Portugal summons Iranian envoy over Holocaust comments

Haaretz has sunk to a new low when it allows people like Hollingsworth to allow comments like this in a Jewish paper in order to get ratings. Hollingsworth is not the problem it is Haaretz They will allow anything to be said for the sake of ratings even if it means demeaning the holocaust.This will be my last letter to Haaretz because I am no longer a reader of this paper

Ah what asuckers we've been. At first I thought Hollingsworth was an Haaretz editor paid to stir things up; You know like "realitic". But I have a new theory. Hollingsworth is some computer-science major's senior project. As an adaptive program, it does the following things: 1) Hollingsworth.bin uses automated search software to find, download, parse, analyze, and catagorize text from anti-semetic web sites. 2) Simulanteously, Hollingsworth.bin posts and watches postings on Haaretz. 3) There must be some brilliant coding, because regardless of the topic, Hollingsworth points it back to the fault of the Jews. 4) But to what end? When hollingsworth.bin first started posting, it was heavily laden with religious quotes and thoughts of good will. Then a there were thoughts of good will combined with a distrust for Israel. Then it dispensed with good will altogether, skipped simply disliking Jews and has gone straight to stupifying Jew Hatred. It needs its variables tweaked.

You are free to write what you want here. No one will arrest you in NY for what you say there. I guess you're talking about Europe where there are specific statuory measures that outlaw certain types of behavior related to Holocaust denile. Cite us a law from anywhere on the planet that makes it, as you say,"illegal to question anything about the Holocaust".

Does 6,10, 26 or 1 million people killed makes a difference?. It is wrong, even if it was one or ten, jew, christian, muslim, budhist, or atheist. That is the point, not numbers. Babies cries when they want attention, my question is why Iran, suddenly, is doing all this worldwide media confrontation and exacerbation? Instability in Iraq, Lebanon and Hezbolla current politics, and Iran's stand off about uranium are all parts of a larger puzzle that includes oil, lots of money, and power. We are experiencing a long struggle that started in the 70s-80's and will carry on. Military action will not be a long term solution, media-political-economical culturally driven actions will affect the end of this crash of civilizations.

So Joseph is sold by his brothers as a slave and brought to Egypt. He is intelligent, handsome beyond, a seer of dreams. His own brothers want to kill him. He becomes Viceroy of Egypt, and creates wealth that put Egypt and Pharoah on the map. Suddenly love of Joseph by the Egyptians as time goes on turns to jealousy. Pharoah decrees kill all the male children, kill the Jews .."wipe them out". G-D brings plagues and like removing a hair from a milk glass he saves the Jews from those who want to kill them. Will the world ever learn...Pharoah tried, so did the Amelikites, Nebuchadnezzar, Titus, Haman, and let's not forget the incest-spawned Austrian Charlie Chaplain impersonator who couldn't sell a painting on Ebay..and then you have this achmedkissmybutt from Iran.Is Achmedkissmybutt GREATER than Pharoah..they worshipped him as G-D himself! What's in a name? First 2 letters of G-D's name are YUD HE. We are the CHILDREN of Yud He, Yehudim. That doesn't sit well with most non-yehudim!

Despite your name, English must be your second language. Nobody said that all of the victims of the Holocaust were creamated. If you read #4, Jews were killed in many other ways. When don't you do the goose step and march right out of this blog. I hear Tehran is beautiful this time of year.

please!

" According to calculations by the German authorities, 1,440 corpses could be burned in this crematorium every 24 hours." - Hanan to Hollingsworth Don't confuse him with the facts. It is clear he has never familiarized himself with the evidence the Germans themselves produced. . . .

"..to expose oneself as a fool is to allege that 6 million Jews were, first of all, exterminated, . . ." - Hollingsworth Allegations are not necessary. The Germans kept good records and many of them survived. ". . . on top of that, to imply, to infer, or to state outright, that each of these 6 million victims was reduced to ashes in crematoria." - Hollingsworth Most were not. Far more were disposed of in mass graves than were cremated. "Do you honestly believe that?" - Hollingsworth Belief is the state or habit of mind in which trust or confidence is placed in someone or something. Or, it is conviction of the truth of some statement or the reality of some being or pehnomenon especially when based upon examination of evidence. The evidence for the Holocaust is overwhelming.

Hollingsworth, what do you think - HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE TO BURN YOU IN MY BARBEQUE? WOULD YOU LIKE TO TRY?

"It is legal to offend Muslems by degrating the prophet Mohammed, but it is illegal to question anything about the Holocaust? Those are some strange standards of free speech." - Dan from NY The cartoons were an example of bad taste. Free Speech is best preserved and protected by a bit of discretion. In the case of Holocaust denial, you have fools proving that they are fools. The body of evidence is simply too immense and diverse. Ambassador Mohammed Taheri may have visited Auschwitz and Birkenau, but he is ignorant of the facts. Cremation was not the only means, simply another, later means, of disposing of bodies. I recently read a screed I stumbled across while researching German underground factory and military installations of WW II. It argued that there was no 'evidence' of the Holocaust, and that the 'gas chambers' were actually 'gas shelters' incase the Allies dropped gas on the concentration camps. . . There are motives and motivations far beyond reason or reasoning.

Why you allow hollingsworth to post here when he is clearly a neo nazi is a sign of political correctness gone mad.His views do not deserve any respect, as his views are based on contempt for others.and the furthering of that contempt.He does not deserve to be treated by the usual lawsof humanity as he is at war with those laws.It cheapens your site to have such a low and filthy pig posting to post here.Thank you.

Whcih all goes to "prove" your Nazi lies and holocaust denial right?You are filth,a maggot in the flesh of humanity.

It is legal to offend Muslems by degrating the prophet Mohammed, but it is illegal to question anything about the Holocaust? Those are some strange standards of free speech.

You're right. But we must still stand up to them and their delusions.

From the Auschwitz museum website itself: "The Crematorium III building, which contained a gas chamber and furnaces for burning corpses. According to calculations by the German authorities, 1,440 corpses could be burned in this crematorium every 24 hours. According to the testimony of former prisoners, the figure was higher. The gas chamber and Crematorium III functioned from June 1943 through November 1944." {my note here-this raises the possibility that over the course of only one year, over 525,600 people could have been cremated in this crematorium alone 365 days X 1,440). This figure is in stark contrast to the number you propose to be ~100,000. "At the end of the war, the camp authorities ordered the demolition of the furnaces and crematorium building in November 1944. On January 20, 1945, the SS blew up whatever had not been removed."

"The only thing that the types of people like Hollingsworth understand is a bullet betweeen the eyes." Well said Naftali anf to Haaretz: Why do you allow this holocaust denier to post on this board. This is against your guidelines.

After much thought I narrowed it down to the following options; A. this person is totally abyssimal at maths and his personal assitant cannot aid him any. B. he is racist C. lacks common sense to see the world is unhappy with his president, the country's "policy" and his miscalculations and does not know when to keep quiet. D. All of the above If A, B, C or especially D is the case...this person should be put on the list of people to be reviewed for removal from office. actually, if we are at it...perhaps we should locate people which suffer from this policy counting disorder syndrum (PCDS) and put them up for...review?

Why does anyone even bother to communicate with people like this? You think that a Holocaust denier is looking for facts or logic? You think that with your statements to these bigots, they will turn and say "Oh, you are right, I have been wrong all along and I apologize to the Jewish people" The only thing that the types of people like Hollingsworth understand is a bullet betweeen the eyes. We Israelis now know how to fight, so I laugh at people like Hollingsworth.

'they burnt hundreds in each crematorian" Please direct me to a photo of a crematorium with a capacity for the burning of "hundreds" of victims at one time. I don't expect any help from you in this regard. A person who refers to "each crematorian" obviously is just blowing smoke. What is a "crematorian" anyway? I thought it might be a machine for separating cream from milk. But no such entry was found in my dictionary.

http://www.oxfordresearchgroup.org.uk/publications/briefings/IranConsequences.pdf

the are numbers: 6.1 mln -international tribunal, 1946 based on dem statistic and german documents; 7.4 mln himmler documents, his definition of jew was ample, it did include famous catholics for example; 6.9 mln published in 1998by official british doc. minimal number given by respected scolar is 4.7 mln but he did not consider partzans, a lot of getto dwellers and he discounted natural death-very high in circumstances.

If it was an individual making such statements, I wouldn't mind slapping some sense into him. But coming from the leaders of countries (Iran, Syria), I guess the only other option is to laugh at them and hope the international arena will do it for me. But the real answer I guess is faith in God. We will overcome Iran just as we have overcome everything else in our history.

According to my calculations, it would have taken this illiterate moron fifteen years to make his calculations. No wonder he was so far off.

They are trying to divert attention from their making atomic bombs....however, we are staying in the topic because if History has not entered Iran it certainly is not world's fault. They should just catch up or shut up. If they don't they are the ones looking silly and ridiculous. But we are staying in the topic. Iran must not have nuclear weapons. No matter what!!

..to expose oneself as a fool is to allege that 6 million Jews were, first of all, exterminated, and then, on top of that, to imply, to infer, or to state outright, that each of these 6 million victims was reduced to ashes in crematoria. Do you honestly believe that?

Holocaust deniers make a point that it would have been impossible to burn the bodies of 6 million people---not every victim of the genocide against Jews was burnt---hundreds of thousands were shot in mass killings before concentration camps were put in operation, in addition, countless rural Jewish villagers were executed on sight---the figure of 6 million is deduced from population census and German lists. It may very well be that the actual number of victims is much higher then 6 million.

good for Portugal for standing up to the neo nazi iranian ambasider. BTW portigal is a loverly place to visit

hollingsworth - silly indeed. obviously you've never visited the crematoria and seen the size of them - your simple arithmetic fails to take one tiny weeny point into consideration, they didn't burn one corpse at a time, they burnt hundreds in each crematorian - and they had as many as 4 all working at the same time - and this is Auschwitz alone.

Although Auschwitz was one of the major extermination camps operated by the Nazis, it was by no means the only one. The ambassador, if he so wishes, can get all that information from multiple objective sources. Going through accepted diplomatic channels, as was done by the government of Portugal, might be the best solution to the crisis. Thank you Portugal.

What are you saying exactly Hollingsworth? Are you among those who believe the Holocaust is an exaggerated claim? Or a giant hoax? So all the Holocaust survivors I ever met only needed to go back to Poland or Hungary or the Ukraine to find all their long lost relatives? Even by your own math, keeping in mind that that there was more than one crematorium in all of the Third Reich and that the initial phase of the Holocaust involved shooting people by huge burial pits, getting to 6 million would have posed no problem at all. The Nazis themselves kept meticulous records regarding the number of people transported and exterminated. To deny this is beyond malicious. It's to expose oneself as a fool.

Not every psycho is Iranian, but it seems these days every Iranian is a psycho! Why are they so obsessed by us? There is a joke about a famous Dutch television star, jewish. Once, when German tourists in the center of Amsterdam asked him where the Anne Frank House was, he replied: 'If you want to hid, find yourself a place, idiots'!. To the Iranians I would like to say: Don't blame others for being civilised, but give it a try yourself!

The Iranian ambassador is, of course, wrong. If, indeed, 6 million Jewish corpses were cremated, (which of course didn't happen), I make the following calculations: Assuming that the crematoria are running full tilt, 24 hours round the clock, at 2000 degrees Fahrenheit, the heat generated by modern retorts with forced air, and assuming one corpse can be reduced to ashes in 1.25 hours, or 19.2 corpses in a 24 hour time period, the Nazis, in fifteen years, would have managed only to have cremated, at the maximum, 105,120 victims. And given all the necessary shut-down and maintenance problems along the way, the number of cremated corpses would have been a lot less than that over 15 years. It's all so silly!

If you do not stop these nonpersian invaders inside Iran they will desteroy the rest of the world just like they did that to us Persians. There are more than 4 million Iranian refugees all over the world and our country is being used as a base to wage war on the world. Great countries have great responsibilities and they must act fast. God bless you all