Protesters scuffle with supporters of Rabin's assassin outside jail

You say ...."In America, amir would have been executed." That is garbage. Siran siran is still living in prision 30 years after he murdered RFK. You say "...greatest heroes of the State of Israel" Perhaps you can tel us what Rabin's "legacy" really was ? Altalena ? The passing out before the 6-day war (Thank G*d Weizmen was there)? The drinking ? How about the illegal dollars ?

They wouldnt have to... Meretz would do it for them

As a Palestinian I have no time for Rabin or Amir. They?re both the products of the same extreme mentality that thinks nothing of stealing someone else's land and claiming it as their own. I'd only be interested in the annual rally in Tel Aviv when Israeli leaders change their attitude and discourse by telling their audience that Israel had committed some heinous crimes against the Palestinian people since its creation. Israelis like to think of themselves as victims and have convinced themselves that the Palestinians are the aggressors!!! Israelis must put an end to this self delusion if they really want to live in peace with their neighbours.

Please always remember, none of us choose our birth parents. The innocent child of Yigal Amir has a God given soul. Perhaps Amir did not suffer extra-judicial assassination as a Palestinian would have (and does for far lesser crimes) because it was known at the time that Amir did indeed fire blanks. Is this a possibility?

Not

Avi,Likfots Lanu.

A process that started with granting the assassin(which happened to be a murderous terrorist named Samir Kuntar)permission to marry in prison 3 times.Will end up in a murderous terrorist being Released in a prisoner exchange. Reminder,Sami Kuntar Murdered a policeman,murdered 28 year old Danny Haran in front of his daughter Einat ,and then proceeded to smash his daughter Einat's skull with the butt of his rifle.

What the lefties want to do? Nominate Rabin as a new Jesus? Create a new religion and say that the Jews killed him? Israel is ruled by bunch of lunatics elected by a crowd of idiots...

When citizens who think that the man who murdered the prime minister in cold blood for political gain are 'leftists' because they think he should be punished in prison and not holding celebrations there, something is very wrong.

Why all this negativity against this poor innocent eight day old child? What kind of "Jews"??? would even think to prevent a father from seeing his sons brisk? What kind of warped minded people are these even after the court decided and the left attack Jewish towns for defying external pressure from foreign governments posing as Left (right wing Nazi funded). Mazel Tov Yigal and I hope your son has a life in Israel (all of Israel from Golan to Sinai, from Med to Amman) No offense I can dream of having all of Israel liberated no? Do not the the so called "Palestinians" dream of the same and the Arabs and Muslims already control half the planet and they want more and more. Its one big Jihad and you sheep are to be slaughtered for Allah and oil profits. Salem Allechem! but if you can read this Yigal Mazel tov! I hope your son chooses a brave but non-violent path in life. Let him study Torah and be a man of kindness and peace. Bezerat Hashem! :)

The insidious language of this article? editorial I guess since Haaretz cannot be considered by anyone objective as "news" since it's sources are so dubious and unchecked. It was once somewhat reliable in terms of news even when the op-eds were in Meretz weirdo la la land. Why cannot the so called Left (actually sponsored by extreme right wing elements of Nazi groups) respect laws in Israel and elsewhere? I am so happy for Yigal and look forward to his son following in his foot steps but hope he chooses a non-violent path and stays in the cheder and study. It was wrong what Yigal did although General Rabin (never should have become a politician) forfeited his life the day he signed OSLO on the white house law and broke his promise of shaking the mass murdering terrorist Arafat (yamach schmo veh zichron) and handed weapons and JEWISH (don't mistake that) land over to Israel's enemy he made a pact with the devil and paid for it.I forgive you Yitzkach and bless your memory.You erred

He assassinated the PM of a country. He doesn't deserve much more then he has already gotten.

to # 95.Kurt. Two wrongs dont make a right !!! Amir Killed Rabin in cold blood.It was premeditated murder.For the rest of Amir's life he needs to be locked up,without any rights whatsoever.

millions did.

"To kill a Jew is the most disgusting thing!" Why ? Is it any less disgusting than killing any human ?

Israel's real problem is how to seize maximum land with a minimum of Arabs. Oslo was a small detour in the process, and could potentially save Israel from suicide. Now that peace is no where on the horizon of the Israeli government, the tragedy must play itself out with Israel expanding and the inevetable opposition.

Take Yinai meaning "eternal" as in Psalm 72:17 and written with Hebrew jud-letter, then Eli(a)hu, meaning "the messenger of good news" and written with alef-letter and Shalom, meaning "peace", written with shin-letter, we get "Josh" which becomes the famous name of Moses' follower: Joshua, who brought down the walls of Jericho...which are up again! The name can just as well mean:"the messenger of good news on eternal peace", which is a beautiful name. Maybe Joshua will blow into his shofar one day, when he is a man and bring down the Walls now dividing the Land and the two peoples, who cannot live in peace.

Sir, Vlad. Ilych, You started this porridge (kasha?) and you know a lot about permanent revolutionaries. The problem, however, that the LEFT of today is not decent Social Democrats but hateful lumpen scum. How is you life in afterlife, Sir.. How are Nadezhda and Ms. Armand?

Israel is a weak country for allowing this man to have special priveliges etc.... and have a kid... and attend the brit! I am glad I left Israel... the country has no morals (except to survive).

"Yinon Eliya SHAalom (YESHA)" - FBI No wonder FBI blew it with all the semitic terrorists it did not catch. They thought everybody was speaking English. Chances are Amir and Trimbobler don't care at all about what the name can represent in English; they use HEBREW. In Hebrew, the vowels are not written, therefore the Eliyah name does not contribute a vowel, certainly not E, but the letter Aleph. And the final A in yeshA is actually an 'ayin', but the name Shalom has no Ayin, only the vowel A (unwritten). HOT at least came up with a joke (I imagine) but the FBI sounds serious. No good. P.S. To see the meaning of the names take a look at #97.

Haaretz and AP slowly but gradually slide to left wing extremism , radicalism , notice the Haaretz with AP' phraseology exploited to describe the scuffle between radical left wing extremists vs right wing moderates ,

...after Annapolis. LOL.

THE FACTS ARE THAT SINCE OSLO MANY MORE JEWS WERE MURDERED THAN BEFORE - RABIN REFERRED TO THEM AS SACRIFICE FOR PEACE - FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AMIR ACTED OUT OF HIS DEEP LOVE FOR THE LAND OF ISRAEL AND HIS FELLOW JEWS - ALTHOUGH HIS ACTIONS WERE WRONG. I WISH HIM AND HIS FAMILY GOOD HEALTH AND THE BEST

Clearly these leftists aren't peaceful as witnessed their violent protest. They only believe in peace when it suits them.

Amir & Trimboble are really sick to use this name!

and the circus following his every move is even more disgusting.the man should be kept in solitary confinement. we must be mad to allow him all this publicity.

I would never name my child after a television company. YES can sue Amir&Trimbobler for trademark violation :-)

and have it removed from the Torah, because it too was wrong, don't you agree.

all the poisonous predators that lurk in the shadows that that baby is innocent and has the same right to live as any other child. May he grow up healthy, in peace and thrive like all other children. Yinnon Eliya Shalom, mazal tov and may you lead a happy and fruitful life. G-d will protect you from your enemies. BEST WISHES on this happy occassion.

You may be right but you were diverting from the Link. It was about Rabin's murderer.There are many people today who are in sympathy with Yigal Amir for his assassination on Rabin. Rabin's wish for peace with the Arabs was because he had witnessed the young dying before his very eyes and wanted no more of it. How could that ever be without a peace. Yigal Amir believes and maybe still believes that there can be no peace with the Arabs - and that is what many people are thinking today. Therein lies sympathy for Yigal Amir.

How could having the circumcision done in a synagogue in Petah-Tiqva be considered "condemnation of the child", as you put it? The child would have been circumcized "ka-dat uke-din" with no harm done to him, but the father would have been deprived of one of the joys of normal life, which is only what he deserves.

So how come that the anniversary (Yarzeit) of Rabin's death that corresponds to the Hebrew date was 24 October 2007 is suddenly not appropriate for the Jewish State. How many anniversaries per year are there going to be? Two per year? - one corresponding to the Jewish date as per Jewish custom and one on the Gregorian date corresponding to the Christian date - as per last night. These people who assembled last night spat in the face of the Jewish State - did they have a problem with the 24 October 2007 or is it they wish to destroy the state and convert it as do our enemies into a none Jewish State.

As far as I know, Goldstein did NOT become a "cult" in Israel and in America there was some religious "hegemony" around Kahane by his supporters, but not in Israel.

Amir was held by Police at time of chest wound E.Sneh on T.V.ie.coaguation blood test @ hospital;so whats the name of the game?

"The child was named Yinon Eliya Shalom." - Haaretz Very remarkable that all 3 names given to the Amir-Trimbobler family are names of the MESSIAH. Perhaps the nutty parents believe that he will be the great Deliverer. "What is his [Messiah?s] name? The school of Rabbi Shila said: Shiloh is his name, as it says (Gen. 49:10) "Until Shiloh comes." The school of Rabbi Yannai said: YINON is his name, as it says (Ps 72:17) "May his name endure forever, may it continue (yinon) as long as the sun." - Sanhedrin 98b Here we already see two of the names: Yinon and Shalom (supposedly the origin of the name Shiloh). But the name Shalom has a more explicit Rabbinic source: "Rabbi Yose the Galilean says: The name of the Messiah too is "peace" (SHALOM); as it is written: "God the mighty, the everlasting Father, the ruler of peace (Isaiah 9:6)" - Numbers Rabbah 11 The name Eliya, and not in the common form Eliyahu, also appears as a messianic name: "See, I will send you the prophet Elijah (ELIYA) before that great and dreadful day of the LORD comes. He will turn the hearts of the fathers to their children, and the hearts of the children to their fathers; or else I will come and strike the land with a curse." ? Malachi 3:23-24 P.S. Note that while Elijah is usually considered the harbinger of the Messiah, in Malachi he appears as the Messiah himself.

Besides annexing whole swaths of the West Bank and East Jerusalem, Israel is now having a brouhaha over the circumcision of a murderer's child behind prison walls? What a state that claims it's role as the only "civilized" outpost in the Middle East with its Jewish-only roads, laws that privilege Jews, and ridiculous internal struggles.

To kill a Jew is the most disgusting thing. But let's not forget that Rabin has jewish blood on his hands too. He gave the order to shoot and kill the people (Jews) who jumped from the Altalena and tried to reach the beach.

do you think it would be allowed for a palestinian prisoner to copulate with his wife while he is serving a sentance in prison inorder to have children ? ??? do you think he will be allwoed to have his son's circumcision in jail? he is a killer and should be left to rotten in prison ...

The "ugly marging of society" [Barak] is where Israel ends and Judeostan starts!

Amir is an egotistic son of a b----. He knew his child will have a hard life beeing booed, persecuted, ridiculed by other children for being the son of a famous murderer. Still he didn't care as he wanted to be a father by all means for selfish reasons.

murdered another person, which is FORBIDDEN in Judaism. WHY did he do it? Maybe he believed that by murdering Rabin, he can stop the peace-process and cancel what he saw destroy Israel's existance? I frankly do not know, what was going on in his mind and what r-e-a-l-l-y motivated him? We the public have never learned Amir to explain his motivations. Today after 12 years of relentless violence and out-of-control peace-process, we can think that Amir acted out of patriotism in order to save Israel from: the over 3000 dead and 5000 mutilated victims of "peace", who followed, the division of Jerusalem, disputes over the Temple Mount, the birth of Islamist Hamas, the Gaza-tunnels, Sderot under constant attacks etc. Is Amir a psychopath. I do not think so. Does he deserve some "normal" life inside the stone, yes, I think so. Will he ever be freed? Yes, he will, but first when the "godless giants" of Israel's present day politics are growing weed in their resting places.

are whatever they are, but bythe same token remember that there is no Law which enforces the Jewish State to give up any land for a 'ProposedPalestinian State'.Arabs have sufficient land and the means to provide for such a Homeland and a State for their very own Brethren. The Idea was generated by Collective Sympathy for a group of 'Homeless and Displaced Arab Refugees' after the 1948 Arab/Israeli War when the Refugees were rejected permission to return back to their Homelands. Inaddition there were the Arabs who lived in Palestine under the British Mandate who fled their homes after Israel's victory even though Jews begged them to stay. Together they comprise millions of Homeless Arab Refugees whose only pragmatic Solution is to be among their own people who have masses of land and all the finances needed for a Home and a State, instead of which they give George Bush and Condaleezza Rice a headache. Why Israel???To Punish the Jewish State? YES!

We are suicidal society. We criticize the palestinian terror for commiting suicide bombings but we allow this man to procriate. THe only explanation is a compulsion for self-destruction. We bust junior terrorist arround the clock but the biggest terrorist of our recent history (worse than rantissi and iassin) is allowed to attend a bris...] give me a break!!!

Did you mean infamous? Buna seara!

i`am mre like for thi likoud side ,but we have to remember a killer is a killer, and Mr Isaac Rabin for me and i hope for all the jewish people is a hero and part of the state of israel story ,this killer need to stay in jail for the reste of is life end of the story.

mazal tov to the Amir's family. Wish they'll have only najes and bsorot tovot.

I am not a right wing extremist, and I still he had the right to cicumsize his son. May he circumsize him and then rot in jail. All supporters of Yigal for kiling Rabin are extremists, but they have a point in saying that the left does not like court decisions that do not please their point of view. Tough luck, we all must submit to court rulings, even us in the center. Grow up, all of you

...may G-D be merciful on the Israeli people in His wrath due to the UNgodliness of the Israeli leadership and not punish the people for their gathering to an idol-worship, for they are ignorant and naive. Amen. (This is a prayer).

In America, amir would have been executed. He was allowed to "marry" (new religious laws made up quickly) and then to be able to impregnate his wife -why- the only reason is to have a big sign on his bed to tell him EVERY DAY that his father murdered one of the greatest heroes of the State of Israel - let him live with that and may his father rot in prison as he deserves.

a new born baby famous from the very day of inception.

If an Arab killed Rabin, would they clamor to free him? That's what the point Amir's supporters miss. Amir is not a Jewish prisoner of consciense that benefited the Jewish people. Amir is an enemy of the Jewish people that killed our own, just like Kuntar, and should be executed, not freed.

The cause of all our problems today. In truth YES!!You are correct..

that would be the best name for Haaretz headlines.

There is a time for peace and a time for war Rabin tried to bring the time for peace a bit closer. He put his life on the line both in peace and in war. The people who scream like hysterical lunatics that Rabin deserved his fate are not fit to kiss his boots because they are the people who hide in the shadows and egg on others to fight their dirty wars whilst they still hide themselves away and risk nothing and bask in the exitement of others dying in conflict, Amir was an agent provacateur, a good for nothing assassin. steeped in ignorance and mysticsym. All those who think he was a hero should be rounded up and forced to take the first wave into the Hezbollah strongholds in the next war in Lebanon. Let's see how exited they get about those who try to make peace then.

but never uses the word left wing "extremists". That should tell everyone a lot about this "news" paper which is really an opinion paper.

Amir should have been executed, just as Eichmann was. The reason: treason. He should never have been permitted to marry. He should never have been permitted to have someone to continue his lineage. He should have married Margalit Har-Shefi instead...and then they should've been executed for treason.

Israel has become a joke...Barak doesn't yield any juridicial power even to discuss these matters-on pardons or shortening of jail terms, he's a defence minister(at least the last time I checked, as he dabbled as Interior and Foreign Minister as well).But then Yossi Sarid was a minister of environment protection, but he was engaged with "peace process" on 24/7 basis.We're a funny country, with no separaion of legilative, judiciary pwers,our politicians are not elected by appointed,generals sit on a fence waiting for honourary pensions with sinecures in state companies, Defence Minister sells stocks and then goes to war,and gets away with a barely slap on a wrist,new President is very active politically(against all rules,but what does he care? Mr Peres is a new leftist Messiah,just wait to see when he's gone-our kids will have to learn the legacy of Peres)MPs often look like market merchants(learn to wear jacket and tie, guy, and Mr Eliezer-lose weight,you look like a pita with kebab).

This beats me - why Itamar Ben0Gvir, and settlets in general, politicians on the right(like Lievermann in the past ) are so eagerly and easily branded as "extremist" by the media, while fringe , extreme left-wing parties never get the same treatment, on the contrary they are apriori treated as the "light to the world", "progressive", "liberal" etc. I personally believe that the time has come that anyone right-wing politicans who is called an" extremist" should sue. Basis - biased treatment by the media, and I hope we'll have a court precedent. STOP BRAINWASHING! And I hate to see media associating itself only with one side ( and really very extreme) of political spectrum.

It's not like he only murdered an individual, terrible as that would be. What is the point of allowing this animal to reproduce when you know he and his family are going to do their best to instill his murderous values in his son?

WOW!! This guy murdered a prime minister and gets these kinds of previliges. What kind of country is this?

I do not believe in condemning the child for the sins of the father. If that were the case, there is a candidate for President of the United States in the Republican primary whose father was no angel. Each generation brings about a different person.

-tead.

Don't interfere in ISRAELI affairs. Now.....GFYS!!!

FROM ONE WHO WAS THERE! AT LEAST 150,000!!!

can anyone show one positive thing in israels favour after the implementation of the oslo disater ?

Defense Minister, Ehud Barak, you hinted, on the mass meeting at Rabin?s Square Tel Aviv, 12 years after Rabin?s assassination in 1995 a government meeting with reports about prior ?mass demonstration in Jerusalem?s Zion?s Square where the leadership of the thence still united Likud Party?s election speakers, where in addition to verbal attacks on PM Itzhak Rabin big posters showing him in SS Uniform were displayed! Why if you already mentioned "Fuad Ben-Eliezer slammed on the table, saying 'this will end in murder" you refrained from Ehud Olmert being one of the speakers present on the balcony there! Where were you then Ben-Eliezer and others of Avoda Party i.a. thence still including nowadays i.a. President Shimon Perez, Speakeress of the Knesset Dalia Itzik etc all of you are presently members of PM Ehud Olmert?s Kidima Party government! - Apparently nobody learned a lesson even nobody admits his ?former political positions? and now nobody wants to be reminded of it and nobody draws any conclusion out of this murder assassination! Otherwise this whole unnecessary ?legal / paragraph theatre? around the well prepared PR action by Yigal Amir from his prison cell could not have taken place and succeeded to grant murderer the especial privilege of his in prison with legal consent conceived child / son?s circumcision to be performed. No longer ?? let me repair my failures and let me change? is acceptable from Prime Minister Ehud Olmert?s admittance in the Knesset of having failed in the Lebanon War. N O W the ?official mourners? 12 years after the assassination even can?t show anything pointing to have learned any lesson. - The hollow sounds of ??ensure that political murder of the sort never happen again?.? Unfortunately sound like all other spins of PM Ehud Olmert. Now we are faced with a steadily growing public movement for releasing Yigal Amir at about 20 years imprisonment as he has become the father of a poor child which has to carry his father?s Cain?s sign of planned murder. - Do you intend to continue with you empty dishonourable declarations of official sorrow when your actions can in no way be interpreted to a virtual anti assassination despise assassination policy of your political opponents? AND Itzhak Rabin was opposed to everything you represent.

Is the Israeli court of justice in favour of assassins? Circumcision ceremony shouldn't be allowed to award a killer of late PM Rabin.This decision is a licence to award killing field operations in the name of court orders. Court panels were established to protect humans from insecurity and lack of law and order. Good luck Israel on the next hit and run senario in the name of court democracy.

i personally was present in some peacenow rally in TA in 80, maariv published about 40000 participants. there were less than 1000 including antidemonstration. that is a fact, even maariv did publish my letter and reprimanded its own correspondent and it was not maariv alone, others did the same. so i do not believe in all that bs.

In 1937 in USSR millions of men and women called to kill and to exterminate "enemies of people"; The atmosphere in Israel is very similar; Left lost any human image in the wave of hatred of all Jewish and support to all Palestinian.

This poor excuse of a pm will leave nothing unturned trying to gain public opinion.

How about that Mr Olmert?

TAKE A DICTIONNARY, CHOOSE THE MOST ACCEPTED MEANINGS AND USE THEM FOR YOUR AIM. That`s what the Left is doing. Peres`s speech to the young generation is an excellent exemple for that. "Heritage ,Peace, Now, Future, the Young Generation"....all have been appropriateed by the Left. The 5000 year old Jewish Heritage does not exist for the Left. Does someone know the basics of Rabin`s heritage? Like an instant coffee, it`s an "Instant Heritage" invented by Shimon Peres .

Ha'aretz, though mentioning the fact that Yuval Rabin spoke, writes nothing of the content of his speech - an attack against the rabbis and other public figures who incited to murder and havwe never been punished; writes nothing of Yuval's condemnation of the District Court granting Amir permission to have his son's circumcision performed in prison. Amir sahould never have been allowed to marry, let alone to procreate. Yuval Rabin's speech was newsworthy, if only for the fact that he finally broke his silence and attacked those he felt were deserving of censure.

For your information, it was only after the First World War that the British and French divided the area into those different Arab States which are in existence today. As it would appear you are part of the Pro Muslim/Arab PosTER LobbY, you should be aware that the Promised Land was never ARAB LAND. However, the area having been divided by the British and the French after World One becoming the Arab States of today, Arabs allowed themselves the privilege of taking improper possession of the whole area until the Balfour Declaration came into effect proposing the Jews be returned to their proper place on the map. Arabs objected and began a War against the Jewish people when they were defeated. Rabin knew all this, but for Peace..... One might even say then, that it was the ARABS who stole the Land of Palestine, the Promised Land of the Jews and the Jewish Homeland since 538 BCE. History knows this - but Arabs don't because their History has been 'Rewritten'

First you must know it was NEVER Arab land. They did not exist in those ancient days of the Babylonians, Persians, Assyrians, Philistines, Hittites,Canaanites, Jewish warriors all fighting one against the other..... while bedouins were ALWAYS in their homeland of the Desert. Arabs are not mentioned in Ancient History until Moslems entered the scene during theCrusades much later. Consequently, to answer you - IT WAS NEVER STOLEN FROM THE ARABS. It was always and is always known as 'The Promised Land of the Jewish people' and always will be. There is much Literature to prove this - even in the Koran if you would care to look it up. Who stole the land you ask... Well it was always known as the Promised Land of the Jewish people,under different rulersbut never NEVER ruled by Arabs, though many came out of the desert to live there, but Arabs have never RULED PALESTINE.

The lesson to be learned from Rabin's assassination is that verbal violence such as that which was present before Rabin's assassination and which is still present now can turn into real violence much more easily than we think. We still hear the voices of the fanatics calling for violence. This talkback is a prime example. Keep all the Yigal Amirs behind bars so that the rest of the country can make progress, towards peace, and don't let them get in our way. The fanatics - either tje Jewish right wingers or Hamas - who are trying to prevent peace will not intimidate us. That is the legacy Rabin left us.

You are free to delude yourselves all you want. Hopefully the cultic events are over for year until next Holloween.

There were THOUSDANDS! they were teaming!! One could not see the end of the line... I watched it on Television and was amazed at the MASSES! AT LEAST 50/100,000 PEOPLE. Nobody bothered to count - Israeli-style.

It's AMAZING! The Jewish people get their 159th Nobel Prize!!! Yes, it is believable that there can never be perce between these two unlikely partners. The PROPOSED PALESTINIAN STATE should be when All Arab Countries share the responsinility of Proposing a PALESTINIAN STATE for their people. WHY ALL UPON ISRAEL'S SHOULDERS? Oh yes, because they can ALL share in Islam's Aim of the Destruction of Israel! Shame on Islam.

These left wing radicals are the first to FORGIVE Arab terrorists within Israel and the Arab terrorists without Israel and FORGET constantly daily murders and maiming and threats and rockets by the Arab terrorists within and without Israel and ---reward--- the Arab terrorists and their supporters with ISRAEL LAND. Now they want to free Barghouti. The left pot is always calling the right wing kettle black. While the left INCITES daily against the national camp-from the politicians, the media, academia, NGO's etc-no one bothers to state why MORE right wingers have been murdered than leftist agitators. Further, the national obsession over the death of Rabin is nauseating and obscene. Rabin killed a BOAT LOAD of right wingers at the Altalena. Further, he was responsible with his fellow leftists for the thousands of dead and wounded from Oslo. His family and his cultish followers can wax poetic all they want, but it WON't change the thousands of dead and maimed Jews cause of Oslo.

I agree with you totally. This has nothing to do with political opinions. Israel is taking a murderer and turning him into a hero, and in my opinion that is equivalent to descending a step of two down the stairway to hell. And if he does get out, will he go around killing more people simply because he doesn't agree with them?

Rabin was no Hero to me at least. He almost destroyed the country. Maybe 70000 there based on the picture and doing a grid estimate. http://ralphsrant1.blogspot.com/

This is his historical legacy.

Introducing and arming Jews' sworn enemies into the heart of Israel creating a calamity for generations is Rabin's legacy. But why remind any "Peace Never", "B'Sheker" and so on members any of that, they have a very selective memory.

After reading what Barry Chamish, and others (including the mother of Yigal Amir) have written on the subject, there surely must be an enquiry into the allegations being made. This is my fourth post since reading of the raised questions surrounding the murder of Yitzhak Rabin. For some reason Haaretz have decided not to post them. Peace.

The SHABAK decides when Amir's conjugal visits were, so they timed it perfectly to have the son born just in time to enrage the Left and motivate them to come to this rally. Every year they have some incident, such as allowing Amir to say something to the media, just before the anniversary in order to get political capital out of it.

international court of justice for their evasion of dozens of points of evidence which they deliberately chose to ignore, so that a religous Jew be framed, and the left and Peres become president? And why does Haartez not print my contributions to their published comments, again and again?? WHY???

on any thing - the facts. Since the time of Menachem Begin - There has always been a Jewish Centre Right majority. How right is the only question? For those that like to pretend that Kadima is some center left party, I suggest you add up the number of ex-likudniks in it. The only thing certain is that the next Government will be a Centre right-religious government. It will certainly not be a labour - meretz abomination. Those that turn up to these meaningless events are pretty much all that is left of the left, the sad rump of a decayed cow.

Sorry if you didn't understand me well but that crowd of 100,000 made a lot of noise. ---Your friend from TA

It is not possible for a man to take three 9mm bullets in the back and continue, not just walking, but actually leaping into his limousine. To be hit by just one bullet, and a man falls as if poleaxed. There was not one drop of blood at the scene, despite Rabin having been shot in the vascular lung and spleen. We are not getting the full story.

Will you stop preaching at us from your self appointed high horse.Do you think we care what you think of israelis???

The Jews are no exception, except that the extreme right (the ugly margins of society as Barak put it today) can't even agree on a single one.

Our "abba" Yitzhak Rabin was a GREAT and extremely courageous man, who really dared to take risks for peace ! Anyone knowing a little something about him knew fully well, that he didn`t exactly enjoy shaking hands with that terror chieftain Arafat, but he was intent on walking the extra mile to try anything for peace. -I believe that Ehud Barak is a worthy heir, like his mentor, he knows when to risk it and when to hit really hard !

If I read postings like the ones statint that they are feeling happy Rabin is dead, I can see why there wont be peace in the near future. Why arent those creatures at least ashamed of feeling it apropriate that someone got murdered. I am talking about MURDER. Everyone has the right to discuss subjects, to disagree with peoples opinions, but this horrorstatements have nothing to do with it. And as long as people like those have something to say in Israel, peace wont come. Those people put themselves on the level of all those, they condemn. Where is the difference between a jew, who is applauding murder and an arabic suicidal bomber? there is none, cause they both feel its holy to murder. The world admired Rabin and Israel today would be well advised to keep its politics cleaner than it is right now. American Jews keep turning away from Israel because the politicians lack all dignity. And some writers here do, too. I spit out in front of those who justifie murder.

There are many Canaanites who believe that the Iraqi Hebrews STOLE the land, using a religious ruse to make their claim. As long as religious fanatics rule their countries, there will never be peace.

who told me that there were no more than 10000 and this is very typical for israeli left. i myself wrote to maariv in 1980about peacenow rally where maariv stated were 40000 people but i was there and there were much less than 1000.

"At the earliest possible date, the next Israeli government should convene a real investigation into the Rabin murder. There are hundreds of vital questions to be answered." Yes, indeed, many questions. One of those questions, for instance, is why hate filled ultra-orthodox are constitutionally unable to take responsibility for the predictable results of their spleen.

How do they know how many people were there? Did they sell tickets?

...when many of the kids who attended the rally wheren't even born yet on that fateful night, 12 years ago.

I am against Jew murdering Jew. But for the record, he was not MY prime minister, because he himself said that he was the prime minister of only 98% of the population. I'm in the other 2%.

is it too late to appeal yigal amir's sentence? if an appeal can be made to downgrade his life sentence to a nominated number of years, cannot an appeal be made equally to upgrade his sentence to the death penalty? this may be the only way to protect our fragile democracy from yigal amir's legacy and prevent the anniversary of rabin's assassination from becoming the assassin's anniversary.

I Have the Right to Protest against the Idolatry going on at Rabbin Square , against manipulating and brainwashing a generation of youngster for a cult potryayed as a fashion of the day policy that keeps greedy credit cards chasers lefties at official key positions , who exploit the name of Yigal Amir as a pretext for the rise of a Sodom and Gommorrah state in the misdt of our country in order to relieve the arab occupier murderous extortions , Stop leading astray the youngs , Stop the idolatry , the cult , the fabricated fashion , oust the key officials , end the murderous arab occupier threats, extortions and theft of our Homeland , Say NO to the Holocaust offering on the Mecca-Altar of Our Homeland and People

This year Islam and Judaism's Holiest Holidays overlapped for 10 days. During this time: Muslims racked up 397 dead bodies in 94 terror attacks in 10 countries. Jews obtained their 159th Nobel Prize Winner.

another War? for that is what will be if Israel does what George Bush and Condoleezza Rice want ...that which will give the US an air of Acnievement upon George's departure ... a Palestinian State!!! because no-one up till now has achieved such a thing. It was unfortunate that George Bush's days were difficult days what with 9/11 and the proof or the growing power of Islam slowly creeping in.. then the tyrant Saddam's capture when he was forced out of power and finally executed, a good thing for a tyrranical leader but a bad thing in a Country where it triggered the people to go back to their origin when they were but bedouins in the desert fighting and killing each other for thousands of years...... Indeed, these and many other trials and tribulatins were dark days for George Bush and it is doubtfull if he will not be unhappy to go back home, put on those breeches and get right back on that horse again .. but PLEASE not by SACRIFICING ISRAEL FOR IT ALL.

per the police, there were 80,000 and not 150,000

Annapolis can't solve anything until Arab extremists will reject their goal to split Isreal to many small pieces and finally eliminate the State of Israel.

According to Haaretz, the left always brings out the masses - never ever less than 100K, whereas the right maxes out at 30K (fringe lunatics). The point is, in the last 15 years, the left has to lie about its intentions (Oslo, Lebanon surrender, Gaza settlement destruction) prior to getting into office. If they told the truth ahead of time, they'd lose big time.

Exactly 33 years ago I attended a lecture on the JFK killing. That was 12 years after the event. Five thousand studends and faculty packed the University of Michigan's Hill Auditorium. When the speaker finished, everyone rose to their feet. Ideology doesn't kill. Well executed covert ops do. Why are Israelies not pursuing the truth as Americans did? Because in Israel ideology rules. Not truth. Too bad.

At the earliest possible date, the next Israeli government should convene a real investigation into the Rabin murder. There are hundreds of vital questions to be answered. Questions about inconsistencies in the reported time of the murder, drive to the hospital, number and locatin of bullets and on and on. Israel's soul will not find peace till we know the answers. We DO KNOW the Rabin-Peres government was up to it's eyeballs in attempts to demonize Jewish patriots and had a well known agent provacateur involved in the Rabin murder. It would not be the least surprising if the trail lead to the highest echelons of the Labour Party. Peres and Labour were the biggest beneficiaries of the Rabin murder.

HAARETZ AND THE REST OF THE LEFT WING WOULD SAY ITS 200,000 OR 300,000 OR 500,000!EITHER WAY....EVEN IF THERE ARE A MILLION LEFT-WINGERS THERE THAT LEAVES AT LEAST 4 MILLION RIGHT-WING JEWS WHO ARE NOT!LET IT BE KNOWN THAT HAD RABIN LIVED TO SEE PERES' PEACE TODAY HE WOULD BE AGAINST IT.NEVER FORGET THAT RABIN WAS A GENERAL AND NOT A POLITICIAN WHO DEEP DOWN INSIDE NEVER LIKED PERES.

Yuval Rabin, who in his own words has never made a speech at the annual rally in the 12 years since his father died, made the strongest speech of the evening. Sounds like a new voice on the political horizon.

Israel does, Judeostan doesn't!

Of course I am (virtualy) take part of this sad sad memory. Which folk singer said "dont look back" ?(*) Any jew has to look back if dont want to become insane... CLOD (*) Boby Dylan or Johny cash or Monte caspi? only one choice is allowed

Well I try to put it positivly. At the same time French TV news 20:15 said that more than 28% of istaelian would be in favor of release of Igal Amir. It is not acceptable for me. Far away from Eretz in France. Is this 28% correct ? If yes maybee I stay in France despite Sarko and his willingness to put everybody in Aftala. I am not in a good lode I shouls say I have a bervous breakdown so please tell me that French TV lies about Igal (presented as a rock star now). On Arte you see palestinian chidren working on an israelian garbage just to live. OH when too much is too much what to do thank you for your help and support Allez salut shalom et tout et tout

According to the article Barak hopes Annapolis will succeed with all his heart. Great. But, succeed at what? Probably, his hope is that Annapolis will succeed at further delaying the creation of a Palestinian state, give more time for settlements to be built and expanded, and prove once more (to his followers) that we have no one to negotiate with.

Or 98% of the population.

Lehaim haver. He liked vodka, nu?

Fayad should show up and say so at the tonight Tel Aviv rally , Peres should call for peace with Syria now that Syria cleaned up the secret nuclear site , Peres surely thinks it is 'Rabbin's way'

Yeah 150,000 people ! Peace is living !!!!!

There will never be peace while only one side wants it. This is what these people just don't get. The Arab does not want Israel's existence. This is the core of the problem, going back to 48. In examining their minimal demands, nothing has changed since Camp David..in fact, they are more strident now, wanting the no-mans land that existed prior to 67. They forget why Israel is in the so-called territories. Had Israel lost one war, we would not now be negotiating. The right of return has been mis-interpreted continually. There is no such right. What about the rights of 700,000 Jews forced out of their homes throughout No. Africa with no compensation? UN 242, not the Road Map, is really where it's at. So far, peace is a mirage. The PALs have done nothing in decades to prove they want peace. We here the same rhetoric from them...land for peace. Nonsense. Give them land (Gaza Strip) and they want more land and promote more war. They are benefitting from the naive in Israel.

....the same Shimon Peres who stated about a week ago that Jerusalem would remain forever the undivided capital of Israel. That says all about the contradiction and disruption within the Israeli society of 2007. Nevertheless, congratulations to the 150'000 who attended the rally. Well done, folks.

12 years since Yigal Amir saved the country. Tempus fugit!