PM on Iran: Israel will never give up its right to defend itself

You just cannot admit that you guys lovewar.the israeli state only loves war if it is against weaker nations, why do you continually instigate anger from arab neighbours. because you continue to hurt the palestinians on every front.. pretty soon this will lead to a boiling point unlike the intifadas.. the intifada will look like diplomacy if israel doesnt get off its high horse soon.. you arent better then any other people.. you have just as many and way more short comings then the arabs and the majority of your readers already know it, as well as the majority of the world... however america and israel together seem to be too stubborn to admit defeat in the eyes of the world therefore they will continue to support eachother as long as there is no one to oppose them.. as soon as iran gets the nuke i guarantee real negotiations will take place and you dont want that you want war because in war it is much more likely that you will have the ability to steal more land.. post clear.

Get rid of this Olmert comedian.

Post 3 was from the fool. Pretty clear to me. same guy, same message. Jane Troter's post #65 is right on. Jane if your waiting for click-fools responce forget it, You hit too close to home.

According to your fellow-hasbarists the Netherlands will be an Islamic country soon anyway, so no need to go there.

Anyone else want to see Iran vs. Israel in a football match? Can't they settle things that way? All this talk of nukes, and killing, and terrorism, and blah blah blah... its getting old. Ya'll are lettin' a handful of self-righteous leadership pr*cks run you down. Us Americanos get it - we've got the same problem here. Its not about freedom, its not about security - its about money, and power, and it sucks. "This is the way the world ends. This is the way the world ends. This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper." - T.S. Eliot

Keep up the good work. You make it more and more obvious how miss guided you people really are. Maral eventually the world will get tired of your people's methods and actions and then what? You have no future if you continue this road. Israel is not going anywhere and your time is running out. Fix your internal problems, post on your own sites. Maybe oneday we will all laugh of these times but today you sound insane and afraid of the big bad Israel. Israel is no different then any other country that wants peace and prosperity for it's people. It will never bow down to anyone or anything that talks like you. You affect nobody other then reassuring them that they have no other choice other then just keep smacking you across the face like a disobedient child. Now go in the corner Maral and think about what you said, and no dinner for you go to bed right now. Sound familiar? Haha

Actually it is the Ilsamic fundamentalists and Arab leaders who object to the existence of Israel based on the fact that it is on holy Arab lands. The Jewish claim is historical and culturlal rather than religious. You know that most Israelis are not religious either.

What bullies? Who has ever threatned Iran? The only thing the Iranian mullahs need to fear is a rebellion from within, and this is sure to come. Perhaps this is their way of avoiding it - pursuading their population that they are protecting them (as Nasrallah did). They are in fact bringing gried upon their own people (as did Nasrallah)

Come on old chap. I want you to do a little experiment . I want you to find me an Arab news web site ( in English ) that allows people to constantly post anti Islamic / Anti Arab coments all day every day , without being barred. I`m certain you will not find one. This can be used as a paralel to the core difference between the the Moslems and the Jews , the West V Islam .... Freedom. I await your responce.

Israel is ready to defend itself ? Not with present idiots in the coalition of the losers.Olmert showed how his government "took care of all the Northerners in Lebanon affair.Now think how they will take care of 2 -or 3 simultanious attacs or barrages from North South and the SYrian side, that probably intends to widen it to JOrdan south and create full line of confrontation.That leaves a way for Israelis to the sea ---maybe that is what Olmert meant that he is ready to relocate Israelis to the sea? Its right to defend itself ? really Olmert ?Just see the Gaza and realise how impotent an Israeli governments are consecutevely starting from Begin to this day.We say obliterate Gaza ---there is nothing good is coming from there.

You resolve your disputes in a dialogue, not by a threat of pre-emption. Hazbollah is Seria's trump card like Nuke and USA are ISalei trump card. On top, Iran will be a nuclear power, get it through your thick head Olmert.

Iran under the lunatic Ahmadeijed must never be allowed to have nuclear power. International sanction is the best choice if Iran refuse to stop enrichment.

You guys are wasting your time bashing him. We don't like him either: we don't want him.

If the intifada started, as the myth goes, because Sharon visited Temple Mount (which is the holiest spot on earth for the Jews) then why did it start in Egypt at the same time: on the same day, as it began in Israel? It was planned well in advance. (Itsik if you are here you can confirm my clear memories)

You cannot deal with Assad the way you deal with Hamas or Hezbollah. He is a different animal. True, he has a lot of weaknesses, the economy, internal problems, and gradual isolationism,etc. Still, you cannot approach him with chess-like moves. He is more like a golf player that cheats when you are not looking, and ends up with a better score even though you are positive that you played the better game. He has been playing from positions of weakness for so long that he has gotten very good at it. Olmert is right not to deal with him now, Olmert is in a weakened position now and Olmert unlike Abbas, does not do well in such a position. Olmert has to get control of himself and especially of Peretz who is all over the place like a mouse being chased by a cat. Then and only then should he confront Abbas directly.

I dont know where you got it from but it's not something I'm familiar with. I'm sure someone more learned than I am can tell us. I thought I would send you something in return since you sent us something. Just as a gift for Thursday.

Is still high . You can't hold Israel accountable for the kind of news spined to satisfy your hopes . AS for IDF deterrent or performance on the Lebanon-hezbollah ground , you should than recall the psychological deterrent value that Ahmediabuser-iran had after the war by publicly stating that he has no issues with Israel. Same deterrent value by Assad terror syria statements for peace also after war . Nobody ever heard these kind of statements before the war . And they are nassarallah bosses. Of course Israel isn't duped by that " fear factor " statements , since these mafia guys are the type of keeps on coming back as the past proves . As for religious or secular , dictators are dictators , some absolut and some despot. The last phrase in my first post to you is inexistant in the arab-muslim world. Happy ramadan.

You may be right. With Bush as Chief of Staff who led the world to the unknown and his failure in Afghanistan & Iraq everything is possible.Hope not.

Who is contesting Israel's right to defend itself? What is being contested is Israel's arrogated right to prohibit other peoples and nations in the area from defending themselves against Israel.

I've found the arrival of a Fake Clickfool interesting. Over the time I've been posting on Talkback I suppose I've acquired a reputation for my hostility to Israel. Lots of Zionists have expressed a desire to silence me, to have me banned from contributing. Now a man has emerged who's trying to do it in a more subtle way, by masquerading as me, taking my known views and distorting them subtly with racist, extremist and antisemitic overtones. His purpose is clear - to have ALL my posts discredited. For me this is simply one more facet of Zionism. Zionism pays no regard to the truth or to ethics or to morality or to decency or to the law. It is interested only in furthering the naked aims of the State of Israel. It wants to smother the truth, any way it can. It is animal-like in its survival instincts, losing sight of all that is human in the process. The poster who masquerades as me is a Zionist liar.

Whatever.

Message # 3 was from the Zionist, out to cause disruption by posting under my name. Sloppy work by the Talkback Censore, who either has no means of spotting the fakes or can't be bothered to deal with them.

Iran signed a treaty forbidding research leading to nukes. Thats why! I don't know where you live but if it's an arab country you would be subject to nuclear balckmail by these crazies. What bullies do they need protection from? No one cared much about them UNTIL they started enriching uranium.Israel ONLY considers them a threat if they have nukes as do ALL arab countries. If there is a war with Iran ALL the surrounding ARAB countries will take part in it AGAINST Iran as they recognise the threat. Omert met with the Saudis'. Do you think they were discussing the Pal problem? NO! They talked about Iran.

Hi Bob! My maths is excellent. Post #3 was Fake Clickfool. I have asked the Talkback Censor to remove it. Whether he actually does anything is anyone's guess.

iran will neve give up its right to defend itself,

Arabs agressor's violence is no excuse to have their grievances reliefed when diplomacy is for settling out issues, have it the 1st or the 2sd intifada . Beside arabs lost respect of Al Asqa mosque when years earlier throwed rocks from the Al Asqa mosque at people praying in front of the walling wall or western wall, Al Asqa mosque or the dome of the rock should be open to visitors , the pope's speech is right on and you saw arabs violent reaction against this old holy man's churchs . So it's clearly muslims who desecrate house of prayers Your rethoric about the rest, hezbollah , fence , IDF ect...is reflective of arabs mind spining facts , the west isn't duped . . IF i am part of 7% thinking he is doing a good job , well than he should and still drives the car . As for your thinking , you may find 30.000 friends at rabin whiners square for they are now droping off their postures if you read other israel news also such as the reservists realizing their mistakes. You'll be Arabs agressor's violence is no excuse to have their grievances reliefed when diplomacy is for settling out issues, have it the 1st or the 2sd intifada . Beside arabs lost respect of Al Asqa mosque when years earlier throwed rocks from the Al Asqa mosque at people praying in front of the walling wall or western wall, Al Asqa mosque or the dome of the rock should be open to visitors , the pope's speech is right on and you saw arabs violent reaction against this old holy man's churchs . So it's clearly muslims who desecrate house of prayers Your rethoric about the rest, hezbollah , fence , IDF ect...is reflective of arabs mind spining facts , the west isn't duped . . IF i am part of 7% thinking he is doing a good job , well than he should and still drives the car . As for your thinking , you may find 30.000 friends at rabin whiners square for they are now droping off their postures if you read other israel news also such as the reservists realizing their mistakes. You'll be amazed to learn the reaction of Israelis at the news of A soldier who takes bullets to save his fellows life . G'd bless..

if the stupid bush understood that he shouldn't attack iran, i'am wondering what is the degree of intelligence of olmert.

Iran’s president has said on more than one occasion that he wants to wipe out the State of Israel. It has been said in public and it has been written. There is nothing suspicious here, it is crystal clear. Had the world, especially Britain, taken threats more seriously in 1939, the course of history would have changed.

Upon a question of possible a military option in this case the stereo type answer was "?.We never gave up and we will never give up our right to defend ourselves in every situation,??." Are these the guidelines of Israel? nuclears policy? - Who needed this so called policy interview, PM Olmert and his cabinet or the State of Israel?

What Olmert really said is this: "I will never give up … to stay in office!"

PM Olmert in his ?daily copyrighter type announcements? apparently tries single handed to fill in ?vacuum? by presenting what he considers all over governmental / international problems. He jumps ??Olmert said Israel must work with its allies to prevent Iran from developing nuclear arms,...? declaring at the same time ??We are making extraordinary efforts to deal with the Iranian threat. This is a threat that can't be ignored?," and he declares ??."I have direct contact with the U.S. president on this issue, I guarantee you that the U.S. is committed to this issue?." simulteneously he gives ?good notes? to the government of UK and Germany. ??.prevent Iran from developing nuclear arms, welcoming involvement ?? -

NOTHING IN THE HISTORY OF THIS ARTIFICIAL ENTITY LEADS ONE TO THINK PEACE, NOTHING, ONLY BLOODSHEDS, WARS, OCCUPATION, DOMINATION, AND THE LIKE. BUT WILL PAY, AS ALL CRIMINALS

I agree it unlikely the US will go to war with Iran, at least not alone. It would be a terrible day when Iran has nukes but that day is likely years away. Everyone should understand Israels need to protect themselves from this eventual threat. Lets all hope Iran comes to their senses.

BUT LISTEN, IF YOU KNOW HOW, YOU WILL NEVER BE GIVEN A CRACK TO BREATHE TRHOUGH.

The USA cannot and will not resort to military force against Iran. Already the war in Iraq is on the skids, and there are not enough troops to conduct Iraq operations without severely straining the American military establishment. It is unlikely that things in Iraq will change in the next few years. The last thing a new American administration will do is go to war in Iran.

Omerts re-election would be garanteed? Omert couldn't get re=elected if Moses appeared and kissed him on the cheek. He's an embarrassment and a disgrace. He led Israel into an un-necessary war that has torn the moral fabric of the Jewish State. The IDF's miserable performance on the ground has virtually eliminated any psychological deterrent value they had prior to the war. Now the "fear factor" is gone. If they didn't "lose" as some senior officers said then they were at least stopped. The IDF is no longer viewed as a professional ground army " Religious dictators" are hardly religious.

"Israel will not give up its right to defend itself." Complete garbage.....total, cynical playing to the Peanut Gallery Who's asking you to, Olmert? Just don't feel free to attack folk you merely suspect of being hostile to you.

The Intifada didn't START as a result of rock throwing. The rock throwing was a response to Sharon desacrating the Al Asqa mosque which was on purpose to fire up the Pals for Sharons election bid. Israels generals say Israel lost. They say this because Israel failed to reach any of their stated objectives. The primary one being to destroy Hezbollah. Thats why Hez was celebrateing. The people of Lebanon have EVERY right to demonstrate on THEIR side of the fence waving whatever color flags they wish. Throwing stones on the other hand is not right and the Leb army should put a stop to it. They provoke the IDF with words also as they have lost respect for their fighting capability as a result of the IDF's poor showing during the war. And "well said Omert"? You must be part of the 7% that thinks he's doing a good job. He got Israel into this mess and now he's digging the hole deeper.

But alot of the people here base the existense of Israel on this given "right". Maybe you could answer my post and the points in there instead of posting more to me from the Qur'an. Your reply doesn't address the issue. If you're not religious, then my post wasn't directed to you. If you are, kindly reply to what is in the Torah and we'll take it from there.

Whether they have "history" or not isn't the issue. They OWNED PROPERTY 0n that land. Houses, farms and orchards. Can you not see what it right and what is wrong? Are you so blinded by your nationalistic interrests that you are willing to usurp an INDIVIDUALS right to the land they have ownership of? And if you want to talk about history this land has been lived on for a much longer period of time by groups other than Jews in a jewish state.

with Absolut religious dictators? Reagan was lucky to find a man of vision in gorbatchev do you find something that gives you hopes in Ahmediabuser? Did you hear his statements at the UN general assembly ? Did you see the kind of friends he hangs out with.? Olmert , IDF is a professional who perfectly masterize his job , he just need from you a strong political crystal clear back up , that's all , olmert , be the man , work out some political maneuvers but give IDF the green light in any whatsoever case , beside you know that IDF like exercise . If you do so your reelection is garanteed .

I don't always agree with your posts but this time I do. Israel and Syria are currently virtually at peace so Omert really doesn't have to give anything away. Assayd however, is under pressure to get back the Golan and I suspect if talks don't start the Syrians will sieze the oportunity to initiate war when Israel returns to Lebanon forcing Israel to fight on two fronts. Peace with Syria is SO easy and virtually painless. How many times must Assayd stretch forth his olive branch laden hand?

it's stange but it's exactly what is said in the protcole of zion " all the land are for the jews and no one has the right to live

Omert won't talk to the Syrians because they harbor Pal terrorists. Well Omert, thats ONE thing you can discuss in face to face talks. Admit it , you won't talk because YOU don't want peace because peace means giving up the Golan which you said you would NEVER do. You are happy with things the way they are as you are virtually at peace anyway.

olmert is still there, i thought he left

If you are so spiritual and believe in religion then you will give full credit to this quotation from the Qoran: God Gives the Holy Land to Israel [5:21] "O my people, enter the holy land that GOD has decreed for you, and do not rebel, lest you become losers." [5:22] They said, "O Moses, there are powerful people in it, and we will not enter it, unless they get out of it. If they get out, we are entering." [5:23] Two men who were reverent and blessed by GOD said, "Just enter the gate. If you just enter it, you will surely prevail. You must trust in GOD, if you are believers."

I do love your name. It cheers me every time I read it that you understand your position so well.

Need you go on? Sure, I need you to go on, on to one of the dozens of Islamic countries that have already been purged of infidels that is and leave this hundred mile wide strip of land be.

I have seen your post recited word for word many times on many different parts of the Internet, often in Turkish or Arabic. What I have never seen is any rational explanation for your interpretation, particularly as Israel has in the past, only come in to being through force of arms and as far as I can tell, is predicted to do so again, though force of arms is not assumed to be the decisive factor in determining the outcome at any time. We are not chosen for our numbers after all.

Olmert says Syria supports terrorists and therefore can't be a partner to peace?!!? Israel has negotiated with Germany, Poland and the Vatican, Israel has negotiated with Yasser Arafat and the PLO, with Baader Meinhof and Anwar Sadaat and King Hussein and the Israeli Underground Terrorists of the early eighties. Israel has negotiated with Lebanon and the lawyers representing the murderer of Yitzchak Rabin but now Israel can't negotiate with Syria!?! If Olmert's child had been kidnapped he would negotiate with the Devil himself so what is he so precious about??? I can't stand to look at him anymore!!!!!!!#$%^&*()_

Your griefs . Or are you siding with Dr optician terror assad-syria statements. It would be interesting to see assad reaction to you , if you protest olmetr sayings directly to assad. Or are you fearing something from him and founding Haaretz freedom of press and talbacks desirable ,enjoyable for giving to you a taste of freedom of speech thru your posts. Happy ramadan.

Care to cite any International Law to back that up? Or anything in the UN Charter that would give credence to that rather bold claim of yours? Has it ever occurred to you that the reason why all the diplomats (bar the USA, of course) were decrying Israel's actions in Lebanon was that it was NOT entitled to go to war over a border skirmish? Might makes right is just so out of date - has been since the UN was formed.

Quote" The war that erupted July 12 after Hezbollah carried out a cross-border raid, killing three soldiers and capturing two others, ended without a clear victor" But Hezbollah says he is victorious , eventhough a UN-brokered cease-fire has brought hundreds of international forces into the southern part of Lebanon that borders Israel. However recent demonstrations, in which dozens of Lebanese residents - waving yellow Hezbollah flags - threw stones at soldiers patrolling the border. And than to say that under the minimal excuse As long as the protesters are unarmed, they are meaningless. Is omiting the obvious , wich is An haaretz report claiming kind of a tako and a Hezbollah claiming vitory are in contrast to the protesters provoking IDF ,since hezbollah is testing again IDF, nassarallah is not satisfied with his claims of victory , Consequently to pretend tako or rocks are meningless is asking for future trouble by pretendig both Cause that's how trouble starts Moreover implying Unifil and lebanese army are careless about cease fire or siding with hezbollah since allowing protestors to do so by approaching the fence regardless of IDF reaction to protestors , Does anyone forget how intifada started , it is not by shooting and kidnapping but by throwing rocks. , Subsequently friends go back to the quote on top of this post.to realize where it leads to

it is a core of the foundation to nation of Israel. Who ever said read torah, is not reading the Torah. Only be a total removal there will ever be peace, and not only the people, but the buildings and posts they are using in worship. Read your Torah!

I totally agree with Shlomo! There is not one family in Israel who is ready to lose one of their sons in a "small skirmish". This impotent Olmert should go as they will, hopefully, put him away for his unlawful wheeling and dealing anyway.

Tractate Ksubos, folio 111, specifies that the Creator swore the Jews not to occupy the Holy Land by force, even if it appears that they have the force to do so; and not rebel against the Nations. And the Creator warned that if His oath be desecrated, Jewish flesh would be "open property", like the animals in the forest. These concepts have been cited in Maimonides' "Igeres Teimon", "Be'er HaGola", "Ahavas Yehonosson", and in "Toras Moshe" of the Chasam Sofer. You claim God-given right. Here's your response, by God. Basically, for clarity: according to the Torah, you have no business here, especially in the manner you're going about it. Does that answer your inane post?

One of the profits of occupying Arab lands is that Israelis don't have to tolerate their extremists in their own country, they are made a burden for the Arabs. Another is that it makes stealing Arab water very easy. Another is that there is hardly any law enforcement (for Israelis that is) there, so eg, extremely polluting industries are rather built on occupied territory, than in Israel. Need I go on?

Olmert is just a symptom of the failure of the zionist experiment.

terrorist organisations of the Middle East. It refers to it as its "defense force"... It is much a defense force as fox news is a news channel... Totally not.

Israel may be strong on town planning, but the problem for the neighbours is that the Israeli planners move the line round the edge every time the lights are out.

Why bother to make peace when we can still win the war ????? Most people in Israel have forgotten that they are still at war with Syria, and that it is for this reason that she views israel's enemies with sympathy..... This war will go on till Israel return Golan, which has lost all strategic significance and nearly got given back ages ago. The recent military disaster in the North should inspire reflection on this question.

read the history, all islamic occupation of the aria is a relativly new fenomenon. Arabs have no history, roots or rights to be in the aria.

How credible is a peace overture by a sovereign state that gives shelter to known and recognised terrorist entities. If Assad was genuine in his proclamations about peace he would first drive out all these militant groups and maybe just keep their political offices as a show of support for them. Secondly, your inference that Israel stole the territories that it won in a war that was initiated by her enemies is rediculous.. As with the Sinai that was returned to Egypt, Israel has alays stated that it is willing to reliquish these territories if peace and a normality of relations is the result. Last of all, the profits you say that are realised by these conflicts make no sense at all. History has proven that war and conflict bring only losses, both in blood and treasure. Peace that would allow the free flow of trade and ideas would surely be a far more profitable state of existence for all concerned. Your grasp of history and world affairs is sadly lacking.

What "profit" exactly is there from holding Arab lands? It always makes me laugh how the Arabs keep thinking somebody actually wants to conquer their mismanaged huts.

Allow me to correct your math. As per your posting, you said that Israel is interested in only one thing, but then you go on to list 2 things. Your views on Israel are about as accurate as your math!

Olmert must go. What does he mean: "small border skirmishes"? That Hizballah will not invade to Israel? This is what everybody knows without Olmert. When he says, that "reality was changed but there will be skirmishes on the border", he, in fact, says to Hizballah: "We are inviting you to attack our border. We will tolerate it. We will not launch war over such skirmishes". Olmert is a failure.

Olmert now attempts to portray himself as tough. Meaning, no talks, he doesn't give a hoot, "things have changed, please stop criticizing me, boohoohoo. " Olmert "brushes off" just about everything. Hezballah supporters? No problem; as long as they don't carry arms, they are "meaningless". No they're not, you incompetent ass. Try projecting this support into the future. Support keeps Hezballah in arms. Duh, was that too hard?

Ehud Olmert rejected Thursday a Syrian overture to open peace negotiations. Why is nobody surprised? Israel was, is, and continues to be the aggressor in the Middle East conflict. It makes no difference if it's in the stolen occupied territories in the West Bank, in the stolen Golan Heights, or in now occupied Southern Lebanon. Syria has tried to yet again open the door to peace and the Jewish State slams it shut. Israel is interested in one thing alone, namely the profits to be gained by stealing Arab lands and the profits to be gained by instigating wars (note Iraq and now Iran) and prolonging the conflict.

Firstly,in regards to his comment re the stone throwers on the border and their irrelevance,i think its a bit rich to state "None of them is walking around with arms,and all?????those who tried to carry weapons were killed by our forces in lebanon ........" I must of watched a different war ,all Hesb Allah fighters were killed??????? Grandiose generalisations,next he will be saying they defeated Hesb Allah!!!!!!! And all I hear from respondants on this forum is how bad Siniora is given the clown that runs Israel.

Assad says he wants the Golan back. Olmert says it is a part of Israel. Assad says he wants to talk about peace. Olmert says not before you stop supporting Hamas & Hezbollah. It seems that Olmert's plan is to avoid taking any major decision during the time he has left. He's turning a deaf ear to any dialogue. Time is ticking however for Israel.