Olmert spokesman says Israel taking bin Laden threats seriously

As does blindness. After all, who is it that causes blindness, and who is it that opens the eyes? Who is it that allows deception? Why? I don't know, I don't fully understand. I know this: God can be found by seeking. So, "But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and HIS righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you." Matthew 6:33 And remember, the Kingdom of God is within you. And to quote A Christmas Carole... "God Bless Us, Everyone"

He was there in the beginning, before the world was, was the Word. Messiah was the Word of God incarnate, for which we have ALL been created. God is Spirit, we were created to be His expression, His reflection. LIVE THE WORD. Is this not where the three major faiths find union? In their desire to Live the Word according to their own understanding? We must seek to Live it by God's Wisdom and not our own. His "thoughts are higher than our thoughts, His ways higher than our ways". We must seek His help and guidence, ask, ask, ask. Stand ready for HIS answer; it may not be your own.

Stuffed and mounted in the Smithsonian Museum. Sorry this one not so gross. There are only so many bodily functions. A few of them too gross even for Israel. But yeah. I could see him displayed like men were in Planet of the Apes. Maybe even Al-Zawahiri and Goat Boy alongside him? Uhhh? What could we post below these dead guys? Let's see...? Gadahn knows Spanish so this will be fun. Los Pendejos Sin Huevos? Los Mulas? Los Tres Mierdas Pequenas? I could go on, but I gotta get out of here!

A Loving family is a beautiful thing in the presence of the Lord. And the happiness it brings Him is incredibly penetrating to the very center of heart and soul!!! Being in the midst of it is like being in Heaven on Earth! Loving God, Loving one another...This is what matters most.

Bin Laden, if you are alive and to all who believe as OBL, I hope you are hearing this. I am of the belief that no one desires to be deceived. And that even the deceived desire to Live according to the Will of God. (This is why the deceiver attempts to make them believe his will is the Will of our Creator) The whole foundation upon which Islam stands is that the Jews (God's Chosen to reveal His Word), rejected Messiah and as a result God's "final word" was established through Islam via the Prophet Mohammed. All Jews did NOT reject Messiah then and All Jews do not reject Messiah now. This TRUTH obliterartes the very foundation upon which Islam stands. REPENT. There is only ONE Creator. Our Creator is the same now as He was from the beginning. His Word, His Love and His Mercy endures forever!!! It is an AMAZING experience to worship God as equals according the the Word of Messiah (God) with Jews, Arabs and others together in perfect union!!! And it is happening worldwide.

as recorded by the Jews: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning." John 1:1-2 "The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth." John 1:14 The "Prophet" Mohammed, who attempted to use many of the Words of Christ to obtain His Glory for the Muslim people, will never suceed. As God's Glory cannot be stolen by ANY. Read the whole Chapter of John 1, find out who Christ truly was according to the Jewish witnesses to the Truth about Him.

Hubal Whenever you put out responses they are far too long,and to give them merit by reading them is too time consuming.(much like Tosefta?s)You also seem to emulate his style by telling some(me in this instance)to read carefully. You also ask me to concentrate and try to imagine being a student of the Law. Sorry I do not see responses in that light.,and am not interested in legalese. My favourite subjects are in the sphere of history which is?Ancient ? China, Greece and the Roman periods all. Apart from the ME and particularly where The Holy Land and Jews are concerned that is where my interests lay. If you respond in a somewhat shorter version ,then most of us would give merit,or otherwise accordingly. Wishing you a Happy 2008 P/S Haaretz this is for Hubal # 469 put out please

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! You do tickle me at times :) "I am the only hope for Islam!" Kidding aside, you don't know how right you are! Peace to you in 2008.

acknowledge that your OWN sin was a part of why Christ "GAVE HIS LIFE", I am afraid even the pharisees (who were a visual of extremists of the Law over Love), even the pharisees righteousness will exceed yours. Perhaps you know what Christ says about that? "For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven." Matthew 5:20 I suppose the Christ you know did not say from the cross, "Father forgive them, they know not what they do." (a beautiful visual of Love over Law!) Perhaps you're an advocate of eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth - "Blood for blood and destruction for destruction" All I can say to you is; Live by it, die by it. And see if your Maker will not render to you the same, according to the measure you use. Yah, Our God is a just God.

Jan'1st 2008 Hubal Whenever you put out responses they are far too long,and to give them merit by reading them is too time consuming.(much like Tosefta?s)You also seem to emulate his style by telling some(me in this instance)to read carefully. You also ask me to concentrate and try to imagine being a student of the Law. Sorry I do not see responses in that light.,and am not interested in legalese. My favourite subjects are in the sphere of history which is?Ancient ? China, Greece and the Roman periods all. Apart from the ME and particularly where The Holy Land and Jews are concerned that is where my interests lay. If you respond in a somewhat shorter version ,then most of us would give merit,or otherwise accordingly. Wishing you a Happy 2008 P/S Haaretz this is for Hubal # 469 put out please

peter, i do NOT like, condone, nor in any way support or agree with al-qaidas ideas, it is israel and america together as one that has either directly or in israels case indirectly that is causing all this mess, how you might ask? well peter, i'll explain it this way, lets say there is a war, and you found an army of whatever sort , and you supported them and said " your our new buddy, and we'll back you all the way", suddenly, you deserted them in a war, how do YOU think they are going to react?, this example is the case for america and al-qaida, and thats just one enemy america has created, and peter, i agree 100% that arabs are also accountable for SOME ACTIONS, but not all caused by an effect of one country.your either blind or your jewish ( a bad one that is ).

That's not a beard. Those are petrified boogers shaped to look like a beard.

Just Kidding! Happy New Year!

A Resuscitation Dummy for Lepers.

I'll be so funny that I'll make you people wish you never could read. My words will make Jews laugh so hard that their farts will replace the Ozone Layer. You'll see!

Own work for sure.I just introduced it here for reference for anyone who may have been have an iterest in the subject. As you see I also put out the very relevant one in#474 sraight from the U.K on Pakistan's problem with the fundemetal crazy mullahs Let us hope things may prove more progresive rather than regressing further into the abyss.. Wishing you a Happy "2008" with peace and good will toward the world,particularly for Israel WHO'S IS MY LOVE... P/S Haaretz plp this is for Cipora..

...for sure in Israel as well. Al-Qaida's strive on moronic/arabic/suiciders. If there is no arabic garbage anywhere in Israel there surely will never be any Qaida's plague at the very least in Isreal...

you love the pharisee who murdered christ you will burn with them

Thank you very much for your post, and the excerpt. I hope that you are right about the bad guy, but as what you sent shows, the groups no longer depend on him. I hope that 2008 will be a better year for those who are fighting on the various fronts for our democracy, and for Israel. My very best regards, Cipora

Good old U.K. withdraws from Basra so as to give Iranian fanatics more than what they gained in 8 year war against Iraq ? Unfortunately for Bin Laden, he will die long before his pipe dream of an Islamist world is realized. It just "ain't going to happen" !

From good old U.K From the Sun (UK): December A FANATICAL Pakistani cleric told The Sun yesterday of his chilling dream to turn the world Muslim ? by force if necessary. Qari Hifzur Rehamn, 60, spoke openly of imposing Islamic law?s stoning and beheading on Britain ? as Pakistan was rocked by unrest over the assassination of Benazir Bhutto. He warned: ?We want Islamic law for all Pakistan and then the world. ?We would like to do this by preaching. But if not then we would use force.? Rehamn, 60, spoke in the Pakistani town of Kahuta as the call to prayer echoed over the dusty streets. He is Imam of the town?s fundamentalist religious school or madrassa, where classes for kids as young as nine include Jihad or Holy War and barbaric punishments. His teachings are frightening enough. But his mosque lies in the shadow of the secret bunker where Pakistan produces nuclear weapons. And when asked if it would be right to nuke British infidels, he laughed and answered: ?Probably.? Rehamn, in a flowing grey beard and turban, explained Islamic, or Sharia Law as we sat surrounded by some of his 250 students. He said: ?Adulterers who are married should be buried in earth to the waist and stoned to death. ?Homosexuals must be killed ? it?s the only way to stop them spreading. It should be by beheading or stoning, which the general public can do. ?Thieves should have their hands cut off. Women should remain indoors and films and pop music should be banned.? So what does he think of Britain? The dad insisted: ?The nonbelievers must be converted to Islam. Morals in your society, with women wearing revealing clothes, have gone wrong. And here we thought there was no compulsion in Islam.

The trick is to think of something that would be offensive to everybody. It's even better if you are able to write something so offensive that you even offend yourself. At that point, it's probably a good joke. Just offending everybody is okay but offending everyone, including yourself is better. Yo!

I agree, Israel will hunt you down unlike Bush and his intellectual idiots who negotiate with terrorists. Leaders of the Taliban even visited Texas when Bush was governor there. There has to have been a deal to spare their top leadership after 9/11. There have been many accounts published where Mullah Omar was hiding in a specific building south of Kabul that went untouched because of a deal from Bush.

Hello Dr. Dave: I accept the moon landing and ground zero, I think OJ killed Nicole, I believe the bibles were written, and I honestly feel that Israel kills Palestinians unjustly and illegally in the occupied territory of the West Bank and the beseiged territory of Gaza. Of course I never saw it, but I believe it.

"O,oh, Yossy showed up after 420 posts about Bin Laden. Are you a Bin Laden lover right now?" Naw! I was just waiting for the right moment to launch my counter offensive against Bin Laden, Al-Zawahiri, and Goat Boy Gadahn on Haaretz. It's not that easy to come up with a good joke. These ideas do not just appear that easily as you well know, you being my Muslim, counterpart.

Hubal What you had forgotten in your long epistle is that prior to the Americans,the French had a long war and struggle at "Dien Bien Phu". KATHY In my epistle was the following: "Ho(Chi Minh) had built the Viet Minh into the only Vietnam-wide political organization capable of effective resistance to either the JAPANESE or the FRENCH." and then "he overthrew the JAPANESE . . . established the Democratic Republic of Vietnam" So I noted events that occurred even earlier than the French colonialists! You must try and concentrate when reading my posts Kathy. Just try and imagine being a student of the Law. The devil's in the detail!! Ponder awhile if you don`t mind... ;)

Danite hello As I said above.My response welcoming you back Haaretz did not put out.Hope this one does. Wishing you a HAPPY NEW YEAR OF 2008 WITH PEACE FOR ISRAEL AND OUR PEOPLE. 2)Labharass:Did you expect anything better from his likes?Now he is now resorted to besmirching the good Mr.Wiesenthal. He is nothing but a low life..Best to ignore his him.

And presumably know why I said the above. Nuff said..

This is why God has set Israel apart? Because "Salvation [the Word of God] is of the Jews"? And for this we should show our gratitude? Just a thought, Selah.

"Love to the US (where I live) and ALL the world?" Because, I set Israel apart, as it is through Israel (the Children of Jacob) that I have come to know God. Knowing God is knowing that it doesn't matter where I live, God is with me. Hallelu Yah!!!!! Gotta go......

Thy Kingdom come, THY Will be done. Blessing and Love (Your very nature) upon all Your Kingdom!!! Come our Mighty King, who rules with Wisdom, Power, Mercy and Love.

for listening.

For the asking. Take this hate from me Lord, I don't want it to be a part of who "I am". Amen!

IT WAS AN INSIDE JOB.IT WAS PERPETRATED INSIDE PLANES HIJAKED BY MOSLEMS

With ALL Glory to God in the Highest!!!

denounce the hate and nourish the Love within them!!! These will find God. HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!! May this be the one that: "They will neither harm nor destroy on all my holy mountain, for the earth will be full of the knowledge of the LORD as the waters cover the sea." Isaiah 11:9

Thank you very much for your good wishes. I wish you, too, a very happy and healthy 2008. Regards, Cipora

TO CIPORA,KLAUDIA,MARGIE,MAYA,PETER SM HARDMAN & a host of ISRAEL supporters for the support of ISRAEL,I wish you all A VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR, A GOOD YEAR & a PROSPEROUS YEAR. May GOD BLESS US ALL. (by the way I sent a long greeting post to all,but it was not printed.On 30/31.12.07.)

Have you heard about the Yad Vashem Holocaust Memorial and Museum in Jerusalem, Israel ? Could you get a visa to visit that place ? Mark Twain once said that travel is the fiercest enemy of all prejudice.

"Mankind needs to unite to face global environmental threats that affect everyone." -Sure, after letting GB test atomic and thermonuclear bombs on your "environmentally friendly" land. There is no salvation for such hypocrites and Jew haters. Israel not only lives but flourishes. Eat your Av 10 ,3830 "Namesake" until it consumes your mind.

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Av 10, 3830 in the Hebrew calendar used for a "Name:"

Reverend Bin Laden may be looking dangerous but he is only a sick indicator of the threat rather than being a threat himself. He should be respected, his physical needs supplied and his concerns gauged. The world might be saved by taking the message from this messenger of destruction seriously. He seems to be in possession and desperately in need of healing. Surely he can not be personal embodiment of the evil for whom there is no healing! What a liberation it would be for his soul in captivity!!

There's really no need for conflict between "Palestinians" and Jews. If all the Arab-Israelis would settle down, educate themselves, and behave themselves, could they not, in a few years, be a large enough majority to win a good portion of the Knesset seats and then make laws more favorable to their people?

Mufti al-Husseini, not of the Saudi Arabian Osama bin Laden jihadist. The Mufti had caused more murder of Jews, by order of magnitudes. And was never brought to face justice. Arafat was a close relative of his and a close student.

with just a PG Rating? I'll think of something.

as a perpetrator of mass murder in the Jewish history. More from the Wikipedia pointer courtesy of Rob, (Ann Arbor): "There is an exhibit area in the Yad Vashem Holocaust Museum in Jerusalem, Israel, specific for the activities and the person of the Grand Mufti al-Husseini. His leadership and activities directly connect the Arab leadership in British Mandate Palestine to the Shoah of the Jews of Europe during the 2nd World War. Also, an online search ("Mufti") of some of the Yad Vashem material is available: http://www1.yadvashem.org/search/index_search.html "

Bin Laden is dangerous terrorist where ever he is.He should be answered back correctly if he is expanding his terrorist network.

you should be able to translate what it means with a little bit of effort.

You read about the "movement" (as we called it) against the war in Vietnam. Well, I was there - in the heart of the movement, the guys marching with the NLF flag. I'm not saying that the war wasn't a terrible waste for the people of the US and a tragedy for the Vietnamese people. I'm saying that perhaps it didn't have to be that way, and that, to a great extent that me and Dutch and a bunch of other self-righteous people are part of the reason that it turned out the way it did. "The boat people you speak of were exercising their rights to disagree, after that nation was ravaged by 2 decades of unremitting war." Actually it was three decades. You seem to forget the fact that the Japanese Imperial army ravaging Vietnam in the 40s. You are very generous that you give them a "right to disagree" (or right to flee?) rather than to be interned in a "re-education" camp. Somehow, I think that that "right to disagree" would have been better granted had they been allowed to board a ship or a plane, rather than taking their lives into their own hands on un-seaworthy tubs. You obviously don't remember what those people went through to get out. I do. And then most of them "were from the middle classes and amongst the minority". (You're not middle class? Or urban? Or in a political minority? Hey Hubal?) I see. That makes them guilty enough to give up their own lives at sea rather than to possibly give up their lives in a government camp. Boy Hubal, it's a shame that you weren?t around 80 years ago to write propaganda for Stalin when he gave the kulaks what he thought they deserved! I think you ought to re-examine your definition of a "spiteful criminal mind".

If Mark Regev was serious about preventing Bin Ladens threats then Olmert and Barak would go into the Gaza Reservation and Terrorist Preserve and root out all Hamas and Islamic Jihad figters even tho they really are terrorist. The sad truth is this Government under Olmert is a joke. The sooner Olmert and company resign or new elections held Israel will be alot better off.

What a joke. Israel is taking a threat from a DEAD guy, SERIOUSLY! Bin Laden is dead, accept the fact that the various "democracies" need this guy to remain 'alive". It means that they can do as they want and have him to blame. This is a very simple concept, please try to master it. In an interview with David Frost (2/11/07), Bhutto stated that Bin Laden had been murdered. Surely this "great fighter for democracy" is not telling lies, if so WHY? Plus, just for the record, Bin Laden is NOT held accountable for 9/11, according to his file at the FBI, go read it!

410Lahbras Per your request just sent my answer to dog. Quoting you: Go talk to your dog.

"as an indian i know very well the mind-set of ravi and lakshmi.we indians have a complex and a burden we are unable to jettison.the colonial narrative and british rule in india(glorious i may add) has made us hate the white man..."- guru nanak - you're not Indian. But a Jew masquerading as an Indian. So sad, India is an ally of Israel.

409,410 From the Grand Mufti's own Memoirs: In his memoirs after the war, Husayni noted that "Our fundamental condition for cooperating with Germany was a free hand to eradicate every last Jew from Palestine and the Arab world. I asked Hitler for an explicit undertaking to allow us to solve the Jewish problem in a manner befitting our national and racial aspirations and according to the scientific methods innovated by Germany in the handling of its Jews. The answer I got was: 'The Jews are yours'.'[36] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amin_al-Husayni

The closer bin laden and his al quaida get to israel the more miserablew the palestinian lives will be. Bin laden offers nothing but misery to everyone and everything around him,. He is a scourge, he is aids, he is cancer, he is smallpox, Bin laden is diahhea to all the land he touches

So now wiesenthal is not be trusted??? it seems that truth and lies fluctuate with you according to the effect it has on your pets.

Dear editor. Rob 412 wishes to censor me but gives no reason. Can we censor out extreme religion and religious missionaries? Listening to Virginia is a bid like listening to a Muslim saying that there is no mental illness or homosexuallity in Islam. It is religious rot and obfuscates the real issues of power, justice, resources etc. Virginia 407, are all Christians happy, or just happy clappers? Any discussion of whose imaginary god is the most real is irrelevant to the realities of life on this planet. Mankind needs to unite to face global environmental threats that affect everyone. This means we have to talk to our antagonists and resolve our differences. As impossible as it seems, it has to be done or hell will be on Earth, not in peoples imagination.

Try this on for size,"Waxen tzenen in tuchus zol du kenst kayen drecht" You like?

Osama Bin Laden is in the payroll of the Mossad, since this agency give all the necessary details of how to carry out the attacks of 09/11/2001. In fact, the Mossad and the CIA are the master minders behind this event and Bin Lade is only the smokescreen or scapegoat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m2OzEvyrsw Arabists here may not like it but there it is.

To find the truth do a google search on Sabra and Shatilla, also 1948 Israel. Once you know the truth you will understand. Ariel Sharon was dismissed from the Israeli army for Sabra and Shatilla. Read the Israeli gvmt's account of what happened. In case you don't know, he was wanted in the Hague for war crimes until the for some mysterious reason this was recinded. If this had been done to the Israelis, I'm sure we would have seen many films about this. John Pilger made a documentary on this, it was never shown in the United States? With the Internet the lid has come off and the truth is there for all to see. I don't agree with Bin Laden but while watching Live TV on 9/11 I said this was the doing of Bin Laden because of the Palestinian Holocaust.

it gives it lots of excuses to beat up on the Palestinians under the pretext of 'security'.

A wall mounted Beer Bottle Opener that says "I'd rather have a Butt Light" when you open up a fizzy. More to come. I will be merciless!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arG6N46CbmY&feature=related No doubts at all.

The Stern gang etc were neither the leadership nor had any say in Yishuv policy. The Hagganah actually fought against them politically and militarilly. The medals were given for fighting the British military after the war against the Nazis and their allies was over,not for targetting civillians as Arab/Pal Jihadists do everywhere to this very day. Likud took many years to reach office there never was a "Stern" or "Lehi" party .Arafat with his FATAH became instant life President. For good measure now the Pals elected Hamas with their OFFICIAL Islamist racist ethnic cleansing policies known to everybody except the likes of you

I'm confused - you accept photos as evidence that Israel mistreats arabs - but regect video showing Bin Laden alive. Was the video of the U.S. moon landins faked? Did ground zero realy occur? Did OJ kill his wife? Are any of the bibles real? We can keep going - but at one point we must decide what we accept on faith - even if we never witnesed something

occupation in the Palestinian territories? You can't occupy something that never existed. By the way twas born in the U.S.A. - this way you can complain to me about both " Devils " at the same time

The closest thing to Al Qaida would probably be Islamic Jihad, however, Fatah is a secular party, Hizbollah is a Shia party (Al Qaida does not accept Shia'ism). Hamas is an Islamic party dedicated to establishing an Islamic republic in PALESTINE, not Europe, not the west, etc. Get some brains.

Speaking of deceit, why don't you admit the fact that Jews only constituted at most 5 percent of the population of Israel/Palestine prior to the 20th century until Zionism was invented? Even British Census's as were done in 1931 after tons of Jewish migrations to Palestine showed how slim they accounted for. Relax sis, you're all the new kids on the block. We are Palestinians because we are the Arabs who have had numerous generations in the past residing between the sea to the Jordan River. Do not pull this drama just because many of the Jews now residing in Israel originally had families living in Europe prior to 1948.

This is the point I am making, to say that the Mufti was part of European actions, does not show wide spread Palestinian anti-Semitism nor does it prove support for the Holocaust among his constituency outside of their own political elements. Nor does it prove causal, as the Holocaust would have happened with or without the Mufti. In order to prove that you need to prove not only that the Mufti was there, but Palestinians knew he was there, what he was supporting and supported him for that reason and no other. If not, you only prove HE was a bigot, you don't prove anything broader. Conflation of the 2 leads to anomalies. If Palestinians wanted to kill all Jews, why so few recruits? Why did the Mukhtar of Deir Yassin lose a member of his family in the process of driving out the ALA days before the massacre, because of his commitment to the agreement with the Givaut Shaul? The Governor of Lydda refused to let the ALA take Ben Shemen. Why if they just wanted to kill Jews?

O,oh, Yossy showed up after 420 posts about Bin Laden. Are you a Bin Laden lover right now?

I'll check copyright issues but I don't think anyone has done this yet. My next project if it's a go.

Sometimes truth does that.

Another Israeli government conspiracy against her nation and for the benefit of British Empire and oil companies and this conflicts will continues at list for one more century The life of Israeli is not important for the mafias that have power in Israel. What is important that to follow the British policy that have plant century ago Haaretz if you are not part of British Empire that let my post will be publish

From what I have gathered over the years, OBL wants two things. One, to get the infidel (US) out of the holy land and the middle east and two, justice for the Palestinians. I don?t like OBL's methods but agree with his aims. I also agree with a mandated Israel. Jerusalem should become an international city with the UN headquartered there. As long as there is fundamentalism three religions cannot claim a city, so that city should be internationalised. Compensation should be from major western powers, not Israel, as they caused the Palestinian displacement via the UN. Now OBL calls for the complete destruction of Israel and the driving out of the Jews (if authentic). Things are escalating because our side refuses to talk to our antagonists. Our supposed antagonists Syria and Iran are prepared to talk, but the US and Israel stubbornly refuses to talk to them. As Churchill said, ?Jaw, jaw is better than war, war.

Go to www.biblegateway.com, search the word judge and judgement. Pay particular attention to what Messiah has to say about it. It stands to reason, it makes sense. There are Aramaic version here, compare to the King James version.

Klaudia hello I said forget it for now(altough all you say) bears witness to what the Jihadists are perpetrating.We have almost become inured to the rantings that goes on. I am going to forget,if only for a litle while,and WISH YOU A HAPPY,HEALTHY AND PEACEFUL 2008 ...Keep well,and send you my love. As Ever your Friend who Values you Wisdom. God Bless And Keep You.

whats the point ? Every nation has a duty to protect her citizens. With palestinians, one never knows what to expect. Just becasue Israel is stronger, does not make her the guilty party. We have seen Pallywood-we all know about your lies and distortions

Documentions plus the photographs of the Mufti with Hitler,the Bosnians he recruted for his SS and not from Wikipedia but an equally reliable sourse.I cannot go now to my documents too late.Patience and all we'll be reavealed. Wishing you A happy 2008

Not to "we", only to you. "But we don`t know exactly which part of them of God`s words and which part of them are not." Would you like to know? There is a way. God wants to be known. Known by ALL. He is the ONLY way. Be sincere. Ask Him to show you. He will. Shut this world out, spend some time one on one in conversation with Him, let HIM lead you. No one else can convince you. He can. Faith is a "fruit of the Spirit", it comes from hearing. Listen to Him.

Islamic criminals. It was big mistake...

Palestinians for the Holocaust are just that.You are an idiot Rob.Nothing else.why dont you qoute Joan peters or Alan Dershowitz.They are about as credible as Weaselthal was. End of your dumb discussion.Go talk to your dog.

you are a liar using known lying websites to prove your lies how pathetic can you get?

Sir, So many boys without girls... A lot of testosterone and no available females. What else can they do to relieve tension. Poor boys... ps. very poor quality of video.

as much as I do, denounce their "superiotity" and understand, through the Word of God, all can share in the commonwealth of Israel. This does in no way remove them from their land, or establish God's courts in any other way than God has already established them. There is still far too much generalizing. We must learn to see others as individuals.

Bin laden died a long time ago, Al-qaida is a myth & a joke, most governments are aware of this, but for some raisons they want to keep the myth alive, I guess they have their raisons, I will say move on, get over it, come down to earth, peace;

You are not alone. The Dutch Dike and Tosefta seem to be protected treasures.

Thanks for the good wishes and let us all go from strength to strength together with our beloved Israel.

I CAN SEND YOU A VIDEO OF STALIN WITH A VOICE MAKE OVER TALKING ABOUT HIS TRIP TO VISIT CASTRO. I think Osama been Hiding is dust and/or in hell with his virgins. I guess evil never dies.

You will have to be just a tad more "impartial' than that.

*bin laden is now only cia/mossad op

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BTW It makes it easier for everybody to check things on wikipedia. Good luck with your other searched. UM Library is difficult now, as all its contents are being copied by Google...

"The Stern gang never represented more than the minority. PeterSM Well it seems they do now, as they give medals honouring these terrorists.Many future leaders---Begin and Shamir were members who offered to fight with the Nazis and you folks made leaders of them.Cut the hypocricy. Lehi Ribbon (Lohamei Herut Israel - Fighter for the Freedom of Israel) Awarded to: a) those who were members of Lehi for a period of at least six months between 1940 and the Day of Independence of Israel. b) all members of the Lehi who were killed, wounded, arrested or took part in operations. In case the eligible person died, a member of his family (husband, wife, parent, brother, sister, child or grandchild) may request to receive the ribbon or replacement of lost or worn ribbon. Presentation of the ribbon started in 1980.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0A20qGuVWo&eurl=http://sabbah.biz/mt/

...after both his 1993 and 2001 attacks on the Twin Towers, did not mention Israel ONCE in his claims of credit. His anger was directed at fat Arab rulers who profit from collusion with US (not that I have a problem with that). There would be no "Palestinian" issue today if British-ruled Trans-Jordan and British-ruled Egypt had not followed the dictates of their master and attacked Israel in 1948, under anti-Zionist pretext, but with the result that they grabbed for the Crown the Gaza and West Bank lands that were supposed to be the Arab State. For 19 years thereafter, these 2 Friends of Palestine continued to suck these lands dry, not making the slightest effort to allow independence (Britain vetoing several UN resulutions demanding this). Only after the '67 war, when these lands came under Israeli control, did Israel magically become the Obstacle to a Palestinian State. No honest Palestinian will tell you that Jordan (hmmm, what happened "trans"), Egypt and Bin Laden are "friends".

joooos really hate jesus freaks

In the end the answer has to be political and satisfactory to both sides otherwise the conflict continues later on eg WWI and WWII. The scary part is the level of debate and the bellicosity in what is supposedly a ?traitorous? left wing newspaper. Until you tone it down and start talking to your antagonists, life will suck in your part of the world except for those profiteering from conflict, both financially and politically.

The only blood Bin Laden and his group is shedding is Muslim blood from exploding bombs in mosques in Pakistan Afghanistan and Iraq. Dear Osama, just keep your destructive ideology in your cave, Palestine does not need it. Palestinians are proficient enough at killing each other without your help.

Go forward about 6 minutes into this video and watch for about 30 seconds. Bhutto says Binladen was murdered. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIO8B6fpFSQ

Why are you censoring my responses to Dutch the anti semite?

how does Abbas respond to this?? will he come out publically denoucning bin laden or do what arafat did when al qada attacked US and cheer in the sreets of gaza and WB?? i wonder who was trying to smuggle those exposives into gaza if it wasnt hamas. hmmm.

358Lahbrass. In 348 I gave reference. You left it out. Here it is again: Tosefta, Grand Mufti visited Death Camps, so he knew, approved. ?Hajj Amin Al Husseini (1895-1974) was the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem... He supported the Nazis, and especially their program for the mass murder of the Jews. He visited numerous death camps and encouraged Hitler to extend the "Final Solution" to the Jews of North Africa and Palestine. In 1946 he escaped to Egypt. [Simon Wiesenthal Center Web Site]

i tried with you but you are an arrogant biggoted little brat believe what you want zion is a lost cause because you refurse the truth

To you too dear The Teacher/Instruct! I loved the analogy of the water,and causes concentric circles,getting bigger & bigger so shall ISRAEL spread far & wide,going from strength to strength With GOD`s BLESSINGS. Absolutely WITH GOD'S BLESSINGS YES! I also liked the "King Canute"analogy.It brought back memories in reading historical passages. ISRAEL SHALL KEEP ON COMING & COMING till one day we shall find peace in Her Land,our beloved land OF ERETZ YISRAEL!! Be well,until we see you with us in a couple of days..I have missed you SO MUCH!! Your Friend.

Very astute observation. If you look at my post #219 I pointed this out to one of our resident academics. I guess that neither Cipora or Tosefta are able to debate day to day realities but prefer being mired in minutiae. The Left and the Leftist academia have their collective heads in the sand and can not or does not want to understand the political dynamics of the Islamofascists irrespective of what name they call themselves. I just hope that by the time the head comes out we do not find ourselves inflamed in a Third World WAR ,a war that will consume us all. The Leftist warmongers are bringing this upon us in an ever quickening pace.

i wasn't aware isrhel had declared any borders

I and my wife, children and grandchildren will be spending a quiet time together. I do not induldge unless I am at a wedding, Bar mitzva, bat mitzva or any other SIMCHA. Just enough to get happy. My wife and daughter both get drunk just from the fumes.

Howdy Labhras; The only viable solution to global Jihad is a military one. There is no point in negotiating with religious fanatics because they will not compromise. It's a kill or be killed situation brought about by Islamic extremism's own choice. Appeasement, accomodation, capitulation, or surrender may be your idea of a solution, but it isn't shared by those of us who have no intention of living under Sharia law and praying to Mecca five times a day. The U.S. tried the law-enforcement approach with global terrorism up until 2001. It is now a military issue and NATO agrees.

354Lahbras Read the recent studies and material. Recent Nazi documents uncovered in the German Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Military Archive Service in Freiburg [4] by two researchers, Klaus Michael Mallmann from Stuttgart University and Martin Cüppers from the University of Ludwigsburg, indicated that in the event of the British being defeated in Egypt by Generalfeldmarschall Erwin Rommel`s Afrika Korps the Nazis had planned to deploy a special unit called Einsatzkommando Ägypten to exterminate Palestinian Jews and that they wanted Arab support to prevent the emergence of a Jewish state. In their book the researchers concluded that, "the most important collaborator with the Nazis and an absolute Arab anti-Semite was Haj Amin al-Husseini, the mufti of Jerusalem."

The neutrality of this article is disputed. Please see the discussion on the talk page.(December 2007) Please do not remove this message until the dispute is resolved. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Amin_al-Husayni

The neutrality of this article is disputed. Please see the discussion on the talk page.(December 2007) Please do not remove this message until the dispute is resolved. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Amin_al-Husayni

Gabe1 sent you firstly about wishes for 2008. So,please excuse intruding here about Osama. Doesn't Osama look 20 years younger in then a few months ago?He had appeared with a red beard.(glanced at his photo today). Earlier,a year ago?,he looked like an old and dicrepit old man.Ergo,Osama is not alive,but either too ill,OR DEAD AS DOOR NAIL.

"But even so, he lived in Cairo, and participated in the 1948 war, and I was one of his troops.?" Rob what are you waffling on about.So what if Arafat was related to The Grand Mufti.They were both fighting for similar Goals'The preservation of Palestine as they knew it in 1948.Get real. As to your Simon Wiesenthal source---please try something a little more "neutral".

I was just joking with you about the Wikipedia. I don't care if you use it. It is just that I have been needing some source material and cannot get it here. But, I am sure I would find it there. Take Care and Have a Happy New Year.

Hi Rob, I was just thinking, since you are in Ann Arbor, you should be able to do better than wikipedia. Come on, I envy you access to that research library. While I think what the Grand Mufti did was hideous. He was also exiled in Europe. Many scholars, even more pro-Zionist ones like Mark Tessler, now at Ann Arbor, teach that the Mufti himself was an anti-Semite, but it was more likely than not that his supporters were more concerned with issues related to the Zionist movement and its impact on Arabs than any European style anti-Semitism. It is clear to me that the Mufti himself was anti-Semitic. Here we are agreed. What is not clear is whether his base supported him because he was, or because he seemed like the only option to stop encroachment to Arab ability to pursue their own sovereignty. Believe it or not, they are morally different. One is an issue of racism; the other is an issue of perceived self preservation.

Annya, You don't get to tell me what my own identity is. I am sick of people like you who get their information from non-scholarly propaganda sources and then come and tell me about things they have absolutely no clue about. 'Arab' is an ethnicity, not a nationality, just like 'Latino'. I could go on, but I am not obligated to explain myself to people on par with Ahmadinejad in their level of hatred and denial of the other. Believe whatever you want, but keep those opinions to yourself. By the way, if somebody arrived in the United States as an immigrant in 1986, would you deny that person's right to call themselves an American? Such a bigot....

...How can you say "Bible is dead" when you SEE it living ... Bible probably isn't dead, but it is certainly dying, while only elders who attend the Church service every sunday in the Western World. Most of the younger people in the West believe what they wanted to believe on Bible, look at their live styles. Live together without marry is a very common things there, just like drink alcohol, as well as free sexual intercourse, can't stand with one marry for a life time etc. I believe in Bible with 50:50 level of faith: 50% of them are the words of God, the rest 50% aren't. But we don't know exactly which part of them of God's words and which part of them are not.

Rob hello If your think for one moment that Tosefta,and Labrat will take any notice you will be disappointed.I did the same and I announced I had the articles and photos as well for proof.No one commnented on it.Most of us(myself and same)know about it,but the rest only care in what they want to think/accept. Oh of course when they go to websites it is an inescapable.There for all to see. So,they know,but will not admit it here.An Obloquy for sure. A good effort nevertheless Rob..We must continue to wake them up,whether they like it or not..

Very astute observation. If you look at my post #219 I pointed this out to one of our resident academics. I guess that neither Cipora or Tosefta are able to debate day to day realities but prefer being mired in minutiae. The Left and the Leftist academia have their collective heads in the sand and can not or does not want to understand the political dynamics of the Islamofascists irrespective of what name they call themselves. I just hope that by the time the head comes out we do not find ourselves inflamed in a Third World WAR ,a war that will consume us all. The Leftist warmongers are bringing this upon us in an ever quickening pace

How thick are these people who attempted her demise? The Jews were severly wounded and weak, they could not have risen to the place they are now without the hand of God. Who could deny this? Some have asked, "where was God?" He was carrying you home. God help this world come to a place of acceptence. This is God's Word come to be, it is His Will; honor it or fight it, fighters will not win. There is an obligation that comes with it, those who do not seek to fulfill it are fighting just as much. Open the eyes of our hearts Lord, bring us Your Peace, Amen.

"Tosefta, Grand Mufti visited Death Camps, so he knew, approved. ?Hajj Amin Al Husseini (1895-1974) was the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem... He supported the Nazis, and especially their program for the mass murder of the Jews." Rob Evidence please Rob.Not just the contents of you head. Also from Wikpedia---you must have missed that part. The Mufti was in Berlin during the war, but later denied knowing of the Holocaust. One defendant at the Nuremberg trials, Adolf Eichmann's deputy Dieter Wisliceny, accused him of having actively encouraged the extermination of European Jews. This testimony was subsequently dismissed as without factual basis by the court examining the issue during Eichmann's 1961 trial in Jerusalem. As famous Jewish philosopher Hannah Arendt, who attended the complete Eichmann trial, concluded in her book Eichmann in Jerusalem: A Report on the Banality of Evil: "The trial revealed only that all rumours about Eichmann's connection with Haj Amin el Husseini, the former Mufti of Jerusalem, were unfounded. (He had been introduced to the Mufti during an official reception, along with all other department heads)."[29][30]. Rafael Medoff concludes that "actually there is no evidence that the Mufti's presence was a factor at all; the Wisliceny heresay is not merely uncorroborated, but conflicts with everything else that is known about the origins of the Final Solution."[31] Bernard Lewis also called Wisliceny's testimony into doubt: "There is no independent documentary confirmation of Wisliceny's statements, and it seems unlikely that the Nazis needed any such additional encouragement from the outside."[32]

We better beware of all those boarder crossings at remote places. It's easy for people to sneak in to Israel as your news paper reported!

Gabe1 hello I do not indulge because my poor stomach cannot take it.But,do you?If so,let me wish you a Happy advance 2008 With peace for our Israel Amen and halleLUYA

Thank you for your useful information. I have already copied it and put it aside for use in future posting. This peace of information is very useful to shoot back at all faked righteous brothers, who are spilling crocodile tears all over the place and want to show us how innocent the Palestinians are.

HI,KATHY,CIPORA,KLAUDIA GABI 1,MARGIE,PETER SM MAYA,HARDMAN,and all our staunch supporters of ISRAEL. Who stand firm in the defense of ISRAEL.It's like our enemies who throw pebbles into the water,and causes concentric circles,getting bigger & bigger so shall ISRAEL spread far & wide,going from strength to strength With GOD's BLESSINGS. Like, King Canute who ordered the waves not to touch his feet,but the waves kept coming and coming so also ISRAEL SHALL KEEP ON COMING,& COMING till one day she shall find peace in Her Land,our beloved Land Of ERETZ YISRAEL! P.S.My Greetings to all who have contributed so forcefully & clearly,& discarded Israel's "bashers" to the dust-bin of History.

The MUSFTI Husseini WAS. The Stern gang never represented more than the minority. Israelis fought against the Nazis and the Pals did what?

Tosefta, your old,tired arguments trying to exonerate Grand Mufti. Just google, or go to wikipedia, and you'll find that: 1. Eichmann visited Mufti in Jerusalem before war. 2. Mufti organized Bosnian SS to send Bosnian Jews to Auschwitz. 3. Mufti's plan to exterminate Palestinian Jews after Rommels conquest. 4. Your argument that Wisliceny lied to exonerate Hitler is ridiculous. Hitler was dead and Wisliceny was on trial for his life and such a lie could not help him. Neither did he try to defend Nazi ideology at trial, only himself.

Well Tosefta, let's hope this coming year 2008 will be the year that the Bush Administration and the Quartet, support a final peaceful settlement with the Palestinians. Sometimes this venture seems a bit bleak when we've seen the threats from extremist Islamists which make this possibility quite a challenge. But the other option of not arriving to a compromise with the moderate Palestinians is even a worse scenerio in the long run. P.S. Still having a good time here with family, swimming daily, reading, some shopping, Americans very very friendly and a lot of good things going on here in Florida. Hope you are well and have a happy and healthy new years! L'chaim!

Sir, 1.frightened American Muslims hastily condemned a terrorist attack in general terms. 2.Foreign Muslim "leaders" did not mention Islamic character of attack. 3.No significant Muslim Cleric condemned the attack. 4. You believe that attack was perpetrated by Mossad, not by Islamic banditry. It was huge, huge mistake... "Destruction for destruction"

Happy New Year from an evil Zionist. If your boyfriend comes here will I be on your list?

The truth has been on the wall for a long time. First the bom twin tower, bow we are to believe that "Osama" i well abd alive. In any case he is saudi puppet regime for US/Jews, funded by the mossad, probably Jewish. They think we belive that Mossad/Jews/US would not have found TWO METER TALL ARAB with dyalysis machine in 7 year IF THEY HADE WANTED?? HA HA!

Very astute observation. If you look at my post #219 I pointed this out to one of our resident academics. I guess that neither Cipora or Tosefta are able to debate day to day realities but prefer being mired in minutiae. The Left and the Leftist academia have their collective heads in the sand and can not or does not want to understand the political dynamics of the Islamofascists irrespective of what name they call themselves. I just hope that by the time the head comes out we do not find ourselves inflamed in a Third World WAR ,a war that will consume us all. The Leftist warmongers are bringing this upon us in an ever quickening pace.

329Labhras Grand Mufti was Pal leader,Arafat his heir, not a small fringe group.

Tosefta, Grand Mufti visited Death Camps, so he knew, approved. ?Hajj Amin Al Husseini (1895-1974) was the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem... He supported the Nazis, and especially their program for the mass murder of the Jews. He visited numerous death camps and encouraged Hitler to extend the "Final Solution" to the Jews of North Africa and Palestine. In 1946 he escaped to Egypt.? [Simon Wiesenthal Center Web Site]

Tosefta, Connection of Arafat to Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Arafat: ?We are not Afghanistan?We are the Mighty People. Were they able to replace our hero Hajj Amin al-Husseini? ... There were a number of attempts to get rid of Hajj Amin, whom they considered an ally of the Nazis. But even so, he lived in Cairo, and participated in the 1948 war, and I was one of his troops.? [Al Sharq al Awsat, a London Arabic daily, reprinted in the Palestinian daily Al Quds, Aug, 2, 2002]

328Tosefta More on Grand Mufti, Pal Leader, and Holocaust To show gratitude towards his hosts, in 1943 the Mufti travelled several times to Bosnia, where on orders of the SS he recruited the notorious "Hanjar troopers," a special Bosnian Waffen SS company which slaugh-tered 90% of Bosnia's Jews and burned countless Serbian churches and villages. These Bosnian Muslim recruits rapidly found favor with SS chief Heinrich Himmler, who established a special Mullah Military school in Dresden. The only condition the Mufti set for his help was that after Hitler won the war, the entire Jewish population in Palestine should be liquidated. After the war, Husseini fled to Switzerland and from there escaped via France to Cairo, were he was warmly received. The Mufti used funds received earlier from the Hilter regime to finance the Nazi-inspired Arab Liberation Army that terrorized Jews in Palestine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Amin_al-Husayni In his memoirs after the war, Husayni noted that "Our fundamental condition for cooperating with Germany was a free hand to eradicate every last Jew from Palestine and the Arab world. I asked Hitler for an explicit undertaking to allow us to solve the Jewish problem in a manner befitting our national and racial aspirations and according to the scientific methods innovated by Germany in the handling of its Jews. The answer I got was: `The Jews are yours` In September 1943, intense negotiations to rescue 500 Jewish children from the town of Arbe in Croatia collapsed due to the objection of the Mufti who blocked the children`s departure to Turkey because they would end up in Palestine. The children were sent to Auschwitz. [37]

Recent Nazi documents uncovered in the German Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Military Archive Service in Freiburg [4] by two researchers, Klaus Michael Mallmann from Stuttgart University and Martin Cüppers from the University of Ludwigsburg, indicated that in the event of the British being defeated in Egypt by Generalfeldmarschall Erwin Rommel`s Afrika Korps the Nazis had planned to deploy a special unit called Einsatzkommando Ägypten to exterminate Palestinian Jews and that they wanted Arab support to prevent the emergence of a Jewish state. In their book the researchers concluded that, "the most important collaborator with the Nazis and an absolute Arab anti-Semite was Haj Amin al-Husseini, the mufti of Jerusalem." Toward the end of the World War II, al-Husayni worked for Nazi Germany as a propagandist targeting Arab public opinion and a recruiter of Muslim volunteers for the German armed forces.

Tosefta, your old,tired arguments trying to exonerate Grand Mufti. Just google, or go to wickypedia, and you'll find that: 1. Eichmann visited Mufti in Jerusalem before war. 2. Mufti organized Bosnian SS to send Bosnian Jews to Auschwitz. 3. Mufti's plan to exterminate Palestinian Jews after Rommels conquest. 4. Your argument that Wisliceny lied to exonerate Hitler is ridiculous. Hitler was dead and Wisliceny was on trial for his life and such a lie could not help him. Neither did he try to defend Nazi ideology at trial, only himself.

"Don`t you know Bin Laden is dead!" I've often though so, certainly. If so, why is the prime minister of Israel quoting as saying that Israel is taking the bin Laden threat very seriously? Could it be so that Israel continues to receive American money to fight "jihadism"?

the eu sent the explosives chemical in eu sacks marked sugar.does not send very promising for the eu.they have express outrage as in "i am shocked shocked" but who believes them?

Just to wish you and yours a HAPPY, HEALTHY and PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR. If you do celebrate do not overdo it as we need your intelligence here. Thanks for your clarity and REAL defense of Israel and our people. GABE

Dorothy, the Forward was a good article and I learned a few things. I knew of Moishe Grois but not of your Moishe Kapporeh. For my parents he probably would have been Moishe Kappureh but I never heard the expression used. Your pronunciation is a Lithuanian one.

A phlethora of international jihadi franchises , not to mention the local splinter groups like al Aqsa and Islamic Jihad, are competing for the media spotlight and the almighty petro-tyrant $$.The products they market , copious bloodshed, totalitarianism, and indoctrination into the Islamist death cult, are all depressingly similar(one fast food burger pretty much tastes like all the others, regardless of what brand name they go by ).Advertising, and name recognition is everything. Hamas bullied it's way to the top of the jihadi heap in Gaza via the hostile corporate takeover of the Fatah franchise.Now Osama and AQ have their eyes on expansion.Is another hostile takeover in the works? Nah, this time it will merely be a corporate MERGER between Hamas and AQ. Would you like lettuce and tomato with that ?

I know a few words of Arabic, Spanish, and quite a few in colloquial German. But I am neither of these, it was a good try nevertheless. Now please tell us the literal translation of these 2 words (hint) one is Yiddish and one Hebrew. And I do speak Yiddish. But as I said and antisemite can be someone who is Jewish and your are not the latter. So no support from Tossi Fetta will change that.

I sure hope you know what a devils advocate is? I think communication is much better than shooting qassams, or .223 bullets, or .50 slugs. It is my hope that both sides in this Israeli-Palestinian conflict would do more communication instead of warmongering and bad mouthing each other. NEITHER side is blameless. Folks talk rationally with each other rather than desire the other side dead. because in the end we all will be just as dead as each other. Only those with Jesus Christ as a go between, or bearer of all sin, will spend eternity with God. sorry i did it this way, but my evil twin made me do it :)) jk.

stuff it

didn't know that you were helpless here is one from the lookup i gave you: http://www.beliefnet.com/story/111/story_11121_1.html lots more out there with a little effort but you are slow right?

You have demonstrated on a number of times your propensity to admire Nazis, Hizbulla and Hamas. But that is quite normal for Arabs like you .These latest posts reflect your disdain and hate of Jews and Israelis alike. To you sub human murderers somehow become a National Resistance. When both of us know that the Balis are not a Nation. So what are they fighting for since 1929 other that to kill Jews and steal Jewish Historical Sovereign Land so that Israel can be Judenrein and become a Islamic Waqf. We both know that you are fooling no one with your perverted and slanted posts. But Haaretz is a Leftist paper that allows the Anti semites and Arab homicidal apologists such as yourself to have free run and taunt Jews. As a propagandist you are very good but not quite factual and as I said you make up history as you go along and WOE to anyone that does not see it your way. A PISHER with an inflated ego and a big head courtesy of "little blue" and NO LIFE.

One is contrary and the other you need like a hold in the head- according to the article. ( We have both.) Funny stuff. :http://www.forward.com/articles/moishe-pupik/

But still some nations don?t realize the dangers of these daisies until they will feel it seriously

But still some nations don?t realize the dangers of these daisies until they will feel it seriously

Dutch Go be a revolutionary and next time you vote, Vote Bin Laden in to office. I am sure you will!

"With man this is impossible, with God ALL things are possible" Call a truce, long enough to call on God? Repent of our sin that keeps us on the path of destruction? Have a showdown of the Prophets, as in the days of old? Would God bind the deceiver if we asked Him to? If He did, would we be willing to walk in the Ways of God? Perhaps we could ask Him to prepare us for willingness? How full of the Glory of God are we? Are we ready to seek Him? Are we ready to wear the clothes He has provided? Or are we going to stay in the bushes naked until our death. That is not what Adam and Eve did. They answered His call and bore His consequence. Are we afraid of the consequence? Do we Trust the Love of God? Many questions, where are the answers found? "The Kingdom of God does not come with careful observance, the Kingdom of God is within you."

bin Laden or Zawahiri would even think Pals would follow them.

Olmert has helped bin-laden by withdrawing and conceding from disputed lands.Now he says he won't resign if winograd blames him, while at an earlier time he said that President katsav would have to resign while under investigation by the AG's office. So olmert feels he is above the law. This man did say that since israel withdrew from lebanon 2000 , not one rocket was lobbed at israel(prior to 2006 war). When challenged by a reporter who told him that his son who was serving in the north, said that rockets were fired quite often, Olmert still maintained that no rockets were fired. He is a gutless lier. This is the same PM that allowed hamas to come to power by virtue of elections and allowed fatah to campain in Jeruslaem. And you israelis want to trust him to lead you in the next years-are you nuts??!!!

you wrote----"So, may be Grand Mufti inspired all three: Arafat, Bin Laden, and his close friend Eichmann, who visited Grand Mufti in Jerusalem in 1937, as well as Eichmann`s superior, You Know Who, with whom he was close too." Yes, and it is possible that they dropped by the offices of the stern Gang to discuss their arrangements to aid their good friend.You know the one they wanted to be close to. Read below. incredibly, Avraham Stern, the leader of the notorious ?Stern Gang,? late in 1940, made a written proposal to Hitler, by which the Jewish militias in Palestine, would fight on ?Germany?s side,? in the war against England, in exchange for the Nazis help in resolving the ?Jewish Question? in Europe, and their assistance in creating an ?historic Jewish state.? By this date, German troops had already marched into Prague, invaded Poland, and had built the first concentration camp at Auschwitz. The deranged Stern had further bragged about how the Zionist organizations were ?closely related to the totalitarian movements of Europe in [their] ideology and structure.? Stern?s obscene proposal was found in the German embassy, in Turkey, after WWII.

"In his Statement, the Accused admitted that he had met the Mufti, though not in his office, but on the occasion of a more widely attended gathering, and continues (p. 564): "But it is correct that those who accompanied the Grand Mufti visited me, and certainly there was some discussion then, though I cannot remember that I ever had a longer conversation with these Iraqi majors beyond general greetings and receiving them and handing them over to the members of my staff." Shortly afterwards (pp. 568-569), he speaks of a visit paid to his office by a nephew (or other close relative) of the Mufti`s." - From the Eichman trial verdict There was testimony given by Eichmann`s aide (Wisliceny) at Nuremberg, who said the Mufti and Eichmann were great friends, and the Mufti instigated the Holocaust. Very nice idea that surprisingly exonerates Hitler, but this does seem too unreal. In fact, as the quote from the Eichmann trial shows, Eichmann barely remembers even meeting his "great friend". The Mufti himself claimed he didn`t know about the Holocaust and there is no evidence that he did. In some actions he took, such as sending letters, he tried to convince the Nazis and collaborator governments not to allow their Jews to leave for Palestine. He didn`t want his problem in Palestine to grow. No talk about killing the Jews. The agenda here seems to be: Blame the Palestinians even for the Holocaust. So, dear Pals, why complain about paying the price for something you are guilty of yourselves? Of course this is nonsensical in more than one way.

Sir, the link you provided: http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=muslim+apologize+for+9%2F11&fr=yfp-t-501&toggle=1&c relates to pronouncements on 9/11/2001 by some political group - NOT A MUSLIM CLERIC - in 2004 May be Bob Laden is right- "blood for blood, destruction for destruction." Happy New Year.

I wonder if we present 242 backwards to jeff, will he then read it properly, or still see a military solution to it. Regards

My grandparents Russian Immigrants who spoke Yiddish were always talking about M. Pippick or Pupik and M. Kapporeh or Kapoyah. I never knew the spelling. But it was funny. And running into it these names brings memories. They loved to talk about people using these names characters. They were big yentas. I found an article at the Forward that spells it as I did and says it means worthless good for nothing. A post I read here from such a person addressed to me brought that to mind. see: http://www.forward.com/articles/moishe-pupik/

"Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God." Romans 13:1 Believe: God IS in control. Even the Evil one obeys Him. The question should not be to reconcile the actions of G.W. Bush to the commands of God, rather, to reconcile at once the world to the commands of God. If left to ourselves, none will sit still as the other destroys them. And I do not believe God would want us to. What He wants is for us to explore the REASONS for the opposition we face. We don't need to kill to stand in opposition. Some kill to defend, others kill to dominate, God knows the difference.

Washington Post Saturday, September 8, 2007 Ending a nearly three-year absence from public view, a dark-bearded Osama bin Laden surfaced yesterday in a new video in which he repeatedly taunted the Bush administration but made no overt threats of renewed terrorist attacks. The al-Qaeda leader appeared visibly older and spoke in somber tones as he delivered a rambling, 25-minute monologue that included a lengthy tirade against Western capitalism sprinkled with references to recent news events and cultural and political figures.. "The analysis suggests that the voice on the tape is indeed that of Osama bin Laden," said a U.S. intelligence official, speaking on the condition that he not be identified by name.

for the Islamist apology machine. They continue to live in denial. Conspiracy theories and lunar ideology are their comfort zone.

I was too busy,and did not look closely at the picture above.I have just done so,and by golly he does look 20+ years younger. The last one we sow of him,a few months ago,his beard was red,he looked worn out,and disabled. Final analysis is:OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD ..

Did you feel good after your superior gloating on Israel? Thank you for setting us colonials straight.

Haaretz Censor: Makes no sence censoring true history only because it mentions historical relation of Grand Mufti and Eichmann. 266Linthwaite Arafat was nephew and heir to Grand Mufti, the Pal leader who massacred Jews in 1929 (Hebron) long before Israel existed, and instigated German Final Solution of Jews, as witnessed in Nuremberg Trials by Eichmanns assistent. So, may be Grand Mufti inspired all three: Arafat, Bin Laden, and his close friend Eichmann, who visited Grand Mufti in Jerusalem in 1937, as well as Eichmann's superior, You Know Who, with whom he was close too.

Virginia, my God is a god of Love. He commands "thou shall not kill". He says if my enemy is cold give him my coat, if he is thirsty give him water. Since my God commands me ( and all other Christians) not to kill, i wonder why my president has ordered the killing of so many thousands of people? So if G.W. Bush is not killing in the name of God and killing is wrong, how do i reconcile this quandry ?

OBL's followers are making a coward out of him. If alive I doubt he would still be hiding, he would have martyred himself for the cause had he not been too sick to do so, maybe taking some real martyrs with him. Their whole domination trip is a LIE, they know it. They silently sit back waiting to see if these mad men can actually achieve what they set out to, so that they can ride the domination trip. The silent will pay the same price as the liar.

Hubal, Thank you, I couldn't have said it better. It was such an evil war. I hope one day we can outlaw war as a crime against humanity. As Eleanor Roosevelt said you have to do the things you think you can't do and as JFK said about peace you must start somewhere. Dutch

Charlie, it seems to me that might be the trouble with Israelis they are out to lunch too much and spending too much time in their cafes. The Americans I know are meeting in conference halls & community centres and opposing their government's policies at all levels. There is truly a revolutionary spirit here to take back their government from the corrupt Bush Camp, executive privilages, foreign policies, esp. Iraq and Israel and Iran, the oil companies and media tycoons. Many have their own websites and their own following and groups. It's a wonder anyone has time to keep down a regular paying job. Dutch

Hubal What you had forgotten in your long epistle is that prior to the Americans,the French had a long war and struggle at "Dien Bien Phu". Why did you not begin from its inception? That is all I wanted to say as a reminder.. Ponder awhile if you don't mind...

Aw his mammy's folks in Derry are so preshus to him...he wants to know ... 'How are they all in Derry.' it must be connected with '`It will bite you in the derryaire.` i mean, innt he cute??????? even if he dont shower much you cant smell him from hear "Hi Alicia--- You speak of loss of trust.I dont want to play the blame game but you leave me no choice" awww he's so nobel, neva says anything bad about anyone. awww Evrybody that wants a labras fan club rite hear. okay??????????????

"Bush replied ---I always look at things upside down.How did I miss that one." - Labhras I believe Bush is dyslectic too.

Now all you need is good intelligence. Isn't it the way it always ends up with you?

The Word of Messiah is written: "There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day." John 12:48 ?For by THY words thou shalt be justified, and by THY words thou shalt be condemned.? [Matthew 12:37] Are we speaking His Word, or our own? Or some others? His Word is Life, no others.

'Bin Laden`s belated discovery this week of "Palestine" as an issue rather nicely refutes the idiotic position of Rice, Bush, Blair and the Saudis that a Palestinian state must be rushed into existance...' Sigh. The expert speaks. Why don't you try reading a book about Osama? Outrage over Palestine was pivotal in the development of his thinking. ...and seeing as how you're a 'Dr.' yourself, maybe you can answer this. What is it about doctors? Every post every 'Dr.' makes on Haaretz seems to be compounded exclusively of inhumanity, ignorance, and viciousness. Is this universal in the medical community?

Dorothy, I believe there is a folkloric character "Moishe Kapoyeh" = Moishe the Contrarian. He just holds the opposite view of what others would think. I have never heard of Moishe Kapporeh, but that doesn't mean he doesn't exist. I am no expert. However, there are enough people here whom we need oif Kapporehs, so perhaps your Moishe should have been invented in any case.

i would buy the album

David Gross, Does talking tough to Bin Laden make you feel more secure? Well, I doubt if Bin Laden would be threatening your country (or the US) if your government wasn't spreading its own cancer and terror of occupation in the Palestinian territories. So why don't you do something to end this? Then I imagine, you wouldn't have to worry about a Bin Laden on your doorstep? Dutch

Well said Clickfool - you cat judge religon by peopl who practice it. The Jewish religion does not approve of stealing other peoples land and homes to build your own structures to live in. If the Jews have done so its not their religion which is to be faulted.

Wouldn't it be nice, if such a blatantly hideous and extremist statement of Bin Laden would generate at least some muslim detractors? Indraya for example. When pressed hard this character claims to be a peace-loving bloke that doesn't want to drive all Jews to the sea. When it comes to 'their enemy' this brand of people shouts "murder", "racist", "evil" and "apartheid" with more ease than the sane people out there order a refill of fizzy water. But they keep on missing the real issue. And this renders quite some substance to the claim that the Bin Ladens are awfully close to the moderates.... to close for comfort anyway. Show the separation, or share the same fate

Excellent post!!!!!!!!!!

Chris You made me go around trying to find where "Mount Naboo" was,and now I know that spend your time watching"science fiction"movies. No wonder I couln't find mount naboo,as it is meant to for people like you who indulge in superficial type of reading. I hate science fiction at every level.So dear Chris'there goes your silly humour-so-called. My subject matter is Socioeconomics and will get my PHD hopefully soon.

Has Israel got further sanctions against Iran? Has Israel convinced the Americans that they should drop bombs on Iran? Has Israel succeeded in stopping American moves towards a two state solution of the Palestinian Israeli conflict using the roadmap at the behest of the Saudis? Do you even know what is going on? So you see you may find my remarks outlandish, which of course is your opinion and you are entitled to it. But you cannot actually refute what I say can you? 5 Dancing Israelis remember them?

easy to look up: http://www.beliefnet.com/story/111/story_11121_1.html lots more out there if you are interested but you aren't you are just another lying jooooo

peals of laughter at this moronic statement. even then conceded rather reluctantly i may add.

What is it about your God that you Love?

Bin Laden died of kidney failure years ago. The real enemy is Bush, Haliburton, Saudi Arabia, Arab bloc, BP, Dutch Shell and oil conglomerate (OPEC). They are the face of the taliban and Al Quada. The CIA is their Mommy and you who fall for this are suckers.

Bush replied ---I always look at things upside down.How did I miss that one. Regards

The great religions are like roads. They are beautifully built, engineered to perfection and designed for safety. Then idiots in cars drive on them. Just as you should never judge a road from the behaviour of the drivers on it, so you should never judge a religion by the people who practice it.

(I think he's in Canada.)

Moishe Kapporah. Posts on this very board. (darfn af kappores)

You are awesome :).

"I like my scenario better. Get rid of ALL the anti semites, the good ones and the bad ones." With you deciding who are the anti-semites, I suppose, Leo?

Israel's appalling treatment of the Palestinian people provides a cause celebre for Islamic extremists the world over. It should have made peace years ago, when its regional power was at its relative peak. No doubt Bin Laden is opportunistic, but I wouldn't underestimate his determination to strike at Israel. That said, you're relatively safe, over in San Diego, Dr L.Brnd, so you can be as stern and uncompromising on Talkback as ever.

Not only was Dutch right but many Americans who knew the real situation in Vietnam early on, knew full well that they were fighting a battle they had little chance of winning. Most understood after the event, that had even less right to be there. The boat people you speak of were exercising their rights to disagree, after that nation was ravaged by 2 decades of unremitting war. Many actually chose to return later on as you probably know full well. Most who left, were from the middle classes and amongst the minority, who came from the cities and supported the corrupt regime, or worked with the Americans. Many were also with children of American GI's. The US could have saved an awful lot of trouble by simply supporting the Vietnamese when Ho Chi Minh asked Truman for humanitarian aid in 1946 . They have learned nothing as they recently proved in Iraq. The U.S. Defense Department study of the Vietnam war, intended to be "top secret" but released to the public by Daniel Ellsberg and Anthony Russo in the famous Pentagon Papers case, described Ho Chi Minh's work: ... Ho had built the Viet Minh into the only Vietnam-wide political organization capable of effective resistance to either the Japanese or the French. He was the only Vietnamese wartime leader with a national following, and he assured himself wider fealty among the Vietnamese people when in August September, 1945, he overthrew the Japanese . . . established the Democratic Republic of Vietnam, and staged receptions for in-coming allied occupation forces.... For a few weeks in September, 1945, Vietnam was-for the first and only time in its modern history-free of foreign domination, and united from north to south under Ho Chi Minh.... It was not America's right to choose for them, their leaders. That is an immoral concept. Would you like America to dictate Israel's choice of leadership? If not then you should stop supporting the idea that America could play god, with other peoples lives. You speak of the boat people as if they justify America's decision to go to war? Well, for a numbers man. Consider that 58,000 US troops were killed in Vietnam along with 300,000 wounded out of which 75,000 were left as paraplegics. Then reckon on the sobering fact that more Vietnam vet's committed suicide than were killed in Vietnam! (they had more conscience than you perhaps?). This apart from the estimated 2 Million indigenous peoples who lost their lives and 4 millions injured in a campaign which saw several times more tonnage of bombs dropped than in the whole of the 2nd Word War. All for a lost cause. That you seem to think America fought a just war really just shows how spiteful and criminal minds function :)

I always wonder how much of it is G-d talking, and how much the writers and scribes that preserved it. LOL

as it is written: "The Sword of the Spirit, which is the Word of God." "The pen is mightier than the sword" refers to the Word being greater than the physical weapon.

270Moslem: "i believe it was an inside job done by mossad and cia". And then he wants us to believe that Important Mullahs really apologized for 9/11.

...the only thing he`s in control of is the cave he`s currently squatting in on the Pakistan/Afghanistan border. ... and the minds of hundreds of millions of muslims. duncan

sake of his God. A "Christian" is one who follows the teachings of Messiah. NO ONE following the teachings of Messiah has ever killed anyone. This is NOT what Messiah taught. Those that believe in Messiah have killed, not in His Name; His Name IS His Word and His Word commands "Thou Shalt NOT Kill" Also, Those who believe in the Word of God before incarnation, that commands the same, have NEVER killed in God's Name. It is NOT in God's Name/Word to kill. Killer's disobey the command of God and are subject to God's judgment. Will God justify it? Will God have Mercy? This is between God and the sinner. The rest of us must be prepared for whatever God chooses, be it justice or be it Mercy. This is why Christians are taught to hate the sin, but Love the sinner. And pray God's blessings upon the sinner, that he may sin not. God's greatest blessing is the revelation of Himself.

Al Qaeda right now seems to have turned its face toward Pakistan and attacks on the Pakistani government and Pakistani people,? Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates told reporters in Washington on Dec. 21. The expansion of Pakistan?s own militants, with their fortified links to Al Qaeda, presents a deeply troubling development for the Bush administration and its efforts to stabilize this volatile nuclear-armed country. Al Qaeda in Pakistan now comprises not just foreigners but Pakistani tribesmen from border regions, as well as Punjabis and Urdu speakers and members of banned sectarian and Sunni extremists groups, Najam Sethi, editor of The Daily Times, wrote in a front-page analysis. ?Al Qaeda is now as much a Pakistani phenomenon as it is an Arab or foreign element,? he wrote. The tribes on the border have a long history of fighting invading armies. But since 2001, when Qaeda and Taliban forces fled the American intervention in Afghanistan and took refuge in Pakistan?s tribal areas, the Pakistani militants have steadily grown in Today they have been bolstered by the foreigners among them. Those include a smaller number of hard-core Arabs, like Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahri, Al Qaeda?s second in command, as well as a larger number of Uzbeks, Tartars and Tajiks who have influence them to take on new agendas, Pakistani security officials familiar with the region said. The Arabs in particular have brought money and fighting and explosives expertise, as well as ideology that includes religious justifications of tactics like suicide bombings and beheadings, which Afghans and Pakistanis had not used before, they said. strength and boldness. Al-Qaida has more work on its hands than trying to begin with the Palestinian issue. So Bin Laden if you are still alive, just show your face in the public domain and not hidden in the mountains of Pakistan/Afghanistan. ..

Dear Sheikh; GBU-43/B MOAB. (signed) Bush

Israel is not an immigrant settler society.This distortion that you share with other hard core Trotskyites is at the root of the evil you wish on israel.Your views of Israel are simply distorted to fit into your religion.You need to do this, as now that the chances for revolution in Britain are nil and as you all have become cushy middle classers, all that is left to you is latch your extrmists nonsense to other extremist nonsense in the thrid world.So now the very same people that even 20 years ago would have been anathema to your kind are now the banner holders of pregressive poltics.get it through your head, the Jews are not foreigners to the Land of israel.Jews belong their like the olive trees do. Claiming otherwise is nothing but a form of anti semitism as it seeks to degrade the jewish right to national self determination and is a rape of jewish history.

No, Rob, Israel weakened the moderate (Abbas) by NOT discussing with him the Gaza-withdrawal and thereby offering Hamas the golden opportuni- ty to portray the withdrawal as a result of their violent resistance. An offer they gladly accepted. That's called strengthening the extremists on the other side. I must admit, one of the few issues where Israels political establishment has shown tremendous "talent" over the past years.

S I L V I E N N E Don`t you know Bin Laden is dead! Why do you think no video footage has been constructed showing him talk to the camera, about up to date threats as he has done before 911, don`t you know the guy loves the camera and for some reason the only person seen talking to the camera from El Caida, after America bombed Afghanistan is their #2, and that is a clear Indication that Bin Laden is dead. Makes me think when are the Americans going to come to that conclusion.

hark at the man advertising his innocence.ben alofs i wretch at your repulsive mail.

Lynn, and I always thought that Israel is also part of "this world".... Need to check my little globe (confirmation present) once again....:)

yes doctor death but did we transport them to german camps?

The Pen is mightier than the Sword. Cease with your crusade already!

and look who is talking.the very same dutch who set up apartheid in south africa,killed hundreds of thousands in indonesia and helped with the transportation of the jews in recent times.and the man lectures us!

Mz Christian,please explain to me the following? G.W. Bush is a christian is he not ? you say Christian God is God of love. You supposed to give water to your enemy if he is thirsty. but you are willing to kill millions of so called unsaved in the name of WHAT ? your God wants you to kill the unbelievers or give them water if they are thirsty ? make me understand your god please

its all stolen and you have not the right to one grain of sand in the ME

Is "(pbuh)" a name?

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=muslim+apologize+for+9%2F11&fr=yfp-t-501&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8 i believe it was an inside job done by mossad and cia

I take it back. Perhaps Timothy just had to help with the washing up when he wrote that stuff? :)

When I speak to him, it is his spirit in others I speak to. When I cursed him to dwell in his pit until the coming of the Lord, (that Haaretz did not post} the curse was to the spirit he has left this world to contend with, compliments of Mohammed the Islamic Glory seeker. When I speak of his ability to liberate Palestine, it is to this spirit I speak. Palestinians rebuking this spirit and willing to give ALL Glory to God will free themselves of Palestine, obey the Word of God and STOP being used as pawns for this most ungodly spirit. Their brothers, who also rebuke this spirit, will open their arms to them and stop being put to this shame.

I prefer the French intelligence report of Ozzy's death, that he had drowned in his own shit whilst suffering from Typhus, dysentry whatever. My Aunty swears blind he is living on the Edgware Road in London, but I am sure I saw him working in a Launderette in Clacton. And if Yasser Arafat is the godfather of Al Qaeda (a desperate attempt to get the USofA to bomb Iran methinks) it is because of Israel's illegal occupation of Palestine. Which is used by the likes of Osama Bin Laden to do unspeakable things in the name of Islam.

just think, if the arabs never attacked Israel, there would be no need to return 'stolen lands' Liberated lands is more like it

who know and doesn't know you fundy digbat?

from the prophets(pbuh) last sermon : ?All mankind is from Adam and Eve. An Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor does a non-Arab have any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over a black, nor a black has any superiority over a white - except by piety and good action...

Mohathir Mohammed, ex PM of Malaysia and host of the so-and-so Conference of Islamic Countries made a famous antisemitic speech in which he basically said the way persued by jihadists is not the smarter one. To "liberate" Palestine a different, political, smarter approach was neccesary. Thus the COIC doesn't condemn Al-Qaida, but maintains that its methods are less than intelligent. TO the West of course, they sing to Western ears in English. To their own market, they say what they think.

"there were man condmnation of 9/11 but you ignored them and now claim there weren`t any"- M Sir, Kindly provide the names of any Islamic authority issuing condemnation(s). Also, please state in clear terms your position on Islamic attack on NYC 9/11. Thank you

A word of advise to Hubal: KNOW the Power of the Sword BEFORE you attempt to weild it.

From where I am sitting it appears that Osama Bin Laden is doing a terrible job at losing. Pakistan in flames, Johnny Taliban running riot in Afghanistans. Bombs in Madrid, London, Algiers and that is without even thinking about mentioning Iraq. American forces won't be able to be maiontained at current levels forever, and then the players will come out the woodwork and start where they left off. If it keeps you in your comfort zone to think that Bin Laden is losing then you stay there.

palestinians just want their stolen lands back osama wants to rule the world (assuming he is evn still alive and not some CIA/Mossad op)

there were man condmnation of 9/11 but you ignored them and now claim there weren't any you are a spoiled brat with a big biggottered mouth that shoould be spanked you know you can go to hell for lying brat?

I agree. The good Dr would be on much firmer ground if he describes the conflict as a struggle between two indigenous peoples with equal claims to Palestine. Many anti Israel people see the Jews as European, and therefore not legitimate. There parents and grandparents saw the Jews as aliens - which in some way has led to this problem. Although I believe that even in the absence of Anti Semitism there still would have been a Zionist movement, although much smaller.