or the Hamas.Speking of terrorists what is the difference beetween /The Mossad, Hamas, Hezzobollh, The Ira, The Wietcong etc..They were or are all terrosists organization, but in the end when you want peace you have to seat at the table and talk. The irony of this war is The Us is giving arms to the Israelis, and now to the Lebanese army , so they can fight and meantime the us armement is making money . Is such an hypocrisy .War is not the solution, you just end up with a lot of hate on both side.Fanny

Dolly, Don't waste your intelect on this human turd. what Israel must do immediately is: 1. totally re-occupy Gaza and clean it out of al arabs. don't leave a single one there. Move them to Lebanona or Sinai anywhere else outside Eretz Israel. 2. Enact the Death Penalty, immediately Make it applicable to anyone out of uniform found inside Israel without a permit--its espionage in a war. thjere is no Geneva applicable. 3. Arrest all protesters and peace activiswts 4. forget about arab democracy--see how Hamas came to power? 5. Declare a state of WAR on any Arab organization/country who advocate eliminating Israel, or harbors them. That includes Syria and Iran, Hezbola and Hamas, the PA and the El aqsa martyrs. They are at WAR with you and have stated so openlhy. 6. state that any country who is not with you is against you.

I see how broken up and flipant you are about the loss of your "innocent women and children" You have no animosity towards Hezbollah who actually put the bullet in each and every one of those kids heads. But that is par for the course, you barbaric beast. Good for you that you think Hezbollah is winning. Let's see who is the last one standing. Don't count on it being the Arab.

War is hell. Innocent people get killed even when intentions are good (as are the intentions of Israel). The Un observers should have "OBSERVED" the danger and gotten the hell out of there. Israel would "NEVER, NEVER, NEVER" have intentionally targeted them. Why would they, so the world could continue to condemn them? The IDF is much too smart for that. sorry for your loss.

to: Dolly... please stop the 4th grade analogies So you began your response to Dolly. Living in Northern Israel, experiencing the indiscriminate Hizbollah rocket attacks for two weeks and more, I've also tried to think of analogies that seem to illustrate the dynamic of this war. So listen to this analogy, and remember neither side in the fighting here is children. My analogy: You are continually threatened by your neighbour- he declares he will annihilate you at every opportunity. He also declares that you have no power to stop this. He is supported by a few others in the neighborhood that claim their willingness to assist him in carrying the aim of your- and your family's- destruction. One day, after a year of threats, he kidnaps two of your sons, and fires gunshots into your home. He tells the community he'll release your sons if you transfer to him part of your yard, and release murderers. What do you do?

Let's hope this guy who claims to be a JEW is sterile and impotent so he cannot reproduce imbeciles like he is. Don't worry, there are more of us who believe in good vs evil and Israel vs Hezbollah and terrorism. Long live the state of Israel. Am Yisroel Chai!

I assure you, I am not a coward. You wrote: "I`d like to know what you would do after an arab broke into your house and killed your wife and young children." I'd fight back. And if I was an Arab, and a Jew did the same to me, I'd again fight back...(regardless of whether or not the attackers had assured me that it was both a "surgical" strike and a "tragic accident" and that, besides, it was my fault for not leaving my house to begin with). You also wrote: "Thats what they are doing all over Israel" Really? Then why doesn't Ha'aretz report about this ongoing phenomenon, if it's happening all the time? Lastly, you wrote: "You are not a man nor a Jew nor human being nor even an animal. even animaqls protect their young." I suppose I'm an "insect," then? Maybe a "cancer"? Funny, the last time someone said something like this to me, he wasn't a Jew, and he was wearing jackboots. What kind of shoes are you wearing, friend?

when Hezabola sends murderers accross your doorstep, kills an entire family,men women and children you capture the perpretator and jail him for life, the Hezbola crosses your border, kills 8 more of your close friends and relatives and kidnaps 2 to exchange for the murderer. What would you do Mr Hypocrite? I am represwentative of the judaic Faith. what faith do you represent? why don't you sermonize the islamonazis, don't sermonize us Jews. You have no moral standing here. your ancestors murdered mine. Before the crusades, during the crusades after the crusades during the enligtenment, after thye enlightenment , during WWII. I*(f you must lecture go and lecture Iran, syria, Saudi arabioa, Iraq, egypt, Pakistan, India, Malaysia... there are plenty of targets. but you have no courage --none you are the basest of cowards.

What is it you are implying? I am a Jewish US citizen who lives and works in the private sector.

Just ONE goyim with guts to expalin what it is exactly about the Jew that makes them salivate and get so smug when the Jew makes an apology?? Israel needs to STOP apoligizing for hitting targets set up by Hezbollah with civilians to shield their nasty blood-thirsty bodies! What a sickness! Israel is fighting for its survival and everyone looking for a stray bullet, a soldier with his hat on sideways or dust on the tanks! Get a grip on reality before you face the same terrorists, many of whom are NOT wearing identifiable uniforms. They look like INNOCENT CIVILIANS!

what if hezbola bombed the building hours after the airforce hit it, so as to make it collapse?

I remeber too well! Canadians with the UN are as guilty as the Hezbola themselves--for aiding and a betting t5he murder of 8 soldiers, kidnapping of 2, firing thousands of rockets killing inocent peaceloving civilians & destroying infrastructure in Israel. Cnada should be called to account for the imoral and ihumane behavior of their citizens under the UN flag. The UN must be taken to the world court for perfidious abetting Islamonazi killers of Jews in their own homes. God wants an answer! The deaqd Jewish children want answers. I want to know why the allies didn't knock out the creamatoria in WWII, but istead gave lip sertvice to bring the perpe trators to justice. Some Justice! some friends! some Moralists! Some Humanitarians! Hypocrites and Jew child murderers you are all. Prove otherwise by standing with Israel, there is no just other side. Do you hear me Israel? Do not harken to that hypocritical siren call of justice, morality and humanity; they only apply it to you J

Acually dear It is the ISRAELI's who believe their lives are more precious and worthy. Gods CHOSEN and all......... I rarely hear much sympathy for Palestinian children, or any Arab children. Israel usually says, well it just got rid of a future terrorists. Israel is not a victim. The self rightous arrogance of being Gods chosen and allowed to do anything because they're on "gods mission' doesn't sit well with many. The christian right here cares about israeli children. I personally care about all children, and what Israeli children are suffering is just as bad as any other nations kids suffering. It needs to stop.....now.

I copied your words facts The Hezzbolla should be kicked out of Lebanon. It has no right to invade a sovereign country and indiscriminate attack a civilian pop- ulation and destroy their infrastructure-that`s collective punishment under the Fourth Geneva Convention. How can those Islaqmic and European hypocrites complain about Israel's failure to to comply with UN Security Council Resolution 242 when they didn't disarm Hezbollah under UN Security Council Resolution 1599 when they use the Palestinian territories to bombard and murder inocent Jewish men women and children? What hypocrites! Dutch

I would have preferred that you not ID yourself as a Jew. We, as a nation, are sorry to hear you are of the Jewish faith. But your ignorance definitely comes to light in your opinions. The fact that you believe there is a legitimate place known as Palestine shows you are a true idiot. When you analyze the Mideast conflict in a comparison between two children playing also reveals your juvenile attitude about ADULT and serious matters. The conflict between Israel and its uncivilized Arab neighbors would have been resolved, peacefully, long ago if it were up to Israeli. Do you happen to remember who left the Gaza area for peace in the area? Do you happen to remember who left the northern border of Lebanon in 2000? Not your Arab friends that's for sure. You definitely need to grow up and realize who is the true aggressor. You don't fight a war to be equal but to win. In this case, Israel must win so that idiot Jews like you can live free, and be free to voice their dumb ideas.

You charge "when the oppressed become oppressors..." Are you, per chance, referring to the Arabs, who after shucking off the yoke of imperiliast oppression (British, French, Italian) turned around and oppressed the Kurds, Assyrians, Berbers, Copts, and Middle Eastern Jews? The formerly oppressed Arabs proceeded to ethnically cleanse nearly all indigenous Middle Eastern Jews, who now are the majority in Israel. Becareful how you weild that accusation, habibi; it cuts your way too.

You are a coward an apeaser and a hypocrite. I'd like to know what you would do after an arab broke into your house and killed your wife and young children. Thats what they are doing all over Israel You are not a man nor a Jew nor human being nor even an animal. even animaqls protect their young. I spit in your face

Like you, I am quite appalled about what happened in Qana, and I am grieving terribly. But, unlike you I can't pin principal cupability on Israel. That belongs to Hezbollah. There is documented evidence of Hezbollah firing rockets from within Qana and other Lebanese villages and cities. The firing takes place next to private homes, and the storing of the munitions is in these homes, thus Hezbollah is using civilians as human shields by turning their towns into battle zones. Please don't rush to judgment. Hezbollah started this war, is using human shields to its p.r. advantage. This is a war crime. Bear in mind, Hezbollah is firing at civilian targets in Israel. Not at IDF bases, which are far from residential areas. They could easily target these bases, but don't. Shouldn't your moral outrage be directed at Hezbollah? If you are a pro-Israel activist, then you know the way the double standard works, so please don't be swept up into the anti-Israel bandwagon.

Now we know why its so hard for the IDF to take the border villages. They're not defended by old women and disabled children. Saying that, maybe if they had arms they could kick IDF butt as easily as Hizbollah has so far.

Olmert is not justifying the killing of children- he is justifying the protection of the Israeli citizens by going after enemy targets and their vicinity. Hezbollah and the Arab countries are the ones who justify the killing of children, by praising the suicide bombers or blaming it on Israel. No condemnations or voices of apology come from them. Just look at the two countries, one where the citizens brake into the UN and chant death songs, the other just trying to survive. But I guess the media doesn't care for the Israeli side, why else are 9 out of every 10 articles about Lebanon?

If you are4 warned to evacuate or die and you stay put, you die. Where is the surprise? If someone says they'll kill you, you better kill them first. That is a no-brainer. The sad truth is if this were a building in Israel and all the dead were Israeli, the world would say, "they deserved it". Never has there been an outcry for Israeli deaths. Only Arabs. It's as if Jewish life is worthless.

The building was knocked down intentionally by a Hezbola rocket salvo. Kofi Annan should ask Hezbola, Syria and Lebanon for a full accounting of this inhumane act by thye Islamists.Condi Rice doesn't need to go to Lebanon or anywhere else. If the USA wants to join the hypocrits and condemn let it do so without pretending friendship to Israel. Remember the Eisenhower administration--" we are netral in word though and deed". The US must act by providing total support, including action by army airforce and navy on Syria. That'll isolate Iran.]The UN Security Council miust totally condemn Hezbola, Lebanon, Syria and Iran-exonerating Israel. If not they deserve eternal damnation in Hell--and speedily. Israel must immediately institute death penalties for islamic murderers of peacful Jewish men women and children. They are feasting on Jewish food, live in comfortable Israeli prisons. They cross our borders kidnap and murder. They fatten on our blood and drink our tears. Death to them all!!

Forget about democracy--Israel is nothing but a Jewmocracy rather it is a massacarocracy Shalom

Those 2 posting were either typed in by the same "Israeli" or the IDF "Golani" psycological warfare Brigade is really active and "brave" in here-- instead of the battlefield. Shalom

how do u explain the killing of 4 UN soldiers ??? one of them is a canadian citizen ....to let u know...canadian people is so mad at you israel !!

"Proud Grandpa," Olmert is not justifying the killing of children. If that is your take, your cognitive comprehension skills are quite poor. Rather, Olmert did, for the most part, the right thing. The killing of innocents is always a tragedy--and he said that. However, both the motive and cause need to be considered. Israel (and Olmert) did not intend to kill innocents. Hezbollah, on the other hand, did and does. The empirical evidence (the aerial videos) in this case is quite compelling. It shows that a building in the immediate vicinity of the building was used to harbor a rocket launcher. Hezbollah is thus to blame for hidding such weapons in a civilian area. (Where is your condemnation of their actions?) Finally, why is that nearly all the victims were "women and children both very young and very old?" Where were the men? Could it be that they are Hezbollah who bring their "work home with them?"

I can understand how Israel's military actions make it difficult for you to continue to support its policies and I think you're not alone in this. No-one more than Israelis themselves question the wisdom of this or that action by their elected government. However, I can't help but think that were you to be living in Haifa or in Kiryat Shemona and not somewhere in the USA, your condemnation of Israel may be tempered somewhat. Think about your life, add 120-150 rockets a day falling randomly on your city (and I do mean randomly) with 30 seconds warning if at all, and you may see my point.

Dear proud Grandpa, you may go and kiss the hand of "the greatest kids lover" hisbulah leader, whose hands are " clean" and smells of candies and chocolate only!

Yes, Israel has a self-serving goal. It's called "SURVIVAL." What is the goal of the terrrorists who have been suicide bombing Israel for the last several years? What is the goal of Hamas, Al Quaeda, and Hezbollah? To FORCE everyone in the world to suffer under Islamic rule. And SUFFERING is the only word for it.

No Rabbi, the Israelis provoked this war and they are the ones who have murdered over 140 Palestinians since they invaded Gaza in June and have murdered 600 civilians in Lebanon to date and destoyed their lovely cities. What bullies! In addtion, the vital stats for the last five years show the Israeli Army murdered four Palestinians for every Israeli murdered. Thus the data shows the Israelis are the real murderers in this conflict. Dutch

Any lebanese seeking the destruction of Lebanon for the sake of tourism is nothing but a fake lebanese who is really residing in wonderland or perhaps Israel. Those who believes that person are bigger idiots.

The horible and tragic footage I saw on tv is not to blame to the IDF. This is the true face of terror called Hizbollah. They hide themselfs behind civilians, using populated area where they can launch there rockets.Israel must stand fast and continue until the mission is accomplished.

AND THE PEOPLE WERE TOLD TO EVCACUATE NEW ORLEANS TOO BUT NOT ALL DID IN TIME OR DID NOT HAVE THE MEANS TO DO. THE ONES IN QANA WHO WERE KILLED AND WOUNDED TODAY, DID NOT HAVE THE MEANS TO LEAVE AND DID NOT WANT TO TAKE THEIR CHANCES ON THE ROAD AFTER SO MANY VEHICLES (INCLUDING AMBULANCES) HAD BEEN HIT BY ISRAELI ATTACK HELICOPTERS.

Isn't it ironic that when Israel kills civilians, it expresses deep sorrow and regret but when the Hezbollah terrorists do, they exult with joy at the "success" of their mission? And yet so many in the world couldn't care less. They ignore how this all started, deny Israel the right of self-defense, or protest its doing so as "disproportionate."

The Israeli Army should be kicked out of Lebanon. It has no right to invade a sovereign country and indiscriminate attack a civilian pop- ulation and destroy their infrastructure-that's collective punishment under the Fourth Geneva Convention. How can those Israelis hypocrites complain about Lebanon's failure to disarm Hezbollah under UN Security Council Resolution 1599 when they have failed to comply with UN Security Council Resolution 242 to pull out of the Palestinian territories? What hypocrites! Dutch

GOD CURSE THOSE WHO ALLOW AND BRING THIS DESTRUCTION ON LEBANON.

True or false: Two children are playing in a sandbox and they begin to quarrel. One child throws sand in the eye of the other child, which hurts. So the second child grabs a baseball bat and begins viciously beating the other child over the head, causing heavy bleeding and skull fractures. However, the first child still tries (vainly) to fight back, so he deserves the vicious, disporportionate beating. If you answer "true", I feel sorry for you. If you believe this -- repeating hollow slogans about "moral accountability" that few third party observers can or will accept -- then you are the amoral one, and may G-d help you. BTW, by your own logic, Israelis deserve to die in their own country when they are warned to leave "Palestine," but do not. For example, by your logic, when a settler is threatened with death, and does not leave Hebron, he is a legitimate target when snipers start raining bullets on his house. Right? After all, he was "warned to leave," yes? Come off it.

With everyday that passes in this horrible conflict i read some more amazing things. Israel is redefining morality and humanity. First you steal their land, jail those complain, plant mines across their land, burn their farms, bomb their children and blame them for all of it. Something is terribly wrong with the world.

Neither, simply incompetent. Olmert may think he is going to savage Lebanon for another two weeks, but then didn't he think it would only take a week or two at the start? The Bush Junta has been threatened by Saudi Arabia. They cannot be counted upon to prop up Olmert much longer. Mr. Olmert better get serious about this war and move rapidly and with the full force of the IDF up to the Litani River; or he should cut his losses and agree to the Lebanese offer.

Lebanon needs more sensible people like yourself. It sounds like you REALLY want to co-exist together in peace. Let's pray this can be done soon.

To quote Sidney Zion: "Israel is the only country that produces stupid Jews.". I am embarrased by the way the security cabinet is prosecuting this war. Where is Sharon when you need him? I expect the Omert government to fall when this is all over.

When Hezbollah captures a couple of Israeli soldiers, Israel may retaliate by killing women and children - and you call Hezbollah the murderers! That's like when I punch you, you kill all my colleagues and call me the murderer. Is this Judaic logic and morals? Some kind of religion... I sincerely hope you are not representative of the Judaic faith.

Good to see you actually admit that Hezbollah does fight a dirty war, behind the skirts of their women and children, rather than like a soldier. Good to see you Admit they are cowards. They place no value on human life whether it is soldier or woman or child. That's a major difference with the Israeli fighter. Every living person is valuable to them!!

No candies either? of course not this is Lebanon not New York or Tel Aviv. The Arabs only show their joy and happiness when they can kill innocents Americans and Israelis but they can shure put on the theatrics and scream all over the world for sympathy when somebody hits back. Sorry for the kids but as far as the bombing, CONTINUE AT FULL BORE.

Israelis can no longer claim that "moral equivalency" between the IDF/IAF and Hezbollah rockets is "reprehensible"... No one buys that line anymore. And Israelis have no one to blame but themselves. I am a dedicated supporter of Israel --I spent years combatting the anti-Zionist campaign on college campuses in the USA-- but I can no longer stomach defending Israel. Israelis don't seem to care that they are feeding the Islamist victim mentality, which is the lifeblood of their extremism. Every IAF bomb (that brings a building down on an entire family, or 30 kids) justifies the warped Islamist view of the world. Don't Israelis understand that when they kill so wantonly, many of their supporters abroad can no longer help them? That merely defending Israel in casual conversation becomes hopeless? Trust me, NO ONE cares about previous attacks in Buenos Aires, Istanbul, London, Bali, Madrid, or Beslan right now. Not when Israel is acting in such a similar manner.

Wasn't Iran sending its children to clear mine fields during the Iran Irak war?

Dutch, You use the term "war crimes" and how Israel is committing them? Would you also call the killing of women in Saudia Arabia for false charges, or the death of Shite Arabs in Iraq war crimes? Don't tell the people of the Holocaust or a country founded on the ashes of victims of the greatest war crime in history about war crimes... Maybe the real crime is the hypocrisy and the postering the Europeans do to save their economic connections with the Arab World!

Firstly, Ahmed J, learn to speak in grammatically correct English if you want to make an intelligent point. Secondly, I saw the rockets coming from behind this building with my own eyes. So don't lie to the world about the obvious facts Thirdly, why don't you leave the USA and go fight with your mamzer brothers if you have so much disdain for America. And finally, in your culture, there are no innocent people, as they are proving to the world.

The IDF ask civilians to leave and than bomb their cars while they are runing away !!!! so civilians are killed anyway ....SHAME ON YOU OLMERT....that is the real terrorism

To: Response to George When is the last time an Arab terrorist dropped leaflets to warn his Israeli victims he was coming? When is the last time and Arab terrorist used the radio to broadcast were he was going to strike? Israel has done both repeatedly to save innocents from being hurt...let me know the next time Hezbollah sends a flyer to innocent civilians and then maybe we can talk about democracy...

a dutch reporter harald doornbos was in the town Qana and was investigating if there were rocket launcher in the neigborhood or would have been. He could not come up with even the slightest evidence that a rocket was launched from that specific area. Israel wake up and look in the mirror!No excuses

To believe, that Hezbollah does not operate from within the civilian population is to believe in the tooth fairy. Time and Time again it has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. But Billy, like every other arab believes in the tactic LIE LIE LIE even in the face of the truth. Give it up, Billy Boy. Even the naive world knows the truth on this count.

How can Israel think for one second that hitting civilian lebanese is a way to weaken Hezbollah? For every child crushed under a Tsahal bomb, how many able adults are gonna join the ranks of Hezbollah? This war is not fought in the best interest of Israel, on the contrary. I can definitively understand the frustration in Israel, but this mass destruction of Lebanon will do nothing but strengthen Israel's ennemies, and allienate its allies. Senator Lieberman, for example, Israel's chosen democratic candidate in the US, is currently loosing ground because of this war. Israel has a lot more to loose, continuing this war than a few acres of land, and a few prisonners.

The death of any civilian is always difficult and hard to comprehend. However, when will the Arab world itself and others condemn Arab "freedom fighters",like Hamas or Hezbollah, for enslaving by force of a gun or using civilian (and UN) sites to host attacks and hide like cowards. The fault is not Israel's it is the acceptability of using civilians as pawn as the terrorist groups in the Arab world do daily (ie. see Iraq).

A train travels full speed ahead down the track. A parent allows his children to play on the track, after multiple warnings of its danger. A train hits the children and kills them. Who is to blame, the train or the parents? Where is the moral accountability? Your outrage should be directed at the UN and Hezbollah. You are amoral if you cannot figure this out, buddy!!!

So much for the "wonders?of IAF!! If Israel is really after HZB's fighters and launchers, why it doesn't send in its soldiers to engage in a man-to-man combat?? Oh yes! This does not make sense militarily and the human costs to Israel will be too much. Yet some idiots think that HZB should put a cross on its fighters and line them up in an open field so that the heroic IAF and bomb them without "collateral damage!" It's amazing how military power intoxicates and transforms minds.

Too many regrets from israeli officials. Israel cant do more that inform Hizbolah when and where the bombs will fall. This by itself sound strange in a declared war.

I am so morally outraged by these atrocities. All week long world leaders and the UN have been begging Israeli officials and US officials for a cease-fire to spare innocent lives but they have been so caught up in their own goals they have placed innocent lives on the line. How self serving! Shame on them! What a disgrace they are now. I hope the UN and the families bring charges of war crimes and atrocities against Israel. Morally Outraged, Dutch

Israeli leadership meets in Jrslm to discuss response to Hamas, Does this mean Hamas is not to blame when they do suicide bombing and hit Civilian areas inside Israel?

The civilian deaths are Hezbollah and the Lebanese government's responsibility. Israel warned the villages days ago to leave and that anywhere Hezbollah fired Katushas would be targeted. The double standard applied to Israel is remarkable - 1/3d of the country is in bomb shelters or dislocated, and Nasrallah- whose goal in life is Israel's destruction - threatens more attacks. And, of course, Nasrallah and Iran started the war. If the U.S. was in the same situation, even the biggest lefty would not complain about collateral damage. Olmert must stand fast - the offensive must continue until the mission is accomplished.

The civilian deaths are Hezbollah and the Lebanese government's responsibility. Israel warned the villages days ago to leave and that anywhere Hezbollah fired Katushas would be targeted. The double standard applied to Israel is remarkable - 1/3d of the country is in bomb shelters or dislocated, and Nasrallah- whose goal in life is Israel's destruction - threatens more attacks. And, of course, Nasrallah and Iran started the war. If the U.S. was in the same situation, even the biggest lefty would not complain about collateral damage. Olmert must stand fast - the offensive must continue until the mission is accomplished.

With all the pictures I have seen from the various newsmedia I never saw a member of hezbollah in any sort of uniform, I saw some of their PR guys leading journalists around (who ate their every word as absolute truth btw) but those were not wearing ANY kind of marker. So how does the worldpress claim to know who were civilians and who were not? apart from the age when they are clearly children I imagine it becomes hard to tell. And if the hezbollah actually wear uniforms/markers, how come the press managed to show zero pictures of them at all? the only time I see them recognisable is when they walk in a demonstration with hezbollah flags.

The civilian deaths are Hezbollah and the Lebanese government's responsibility. Israel warned the villages days ago to leave and that anywhere Hezbollah fired Katushas would be targeted. The double standard applied to Israel is remarkable - 1/3d of the country is in bomb shelters or dislocated, and Nasrallah- whose goal in life is Israel's destruction - threatens more attacks. And, of course, Nasrallah and Iran started the war. If the U.S. was in the same situation, even the biggest lefty would not complain about collateral damage. Olmert must stand fast - the offensive must continue until the mission is accomplished.

Hezbollah fired hundreds of rockets at Israel from Qana. Israel had to respond. They warned the civilians to leave. Hezbollah prevented the civilians from leaving. Hezbollah is directly responsible for the death of the civilians.

This has to end badly for the non-Islamic world. Islam is engaged in strategic war planning while the rest of us search for peace. They have honed their terror war to such a fine art that their crimes are vastly under reported while self defense is condemned as a war crime. In the meantime, terrorism is only a temporary tactic to pre-occupy us with moral issues until Iran can build a nuclear arsenal. Then the real war will begin.

Hezbollah didn't help these people leave the are despite the money they have. Billions of dollars for weapons and these people couldn't find a way out because they have no gas money!!!? Instead these horrible hateful soulless people made them hide in the basement where no Israeli drone could know they were there. No white flag to caution Israel. They only fired off hundreds of rockets from within a few feet of this building. HEZBOLLAH KILLED THESE PEOPLE. If they were concerned for civilians why would they not help them? Why are they so cowardly to hide behind these people. They don't care. Selfish horrible MURDERERS! They build hospitals when it's convenient to win political support and then fire deadly high explosive rockets from under their skirts and from their cribs. They have no ability for courage. No heart. No soul. Shame...shame on these murdering horrible people and the leaders who capitalize on the non-questioning followers.

most of us here know that hezbollah are the problem of everything,and what happened in Qana was because of hezbollah,and i realy want israel to finish them.so we will have real peace in lebanon with israel,and we are all waiting peace so we can go visit isreal and isreal people visit us (make tourism).

Considering that only 50 years ago, nobody gave a damn about the jews being slaughtered in Europe.. 1. How does they "world community", especially Europe's, chose who to condemn and who to ignore? 2. Why do they insistently ignore the fact that the citizens were told to leave? Why don't they condemn Hezbollah for using human shields? Orwell called that "doublethinking". To know the truth but force your mind to ignore it.

As an objective American Lebanese with primary allegiance to the USA first and Lebanon second, I would say to Israel move on beyond the incident of Quana and continue your campaign undeterred against Hezbollah. Just manage the negative PR that is thrown at you. Hezbollah uses every man, woman, and child as either a shield or a fighter, either way, it is the Lebanese Government responsibility to safeguard their citizens. The Lebanese Government refusal to rein over (and aiding) Hezbollah is the root cause. Israel provided ample warning for people to reach safety.

Well said, George! This war has been going on since 1948, and was endorsed by the Oslo Peace? Accords. We speak of the Geneva Convention - Hamas, Al Qaida, and Hezbollah didn't since, so they 'don't play by the rules.' Yet, as in the 1930s and 40s everyone is okay with 'appeasing the bully and terrorists.' Not now. Israel has finally said, 'Enough, already!' Who started the 9/11 in the US, and who started the killings in Israel? Israel has lived with these murders and murderers (let's call them what they are) for decades. You are right on! Thanks

'Billy,' Israel's 'goals' are to be allowed to live without constant military incursions on our borders and rockets falling on our population centers. If we have to 'level' parts of Lebanon to do so, then so be it. Fortunately only a few hundred Lebanese have been killed, and many of them were combatants. This is an actual war. Innocent people will die, which is sad. On the other hand, if you compare the 'death toll' of innocents to any other modern war (not involving the IDF) you will find that Israel is THE best at minimizing civilian casualties, though they are unfortunately unavoidable in such circumstances. I also find it ridiculous that you claim to have more operative information on conditions on the ground in this war than the people fighting it. Apparently you have better information than the IDF about the location of rocket batteries which are targeting us here in Israel. I would be pleased to get ahold of this information and pass it along to the IDF.

'Billy,' Israel's 'goals' are to be allowed to live without constant military incursions on our borders and rockets falling on our population centers. If we have to 'level' parts of Lebanon to do so, then so be it. Fortunately only a few hundred Lebanese have been killed, and many of them were combatants. This is an actual war. Innocent people will die, which is sad. On the other hand, if you compare the 'death toll' of innocents to any other modern war (not involving the IDF) you will find that Israel is THE best at minimizing civilian casualties, though they are unfortunately unavoidable in such circumstances. I also find it ridiculous that you claim to have more operative information on conditions on the ground in this war than the people fighting it. Apparently you have better information than the IDF about the location of rocket batteries which are targeting us here in Israel. I would be pleased to get ahold of this information and pass it along to the IDF.

i've said it before. i'm not tired to do so. about hezbollah's dual campaign: civilian israeli innocents must die in order for israel to be terrorized. but lebanese civilians must die too. in order for israel to be demonized. by hezbollah and public opinion. this is why hezbollah hides its bad fighters among civilians. and its primitive rockets. and the rosty launchers. the lebanese civilians are hezbollah's true infrastructure. creating human shields is a war crime. as it is hezbollah's specialty as well.

the government of lebanon has the responsiblity to protect its citizens. they knew that this area was going to be bombed. why they did not evacuate the people. the government does not care and ther wanted this tragedy to happen . they look at there people as a sacrifice . hetzbollah must be disarmed they are controlling the govt. hetzbolla and the lebanese govt a puppet of hetzbollah love to see to misery that is befallen lebanon.stop the katyushashs and the bombs would stop. hetzbolla assumes they can be shielded by causing the misery to lebanon. the government of lebanon has betrayed its citizens and aligned itself with hetzbollah

As horrible as this incident is, let's remember that the war was started by Hezbollah. Thus, they are responsible for everything that happens in it. War has always been a "blunt instrument" for resolving human disputes. Those who hate it the most are the experienced soldiers because they know that many, many innocents will get killed in the process. But Israel must defend itself for the sake of its citizens and for the sake of Jews around the world. Thus, while I am sad about this incident, I fully support Israel's defence of its right to exist.

"The UN humanitarian chief accused Hezbollah late Monday of "cowardly blending" among Lebanese civilians and causing the deaths of hundreds during two weeks of cross-border violence with Israel. The militant group has built bunkers and tunnels near the Israeli border to shelter weapons and fighters, and its members easily blend in among civilians. Jan Egeland spoke with reporters at the Larnaca airport in Cyprus after a visit to Lebanon on his mission to coordinate an international aid effort. " "Consistently, from the Hezbollah heartland, my message was that Hezbollah must stop this cowardly blending ... among women and children," he said. "I heard they were proud because they lost very few fighters and that it was the civilians bearing the brunt of this. I don't think anyone should be proud of having many more children and women dead than armed men. From a paper published in Haaretz.com Last tuesday-update - 12:10 25/07/2006 http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/742562.htm

perpetuity. Civilian building used for military purposes loses it's civilian status. Your reaction is the one desired by Lebanese,wanting to destroy Israel .

Hizbollah is willing to sacrifice civilians. They deliberately set up their positions behind human shields of women and children. This is the true face of Islamic ?holy warriors?. They are cowards hiding in populated areas. The responsibility for this awful event is theirs, not Israel?s.

If tens of thousands of foreign nationals were able to escape from Beirut and Tyre into ships then these people could have escaped to safe parts of Lebanon as well. If hundreds of rockets were fired from the area then it became a military target.

I am disgusted. Never once, did I see any post speaking out when Tali Hatuel was murdered by Hamas animals along with her four daughters, driving in their car. This was clear, cold blooded-murder. Never once, did I see any post condemning the murder of Yossi Shok, who's crime was driving home for the Sabbath to his wife and FIVE small children. The list goes on and on. When all the hypocrites acknowledge the Arab crimes, premeditaded slaughter of Jews, you can respond to Israeli acts. As far as Hamas, these murderers crossed the red lines years ago, they are sub-human who have no place in the civilized world. Israel did not wake up this morning and INTEND to murder innocents. Hamas and Hezbollah does it EVERY HOUR. Hez doesn't give two craps about their civilians, only the resulting PR.

It's obvious shame, a clear and real failure if IDF push Olmert to authorize his bloody, dirty and violant Air Officers to bombard inocent families in Qana shelter. I need to ask Olmert Where is the rocket base that he bombared in Qana ...I need him to explaine where is the military forces of hizbollah that he shoot.... Does this help Olmert's people and state ??? does this will rescue israel cities tommorw from hizbollah attacks ???? Ok, then this is the start of the game only, USA will drive Israel to act as stupid agent for ameriacn intrests in the middle east where the ever losing player at the end is Israel and its people.

This happens over and over again: The hizbolla take a group of refuggees fleeing north, they put them in the basement of the building telling them they will be safe there, with 3 or 4 stories above them what could happen(?) They promise to bring them food and water and toys for the kids. Meanwhile when the party is going on downstairs a crew sets up a rig of Katushas on the roof with a timer. They know, full well that within two minutes of firing that the IAF will destroy it. Hey presto, Lovely pictures for the world press to lap up and look at the Israeli child murderers. No one will say that the 2000-3000 rockets that they have so far fired at Israel were not exactly pinpoint aimed at military installations etc.or that there are 300,000 internal refugees in Israel or that the Hizbolla are cynical murderers of their own people.

It is a Hezbollah stronghold.

Are they serious? Anyone who knows anything about Hizbullah (i.e. IDF/IAF) knows that the reason Hizbullah is so much much more successful militarily than Hamas and Islamic Jihad, for example, is precisely beacause THEY DON'T OPERATE OUT OF CIVILIAN CENTERS because of fear of collaborators. There are even political members of Hizbullah who will never encounter Hizbullah fighters because of that fear on the part of Hizbullah leadership. Of course the Israelis are going to say that Hizbullah was operating in Qana rather than saying "Yes, we killed lots of children." If leveling all of south lebanon is the only means for Israel to achieve its aims, then its aims are illigitemate and unachievable under international law.

Why do Olmert, Peretz, the IDF command and others always apologize after Lebanese civilian casualties? This only helps to convince world public opinion that Israel is guilty of something. Hezbollah deliberately targets Israeli civilians all day long. Neither they nor the phony president of Lebanon ever apologize when they succeed in killing Israeli civilians. If the IDF targets launch sites, it is Hezbollah's fault when Lebanese civilians, who are used as human shields, are killed. It is, in fact, obvious that they intend to have their civilians killed in order to win the propaganda war. No matter what Israel does, the BBC and their ilk will blame Israel. Stop apologizing for Hezbollah guilt!

I agree this is tragic, but nothing new. The 'bad guys' have been using chhildren as shields or weapons for decades, and the 'good guys' pay the price. Children were used as bombs during the Viet Nam war. Us soldiers greeted children with friendship and were killed for it. When combatants do not wear uniforms and use non-combatants as weapons, everyone loses. This is a war for Israel's survival. All of those who condemn them are either against them, or at least are speaking from lack of experience of war, or lack of understanding of the enemy. These are terrorists Israel is fighting. Just look at the definition of the word in all languages. To get another perspective, look at Psalms 83. Israel has a right to exist and defend herself. Who wouldn't?

...because now they can point an accusing finger at Israel. They are sanctimonious hypocrites who couldn't care less about those dead civilians so long as they can have their hysterical fit at Israel. Olmert is a fool for apologizing -- that only encourages this hypocrisy and encourages the enemy to use civilian human shields. Better that 60 of the enemy should die than one of our people. Make that 6,000 of the enemy. Or 60,000. The U.S., Britain, Russia, etc., they have all done the same thing during war, even worse (Hiroshima, Dresden, etc.). They're only going nuts over it because they think that they can manipulate us through Jewish neurotic guilt. Hey, the arabs don't care if their children die, so why should we? And don't talk about "morality", because "morality" during wartime is nothing but BS.

jews, ignore those that ignore your plight. they coveniently forget, but we must remember the pictures of the arab waving to the crowd his arms that he had just dipped in the blood of the trapped israeli reservists that they slaughtered in cold blood. this is what they have in store for us. this is a war against bloodthirsty islamofascists who would have killed MILLIONS of jews by now if the power equation was reversed. you are fighting a just war in a just way.

We all wish this had not happened. Yet who is ultimately to blame? When you have a terrorist group that blends into the general population and uses residential neighborhoods as a launching pad for its attacks, it is they who are ultimately responsible. I know the world will not see it that way, and there's not much we can do about that. War is hell, and this is one that Hezbollah (and the people within Lebanon who give it aid and comfort) brought upon themselves.

Lebanon and everyone else that attacks Israel has got to grasp that fact that whenever Hezbollah or anyone else attacks Israel, Israel is going to attack back with whatever force it must no matter what anyone has to say about it. When you put Israel in a position where they have to either let Hezbollah fire rockets on their children's heads or risk their retaliatory rockets falling on your children's head, it is their own children they will choose to protect, not yours, not ever. No country in the world would allow their children to be murdered in order to not risk someone else's children. No country would do that and certainly no decent mother would do that. You have put them in this position. If you love your children, you must understand this so that you can protect them, because the Israelis are never going to choose their lives of your children over the lives of their own. Do not attack them, they will NOT attack you and all of our children can be safe. Do not sacrifice your children's' live for Nassrallahs' foolish pride and selfish need for adulation. He clearly will not sacrifice his pride and egomaniac need for crowds to chant his name for your children's' lives. If you are a mother and you have any heart at all, you know without doubt that what I am saying here is true and this will never change no matter what anyone says or does.

HEZBOLLAH KILLED 60 civilians in QANA !!!! 1)Hezbollah fired dozens of rockets from that area and then found shelter in those houses ! 2) IDF sent a forewarning to all the civilians of that area saying " go away because we will fire back at the next rocket barrage" !! 3)Those weak and miserable Hezbollah terrorists use civilians like shield and many of those civilians are WIFES and SONS of them. GENEVA WAR CONVENCTION forbid to use civilians like shield !! GO ON IDF.....KILL those MISERABLE ,because among those 60 You can be sure there were many Hezbollah men hidden under the skirt of their woman! GO ON

HEZBOLLAH KILLED 60 civilians in QANA !!!! 1)Hezbollah fired dozens of rockets from that area and then found shelter in those houses ! 2) IDF sent a forewarning to all the civilians of that area saying " go away because we will fire back at the next rocket barrage" !! 3)Those weak and miserable Hezbollah terrorists use civilians like shield and many of those civilians are WIFES and SONS of them. GENEVA WAR CONVENCTION forbid to use civilians like shield !! GO ON IDF.....KILL those MISERABLE ,because among those 60 You can be sure there were many Hezbollah men hidden under the skirt of their woman! GO ON

proud grandpa! do you really believe IAF knew there are children there a bombed the building? IAF threw leaflets and informed by radio to all the civilians to leave? why didnt these people leave? stop criticising olmert! Blame the murderous hizboalla who wanted this to happen in order to give Israel bad PR

Lebanese have allowed Hizbollah to set-up rockets and operate terror bases throughout southern Lebanon. They have done it before, they did it again. Now they have to pay the consequences.

Is the state of Israel still calling its army the "most moral army" of the world?? If morality has a meaning it does not have anything to do with the state-sponsered terror Israeli Devastation Army (IDF) is commiting against children, women and the elderly both in Lebanon and in Palestine. Long Live the ONLY democracy in the Middle East...........

Killing children is unjustified. Period. Fullstop. Olmert tries to justify this horrendous act and should be condemned for it in the most harsh terms. Olmert - You ARE NOT my Prime Minister: You have BLOOD of children on your hands. You have a mind of the worst kind of terrorist if you think that killing children is justified.