Olmert tells Time magazine that Palestinian PM is a 'terrorist'

Olmert knows what a terrorist is. The zionists invented it or at least imported it to Palestine after the second world war. European jews organised terrorist groups ( Hagannah, Irgun, Stern, etc...)to kill, terrorise and chase away from their homes and villages palestinian people who had nothing to do with the Nazi atrocities against the jews. On the way, they also assassinated English soldiers posted in palestine, which the English government promptly forgot. The bloodthirsty terrorists such as Shamir and other Israeli Prime Ministers were then received with all honours everywhere. All the media and the "western" political classes have been actively hiding those truths from the people.

to stay outside the green line, under protection of the Israeli Army, terrorizing, murdering and robbing the people that already lived there, Olmert is a bigger terrorist than all people of Hamas put together.

"If there is going to a peaceful settlement, everyone has to move foward and not backward." On another thread you made the following response. "They did 911." ????? is that moving Foward.I am more than confident that I could find many examples of same. 2. "Isn,t that what the Irish did."? Yes indeed after we got over the past on both sides. 3."I notice you dont keep bringing up the historical problems that you have been faced with". Actually you are wrong there. If you had read my posts you would have noticed considerable discussion between myself and Nadjt and Tzfonit and some others. Incidentally the issue was broached in the context of learning from the Irish experience and not in the context of a hidden insinuation, that is your intent, ie to divert or find justification for Israel,s behaviour.We see it all the time on this site. There are plenty of sites to bring up Irelands past, good or bad and this is not it.Lynn you do not qualify for the award for "Consistency.

The Palestinians are the indigenous people of that land.They have had a continuous presence since ancient times.They are mentioned in the Old Testament as the Philistines,along with Cananites and Hebrews.The Hebrews were taken into capitivity.Some migrated and wandered off.After their defeat at the hands of the Roman Empire they went into diaspora and did not have a presence as a Collectivity till the 19th century,when the Austrian Jew,Theodor Herzel,author of Der Judenstaat(1896)founded Zionism.He called for a Zionist state from which the indigenous population would be cleansed.Many places were considered,Kenya,some island,Turkey,but Palestine became the victim of this racist,despicable policy.But the Palestinians never left and never will leave.Get used to it.Make peace.Look around you.The world is not pleased with Israel.Quit stalling.Accept the Arab Initiative.This deal may not come your way again.Forget name calling.

You know little for being a knowitall. If anyone should keep their trap shut it is you. Occupation,terrorism? That would be claimed by the mainly foreign born occupiers. If these people need a place to go why don't their brother Arabs take them in? Yasser Arafat was an Egyptian whose own homeland didn't want him. Do your research, Know-nothing.

It's unbelievable how Palestinians can spin and turn everything around. May Haniye and Hamas, Islamic Jihad and Nasrallah, Ahmadinejad and Al-Qaida, Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades and Rafsanjani, all go straight to hell.

Olmert's father a terrorist? Please give name and dates of terror attacks or cut the crap.

Sara how are you doing. 273 is the UN res that gave Israel It,s right of admission to the UN.It addresses the isssue of res 181 and 194 and Israel,s Promise to fulfill their committment to same which they have to a word not complied. Most people have never heard of it but I came accross it digging around in UN records. It is easy to find , just google "UN resolutions and do search on 273/Israel. Regards

"If there is going to a peaceful settlement, everyone has to move foward and not backward." On another thread you made the following response. "They did 911." ????? is that moving Foward.I am more than confident that I could find many examples of same. 2. "Isn,t that what the Irish did."? Yes indeed after we got over the past on both sides. 3."I notice you dont keep bringing up the historical problems that you have been faced with". Actually you are wrong there. If you had read my posts you would have noticed considerable discussion between myself and Nadjt and Tzfonit and some others. Incidentally the issue was broached in the context of learning from the Irish experience and not in the context of a hidden insinuation, that is your intent, ie to divert or find justification for Israel,s behaviour.We see it all the time on this site. There are plenty of sites to bring up Irelands past, good or bad and this is not it.Lynn you do not qualify for the award for "Consistency.

Every Israeli seems to forget their overt terrorist activities before 1948.

i donno why that is... have you ever tried?

YOUR BOST IS TOTAL CRAP . HAS NO BASIS IN FACT LAW OR REALITY . PRIOR TO 1948 JEWISH SETTLEMENTS WERE ON THE SAME LAND AS AS TODAY !THEY WERE DRIVEN OUT BY AN UNLAWFUL INVASION BY TRANSJORDAN AIDED AND ABETTED BY BRITAIN !!

calling the kettle black?

This is what we all have to do, call things by their true name. Hanniyeh is a terrorist, indeed. This is not an insult but a definition.

Your lies about one honest arab state is so telling of your delusiona thought process! Israel has prime ministers and presidents charged with rape and embezzlements charges, a right wing russian moron n your congress whose personality at best is only psychotic and sociopathic, and you as an Israeli, of course have the audacity to deflect any faults of your own towards the Palestinian and their prime minister. You never learn do you? Not in the 40's and not now! Learn to look within before you always project outside of yourself. Your dysfunctional identities can only be healed if you face the paranoid delusions about yourself and your peoples so called justified hostility towards palestinians and in the region-Lebannon! Stop the occupational thought process! instruggle for one unity!!

What's good for the goose (Begin, Shamir & Sharon) is good for the gander (Arafat, Yassin & Nasrallah).

Dear Mr. Olmert, Try a patriot instead upholding his legitimate international right to defend his people and homeland against an unlaw- ful and brutal occupier! Long live the Palestine and the Palestinian people! Dutch P.S. I imagine, I will say the same for Israel and the Israelis when they get out of the Palestinian territories. ( I am not against Israel but its unlawful aggression.)

"The terrorist is the one who kills children, raids villages and [refugee] camps, builds settlements and confiscates the land. It is not Ismail Haniyeh." True, but killing innocent civilians in Israeli pizzarias or markets is terrorism as well, and it is time both sides look at there actions and feel the shame they have brought upon there people.

"...when Israel became a state in 1948". Who do you think was living in that territory before the mass immigration of European and Russian Jews? Texas jackrabbits? Or did you conveniently "forget" that little part of "history"? What excuse does YOUR brain have...neocon-itis?

...that's what we think of Olmert.

This is also connected with the Right of Refugees to Return,194(III of 1948),Human Rights ,International Covenant On Civil and Political Rights, which allows for citizens to be repatriated to the home country.On the basis of this Israel brought in the Russian Jews, although Geneva Convention ,as you quote,does not allow civilian transfer to Occupied Territory. Prior to Israel's admission to the U.N. Israel had agreed to abide by all U.N, resolutions.See UN GAOR Ad Hoc Political Comm.,3d Sess.,45thmtg.,at 4,at 7, UN Doc.AC/Ac 24/SR 47(1949). At this meeting the Israeli rep. gave an unqualified aafirmative answer to cooperate with the U.N. with" all the means at our disposal in the fulfillment of the resolution concerning refugees."

Come back when you enter PUBERTY babe. Also little Crissy I just heard on the grapevine... terrible news about the Titanic isn't it? BTW it was the IrguNNN not Irgut or was tat just a guNNNN feeling you had?

Jesus said, "If there is one of you who has not sinned, let him be the first to throw a stone"

According to your logic, neither side is right, but the Arabs are less wrong. Take a notice of where you are posting: an Israeli talkback, which allows for its enemies to speak their minds. I've never been able to get a posting published on any Arab or pro-Pal site. How do you explain that?

I object to. Having said that, if they want peace then they need to drop the part of their charter that calls for the destruction of Israel.

if there is going to be a peaceful settlement, everyone has to move forward and not backward. Isn't that what the Irish have done? I notice you don't keep bringing up the historical problems that you have been faced with.

Let's see now: the Israelis have been led by (or rather, have elected to lead them) Menachem Begin, Yitzhak Shamir, and Ariel Sharon. (The Austrians? Partially by Jorge Haider). Then of course there's Benjamin Netanyahoo, Bibi to his friends (every columnist in America, it would seem, kind of like calling Chris Evert "Chrissie); he actually participates in a ceremony honoring one of the most horrific acts of terrorism of the 20th century: the blowing up of the King David Hotel, murdering scores of British civilians. So how to explain such a thing? Simple, when you're a Zionist: lie. Say a phone call was made, warning of the bomb, just as you say Baruch Goldstein massacred all those Arabs because they weren't praying but were in fact plotting to kill Jews. Yada yada yada.

Where there is a military occupation, Art 49 of the Geneva Convention is clear and simple about one grave war crime: "The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies.". The statute contains no exceptions, no justifications. The United States officially regards the Israel’s transfer locations in Palestine as “illegal settlements”. This criminal enterprise began in 1967 when Israel’s leaders, in deliberate defiance of international law, decided to transfer civilians into Palestine [see "Israel's Tragedy Foretold", New York Times, March 10, 2006]. Over the 40 years since Israel has profoundly victimized thousands of Palestinians by confiscation of their farmlands, and dispossession from and demolition of their homes - all to make way for civilian transferees from Israel. This continues to today. [see “Council pushes through illegal West Bank building plan”, Ha’aretz, Feb. 25, 2007].

MUSLIM APARTHEID AGAINST WOMEN AND DHIMMIS HINDU APRTHEID ON THE UNTOUCHABLES ? WER YOUR PARENTS FIRST COUSINS?????? YOUR POSTS ARE WORTHLESS THEY ARE JUST STUPID HATRED !!

I don't get the impression that Hamas political-military leadership is too invested right now in building up an infrastructure for a sustained terror campaign, although they may be planning for 1 or 2 actions--they seem more interested in building up a more capable and useful conventional deterrent, supplemented by rocketry. At a certain point in organizational growth you want to expand your product line into more sophisticated coordinated small-unit action--the organization carries its own intentional imperative.

Gino asks, "Name one civilized Arab nation, not one. not a single one!" But my question to him is, "Name one civilized Jewish nation?" NO GINO. They may be an industrialized nation, but they are not truly civilized. Do they follow any of the Ten Commandments? Does their government follow follow their own Supreme Court? Do they occupy other nations? Do they kill women and children? Do they need the most foreign aid per capita of any nation on earth? Do they have compassion for anyone other than themselves? NO, the Israeli's and their government are hardly the model democracy nor as civilized as that Nazi-US General Craddock claims.

As I understand my history American Indians' land was stolen and were driven into reservations.It's the other way around with Israel:they stole Palestinian land killed off as many as possible and put the rest into fenced cantons.Israel is therefore known as an apartheid state.Re: the Palestinians being nomads,they are the indigenous people of the region since ancient times.They are mentioned in the Old Testament as the Philistines.There were other tribes there like the Cananites and the Hebrews, who were taken into capitivity.Since their return they also fought the Romans,were defeated and went into diaspora,wandering to other countries.And it is in the 19th centuriy that the Austrian Jew Theodor Herzel,author of Der Judenstaat(1896) called for a Zionist state to be established and where the native population would be driven out.Many places like Kenya were considered and then finally the Palestinian became the 'chosen' people for this ghastly,racist experiment.

What does the EX british Empire have to do with the "Clear and Present Danger"that Israel is.What does it have to do with the Brutal and Apartheid policies of a Government and idealogy in its death knell. Typical weak response when you have no credible argument.Interesting how every author who tells the truth about the Crimes of Israel is berated or referred to as "A Self Hating Jew". Long live Jimmy Carter.

israel must start targeted killings again. It is very effective

David Hirst is a coffin layer who fabricated every word he ever wrote. However, as we look back and study the atrocities of the British Empire and the affects it had on the cultures and populations they encountered, we can see a vast array of human suffering and strife. Israelis are nothing more than American Indians who have come back and taken back what was theirs to begin with. Palestinians are Islamic gypsies who looking to justify a place in the Islamic realm, while no other Islamic nation really cares about them other than using their agenda as a smoke-screen for the corruption and misappropriations going on within their own countries. BLAME THE JEWS FOR ALL!!!! IT IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT!

all your words should be directed to Egypt and Jordan for having cast aside these people, not wanting anything to do with them, knowingly, and undestanding that they are nothing but a headache. My uncle was murdered in cold blood by Jordanian police in Black September. Don't tell me about refugees, tell me about Jordanian citizenry and the Palestinian right to be running a British colony called Trans Jordan.

the "t" is quite a ways off from the "n" I susspect you are just as far off

I agree with you about Olmert being bad, but that, only for his country. As to your comments about ethnic cleansing on the part of Israel I think the frostbite has elevated to your brain. Muslims and Blacks are the champions of ethnic cleansing. Do'nt even atempt to throw any dirt on us about this. Israel has done more for the Palestinians than any one else. Roads, schools, electricity, water supplies, economic assistence, employment. So, before you spread your know-nothing bull inn public forums you should thaw out your brain a bit.

Cristina here are some examples of the so called "Men of Peace of Irgun and Stern" They were ready to do anything, anywhere. They blew up the British Embassy in Rome. They dispatched "Letter Bombs"to British Ministers.and one addressed to Major Farran killed his brother instead.They sent an assssination squad into Britain , with the mission --which was not accomplished of killing the former commanding officer of Palestine, General Evelyn Barker,it,s members included Weizman,s own nephew,Ezer Weizmann.they planned to sink a british passenger ship in Shanghai. In Palestine they killed soldiers in their sleep. They captured and flogged officers : then they hanged two Sergeants from a tree and booby trapped their bodies.Etc etc.. How many things do we not know about. Source for this is "The Gun and The Olive Branch"By David Hirst. But of course there were no terrorists in Israel,s Pristine history--Right. See the blatant "Hypocracy" with which these apologists try to spin the truth

"The terrorist is the one who kills children, raids villages and [refugee] camps, builds settlements and confiscates the land. It is not Ismail Haniyeh." Ghazi Hamad Well, said Ghazi Hamad! Please add over 1,100 Lebanese civilians his forces attacked with 21st century air power. Is it any wonder people call Israelis officials and the IDF "a rough" class of people. Dutch

Bank robber trys to use youre logic maria by pointing out that another criminal had stolen more than he.Didn,t work maria. A criminal is a criminal.

you speak of innocent children killed in discos and restaurantes? what of innocent children shot dead while playing by a sniper's rifle? there is really no comparison between the atrocities carried out by the idf to those by suicide bombers... none whatsoever... neither are right... but in terms of magnitude... israel has far more to be ashamed of than do the palestinians... i wonder if you really know the exact nature of israel's oppressive and destructive tactics that it utilizes freely against them... seek out the facts that are real... instead of believing the propaganda that israel has used for 60 yrs to fool the world... israel is NOT a victim! the holocaust ended long ago... but ITS victims learned well the art of oppression and persecution... a lesson that's being applied today against the palestinians...

Israel can and may kill Haniye. Calling him 'terrorist', which he is, makes no difference.

both sides commit sins against both man and God, chrissy... never would i say that what a suicide bomber does is "right". but i also recognize the reality that in fact it is the only effective weapon the palestinians possess... and it's born of their complete despair... a despair that israel's oppression has brought them to. and as despicable as it seems...to blow yourself up to kill an enemy...imagine the futility that would lead to such a thing. no palestinian does it for allah...he/she does it for the future. these aren't losers who have nothing better to do...they are the educated who see no future...who have no future. they live in an imposed hell with no opportunity to live their dreams and to succeed. they are students and people with degrees...who choose to die hoping that a change it might bring...for their children and siblings. and theirs is no less a sin than the israeli who bombs them from an f-16, or fires rockets from helicopters or shells from a tank or cannon.

First, the invention was by anarchists in East Europe in the early 1900's, in the Austrian Empire...... Second, the Israeli freedom fighters had targets only military. Civilians were never targeted. And in addition, the numbers of military were smaller than any guerilla war before or after. Maybe 30 or 40 over a few year period. The idea was to minimize the damage.... Now contrast that to people today who deliverately target Israeli children in pizza parlors, restaurants, discos, busses..... Those evil people are killing Israelis BECAUSE they are civilians. This is a sin against man and God.....

in regards to ACTUAL individual acts of violence? israel is by far more violent... there is actually NO comparing the two sides. you say that you are a christian? and yet you steadfastly support israel's oppression and killing and displacement of the palestinian people... and you support its aggression in lebanon where it killed over a thousand innocents and destroyed the county's infrastructure in response to a single attack by an extremist faction that is not representative of the people of lebanon; which includes christians. "born again", you say? unto what were you born? to be a christian is to strive to emulate Jesus as much as is humanly possible... and yet you consistantly deny His teachings in your blind support for a country that consistantly defies His words... AND YOU DO IT IN HIS NAME... God sent Jesus to begin a "new covenant"... not to reinforce the one that had become corrupt which Jesus cursed in the temple. your christianity eludes you, maria.

Mr. Olmert, get real. Have you been living in a cave since 1948?! Did the Arabs ever quit trying to wipe Israel off the map? What about the wars Israel was forced into in 1956, 1967, and ever since? Israel has a wonderful Protector, who is God Himself. Arabs, wise up!

The only difference between Haniyeh and Arafat is the nice suit & spotted scarf Arafat wore,dont make the same mistake Ariel Sharon made when Arafat was in a snipers crosshairs boarding a ship to Tunisia after being exiled from Lebanon & Sharon gave the order to stand down late 1980s. If Israel can link Haniyeh to a terrorist act against Israel BOOM!! don't ask Condileeza Rice or Bush,PERMISSION GRANTED

The difference between former PM David Ben-Gurion and Ismail Hanniyah is that the former was a wanted terrorist, personally indicted for participating in atrocities against Palestinian and British civilians.

"It will take at least 3 generations to civilize the Arab culture." I beg to differ. From what I've seen, it will take much more than 300 generations to civilize the Arab culture. These aren't schoolboys we're talking about but indeed terrorists. It's been 3 generations since Israel was given back her land, and as far as I can determine, the Arabs / Palestinians (which don't exist) have only gotten MUCH more violent. Jews and Christians know one person will be able to change them - Messiah!

Israel should not boost this Hamas-run terrorist camp by releasing those murderers who`ve killed Israeli women, children etc. Shalit should be release without conditions as he was illegalli kidnapped. Hamas continues to attack Israeli citizens and the response should be as with any terrorist groups - no negotiation, no appeasement and no exchange of captured terrorists for hostages. In reality Hamas doesn`t care about its own people, the Palestinians in general or anything but its jihadist agenda. Hamas ignores all civilian infrastucture and steals money to pay they cronies, just like Fatah did. They have no agenda, political or otherwise because they are not interested in governing but in being the proxy and Iranian puppets.

Palestinian leadership`s refusal to implement agreements, such as disarming terrorist groups, revising hateful propaganda etc is what`s to blame. While terrorist sympathizers and appeasers were toasting the corrupt thief and liar Arafat, bestowing Noble prizes on him, he channeled money to his cronies and his bank accounts abroad. While the money kept flowing, nothing was done domestically, hospitals and schools not built, civil institutions never established. Of course there were plenty of militias (9 to be exact) with Arafat`s buddies running them. When the money stopped flowing as Europeans figured out the scam, Arafat declared "intifada" and blamed Israsel. What a cunning crook taking European suckers for a ride, I am sure they`ve enjoyed it. Arafat never had intentions of running a country, that would mean the end of his and his cronies` corruption. Hamas is doing the same but now they are fighting over the pot with Fatah, just like two street gangs that they are.

There are always those who break the law on both sides of the issue. There are IDF soldiers and settlers who occasionally harrass Palestinians, no doubt, but....the big difference is that they are arrested, punished and publically condemned. This is completely different from sending suicide bomers to blow up mothers and their toddlers in pizzerias, teenagers in discos and elderly in a hotel. The animals who do that are celebrated and revered as "martyrs" by the twisted fanatics who hate Israelis more than they love their children. That`s what terrorism is and why it can never be justified. The act itself is anti-human and speaks of the ideological sickness of the those twisting Islam to justify their acts.

Israeli Definition - Arab who massacres Israeli Jews in order to put pressure on the Israeli government (It doesn't matter whether the Israeli Jews are civilians or not.) Neocon & Bush Definition - Arab who massacres Americans or Israelis to put pressure on their respective governments (Groups like Kach, Kahane Chai, IRA, Tamal Tigers, etc. don't count.) Everyone Else's Defintion - One who massacres civilians in order to put pressure on a government, regardless of race, religion, ethnicity or nationality

"Haniyeh aide Ghazi Hamad said Olmert's statements were 'confused and irresponsible.'" In his rush, he forgot to deny it...so it is credible!!!

There can be no peace with Hamas. Then just do a unilateral withdrawl with no return of refugees. Then seal the borders. If they attack then bomb them heavily. The same goes for Hezbollah. Give them the silly farms with a strong warning - meaning terrorism = carpet bombing.

How about that. And what are Olmert and his current and predecessor gangs have been doing in the last 60 or more years. Where should we start? From the Irgun, or Lehi, or maybe the Stern gang; let us not forget the Hagana all the way to the so called IDF. Or maybe Shmir who killed the peace envoy. No, No Shamir was a small fish. Maybe we should talk about Begen and Dair Yasin, Or Ben Gurion and Kufr Qasem. How about Sharon and Um Qibia, or Sabra and Shatila. It takes volumes of books to describe the Zionist Crimes. Again, it takes one to know one.

...that Olmert is the guy who described Hezbollah's kidnapping of two Israeli soldiers as an act of war against Israel committed by the entire state of Lebanon. Olmert should read the story of the Little Boy who cried Wolf.

just silly again

what about olmert who murdered 1300 lebanese civilians and over 600 palestinians for three soldiers? is he a saint? what about sharoon, begin,rabin,and the rest of the killers list ?logic costs courage which a vast majority of this "civilized " world never experienced. it is a tragidy but we have to deal with it.

The Stern Gang,Irgun and Etzel were the original Hippies spreading peace and love with Flower Power,terrorist never..yeah right. Listen to there leaders,and they will tell you what plan they had in mind for Palestine and the Palestinian people. Theodor Herzl (founder of Zionism) Ahad Ha'am (Zionist Leader) "In internal discussion in 1938,[David Ben-Gurion]stated that 'after we become a strong force,as a result of the creation of a state, we shall abolish partition and expand to the whole of Palestine...The state will only be a stage in the realization of Zionism and its task is to prepare the ground for our expansion into the whole of Palestine.'...In 1948,Menahem Begin declared that: 'The partition of the Home land is illegal.It will never be regonised.The signature of institutions and individuals of the partition agreement is invalid. It will not bind the Jewish people.Jerusalem was and will forever be our Capital.Eretz Israel will be restored to the people of Israel.All of it.

Harnad, whoever he is, is right on. Olmert knows the 'coalition' against Hamas is crumbling; the arabs are calling his bluff and getting louder by the day with their peace offerings; and the world has finally caught on to your lies and talking the talk but not walking the walk. Time to pay the piper.

The Stern Gang were also the first practitioners of the car bomb which was effectively used to terrorise the Palestinian villagers,in addition to the Zionist terrorists who drove the villagers at gunpoint,firebombs and grenades thrown into the villagers' homes.The ethnic cleansing of Palestine was a deliberate premeditated plan carried out ruthlessly and efficiently by the Zionist leaadership. They were carrying on the legacy of the founders of Zionism,notably the Austrian Jew,author of Der Judenstaat(1896) who openly proclaimed the racist doctrine that the indigenous population of the Zionist State should be annihilated.Modern Israel has continued this to this day.

cristina if I thought it had the slightest possibility of happening I would tell you to advise Chanah S to read benny morrise,s "Righteous Victim,s ( hardly Pro Arab),pages 254 to 257 ought to be enough to get the jist of exactly how "Peaceful and sidelined"these criminals were.

Guys, Gals.... Can't you see what's happening? Israel needs more time to expel, torture, impoverish, confiscate land, and obfuscate reality. Isn't it remarkable how there never is a "Palestinian partner"? Amazing. Arafat was a terrorist, Abbas was too weak (but not necessarily a terrorist), Haniyeh is a terrorist, Barghouti is a terrorist (in jail). The Palestinian leasdership has been assassinated, imprisoned or sidelined. All this in order to delay in hopes that they won't need to withdraw and allow the Palestinians to finally be free.

this is a song broadcast on hamas radio station: al qassam warriors, rain rockets on the settlers!don't let any jew sleep!the al-aqsa brigades will make you tremble in haifa and tel aviv; they will strike you in safed and acre.because we do not distinguish between jewish palestine and arab palestine.... ....................we will not rest and will not abandon the path of jihad and martyrdom as long as one inch of our land remained in the hand of the jews................

Cristina here are some examples of the so called "Men of Peace of Irgun and Stern" They were ready to do anything, anywhere. They blew up the British Embassy in Rome. They dispatched "Letter Bombs"to British Ministers.and one addressed to Major Farran killed his brother instead.They sent an assssination squad into Britain , with the mission --which was not accomplished of killing the former commanding officer of Palestine, General Evelyn Barker,it,s members included Weizman,s own nephew,Ezer Weizmann.they planned to sink a british passenger ship in Shanghai. In Palestine they killed soldiers in their sleep. They captured and flogged officers : then they hanged two Sergeants from a tree and booby trapped their bodies.Etc etc.. How many things do we not know about. Source for this is "The Gun and The Olive Branch"By David Hirst. But of course there were no terrorists in Israel,s Pristine history--Right. See the blatant "Hypocracy" with which these apologists try to spin the trut

although much is heard about the PLIGHT OF THE PALESTINIANS REFUGEES,little is said about the JEWS who fled from ARAB STATES.their situation had long been precarious. the number of JEWS fleeing ARABS COUNTRIES for ISRAEL in the years following ISRAEL'S INDEPENDENCE was nearly double the number of arabs leaving palestine.many jews were allowed to take little more than the shirts on their backs.these refugees had no desire to repatriated. little is heard about them because they did not remain refugees for long.of the 820,000 JEW REFUGEES between 1948 and 1972, 586,000 were resettled in israel at great expense, and without any offer of compensation from the ARAB GOVERNMENTS who confiscated their possessions.most jewish refugees traveled hundreds-and some traveled thousands-of miles to a tiny country whose inhabitants spoke a different language.most arab refugees never left palestine at all;remaining inside the vast arab nation that they were partoflinguistically ,culturally, ethnically.

Cristina here are some examples of the so called "M

they were integral part of the plan to eradicate all palestinins from the future jewish state.u must have seen movies like "o jerusalem" or read reconstructed history books in which the stern gang (responsible for disimbowelling and raping women in deir yassin) were represented as out of touch from the mainstream israeli army. In reality the jewish terror groups were essential part in creating the horror that later made palestinians run in fear of their lives (I hope u dont still believe the lie of the arab radios telling palestinians to leave). Of course there were jews who found that horrible, but at the end they voted for them anyway.

....is a terrorist then Ehud Olmert is also a terrorist. Both men must be equally judged and Olmert has far more innocent blood on his hands than Haniyeh.

You made some good analysis.

...if a terrorist like begin or a war criminal like sharon can become PM respected by world leaders even if they are responsible for the massacre of thousand of civilians, so same chance should be given to hanyieh. Double standards again?

Lynn invokes the past only when it suits her agenda. cristina, dont you get it you are not allowed restrospective selectivity.

Just shows you how sidelined were those Jews who used terror tactics by maintstream Israel at the time. However, terrorist Haniye happened to be in the eleceted Leader of the Palestinians, their favorite choice, as was Arafat - the mother of all terorists. You all know what they do to those who oppose them? SO you should quit drawing irrelevant comparisons, stop patting yourselves on your backs and wipe those smug grins off your faces.

I'm still shocked anything Olmert has to say is being reported on. At 3% approval, Olmert wishes he can have Haniyeh approval numbers. 3%? Is that unheard of or what? I'm assuming those 3% are Olmert's relatives but I question whether his family hasn't disowned him by now. Well said and spoken from the heavens as the truth and nothing but the truth:" Hamad brushed aside Olmert's comments in Time. "It seems that the Arab and international support for the unity government has provoked and angered Olmert, and has pushed him to take a confused and irresponsible position," he said. "The terrorist is the one who kills children, raids villages and [refugee] camps, builds settlements and confiscates the land. It is not Ismail Haniyeh."

Terrorist. Remember Lebanon not to mention how many Dead Innocent Palestinians this War Criminal is responsible for.Makes me wanna puke.

I'm still shocked anything Olmert has to say is being reported on. At 3% approval, Olmert wishes he can have Haniyeh approval numbers. 3%? Is that unheard of or what? I'm assuming those 3% are Olmert's relatives but I question whether his family hasn't disowned him by now. Well said and spoken from the heavens as the truth and nothing but the truth:" Hamad brushed aside Olmert's comments in Time. "It seems that the Arab and international support for the unity government has provoked and angered Olmert, and has pushed him to take a confused and irresponsible position," he said. "The terrorist is the one who kills children, raids villages and [refugee] camps, builds settlements and confiscates the land. It is not Ismail Haniyeh."

what difference does it make then was then it is now. Try to figure it out, my dear. What is happening NOW is the important thing. AND, as of NOW it is MUSLIMS blowing up all sorts of things, buildings, and people in lots of countries. Oh, yes, and asassinations too. So, give it a rest.

It looks like the tactic of blowing up civilians was introduced in the ME by the stern gang as an instrument to ethnic cleansing the palestinians out of their land. Seems that stern gang was not to bothered if jewish people were also blown up along with palestinians.

When Israel and the Palestinians were offered a state in 47 they accepted it and the Palestinians chose terror and war. The PLO, the first modern terrorist movement was born long before Israel captured the west bank and Gaza. So it has nothing to do with land. Listen to there leaders not me. Hamas is no different from Fatah other than the fact that at least Hamas is honest. Name one civilzed Arab nation, not one. not a single one. Why?

How many innocent palestinians has Olmert's administration killed (including that of Sharon's since he essentially took over his party) compared to how many Israelis have been killed by the Hamas

The interview and piece are by Joe Klein. No one in the United States cares about what Joe writes because he is a fool and this is just more B.S. from a magazine in it's final death spiral. Come on Olmert you are not Sharon and everyone is laughing at you including HAMAS.

Israel is a state of terror same as Hamas. So before talking about Hamas terrorism, stop your terror first then deal with Hamas. By occupying the land of the west bank and Gaza is the source of terror not in Palestine, but in the entire world. You have been accusing the Pals for terrorism, ok, have you ever withdrawn to the green lines boarders? NO. You have built settlements in the west bank (almost in everwhere and now you say there are facts on teh ground, we cant go back to the 1967 boarders, what the hell???????????/ Then you dont want to admit that there are a refugees problems! Well there is a refugees problems and no one can deny that, what the arabs are saying "we need a fair solution to the refugees problem" no one said the solution would be for them to retutn to Israel. You guys are being such negative part one the Middle East System and unfurtunaitly, the silly BUSH Administration is beleiving your lies. But look, your negative position will only lead you to more bloodshed.

abbas is the "moderate", and he wrote his college thesis on debunking the Holicost. They ALL we to kill the jews, some are just more clever about how they deal with the west. They come from a miserable, violent culture of death and hate. It will take at least 3 generations to civilize the Arab culture. We will all have to deal with their terrorism for decades to come

I just read an article on the independent that teddy kollek in 1940 tried to get members of the terrorist jewish group irgut and stern brigades arrested because he despised their terrorist acts. Some of the terrorists he wanted to get were menachem begin and olmert father. So if begin became prime minister and now olmert (who never criticized his father) is a PM maybe haniyeh is in the right place.

Jerusalem mayor spied on terrorists for MI5 By Donald Macintyre in Jerusalem Published: 30 March 2007 Teddy Kollek, famous as Jerusalem's mayor for almost 25 years, actively helped the British crack down on right-wing Jewish underground groups in the 1940s, recently released MI5 documents reveal. Mr Kollek, who died three months ago, supplied British intelligence with vital information about the Irgun, led by the future Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin, the documents show. The revelation that the mayor was among those assisting the British to contain the right-wing groups - described by their Jewish opponents as well as the British authorities at the time as "terrorists" - came in yesterday's issue of the daily Yedhiot Ahronot. news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article2405126.ece

every leader the israeli's have had has been a killer/terrorist. he's using this word for his own gain. when most of the leaders (bush/blair) can wear it as well as olmert.

You have got to be kidding! As i recall from reading alittle history it was Muslims & Arabs that expelled Jews from their countries when Israel became a state in 1948. Also wasn't it Muslims & Arabs who have been trying since then to remove the nation of Israel from the face of the Earth only to get embarrassed time and time again. It must be so cold in Frostbite Falls that it makes your brain break. WOW!

Seems to me that calling the leader of a terrorist organization a terrorist, is just common sense. Hamas CLAIMS

This is news?

It can't be because he's one of the heads of a TERRORIST ORGANIZATION called Hamas. But don't be surprised to be called an idiot for this statement PM Olmert, even if it is true.

Besides being absolutely as corrupt as they come, Olmert, like nearly all Israeli PM's to date, is a terrorist himself and in no position to point fingers at others. There is a reason Israel has always opposed defining what is or is not a terrorist, because by defining what constitutes terrorism, Israel's entire sordid history is exposed as nothing but a series of terrrorist acts used to occupy and ethnically cleanse an entire race of people from their homeland. Olmert would be wise to keep his trap shut.

Hanniye was a terrorist and stayed a terrorist!

Palestinian government is headed by an active terrorist who belongs to the terror gang called Hamas. Its goal is the annihilation of Israel, and its methods are the terrorizing of Israel's civilian population through mass murders. This is Mr. Haniyah, the PA prime minster, the terrorst.

The Pope is Catholic too.