Palestinians, U.S. Jews spar over 'Judaizing' Jerusalem

Why else would the pals try to take it from The Jews

What upstarts and bullies taking more than their share of Palestine and Jerusalem today. Why should anyone support such a state today? It's unGodly greed....Dutch

Do not confuse your animus toward Muslims and your need to disparage their connexion with the city with historic fact. You are simply wrong. Jerusalem is holy to Muslims as well as to Jews. You will argue degrees. The title in Islamic literature for the Holy City is: Ursalim, Al Quds, or translated, Jerusalem, the Holy. That is from the Hebrew but it does not mean that the city belongs exclusively to the Jews and you can do with others who love, as you wish in your vision.

What it DOES NOT mean is that Jerusalem is not connected deeply with Jewish history, religioon and sentiment. It does not mean that people are claiming Jews have no right to live, work and worship in Jerusalem It does not mean that Jews can, as individuals, live where they chose in Jerusalem, just as that right should be allowed non-Jews to live where they chose. It DOES mean the concerted effort of one group, in this case, Jews, to usurp the rights of others and claim the city belongs exclusively to them in a way it does not to others. It does mean a mind set which says what is mine is mine and what is yours is mine and we will take it. It means a coveteousnous that desires to lay whole to everything in Jerusalem and deny the history and sentiment others have for Jerusalem. That is what Erekat is referring to and he is right.

The name, Jerusalem derives from Hebrew and has been so for more than three thousand years. For milennia the entire world (except the Johnny-come-lately Muslims) have recognized and called it by its Hebrew name. Enough said.

Palestinians and Israelis need to co-exist together. If not there will be war. With war death. Jerusalem has suffered from past mistakes. We need Jerusalem and so do the Palestinians. Learn to share with your neighbour. Thanks

Steve, Jerusalem is not the capital of Israel according to almost all countries in the world. Get your facts straight before spouting nonsense. Tareq

I argee with Scrolls. The world is tried of them crying their eyes out and playing innocent. Palestine needs to grow up and start thinking about what it will need to be a state.

This whole thing is completely absurd and incomprehensible! This is Jewish Land, period: history proves it, archeology proves it, carbon testing proves it: there were NO palestinians around 2,800 years ago but plenty of Jews. The muslims have Mecca and Medina...doesn't that suffice? No, they need to take the Jews holiest site and desecrate it and physically attack the Jews when they visit. I say, kick all of the palestinians out of Jerusalem...completely. Give them the boot, take back the Temple Mount, take down that eye-sore of a mosque and finally make a stand. This is a national decision that has nothing to do with the international community: its none of their business. Drive the palestinians out of ALL of Jerusalem and let them continue squatting in Gaza and parts of the West Bank. Enough is Enough. We all know thats what its going to come to anyhow. Why wait?

We are commanded to give G-D and His WORD no rest until He makes Jerusalem a praise in all the earth . HALLEYAH . Be mightily encouraged , be strong , know that G-D watches over His WORD to fulfill it to the letter . A time is approaching when the Jewish Messiah will rule and reign over all the earth from His eternal Jewish Capital Jerusalem . The destiny of the Jewish people is to rule and reign as priests and kings with Him . HALLELYAH .

They go beserk just to seek attention meanwhile peaceful Tibetans and Africans are deprived of this much needed attention. hope that answers your question :-)

in Afghanistan the Taliban destroy ancient Bhudda carvings on a mountainside, in Saudi Arabia non Muslims are forbidden to practice their religion,let alone enter Mecca, In Philipines Abusayaf want to kill ppl without knowing why when the Filipinos are more than happy to give them rights, and the world accepts such ghastly behaviour and then calls Israel an Apartheid state??? Infact did it ever occur to anyone why the Druze despise the other Arabs and feel closer to Israeli Jews???

let them try, thats why the security,no wait politicaly correct lefties call the apartheid wall is there in the first place. Israel has preserved those mosques and many others, the Arabs have burned down tombs of patriarchs in Shechem and many other places, so if they behave like violent thugs is the world supposed to feel sorry for them while ppl like Tibetans whom really endured suffering are ignored completley in addition to darfurians whom were let in by Israel for safety while Muslim Arabs try to kill them???

Haaretz falsely states that peace talks remain stalled "over Israel's refusal to halt settlemeent construction". Peace talks are stalled over the Palestinian's obstructionist policies and attempts to once again find every opportunity not to make peace.

so tell me mr holmes Israel allows mosques,churches,Druze place of worship,Bahai gardens??? The Islamists on the otherhand destroy anything not Islamic and replace it with their own claims go on, suck up to the Arabs for oil.

Since Muslims believe Prophet David (pbuh) and the Jews who accepted him at the time are their fellow Muslims; the Muslim conquest of Jerusalem in the 7th century was actually a liberation of the holy city from the Roman usurpers to restore Muslim rule. Afterwards, the Jews have broken their covenant with God in many ways, therefore, they are not considered Muslims anymore, hence their occupation of Jerusalem nowadays is considered another usurpation of Muslim rule that needs to be restored again. These are the true Muslim beliefs. History ought to teach some to adapt to this fact or face the consequences.

That theft will be undone, no matter how long it takes.

"terrorist Arabs!" like Jews who "rule" the banking system? blatant anti-arab bull.

and Palestinians are from P A L E S T I N E. ZIONISTS (not Jews) are the Thirteen Tribe from Russia.

Why should we take this nonsence? Since when Jerusalem hasnt been jewish? Why arabs are alowed to pray on our holysite while for us it is forbidden? Why is it forbidden for us jews to live in our capital Jerusalem? It is like saying when a Dutch christian person moves to a marocan neigbourhood in Amsterdam, calling it the "christianising of amsterdam"

So, "fanatic" Jews are those who want to be "near the Mosque compound" and open-minded and free-thinking "palestinian doves" those who want to throw stones and kill them. Very interesting definitions... Very much in line with the democratic spirit of Islam and peace loving behavior of Arabs... Would be interesting to know the source of your "eye-opening" discovery that "Jews never bothered with the area". May be you also remind us why "Jews never prayed near the site and only started demanding access after the arrival of the British in 1918"? Or maybe they were not allowed to do so by "fair-minded" and "just" Moslem authorities under the penalty of death? And, of course, the whole pre-Islamic history of Jerusalem (oh, sorry, al-Quds) is just a fiction and "Zionist narrative", including Roman Emperors who all were just Zionist agents and Islam-bashers. Thank you "palestinian" who adapted Roman designation of identity and stole the Jewish history and inheritance.

If most of you keep feeling that way there will never be peace in your region. I guess you're ready to accept that. BTW only Israel recognized Jerusalem as its capital. The UN doesn't the US doesn't the EU doesn't nor any other government for that matter. I know you don't care hopefully only you will have to live with the consequences.

No longer can you spit on a Jew and he will tell you it's raining !! For the last 2000 years this is how it was, but now we have Israel back with it's eternal capital Jerusalem. Arabs clearly dont want to share anything with us, so let them riot and destroy their own - and for this bad attitude we must continue to build and consolodate.

You must pay for Israeli 'crimes' in Palestine. They know you have two passports!

The world should recognize the writing on the wall. The days of the Palestinian and Israeli Arabs are numbered. They have been judged and found wanting. Or do they not have a mina, sheckel or half-mina? Does it matter if they are not rich or are simply beyond hope? The Arab population of Israel, and especially Judea, Samaria and Jerusalem has no future. They should accept that they will be refugees, exiles, and the world should act to help them in leaving their homes and moving to where they will not be persecuted. The last hope of the Palestinian nation was Obama, and he has been weighed upon history's scales and found to be wanting. Netanyahu has won, there will be no Palestinian state and no need to argue over the 'Judaizing' of Jerusalem. It will be racially purified and Arabs will no longer be a problem, in Israel or Jerusalem. This is the cost of peace.

in (British Mandate Palestine, their booklets for visitors to Al-Haram Al-Sharif,(in the libraries of major Theology schools), and from Jewish travellers in the middle ages, starting with Benjamin of Tudela, Spain, (1165-73, his travel times). The Jews, both local to Jerusalem and international visitors prayed at the Western Wall of their Temple. While people like you are still trying to prey on Jews. But your time would be up and sooner than you think. Ref: Adler, Jewish Travellers in the iddle Ages", by Dover No. 0-486-25397-x USD 10.95 (a basement bargain book)

... seeing as it was the Jordanians that expelled the Old City's Jews in 1949, and refused to allow Jewish visits to the Western Wall during the 20 years it controlled the site, in explicit violation of the 1949 Armistice agreements.

the site of Prophet Samuel's (a.k.a "Nebi Samwil") Ramah village town in ancient Israel times.

Israel should tell the world who the temple belongs to. Disgraceful cowardliness.

Talking about Judaization of Jerusalem is like talking about Germanification of Berlin. It was a bad idea to try 70 years ago. It is no better an idea now.

Jerusalem has been many things, and nothing is eternal. Currently Jerusalem is Jewish only bc Israel is armed to the teeth and backed by the even more armed U.S. Who knows what the next century will bring? One thing for certain- You & I will be dead.

I am beginning to once again question if we Jews will ever be able to make peace with these people.-Jane I do not care if you can Jews or cannot. We American can!

East Jerusalemites Should undergo a UN referedum on whether they wish to remain occupied and part of Israel or be independent, part of Palestine.

The religious Jews in the Diaspora confuse the old city with Arab Jerusalem. I wish someone in Israel would explicitly talk about the one, or both, with some accuracy. Otherwise,the wild ones here will continue to freak out. And Israel will be stuck with incorporating another 300,000 Palestinians. And all the while, these religious people will try to convince us that there is no demographic threat to a Jewish majority. This kind of loose talk and fuzzy thinking makes big trouble.

So what's your point? Should you leave Dallas because Texas belongs to the MEXICANS?

Don't drag this nation into your own sick obsessions - if you are so obsessed with Jerusalem and Israel why then chose to live in the Christian west? US Jews care more about Israel than the US - they should be held suspect over all their actions and should be banned from serving public office because of their duel loyalties.

either Holy or it is not Holy. Third Holiest Place is an Israeli Propaganda. Besides, to Moslem Palestinians Jerusalem, as a Capital, is as holy to their Nationalism as Jerusalem and Mecca are for their religion.

Everything you ever wanted to know about the Arab-Israeli conflict is found in the Arab's laughingly absurd "objections" to the 'Judaizing' of Jerusalem.

In fact I believe that most of them are peaceful. It's the outside agitators, whether jihadists, western anti-semites or Arab states that are inciting against peace so that Israel will be eliminated. Once that happens, they want us to be at their mercy again. That's the plan.

This story really bugs me... These scumbag arabs are thowing rocks and rioting on the temple mount. When will the Jewish sensibility kick in and remove these pests from the holiest spot in the Jewish religion. The Imams are agitating, and the PA is encouraging these riots which desecrate the holiness of the site. If I had my way I would remove their lifeforce from them and they would die painful deaths. At least they should be beaten and clobbered with pipes till dead. My heart is heavy and I am upset because the Jewish people are too lame to stand up for righteousness. In our own land these haters are trying to steal from us and kill us. There must be action against this... If only all the Jews could stand together and remove the stain called Islam from the holy city of Jerusalem. They are fighting hard against us and we are too weak to even respond. We have fallen far and I am ashamed...

of "blame the Jews" it certainly looks like the thirties all over again. Of course we all knew that day will come again and again.

If Jerusalem is holy land and cannot be possessed does that mean that Mt Sinai should also be international land since G-D told Moses that he was standing on holy ground when Moses saw the burning bush? What about Mecca or Vatican City? Both are claimed to be holy land. Not to mention land in India, Iran, and Utah. All sites of revered temples so holy land. The obvious distinction which you fail to make is that this is JEWISH holy land so you feel some right to act compromisingly in your willingness to pass it off to such an impartial judge as the UN, I presume.

Using the same sort of wordplay, Hitler was only trying to Germanify Berlin on Kristallnacht. The truth is, the effort is to de-Palestinianise Jerusalem.

do you think that maybe the reason why you say the Jews never prayed at the 'site' has something to do with why you say they "demanded" access once the British took control of the area?

See http://www.mideastweb.org/palpop.htmnain Dove, the facts are against you. This is a table from the above website. You can check the quality of the website yourself. Table 10 - Population of Jerusalem until 1945 Year Total Muslim Jewish Christian % Jews 1844 1 15,510 5,000 7,120 3,390 45.9 1876 2 25,030 7,560 12,000 5,470 47.9 1896 2 45,420 8,560 28,112 8,748 61.9 1922 3 52,081 13,411 33,971 4,699 65.2 1931 3 90,451 19,894 51,222 19,335 56.6 1945 4 164,330 33,680 99,320 31,330 60.4 1. This figure is quoted widely on the Web and is apparently the Ottoman census figure. It is given for example here. 2. John Oesterreicher and Anne Sinai, eds., Jerusalem, (NY: John Day, 1974), p. 1 3. British Mandate Census of 1922 and 1931 4. Anglo American Survey, 1945 There are many Jews who are perfectly happy to leave the Temple Mount to Palastinains, but claiming the Jewish connection to Jerusalem is a trumped up is just perverse and dumb.

Actually Jerusalem and all of Israel, belongs to the United States. We're the ones who bought it and have paid billions for it over the past 60 years. We're the ones who got the original borders through the UN. Israel has done nothing but shoot rock throwers with tanks that the U.S. provided. I think the US should evict the Israelis and turn Jerusalem into another Las Vegas. At least then it would serve some purpose.

Funny I don't think Jerusalem is mentioned in the koran and if so maybe only in passing. Jews have been praying towards Jerusalem forever and that is quite a long time. Throughout the ages it has always been "Next year in Jerusalem"...it is our holy city..the city of David. Jesus prayed in Jerusalem at the Holy Temple...the archaeological digs prove Jewish presence in the area for thousands of years. Your insulting rant falls on deaf ears because you are the propagandist...mohammed flew off the rock in the seventh century....Jesus prayed in Jerusalem seven hundred years before. Paris might be French...but one fact is a certainty Jerusalem's ties to the Jews is indestructible.. you can have mecca and medina and your bigotry but Jerusalem is Jewish and is the capitol of Israel whether you like it or not. You can bring the subject up to G-d if you need clarification,that is if you ever reach heaven.

The UN resolution 194 that outlined the partition of Palestine, set out that Jerusalem was to be a 'corpus separatum', an international city that should be administered by an international body, as being sacred to all three religions. The wars of 1948 and 1967 saw the Israeli government taking over whole swathes of what were Arab areas - Katamon, Mamilla, Bak'aa, and then the whole of East Jerusalem, which is considered illegally annexed under international law.. The Knesset is built on appropriated Palestinian land, as are most of the settlements of East Jerusalem. Even the Jewish Quarter was one-fifth of the present size. Now even solid Palestinian areas like Silwan, Sheikh Jarrah, Ras El Amud are being 'judaized' by extreme religious settlers - denying what should be part of a Palestinian state. Even areas like E1 and Maaleh Adumim are built on Palestinian owned land. That is the real truth - so for a peace with justice, Israel must withdraw its settlers from all the above.

when will people like John get their history books out........there never has been a Palestinian land..................the territory in question is disputed not occupied.....because of a defensive war fought and won by Israel against Arab countries surrounding them.............your view is one of the biggest lies on the planet kept alive by Arab oil..........................and evidently fools like you

Their putting their two-penneth in will just serve to antaganise matters. The world knows very well where the loyalties of the US Jews lie.

What makes you think that Jerusalem is Israel's capital? Not according to the only legal and official document establishing the state of Israel, the UNGA Resolution 181. Religion and tradition are not legally binding. It's time to stop this histeria. I know you want it, but that's not good enough. American Indians want the American continent back, too.

They say there was no Temple. Is that supposed to be a sick joke? Do these Kohanim not exist? Is this ancient language is a falsification? Was the Wall built there as a buttress to nothing? Guess what: our enemies are dangerous, and something must be done about the most dangerous among them.

The fact of the matter is that the religion of 1 billion Christians is based on the Jewish pressence in Israel and Jerusalem for over a thousand years before Jesus. Christians won't stand for the idea that "Jerusalem was never Jewish". Israel should highlight the Christian consequences of the Arab propoganda if it left unchecked.

"The Palestinians, determined to deny Jewish history and our connection to our eternal capital of Jerusalem....", says Nathan Diament with the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America. Two points: 1)I question Mr. Diament's personal "connection" to the eternal city, both from a racial and religious standpoint. Racially, he is surely Ashkenazik, not Hebrew. Religiously, he is surely a Talmudite, not an Israelite. 2) Most members of the Palestinian Arab population, in all likelihood, have a greater "connection" to the Holy Land both religiously and racially than does Mr Diament. If push ever came to shove, and Mr. Diament, along with his "Orthodox" correligionists, were finally outed and forced to reveal his family tree and his own alleged "Jewish history," he'd drop that "our connection" baloney pretty quickly, I imagine.

This is our land. The land of Israel. The land of the Jews forever and ever. No Arab, or anyone else, is going to tell the Jews anymore to leave their land. If they do not want the Jews to live in Jerusalem; I say, what is good for the goose is good for the gander, and the Arabs can remove themselves from the Jewish State.

1) Temple Mount is the most sacred site in the world for jews it is the site of the 2 Temples. For muslims its a relatively new idea it being a holy place to them & not mentioned in the Koran 2) Until 1948 jews were the majority in all Jerusalem & th eeast was occupied by jews. Arabs came after the jews were expelled by Jordan & the city divided 3) Up until 1967 jews were barred from Temple Mount by the muslim occupiers. Until 1967 they were even barred from praying at the Western Wall. Under the Turks jews were allowed to gather in small numbers but they were not allowed to even bring benches to sit on as they prayed or blow the shofar When the British took over they were a little more liberal but they were not allowed to blow the shofar on holy days. Once the jews put up a curtain to seperate men & women it caused an uprising when the British police saw it & demanded its removal & the jews refused 1948-1967 Jordan ddn' let jews visit the wall but arabs urinate agaist it legally.

...also hijacked Israel and jerusalem. Long before the existence of islam there was judaism in Israel and jerusalem. the muslims conquered a land from which the romans had expelled the jews. The receivers of stolen property cannot have more claim than the original owners. The arabs colonised africa, the mideast and europe and their descendants still rule many of those areas. The africans expelled the european colonisers from africa and nobody complained. It is time the arab colonisers were sent back to arabia(saudi) who continues to finance terror.

When Arabs start talking about there being too many Jews in Jerusalem or similar talk, it's time to do the opposite. De-Arabize the Jewish State of Israel. All the Arabs want is for Jews to be underlings to them as in previous history. So, the only thing to do is fight the Arab disease by removing them from the Jewish state. Raise the flag of Israel on the Temple Mount. Continue to strengthen the Jewish state as that is the only thing the world respects.

If true, the Jews probably stayed away from the Temple Mount for centuries out of fear of decapitation! The Jews have been disproportionately kind to the Muslims since taking control of Jerusalem. They could have restricted access to the Mosque the way the Arabs restricted access the Western Wall to Jews. And if you think the Jewish historical link to Jerusalem is a fraud, read Roman History. There you'll find quite convincing accounts of the Jewish-Roman wars. Also look up the Arch of Titus.

I hope judge Goldstone understands that it is easy to start a process of unrest in the middle east, but it is hard to control the dynamics of it. His report may have just started to take its toll!

there is no denying the fact that there are Jewish, Muslim and Christian holy sites in Jerusalem, Thus, making it Impossible to claim it as purely Jewish. best way to solve this is to make it as a separate entity, the state of Jerusalem.

The PA is backed by the West?! Natasha Mozgavaya, are you sure about that? The only people in the West who back the PA are the Israel-hating liberals and the so-called human rights organizations. I don't know of any western government that supports the PA.

I am ammazed at the level of world wide spread of ignorance you Israeli lovers bask in. You think you are the only people on earth and all owe you allegance? Having grown up in Jerusalem, I can assure you there was nothing Jewish over there except one small neighbourhood.Not even the wall is Jewish. I can see why you claim the city is yours. You have no other place to claim. Good luck cousins.

The days of ethnic tribalism are over in this age. Jerusalem is an international city..not a sectarian backwater.

For the adherents of Shiite Islam including my fellow Iranians, the third, fourth and fifth holiest sites are in Iraq, followed by the sixth and seventh holiest sites in Iran and the eight one in Syria. The Sunni Mulims do not have holy sites outside of Arabia. All mosques to them are equal.

I'm wondering if Nathan Diament, director of public policy for the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America is correct when he speaks for both Israelis and U.S. Jews? First of all, we already have Jerusalem back now as our capital of the Jewish state. So the statement, "Next Year in Jerusalem" has been fulfilled long ago as it is. A poll published Oct.4, 2009 indicated 53% Israelis and 56% Palestinians support the Geneva Initiative agreement with each side governing its holy sites. Also from the Truman Institute at Hebrew University, 69% of U.S. Jews polled in March 2009 affirmed that Israel should negotiate with a joint Fatah-Hamas government. And in this study, 76% support a two-state, final status deal based on lines of Camp David 2000. Holy sites in Jerusalem should be respected by everyone and no reason for hostilities to persist.

The brash takeover of Jerusalem, and the ongoing efforts to exclude the Pals and make them feel utterly miserable and unwanted, particularly since the advent of the present government, is much in evidence, especially around the Old City. The Pals should be commended for their relative tolerance thus far. They are stunned and vanquished by the pace of the current takeover.

Justification for seizing and occupying peoples' homes and lands based on a two-thousand-year-old claim of ownership of a state that never existed is INSANE. Forgetting the Turkish Empire is also DELUSIONAL.

check the map history and geograhy aren't elective courses anymore even in wild Texas

the actual spelling is 'Al Quds'

Judaization of Jerusalem is like cursing in the church. Since biblical time the city was the centerpoint of the Jews. I wish the Palestinians had leaders for the benefit of their civilians and start building a succesful society. Instead they are using the rethoric of Islam to demonize the Jewish people by even denying the Temple ever stood om the Temple Mount. But their prophet Mohammed has never been in Jerusalem. And in the Quran the name Jerusalem is never mentioned. We continue to pray for the Peace of Jerusalem, Psalm 122. Shalom from Holland

Jerusalem has been Israel's capital for thousands of years. The Temple Mount was the site of both Temples despite Arab lies that there has never been a synagogue there. Ironic that we just observed Yom Kippur the only day when the Kohen Gadol would enter the Holy of Holies, yes, on the Temple Mount.

If an Arab leader does something decent, it's dirty Israel that is behind it. If he does something vile, he didn't have another way and it's of course Israel's fault too. Time to change your hard disc if you can.

it sure aint in Europe fellow. Get used to the idea that all Israelis are orientals.

Yes, the dare. Iran dares too. The Arab world dares to spew anti-Semitic things that would raise your hair. But it doesn't end there. Sweden (with the notable exception of its ambassador to Israel) doesn't withdraw their suppoer for Aftonbaldet's defamation that IDF soldiers "plunder" Palestinian organs. Norway makes an academic Israel-bashing fest in one of its universities. The president of Honduras talks about Israeli mercenaries torturing him. And it goes on, and on, and on, like in the 1930's but world-wide. I have no idea if we can make peace with Arabs, but I do know that the current anti-Semitism is fatter than everything we could even imagine just a few years ago.

It is occupied by Israel.It is not Israeli sovereign territory --ergo it is not up for Israelis to Arabise it or Judaise it. Just when I thought you had moved away from the right a little bit you make a statement such as "we can never make peace with people like that". It is their land---not yours.It was illegally annexed as in UN res 476 which not even the USA would veto.That is why they and the rest of the planet will not place their embassies anywhere in Jerusalem.Even that is in question, although I accept all but East Jerusalem being Israeli.

The fact that they use the Jewish word for the city - Yerushalayim - rather than the Muslim and Arabic "Al-Quds", says it all. Kind of like saying "Arab East Al-Quds" when they claim ownership of the city. Everybody knows Jerusalem is a Jewish/Hebrew word, and the Arabs are late-comers and usurpers. This kind of idiocy will gain no traction in the U.S., and a campaign against "Judaizing Jerusalem" is 100% certain to be blocked by our anti-hate crime laws. Jerusalem is a Jewish city, and the Muslims have got to rid themselves of the notion that every place where Mohammed stopped to blow his nose becomes a Moslem holy place, to the total exclusion of other religions that were there first. You see this kind of crap in the conversion of churches to mosques in the Arab world, building mosques on top of Hindu temple sites in India, etc. These "claims" first for "sharing", then for total control, are how they expand and dominate other religions whereever they encounter them. This must end.

I agree with you completely. Except this last point: Current anti-Semites need a few fig leaves. So there will always be a few Neturei Karta idiots, or some self-hating leftist liberal Jew ready to turn reality unside down, bash Israel, and be willing to go even to Tehran. Those will be the Jewish scared cows the anti-Semites will spare from criticism, and use as their fig leaves.

Israel gives the Palestinians enormous freedom to control the Temple Mount and to worship there in peace, even though The Temple Mount is intimately connected with Judaism. In return the Palestinians should not get offended by some "Jewish rituals".

And Jerusalem is Jewish, unless the Caananites put in a prior claim... oh wait! I read that the muslims claim also to be Caananites. Convenient. Also Philistines (Greek). Next they will say Greece is occupied Arab land too, like Spain. Where does it end?

Anti-semitism is reason number 1 Not being able to Islamize it instead is reason Number 2

....but when it comes to Israels policies in and around Jerusalem over the past couple of years/ decades, it comes pretty close to the truth indeed. Sorry guys, but racism and ethnic cleansing are always ugly, even if they are commited in a rather soft Israeli (Jewish) version....

Anti-Semitism no longer has the same meaning as when used in WW11. Zionists have now used the word to control any criticism against Israel for so long that the word has lost its impact. I don't think anyone in the world can make peace with you people. The sooner Israel dissolves as "the Jewish State", and it will because of the inhumane policies towards not just its neighbours but all other western countries as well, the sooner there will be peace in the Middle East. The sooner the American people wake up to how much Israel is costing them while they suffer with homelessness, unemployment, and a gov who spends their tax money on foreigners, the sooner we get peace, but god help you lot!

how about israel begin to act like an occupier and opresser and dont let any arabs to the temple mount?? oh my goooooooood whole world would be bashing jews!!! but nooo some jews prayin there is problem u know jews has no right at all they cant pray in their own land!!! the only apartheid made in this land is: against the jews! the state is givin more rights to pals than jews this is unacceptable!! why can an arab origin citizen of isr can enter temple mount but a jew cant?? is there a place in isr that an arab cant enter??? isr should stop apartheid and let jews pray on the temple mount like arabs!!!! STOP THE APARTHEID REGIME

you can try to deny that the temple stood there in the 1st place as well as the jewish history in this land going back 2000 years before the rise of islam, but it won't hold against any serious academic scrutiny anywhere. just remember that the jews were dispersed out of jerusalem against their own will post year 70 C.E. at the time the city was the "center of their universe", at least as much as mekka has been for muslims. the longing & expectation to one day return was a live thing rooted in something solid & real. there's no fabrication. ask the greek about their connection to ancient greece & athens or the italians about rome (which isn't that ancient in comparison) & try to deny them any of it. whoever lived in paris before the french made it into what it is, if "they" existed at all, aren't around making any claims, so your allegory isn't worth much. not everybody on the jewish side denies you your part of the claim in jerusalem. but it's you guys who are "newcomers".

Arabization of Ramallah. They should stop immediately. They also should evacuate Arab settlers from ancient capital of Hebron.

What other people other than the Jewish people have ever claimed Jerusalem as their single cultural, spiritual, and political capital? What other people other than Jews, have accomplished this three times in history. This is not to deny Arab/Pales history or basic rights, but Arab/Pales will have to accommodate the Jewish reality in Jerusalem, and the Jews will also have to respect the Arab/Pales reality. But this should not include "East" Jerusalem as the capital of a Palestinian state.

Jerusalem was never a Jewish city, the so called Jewish link to the city is a modern day invention to justify the occupation of the land by the Zionists. The handful of Jews or so who had lived in the old city of Jerusalem since the Arab conquest in the 7th century A.D never bothered with the area until the British Mandate in 1918. Previous generations of Jews who visited or resided in the city had never made any attempt at praying near the Mosque. Until the 1920`s, Jews never prayed near the site and only started demanding access after the arrival of the British in 1918 to the part of the wall of the Mosque where the current Western Wall stands. The entire history of a Jewish link to the city is a fabrication. Jerusalem is as Arab as Paris is French.

What right do they have to block one group of people in preference over another? The Palestinians have a right to worship at the mosque and the Jews have no right to deny them, I mean the cheek of it is unbelievable, they are on Arab land and controlling Muslim holy sites. The Israelis are a despicable bunch and they wonder why sympathy for their holocaust is totally absent from many quarters. I, for one, couldn't care less about it.

Temple Mout was built for Temple, not Mosque. Jewish population of Jerusalem majority or plurality, not Arab for at least 200 years until Arabs/British ethnically cleansed it, now back when liberated in 67. Typical Muslim build something on another religions holy site and deny them their history. This is why there is no peace, because Muslims deny history, deny reality, deny facts. Leave the Temple Mount and the Holy of Holies. End the desecration. Israel allowed Muslims to stay on the Temple Mount in peace and instead gets pieces of rock thrown at Jews praying. Leave the Temple Mount. Only peace can be from banning all from Temple Mount. Wakf needs to be removed.

might be because you have brought it unholiness, that you do not like it referred to as "The Holy".

As can plainly be seen from your bigoted post your Muslim claim to the Jewish Temple Mount is not based on anything except conquest. You will NOT conquer Jerusalem again, Israel is here to stay.

The word Jerusalem (in Hebrew Yirushalayim) means city of peace. However, Arabs use the name of the city as a curse against Jews. I was in Jerusalem a few years ago during Sukkot and praying at the Western Wall when we were attacked by Arabs hurling stones from atop the Temple Mount. These were not small pebbles, they were meant to kill, as they could easily because of the height from which they were thrown. Sounds to me as if the Arabs are preparing for a third intifada. Get those checkpoints back up, Bibi

It is not the place to which they pray, is not once mentioned by name in prayers, and it is connected to no mundane events in Muhammad's life. The city never served as capital of a sovereign Muslim state, and it never became a cultural or scholarly center. Little of political import by Muslims was initiated there. Jerusalem appears in the Jewish Bible 669 times and Zion (which usually means Jerusalem, sometimes the Land of Israel) 154 times, or 823 times in all. The Christian Bible mentions Jerusalem 154 times and Zion 7 times.

it leaves one speechless. Will they stop the huj? Too many mussies dominating the medina?

Is certainty that few evangelics for example would like to see Jerusalem under muslim control.

America must be returned to its founding Christian principles based on all the ideals that 100% of its Christian founders based it on.

When your neighbour is bothering you day in day out with noise, filth, scary dogs, threatening your kids and tried to break the windows of your house, you would be stupid not to stand up for yourself. You are allowed to live there, to walk on the pavement, to have kids. He has to behave and not threaten your safety. If he does, you have all reason to retaliate.

Of course, we know how you guys think and work. remember your last sentence because soon you will claim that Paris is an arab city and has been for thousands of years.

You are wrong sir. Palestinians are living in Jerusalem and the W.Bank for more than 2 thousand years,since the Roman expelled jews from that land.

Will zionist jews understand history? or just claim for their childish fairy tales as the right one

Why does the world let Haaretz spread news that is not right. Why does is not state before it publishes the propaganda of Palestinians that the reason for closing Har Habayit was for safty as THEY started throwing stones on thousands of tourist and Jews. THE JEWISH PEOPLE CARE ABOUT ALL HUMANS.

The Palestinian playbook is unchanged since the riots of the 1930's: to incite hatred against the implacably undoubted connection of Jerusalem to Jewish national history. "Judaizing" Jerusalem is like "Judaizing gefilte fish"--it was, is, and inevitably will be... Jewish.

Herzlich You are one of the few sane voices in all this insanity and stupidity.

During the 1947 conflict Jerusalem was overun by the Arabian military. From 1947 till 1967 Jerusalem was closed off to the Jewish people as well as other religions not considered "appropriate". Jordan used Jerusalem as a dumping ground. Jerusalem held NOOOOOOOO meaning for them or other Arab/moslems. It is only in 1967 the Israeli-Jews captued Jerusalem and opened the city to all religions. 3rd holiest place - MY EYE. As a holy place the Arab/moslems left it to rot. They are like little children .They whine that someone else owns the city. Jerusalem today is a flourishing modern city. WHY - BECAUSE the Israelis honor and revere Jerusalem- always.... not just since 1967. Our ancient books prove our Jewish roots. Christian books prove our Jewish roots.

There goes the never ending arguement again. I could easily make the point, that histoically Mohammed never set a foot on the rock in the dome of the rock. What difference would it make? There are a billion muslims believing this, even though it s historical proven to me outright wrong! "Legitimize one injustice with another" (as Hannah Ashrawi, alog with "blaming the victims" keeps repeating) is only acceptable for Palestinians, but not for Jews (meaning the incapabilities of Jews to pray at their hoiest site due to muslim sanction)! Wondering why Muslim clergy is so vehemently opposing archeolical reseach of the site of the Noble Sancturary/Temple Mount? Maybe they might find that the actual Jwish temple was there and has no historical connection to Islam after all! But of course the clergy only is afraid of unholy behaviour of scientists. Jerusalem is is as Arab as Paris is French. Give me a break! Jerusalem was Jewish, long before there was a definition what an Arab is.

It's worked before. Why not do it again! Send religious nuts to teh Temple Mount, accompany them with lots of cops and some Rightist politicians and BINGO: THE THREAT OF PEACE TALKS and SURRENDER OF LAND disappears for another decade! Graet job.

That would be an answer to your Islamic prayers, wouldn't it? One big difference though: Israel learned from prior experiences and the numbers of Israeli civilian fatalities. A new intifada would be a death blow to any potential peace and moves to improve quality of life. So go ahead and pray. You Palestinians NEVER miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

It seems like anti-Semitism in the Arab world is reaching a pinacle of hate and incitement. The fact that they would dare call Jewish building in Israel's capital, Jerusalem - Judaization is simply incredible to hear and to read. I am beginning to once again question if we Jews will ever be able to make peace with these people.

one of the main problems is that most people partaking in the conflict,in one way or the other, are putting the guilt and responsibility unto the Other - away from themselves and their responsibility. Jerusalem is an international city. What is usually referred to as 'holy land' cannot be possessed, especially if the blood of innocent humans is shed on it- or if they are hurt at all. Humans are holy, not the rocks upon which we live and with which we bury each other.

?We plan to eliminate the state of Israel and establish a purely Palestinian state. We will make life unbearable for Jews by psychological warfare and population explosion. . . We Palestinians will take over everything, including all of Jerusalem. . . All the rich Jews who will get compensation will travel to America. . . We of the PLO will now concentrate all our efforts on splitting Israel psychologically into two camps. Within five years we will have six to seven million Arabs living in the West Bank and in Jerusalem. . . I have no use for Jews; they are and remain Jews. We now need all the help we can get from you in our battle for a united Palestine under total Arab-Muslim domination!" Yasser Arafat, January 30, 1996, (Speech) "The Impending Total Collapse of Israel," Stockholm, Sweden

Yerushalayim sounds better than Al Quds :)

Nothing is more Jewish than Jerusalem. And news flash Jerusalem is ISRAEL's capital and religous center not the terrorist Arabs!

The 7th century conquest was merely an "occupation". So we start there. Then we need to deal with why Jews did not pray in heavy numbers at their holiest site. First, of course, they were cast out of the holy land and second those peaceful and tranquil Arabs were and continue to be an insane and dangerous lot. So, Mr. Dove, how long do we have to keep Arabs out of Mount, on which you built your Mosque, just as the Spanish built their churches over Mayan holy sites, before we can say, tssk, tssk, the Arabs haven't prayed there for such a long time.

That's how you know Israel was making progress. The Palestinians are ready to go to war. Seriously this sounds like another intifada is brewing and Israel should be prepared to accept that no matter what they do or don't do they will be blamed. Even the liberal leftist Jews will be blamed.

If what you say is what Israel wanted, it would already have it. What stalling "tactic"? Claiming and developing historically Jewish places from which the Pals and their national entities, Jordan, Syria, etc., have excluded Jews, in order to Islamicize those places, is not a stalling tactic. It is rebuffing the world's most violent and barbaric colonialists whose mana is delusion and hatred.

Everyone knows Jerusalem or City of David is the holiest Jewish city and Captial of Israel. The Palis cared little about it when it was occuppied by Jordan.

Since Jordan was the "occupier" of the West Bank in 1948, the truth is that since 1967 Israel has LIBERATED the West Bank. This truth must be acknowledged and, as Lieberman suggests, the nation must ensure that all residents are Israeli citizens with sworn allegiance. Anti-national behaviour or incitement is grounds for deportation, or else "There's the door". This will end exclusionism since Jews and Christians show a willingness to tolerate other faiths who behave in a civilized manner. Anyone there will have to put their insanity aside an behave like human beings.

Cause a lot of Palestinians are coming over and buy property in West-Jerusalem.

Abbas must have been either duped, blackmailed or bribed by Israel and the US into dropping Goldstone. As a result, Abbas has shown himself to the Pals as America and Israel's creature. The only way he can survive is by demonstrating he is not. Calling for a 3rd Intifada could be his only way out at this stage

No one is going to be fooled by official Israeli hasbara over this. Fanatic Jews should not be allowed any where near the Mosque compound since we all know what they are up to. It`s quite astonishing to read here the many comments by die hard deluded Zionists who keep refering to the Mosque as `mount`. Well, let me tell you something you never read in official Zionist narrative. The handful of Jews or so who had lived in the old city of Jerusalem since the Arab conquest in the 7th century A.D never bothered with the area until the late 16th century. Previous generations of Jews who visited or resided in the city had never made any attempt at praying near the Mosque. Until the 1920`s, Jews never prayed near the site and only started demanding access after the arrival of the British in 1918 to the part of the wall of the Mosque where the current Western Wall stands. The entire history of a Jewish link to the city is a fabrication. Jerusalem is as Arab as Paris is French.

This is one of the most offensive attacks yet; There is no city in G-d's universe that is more Jewish than Jerusalem. Make no mistake about it: The war over Jerusalem is nothing less than the age-old attempt to extinguish the Jewish religion completely. Such words can only be countered with force.

The outcry that would ensue were anybody dare to talk about the Islamization or Christianization of any place would be world-wide. But against Judaism or Jewishness, it doesn't raise a peep.

Why the the Israeli goverment keep faking wanting peace, when instead it wants nothing more than pure domination and control, and the take over of Palestinian land and expulsion of its people. Everyone in the world can see that. These phony stalling tactics will not last forever.

Why don't the Palestinians concentrate on building their own state, with infrastructure, schools, roads, houses instead of adding to their list of things that Israel can do? The world has grown tired of their demands and has passed on to other, more interesting, topics.

Only if you stop Islamization of Mecca and Catholicization of the Vatican.

Talking about Catholization of Rome. Jerusalem is already Jewish, the Eternal and Indivisible Capital of Israel.