Pro-marijuana party tells supporters: Pot smoking forbidden on Passover

Smoking pot during any holiday is encouraged by moi, especially Passover! Perhaps this is what God really meant by a burnt offering....for the smell is much more appealing :D. Oh yeah, and right on Seth!

AND OUR GOVERNMENT. THE ONLY THING LACKING IS IT'S BEING LEGAL. IF IT WERE LEGAL, WE'D WIPE OUT OUR NATIONAL DEBT IN LESS THAN A YEAR.

all kidding aside there are people dying/ in severe pain and grass is the best medicine . ask an oncologist..........and the law doesn't care. all that going up in smoke hurts when i have to scrounge around for people suffering. green leaf party where are you??

Does this mean green leaf political party supports peaceful and equal relations with the Arab neighbors. This is important since the vast majority of hash and bud is imported, better relations mean cheaper and better quality product.

I have been reading these posts, and this online publication for the first time today and with great interest. I'm wondering if it's possible this entire argument was started on a misnomer: leavening and leaves still have to go together somewhere, don't they? Here's how: hops! I know this from experience, as it happens, for I have made bread starter in this way. (I live way out on the reservation, and it's a good thing to know..) Back in the days before packaged yeast, many people did this. The line between the baker and brewer is made only of flour, after all. You can take a cup of strong hops tea, mix in some flour and a little mashed potato and leave it on the kitchen counter for a few days - and you will get a horrible substance that you'd never believe would make good bread, but it does. Hops were, as far as I know anyway, the earliest and most widely used method of making a yeast sponge. So, do you all think it possible there could have been a mix-up between hemp and hop?

First, I must ask why Haaretz published the AP story instead of interviewing me. It's not as if you don't all know who I am here. #5 Shalom and #6 Steve, you're right. I was incorrect and you don't have to get rid of it, you just have to stash your kitniot. Curious, yes it's very accepted here, but there's still strong public resistance to legalization. We couldn't argue with kashrut.com when the media asked us if grass is kitniot. Ale Yarok is not a bunch of rabbis - yes, we are hopeful politicians who seek to make change in Israel! I asked kashrut.com why cannabis is kitniot and they said, "The Chicago Rabbinical Council has said that the seeds and pod are kitniot for Ashkenazim This is based on sefer Siddur Pesach Kehilchoso page 184. The leaves are no problem. However, the seeds and pods are usable for Sephardim. All acceptance is based on the law of the land." Ale Yarok will legalize marijuana in Israel, I promise it.

THAT SEEDED MARY JANE U GET FROM THE BEDIOUNE DOES NOT COME CLOSE TO SENSIMEELIA..SENSIMEELIA IS SEEDLESS MARY-JANE BUT JUST WITH MORE CRYSTALS AND BUD!! IF SEEDED IS WHAT U SMOKE GOOD 4 U..!!! TO ALL THE TOKERS HAVE A GREAT 4:20 AND REMEMBER J DAY!!!

Sensimellia sucks man! Its all about mary jane¬

And G-d said thou shalt consume the reefa, be it in a doobie or in your lunchtime sandwich. He who objects shall be smote to the ground by lightning.

What about herbs?!?!?!?! Green herbs???? and spinach???? and green tea????? ;)

Kaneh Bosm is one of the ingredients in Moses' holy oil and is sacred and Blessed 365 days per year.

i think they make matzo meal bissli, nu?

It is sad that items like pesticide laden fruit and diabetes inducing sugary children's foods, (not to mention sweat shop produced products) are all endorsed by Jewish "spiritual" authorities as allowable. Much of the rabbinical kashrut system is life-denying and needs a total overhaul so that non-destructive items only are "kosher" for Jews to eat or use.

Can someone translate "reply to#7 smoking on Yom Tov" into English for me? Sounds interesting and all, but Joe from Baltimore presumed that all readers speak Hebrew.

pro-marijuana party my @SS!!!! they r only trying to score points as a political party!!!!! JAH MADE THE HERB FOR MAN!!! GROW SENSIMEELIA---AND STOP BUYING SHITE WEED!!

The simple answer to your question is "no." Smoking marijuana has never been an accepted thing in traditional Jewish culture. The fact that its not expressely forbidden under Jewish law doesn't mean religious Jews consider it an acceptable practice. There are halachot that have to do with health that some poskim extend to smoking (of anything) in order to forbid it, but that's not universal. In some sephardic circles chewing khat is considered a normative social interaction among men - sometimes while learning gemara - but even this was never a wide-spread custom among sephardic Jews, and is on the decline in modern Israel. In other words: the poster you are responding to is an uninformed blow-hard.

Even if it was kosher for pesach, there would still be the problem of wanting to eat Bamba and Bissli after smoking...

smoking is not considered like eating (you can smoke on tisha beAv and you dont say brachot on smoking) hence smoking kitniot is not forbidden per se (unlike eating kitniot is). Since the possession of kitniot is not forbidden either as they are not sold to non-jews but only stored away, I think this ruling is halachicly wrong. I remain unconvinced.

Curious you should first learn to read and follow proper research. Search for the way the Israeli parlament is being elected and sea how many seats need to be won in order to gain one mendate. Now you will see how many did the Green Leaf party has won. You will see that although it gathers momentum, as Canabis smokers have through out the world, it is still a minority. If anything I will support ligalising it so that smoking it can be followed and you will not have to get uninspected material. It will help control the habbit as it has in Amsterdam. Smoking pot is a part of the rastafarian religion (not a mast but a given right) it is not part of our religion more than it is part of yours as your religion is based upon ours.

But Maimon, angel dust??? Surely with a name like that it would be kosher L'everything.

Narcotic drug use is against Hallacha in any case, they may as well debate whether Angel Dust is kosher lePesach. It is not kosher anything.

Hey Saar, Pull a cone for me will ya. I havnt seen it in Sydney for years. Haag Sameach

Did you read the article? "and more recent rulings have further expanded the ban to include hemp seeds, which today are found in some health oils - and in marijuana". The ban is because of its use in some health oils, not because weed is integral to the culture. Its like non kosher cheese is also not suitable to eat at any time because it contains renit, that is derived from amimal enzyme.(possibly pig).Its not the cheese thats forbiden.

Am I free to smoke Hash during the holiday? I actually much prefer Hash over grass and certainly, breakling a rule isn't something I would do....ok, I'll stick to Hash. Glad I cleared that up. Where is my lighter.........

EVERYBODY who knows anything about halacha knows that 1)kitniyot was only forbidden to eat BUT benefit in any way other than eating was never banned.- Ask ANY Posek in Meah Shearim. 2)Where is Hemp listed in any of the classic categories of Legumes? The custom dates back to the Rishonim (approx 1000-1500)any later editions to the list are LOCAL and by no stretch of the imagination falls under the general ban, just as some chareidim use cottonseed and others don't.

do I have to sell my pot to a goy during Pessach?

Smoking is not b'derech achilah, i.e. we don't eat cigarettes and tobacco is not roi achilas calev, i.e. it's not edible even by a dog. Kitniot, of course, need not be sold. If it were you could get your Rabbi arrested for involvement in selling 'pot.'

When did the Rabbinate remove the prohibition of Kitniot for Ashkenazim? Here in Britain frum Sephardim often adopt the prohibition in order to fit into mainstream Orthodox circles. To Aussie #16 'Pot' is definitely not a Jewish custom, but one we have acquired from the wider world!

Ok, first we found out that certain fishfood is banned during Pesach.(The whole worm versus cricket thing) and now this! What else will we allow the "powers that be" in the Halachic circles to ban? I could see if they said don't light up on Shabbat (or keep it lit the entire time) but if we ban greens then we have to change the whole bitter herb thing, too. If Hipolito is correct, then maybe I am now a reform Green Leaf party person and I take my vote for them back!

I am actually studying to become a drug counsellor. while researching i came across your site... I'm Catholic so i don't know very much about your religion... but are you trying to say that smoking pot is a jewish religious or socially accepted thing across your culture?

Not all Marijuana use is recreational. Would using it to ward off nausea and to stimulate appetite be an appropriate use during Pesach? Are there any other substances used as medicine that are banned as Chometz? What about the Sephardim, do they ignore it or approve f it's use?

Don't forget, that according to Jewish law, fruits and vegetables grown in Israel, need Trumot and Maasrot taken on them

And pass a Tithe?

I am not sure these are the kinds of Leaves they had in mind.

My USA Jew view. ( I know you guys/gals don't give a rat's ass ) .. but here goes.. First of all, I have gratitude and grateful feelings to you for your discipline in following your religious beliefs. I am Jewish- but rather "relaxed" about my worship. I am also a believer in pot use!.. I am not a member of any pro-pot organization mainly because I am usually baked and would not consider motivating to actually get there and participate. I also think pot smoke is better for you than cigarette smoke ( by far).. and if the world smoked more pot and less cigarettes we would most likely be a much healthier planet (and happier too). I also smoke way more cigarettes than I ever could smoke pot. There are spiritual and creative and medicinal benefits from moderate use- at least in my experiences and many if not most USA citizens have tried this rather benign drug. What interested me in what I have read is that I never knew that hemp was even mentioned in Jewish religion.

Jack -- It would be permissible in the Temple service context you mention, as one may benefit from Kitnios (Legumes) on Pesakh, just not consume it. This is as opposed to Chometz itself, which one may neither consume nor derive benefit from. (This, as mentioned, applies to Ashkenazim).

What better a substance to take on celebrating liberation from slavery in Egypt than the Hash of Hashem. Gypsies were there too, and they're still slaves, and I'm sure they would agree too. The Herb of Genesis. Isn't alcohol a much more insidious drug. Don't think of Babylon, think of Zion... OIL BELONGS TO THE FEW... THE SUN BELONGS TO ALL... Regards, Daniel Garcia.

this view is to orthodox man

Where is the "kosher for pesach" lable on cigaretts. It"s also a smoked drug.

Even if help seed was kitniot (which it's not), and even if you decided that you should not smoke it on Pesach (which you need not do), you certainly do not need to remove it from your posession -- you don't even have to do that with kitniot mamash. This article is ridiculous.

Michelle Levine is incorrect in the second half of her statement: Kitnioth cannot be consumed, but there's no ban on its possession, as there would be were it actual Chometz. I'm not sure if smoking it is considered consumption, either: ask your local rabbi. Not that I advocate the use of cannabis in any way, I just wanted to set the record straight. Just don't burn it with the chometz, or you'll get the whole city stoned...

There are small fires lit everywhere, in every nighborhood, before the onset of passover to get rid of the leavened foods. There will now be a 'special' ingredient added so the air will be filled with marijuana smoke, and the entire nation of Israel is gonna be high.

"You shouldn't smoke marijuana on the holiday, and if you have it in your house you should get rid of it" [Levine] Sounds like a big party before Passover :o)

also, is cannabis definetly a legume? hemp seed, maybe. i'm pretty sure ashkenzim eat plants that grow from seeds during passover...

Personally, I oppose marijuana drug use, but surely we all want reasonable and rational regulations for it. The article notes that hemp seed was forbidden, as a later extention of the Ashkenazi prohibition of the dreaded "legumes". But the Israeli rabbinate abolished this "legume" prohibition to allow Ashkenazim to eat in Sephardi homes over the holidays, to foster fellowship between the two groups, right? So if legumes are now permissible for Ashkenazi Israelis, then by extention, the hemp seeds would be permissable too? (And hemp was always permissable for Sephardim.) The Tora requires the use of marijuana/hemp, under the Hebrew name "Kane Bosem" (ie canabis) or simply "Kana" in specific contexts. Hemp oil is in a special anointing oil to polish the items in the Tabernacle, and IIRC to anoint the Kohen Ha'Gadol. Of course, these doses are extremely low, and not for recreational drug use. But would the Ark of the Covenant not be kosher during Pesakh?!