Palestinian PM condemns West Bank 'stabbing incident'

"it was given to them by the `owner of ALL land for eternity. Just look in the bible." - yossi But Yossi, it doesn't say this in that other holy book, the Koran. So who is right then?

-it was given to them by the 'owner of ALL land for eternity. -Just look in the bible. ALL other claims are a great waste of time and energy.

It is inadmissible to acquire territory by war...try res UNSC 242. Has been since at least 1945. It is also illegal to unilaterally annex occupied territory.

"Can you tell us about Collective Punishments Australia has done to Native Australians." #158 shlomong I kind of expected such a response, as it is used so frequently. The problem with this, however, is neither I nor anyone else is arguing for collective punishment against Native Australians on this forum or indeed anywhere else. So your point is entirely irrelevant, and seems to confirm my original statement.

was an Israeli soldier doing in Palestine - doesn't the PA have jurisdiction in Palestine?

Khatib was a soldier. He would not have been where he was had he not been doing his duty, enforcing the occupation. That is a soldier's duty sometimes. But it is also an act of war. To deny his death was in the line of duty, i.e., an act of war, dishonors him and his service to his country. He was not killed in a domestic argument or robbery. He was killed in the line of duty, an act of war. Soldiers killed in the line of duty are not murdered. They are killed in action. He was on foreign soil, enforcing his government's policies. KIA is not murder. Stop dishonoring his service by denial.

trusting the Pals.Especially "a brother" in uniform.

Denying and signing checks at the same time. His man admitting on BBC that they were under his command

may need a little updating. Stabbing someone close to the heart from outside a moving vehicle takes a lot of doing, especially as jeeps are quite high of the ground and the windows are not particularly large. Were there any witnesses in the immediate vicinity?

I don't need to prove anything because I told no lies. The historical facts speak for themselves. It was NOT a defensive war by definition because Israel was NOT defending itself. Israel WAS NOT attacked. Are you seriously going to stand on your statement that Nasser expelling Jews was a legitimate reason to start a war? Pretty weak argument. But then again, we all know it wasn't the real reason anyway. The real reason was to grab the West Bank, Gaza and the Sinai.

"Israel withdrew from it`s border with the Gaza strip." It withdrew to an ARMISTICE line, not it's SOVEREIGN territory. Israel has never legally annexed ANY territory since it declared it's Internationally acknowledged Sovereign Boundaries. "Legal to acquire territory by war if in self-defense." It is inadmissible to ACQUIRE territory by war. (UNSC resolutions) One can reclaim one's SOVEREIGN territory by war. Schwebel/Elihu Lauterpacht "Illegal to be a sucker to spurious (at best) arguments." It isn't illegal, it's stupid to be ill informed as you are and try to argue with a well informed person. "Jordan then attacked in Jerusalem. Only then did Israel attack Jordan" Jerusalem was not and still is not Israeli Sovereign territory, it is still a part of the Palestinian territories (Israel Declared it's boundaries, the UN did not implement it's part of res 181, the Palestinians could not, because Israel controlled part of their territories by May '48)

Well it seems that the murderer was simply "fed up with life" and decided to do something about it Ihow does killing another human being solve that?). SOmething like the case of some Palestinian woman who decided to stab Israelis so that they can spend their time in Israeli jails rather than endure their situations at home. Go figure!

A minority of Israeli Arabs serve in the IDF and those who do are resented - especially by those using the checkpoints where they are accosted by Arabs in IDF uniforms.

why are you plaming israel for this is realy amazing with what happening in the world.israel kill palastinen it make noise all over the world palastinien and hamas kill isaeli not only it does not mantion israel get blamb for it. it gets old alredy

And by the way - Tapuah is in the West Bank - what is the IDF doing there anyhow?

SDHD: "Egypt struck the first blow by closing the Straights of Tirhan to Israeli shipping," There weren't any Israeli ships plying the Eilat route; a fact that Nasser well knew but you, apparently, still do not. Now you do.... SDHD: "amassing troops on the border" Errr, SDHD, he is ALLOWED to mass his troops anywhere he likes on his own soil; it is one of the perks of sovereignty. SDHD: "dismissing UN peacekeepers" !!!!! UN peacekeepers can ONLY deploy at the request of the host country, and when that request is revoked then they have to leave. Nasser's actions therefore did not amount to "stiking a blow" against anybody. SDHD: "declaring that they would destroy Israel over the airwaves" Oooooowwww! Sticks and stones! I'll note that Lieberman threatened Assad just last week, so I guess Syria is now entitled to launch a sneak attack.... SDHD: "Jordan did, in fact, launch rockets into Israel, Einstein." An classic example of "casus foederis".

I really think you should see about that dyslexia. I never once mentioned Afghanistan. And while two of my kids were in occupied IRAQ, both were not boys. You presume & assume way too much. Iraq was the US' "preemptive defensive war of choice, not necessity." We had some in the US who were deluded into thinking we could stay in Iraq 100 years or more. They were wrong. We no longer acquire territory by conquest since we helped outlaw the practice, just before modern Israel was created. We gave up the practice pretty much after we stole the Philippines from Spain. We still periodically have to relearn the lessons - occupations aren't free for either side. As to why the US attacked Afghanistan: On September 11, 2001, the US was attacked by some people who had connections with a Saudi living in Afghanistan. The Afghan government of the time wouldn't turn him over to us after our President asked. So we destroyed their gov. We broke it so we had to fix it.

"Egypt struck the first blow by closing the Straights of Tirhan to Israeli shipping" Under international law, sovereignty extends 12 nautical miles from your shore. Seeing as the Straights of Tirhan are only 8 miles wide, Egypt has the right to block whoever they want from their territory. ", amassing troops on the border, " Since when is positioning troops within your own border an attack? "dismissing UN peacekeepers," is dismissing them worse then bombing them like Israel did in Gaza? "and declaring that they would destroy Israel over the airwaves." if rhetoric was enough of a reason to start a war, every country in the world would be fighting israel "Negotiations didn`t work, and it was clear war was imminent." Your points are nonsense. Israel attacked Egypt first and bombed their planes while they sat idle at their airports. The only question is, do you believe the nonsense you post or are you lying even to yourself?

Plenty to back what I've said, from the Knesset, Israeli Govt, Jewish Virtual Library, UN, UNSC, Yale Law. It is illegal to acquire territory by war, defensive or aggressive. Example - res 242 /it is inadmissible to acquire territory by war/ Only one's own Sovereign territory may be RE-gained through war. Elihu Lauterpacht / Stephen M. Schwebel /The state of the law has been correctly summarized by Elihu Lauterpacht, who points out that territorial change cannot properly take place as a result of the unlawful use of force. But to omit the word "unlawful" is to change the substantive content of the rule and to turn an important safeguard of legal principle into an aggressor's charter. For if force can never be used to effect lawful territory change, then, if territory has once changed hands as a result of the unlawful use of force, the illegitimacy of the position thus established is sterilized by the prohibition upon the use of force to restore the lawful sovereign. This cannot be regarded as reasonable or correct/

"Jordan DID NOT attack Israel. " Except, it DID. "Here are the historical facts. Israel struck the first blow in the 6 Day War by attacking Egypt. That`s right." Egypt struck the first blow by closing the Straights of Tirhan to Israeli shipping, amassing troops on the border, dismissing UN peacekeepers, and declaring that they would destroy Israel over the airwaves. Negotiations didn't work, and it was clear war was imminent. Jordan did, in fact, launch rockets into Israel, Einstein.

"israeli right wing wrong policy is the cause of all troubles in Gaza and W.Bank." Arab intolerance of Jews living the region is the cause of all the trouble in Gaza and the West Bank since 1920.

'"[Benjamin] Netanyahu is busy with removing roadblocks and allowing terrorists to move freely, and the consequences are quick to follow," Ben Ari said.' Palestinian policemen get killed all the time by Israeli soldiers, why is it that if one single time it happens the other way around, he is a terrorist? It laughable that you label everyone who attacks you a terrorist, when you attack others with impunity. You are using the military to occupy and suppress an entire people. Attacks on your military soldiers by these militarily oppressed people are not acts of terrorism.

Tony "But you know, israel consider itself above all International Laws" but you Know the Arab League considers itself above all UN resolutions , Geneva Convention and International Law when they started war on Israel in 1948,56,67,73,80s,90s and 2000nds

Two wrongs do not make a right do not justfiy other peoples crimes because Settlers do crimes

Warren Can you tell us about Collective Punishments Australia has done to Native Australians. Lets start with 1) stolen Generation 2) Laws Bannning aborigines from buying alcohol at certain times 3) Different laws about how Police can arrest aborigines etc

Joe you said "The security Israeli`s seek is not going to be found outside the 67 line" Well funnily enough before 67 Israel didn't have security either. I don't believe that just because Israel withdraws to the pre-67 borders the fighting will stop. Before 67 they had their land, Israel didn't control Gaza, West Bank and not even the old city of Jerusalem yet the Arab countries around Israel still did not want her there, no matter what borders she had. The question we must is, what do they really want?

Cassie, you need to read the article more carefully. In the first paragraph it says "A Palestinian police officer stabbed an Israeli defence Soldier." In the second paragraph it says "He was stabbed to death by Mahmoud al-Khatib, a member of the Palestinian security forces on the West Bank." You were right, all has been revealed in time, you just didn't read it.

YOu don't even live in Israel. You are just another North American armchair racist hawk who loves war and violence. Your ilk comes a dime a dozen and the world hates you.

is the only way people get land. Read history. The UN made it "illegal" to change borders after the Allies changed all sorts of borders during and after WW2. What about Bosnia? Smaller now, thanks to Croatia and Serbia. Why are lines drawn in 1918 by British and French diplomats sacred?

Is this enough to convince Israel that peace is the only option viable, and not military confrontation.Israel will never realise peace and security until it gives up the land it's trying to make its own.

put up something other than your opinion. "Legal to acquire territory by war if in self-defense" It is legal to re-acquire SOVEREIGN territory in war. One example of many - Res 242 //It is inadmissible to acquire territory by war/force// Gaza 2005 // Israel withdrew to an armistice line, NOT a Sovereign Israeli boundary. Israel declared it's territories May 14th 1948, was recognized, despite Arab objections. It has never legally annexed any territory outside it's Sovereign boundaries. Facts are not Hasbara BS.

druze and jews and arabs and defend each other as such, where an attack on one person, is taken as an attack on all. May there one day be peace in the middle east. We all bleed blood and eventually are buried in the same earth.

whats the arabic name for West Bank? for Galile it Jelile or Celile i guess. there re biblical and kuran names for regions in Israel. biblical name for those two regions in West bank Is Judea and Samaria. nothing wrong with it i thing if u look at the kuran u ll see ancient names for there too. u can call it that way. like jews call Jerusalem yerushalayim ha kodeş and arabs: Ursalem al Kuds whats the big deal u prefere callin it in a totally foreign language to ME like english (Westbank) ur choice. by the way it means west side of jordan river. better callin it in one of the original names arabic or hebrew but thats my opinion...

R: "Murder needs to be treated as the most serious crime. Other countries have a death penalty for such offenses." So does Geneva Convention IV, Realist. The IDF now needs to apply the penal provisions on GCIV to this perp. Nothing more. Nothing less. There is no need for the IDF to take this matter BEYOND that of a murder case because, on the facts so far, that is all this is.

Some of you still use the term "west bank" to refer to Judea and Samaria. These places will always belong to Israel. If arabs want peace like they say, then they should stop attacking the Jews. Look how many lives Israel saved in Haiti. We are realy proud of Israel for help even pals babies and their mothers.

Y: "Treat it as a murder case. Nothing more. Condolences." Indeed. GCIV has provision for the punishment of acts of violence against the occupying power. Use that to punish the perp. That's ALL that is required. That's ALL that should be done. Because if you do that then *justice* is served. Anything more will be merely "collective punishment", and will simply make a bad situation worse.

Given Fayyad's western upbringing and career experience at the IMF I would find it very difficult to believe that his condemnation is not sincere. He may not have the required charisma to bring the necessary reforms in Palestinian society (I hope I am wrong) but he has excellent intentions and Israel should bolster him. While Fayyad wrote his PhD dissertation on central banking measurers, Abbas wrote his on Zionist cooperation with the Nazis. It is clearly a no-brainer who we should support.

RM: "This type of incident by a Palestinian policeman, clearly motivated by purest hatred , provides us with a very good insight into what any future 'Palestinian state' might be like." What, there are *still* going to be IDF soldiers inside that "future Palestinian state"? So remind me again how "independent" and how "sovereign" that Palestinian state will be....... Get out of their face FIRST, RfaelMoshe, and THEN you can complain. RM: "how about the Palestinians promise and deliver five years of peace FIRST" I believe the answer to that question was supplied by Ehud Barak on Nov 4th last year, when he sent the IDF deep into Gaza to kill six Hamas militants juuuuuust as the ceasefire deadline was approaching. Same with your "plan" i.e. at 4 years and 364 days the Israelis will shout "They're comin' right at me!" before opeing fire, and then smugly reset the clock. It really would be As Easy As That.

he was a durze i guess they re arabs but with a close religion to islam. there known to be loyal to any country they live in.. But of course there re arabs serving in IDF

"Fayyad stressed in a statement that the Palestinian Authority will "continue to make every effort to prevent such an event from recurring." "Such an incident," the Palestinian prime minister said, "undermines national Palestinian objectives, and the Palestinian Authority's commitments." What about ethics and morals, you know like the 'Thou shall not kill' thing? Are these people to be our partners in peace? According to this clown, the biggest crime here is that it is against 'palestinian (sic) objectives'. That's worse than killing. Actually, once our objectives and committments have been met, go kill all you want!

Hello Sir, I don't agree with a lot of your comments. But unlike the haters of Israel (whatever their reason)I feel you are intelligent, someone who would compromise, and someone who advocates a fair 2 State solution. How there should be peace should be discussed. Stabbing this soldier in the back-via the tactic of being a Palestinian cop in uniform-is murder. It provokes outrage. It causes Israelis to think that the Palestinians can not be trusted, so why bother compromising. We can discuss the Palestinian suffering and humiliations next. The topic of dignity and a National Homeland. Again, a fair 2 State solution. But nothing gets discussed unless good people condemn pre-meditated murder. Come clean like you always do and condemn it. Do you agree?

it was an Arafat speciality.

Until incitement is stopped no peace on any terms is possible.

u: "If Israel stole as much land as the U.S. has from Mexico, it would now occupy the entire Middle East!" The USA certainly has *acquired* territory at the expense of Mexico, but it didn't *steal* any from Mexico. The USA can pull out a USA/Mexico treaty describing each and every territorial acquisition, and the kind ol' curator who produces it will certainly be able to point you to the signatures on the bottom of each faded document. Now, utagawa, can you go to the Israeli national archives and pull out any similar documents covering Israeli territorial acquisitions? I believe the answer is: No, because Israel possesses no such documents. Bummer, heh?

Those calling for the death penalty in Israel should be ready for the club they're joining, all the Moslem, Arab and Middle-East countries. The only supposedly advanced country that kills a lot of its citizens is America, mainly Texas, and many of us there remain appalled. Golda Meir said that she could forgive Arabs for killing Israelis, but not for turning Israelis into killers. It looks as if her worse fear is coming true. Moreover, Israel is acculturation to its neighbors, not just in brutality, but also in its demeaning of women and its rampant corruption.

YK: "If they want to use OUR roads, then they will stop trying to murder us." YOUR road?????? How can a road built inside Palestine be "your road"? It can't, and that is true regardless of wether it was Israeli money that paid for the damn thing and/or it was Israeli equipment that built the damn thing and/or wether Israeli cars are the only vehicles allowed to drive on the damn thing. It is inside "Palestine", and so it ain't "your road", and the fact the the loony-right in the Knesset wants to ANNEX THE DAMN THING in order to make it "yours" should make this obvious even to a racist supremicist like yourself. Consider: any thief will have exclusive use of his ill-gotten gains. Does this mean that stolen goods belong to the person who stole them? Israel is intent on stealing this road, Yishai. That won't make that road "yours", but is sure as hell will make Israel "a thief".

It seems to be a vicious killing and terrorist act on Fatah part than an "incident". It is silly on your part to think that westbank is not part of Israel. and building in any part in Israel is the right of any sovergn and democratic country. why don't you ask Scotland author if you are welcome before there before you speak for terrorists group?

My heart goes out the Ihab's family, friends, and all Am Israel. A terrible unnecessary loss of a wonderful young Israeli. May his memory be blessed.

Yesha council: "The terror attack at the Tapuach junction is a direct result of [Israel's] gestures toward the Palestinians." The victim was: 1) A serving soldier in uniform. 2) On active duty with an army of occupation. 3) Inside occupied territory. He was attacked, and ONLY he was attacked, and the attacker struck at him BECAUSE he was a soldier on active duty with an army of occupation. Now, you can describe that attack any number of ways, with the word "pointless" featuring high on the list. But a "terror attack"? *sheesh* if attacking a soldier on active duty is "terror! terror! terror!" then that word simply has no meaning.

Hey Joe, ref your comment - "Let`s just ignore reality that natives that don`t look like Paul Newman ACTUALLY have lived there since time immemorial?" Now I know wikapedia is not the most reliable reference but you may want to look up Paul Newman. (Yes there are blue eyed & blond haired Jews)Anyway enough of the trivia. The fact is this soldier was MURDERED. That can never be justified. G-d bless Israel & its people.

"let`s think about the perpetrator`s motives" - christoph We know nothing about the perpetrator's motives, how may we 'think' about them? I expect we shall be informed of what ever he tells the police. Until then it is all speculation.

During the British mandate. There was not a governor of a "West Bank".

I see you are a real high class lass from London, what with the crsing and all. I'm from Israel - I thought that was obvious. But then you wouldn't even know where to find it on the map. Updates weren't necessary to understand that the murder of an Israeli was perpetrated by a murdedring Palestinian terrorist.

Rami, what makes you an expert on International Law? Actually, I'm not one either, but I can tell you this. East Jerusalem, as you call it, is part of the entire muncipiality of Jerusalem, won fair and square in a war of agression started by Jordan in 1967. Historically, lands won in that kind of war are spoils to be kept by the victor. Since there has never been a country called Palestine nor people called Palestinian, until 1974, your post is crap.

No one mentions any kind of condolences to the victim, but rather tries to scheme how to turn this event (which seems like a nationalistic crime by an individual rather than a terrorist organization) into political gain and use it to stop settlement freeze. You should remember that Israel has convicted its own soldiers for attacking and occasionally killing or injuring Palestinians for no reason, thus what you call Jew-hatred (but in essence is a nationalistic crime) appears on both sides, as Arab hatred is just as prevalent in certain segments of the army, on an individual level. Minimizing these incidents would require both Israeli and Palestinian security forces to educate its members and make sure they are all compliant with their governments' respective policies, but the right wing responders here don't seem to have an interest in putting an end to attacks from both sides, all they want is to manipulate the attacks that do occur in order to advance a political agenda.

1. Clear the settlements and there will be no more terror attacks. It's nice to see how oblivious Brits, Scots, etc are. What you are advocating for is unilateral ethnic cleansing. While it is true that the settlers haven't been living in the West Bank as long as the Palestinians, there were many Jews living there who were forced to leave in the 30s. Regardless, we saw with the pullout from Gaza that a unilateral withdrawal does not guarantee peace. Thus any kind of removal of settlement and territorial swap has to be achieved through negotiations, which are non-existant at the moment (Who should Israel negotiate with? Fatah in the West Bank? Hamas in Gaza? Hamas in Damascus? The Americans? Who has the mandate to provide any kind of security guarantees to the Israelis? While Israeli government has been quite happy with the stalemate, at least it has a mandate to execute its decisions. Is there a Palestinian entity with a similar mandate?)

" 1. killing over a real estate dispute is not right under any circumstances." You have just disavowed Zionism. You need to try to be less hypocritical.

Let's get real, that Palestinian only did what every arab would like to do. So, unless Israel gets real leaders, this is just part of a never ending story. Come on!. What will the Arabs in the Israeli Parliament will give to this griving family - NO - not the one in Israel - BUT, the one in the West Bank. That is a reality check. Those MP's should be expelled from Israel etc, etc etc, but it will not happen. And in the meantime - Jordanians take away Jordanian Citizenship from Pals, Egyptians kill foreigners, Lebanon does not accept Pals as citizens etc, etc,etc. ISRAEL - GET REAL LEADERS

#99, stop making excuses for these Arabs, the murderer have been an officer, but he was not motivated by rivalry to his offical capacity becasue he used a knife, blood lust and fear motivated him. If the victim had a gun, the knife would have been ineffectual, and that the victim got into a vehicle, they were face-t-face and that he drove himself away means the man had no remorse to stop and reflect on what he had done and tried to reverse his course of action. A trained 'policeman' committed murder against another trained individual in uniform had apparently had no knowledge or perception of the coming attack. This was Arab agasint Jew, not officer agasint officer.

If a Palestinian POLICEMAN has no restraint then what can one say about the rest of this nation facing us?

You either have comprehension disabilities or are purposely distorting facts. Texas was annexed by the US in 1845. By then, Texas had already declared independence from Mexico(1836) and had been recognized as an independent republic by Britain, France, and the United States. Most Texans were in favor of annexation by the United States. You are comparing apples and sour grapes when attempting to find even a mustard seed of alignment between the history of Mexico and the US vs that of Israel and the Palestinians. For your own sake, refrain from posting drivel.

We know now that the Six Day War was an accident and neither side wanted a war. Israel attacked because it could not afford to stay highly mobilized for an extended period. Egypt and Syria were acting provocative because the Soviets had fed them misinformation which indicated that Israel was going to attack them. Israel struck first, that is true, but as you indicate it was not a war intended to seize territory. The two front war became a three front war and each front was pushed to the best DEFENSIVE line by Israel and not beyond. The resulting 'occupation' was not planned and just happened as a result of events following the war. Many, most in fact, Israelis at the time would have been delighted to exchange the conquered territories for peace, but the Arabs had not yet learned their lesson. That lesson came when they failed to recover by arms what had been taken by arms in 1973.

Israel should lock up all the settlers because of their burning of the mosque and repeated attacks on Palestinians. But of course Israel only uses collective punishment on the Palestinians, but not the violent Jewish settlers who attack Palestinians.

Would Israel remove All of its"Settlers" from the West Bank and East Jeruselem at the start of this 5 years of peace ( or is Israel only interested in the Piece(s) that it already has

Hey Jose does the Talmud teach about the need for honesty when dealing with non jews . And what about the repudiation of contracts on the day of atonement?

S: "Blockading is an act of war. What would the US have done to a nation blockading NY Harbor?" Solomon, ask yourself this question: After invading and occupying Iraq in 2003, could the USA then legally "blockade" Iraq? The answer is: "No". And the reason why the answer is "no" is because the USA was the "occupying power", and that brings with it legal responsibilities and obligations towards the occupied popln. Placing that occupied popln under a "blockade" is an ABROGATION of those responsibilities and obligations that an "occupying power" has towards that occupied popln, and is therefore illegal. It is the same with Gaza: "Blockading" Gaza is not an "act of war". It is a "war crime". And it is a "war crime" precisely because Israel is still the "occupying power". You can rant and you can rave that Israel ceased to be the occupying power upon Disengagement, but no country OTHER THAN Israel accepts that argument. Because, of course, that argument is false.

Didnt you leave out the Caananites you know that were there before the Israelites you know those people that the Palestinians are decended from

Sir, Any acceptable documentary support?

at an illegal settlement right in the middle of the West Bank? Why was he even in the West Bank? Shouldn't he be behind the Green Line, guarding Israel from attack? What fool sent him into foreign lands? If an armed Palestinian militant were to appear in Israel, wouldn't you expect him to be killed? So why should an Israeli militant in Palestine also not suffer this fate? Or are the rules different? And who sent him to guard an illegal settlement on occupied territory? Who conscripted him? That's the real culprit. I'm an American. I want to keep foreigners with guns out of my country. And I understand why foreigners might want to keep me out of their country. Fair is fair. Same rules for everyone.

True, Bobby. And how can Tony Silver in Copenhagen write the stuff he does, when it is apparently not safe to walk the streets there because of the hatred of immigrant Muslim's for all things Danish - all things European - all things Western?

This type of violence is impossible to predict or prevent under what passes for normal circumstances on this and many other such occasions. Thus,it may mean that only truly abnormal circumstances could have performed any better in the outcome here. As it now stands, matters seem desined to get worse until such time as those same'abnormal forces' can become a factor to be reckoned with - and on a daily basis. http://yorketowers.blogspot.com Very much not the 'normal' way to do things.

Well put and that takes care of that. Plus so many have gone the other way that this becomes a non story.

" 1. killing over a real estate dispute is not right under any circumstances." You have just disavowed Zionism. You need to try to be less hypocritical.

we live in dangerous times and one has to keep a cool head.

There are bad Israelis and there are good Israelis. Those who worship the real living God are the wize ones.

"Well it is Judea and Samaria" Give serious thought to what you say. "It is" according to what basis other than your delusions? " - the original names of these regions." Are found in the bible? " West Bank only came into being after 1967", poof like magic, in 67 the West Bank suddenly appeared on the map. Only 7 years after the movie Exodus hit the theaters - showing the world blue eyed blonds live there - and can speak English. Let's just ignore reality that natives that don't look like Paul Newman ACTUALLY have lived there since time immemorial? That's your argument. "coined for want of a better word to differentiate it from the East Bank - jordan. Nothing delusional except your denial of the facts." You are quite delusional if you think you can deny the existence of millions of Palestinians, deny their history and deny their glaringly obvious presence and claim on Palestine? If you don't see them or unwilling to see them is not something I can help you with.

Looks like the murdered Israeli soldier was an Arab protecting his chosen country please correct me if i am wrong.

Murder needs to be treated as the most serious crime. Other countries have a death penalty for such offenses.

That he makes up.

Channah S Read my other post at #21, smart- ass. BTW, it applies to you too. Read my lips, I responded to Dani before any updates on the article. I don't know where YOU are posting from,because you don't say.Maybe you don't like to.....?????

moral/ethical values; not with the law. If the murder, in other words didn't conflict with Fayyad's perceived interests, he would justify it. And Fayyad is the prime minister of a political entity that wishes to become a normal state...

2 things - One a statement and the other a question 1. killing over a real estate dispute is not right under any circumstances. 2. Care to guess the attack ratio between Palestinians on Israeli's versus Settlers on Palestinians? (your argument hold no water just hot air) I cant wait to read your response... In my opinion, as #58 puts it, he/she can go on and on (until the cows yawn)

This type of incident by a Palestinian policeman, clearly motivated by purest hatred , provides us with a very good insight into what any future "Palestinian state" might be like. Rather than a hollow "peace process" which the Palestinans cynically exploit for tactical advantage while making war agaisnt Israel, how about the Palestinians promise and deliver five years of peace FIRST, and then peace talks? If they can't do it now they wouldn't be able to do it later. Instead of "land for peace", how about "peace for land"?

I guess it's an incident between personnel of the PA's executive branch, which is entitled by its leaders to defend arrangements of Palestinian autonomy, and members of a foreign force who are perceived as competitors to this authority. We may have to do with an ambitious policeman whose self-conception need not necessarily be to fight for his people's sovereignty, but to defend his own authority in the district.

"Mexico was never captured in a war by the US for there to be an American presence in Tijuana." That's not true. The Mexican-American in 1846 war started over Americans annexing part of Texas which the Mexicans claims as theirs. The fact American expansion didn't reach Tijuana is an insignificant detail. " The similarities you try to make between the US and Mexico vs. that of Israel and the West Bank are bogus. The West Bank was never a sovereign entity, and the lands in discussion are disputed. Such is not the case in Tijuana." Go back and read your American and Mexican history. There are exact similarities of American "manifest destiny" ( ie "chosen" "will of god") to expand into territories not belonging to them. The only difference is America ultimately afforded the natives (Mexicans and Indians) FULL EQUAL RIGHTS and citizenship where as Israel practices apartheid.

#36/62 Joe: "Arabs are a peace loving bunch": Arab mobs and killers murdered hundreds of jews living in jerusalem and hebron in 1929 and 1936. They had lived there for generations. I will not even mention Hamas and Hezbollah. #39 CJ: "Israel has never withdrawn to it's Declared and acknowledged Sovereign boundaries." Israel withdrew from it's border with the Gaza strip. It was a test. The Arabs flunked. IDF may be a valid target. Not so indiscriminate bombing and killing of civilians. IDF presents a target outside the population; not so Hamas and Hezbollah which hides behind them. Legal to acquire territory by war if in self-defense. Illegal to be a sucker to spurious (at best) arguments. Read history. All of it, beginning before your all-too-convenient cut off date. #36 Simon: First strikes were at Egypt only. Jordan then attacked in Jerusalem. Only then did Israel attack Jordan. Jordan did not attack Israel in the Yom Kippur War and so was not attacked by Israel.

and braying your ignorance. If Israel stole as much land as the U.S. has from Mexico, it would now occupy the entire Middle East!

and is there one Palestinian who thinks statehood means anything other than the destruction of Israel? (not including politicians who will say anything for the effect) Let them come forward here and make themselves known. I am waiting... I am not referring to their supporters.

any one who invades others land should have some measure of expectation they will be retaliated against

It is disgusting that the Yesha Council would use this terrible incident to further their political goals. Shame on them.

Muslins learn from Taquyiat how they must lie to infidels. PA says something to the west hear and something very diffrent for their people.

"Jordan DID NOT ATTACK ISRAEL IN THE 6 DAY WAR!! Jordan only joined in to help defend Egypt after Israel attacked Egypt. " So how did Jordan "join in" - by attacking Israel of course - after Israel asked it several times to keep out of its war with Egypt. Had Jordan not wanted a piece of the victory cake - there would today be no West Bank "under occupation" but many Palestinians living in Jordan (with no speak of an independent state. Remember when King Hussein killed 15,000 Palestinians in 3 days in 1968 when they made trouble for him?

Would Pal PM condemn if victim Jewish ? Probably not. Just worried about alienating Druse.

After reading your posts here and elsewhere in these forums I am wiling to bet you have no idea of what "international Law" (can you state sources"), that you are the worst kind of Jew/Israel hater and that I am so relieved that people like you back our enemies and not us - save us a lot of embarrassment.

HAd Egyp Jordan and Syria won the 1967 war (when they claimed thair goal was to destroy Israel and get rid of the Jews, would your claim that "no state can "acquire" territory in an offensive or defensive war". Would they have handed the land back tot he ISraelis?.

www.sixdaywar.co.uk. Your post is so filled with blatant lies that I am not even going to bother to refute them. You haver the gall to say Israel atacked "without provocation" and claim that Israel attacked Jordan first. Reading the press from that time woul lay bare all your lies in a flash.

It's easy to write off a murder that occurs near Tapuach. Why do Jews even live there? If they choose to do so then it's the right of the arabs to attack and kill them. But what about the killings in Tel Aviv and Afula and Haifa,... What makes you think that the arabs are willing to let you live in areas israel won in 1948 but will kill for the lands Israel won in 1967. Arabs are not such fools, and they will not tolerate a Jew living on what they consider their land whether they loast in in 1948 or 1967. Those Jews who think otherwise are the basic reason why Israel continues to be at war since 1948. So go ahead and enjoy your coffee and cake as you sit in a cafe in Tel Aviv. But don't forget you had to show your bag to the guard at the entrance to the cafe, and don't get nerveious when an arab looking fellow with a back pack sits down at the table next to you.

You people kill each other in different ways. It is just ironic that Mahmud al-Khatib - Arab killed Ihab Khatib - Israeli. Do you think that they were related to each other, once upon a time? Sad, stupid, and ironic just like the wars that never end...

In 1967 Israel launched a preemptive attack on the Egyptian army (we all know why) and at the same time warned Jordan and Syria to keep out of it. Jordan however believed Nasser's tales of imminent Egyptian victory and wanted a piece of the cake. Both Jordan and Syria attacked Israel without any provocation whatsoever. The aim of all three countries with the back up of Russia and Iraqi soldiers was to destroy Israel totally. I keep asking myself whether those screaming "International Law" and "occupation" would be demanding that the Arabs gve back the land that was Israel to the JEws. We both know the answer to that, don't we.

What the hell were your sons doing in Afghanistan - thousands of miles away from where you live and hardly a threat on your lives? The Arabs were doing this to Israelis long before the 1967 war, when Israel acquired that territory by winning the war. Soon after it offered ALL the territory back in excange for full peace with its Arab neighbors. What was the response? The three NOs of Khartoum by the Arab League. There is no equivalence between the USA's involvement in Afghanistan and Israel's constant need to protect its citizens agains terrorist murderers on its dorrstep.

Even befoe the names were released the news was that an Israeli was attached by a Palestinian. How much clearer than that do you need?

Your comment should read "now I know" - Dani knew all along. You are so obviously ignorant of this part of the world that you are the one who judges without any foundation, and can't even recognize a name. Actually both the murderer and the victim were Arabs.

Well it is Judea and Samaria - the original names of these regions. West Bank only came into being after 1967, coined for want of a better word to differentiate it from the East Bank - jordan. Nothing delusional except your denial of the facts.

Whatever your opinions on the West bank, political actions do not warrant being stabbed to death - they call for counter political moves ie talks and negotiations - something the Arabs seems not to understand. You are justifying and advocating cold-blooded murder for its own sake - which is what terror is.

"Mexico was never captured in a war by the US for there to be an American presence in Tijuana." That's not true. The Mexican-American in 1846 war started over Americans annexing part of Texas which the Mexicans claims as theirs. The fact American expansion didn't reach Tijuana is an insignificant detail. " The similarities you try to make between the US and Mexico vs. that of Israel and the West Bank are bogus. The West Bank was never a sovereign entity, and the lands in discussion are disputed. Such is not the case in Tijuana." Go back and read your American and Mexican history. There are exact similarities of American "manifest destiny" ( ie "chosen" "will of god") to expand into territories not belonging to them. The only difference is America ultimately afforded the natives (Mexicans and Indians) FULL EQUAL RIGHTS and citizenship where as Israel practices apartheid.

PA cannot be trusted with a plastic knife. Disarm all PA. If a Pal is arms within 10 feet of an israeli, he should be considered an immediate threat.

The IDF soldier's first name, according to the police report, was Mohammed, indicating he is one of the few Arabs serving in the IDF. Was the attack one of revenge against an Arab serving as an Israeli soldier?

1 million arabs in israel and so there will be jews in the west bank. To the palestinians who want the west bank, ie judah and samaria jew free then start moving all your fellow arabs out of israel...try jordan the real palestinian state

"If Israel is such a land grabbing monster then why, after all these years of complaining, is Israel still so tiny?" That's like arguing why someone who has been dieting for 20 years is still 350 pounds? Ask Oprah! The fact they are 350 doesn't change the fact they have been dieting. The fact Israel is tiny doesn't change the fact IT HAS BEEN ILLEGALLY EXPANDING. The facts are you can't tell me which "tiny Israel" exists on the map? 48? 56? 67? 97? 2007? Where are the borders? In the 80's, Israel was in Beirut? In 2006 you had IDF troops on the Litani River? The fact Israel's border is not at the Euphrates, Litani or the Nile is by no means because Israel has no ambitions to expand there. The Greater Israel delusions have been met with resistance and as a result Israel will remain a tiny fortress hiding behind walls to the heavens to protect it's ill gotten gains in Palestine. I suggest Israel seeks genuine peace and abandon project runway Zionism.

Al-khatib kills a Khatib, there were maybe cousins...

It is not relevant who started the war in 1967. Jordan rulled the west bank and the pals never had a say! same status is in Lebanon, Kuwait and other Arab countries Pals. don't get citizenship!!! can't get key governmant jobs thats a fact.So where is the Aparthide???

Treat it as a murder case. Nothing more. Condolences.

"Mexico is not threatening the US with annihilation, does not shoot rockets into the US and does recognize it as a neighbor. Americans did not settle Mexico. Mexico has not attempted to rewrite history and ignore facts." You are right, Mexico is not attempting to rewrite history but you can't make the same claim about Zionists with their "Judea and Samaria" nonsense. The facts are, if Americans were to treat ILLEGAL Mexicans IN AMERICA the same way Jews treat their Arab CITIZENS in "Israel" and Arabs in the occupied territories, I can assure you more than rockets will be fired at Americans. You need a reality check. You need to be thankful Palestinians are such a docile and peace loving bunch. I want to see Jews play this back to the future shtick with any other people - let's say the Poles, Russians or Germans for starters. The facts are Jews have been thrown out of there not 2,000 or 200 years ago but less than 100 years ago. Zionists need to accept 67 border, take their ill gotten gains and be satisfied. Otherwise, accept the consequences of unbridled greed, which history shows always brings self-destruction.

there was trans JORDAN, let's see if |Jordan really wants it back.

Better check the history books again there, Solomon. Let me say it again for you and anyone else who did not get it the first time. It is a historical FACT that Jordan DID NOT ATTACK ISRAEL IN THE 6 DAY WAR!! Jordan only joined in to help defend Egypt after Israel attacked Egypt. We can have a healthy debate on these issues, but only if we stick to facts and truth instead of revisionist propaganda while debating

Avi, it is appalling that, otherwise smart people, would buy into this Palestinian victim charade. I wonder if their interest is more pro-Pal victim or anti-Jew. In either event, these folks have drank the kool-aid of Arafat-Abbas, undercutting Israel with each breath. It is especially mind-blowing that UK citizens have fallen for this. Under their noses, the British Empire is evaporating, to the benefit of Islam, the religion of Peace. There won't be much left by the time they return to their senses.

I fought in that war and I can assure you Israel wanted peace Nasser expelled all egyptian Jews and Nationalised their businesses, and directly after went to war with Israel who at the time did NOT want to apease its Neighbors. I wouuld guess that you have based your statementon Propoganda "Here are the historical facts. Israel struck the first blow in the 6 Day War by attacking Egypt. That`s right. Contrary to Zionist propaganda, it was NEVER A DEFENSIVE WAR FOR ISRAEL" Of course maybe you can prove your lie.

you're right enough is enough it was Jewish land way before anything else so if you want to regard History for acknowledgement you now have it, and you are right enough terrorists, Missles, Threats from theArabs ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

Perhaps it is not clear to you LS, first Jerusalem was a Unified Jewish city even when London was still overrun by Pagans never mind that NYC was not around yet, or the fact that Jordan was not Jordan even yet. More recently the west bank was not pALESTINE but TRANS JORDAN. The first Palestinians were zionist Jews like Yitzak Epstein (google that and see) who originated in the 1800's from Russia. Jews have been on the so called disputed land long before the Palistinians of today.

"where does it end? With dead Jews! No peace is possible on any terms while the incitement continues." Perhaps the Israel bashers will condemn this act of hostility. If it had been IDF they certainly would right Natalie? Not enough checkpoints and certainly not enough military presence, now that it is |Justified , again!

But you know, israel consider itself above all International Laws!

I just have to laugh even though these nut jobs who sanctify murder go on about how badly Israel behaves. You know folks it is truly pathetic how there are so many gullible people who actually think our neighbors behavior is due to the "Occupation". If Israel is such a land grabbing monster then why, after all these years of complaining, is Israel still so tiny? Please ask your smartest propaganda artist to reply. I can hardly wait to hear the details!

What about hte fact that this hapened on occupied territory? What about the settlemts? the attacks from settlers on Palestinians? i mean i can go on and on. Do the Palestinians not have a right to life? please tell me

Cold blooded murder is OK in your book as well as the International Community? YIKES!

"Yossi Margalit, a security officer from a nearby settlement ran over the attacker, lightly wounding him" you cant just go runing people over. In a "democratic" state like Israel, you should get a fair trial prior to execution, right?

To rm: The only occupation that is going on here is more like preoccupation with killing any Israeli you can find. This is what brings the greatest honor (and the naming of streets) to our lovely neighbors. The fact that you and many others buy their narrative is really nothing to be proud of however. Just curious... Do you think Bin Laden is justified in any way due to American occupation?

The problem is right here in many of the responses by Israelis. How could the problem possibly be solved by collective punishment of the entire indigenous civilian population in the occupied territories? (e.g. "Don't let the Arabs use the Tapuach junction for a month..."). If this is the strategy, then what hope do you have? And more importantly, do you really expect the rest of the world to sympathise with you?

Gaza Disengagement: The eviction of all residents, demolition of the residential buildings and evacuation of associated security personnel from the Gaza Strip was completed by September 12, 2005 Gilad Shalit: Early on Sunday morning, 25 June 2006, Shalit was captured by Palestinian militants who ambushed an Israeli army post on the Israeli side of the southern Gaza Strip border after crossing through an underground tunnel near the Kerem Shalom border. During the attack, two Palestinian militants and two IDF soldiers were killed and three others wounded. Settlements are only but an excuse. Shalit was kidnapped by Gazan gunmen while within Israeli sovereign territory. He was captured and his comrades killed after all settlements in Gaza had already been evacuated. Your comment is bizarre and lacks depth.

The same one that says the Martians built the pyramids. "Israel started it without provocation."

I hope this does not mean that the death of all hope for a peaceful solution is turning into a Palestinian backlash. For the last few weeks Settler attacks on Palestinians have been a daily occurrence. Usually when Kfir Brigade soldiers have shown up they came in on the side of the aggressors. This has been almost unreported in the english version of Haaretz, but it has been covered by press as far away as China. Things are getting real ugly real fast on the West Bank. I hope an intifada is not about to break out.

You must have heard that from your Television set. I suggest tuning into Reality instead. But that is just my opinion.

Avi, you hit the head of the nail first shot and this has alot to do with the problem you people have over there. Our news is carefully regulated by the Gov and this would never fly thank goodness

"I don`t think Americans can cross over into Mexico, steal land from the natives and build settlements in the heart of Tijuana - build roads for themselves and erect checkpoints for the natives and expect life to be anything but normal?"

Or is this just silly to you because the victim was Israeli? You made no mention of the killer and in fact you even justified the killing. What kind of person are you???

To rid forever these pal thugs and murders and also a good deterent. The US of A has, why not! locking them up to plan the next killing spree and have their love ones come to visit and spend their time in a prison that gives you more to life then where you live is not helping the situation at all

These settlers who insist on living in Palestine make their own grief. If I was Israel, I'd tell these settlers that if they choose to live in an area that may eventually be ceded to the Palestinians and they find themselves on the Palestinian side of the border they will be citizens of Palestine. They will be Palestinian Jews. Israel has Arabs. Palestine will have Jews. It's the same thing. Settlers,,,,,,,, enjoy!

Wrong. Very Wrong. Blockading is an act of war. What would the US have done to a nation blockading NY Harbor? Especially if said country surrounded US with overwhelming force and threatened it with annihilation, throwing out the UN which was put in place to thwart hostile actions. HOW MUCH PROVOCATION DO YOU NEED?! Also: Simple fact: If Jordan had not attacked, Israel would not have counterattacked. In fact Israel told Jordan many times (through the UN) that Israel would not initiate hostilities with Jordan. Israel was not a sucker. Sorry.

"Your rebuttals to Michael F do not make any sense." To you, of course they don't. " The PA cannot turn down proposals and expect to get what they want." An entity cannot declare Sovereignty unless it has full control over all it's territories. FACT. " "Just withdraw" Been there, done that" Israel has never withdrawn to it's Declared and acknowledged Sovereign boundaries. "The result is indiscriminate murder from Gaza" The IDF is a valid target. " Jordan illegally occupied Transjordan" Israel AGREED. Read the Armistice agreement. "Principle of self defense does not limit defending only from your own territory." Quiet so. It is illegal to acquire territory by war. " Land did not belong to anyone by your own admission" Except I do not admit to your ignorant BS. Territory can belong to a non-state entity, that's why Israel only occupies. Occupation is not Sovereignty. Nor is illegal annexation.

Land Expansion by conquest has been ruled to be illegal and not part of customary international law. Thus no state can "acquire" territory in an offensive or defensive war. But using your logic, i guess it's the Palestinians fault for the increase in settlements, because they should have known that not accepting an offer that would not give Palestinians their full rights--inevitably creating more resistance--created the illegal settlement expansion. Those pesky Palestinians should have known that those Moral Israelis would not have stolen more land. Yeah its always the Palestinians fault

Mexico was never captured in a war by the US for there to be an American presence in Tijuana. The similarities you try to make between the US and Mexico vs. that of Israel and the West Bank are bogus. The West Bank was never a sovereign entity, and the lands in discussion are disputed. Such is not the case in Tijuana. Mexicans have not launched a war against the US, where as Arabs have launched wars against Israel, instigating the occupation that continues. The occupation will end when hostilities cease. There is no argument here that occupations does or not exist. It exists, but your similarities between the US Mexico Israel and the West Bank do not explain the reasons for it!

"Mexico is not threatening the US with annihilation, does not shoot rockets into the US and does recognize it as a neighbor. Americans did not settle Mexico. Mexico has not attempted to rewrite history and ignore facts." You are right, Mexico is not attempting to rewrite history but you can't make the same claim about Zionists with their "Judea and Samaria" nonsense. The facts are, if Americans were to treat ILLEGAL Mexicans IN AMERICA the same way Jews treat their Arab CITIZENS in "Israel" and Arabs in the occupied territories, I can assure you more than rockets will be fired at Americans. You need a reality check. You need to be thankful Palestinians are such a docile and peace loving bunch. I want to see Jews play this back to the future shtick with any other people - let's say the Poles, Russians or Germans for starters. The facts are Jews have been thrown out of there not 2,000 or 200 years ago but less than 100 years ago. Zionists need to accept 67 border, take their ill gotten gains and be satisfied. Otherwise, accept the consequences of unbridled greed, which history shows always brings self-destruction.

So I suppose that you'd make the same statement if the victim was an Arab and the place Sderot or somewhere similar? That it's really kinda their fault for being somewhere where certain other people don't want them? Of course you wouldn't. You and the rest of your kind are only interested in bashing Israel - "objective thinking" is an entirely foreign concept as far as you are concerned.

Still believing and perpetuating that same old lie, huh? Jordan DID NOT attack Israel. Here are the historical facts. Israel struck the first blow in the 6 Day War by attacking Egypt. That's right. Contrary to Zionist propaganda, it was NEVER A DEFENSIVE WAR FOR ISRAEL. Israel started it without provocation. Jordan, who had been trying to avoid what they knew was Israel's imminent attack on it's neighbors, then joined in to help defend Egypt since they were bound to help Egypt due to the Mutual Defence Treaty that had been signed between Egypt and Jordan a week before Israel's attack on Egypt. And your comment about Arafat turning down an offer of 95-98% of the West Bank is also a continually perpetuated lie. I have seen the map of the offer made during those negotiations and it was nowhere near 95% of the West Bank. Do a Google search for the map of the offer from those negotiations and you will see it for yourself. That is unless the truth is too much for you to handle!!

Michael, the offers made to Arafat and Abbas were of various flavors, some completely assinine, as the offer by Barak at Camp David in 2000, some more reasonable, like the talks at Taba in early 2001 or the stuff we are hearing about Olmert's last talks with Abbas. Whenever the talks came close to something acceptable to the Palestinians, the Israelis pulled out, invariably because of "upcoming elections". 1967 War by the way, was preemptive by any measure. Israel attacked first. Subsequent Israeli policy in the West Bank, if not illegal by your books, was and is clearly disgusting and a disgrace to the Jewish people. When I see an old man dragged out of his home in his underwear to clean graffiti on a wall in Israel, I understand full well, the intentions and feelings of the Jewish state. You should be ashamed to even attempt to defend Israeli behavior in the WB.

Just because CJ writes it, therefore it must be the gospel truth,,, NOT !! Israel doesn't have to do ANYTHING unilaterally, only through negotiations. The Pals have never negotiated in good faith. Always want, want, want. Never offering anything of substance in return. Possession is a strong equalizer. Until the Pals get serious, they will get squat. If 90+% wasn't enough, it shows their lack of sincerity. The Gaza debacle was a litmus test, turning evacuated territory into a terror hotbed. Sorry, they flunked.

Rami #17: Murder is murder. Also read #20: Our apologies that Israel did not allow itself to be annihilated. Joe #18 #23: Mexico is not threatening the US with annihilation, does not shoot rockets into the US and does recognize it as a neighbor. Americans did not settle Mexico. Mexico has not attempted to rewrite history and ignore facts. LS #22: Hamas hides behind it's own people. They have brought it on themselves. Or do you not care for people killing Jews which Hamas did indiscriminately even before they forcibly took over the Gaza strip? CJ #25: Your rebuttals to Michael F do not make any sense. 1- The PA cannot turn down proposals and expect to get what they want. 2- "Just withdraw" Been there, done that. The result is indiscriminate murder from Gaza. 3- Jordan illegally occupied Transjordan and then attacked from there. 4- Principle of self defense does not limit defending only from your own territory. Land did not belong to anyone by your own admission.

The posts I read here are a wonderful illustration of the utterly corrupted mentality that has permeated Israeli thought. If every time an Israeli settler or occupation soldier killed a Palestinian, we screamed "collective punishment of all Jews" - we'd be deemed anti Semite Nazis. It should not be hard to understand that the situation in the West Bank is one where the majority Palestinians are forced to live in isolated enclaves, very little mobility, very few rights of a human living in a sovereign nation, they are at the mercy of the whims of the Israeli Occupation. In a situation like this, every so often, someone will snap, and someone will kill a person who is involved in this occupation. It is that simple. The Israeli-First crowd should be happy it doesn't happen more often. The only solution is one where the dignity and human rights of BOTH SIDES are observed. So far, Israel refuses solutions of this nature. That is why Israel is a pariah state, despised.

Two of my kids served in the occupation of Iraq where thousands of American GIs got killed and tens of thousands were wounded over the last 7 years. It is a real risk of occupying other people. It also gave the US some incentive to look for ways to end the occupation. This soldier, unfortunately, suffered the same fate as those thousands of American GIs who died occupying Iraq. Bring his body home. Honor his service. Then think about the costs to Israel of continuing to occupy other people. It isn't free and it isn't supposed to be free.

Tony, you're right. Hamas is the cause of ALL suffering in Gaza. Until Hamas is eradicated, the Gazans will continue to choke. Actually, they are being treated with kid gloves. Time to choke off the thugs, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, Tony.

[ Don`t let the Arabs use Tapuach junction for a month] But the victim appears to be an Arab or Druse soldier as well

"The PA has already turned down peace proposals which would have resulted in a Palestinian state " Wrong. In order to declare Sovereignty an entity MUST have complete control over ALL their territories. "You can say that politically Israel must give up land for peace.." Israel doesn't have to give up ANY land. Just withdraw to it's actual Sovereign boundaries. "but do not say that their presence on the West Bank is illegal. It is not. Israel took the land from Jordan after Jordan attacked Israel. " Wrong. It wasn't Jordan's, they were a legal temporary trustee. "For Israel, 1967 was a defensive war and taking land in a defensive war is legal." Wrong. Only if that territory was Sovereign Israeli territory. It was not. Israel has never legally annexed ANY territory.

Only a man with slightest clue about UN system and customary international law can claim that acquisition of territory by conquest in a "defensive war" can be legal. NO acquisition of territory from the use of force in ANY kind of war is permitted under international law. This is in the UN Charter, numerous courts decisions, and in the international custom.

The freedom of Samaria & Judea is coming, don't worry yourselv jews.

why the hell is his car upside down?

israeli right wing wrong policy is the cause of all troubles in Gaza and W.Bank. Israel must stop putting its colonizers in the W.Bank and be serious in its negotiations with the Palestinians Authority. Enough is Enough!

''Initial reports said the victim had been in his jeep, driving from the direction of Ramallah toward Nablus, when he was approached by the attacker, who reached into the vehicle and stabbed the man close to his heart.'' How did the attacker reach in the moving vehicle? Is he a super hero running like the wind. or is he a super agent like James Bond arriving with his car and reaching in the car stabbing him while driving with his foot? Bizarre or better: incomplete story

I continue to hear Netanyahoo and other Zionists refer to the occupied West Bank as Judea and Samaria? Delusions are a wonderful escape but reality makes prisoners of all of us. The security Israeli's seek is not going to be found outside the 67 line - and nor should it be there. I don't think Americans can cross over into Mexico, steal land from the natives and build settlements in the heart of Tijuana - build roads for themselves and erect checkpoints for the natives and expect life to be anything but normal? I'm curious to know of the crime rate of Arab on Jew inside of Israel? I'm sure it's a negligible figure. Case closed! Go home settlers - if not to Brooklyn, settle in Tel-Aviv and take your delusions with you.

Except where there are issues of them murdering Jews. If they want to use OUR roads, then they will stop trying to murder us. Otherwise, the only road we will let them use is the one due east- to Jordan, and it will be a one-time, one-way use.

against the Palestinians when Israel could prevent attacks like this by removing the settlements. The rationale of the right is bizarre, and that is being polite.

#12 Yes, I did read the article - that's why I responded to Dani. Look at the timing of the update-17.06. My response was posted at 15.44. Read and digest the post before you insult me.

The PA has already turned down peace proposals which would have resulted in a Palestinian state -- once by Arafat and once by Abbas. Both offers included parts of Jerusalem, 95-98% of the West Bank, and land within the pre-1967 Green Line. You can say that politically Israel must give up land for peace, but do not say that their presence on the West Bank is illegal. It is not. Israel took the land from Jordan after Jordan attacked Israel. For Israel, 1967 was a defensive war and taking land in a defensive war is legal.

There, Dani, now we know. Condolences to both sides in these non-stop grizzly episodes.

I continue to hear Netanyahoo and other Zionists refer to the occupied West Bank as Judea and Samaria? Delusions are a wonderful escape but reality makes prisoners of all of us. The security Israeli's seek is not going to be found outside the 67 line - and nor should it be there. I don't think Americans can cross over into Mexico, steal land from the natives and build settlements in the heart of Tijuana - build roads for themselves and erect checkpoints for the natives and expect life to be anything but normal? I'm curious to know of the crime rate of Arab on Jew inside of Israel? I'm sure it's a negligible figure. Case closed! Go home settlers - if not to Brooklyn, settle in Tel-Aviv and take your delusions with you.

Under international law the man did nothing wrong. the west bank and east jerusalem are not part of israel but a part of settlements present in the westbank which israel annexed. the geneva convention does not allow a country to move its citizens to areas which it has occupied.

When is Israel going to institute a death penalty for the murderous terrorists like this knife attacker? How many more Israelis have to die? Is next liberal government goig to release this killer as a "goodwill gesture" to appease UN?

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It's the least we can expect from you. Do you think a "Palestinian" called Mahmoud al-Khatib could be an Israeli Jew?

And the Palistinians want a state?

Build more checkpoints to prevent terrorism

my condolences go to the family of the victim. Ending the occupation would be one way to prevent further attacks of this kind. But obviously that's one road Israel is not willing to go.

Incitement is a major issue! The Arabs are naming streets and squares for terrorist and teaching hatred to children..where does it end? With dead Jews! No peace is possible on any terms while the incitement continues.

they are terrorists or at the very least murderers. How dare Haaretz whitewash reality like a typical leftist who refuses to see things as they are but rather as they could be. There is no difference between Hamas and Fatah (and all the other terror groups) when it comes to the desire to spill Jewish/Israeli blood. And they all celebrate when any Israeli is killed or maimed. There have been no apologies from the Palestinians and no peace movements either. That is why Mid-East peace does not exist.

will continue until a fair solution is reached.

#1 - Dani Where in the article does it state that the attacker was an Arab?? You have already made up your mind, without knowing the facts. Be patient Dani and all will be revealed in time...

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people going to the westbank who are not welcome there.Why are Israelis taking their life in their hands going to a country where they are not welcome.I certainly would not want to go and live in a country where I was not welcome,besides its Illegal for Israelis to go build houses in palestine aswell as stupid.

Then let's see if they continue with their terror there. If we do this every time, then there won't be a next time.