• Published 00:00 18.03.07
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Poll: Over 25% of Israeli Arabs say Holocaust never happened

University of Haifa survey also reveals that nearly two-thirds of Israeli Jews avoid entering Arab towns.

By Fadi Eyadat

More than a quarter of Israel's Arab citizens believe the Holocaust never happened, and nearly two thirds of Israeli Jews avoid entering Arab towns, a poll by a University of Haifa sociologist showed Sunday.

The poll, conducted by Sami Smoocha, a prominent sociologist at the University of Haifa, showed a wide gap of mistrust, anger and fear between Israel's majority Jews and its Arab citizens, who make up a fifth of Israel's citizens.

In its most dramatic finding, the poll showed that 28 percent of Israeli Arabs did not believe the Holocaust happened, and that among high school and college graduates the figure was even higher - 33 percent.

According to Smoocha's analysis, radicals in the Arab world believe the Holocaust to be a political event, and many feel that by denying it they are expressing opposition to Israel.

Among Israeli Jews, 63 percent said they avoid entering Arab towns and cities, and 68 percent fear the possibility of civil unrest among Israeli Arabs.

Pollsters interviewed 721 Arabs and 702 Jews. The margin of error was 3.7 percentage points. Asked about Israel's war with Hezbollah guerrillas in Lebanon last summer, nearly half of the Israeli Arabs polled - 48 percent - said they believe that Hezbollah's rocket attacks on towns in northern Israel during that war were justified, even though numerous Arabs were killed and wounded in those attacks.

While 89 percent said they view Israel's bombing of Lebanon as a war crime, only 44 percent said they see Hezbollah's attacks on Israel as such. Hezbollah pelted northern Israel with nearly 4,000 rockets.

Half of Israeli Arab respondents said Hezbollah's capture of Israel Defense Forces reserves soldiers Ehud Goldwasser and Eldad Regev in a cross-border raid was justified. That incident sparked the 34-day conflict.

In a press release accompanying the poll's publication, Smoocha expressed surprise at the results.

"One would have expected more pro-Israeli results among Israeli Arabs due to the uniqueness of the most recent war: a war with no involvement of the Palestinians, a war in which the lives and belongings of Israelis were endangered, a war against an Islamic fundamentalist group that most of them don't support," Smoocha said.

MK Ahmed Tibi (United Arab List-Ta'al) said he doubted some of the findings. Tibi said he could not explain the numbers indicating support for Hezbollah, but noted that usually there is no empathy for the aggressor, which Tibi said was Israel.

Tibi also said he doubted that the statistics on Holocaust denial reflect the situation in the Arab elite. Tibi called the Holocaust the worst crime ever against humanity and said Holocaust denial is immoral.

But some of the sentiments, he said, "might stem from reservations about the way the Holocaust is used as a political tool by Israel."

The poll also found that Israeli Arabs have fears about their future in Israel: 62 percent worry that Israel could transfer their communities to the jurisdiction of a future Palestinian state, an idea supported by one of the parties in Israel's current governing coalition. Sixty percent said they are concerned about a possible mass expulsion.

Among the Arab respondents, 76 percent described Zionism as racist.

But more than two thirds said they would be content to live in Israel as a Jewish state, if it existed alongside a Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

MK Ahmed Tibi (Archives)

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  • 166. 0 0
    156: Because, Dino, they don't wish to
    • David Teich
    • 20.03.07
    • 13:19

    The Arabs, especially Pals, are aware of what their Grand Mufti of JErusalem did during WWII. If they were to admit what Hitler did, they'd have to admit the complicity of their religion through one of their key leaders. Just as the Turks still won't admit what happened to the Armenians, Maureen Ann and others won't admit to the treatment of aboriganals, Arabs aren't ready to make that leap. You're right, it would be nice if they could. Sadly, you still, on many posts, think that wishes are sufficient.

  • 165. 0 0
    #40: Palestinians by Mohammed
    • Brad
    • 19.03.07
    • 22:44

    You are so right. It was refreshing to finally read something intelligent. Isn't it quite interesting that 2/3 of Arabs would live in Isreal as a Jewish state even if there was a Palestinian State next door? Apparently, Arabs feel safer and have a better chance of making a good living in Isreal than living in a state controlled by the Hamas terrorists.

  • 164. 0 0
    to Israeli
    • the pope
    • 19.03.07
    • 21:51

    Dear, pig is a very intelligent and nice animal. I am sorry that I cannot say the same about you. Now, the simple question for you: does the fact that your are eating beef mean that you have horns? LOL

  • 163. 0 0
    # 156 David Teich
    • Swiss (Dino)
    • 19.03.07
    • 19:26

    Well, David I think it would be at least worth a try. To be honest, it's probably the only chance that the Arabs will ever learn to accept the existence of Israel in the region. Because I don't believe that they will ever respect and understand Israels historical claim for the holy land. But if they learn to comprehend the tremendous horror, the Jewish people had to go through during WW2, they might be able to accept that the Jews need a home where they can live in safety and tranquillity. That's the main reason why I do support a predominantly Jewish Israel. And why shouldn't they also be able to reach the same conclusion...??

  • 162. 0 0
    If Arabs don't mind Terrorist Arabs firing rockets...
    • Psalm
    • 19.03.07
    • 18:17

    ...at civilians Arabs, what makes Jews believe that these Arabs don't applaude the bombs killing Jews?! Or do Israeli Jews think that Israeli Arabs are more sympathic to them and less so to Israeli Arabs?! I think the opposite is true.

  • 161. 0 0
    # 114 In that post I was asking Jews
    • TOMY
    • 19.03.07
    • 15:45

    To explain to me ,why should we be disturbed, if our enemies denie hollocost?? It does not bother me at all. I am a child of hollocost survivors.

  • 160. 0 0
    more than two thirds said they would be content to live in Israel
    • there ya go
    • 19.03.07
    • 15:13

    Look how awful & terrible it must be in Israel - that oh so evil state: "more than two thirds of Israeli Arabs said they would be content to live in Israel as a Jewish state, if it existed alongside a Palestinian state" If is is so terrible....why would they stay. enough lies. enough pure blatant anti-semitism by the ultra left. Israel is just fine, thanks.

  • 159. 0 0
    # 156 David Teich
    • Swiss (Dino)
    • 19.03.07
    • 15:07

    Well, David, I think it would be at least worth a try. To be honest, I even believe it might be the only chance to achieve that the majority of Arabs will ever accept Israel in the ME. I am afraid they will never do it based only on the historical claims of the Jewish people to the holy land. But they might be willing to do it, if they learn to realize and accept the horrors the Jews had to go through during WW2 and the essential need for them to have a home, where they can live in safety and tranquillity. Actually that is the main reason why I can fully support the idea that Israel should remain a predominantly Jewish state. And why shouldn't the Arabs finally come to the same conclusion...

  • 158. 0 0
    Big deal
    • bill
    • 19.03.07
    • 13:59

    Big deal. That just proves Israeli Arab society is normal. After all, the most extreme 25% of any population or society in the world are idiots.

  • 157. 0 0
    139: So Fortuna says one violent nut justifies another?
    • David Teich
    • 19.03.07
    • 13:10

    Nope,doesn't work that way. Kahane didn't use comparisons, tables or lists of events. He used his own radical interpretation of the Torah to propose radical violent actions. He was acting unthinkingly, just as do the Arabs. They both know what they want, and pick and choose pieces of reality to justify their demanded course of action. Violent nuts on both extremes should be fought.

  • 156. 0 0
    154: Sadly, Dino, plenty of deniers have been to Auschwitz
    • David Teich
    • 19.03.07
    • 13:08

    The most famous, David what's-his-name, from Canada claims to use scrapings he made almost 60 years after the war to "prove" Auschwitz didn't happen. I hope you're right, and I think you are when it comes to people on the fence. However, it's not going to change anyone's mind; and mind changing is what's needed here.

  • 155. 0 0
    # 9 Palestinian - how you can be sure.
    • Paul
    • 19.03.07
    • 11:08

    You have access to the internet, use it. How can you be sure? On march 13, 1942 Quisling (who you may have heard of) reinstated (!) the "Jew paragaraph" in our constitution. It denied all jews permission to be in Norway. Subsequently all jews (those that did not escape) were deported to Auschwitz. Of 767 jews only 27 survived. These are well documented facts that all norwegian historians hold as true. In my town it is a well-known fact that the store of a jewish family (Plesansky) was confiscated and given to a nazi-friendly competitor. The Plesansky family was deported, and only one survived. I remember my grandmother shaking her head and, with pain in her voice, saying: "Oh, that poor little jewish girl," referring to a young girl that was deported (possibly Mina Plesansky). Most witnesses are dead now, but if you are honest and want the truth, the Holocaust is one of the best documented facts of history. So the question is: Why don't you want to believe?

  • 154. 0 0
    # 146 Claudia and Nephtaly
    • Swiss (Dino)
    • 19.03.07
    • 10:39

    Claudia and Nephtaly, I still believe that a certain shock-therapy sometimes can do miracles. It is a very different thing whether you read about the Holocaust in a school-book, or whether you visit Auschwitz or Treblinka. And I don't think that Arab brains are so different from Christian or Jewish brains. Eventually they are also human beings, reacting both to caressness and violence....

  • 153. 0 0
    Well if they can convince themselves that Israel does not exist
    • PETER SM
    • 19.03.07
    • 10:22

    The sky is the limit for self deception.

  • 152. 0 0
    HEY KA
    • alonitzafoni
    • 19.03.07
    • 10:18

    LET DENY THE ARABS EVER FLED SO CALLED PALESTINE!!!WHY ARE THERE SOME ARAB VILLAGES IN ISRAEL TODAY!!!WHAT ARAB IN HIS RIGHT MIND WANTS TOO LIVE IN ISRAEL??? A DOSE OF YOUR MEDICINE DOPESNT TASTE GOOD EITHER

  • 151. 0 0
    to Marcel # 13
    • gabe
    • 19.03.07
    • 10:01

    We do not have to visit Yad Vashem (though I did) or Aushwitz. We already have been there...

  • 150. 0 0
    Marilyn.
    • David Nigel Braham
    • 19.03.07
    • 09:57

    If you realy knew history you would never have written what you wrote. When I was a young boy in Australia,alot of the friends that my parents had were holocaust survivers.have you ever seen the tattoo on the wrist of an holocaust surviver?probably not,I can assure you it is not a nice thing having to see this tattoo every day of your life,knowing why it was put there and how lucky you were to have survived.Six million did not,plus the non Jews.So I suggest before you write on certain subjects,check your information. The fact that many Arabs do not beleive that the holocaust happened,is because of the misinformation given to them by arab propaganda. Most of the arabs that left Israel in 1948,left because of arab propaganda,by the grand mufti of Jerusalem Ali Husseini.He said leave or be killed by the jews,we will return after and rid palestine of the jews.They tried in 1948 and failed.

  • 149. 0 0
    135: GZLives, and don't forget the Mufti andthe SS
    • David Teich
    • 19.03.07
    • 09:23

    The Mufti, at the personal request of Hitler, went to the Balkans to get the Muslim community to form SS units that were critical in killing the Jews of the region. It's also a critical part of the legacy that led to the mutual genocide in Bosnia and Croatia as Yugoslavia broke up.

  • 148. 0 0
    That's why they want separate education
    • David Teich
    • 19.03.07
    • 09:21

    The number's too low and the Arabs want to get it up above 50%.

  • 147. 0 0
    Marcel and visiting the big world
    • Claudia
    • 19.03.07
    • 08:58

    Again out of the infirmary without permission? What's the connection between visiting Auschwitz and denial of the Holocaust?

  • 146. 0 0
    To Dino
    • Claudia
    • 19.03.07
    • 08:56

    You can't "educate" them about the Holocaust. As much as you can't "educate" them not to kill their daughters -it's called "family honour"- for talking to a man. How can you teach someone about the Holocaust, when you fail teaching them not to sacrifice their own daughters in the name of some stupid religious law? This country is in another world. You have to live here to understand. It is far, far away from anything else. Any attempt to change mentality and you are accused of violating the rights of the minorities. So we learn to live with that. Big deal. We also learn to live with the Iranian who says he is going to wipe us out. It may or may not happen.

  • 145. 0 0
    Marilyn's lies and the Three Pal Nations.
    • Claudia
    • 19.03.07
    • 08:49

    What a waste of your time might be to be attached to a newspaper in a foreign country every single day of your life! Look, Marilyn, you've got the mind of a Marilyn and the intentions of an Adolf. Learn history and then, write. As far as truth is concerned, you don't know even how to lie in a sophisticated way. Palestinians want to live in Israel as a "Jewish State", funny, isn't it?. To put it simple, they prefer Israel to any other country in the Middle East. Now, they are also the majority of the population -80% or more- in Jordan with a Pal queen there.(Future king: a Palestinian). They will also have a Palestinian state and they want to come back -law of return- to ........Israel, of course. So this beautiful people will be the only one in the whole bloody world to have THREE STATES. What about that, Mary?

  • 144. 0 0
    i see the truth is to powerful for haaretz
    • jon
    • 19.03.07
    • 07:52

    here you censorship gophers at haaretz, go to, www(dot)jewwatch(dot)com. we ALL see through the lies and the real authors of the holocaust were JEWs! you people are the greatest mass murders in the world. my words must be very powerful to get censored so much. but we know you jews are cowards and prefer to have the goy die for you. what a people straight from not a nice place.

  • 143. 0 0
    nakba and friends
    • charro
    • 19.03.07
    • 07:39

    Nakba hapened when you pals came to live in Israel.Stop saying you are palestinians. Palestine is the name of the land of the philistines, you do know who they were?. they do not exist for over two thousand years Samson kiled them. but you adopted such name given by the romans, which by the way you hate them because you hate everybody who is not moslem. One dayy not only western civilization but all oriental (chines, Japanese, Koreans) will get rid of you. Moslems is a cancer who has to be wiped out from the face of the earth. Start looking for your virgins.

  • 142. 0 0
    palestinian #9 you are ignorant as you people are
    • charro
    • 19.03.07
    • 07:34

    It is not a surprise to read the stupidities this pal says. You pals dont have to pay any prize. You do not deserve to live in Israel includin Judea and Samaria. If you dont like it, you have two choices: a) get the hell out of there or b) why dont you confront directly IDF and fight a war . you are a bunch of cry babies asking for mercy from the whole world, but, How come the other arab countries they dont give a damn about you??. You hate each other and by tradition you (arabs) are traitors.

  • 141. 0 0
    @77, redmike, correct number vis 432500.
    • vladimir
    • 19.03.07
    • 07:25

    it was official UN number in 1948.

  • 140. 0 0
    the argument of denial
    • David Lucier
    • 19.03.07
    • 07:12

    The argument goes like this (it's a religious dielectic.) If there was a holocaust, then the Germans and Poles would have had to make reparations and Israel would be in Germany and Poland. Since Germany and Poland made no reparations and the Palestinians built no gas chambers, the holocaust must be an illogical concoction, justifying the takeover of Palestinian land. This type of thinking comes out of the bible; it's called midrash--filling in the spaces. However, I heard it from Achmanadinejad. For those interested in the logic of forgetting, consider the US role in dropping over 16 million one-thousand-pound bombs on Vietnam. If every two bombs killed a single person, then 8 milliion Vietnames were killed. The US role in initiating the Cambodian holocaust is also a case to study for those who claim an interest in the conditions and justifications for mass murder.

  • 139. 0 0
    These are the barbaric Arab attitudes that fuel Kahane's ideas.
    • Fortuna
    • 19.03.07
    • 06:53

    The macabre, fascist idea of transfering Arab populations outside Israel, isn't born out of the blue, but out of these kinds of attitudes of Arab cynicism, ignorance and hatred. No Israeli denies the massacre at Deir Yassin. No Israeli denies the massacre by Baruch Goldstein. The victims are less than 600. If Arabs deny the worst genocide in human history, ten thousand times more murderous, then they should not be surprised at Kahane's views.

  • 138. 0 0
    @64, nephtaly, we arte great peoplple and it
    • vladimir
    • 19.03.07
    • 06:49

    doesn't importent on antisemits. we produce, we create, we make world going, we are the history, world, art and science.

  • 137. 0 0
    The stark ignorance amongst Arab communities.
    • Zuriel
    • 19.03.07
    • 06:40

    Very sad indeed.

  • 136. 0 0
    Bass
    • Connie
    • 19.03.07
    • 05:33

    You conveniently forgot to mention the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and his love for Hitler and his hopes for bringing the death camps to Palestine. We are not fools here....and believe me most of the arabs wished that Hitler had finished the job. Very few were sympathic to the plight of the Jews of Europe. Don't try to pull the wool over our eyes..the truth is the truth.

  • 135. 0 0
    Democrat The Mufti LIVED IN BERLIN
    • GZLives
    • 19.03.07
    • 05:20

    Democrat nice try but no cigar. Philistines are NOT Palestinians no matter how hard you wish it were so. Look it up, do the research its been disproven again and again each time Arafat tried to make this connection. Your description of the Grand Mufti and the Nazi connection is laughable, He was innfamous for his braodcasts from Berlin ... his Jew hating broadcasts. Man you don't know much of the propaganda you're peddling here do you?

  • 134. 0 0
    What percentage of Jews say Israel isn't an occupier?
    • Jim
    • 19.03.07
    • 05:12

    What percentage of Israeli Jews deny that any Palestinians were expelled from their homeland? Or that Israelis have systematically terrorized and murdered Palestinians for 60 years? How many support Netanyahu or Lieberman? How many idolize Baruch Goldstein?

  • 133. 0 0
    why some people denied the holocaust....
    • maria
    • 19.03.07
    • 05:11

    holocaust pictures are not enough evidence?

  • 132. 0 0
    #62 & #63 Truman
    • Bryan
    • 19.03.07
    • 05:04

    I agree that Truman's comments were ambiguous enough to be construed as bigoted. However, I believe he was talking about a specific type of Jew, not all Jews. This was not a speech but notes from his diary. But it speaks to the frustration that he felt towards certain Jews who were putting all types of political pressure on him to give them a state in the Middle East without any regards for the geopolitical considerations that the President of the U.S. must always take into account. At the end of the day, Jews owe Truman as much as Americans owe General Lafayette, because without him you would have no state. Also, Truman was aware of the bigoted attitudes that he had been indoctrinated with and mentioned overcoming this when he desegregated the military.

  • 131. 0 0
    Filistinian The Mufti was alot more of a Nazi
    • GZLives
    • 19.03.07
    • 05:03

    Filistinian it wasn't just visiting Berlin ... While in Baghdad, Syria al-Husseini aided the pro-Nazi revolt of 1941. He then spent the rest of World War II as Hitler's special guest in Berlin, advocating the extermination of Jews in radio broadcasts back to the Middle East and recruiting Balkan Muslims for infamous SS "mountain divisions" that tried to wipe out Jewish communities throughout the region.

  • 130. 0 0
    Arabs are fed on a diet of lies
    • Jon
    • 19.03.07
    • 04:35

    Is anyone surprised by this? I bet most of them think the Israelis caused 911 and the tsunami.

  • 129. 0 0
    to sherlock wanna be
    • bass
    • 19.03.07
    • 04:25

    Don't insult a man like Sherlock Holmes with your ignorance. Arabs saved alot of Jews ,when Hitler ask morocan king for the jews in his country he said "I dont have any jews all I have is morocans" As a Palestinian I do believe that the houlacost did happen but you guys have became best freinds with who ever did it to you and took out on those who saved in the first place. That should be an example to those who are saving you now (americans)!!

  • 128. 0 0
    Not only UN Resolution 194 No. 50
    • Marlene
    • 19.03.07
    • 04:16

    When Israel was formally admitted into the United Nations in 1949 via Resolution 273, that resolution specifically recalled Resolution 194 which Israel recognized and agreed to. However, once it gained its admittance, all recognition ceased.

  • 127. 0 0
    Good Bye Arabs (and Islam)
    • Chris
    • 19.03.07
    • 04:00

    Israel's future is bright. The more Arab nations are pulverized by the US, the less of a threat they'll be to the rest of the world. GO USA!! SO LONG ISLAMISTS !

  • 126. 0 0
    What is on the minds of the Arab world
    • Avrum
    • 19.03.07
    • 03:38

    The following was cut and paste from a conspiracy theory written up on Al-jazeera online. And we worry about what 25% of Israeli Arabs think. This is what they read daily. "An article published earlier on the state-run Syrian daily al-Thawra drew suspicion that Israel may have developed the bird flu virus as a new weapon to avenge Arabs and harm the genes of its Arab neighbors. The Syrian paper cited a report released in 1998 by the Sunday Times alleging that Israel is developing a biological ?ethnic bomb? that would kill Arabs and not Jews."

  • 125. 0 0
    re:Klaus Bloemker
    • Klaus Bloemker
    • 19.03.07
    • 03:36

    "Our moral superiority is proven" Okay, but how come that "the world is sick and tired of Israel" - as Jim Clancy of CNN put it some months ago in an interview with an Israeli official? Sometimes, Israelis seem to be geniuses only in their own minds.

  • 124. 0 0
    #1 Marilyn - You're comparison is inacurate
    • Jon
    • 19.03.07
    • 03:26

    Even if Israel did force out 750,000 Arabs, they were not slaughtered, nor turned into slave laborers. Furthermore, there was a war started by Arabs, in which Palestinians openly supported their Arab bretheren, some by joining the battles. Their supreme leader, Ayatollah Kameinei, was an avid supporter of the Holocaust and the Nazis. There was no way for Israelis to know who was enemy or friend. The Jews in Europe were not at war with the Germans, they did not start a war, nor was there any solid reason to exterminate an entire population from the world. Nobody denies that many Arabs left Israel, but the reasons were far different. And that is not even taking into consideration that many of them left on their own valition, out of fear, or were coerced by the Jordanians, Syrians and Egptians to leave.

  • 123. 0 0
    Thats what happens in a theocracy
    • Jon
    • 19.03.07
    • 03:17

    They can't think for themselves, they only know what they hear on their state-run television and radio programs, and they are programmed to hate and deny. At least 25% of their parents were probably signing up along with Ayatollah Kameini to join the ranks of the SS, while going on pogroms in Jerusalem to kill and destroy any Jewish presence in the Old City, but they probably don't even know that.

  • 122. 0 0
    Proud Pal Defender
    • bostonjew
    • 19.03.07
    • 03:12

    hey proud pal defender - your use of CAPS AND !!!! is impressive. do you think we HEAR typing? this is so typical of your side - you think that louder=persuasive. while you are CAPPING EVERYTHING, WHY DONT YOU USE ALOT OF ADJECTIVES to illuminate your position? it is always super effective.

  • 121. 0 0
    RE: Klaus Bloemker and "moral superiority"
    • hmpierson
    • 19.03.07
    • 03:09

    First time in my 58 years I've heard a German with the nerve to get into a discussion of "moral superiority" of Jews. Many German Jews refused to leave Germany because they could not believe the land of Goethe and Beethoven would follow a degenerate like Hitler. Bloemker, sounds like you are in denial as much as the Isareli Arabs.

  • 120. 0 0
    Let the Israeli Arabs live in the forthcoming Palestinian state
    • hmpierson
    • 19.03.07
    • 02:58

    After 60 years, they are still a fifth column. Without a doubt, they have legitimate grievances about second class treatment within Israel. But rather than focus on that, they prefer to see Israel as the agressor in the Lebanese war, and they align themselves with Iran when it comes to the Holocaust. It saddens me, but these people do not belong in Israel. My son spent a year as a volunteer in Israel, much of it working to help Israeli Arabs. What a waste of his time. Let them live under PA rule, and wish they were back in Israel.

  • 119. 0 0
    Israelis anf the Nakba
    • Filistinian
    • 19.03.07
    • 02:56

    It's insane to deny the Nakba (as well as denying the Holocaust). About 800 000 palestinians left, fled, or were forced to leave what is Israel today. Some people who left did so after being persuaded by the arab armies. But most were terrified to be butchered by some of the irregular jewish and fled. Others were forced to leave, such as after the battle in Ramleh and Lydd, when hundred died after a long walk to Arab controlled land (about 50 000 on the road). And about Ben Gurion, he was the master planner. "The Commander of the Palmach, Yigal Allon asked him, ?What shall we do with the Arabs?? Ben-Gurion answered (or according to another version, gestured with his hands), ?expel them?. This was immediately communicated to the Army Headquarters and the expulsion implemented". The Israeli tactics were clear, commit a few massacres and create panic among palestinians. It's succeeded. Why deny it?

  • 118. 0 0
    maybe it didnt happen
    • bostonjew
    • 19.03.07
    • 02:54

    maybe the holocaust didnt happen. so what? I dare any arab to say the nakba didnt happen while in public in an arab state. do you have the guts for that or are you only brave when it is easy?

  • 117. 0 0
    Ahmed Tibi is nearly right
    • Raffaele Ladu
    • 19.03.07
    • 02:48

    I disagree with MK Tibi's claiming that Israel was the aggressor in the last war; but he is 100% right when he says that the Holocaust has been the worst crime against humanity. By the way, while Israeli Arabs are wrong in condemning the Israeli bombings only, I see no reason for Israeli Jews' fearing to set foot in Arab cities. Take care

  • 116. 0 0
    Holocaust and the Palestinians!
    • Filistinian
    • 19.03.07
    • 02:37

    Is it right to use any arguement to oppress the Palestinians? Just because the mufti of Jerusalem visited Berlin and the Nazis in the 30s doesn't make the Palestinians Nazis. Most people in the occupied territories does not deny the holocaust, although, it's not their highest priority right now. Ending occupation is.

  • 115. 0 0
  • 114. 0 0
    As a Jew, and a child of hollocost survivors
    • TOMY
    • 19.03.07
    • 02:35

    I can not understand, why should be we upset if our enemy deny hollocost? It does not bother me a bitt.If stupid people think stupidly, why should I be upset. I am realy having hard time understanding my fellow Jews.And nobody should be prosecuted for it. Ignore stupidity.

  • 113. 0 0
    Swiss
    • Nephtaly
    • 19.03.07
    • 02:29

    You dont know what we are dealing with here. These people could witness the gassing of jews through a peek hole and they would still deny the actual facts of the holocaust, pretty much like the Germans did. Their society has programmed their brains to be anti-jewish, and nothing else. That is the sad reality here. We dont need to educate the students or the youth, we need to educate the parents. now how do we do this is beyond me. to some extent, i believe it to be impossible :(.

  • 112. 0 0
    IT'S ONLY 25% ISRARABS...WHATS THE POINT?
    • GIRISH
    • 19.03.07
    • 02:25

    ITS ONLY 25%. SO WHY MAKE A BIG ISSUE?

  • 111. 0 0
    not a majority
    • objective view
    • 19.03.07
    • 02:23

    Less than one third of the arab population denies the holocaust, less than half supported hezbollah's kidnapping actions last summer, and 44% saw hezbollah's actions as war crimes. This just goes to show that the arab population is anything but monolithic, and it is wrong to generalize. it is not "the arabs" who deny the holocaust, but rather some (a minority), it is also not "the arabs" who supported hezbollah, but a slight minority. There are many arabs who are proud citizens of israel and/or have no problem with their jewish neighbors (and vice versa for many jewish israelis.) There are arabs who run educational programs affiliated with holocaust museums and arabs who protected jews during the holocaust (like the guy who was just awarded yad vashem's righteous gentile award.) I'm very glad so many people on this board feel like respectfully acknowledging the existence of those voices and not doing a disservice to their efforts by denying their existence (note the sarcasm.

  • 110. 0 0
    Proud Pal Defender
    • mozie
    • 19.03.07
    • 02:22

    It's true that no human deserves to be treated in certain ways as you say. But this protection also should apply to the vicims of violence committed by some Arabs, many of these victims other Arabs, other victims Jewish civilians not only in Israel but in the whole Arab world and elsewhere and not only since Israel but also prior to the state of Israel existing and continuing in every decade from the 1920s on. Hamas, a group which has focused on targeting unarmed civilians for murder, and has refused to cede even Israel's staying inside the Green Line and who just last week expressed warm feelings for Al Qaeda, an elected part of the Palestinian government who is setting their policy. So while it is true that the Jews should be eager to avoid victimizing anyone else, it is also true that the Palestinians could make this task easier for them by subtracting the need of Jews to defend themselves. But are taking forever to do so.

  • 109. 0 0
    re: Oddvark
    • democrat
    • 19.03.07
    • 02:17

    "Well, first, the Jews were there first, and second, the Pals supported Hitler in WWII." The Jews were not there first, the Phillustines (read: Palestinians) and Canaanites were there long before the Jews, and it was only through Hebrew perpetrated ethnic cleansing (eg, what happened in Jericho) that made the land Jewish. Second, lots of countries supported Hitler, and the Palestinians who allegedly supported Hitler had no way of knowing about the terrible Holocaust occurring there; nobody really knew the horrors until Germany's borders were finally breached by the Soviets. Further, by using the Holocaust as an excuse for Israel crimes and barbarism, you only make more people think to themselves: "Hey, maybe Hitler was on to something." You want the whole world to start hating Jews again as it once did? Allow Israel to continue on its foolish, evil, reckless path.

  • 108. 0 0
    Arab schools in Israel
    • KT
    • 19.03.07
    • 02:13

    I have raised this issue before - and will continue to do so. Arabic is considered an official language in Israel, so Arab Israeli children go to Arab Israeli schools, because their families prefer it. In those schools, children learn in Arabic, learn English as a second language and learn Hebrew only as a third language. Though many of them go on to higher education in major Hebfrew institutions, such as Hebrew University, they continue to function mainly in Arabic and often only poorly in Hebrew. Consequently, they prefer to get their news and comment from Arabic TV and newspapers. A very good Muslim Arab Israeli friend will forever believe that Jews control everything in the United States and no matter how hard I try to convince him of the white Anglo-Saxon Protestant predominance in our society, he will never believe it. I have no idea how to deal with this problem, but I do think it needs to be confronted and dealt with.

  • 107. 0 0
    ARABS
    • JOJO
    • 19.03.07
    • 02:04

    The Arabs have developed the most vicious lies about Jews. They deny everything that is canonically Jewish History and Judaism. We r long gone; we r Kazaries of central Asian origin;we killed our prophets; Jerusalem was not Jews';etc. U mention anything about Jews and they have some falluting theory , the work of madmen irrecognizable by any sane person. Until the Arabs withdraw this culture and a period of 10-20 yrs of reorientation takes place in the Arab streets, these results will recur. In fact, the Israeli left does not meet with my support for these reasons. It is irresponsible to assume that the current state of Arab consciousness can secure peace for Israel; it can only lead to defeat. A precondition for any peace talk must be the destruction of this hateful lying culture.

  • 106. 0 0
    re: Klaus Bloemker
    • Efox
    • 19.03.07
    • 02:00

    You killed millions of us after we gave you Quantum Theory and Synthesized Ammonium Nitrate Fertilizer. You’re Welcome! We have allowed millions of Arabs to live next door to us after they gave us suicide bombing, missiles and three wars where were outnumbered six to one. Our moral superiority is proven.

  • 105. 0 0
    Come on everybody just relax take it easy
    • Danny
    • 19.03.07
    • 01:59

    You know what our problem is. We take words too seriously. People don't mean what they and don't say what they mean from every group. So lets all be friends. Relax. Take it easy. Stop buying weapons and starting wars. Lets all just stay cool and relaxed. Okay. Good.

  • 104. 0 0
    bernie #47
    • KT
    • 19.03.07
    • 01:51

    What a stupid remark! Yes, 6 million Jews were murdered in the holocause. But several million others - Gypsies, homosexuals, mentally challenged persons, and many others - were murdered in the same way. We need to remember that! If it should happen again, you might be included.

  • 103. 0 0
    Definition of Nakba
    • Efox
    • 19.03.07
    • 01:48

    The Arabs raised six armies to try and slaughter every last Jewish man, woman and Child between Jordan and the Sea. They Failed. For them this is a Nakba. For us it is Survival.

  • 102. 0 0
    #5, "The Arabs left Israel by their own choice"
    • Fritz
    • 19.03.07
    • 01:28

    After some massacres! Allthough there is one funny thing in that sad story, that tells something about their mentality: The Israels killed everybody in some villages, more or less, and as if that would not be enough, the Arabs told the other Arabs, that the Israelis had also raped the grandmothers before and this detail was to much for them. Anyway, there were massacres......the massacres did really happen.

  • 101. 0 0
    BEACE LOVING ARABS
    • GABE1
    • 19.03.07
    • 01:28

    Ahiya Raved Published: 03.18.07, 20:42 / Israel News Almost 50 percent of Israeli Arabs justify Hizbullah's kidnapping of soldiers Ehud Goldwasser and Eldad Regev, and 90 percent regard the IDF bombings in Lebanon during the last war as war crimes.

  • 100. 0 0
    This shows that all arabs are ignorant and support terrorism
    • DAZ
    • 19.03.07
    • 01:25

    its in their culture and how they are raised as children. The funny part is they are living as guest in the jewish state and have these feelings about israel. if they dont like israel so much try baghdad or ramallah.

  • 99. 0 0
    Marcel
    • Connie
    • 19.03.07
    • 01:24

    Because someone has not visited Yad Vashem or Auschwitz they cannot say that the Holocaust happened? What kind of reasoning is that. I have never visited Canada but I know it snows there in the winter...how do I know...because I read.

  • 98. 0 0
    palestinian
    • Connie
    • 19.03.07
    • 01:21

    We know the Holocaust happened because we have eye witness accounts...not only from the victims but from the U.S. soldiers who liberated the camps. But our best knowledge is from the Nazi's who documented and video taped everything they did. They were such good record keepers that they helped hang the noose around their necks. And further more Jews have been in British Mandated Palestine for years before Israel became a state,my father in law lived there from 1924. But of course you have heard of Jesus of Nazereth haven't you? In case you have forgotten he was a Jew and lived in the region thousands of years ago. Your argument in not valid and is based on arab propaganda. We belong in Israel and we will stay there long after you are gone.

  • 97. 0 0
    Welcome to the Arab dream world
    • Danite
    • 19.03.07
    • 00:55

    Otherwise known as NIGHTMARE!! The degree to which their minds are shut down is astounding. Happy trails to all our arab friends!!

  • 96. 0 0
    Jewish/Israeli Moral Superiority
    • Klaus Bloemker
    • 19.03.07
    • 00:51

    The American rabbi Arthur Hertzberg in his book 'Jews - the essence and character of a people' quotes Ben-Gurion as saying "I believe in the moral superiority of the Jewish people". He quotes Ben-Gurion in the affirmative! As a German I can only shake my head in disbelief. We have had this 'superiority'

  • 95. 0 0
    Arab Poll
    • Rav Harley
    • 19.03.07
    • 00:50

    What's surprising about this? You ask a fool a question, you should expect a foolish answer. The real question should be, why would you ask the fools the question in the first place? Better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you're a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.

  • 94. 0 0
    what is "Holocaust denial" ?
    • hmmmmmm
    • 19.03.07
    • 00:50

    is it saying the Nazis killed no Jews ? is it saying that the Nazis may perhaps have only killed 5,999,999 Jews ? is it dependent on whether Jews killed by Nazis died from gas, bullets, beatings, starvation or disease ? or is it, as I believe, the denial of Zionist involvement with the Nazis, the deliberate obstruction of rescue for so many and the active and wilful betrayal of some, such as the Hungarian Jews ?

  • 93. 0 0
    the polls show 89% of israeli arabs think the attacks
    • hussein
    • 19.03.07
    • 00:43

    on lebanon were war crimes. fine.so how much proof do the people of israel need to understand the danger from betrayers in our midst? there is one answer and that is to cede all the arab villages to the pals.umm al fahm would be the first on the list.

  • 92. 0 0
    #43 Jews Have No Humanity
    • Yonatan Netser
    • 19.03.07
    • 00:32

    Interesting in the main article that 62% of Israeli Arabs are fearful of having their communites transferred to the next new Arab country. Anyway, you wrote: "Read the Talmud, it doesn`t even recognize the very humanity of non-Jews.You are totally exposed." You're right. My country invents new vaccines for use only on Jews. My country's universities are not full of Arab students. My country's hospitals refuse to treat Arabs. It is written in the Talmud:"O, Jews, do not allow Arab lawyers to petition the Supreme Court of Israel." Ha'aretz writes lies abd tries to tell you otherwise, but don't believe them. This free press is another trick of the Jews with no humanity. I feel totally exposed now. Thank you for revealing yourself, I mean myself. Masa ilKhaer!Shalom!

  • 91. 0 0
    Regarding Marilyn's "blind hatred" No. 71
    • Marlene
    • 19.03.07
    • 00:28

    There is absolutely nothing shameful in what she's said, moreover, it happens to be a fact. Israeli people sit in denial of all the horrendous things taking place in their own backyard and find all kinds of justifications and excuses for the way all Palestinians are treated. They are dehumanized the very same way that Jews and Roma Gypsies were dehumanized/demonized. If you want to know what is shameful and an embarrassment, it is Israel's brutality and crimes against humanity that it does in the name of all Jews that most of you on this forum suppport, and that shamefully, most Jews support also. Perhaps that's attributable to "blind support."

  • 90. 0 0
    #1 Say It Ain't So, Marilyn
    • Yonatan Netser
    • 19.03.07
    • 00:24

    You wrote: "Young Arabs in Israel can be forgiven for not believing in the holocaust as many zionists have claimed compensation to date for over 1 million people they claim survived it. Talk about holocaust denial." I understand your hate, I've seen it up close and personal. I still don't understand why you choose to post to a Hebrew newspaper. Why not to Al Manar, or other such bastions of free Arab journalism? Why write just to express your hate instead of constructive dialogue? As for Al Naqba, have you done a poll? Most Israelis I know agree that following the Arab rejection of Partition, and the armed invasion of my country, a tragedy happened to the Arabs living in Greater Syria ,Egypt and Jordan. We can forgive Haj Amin Al Husseini's pact with Hitler, and not claim compensation for his wrongs. I could excuse "young Arabs" for their ignorance,just as you suggest. But I cannot forgive an educated, older person like yourself, who poisons the young. That is the true Naqba. Shalom!

  • 89. 0 0
    Like I worry if these 25% really care either way
    • Avrum
    • 19.03.07
    • 00:08

    Actually I am more disappointed that the Israeli government is not willing to speak up about the Armenian holocaust. I know it is important for Israel to have good diplomatic relations with Turkey but is this relationship built on Israel keeping it's head in the sand or denying it ever happened. Sorry but as a Jew I have a hard time with Israel on this Armenian issue.

  • 88. 0 0
    # 69 Nephtaly
    • Swiss (Dino)
    • 19.03.07
    • 00:00

    Nephtaly, actually I wasn't even thinking about a punishment, but rather an educational measure. Why not take those young Arab-Israelis in their classes on a trip to the concentration camps in Europe....?? Did you know that the Germans started a project a few years ago, where they sent young German Neo-Nazis on a holiday trip to Israel...?? And believe it or not, I think they had a certain success with this extraordinary measure...

  • 87. 0 0
    PEOPLE all over the world have Moslem "no go areas"
    • PETER SM
    • 18.03.07
    • 23:51

    It is all the fault of the host countries of course. Cesspools of drugs,violence and hatred.

  • 86. 0 0
    Stop quoting scriptures and look at reality
    • Micha
    • 18.03.07
    • 23:49

    The reality is there are many Jew haters in the world The reality is there are many moslem homicide bombers who are brainwashed. Now, go figure that one out. And quit your bullshit from down under and from england and from the US. All of you are sick. It's troubling that so many KKK supporters here are so vocal. You people are nutty.

  • 85. 0 0
    To Tom - it's just as easy to say Jews invented the holocaust to
    • Mike
    • 18.03.07
    • 23:47

    buy sympathy from the UN for the creation of Israel. Fact of the matter is that the Holocaust was a real event (an in excusable one). But the Nakba is no lie either. Don't pick and choose the parts of history that suit you. I noticed that Israelis have a tendency to do that when it comes to UN Resolutions. Now you do that with history too?

  • 84. 0 0
    #20 Joe from Ramallah. Nazis and Arabs
    • Sherlock Holmes
    • 18.03.07
    • 23:46

    Germany cultivated Arab allies. German envoy to Baghdad Dr. Fritz Grobba, worked to produce an Arabic daily paper Al-Alim al-Arabi and an Arabic translation of Mein Kampf. There was an Arab Hitler Jugend or Al-Futuwwa, and Arab participants sent to the Nuremberg youth rallies. Baghdad had its own branch of the Nazi Party.( Heather Pringle, The Master Plan, HarperCollins, London, 2006) The Baath Party that rules Syria and ruled Iraq until the fall of Saddam Hussein began life as Arab supporters of Hitler.

  • 83. 0 0
    # 1 Marilyn - real 'nakba' is Arab immigration...
    • Paul Henzen
    • 18.03.07
    • 23:40

    You still seem to be your anti-Zionist self... Don't you agree that the so-called 'nakba' of 1948 is nothing compared to the negative effects of the Arab mass immigration into our Western countries, including your own Australia, with its nice little Arab beach fights? Especially Europe had/has to pay the price for the mismanagement and corruption of the failed Arab states, leaving scores of integration-resistant unemployed masses in our deprived suburbs. Perhaps we should commemorate the date of the arrival of the first Arab immigrant as our 'Euro-Nakba'. Even in Europe, immigrant pupils try to make it impossible to teach the Shoah in schools, 'as it is all lies'...

  • 82. 0 0
    The Paradox of Holocaust consequences
    • Mozie
    • 18.03.07
    • 23:27

    The Jews of the world come away with two lessons from the Holocaust. One, that they can't rely on anyone else but themselves to defend themselves and their own human rights and existence. Two, the moral value of behaving compassionately and treating others in the opposite way they were treated. The real world has shown the difficulty of practicing both these wisdoms at the same time. But Israel, as the Jewish state, should always embrace the perhaps Herculean task of pursuing self-defense and humanism simultaneously.

  • 81. 0 0
    The Question/REAL ISSUE Here Is--Is It A VALID Excuse?
    • Proud Pal Defender
    • 18.03.07
    • 23:25

    Look-- The question/REAL ISSUE here...is not if it happened (it's documented that it happened)...rather the question/issue is...IS IT A VALID EXCUSE/REASON for Israel's behavior towards/treatment of the Palestinians, etc.? The Answer Is-- NO! Why-- Because Jews, BECAUSE OF the Holocaust, etc. should have learned...that NO HUMAN DESERVES TO BE TREATED...IN CERTAIN WAYS. Instead/Tragically-- Formerly persecuted people/Holocaust survivors THEMSELVES...have become Lead/PREMIER PERSECUTORS/OPPRESSORS of other people (among nations of its kind/nations you expect to behave better/differently)! THERE IS no greater tragedy than this! THERE IS no greater lesson that has gone UNLEARNED than this! Further-- Victims can not be allowed...TO VICTIMIZE OTHERS! What kind of world would we have...if we were all allowed to do this? Even Sadder-- The people they are victimizing...aren't even the ones who committed the crime. So No-- There is NO EXCUSE!

  • 80. 0 0
    Until 9/11...
    • Mrs.
    • 18.03.07
    • 23:18

    Until 9/11 the Holocaust was the best documented crime in history. And in 50 years some (pro-)Jihadists will claim 9/11 never happened, despite all evidence - so what?

  • 79. 0 0
    re # 44 KA sorry!!! if we just dont't drop dead
    • Alberto Cohen
    • 18.03.07
    • 23:15

    I see !!! According to you humanitarian philosopy , all Isralis should accept following Convenat of present Palestinian Goverment: "Article 13: "There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. " Let's analyze !! What choice do Israel have ? Should we all drop dead ? Should we all convert into Islam ? Should we all pack ? Regarding Marylin, would you please clarify to her, who did start the so called "Al Nakba"?

  • 78. 0 0
    To convince them, you need to...
    • TheBilu
    • 18.03.07
    • 23:13

    To convince these people you need to commission pro-Palestinian Israeli or Jewish or Leftwing activists to go and talk to them. These activists will do it because they know that this 25percent figure gives Israeli Arabs a bad name and hurts the Palestinian cause.

  • 77. 0 0
    #1 - every Israeli I know agrees 700,000 arabs fled
    • redmike
    • 18.03.07
    • 23:04

    how can you spout such nonsense ? Every Israeli I know would tell you if asked that around 700,000 Arabs fled the area in 1948. We are not ignorant and no history ! The 'fact' is that they weren't pushed out but that the fled because Arab countries told them to leave whilst they wiped out the Jews. This didn't happen and no country Arab but Jordan has really made any attempt to absorb the refugees after telling them to leave. Instead they have kept them in temporary camps and used them as political pawns. No one knows how many the 700,000 are today but if the Arab countries (lots of land and money) offered to help solve the problem by absorbing a percentage of Arabs then Israel would do the same. To expect Israel to take in 4 million supposed refugees and house and feed them and provide them with social security is obviously never going to happen. A balance objective view would be best ... Mike

  • 76. 0 0
    AK....A LITTE NOTICE
    • Nephtaly
    • 18.03.07
    • 22:55

    At last a light in the dark tunnel. I can only hope that more Israeli Arabs can rise up and speak for what Israeli truley stands for. Kol Hakavod. May there be more like you within our midst..

  • 75. 0 0
    Who's indoctrinating them?
    • KUTW
    • 18.03.07
    • 22:49

    Attacks on Lebanon as a crime. But it was OK for Hizbollah to attack Israel. So aren?t they fifth column? Who is indoctrinating those who deny Holocaust?

  • 74. 0 0
    #49
    • AK
    • 18.03.07
    • 22:39

    I am also an Israeli Arab. I am a professional, I have a good job and yes I live better than most of of the Palestinians under the PA. I am happy here and I wouldn't want to live under an oppressive Arab regime. You can say what you want but you don't represent me, my wife or my family.

  • 73. 0 0
    In the end
    • David
    • 18.03.07
    • 22:35

    The holocaust is indeed true. though the numbers of the victims can be discussed. The holocaust was one of the worst acts of crimes we've seen in modern history, but let us not forget all the other genocides committed not so long ago in our world. One should have in mind that the holocaust shouldn't be used as a political tool to achieve goals. That would be to insult all the victims when you sell their stories and suffering for some cheap political achievements. One thing that has disappointed me with the Eretz Israel is the way of handling its people's history. How peoples suffering and life's have been used in order to occupy another country. This is the result of using a tragedy in political and imperialistic purposes. In the end, the crimes committed against minorities in europe during the WW2 and other genocides world wide will all be denied or forgotten as true crimes and instead used as tools tho gain political opinion.

  • 72. 0 0
    THE JEWISH PEOPLE TODAY
    • Nephtaly
    • 18.03.07
    • 22:27

    The Jewish people are the product of a persecuted nation who said NO MORE and chose to live rather then to be slaughtered. The Jewish people today are a nation who decided to rise up from the ashes of the Holocaust and from the submission of Muslim control to form their own nation, in their own land deprived from them for 2000. They are a nation molding its own destiny and constantly fighting for its existence. The Jewish people are a victimized people, expelled from the world's nations and or forced to flee for their lives with nothing but what they wore on their backs. They are a terrorized people by Muslim fanatics who still cant get over the fact that the Jewish people no longer crawl at the their feet. From bus bombings, to disco tech bombings, from the constant wars forced upon Israel by its neighbors, you want to lecture me on what the Jewish People are today? Try innovated, intelligent, strong, wise, tolerant, and life loving people. We are not better, but we are different.

  • 71. 0 0
  • 70. 0 0
    #20 Joe and his Blatant Lies
    • Alex
    • 18.03.07
    • 22:20

    i'd like you to back up ur statement that "90% of casualties in wars started by Israel were women and children". You can't, because you're lying, an altogether common tool of Palestinian politics. Israel was complicit in Sabra and Shattila, but hardly responsible. If you want to know what angered the Maronite Christians in Lebanon who actually carried out those massacres, you might consider the destabilizing effect the Palestinians had in Lebanon, attempting to turn it into a lauching pad for terrorism against Israel (Jordan kicked them out exactly for this reason) and its complicity in the ethnic cleansing, and civil war in Lebanon. While every good Palestinian can speak of Sabra and Shattila, none ever discuss (or are likely even aware of) the numerous massacres and ethnic cleansing of Maronite Christians in Lebanon by the Palestinian arabs.

  • 69. 0 0
    Swiss
    • Nephtaly
    • 18.03.07
    • 22:14

    If we were to go after individuals who publicly deny the Holocaust, over 25 percent of the Arab Israeli community in Israel be targed, all according to this article. What do you think world opinion would be if Israel did target them. That is 250,000 plus people we are talking about, just in Israel. The Arab world, and the hypocrites in Europe would use Israel as a punching bag if their were to inforce strong punishment for Holocaust Denial. This is the sad reality we live in. Some things are still denied to the Jew.

  • 68. 0 0
    Where is Rami?
    • Gene
    • 18.03.07
    • 22:09

    Where is his response? The poll confirms that Arabs are primitive people who cannot appreciate what they have in the Jewish state: freedom of speech, relative properity, free market economy and a lot of opportunities, law and order, etc. They sides with the "victims": Hezballah and Hamas. Therefore there is only one solution to this madness: vote for Lieberman and make Arabs happy.

  • 67. 0 0
    Palestinian, post no. 9, I will not try to convince you about the
    • Nadav
    • 18.03.07
    • 22:04

    nature and history of the Jewish Holocaust and the very long history of anti-Semitism that preceded it throughout Europe. There is enough objective information out there from which to study. I would state, however, that Israel is NOT a product of the Jewish Holocaust. Israel is a result of the rise of Jewish naationalism that began in the second part of the 19th century. The first Zionist congress was held in 1897, calling for the establishment of a Jewish national home in Eretz Israel (Land of Israel). The universally accepted principle of the right of peoples to national self-determination was internationally perceived as applicable to the Jewish people in its historic homeland of Eretz Israel, hence the British Balfour Declaration of 1917 that called for the establishment of a Jewish home for the Jewish People in Eretz Israel. And in 1937 (and in 1947) the UN offered the Jewish people a state in Eretz Israel, before the war and before the Holocaust.

  • 66. 0 0
  • 65. 0 0
    Boris..most Russian immigrants eat pork
    • Israeli
    • 18.03.07
    • 21:57

    SO, you are probly the real pig, not Khalid, who I understand doesn't eat pork.

  • 64. 0 0
    THE JEWISH PEOPLE TODAY
    • Nephtaly
    • 18.03.07
    • 21:57

    The Jewish people are the product of a persecuted nation who said NO MORE and chose to live rather then to be slaughtered. The Jewish people today are a nation who decided to rise up from the ashes of the Holocaust and from the submisson of Muslim control to form their own nation, in their own land deprived from them for 2000. They are a nation molding its own destiny and constantly fighting for its existances. The Jewish people are a victimized people, expelled from the worlds nations and or forced to flee for their lives with nothing but what they wore on their backs. They are a terrorized people by Muslim fanatics who still cant get over the fact that the Jewish people no longer crawl at the their feet. From bus bombings, to disco tech bombings, from the constant wars forced upon Israel by its neighbors, you want to lecture me on what the Jewish People are today? Try innovated, intillegent, strong, wise, tolerant, and life loving people. Everything the Arab world is not.

  • 63. 0 0
    To Bryan
    • Ziggy
    • 18.03.07
    • 21:57

    Why must you quote an anti-Semitic statement by Truman to make your point? Truman was a racist. He used words like "wop" and "nigger," and called NYC "kike town." While such behavior was the normal for his day, I see no reason to now cite it with approval.

  • 62. 0 0
    Truman and America turn of the century
    • GZLives
    • 18.03.07
    • 21:53

    Truman's idea of Jews was certainly pretty imited and also we shouldn't forget his Missouri background which included his time as a member of the KKK. Surely that caused Truman to have a particular view of many that is distorted due to the reality of an upbringing in a Southern American State in the turn of the century. And by that I mean all that went with the time - anti semitism, racism, bigorty anti Catholicism

  • 61. 0 0
    Isn' t it bizarre....??
    • Swiss (Dino)
    • 18.03.07
    • 21:33

    In certain European countries you can get in big trouble for (publicly) denying the Holocaust. In Israel it doesn't seem to be a (big) problem....

  • 60. 0 0
    KA, Palestinian - AKA Khalid Amayreh
    • Boris
    • 18.03.07
    • 21:31

    ... is making a living writing articles denying the Holocaust. http://www.mediamonitors.net/khalid3.html The picture on the page is his. What an ugly pig!!!

  • 59. 0 0
    KA, Palestinian - AKA Khalid Amayreh
    • Boris
    • 18.03.07
    • 21:31

    ... is making a living writing articles denying the Holocaust. http://www.mediamonitors.net/khalid3.html The picture on the page is his. What an ugly pig!!!

  • 58. 0 0
    CWRIGHT.Did a Jew write "from time immemoral"?Sure?
    • PETER SM
    • 18.03.07
    • 21:30

    Is it an official Jewish publication?Are you sure? Nice to see you proving your posts are based on solid ignorance or just lies.

  • 57. 0 0
    To Marilyn an the other Fools
    • Shalom
    • 18.03.07
    • 21:18

    To Marilyn And you other fools Let's first establish Some basic rules. To an apple You may compare Other apples But not a pear. If the Holocaust Will be your guide Than equate it fairly With genocide. The Naqba, and this Is no contradiction Is at the very worst - A forcible eviction. So you will agree You can't compare The two items In this affair. To those murdered souls Lest you ever forget I suggest you offer Apologies and sincere regret.

  • 56. 0 0
    #48 Double Click
    • Boycott
    • 18.03.07
    • 21:17

    AP world wide is no better or worse than Reuters and the rest. However, AP's Jerusalem office is very biased, in the pocket of the Israeli government.

  • 55. 0 0
    Oriental Jews - Warschawski
    • Klaus Bloemker
    • 18.03.07
    • 21:15

    It's true Michael Warschawski is very anti-Zionist. But that does not invalidate what he wrote. He says that even after he went with his group to Yad Vashem for proof - they still wouldn't believe him because of their attitude towards the Ashkenazi. Actually, what Warschwski writes has relevance to understand Iran's denial. The meaning of the 'final solution' shifted from a historical, moral one to a present day political one.

  • 54. 0 0
    25% and Friends like to be provocative.
    • Alan-SA
    • 18.03.07
    • 21:14

    They get a kick out of the reaction from Jews who should know better than to reply to the Garbage they sprout. One minute they say they are treated "worse than the Holocaust " The next moment they say the Holocaust never happened . Like 9/11. Most Pals deny Arabs carried it out . Then the Gitmo Sheik & OBL claims responsibility for their "blessed deed"

  • 53. 0 0
    WHY SHOULD THEY TOE ZIONIST LINE OF CURRENT AND PAST HISTORY?
    • JACKAL
    • 18.03.07
    • 21:08

    First of all, read the statement of the 'professor' who conducted the survey. the survey's accuracy is suspecious. Secondly, this was their land. You expelled their people and made them refugees, converting them into minority. Now you want them to accept YOUR VERSION of the present and past history. why should they accept? The surveys like these are aimed at telling your people and the rest of the world that these Arabs are the fifth column inside the zionist entity which you call israel.

  • 52. 0 0
    Joe Ramallah ...
    • GZLives
    • 18.03.07
    • 21:08

    " I can understand Europeans or Jews should learn this stuff but why Arabs or Chinese for that matter?" Well Joe .. I suppose it may conflict with teaching your kids we're monkeys and pigs and I can see how you may not want any lesson to get in the way of that wonderful crap you fill your children's heads with. As long as people need to teach their kids this garbage, they may as well understand that it leads to de humanization which makes the gas chambers/crematoria a much easier next step. Since the Arabs seem to be the largest purveyors of this filth regarding Jews, they need to hear about the Holocaust more then anyone else ...

  • 51. 0 0
    Unsettling results- especially about Lebanon and Hezbollah
    • Chick Corea
    • 18.03.07
    • 21:07

    A rocket war by Hezbollah terrorists which affected Israeli-Arabs as much and in some cases more than it did Jews and yet 50% support Hezbollah. That is a very telling statistic. One, terrorism against Israel can be done by Shiite Lebanese and it is supported by at least half of the non-Shiite Israeli Arab population. Second, being victims of a war against Israel is not the critical element but rather the support for the war against Israel despite their being victims of it. Third, the killing of IDF and kidnapping of IDF is seen as justified. It is obvious if the kidnapping by Hezbollah is supported by 50% of Israli Arabs can you imagine the support for Hamas/Fatah kidnappings? It would be so high that probably a minority of Israeli Arabs would help in that kidnapping. I wonder what the Arabs think is happening during Holocaust Rememberance Day when everything stops in Israel? This is not a neutral population but a hostile, enemy population.

  • 50. 0 0
    UN Res. 194 Implies Nakba
    • Bryan
    • 18.03.07
    • 20:57

    Why did the U.N. pass resolution 194 in 1948 if there was no Nakba? Were Rabin and Begin lying when they discussed the Nakba in their memoirs, not to mention Zionist historian Benny Morris? The Nakba deniers are the type of Jews that Harry Truman must have had in mind in July 1947 when he wrote in his memoirs: "They care not how many Estonians, Latvians, Finns, Poles, Yugoslavs or Greeks get murdered or mistreated as Displaced Persons as long as the Jews get special treatment. Yet when they have power, physical, financial or political neither Hitler nor Stalin has anything on them for cruelty or mistreatment to the underdog."

  • 49. 0 0
    Marilyn: I am an Israeli Arab and am proud of you
    • Ahmed
    • 18.03.07
    • 20:51

    Don't flinch in the face of shipyard dogs of fascism. Speak up in defense of truth, justice and humanity.

  • 48. 0 0
    Associated Press BIAS
    • Double Click
    • 18.03.07
    • 20:46

    The Associated Press is a biased organization, and would receive flunking grades at any respected Journalism school. They say, "Hezbollah pelted northern Israel with nearly 4,000 rockets." But there is no mention of the American 'cluster bombs' that Israel dumped on Beirut. And then they claim that Goldwasser's and Regev's capture was the incident that, "sparked the 34-day conflict." But there was no mention of the June 6th Gaza Beach artillery barrage that killed 7 Palestinians and instigated the capture of the Israeli reservists. In my opinion, honest reporting can lead to peace. But dishonest reporting often leads to war.

  • 47. 0 0
    why should it matter?
    • bernie
    • 18.03.07
    • 20:45

    why should/would anyone but a jew care about the holocaust?

  • 46. 0 0
    Next time make sure all Hezb rockets land in Arab towns
    • McQueen
    • 18.03.07
    • 20:43

    Then we can all agree about how justified they are.

  • 45. 0 0
    don't push holocaust on arabs face
    • GIRISH
    • 18.03.07
    • 20:43

    let them not believe it. it happened and the world knows it did.

  • 44. 0 0
    Alberto Cohen's stupid soundbites
    • KA
    • 18.03.07
    • 20:43

    Instead of criticizing the lady, you should pay attention to the shame of your people in the streets of the West Bank. You are a shame upon humanity, not the people who criticize you.

  • 43. 0 0
    Ok, Do Jews respect other people's lives?
    • American living here
    • 18.03.07
    • 20:41

    Read the Talmud, it doesn't even recognize the very humanity of non-Jews. You are totally exposed.

  • 42. 0 0
    Nephtaly, Marilyn is telling the truth
    • Palestinian
    • 18.03.07
    • 20:40

    Don't evoke such "Jewish people" and other silly things. The Jewish people today are occupiers, murderers, liars and land thieves. They are no longer victims, they are victimizers. Crimes against humanity don't become less when committed by Jews. Jews would have to atone for their crimes aginst my people for a million years to come.

  • 41. 0 0
    #31 - Klaus Bloemker - You quote an Israel-hater
    • dromit
    • 18.03.07
    • 20:38

    Her Bloemker, you forget to mention that Warschawski is an ardent anti-zionist. He would would happily see Israel destroyed in favour of a Jewless state. His views re Sephardic Jews should be 'struck for the roll'.

  • 40. 0 0
    Palestinians
    • Mohammed
    • 18.03.07
    • 20:38

    As a palestinian I feel I must let the world know that when the Israelis controlled the towns here in the West Bank most of us Palestinians were able to get a good night sleep now we have a bunch of thugs leading the Palestinian people, people are dying every day through palestinian violence on our streets and the world does nothing to stop it. The Palestinians are creating their own holocaust

  • 39. 0 0
    Israeli Arabs
    • R
    • 18.03.07
    • 20:36

    Israel needs to do a better job of bridging the gap. Start with concepts like Equality, Respect, and Trust. Israeli arabs need to get their heads straight on this too. It takes two hands to make a Handshake.

  • 38. 0 0
    Sure we believe in the Nakba: Yom Haatzmaut
    • Ilan
    • 18.03.07
    • 20:27

    We believe in the Nakba. That was when the Arabs all tried to murder the Jews and throw them in the sea, but instead they got very disappointed and we Jews won. We have this big celebration and it is called Independence Day. We believe that the Nakba for them is much better than a holocaust for us. Deal with it. As for the other little items. Is there some attempt to make the Jewish Israelis reluctance to go into Arab villages (and would we come out safely?) equivalent to the Arab denial of something that is well documented fact? Sounds pretty dumb to me.

  • 37. 0 0
    Dovy not Jewish
    • Allon
    • 18.03.07
    • 20:18

    You're not Jewish, you're a pal or a leftist pretending to be a Jew to support your liberal agenda of murdering all the Jews. If you were Jewish you'd have Jewish parents and grandparents (OR NOT) to remind you of what happened in the holocaust. Maybe look at some of the images from the war, visit Auschwitz... the again why should you? There are no depths beyond which a leftist will not sink in order to insult, slander and murder Jews. S H

  • 36. 0 0
    Arabs and the Holocaust
    • Sherlock Holmes
    • 18.03.07
    • 20:18

    I detect that the Arabs' faulty memory when it comes to the Holocaust is their way of avoiding their own criminal involvement. Prof. Bernard Lewis of Princeton points out the close ties between various Arab groups and the Nazis. Heather Pringle ( The Master Plan, London HarperCollins 2006) quotes from German reports that the Arabs speak Hitler's name as if it were a holy word!( page 119) Britain was so stretched and the Arabs in Palestine so belligerent that Britain was forced to close the doors on Jews escaping from the Holocaust -- breaking her own commitment in the Balfour Declaration and subsequent treaties designating Palestine as the Jewish homeland.

  • 35. 0 0
    Expel the dark forces
    • Brod
    • 18.03.07
    • 20:14

    Israel should expel the Trojan Horse dark forces in their midst. For them to say that the Holocaust never happened is an insult to the sufferings and pain that the Jewish people went through not only in WWII but since the Roman antisemites brutalized their country in 70 AD and since the Arab Islamist-Jihadists marauded their country in the 7th century.

  • 34. 0 0
    To Palestinian.
    • Neutered Observer
    • 18.03.07
    • 20:13

    It will be interesting to see if anybody dares reply to your interesting suggestion that it should have been the Germans, not the Palestinians who should have been made to pay with part of their country after the Holocaust. Another even more sensible solution would have been to set up Israel somewhere in the USA, which is vast, and has plenty of empty desert just waiting to be cultivated...... and as the Americans love the Jews everybody would have been happy. The Palestinians could have made a fortune running hotels full of Israeli tourists visiting the holy land.... Balfour really put the cat among the pigeons when he made his "Declaration" all those years ago. Best Wishes.

  • 33. 0 0
    Joe, which Jews apart from those in your head did you poll?
    • Allon
    • 18.03.07
    • 20:10

    Where are these figures coming from? No Jews deny Deir Yassin, what they do deny is the Palestinian/Lefto-Fascist slant on what happened there. The truth is no-one really knows what happened. The NAZI's on the other hand documented their crimes meticulously By the way, has anyone ever thought of blaming the actual perpetrators of Sabra and Shatila for the massacre instead of the Israeli army which was not in the camp at the time? I could from the same logic blame the british for the holocaust and forget the NAZI's had anything t do with it. Why should the IDF have protected Arabs from Arabs? Would the world think any better of us Jews because of it?

  • 32. 0 0
    reply to # 9 Why should we believe...
    • Ben Azai
    • 18.03.07
    • 20:05

    The Holocaust is probably the best documented atrocity in all history. The Nazis themselves kept methodical records and filmed their own grotesque behaviour. Russian, British and other Allied soldiers entered concentration camps and filmed what they saw. Before the war there were three million Jews in Poland. After the war there were less than fifty thousand. Did the rest retire to Miami? The British had been commited to helping rebuild the Jewish homeland in Israel, but they closed the doors to Palestine to European Jews because of pressure from the Arabs. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem stood side by side with Hitler in Berlin.

  • 31. 0 0
    Oriental Jews - Holocaust Denial
    • Klaus Bloemker
    • 18.03.07
    • 20:05

    The left-wing Israeli Michael Warschawski (he grew up orthodox in France and moved to Israel in 1967)writes that he taught courses of mainly sefardic Jews and says these people didn't believe the holocaust happened. Their argument was: "The Ashkenazi want to make us believe that (the holocaust) because they are the victims not us. We don't buy that." As the above article points out, denial is mainly motivated by the suspicion the holocaust is used for some unjustified political, financial or other end. ("The Ashkenazis want money and control. Not that I want to excuse Hitler but I understand that you Germans didn't like them", a Jew of Iraq/Moroccan decent once told me in Jerusalem.)

  • 30. 0 0
    but you trust the french....
    • ola
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:59

    only the "zionsts" say it happened? read some history books. the ignorance is scarry!!!! how exactly the pl are paying the price? living side by side coauld have been ok if you wern't murdereous people.

  • 29. 0 0
    Historical perspectives and self interest
    • Joseph
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:59

    People often see the same event from different self-centered perspectives. Americans will tell you they caused the Allies to win World WarII; few Americans will know that more than twenty million Russians died in the war against Nazism or that Germany's decline began at Stalingrad. Elderly SS widows interviewed recently for a BBC programme defended the 'heroic idealism' of the SS and its vision of an Aryan master race. Americans are surprised that British history books see the 'American Revolution' as a footnote in British imperial history. For Arabs, many of whom were Nazi supporters, the Holocaust is best forgotten and pushed to the back of their collective mind. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem spent much of the war in Berlin and the Baath Party began life as the Arab Nazi Party.

  • 28. 0 0
    So What?
    • Dovy
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:58

    I am a Jew and I don't believe that 6 million people were killed or that there were gas chambers. A total factual impossibility between 1942 and 1944, and everyone knows it. So what? In what world are we living under? The Zionist Inquisition of their Thought Police?!

  • 27. 0 0
    how are these things even related
    • ola
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:56

    not going into an arab town is for ones own protection. how is this at all related to not believeing 6 million humans were murdered? this is an outragouse poll. that showes again the horrifeic an unacceptable arab population state of mind as israeli citizens. go to yad vashem and get some history lessons instead of pure hatred ones. it will do us all some good.

  • 26. 0 0
    El Nakba and Holocaust
    • From the Moon
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:54

    The antagonism between Palestinians and Jews is huge. Anything that can wake up compassion, mercy, pity is pushed away from those who suffered some injustice from opposite side. Both happened. Some day you will face that as hard facts.

  • 25. 0 0
    please Marilyn
    • AK
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:50

    you are an embarrassment to educated Israeli Arabs. I don't think I want your postings to represent me as they only fuel hate and irrational ideas.

  • 24. 0 0
    re #9 'Well, How can be sure that it happened?'
    • Colin Wright
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:41

    Just to take your question at face value, I'm quite certain that the Holocaust did happen -- and I most assuredly am not a Zionist. The evidence for the Holocaust is roughly on a par with the evidence for the existence of Australia. No, I didn't see the Holocaust with my own eyes -- but then, I haven't been to Australia either. I'm nevertheless convinced of the existence of both.

  • 23. 0 0
    Hopeless #9
    • Oddvark
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:38

    Why should the Pals suffer? Well, first, the Jews were there first, and second, the Pals supported Hitler in WWII. Look it up, but not in one of your history books. Look it up in a history book that actually contains facts.

  • 22. 0 0
    SPoon: Arab Jews were asked and terrorized to leave
    • KA
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:35

    by ZIonism which fire-bombed their synagogues and distributed anti-Semitic leaflets...in their neighborhoods. Read "Naim Giladi's book about the Jews of IRaq. Doesn't Israel do the same thing in France today, burning down Jewish community centes...and blame on Muslim immigrants...all in order to prompt Jews to go to Israel to live on land that belongs to another People. You see...Anti-Semitism is the bloodline of Zionism...without anti-Semitism, there is no ZIonism.

  • 21. 0 0
    Response to 'Palestinian', holocaust denier
    • Shai
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:34

    The veracity of the factuality of the Holocaust does not rest upon a 'Zionist' version of events, but is part of well established international history, recorded scrupulously by the Nazis themselves, and is considered to be absolutely true by the entire globe - that is, the entire globe apart from a tiny minority in the fringes of the political spectrum, who have their own agendas, and by many in the Muslim world, including yourself, who seem to view life through a very strange filter, and believe in versions of history considered ludicrous and disproven by everyone else. Of course, there's no way that you'll ever accept this, because of the 'Great Zionist Conspiracy'. Stop hating already and work for peace and the future, you'll find that there's more of an address here for that than you realize or believe.

  • 20. 0 0
    100% Jews deny Deir Yassin happened
    • Joe
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:29

    or Israel was responsible for Sabra and Shattila. Or Israel was responisble for any of the dozen wars ("operations") it started or ever accepted responsiblity for the fact 90% were kids, women and civilians killed in such wars. The "holocaust" is European history and I never understood why it's imperative people here should learn EUROPEAN HISTORY AND THEIR MISTREATMENT OF JEWS. I can understand Europeans or Jews should learn this stuff but why Arabs or Chinese for that matter? It's not like there is a shortage of catastrophies or tragedies in the history of Africa or the Middle East people should be focused on but why European history in the 1930's should be highlighted as something unique when I can point to Iraq today, Lebanon yesterday and the tragedy in Palestine--where are the museums for the victims of American and Israeli agression? 600 thousand + dead in Iraq, 3 million fled, a country in ruins and yet all we hear is what happened to Jews in Europe in WW2?

  • 19. 0 0
    Marilyn
    • Allon
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:26

    Did your poll which generated a conclusive result of close to 100% of Jews include any individuals outside of your head? Do you know any Jews, sorry, do you know anyone not called Marilyn?

  • 18. 0 0
    also it did happen
    • Mary
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:26

    The way the Israelis are treating the Pals, stealing their land and lie about it, gives the Pals too many reasons not to beleive anything that the Israelis say.

  • 17. 0 0
    re # 1 your hate worst than your ignorance !!!
    • Alberto Cohen
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:26

    Where the hell have u obtained your figures ? Would you stop writing crazy statments without providing any source to base it !!! The HONEST procedure would be : I MARYLYN BELIVE THAT ..... , but unfortunately, I do not have any historical ,sociological, religous knowledge to confirm my personall opinions !!!

  • 16. 0 0
    Why Palis SHOULD pay for the Holocaust
    • GZLives
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:25

    "Besides, why should Palestinains pay the price of these incidents that took place many years ago. Germany, not Palestine, should have paid the price for the "holocaust." Why? Perhaps because your people tries their best to participate in it. Amin Al-Husseini your Grand Mufti in March 1933 sent a telegram to Berlin, in which he sent greetings to the Nazi regime and said he looked forward to spreading their ideology in the Middle East, especially in Palestine. Lets face it Palestinian, your leaders like this Nazi Husseini were no better then the SS and would have gladly murdered the hundreds of thousands of Jews living in Brit Mandated Palestine. As a supporter of the losing side, something the Palestinians seem to do so well, you obviously lost any credibility with this empty argument. Palestinians DID participate in the Holocaust with support by your leaders and more. Go read the history because Husseini didn't just passively support the Nazis but actively helped them.

  • 15. 0 0
    Arabs don't mind being murdered by other Arabs
    • Allon
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:24

    As long as Jews die as well, as long as they can criticise Israel. These people don't truly respect their own lives, they use their own lives as canon-fodder against Jews. Why should their lives be respected by anyone else?

  • 14. 0 0
    SHAME ON YOU MARILYN
    • Nephtaly
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:24

    Lady, you humiliate humanity and you put us all to shame. You distort Palestinians political greivences for your own racist agenda against Israel and the Jewish people. Had I been a Palestinian, I would not want your sympathy and understanding on the tragice issue that has fallen on the Palestinians People. Truley Sad :(

  • 13. 0 0
    How many jews believe that Holocaust happened?
    • Marcel
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:20

    and how many jews have visited yad vachem in ...Israel? How many jews have never visited Auschwitz?

  • 12. 0 0
    #9
    • Spoon
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:17

    How many "Palestinians" and pro-"Palestinians" have died for the course of your opinion and how many years of arabs in prison are served until now? What more are you willing to accept? And when will it be your turn? VIVA ISRAEL!

  • 11. 0 0
    Colin Wright is WRONG as usual
    • GZLives
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:17

    Hell Colin, you know that's a misleading smear ... Jews won't admit Palestinians exist ? Well then who do they think is murdering and blowing up the pizza joints, falafel stands, discos then ? Who's strapping on bombs and stabbing people if not Palestinians ? What Jews say is is true and that is despite the attempt of the Palestinians and their useful idiots to make believe there was some long long history of a Palestinian people - designed to try and mirror a real Jewish historical narrative between Jews and that land, the plain truth is ALL Arabs living in that region for at least 36 months were deemed by the UN "official refugees" and so this long history that you'd like to believe was for many only three years. Palestinians as a recognized people and not a rag tag bunch of arabs who migrated to Palestine mostly to work on the large Jewish owned farms, were invented by Arafat in the 1960's - before that they were referred to as "Arabs" plain and simple.

  • 10. 0 0
    nothing we didn't know already
    • garrick
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:11

    but thank you anyway!

  • 9. 0 0
    Well, How can be sure that it happened?
    • Palestinian
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:09

    The Zionists say it happened, but we don't trust the Zionists, who lie about every thing from the Nakba of 1948 to the intifada of 2000. Besides, why should Palestinains pay the price of these incidents that took place many years ago. Germany, not Palestine, should have paid the price for the "holocaust."

  • 8. 0 0
    #1 | @M.: How many Jews got thrown out of several arab countries?
    • Spoon
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:07

    Please, use the advantage of Google and friends: How many Palestinians were thrwon out of which arab countires - and how many tenthousands of Jews suffered the same? Come again, name all nations!

  • 7. 0 0
    25%
    • wh
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:03

    where not allowd to express ther opinion

  • 6. 0 0
    Marlyn I'm sure your family has a picture of Hitler at home...
    • Tom
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:03

    Based on your lies and false history, I can only conclude that you were raised to hate Jews at any cost. The story of Nakba was created by the Arab world to give them legitimacy to hate Jews. Zionist never claim that there were no Arabs in Israel. The Nakba was caried out by the Arab world that promised the Arabs in Israel that they would kill and drive the Jews to the see. Well that didn't happen and today the Pals that did comply and coroborate with the Arab countries that attacked Israel call themselves "ocupied refugees" even though Jordan, Egypt, PLO, Fata, Hamas all controlled them.

  • 5. 0 0
    Marilyn and her usual lies
    • Steven
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:03

    The Arabs left Israel by their own choice. Israel has over a million Arabs today who are either those who chose or the children of those who chose to stay in Israel. Ben Gurion beg the Arabs to stay and build Israel with the Jews. The Syrians begged the Arabs to leave so when they pushed the Jews into the sea, there would be no Arabs in the way and then the Arabs could come back as the victors. Why should we buy into Marilyn lies and distortions. The Holocaust however is not a distortion and is not a lie. Marilyn has no use for the truth, she seems to have only use for hating jews.

  • 4. 0 0
    re #1 'Jews don't believe in the Nakba'
    • Colin Wright
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:00

    Hell, a lot of Jews won't admit that the Palestinians exist -- much less that they were driven off their land. See for example 'From Time Immemorial.' That kind of takes denial to a new height. It would be as if the Holocaust deniers decided that there never had been any Jews in Europe in the first place.

  • 3. 0 0
    Over 25% of the Arabs should loose all State benefits
    • Steven
    • 18.03.07
    • 19:00

    Look, I am not a spokesperson for the so-called Arab plight. I know that nobody likes to loose wars however. I also understand Arabs rather have a non Jewish Palestine than a Jewish Israel. I am not even trying to belittle their pain. That being said. How can anybody live in Israel where there are so many survivors still alive and claim there was no Holocaust. This only proves, peace between Arab and Jews in nothing but a pipe dream. These Arabs that might hate Israel for many reasons, have no right to claim the holocaust never happened. I feel it in Israel should be a crime that should be punishable by public hanging. These 25% + of Arabs are just haters and they are the reason why Arabs will never be true Israelis. The nefesh yehudi in the anthem has nothing do do about it.

  • 2. 0 0
    I'm beginning to believe that a nakba will happen to these people
    • Aaron
    • 18.03.07
    • 18:52

    They are definitely the world leaders at choosing the wrong side of conflicts and the wrong side of history.

  • 1. 0 0
    So, close to 100% Jews don't believe in the Nakba
    • Marilyn
    • 18.03.07
    • 18:33

    Young Arabs in Israel can be forgiven for not believing in the holocaust as many zionists have claimed compensation to date for over 1 million people they claim survived it. Talk about holocaust denial. However, might I suggest that close to 100% of today's Israeli's do not believe that the Israeli's pushed over 750,000 civilians off of their land in 1947-49 and still believe the land was empty.