• Published 00:00 25.09.07
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Peres: Ahmadinejad at Columbia like talks with Hitler before WWII

Iranians say harsh words by Columbia University President Bollinger to Ahmadinejad were unjustified.

By Agencies Tags: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Iran Shimon Peres

President Shimon Peres on Tuesday criticized Columbia University for hosting Iran's president, comparing the event to attempts to engage Adolf Hitler in dialogue before World War Two.

During his speech at the university in New York on Monday, Iranian President Mahmoud Amhadinejad attacked Israel's treatment of the Palestinians and denied his country's nuclear program was aimed at building atomic weapons.

Ahmadinejad has come under international criticism for saying that Israel should be "wiped off the map" and has questioned whether the Nazi Holocaust that killed 6 million Jews actually took place.

Introducing the Iranian president, Columbia University President Lee Bollinger said Ahmadinejad behaved as a "petty and cruel dictator" and that his Holocaust denials suggested he was either "brazenly provocative or astonishingly uneducated".

Bollinger asked a string of pointed questions, most of which Ahmadinejad ignored in a speech that dwelt at length on science as a gift from God and the importance of using knowledge and learning purely and in a pious way.

But Peres said Columbia's invitation to the Iranian leader did not fall under the umbrella of free academic expression because Ahmadinejad "simply stood up and lied."

"I think that Columbia University made a mistake ... With Hitler there was a dialogue. [British Prime Minister Neville] Chamberlain went to talk to him. What did it help? It helped cover the fact that Hitler prepared concentration camps and death camps," Peres told Reuters.

"I don't accept the university's explanations, because if a university is a platform where lies are permissible, then it is not academic ... So all of yesterday's show was wretched," Peres said.

Iranians: Harsh words by Columbia president to Ahmadinejad unjustifiedIranians on Tuesday called Bollinger's combative introduction of Ahmadinejad shameful and said the harsh words only added to their image of the United States as a bully.

In a region where the tradition of hospitality outweighs personal opinions toward a person, many in Iran thought Bollinger's aggressive tone - including telling Ahmadinejad that he exhibited the signs of a petty and cruel dictator - was over the top.

"The surprising point of the meeting is the behavior of the university president. Before a speech by president Ahmadinejad the chancellor criticized President Ahmadinejad, resorting to a statement full of insult, which was mostly Zionists' propaganda against Iran," state-run radio reported.

The chancellors of seven Iranian universities issued a letter on Tuesday to Bollinger saying his statements were deeply shameful and invited him to come to Iran.

In the letter, they asked him to provide responses to 10 questions ranging from: "Why did the U.S. support the bloodthirsty dictator Saddam Hussein during the 1980-88 Iraqi-imposed war on Iran?" to "Why has the U.S. military failed to find al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden even with all its advanced equipment?"

In response to Bollinger's harsh words, Ahmadinejad smiled at first but then decried the insults and unfriendly treatment.

While Ahmadinejad likely expected at worst a hostile grilling by the audience, Bollinger's sardonic comments reflected a blatant disregard for the tradition of hospitality revered in the Middle East. His comments may deflect some of the U.S. criticism he got for issuing the invitation to the Iranian president, but it could also backfire by drawing sympathy for Ahmedinejad, even in quarters where he would normally be sharply criticized.

"I don't know why he (Ahmadinejad) stayed there and did not leave the meeting. Their attitude was an insult to the nature of the meeting. They should not treat him as a suspect," said Mahmoud Rouhi, a nurse, in Tehran. Though state media did not broadcast Monday's event live in Farsi, state-run TV showed a recorded version on Tuesday.

"The meeting and their approach showed that Americans, even in a cultural position, work as cowboy and nothing more," said Rasoul Qaresi, customer of a grocery in Tehran downtown.

Ahmadinejad's international allies have also taken his side. Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, who is expecting a visit from Ahmadinejad later this week, said he spoke by phone with the Iranian leader on Monday after his tense showdown at Columbia University in New York.

"I congratulate him, in the name of the Venezuelan people, before a new aggression of the U.S. empire," Chavez said, adding that it seemed Ahmadinejad was the subject of an ambush.

Ahmadinejad is set to address the U.N. General Assembly later Tuesday. Thousands of people protested Ahmadinejad's visit Monday and more were expected to rally in the streets Tuesday when the Iranian leader attends the meeting for the third time in three years.

For more on Ahmadinejad's speech at Columbia University:Iranian President: If Holocaust happened, why must Palestinians pay?ANALYSIS: The clear loser from Ahmadinejad's visit is Israel

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad at the UN Tuesday. (Reuters)

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  • 82. 0 0
    Ahmadinejad
    • Paul
    • 27.09.07
    • 17:54

    He's an old male-goat and nothing more.He relies on Baal,therfore let him be,for he will do as he is told.He talks about Israel(Badly),but he's is going to attack,another country (entirely).The scripture,tells us so!

  • 81. 0 0
    The New Hitler?
    • Scott
    • 27.09.07
    • 03:52

    For one to assert with a straight face that the Iranian president is the next Adolph Hitler exhibits an astonishing disconnect from all things reality. Iran is a third world nation that has not invaded another country for decades, unlike its antagonists, Israel and the US. Hitler dictated a socialist nation; Iran is a theocracy/ rep. democracy. Israel has hundreds of atomic weapons; the US thousands. Iran, by the way, has none. The "danger" of Iran having a nuclear bomb is of course predicated on the assumption that it would actually be used, rather than, say, for mere deterrant purposes. Bottom line, a cool glance at the basic facts paint a far different picture than the scare rhetoric of proven liars.

  • 80. 0 0
    If there were"BRAZENLY PROVOCATIVE or ASTONISHLY UNEDUCATED
    • Ali Reza
    • 26.09.07
    • 14:21

    it was that so called President of the Columbia University, Lee Bolinger certainly not Mr Ahmadinejad, who showed his calme manner. I'm afraid that The University of Columbia will be looked on by many Middle East citizens ,where people learn BAD MANNERS. Shame on Mr Bolinger.

  • 79. 0 0
    Peres completely right
    • Doron
    • 26.09.07
    • 00:41

    and columbia very stupid to invite him

  • 78. 0 0
    Rowan #1, to a senile he might have sounded senile
    • Johnny
    • 26.09.07
    • 00:31

    But to me it sounded good. And I'm sure it did to many other non seniles.

  • 77. 0 0
    Only one disgraceful fool here
    • Marlene N.
    • 26.09.07
    • 00:13

    And that was Bollinger. Regardless of what anyone thinks of the Iranian President, he was invited to Columbia University and was a guest. In his so-called "welcome" speech, before Ahmadinejad even spoke, he was viciously attacked. The proper course was to welcome him, and permit Ahmadinejad to speak, and then to respond civilly. Bollinger should step down. This is a disgrace for a President of a well-known university to behave this way to his guest. The other alternative was then not to invite him at all.

  • 76. 0 0
    "Mr. Peace" Peres Wakes Up?
    • Yoram
    • 26.09.07
    • 00:11

    Considering Peres' past comments on the Palestinians I am shocked about what he has to say about Ahmadinejad. I would think that like Abbas, our "partner for peace", Ahmadinejad is not an adversary but someone Israel can work with in a grand vision for the future of peace and the region. If not, well maybe Israel needs a much younger President?

  • 75. 0 0
    #63 Sherry
    • Alice of Wonderland
    • 26.09.07
    • 00:06

    IF you have seen pics of religious Moslems in Britain, with bushy beards, short hair or bald, long dresses, wearing white lace head-covers, many have also big, heavy bulging bellies; this is how I picture him. His country of origin? I bet on Iran. British universities were full to the brink with Iranian students in the 70s. They became fanatic supporters of Khomeini. Many travelled back to Iran, but returned a few years later, as they woke up to 1)the war with Iraq 2)from their religious illusions to disappointing reality of Ayatollah-dictatorship. They thought the Shah had been bad, but Iran went from bad to worse! Nevertheless, in Europe they clung fanatically to religion. They returned for Europe's wealth and freedom sake, which they don't have in Iran and ironically so, though they hate the West, yet they want to live here and enjoy what Europe has to offer! It is difficult to grasp,why they do not try to develop their own country to their liking with freedoms they LOVE here?

  • 74. 0 0
    Bollinger is 1st amend. expert
    • Ethel
    • 25.09.07
    • 23:11

    Read the article in todays' WSJ.Bollinger is a 1st amend. expert and the dean of the law school is a tax lawyer.They disagreed over the visit.One Columbia student said he did not know Ahmadinejad rejected the Holocaust or homosexuals so he learned something from the talk and of course, disagreed with Ahmadinedjad. Only the naive believe in dialogue, could this include the ADL? Amer. Jewish Committee? This is not about dialogue. It is about free speech and diplomatic immunity, keeping the channels of communication open in times of difficulties betweeen countries. I would rather you all be talking to each other everyday than bombing each other into oblivion tomorrow without having talked to each other at all. BTW, hysterical Caroline Glick is going to talk to the Jewish Republicans next week about Iran; those animals who do not understand and believe in the 1st amend. Are they akin to Kahane? Baruch Goldstein? I believe in free speech and the most liberal version of it as Bollinger does

  • 73. 0 0
    The Iranian Leader was invited to Columbia U.
    • Dagma
    • 25.09.07
    • 23:02

    by Lee Bollinger,in my humble opinion, specially because he wanted to tell Ahmadinejad to his face EXACTLY WHAT HE THOUGHT OF HIM! and that was how it seemed. Bollinger must have been wanting to do this for a long time now and gave himsel the opportunity to do so. Congratulations to Lee Bollinger!

  • 72. 0 0
    Click Fool are you MUSLIM?
    • Sherry
    • 25.09.07
    • 22:46

    and if not, what are you?

  • 71. 0 0
    Homosexuals?
    • David Goldberg
    • 25.09.07
    • 22:46

    well, it sure is good news that there are no homosexuals in iran, i think we can all breathe easier now.

  • 70. 0 0
    Peres is making a mountain out of a molehill,,,
    • Dutch
    • 25.09.07
    • 22:25

    Peres is making a mountain out of a molehill. He should blow this one off. It's not going to change the way the stars and moon are set.

  • 69. 0 0
    Pal Mufti and WW2 Genocide
    • HonestAbe
    • 25.09.07
    • 22:21

    During WW2 the Palestinian Mufti of Jerusalem was intamate with Hitler and fully participated in genocide against the Jews. Ahmadman claims that the Pals had nothing to do with the Holocaust, but this is not true. In fact, the opposite is true! The Mufti insisted that 5,000 Polish Jewish children be gassed instead of traded for German POW's and he was responsable for the genocide of 90% of the Jews of Bosnia by moslem SS. To listen to that madman's take on history is revolting and bazarre and he should not be able to get away with it!

  • 68. 0 0
    There are No Gays or Nuclear Weapons Research In Iran ;)
    • Efox
    • 25.09.07
    • 22:13

    Right, we should like, totally believe that, it's like plausible and stuff, really, not at all unlikely, not a single gay, not even one, not even a nuclear weapons researching gay midget for that matter. Really! Ignore The Man Behind The Curtain! The Great And Powerful OZ Commands It!

  • 67. 0 0
    Israeli - do you ever look in the mirror
    • Chris
    • 25.09.07
    • 21:59

    I read this board to try and understand the Israeli perspective and I cannot believe what I read. Do you people really believe Israel was formed fairly? by stripping land from Palestinians- and it was the British, Belforte document - not the UN. Do you really not know the evilness of your deeds to the Palestinians? You mention Hitler, do you not see the Berlin Wall you are building? I can only summize that your media and education misguides, misinforms, and outright lies to you. Do you really believe you were ready for peace in 67? and later with the disguise of a peace process, you want to give back limited land, no air rights, no water rights, and disect the land as part of your peace deal - I do not know how you can come to peace when you appear as irrational people that have only lies and misinformation to guide them. Does any Israeli recognize the wrong that they are doing in this world?

  • 66. 0 0
    55Mimi.Dr.A. has invited Bush for dialogue and I'm pretty sure he
    • lakshmi
    • 25.09.07
    • 21:58

    would have been received like royalty.That's the Iranian tradition.Whereas,bollinger acted like a boor(and a bore!).his job was to introduce the guest speaker and not start a vicious attack even before the speech had been delivered!That's not done;not the proper protocol to have shown such indecent haste.He could have waited till the speech was over and then asked his'tough' questions.Obviously playing to the gallery,to the Jewish Lobby.Scared out of his wits that monies would be witheld as with Brandeis.And yes,the chancellors have the right to ask questions of Bush,since an academic in the U.S. asked questions(started a tirade,more accurately!) of the Iranian President.

  • 65. 0 0
    How Ah-maddinejad could have avoided Bollinger's wrath
    • Chick
    • 25.09.07
    • 21:56

    Handed Bollinger a nice check to establish a chair at Columbia.

  • 64. 0 0
    presidents in public
    • james phillips
    • 25.09.07
    • 21:53

    At least Ahamadenijad has the guts to stand before an aidience of ordinary americans and answer questions. Bush has never done that.

  • 63. 0 0
    Iran & israel realationship
    • Farid
    • 25.09.07
    • 21:46

    as a student i believe holocust,but it would be better to refuse fight against arabic countries,i hate arabic countries beacuse they are stupid.i suggest that you should not fight with such a stupid coutries.i wish you found better way to catch peace instead of war. sincerely

  • 62. 0 0
    Shana 32
    • Bill H.
    • 25.09.07
    • 21:16

    What's preposterous is some clown telling the world the Holocaust never happened. Why be fair to a monster who calls for the total destruction of a country? Thats kind of like saying "Lets be fair to rabid dogs and not hurt them." As for your feelings on the United States Of America and Israel : Nobody is forcing you to live here. Why don't you go live in some peaceful country like Iran? I'm sure they would welcome you and we wont miss you here.

  • 61. 0 0
    To Mimi, Ahmedinejad should be wearing an orange jumpsuit
    • Jake
    • 25.09.07
    • 21:14

    Ahmedinejad was lucky to be allowed on US soil let alone in Columbia University, an event that Bollinger allowed in the interest of freedom of speech. the closest Ahmedinejad should have been allowed to US territory is Guantanamo Bay.

  • 60. 0 0
    Which Iranians ???
    • DP
    • 25.09.07
    • 21:12

    Iranians: Harsh words by Columbia president to Ahmadinejad unjustified... CRY CRY CRY for the Iranian lunatic.

  • 59. 0 0
    yussef gideon...whether you have a good...
    • maria
    • 25.09.07
    • 20:54

    army or whatever....who can win over arabs who don't value lives?that's why an idea of suicide bombing was invented,according to hamas leader,the muslims found out the weakness of the jewish people[they value lives].we can't win against suicide bombers-they even use toddlers to do their evil plot.

  • 58. 0 0
    Peres' Remarks
    • gregdn
    • 25.09.07
    • 20:51

    It's none of mr. Peres' business who we let in this country or choose to talk to.

  • 57. 0 0
    yussef gideon
    • maria
    • 25.09.07
    • 20:49

    mordecai was not esther's stepfather,he was her uncle and guardian[or probably her cousin] since hadassah's parents had passed away.

  • 56. 0 0
    Mark#15
    • Kapule David Mabuta
    • 25.09.07
    • 20:37

    Either your logic is twisted or you are simply a racist. I see your lamentations.Can't the same be said against Sudan's Arab and Muslim junta's actions on indigenous African Sudanese.How may Africans live as slaves in Sudan.Are you aware that Sudan Arabs keep and own African Sudanese slaves that they trick in the most despicable manner than your lamentations.If its justice,let it be for all or none and you shurt up!!!

  • 55. 0 0
    Chancellors of Iranian universities issued a letter to Bollinger:
    • Mimi
    • 25.09.07
    • 20:09

    "The chancellors of seven Iranian universities issued a letter on Tuesday to Bollinger saying his statements were deeply shameful and invited him to come to Iran. In the letter, they asked him to provide responses to 10 questions ranging from: 'Why did the U.S. support the bloodthirsty dictator Saddam Hussein during the 1980-88 Iraqi-imposed war on Iran?' to 'Why has the U.S. military failed to find al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden even with all its advanced equipment?' " Bollinger's questions and harsh words were directed to Ahmadinejad, president of Iran, not to the chancellor of an Iranian university. The questions asked by the Iranian university chancellors are appropriate, but they should be directed to George W. Bush, president of the U.S., not to the president of Columbia University. If Bush were to have accepted an invitation to speak at an Iranian university, I doubt that he would have been received hospitably by the chancellor of that university.

  • 54. 0 0
    ClickFOOL, Chris Linthwaite, Joe and Rowan
    • Dave from Chicago
    • 25.09.07
    • 19:41

    Why do you all bother to post here? Is it more fun to taunt us hated Jews here then to bash us on arabnews.com or somewhere like that? Your posts are almost always so one sided they must make some of the Arabs wonder where you have parted with reality. Nontheless Ahmadinejad supporters, justify this: http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/0,4644,2396,00.html#1_0 In case the link does not work it shows in detain two Iranian teenagers being hung for alleged homosexuality.

  • 53. 0 0
    I think the comparisson should be the Ayotollahs
    • The Director
    • 25.09.07
    • 19:38

    President Peres should make comparisons to the Ayotollahs and the German regime of the Second world war. That would be more appropriate as in both instances you have parrallels in that both built covert weapons facilities deep in the mountains.It is the Mullahs and Ayotollahs whom were the architects of the Iranian deterrent portfolio that exists in Iran today. The world need answers on proliferation be that covert or otherwise in the region, that is why we have the IAEA to carry out inspections. Proliferation in the region is a threat to regional peace and stability, that applies to countries like Pakistan as it does to Iran. The people of Israel need to have urgent inspections carried out by the IAEA to the facilities that have been picked up by Satelitte in Iran or the only alternative would be a unilateral position.

  • 52. 0 0
    Ahdaminejad
    • siegfried buchwalte
    • 25.09.07
    • 19:34

    Hitler fits in the unreleting hate propaganda by the mullahs, the half-truth lies, and the skillful distortion of truth and the duality of his aggressiveness

  • 51. 0 0
    Ahdaminejad
    • siegfried buchwalte
    • 25.09.07
    • 19:31

    When chamberlain arrived in Berchtesgaden Hitler and Ribbentrop assured the world that Germany has no other aspirations, his lies and duplicity came out within 1 year. As far as England the prince of Windsor was an avowed Nazi and England had a fascist party led by Mosley. Maybe all those ignoramuses condemning Israel should know history Rashid Ali in Iraq and Fawzi elKaujki and the Mufti of Jerusalem,Amin el Husseini had close ties with Eichmann and Hitler.Those lovely Palestinians would have cut the throat of every Jew

  • 50. 0 0
    To Shana
    • Jake
    • 25.09.07
    • 19:26

    I hope, I just hope that you are not a Jew. It is Jews like you that acted as apologists as the worst enemies of the Jewish people throughout history and brought shame on us. Take that one to heart.

  • 49. 0 0
    Naieve Jens
    • Jake
    • 25.09.07
    • 19:18

    "Remember that the driving motive of Hitler, was the idea to acquire territory in the east and settle it with germans. Something he carried out bit by bit first sudetenland, then checkoslovakia etc. Where exactly does this fit on Iran?" Do you really think history repeats itself so neatly? Iran does not seek to settle Iranians in the East, just to export its Islamofascist revolution abroad and reprogram naieve victims like you into disciples of the Islamofascist ideology, so that they can become martyrs in the Ayatollah's Jihad against "Great Satan" to hasten the arrival of "the 12th imam". Wake up, and grow up.

  • 48. 0 0
    Amazing to see all the spineless attacks on Bollinger here.
    • Jake
    • 25.09.07
    • 19:12

    What nerve. Not a word about about Ahmedinejad's senile claim that women in Iran enjoy the highest standards of human rights, or that homosexuals don't exist in Iran (not after he's through with them, they won't), or about his continued Holocaust denial, or about the fact that he was even allowed to set foot on Columbia University or US soil in the first place, considering is role in severing all relations between Iran and the US in the first place. And by the way, the Palestinian leadership (the Gross Mufti) were involved in the Holocaust, deeply.

  • 47. 0 0
    Will Bollinger be as frank with other leaders and - yes - donors?
    • Sensible
    • 25.09.07
    • 19:11

    Bollingers critique was obviously justified. This is why I supported this event: to confront A. with critical comments and questions, not scripts. And he came out as representing a medieval mindset - "no homosexuals", "no oppression of women".... Except Bollinger should have prepared his comments more carefully. For instance, A. is head of state, not government. He represents an oppressive dictatorship, but is not the dictator himself. It's the Ayatollah(s). Also his choice of phrases was quite poor. But Bollinger being a New Yorker, I cut him some slack here. Now the interesting question: Has Bollinger in the past spoken so frankly when other leaders/donors visited and/or will he do so in the future? In Bollinger's spirit, I could envision great discussions at Columbia with the Chinese, Russian,and-yes-some Western leader. Western elected politicians go primarily into staged press conferences with selected journalists. Is Bollinger for real or a bully only when everyone agrees?

  • 46. 0 0
    Chris Linthwaite
    • Margie in Tel Aviv
    • 25.09.07
    • 19:11

    In his run down of the events of WW2 CL forgets to remark that the ex-King of England was a Nazi collaborator, who continued to have dealings with the Nazi regime throughout the war and was prepared to take over the throne again when his erstwhile subjects had been defeated. It was worth his while financially, I suppose.

  • 45. 0 0
    jens @ 12-equating ahmadi with...
    • scanadu
    • 25.09.07
    • 19:09

    hitler and iran with nazi germany is a gross error, as germany was the most developed military and industrial state of europe at the end of the thirties whereas iran is barely a third rank developing state which really isn't much better than sadam's iraq ,another overblown third world state which collapsed in a few days of air strikes. still is a menace for israel due in principal to the huggeness of its teritory and population as compared with the miniature state of israel.

  • 44. 0 0
    It takes one to know one
    • Clickfool
    • 25.09.07
    • 18:59

    "But Peres said Columbia's invitation to the Iranian leader did not fall under the umbrella of free academic expression because Ahmadinejad "simply stood up and lied.""

  • 43. 0 0
    On Peres and his so-called Haaretz blog
    • Clickfool
    • 25.09.07
    • 18:57

    Did Peres ever reply to any of the questions and comments we contributed to his so-called "blog" on Haaretz?

  • 42. 0 0
    President's visit
    • YIDN
    • 25.09.07
    • 18:52

    What hitler did was far worst than these two-bit dictators today did. By using the Hitler compairison, it reduces the damage and horror Hitler did. Of course, the President of Iran would be a student of Hitler, not Hitler reincarnate. I do believe the President of Iran is anti-Jewish from his statements on the Holocaust and Israel. He made himself a fool in front of the world by speaking at Columbia. But he is not the power--it is the Iranian clergy that run the show. Ahminedijad(sp)is just a mouth piece for Iran.

  • 41. 0 0
    Hate-drenched Ahmad.
    • Esther
    • 25.09.07
    • 18:39

    The analogy between Ahmad and Hitler is entirely valid. The main difference is that today the Western world is fully aware of the checks and balances that must be imposed on the likes of such dangerous dictators. And thank heaven, ofcourse, that Israel is now a power to be reckoned with. Ahmed tried so hard to be on his best behaviour at Columbia, but he could not keep it up and finally burst out with his shocking, ridiculous and hate-drenched Holocaust contention. That gave him away entirely.

  • 40. 0 0
    i do not understand
    • cool
    • 25.09.07
    • 18:35

    hitler did not cite the koran hitler did not use the word peace hitler did not lie about his plans hitler did not ask questions hitler was a failed artist hitler was austrian hitler spoke German ?

  • 39. 0 0
    Peres: Ahmadinejad at Columbia like talks with Hitler before WW2
    • Colin Wright
    • 25.09.07
    • 18:33

    Friggin' ridiculous analogy. And on so many scores, too. Israel needs to wake up to the fact that not all arguments can be won simply by comparing her opponents to Hitler. Ford might as well try to win sales away from GM by complaining that GM is 'like Hitler.'

  • 38. 0 0
    to all iranians
    • ross
    • 25.09.07
    • 18:28

    you're crying at the treatment of your president - oh, boo hoo cry some more - we don't care what you think of us - we know what you are- plus you're too weak to take on a unfair government- religious thugs rule your world - they tell you what to think, act and behave every minute of the day - so go ahead and cry all you want - you treat people badly - how does it feel with the shoe on the other foot - persia may have once been great but those days are long gone

  • 37. 0 0
    who's worse iran or israel?
    • lauren
    • 25.09.07
    • 18:24

    Are you kidding me??? Diversity in Christians, Muslims, and JEWS occupy israeli territory. just because it was named a Jewish state doesn't mean they condemn non-Jews. If you think that's the basis of Israels objectives you don't really know much of the situation or how the countrys' function. Read up before you make judgments, it sounds ridiculous in other cases.

  • 36. 0 0
    #26 Durson And Ahmadinejad Suit Each Other
    • Bill Foonman
    • 25.09.07
    • 18:23

    Rather than constantly "bashing" the only democracy in the Middle East, she should spend some time in Iran, where her big mouth and attitude would either have her stoned, strung up in public or simply disappear. How she can defend this lunatic who, among other incredulous statements, says that there are no gays in Iran, is beyond belief. Although it is entirely possible as the Iranian Morality Police may be well on their way to destroying the gay community. Let's face it, Durson is a first-class putz whether male, female or hermaphrodite.

  • 35. 0 0
    Neville Chamberlain
    • Chris Linthwaite
    • 25.09.07
    • 18:21

    Brought Great Britain time. Time we used to build Hurricanes and Spitfires. Time to perfect Radar. His priority was the defence of Great Britain, he did that job, which was his overriding responsability. Adolf Hitler in Mein Kampf had clearly stated lebensraum and untermenchen. Cristalnacht should have warned the world. It didn't. Peres is careful of course not to mention American Politicians including George W Bush's grandfather, who continued to have business dealings with the Nazi regime even after Hitler had invaded France. Best not upset the paymasters I suppose.

  • 34. 0 0
    Re Natallie #20
    • Esther
    • 25.09.07
    • 18:15

    In addition to some astute mulllings from time to time, Natallie also comes out with real trash sometimes.

  • 33. 0 0
    ETHEL: why have free speech?
    • Alice of Wonderland
    • 25.09.07
    • 18:14

    Free speech means to keep focused on the topic at hand. When the free speech is used to make personal degaratory comments about some person, which are IRRELEVANT to the topic, the free speech no longer serves its ENLIGHTENING purpose. THIS is exactly what happened in Columbia. Bollinger side-tracked from intellectual and academic exchange of thoughts, which ALWAYS are expected to take place in a civilized, friendly manner and in a non-aggressive atmosphere, which means: no personal insults and remarks, no abusive language and verbal attacks. Lastly: Ahmadenijad was Bollinger's invited guest and therefore expected to have been treated with respect...regardless of Ahmad's opinions, which we know, though do not like about. Personally I really would like to know what motivated Bollinger to invite Ahmadenijad to begin with, since we all KNEW beforehand, what was coming??????

  • 32. 0 0
    #19
    • Shana
    • 25.09.07
    • 18:10

    You have a right to your opinion as I have a right to mine. This man was not given a fair stand. It's preposterous! There are 2 countries calling for death and destruction, the US and Israel.

  • 31. 0 0
    If Ahmadinejad were a palestinian
    • Chick
    • 25.09.07
    • 18:04

    Peres would be calling him a 'partner'.

  • 30. 0 0
    why?
    • alex
    • 25.09.07
    • 17:46

    Although I am a general supporter of Israel, I don't understand these statements, I think Bollinger exposed Ahmedinajad for what he is, and although it may have had a slight Jerry Springer feel to it, I see no reason for these obviously extreme comparisons, it just makes Israeli leaders look out of touch with reality. Grow up and concentrate on the tasks at hand.

  • 29. 0 0
    Ethel #16
    • Daniel W
    • 25.09.07
    • 17:42

    Great words. Written, however, before Hitler, Stalin, and Bin Ladden. I really wonder if Columbia's Bollinger would have invited them to deliver 'free speeches' and possibly convince a few students to convert to their ideas. You guys are quite naive, I must say. There are no absolutely correct rules ('free speech must always be applied') and democracy has its own limits, defined by the possibility of self-destruction, like when free elections are used to put despotic, anti-democratic types in power (Hitler was freely elected). Same here.

  • 28. 0 0
    Iran's Israelite past
    • Yussef Gideon
    • 25.09.07
    • 17:38

    One of the main reasons Israel and the US keep failing militarily and diplomatically in the Mideast is that they keep failing to guide Iran, a non-Arab state, away from the brutality enforced on them by the Islamacists. This is best begun by reeducating Iranians about the glorious Israelite roots in Persia: Daniel the Viceroy prophet, Esther the beautiful virgin Queen, and her kinsman and stepfather, Mordecai the Viceroy. There are no Hitlers and Chamberlains here, just two great countries with bankrupct foreign policies, and another rich country with a rich past, presently beset with evil. The demagougery there will subside IF we do not follow suit, but present them with hope and real glorious Bible history. John Isenhower.

  • 27. 0 0
    #12 dear old jens and his lack of knowledge
    • victor hardman
    • 25.09.07
    • 17:36

    instead of afternoons at the tivoli jens you need to study islam ! this is a world conquering religion which has already created 56 countries in thrall in 1400 years and is devoted to apartheid for women and dhimmis ! how long before denmark has a crescent flag instead of a cross??

  • 26. 0 0
    Natalie Durson is NOT a fEMINIST
    • FOX
    • 25.09.07
    • 17:26

    Natalie I would have expected a little Leftist like yourself, to be a feminist. But from your writings I see that this is not a subject close to your heart. Natalie are you a guy? or just a guy -wanna-be? I remember when Leftist women fought hard for their rights, from education, employment, to breaking through the unwritten laws of female promiscuity. Burning their bras, shaking their butts for the cameras. Now comes along Natalie, one of the New Left, the Left void of morals and convictions. The Left that does not wish to work in the Postal Service, join in violent revolution or give up their music and their wide screen tv's. This Left's only raison-d'etre is anti-Americanism. thus Natalie, boy or girl, does not find the subject of women relevant to this debate. That Aqualvalvjad wishes the women of Iran to be policed by "Morality Squads" on the streets of Tehran, for dressing in a manner which does not fit the spirit of Islam, leaves her numb with apathy.

  • 25. 0 0
    no more Hitler analogies
    • leucippe
    • 25.09.07
    • 17:22

    It does no one any service to invoke Hitler; it's a foolish parallel (and remember that parallel lines never meet), but just take Ahmadinejad on his own terms -- as a rabble-rouser, part clown, mostly villain. I think that Bollinger of Columbia has done us all a disservice by staging such a show at Columbia (and it was high camp theater) but in the process, giving credence and respectability to a man like A.

  • 24. 0 0
    Free SPEECH, a load of crap
    • FOX
    • 25.09.07
    • 17:19

    For starters, Ahmanijad, as a foreigner visiting America, does not have the same rights to free speech as an American. Others, not all Arabs, for decades have not been allowed in the US to speak because of their anti-American sentiments. Columbia is a fraud. Just last year a gentleman representing the "Minutemen" who guard the US Mexican border was booed and physically forced off the stage by Leftist students. No Free Speech for that American. I remember when Netanyahu faced racist Arab and Leftist students at Concordia, who violently reacted to his "right" to free speech. Ahmanijad who hails from a country that sponsors a "Death to America" day anually, is certainly not a reasonable person to have speak in the US of A. Especially when we are living in a time when Leftist do not stand for anything whatsoever other than Hatred of America. I can hear Kruschev banging his shoe.

  • 23. 0 0
    Peres had to steal his lines from Bibi
    • Rowan Berkeley
    • 25.09.07
    • 17:13

    "Iran is Germany, Ahmadinejad is Hitler, 2007 is 1938, etc..." If he wasn't senile already, he could have thought up lines of his own.

  • 22. 0 0
    JOE
    • DANNY.
    • 25.09.07
    • 17:05

    JOE TO THE IGNORANT PIG. YOU TALK RUBBISH AND YOU ARE IGNORANT AND SHOULD GO BACK TO SCHOOL. GOD BLESS ISRAEL ALWAYS AND FOREVER. AMEN

  • 21. 0 0
    Peres response to Ahmadinejad
    • Gary M. Cooperberg
    • 25.09.07
    • 17:01

    In the context with which you admonished Columbia for inviting Ahmadinejad, how do you explain your illegal initiation of contacts with arch terrorist Arafat and the consequent establishment of normal ties with an entity which continues to seek the destruction of the Jewish State?

  • 20. 0 0
    Maybe midway between anti-semite and Hitler?
    • Natallie Durson
    • 25.09.07
    • 17:00

    The two primary insults used by Jews against non-Jews are to call them "anti-semites", or Hitler. There is no middle ground. Neither one carries much sting since the latter is ridiculous and the former is overused and vague in its meaning. If you think anti-semite refers to a person who hates and persecutes all Jews because of their religion, think again. All you have to do is piss off any Jew for any reason, and you are an anti-semite. To be called a Hitler should require some special qualification well above and beyond that of the garden variety anti-semite. I don't think making threats or calling for doom is enough. I do agree that that would qualify a person to be an anti-semite, although calling Ahmadinejad an anti-semite lacks drama. In the end, many Israeli politicians are drama queens, which seems to suit their constituancy just fine.

  • 19. 0 0
    SHANA
    • TOM
    • 25.09.07
    • 17:00

    UNBELIEVABLE YOU CALL HIM A LEADER,HE IS JUST THE MULLAH'S PUPPET

  • 18. 0 0
    Mark
    • Barry
    • 25.09.07
    • 16:56

    Dear Mark: The U.N actually created Israel and Palestine in 1947. The local Arabs and surrounding states refused to recognize either, while the local Arabs allied themselves instead with either Jordan, Syria, or Egypt. Had they accepted Israel, there would have been a much truncated Israel and larger "Palestine" for over 60 years. Speaking of which, had the Arabs said yes to the Israel proposal to return the West Bank in exchange for peace in 1967, there would have already been a Palestine. The same goes for Barak's offer to Arafat in 2000. (Let us not mention Gaza where Hamas refuses to rule its own people as a state).

  • 17. 0 0
    Rowan Berkeley
    • Sarah
    • 25.09.07
    • 16:52

    Do you think what Peres said was disconnected rubbish? You for one shouldn't be surprised, that's what you keep doing on these talkbacks day in and day out.

  • 16. 0 0
    Why have free speech?
    • Ethel
    • 25.09.07
    • 16:49

    "It's vital to the attainment and advancement of knowledge, and the search for the truth. The eminent 19th-century writer and civil libertarian, John Stuart Mill, contended that enlightened judgment is possible only if one considers all facts and ideas, from whatever source, and tests one's own conclusions against opposing views. Therefore, all points of view -- even those that are "bad" or socially harmful -- should be represented in society's "marketplace of ideas." It's necessary to our system of self-government and gives the American people a "checking function" against government excess and corruption. If the American people are to be the masters of their fate and of their elected government, they must be well-informed and have access to all information, ideas and points of view. Mass ignorance is a breeding ground for oppression and tyranny." ACLU website.

  • 15. 0 0
    Ahamadinejad's list of truths... does annoy some circles
    • Mark
    • 25.09.07
    • 16:39

    Ahmadinejad is right on a number of issues and this obviously annoys some circles. He is right when he speaks of: - ill treatment of Palestinians at the hands of Israel: murder of children, house demolitions, land theft, and the list is long... - how the Palestinians were made to pay the price for something they didn't do. If Jews suffered, is it then right for them, in the name of their suffering, to inflict a ten fold pain on the Palestinians? Why have whole villages been wiped ou? why whole families were murdered? why lands were simply confiscated? etc. etc. all so that Israel is born. - Unbalanced and often cruel US foreign policy and wars in the region, which led to thousands of deaths, the suffering of millions of families across the region... and, in response, intense hatred towards the US and its ally Israel is at its peak.

  • 14. 0 0
    Using and abusing America and Israel
    • Brent
    • 25.09.07
    • 16:33

    Bollinger humiliated America with his rude and abusive behavior. Name calling in public is demeaning to those (and whom they represent)doing it. Those pushing war on Iran are again manipulating Americans and Israelis to the detriment of both... and to humanity. Whose interest is being served? Who gains by ongoing wars and domination? Who refuses a bridge between Israel and Palestine, between Islam and America? Who is creating divisions? Why? I've wondered what would have been the reply had Saddam put a big weapon in the hands of of a gang to use? Isn't that what Cruise Missles are for? Hasn't deterrence worked over time? Killing a million people? Who are we anyway?

  • 13. 0 0
    Peres tough on Columbia, lenient on terrorists
    • Chick
    • 25.09.07
    • 16:32

    Tough taking Peres. And afterwards? Release palestinian terrorists. Hand over Judea Samaria to the PLO. Divide Jerusalem ( what happens to his right hand?). Carve Israel up while the Hashemites smile on the East Bank in Palestine. Peres was important to Israel obtaining nuclear weapons and for that he should be honored. No nation needs defensive nuclear weapons as does Israel. However, Peres as do so many, ignore the formative and modern history of the creation of Israel and is willing to establish a second Palestine in Judea Samaria. And as Israel sees its own Arab population growing, Peres sees no problem with a Judenrein Judea Samaria under Arab control. Any entity that denies Jews the right to live within its borders is an anti-Semitic entity and should not be encouraged or befriended. He is willing to accept Judenrein Jewish land and at the same time help to Arabize Israel. he has no concept of reciprocity and thus rejects justice for Jews. But he's very tough on Columbia U.

  • 12. 0 0
    Minimizing Hitler and Nazism
    • Jens
    • 25.09.07
    • 16:25

    Saying that Iran and their president are equal with Hitler and Nazi germany is minimizing an important historical event. Remember that the driving motive of Hitler, was the idea to acquire territory in the east and settle it with germans. Something he carried out bit by bit first sudetenland, then checkoslovakia etc. Where exactly does this fit on Iran?

  • 11. 0 0
    On what Ahmadinejad actually said
    • Rowan Berkeley
    • 25.09.07
    • 16:09

    I found his remarks about the reality of religion being unitary - mystical if you like - very relevant. I have to admit that he has not as yet had the finer points of gender-bending subtextuality explained to him, so his answers on this score fell a little flat with me.

  • 10. 0 0
    Shana
    • Daniel W
    • 25.09.07
    • 16:09

    We heard the man. We heard him now, and before, many times. It is of no use, the guy lives on his own planet, with a logic of his own, and he is dangerous! This is what happens when someone who is growing among 'central-bus-station types' is elected President of a state! I pity Iran if these are their leaders... In the meantime, they are most probably building a nuclear device, and will have to be stopped. Absolutely!

  • 9. 0 0
  • 8. 0 0
    Mr.Peres is right: Ahmedinejad looks like reincarnated Hitler
    • Vittorio
    • 25.09.07
    • 16:04

    Peres is too clever to be fooled by Ahmadinejad. Peres is not like Chambrelain.

  • 7. 0 0
    WHOES WORSE IRAN OR ISRAEL?
    • Joe
    • 25.09.07
    • 16:01

    Ahmadinajjad is rude and crude. That's all. Israelis have expelled non-jews, destroyed their homes, killed them, builds jews-only colonies. whose the bad guy?

  • 6. 0 0
    Hiltler twin
    • Danny
    • 25.09.07
    • 16:00

    There was no need to hear the President of Iran, we hear him all the time give his speech to 'wipe Israel off the Map", he never missed an opportunity to say this, so why hear him out at the prestigious University when the man is just a madman

  • 5. 0 0
    Hiltler twin
    • Danny
    • 25.09.07
    • 16:00

    There was no need to hear the President of Iran, we hear him all the time give his speech to 'wipe Israel off the Map", he never missed an opportunity to say this, so why hear him out at the prestigious University when the man is just a madman

  • 4. 0 0
    Ahmadinejad
    • Shana
    • 25.09.07
    • 15:51

    I was embarrassed by Bollinger's remarks. This is the leader of the Iranian nation. He had the guts to come and speak knowing the deck was stacked against him. How many other "world" leaders are doing this? You can't decide what he said until you hear the man NOT what the papers say.

  • 3. 0 0
    Pot and Kettle
    • Saba
    • 25.09.07
    • 15:49

    Ahmadinejad and Peres. Pot and kettle. Little to choose here.

  • 2. 0 0
    And Peres Like Chamberlain
    • ralphrant1
    • 25.09.07
    • 15:38

    And Peres is Like Chamberlain before WWII http://ralphsrant1.blogspot.com/

  • 1. 0 0
    Peres just sounds senile, here, frankly
    • Rowan Berkeley
    • 25.09.07
    • 15:37

    One would hope there was more to what he said than this disconnected rubbish.