Olmert bars Livni from attending UN Security Council sessions

olmert is sinking in his incompetence, livni is a good choice to suceed him

ps. people, people what is this asking for donations for this and that on this site. it just never ends. dont we give you enough. i think im donating to lebanon. they need it and you need to pay them to rebuild.

ps. people, people what is this asking for donations for this and that on this site. it just never ends. dont we give you enough. i think im donating to lebanon. they need it and you need to pay them to rebuild.

alain, you didnt miss their point at all but its not that they are paranoid thats just the usual wining that can you believe israael is the one with the nukes so who the heck is goind huhhuh push them in the sea, i wish, so that there could be peace finally, that theeir propoganda but really its good old fashioned greed, land more land especially if there is water on it.

saul, you just dont get it. because of israels treatment and behaviour hesbollah wwas created. by the way i dont look at them as terrorists they are resistance fighters, resisting israel. i think they are great. any by the way saul stop the whining, they want to wipe israel off the map. excuse me huh, a country that has nuclear and biological weapons that it has used. the only people that are commiting ethnic cleansing and trying to get rid of the palestinians (taking their land, water, blowing up houses and killing aand degrading them is ISRAEL. SO AGAIN STOP THE WINING. oh syria and iran is arming hessbollah, so what. the us is arming israel and right in the middle of the war. you make everybody sick, with your constant wining.

what a shame and a disgrace all those young lives, and destruction. arrogance is israels first name and violence and oppression are her others. israel you have to go back to the pre 1967 borders, stop the damn greed and brutality towards the palestinians. up till now the world didnt really know how brutal you were. they do now and it wont stand for it. you want a peaaceful existence then you have to treat others with respect,compassion and dignity. do you realise the only reason why you are sp well off financially and armed to the teeth is because the ustaxpayers support you. you are a welfare state and you have gotten greedy to a point where you have lost your humanity. if you want peace and a good life you better find it again otherwise you are going to reap what you sow. i think the us should cut off your funding and you should make it on your own. cheers

I am sure Fatima is rigth , you cannot kill the well of the people in middle east , in this war you have implanted hatred for the next 100 yrs .

Ladies like Livni have a better sense of leadership than egocentric men. She understands well what it means to be an Israeli and Jew for that matter but she does not like seeing images of dead children from Israeli-Arab conflict. I understand that Mrs.Olmert shares tha same sentiment about Palestinian children and their mothers. Can men try to have cool heads?

What the apologists for Hezbollah don't realize, or acknowledge, is that the war was not over territory, but about the goal of "wiping Israel off the map". What did Hezbollah (a state within a state) need 12,000 rockets for? Maybe they were collecting them to celebrate Lebanon Independence Day or the 4th of July.

Livni was correct. Only by moving simultaneously on the diplomatic & military front could Israel hope to win peace out of Hezbollah?s war. Israel should have used Livni & Peres to talk with Egypt, Jordan, Turkey, France, and even the Lebanese government. Yes, even Lebanon with its two Hezbollah cabinet members. Only by approaching Lebanon & other Arab countries could Israel at once pound Hezbollah in the field and marginalize them diplomatically. Israel should be on Lebanon's side in the sense that both it and the majority of the Lebanese want Hezbollah crushed. Israel should have approached Lebanon with a plan to squeeze Hezbollah with the understanding that this rapprochement would eventually lead to a Lebanese-Israeli peace accord. Lebanon's majority (Druze, Christians, and Sunnis) could exist without fear from the state within the state attacking modernity or multiculturalism or dragging it to another war. Israel could move one step closer to peace on all sides.

Not only do the Generals need to stand-up, but also the Policemen, the Politicians, the Lawyers of our respective countries. It is the only way to stop our countries from being taken down such destructive paths.

Sharon would simply have negotiated the release of the soldiers after having had a small incursion where he killed a similar number of Hezbollah and took perhaps a couple of hostages. Why do I say that? Because it is exactly what he did the last time this event occured...Which is, of course, why Hezbollah did the crime in the first place...Israel had a track record of negotiating for release of prisoners. When Sharon went into Lebanon last time, he went straight for Beirut...15,000 Lebanese died within a couple of years.

Let's be honest; Israel has long abused all natural laws to reach their "hidden" Religio-political agenda. So let the israelis be true to themselves and seek honest peace or stop crying about their losses because they put themselves in a hostile environment and understand that they are at war.

without comments!

To making Peace is the rule and not a dress or how she look code.

feel the war nearer as your bad words about a lady that look for peace!

Greetings to Livni!

Oh come on Jewish Mum, that Zippi needs a good haircut and makeover has nothing to do with the way she is functioning in her capacity of Foreign Minister. Why not try and get a diplomatic solution to all this killing. Haven't we lost enough young boys? Mothers know best what is good for this country, and I as a Mother, don't want my son to be killed because of an ego trip of some of our leaders. Nasallah is having an ego trip and look where that got him..Give us women a chance for a change.

I think radiation has escaped from Dimona and your entire country is full of Irradiated paranoid schitzo's. Everyone is out to get you. Seek Help and lets all chip in to get Israel some Group therapy instead of weaponry.

That is the point. Hezbollah is put in the squeeze. It was written to fail, and Hezbollah will break it as certain as the sun rises tomorrow, and then Israel will have the moral right to finish them off, helped by the UN and Lebanese regulars. Hezbollah is now trapped, and north of the border. The question is not Hezbollah it is Olmert. The UN has given him room to act in the future, but based on the last month expect him to drop the ball.

What are you smoking. The Hezbollah flag has a gun on it. Every Arab organization from the Arab League to Hamas wants to get rid of Israel. Read their writings, listen to their statements. Look at the history here. It is outnumbered 100:1. It is a miracle that it has done so well, but the enemy has definitely ramped up the propaganda and people like you swallow it.

Hi Gershon! You sure have amnesia like all fanatic zionists! You pooh pooh 7 point plan postited by Lebanon mouthing shop worn BS Israel is in danger and that all the Arabs want is to destroy Israel! Let me remind you it was Golda Meir who declared "there is no such thing as Palestinians"! This grandma of zionists also declared that Israel will use nuclear weapon if it deems necesary! By the way Israel is overflowing with nuclear and thermo nuclear weaponary! You cant fool all of us that all Iran wants is to destroy Israel.It is other way around,Gershon! Crying woolf is tiresom to the world!

Israel can not afford a dysfunctional government esp in times of war. Israel can not afford diletants running the country. Pathetic that Bibi has to do her work with the media.

"one thing i am with the israeli in is the soldier attack was inside the israeli borther and not in the occupied territory." Too bad you are so certain. That is a very badly distorted assertion and unfortunately widely accepted as true. Actually it is just plain wrong. the israeli soldiers "kidnapped" were NOT inside the "Israeli" northern border. They were in Shebaa Farms which is in fact Israeli OCCUPIED Syrian territory. It is disputed between Syria and Lebanon but it is officially only OCCUPIED by Israel who still has no legitimate territorial claim to it. Try and keep your Occupied Zones straight.

What actually do you mean by the word "Zionist?" Do you mean Jew? Do you mean Israeli? What?

Maybe the roles should be reversed and Tzipi Livni should be Prime Minister and Olmert her lackey. According to Aluf Benn Olmert saw the error of his ways and "clutched at her suggestions". After all, why not? There is no doubt that she is a polished military strategist and tactician. According to Livni, after 2 days she thought that Hezbollah should have been defeated and any further offensive operations stopped. I fear for Israel's future if these two giants of Statesmanship and Military accumen remain in office.

You can take Condoleeza Rice to your Netherlands now. Her scope of confidence - a nice little university.

Remember when the late PM Rabin almost had a nervuse break down during the war? Olmert might have the same problem. Perhaps he should have a much older FM to run to calling: Ima, Ima, Ima what do I do next?

'The best way for Israelis to guarantee their own security is to agree to implement the seven-point plan put forth by Premier Fouad Siniora. This plan, which has already been agreed to by Hizbullah, satisfies all of Israel's security concerns by fully addressing the grievances on both sides. Siniora's plan gives Israel a rare opportunity to achieve what it will never be able to achieve through military means. It is an opportunity that the Israelis cannot afford to miss.' wonderful sentiment, and the israeli's would love to believe it. but look at what hamas, iran, and muslims want...the DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL. How can they make a peace with a group that will make peace, change their name, then be at war and vow destruction again?

My understanding of the UN cease fire agreement is that both sides have made concessions. Those two sides being Israel and Lebanon. Wait a minute. What about the bad guys: Hezbollah? The UN agreement asks that UNIFIL strengthen itself as the buffer force. However, there would be no option for that force to use force to disarm Hezbollah or prevent Syria from respelling them. If Olmet and his cabinet approve the cease fire as it is drafted then shame on them for spending the lives of its citizens so cheaply.

I am Lebanese, i watch Livni on TV, she looks Cute, Smart, Good talker. LoL maybe i should propose to marry her:)) But i am afraid that if i do that, she might send the IDF to hunt my ass:)) But seriously, i like her look and the way she dresses and walk:))

I can see already that Hezbollah will heil this as a victory and as proof that Israel is not invensible and that it can be destroyed! And above all, the muslim world will see it as if Allah has blessed 'his party' and given 'green light' to destroy Israel. The Israeli-Muslim conflict is more about who are God's chosen people. My fear is that the muslims will get encouraged and Israel will face greater challenges ahead...But The Lord is with Israel!

Powell was indeed the only one who made any sense. Almost I had the feeling it was going towards the right direction that time, untill Bush ordered to attack Iraq. The rest is history (and present time, unfortenatly) The same is happening now when Condoleeza Rice is trying to much following her own agenda, then Bush will slow her down asap, negotiations for the picture, but not with real results, if you're not with Bush, you're against him. Condi and Livni, follow you're own agenda, don't give a shit what those men think of you, Bush cannot be re-elected after 2 terms, Olmert's days are finished sooner than he thinks. Next presidents of the USA and Israel: Condoleeza Rice and Tzipi Livni ! How would the world look like in a few years with this girlpower ?

but to survive. I blamed this war from the 1st time, but I blame on you hyppocrite arabs who killed israeli jews and arab civilians and childs and forget to mention. Hizbollah is simply the carrier of Arab nation hunger of Imperialism. How can you claim we occupy and make war after we retire? How can you be so hyppocrits??

It's good to see there is no reason for Olmert not to resign now. We've got a perfect replacement, Tzipi Livni ! Olmert obviously doesn't have a future strategy, he plans by the moment. Where Tzipi Livni seems more concerned that Israel isn't going to be isolated totally by the International community. Olmert, you've got your Foreign Affairs specialist to listen to, not to ignor her. People of Israel, ask Olmert to resign, you're new PM is ready for the job.

I wonder is Livni is single or married? would you mind to let me know? so if she is single then we can preceed for my offer,she should not worry about loosing the job.

Israel needs a strong leader. That doesn't necessarily mean hawkish. It means strong in convictions. Either go into Lebanon and crush Hezbollah without worry about consequences to Lebanese civilians, or find a diplomatic solution. A half-hearted war has NEVER been won. Wipe the hezbollah villages off the planet without regard to collateral damage, and save Israeli soldiers lives. Or negotiate. Hawkish or Dovish. Netanyahu or Peres. Not Olmert. Be decisive in war or peace.

Oh dear. Quoting Kissinger as the "expert" on civilian control of generals! Recall that Kissinger was the "Civilian in Chief" while Generals were mucking about in Vietnam, Nixon was going bonkers in the whitehouse and he (Kissinger) was blathering on at Paris Peace talks (and boinking Barbara Walters? or was it Diane Sawyer?) Once you go to war -- a civilian decision in the U.S. - its best to leave the war planning and execution to the generals. Colin Powell knew that. So did Schwarzkopf. But the decision to get in -- and WHEN (under what conditions) to get out IS political. But generals must insist on having sound political entry/exit bookends so they can plan accordingly. But -- both Israeli politicians AND miliary leadership seem in complete disarray. Both strategically and tactically. That's why rockets continue to rain on you.

Al, I can tell from your response that you need psycological help. Hate to disappoint you, but I don't wear a Burka, contrary to what you believe. As a Muslim we revere VIRGIN MARY as an example to the Muslim woman, so if you have a problem with Muslim women covering up, and not revealing their private prarts, then I guess you must be pretty upset with the way Virgin Mary dressed. Well get over it and get educated my friend, you have no idea what Islam is all about.dON'T LET THE PSYCO ALQAEDA'S Fool you, just like I don't let the Zionist fool me about Judaism.

this Government is showing you the true reality of you people have been doing for so long. you now want olmret out and Livini in. then you will need her out and look for some one in without acheving what you really need and want. As I said this the best government you ever had and you will enjoy the peace and security with just trust them and don't judge them. for your good sake stop switching side if thing don't look well for you personally, it is not about you it is about your long term good of your nation including you. Oh My God God help this Government to show the light to it citizen along with the neighbor. Be wise

Our heads are spinning here. Where is the coherency? Where is the planning? Sadly, it all brings to mind the TV show, The Three Stooges.

We only hope that the israeli government self destructs. would that it happens before too many more innocents on both sides of the border pay with their lives. Meanwhile, democratic Lebanon grows more united against Israel with every passing moment. Including hezbollah. Factionalization has plagued israeli forever. see Tom Friedman's assessment of Israeli disunity in "From Beirut to Jerusalem" I'm no fan of Friedman's, but back when he wrote that book he was merely an everyday "journalist" who did his homework before he opened his yap - not like the "pundit" he thinks he is today. Israel must accept that sooner or later one MUST negotiate with the other side to have a truly secure state. A overwhelming military response coupled with an attitude of "Never forget" and "No negotiations with terrorists" are modi that have served them very poorly since the founding of the state. Insanity = doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

Go to The Lebanon Daily Star http://www.dailystar.com.lb/home3.asp There is no dicussion only fitriol. And no dissenting blogs. You are wrong, and if Nasrallah gets his way you will be silent

War is too important to be left to the Generals. Two weeks ago, Secretary Kessinger, talking on CNN late edition, said he did not understand the Israeli strategy, because it had no political track or target.Now we know that the Israeli cabinet do not understand that policy, either.Talk about children playing with matches.

too bad about the in-fighting, too bad about the military loses, most of us knew that a ground attack would cost many soldiers lives. Unfortunately this all gives hizbollah a victory of sorts, they were able to withstand the might of the once invincible israeli army. Too bad, this will echo through the caves and hideouts of all of the thugs of the world, embolden and encourage them to continue their evil assault on modern society.

hi, when u talk about voicing an opinion, please, dont include lebanon with Syria and Iran. this shows how ignorant u r. Lebanese've full right and freedom of speech. they're free thinkers more than you beleive.wish many israelis can free-think without obsession about old texts & religion. u r mistaken if u think that the israelis(especially their government) dont read lebanese newspapers, hear lebanese radios, or watch lebanese TV channels. they do. because of the freedom and objectivity of many of these media, the antennas and broadcasting locations were constantly hit by the IAF during this war.this is to prevent israel from seeing what the IDF is doing in lebanon. Let me ask one thing: do you claim that you really know what is happening in Lebanon and gaza right now (watching israeli media and CNN)?? if u think u do...please, enlighten us all and describe it.if u think that arabs reads israli online newspapers because they dont trust theirs, let me tell u, u r naive. rgds

Olmert was, is and will continue to be a self-serving, hedonistic little worm. He was given a chance very early in his term to prove that he is not a leader and I hope the country pukes him out very soon. Tsipi Livni should be prime minister. She is the only decent person among that bunch of charlatans.

fatima, rush to buy a burka.

No matter which side of this debate you are. You are on the side of a debate voicing your opinion, Israel has dissent, disagreement and discord and do so publicly. This debate would NEVER be allowed to happen in Lebanon, Syria, Iran, North Korea .... And all the Pro-Hizbullah people that come here. Why. Because despite all their blathering, they know they cannot trust the Arab media and they come here to find out what is really happening And they keep coming back. And they hold an open debate on it. That is what democracy is and that is why democracy is a threat to so many Arab regimes. So tell Olmert thank you and tell Livni thank you for showing how Israel is different from her neighbors. We know Nasrallah, Assad and the Iranian Hitler would never allow this to happen in their private hell holes.

Tzipi Livni, despite being of a political conviction diametrically opposed to mine, is the only intelligent, reasonable, logical and able member of this government. No wonder impotent, weak, corrupt and basically stupid Olmert who has proved to be a total failure as the mayor of Jerusalem, in leading the country in general and in this war in particular, wants to sideline her. She is the only figure on the right that I would want to see as prime minister today. Not letting her attend the Security Council meeting is tantamount to shooting ourselves in the foot. Down with this Olmert who is leading Israel to its very first defeat and to a considerable weakening of the Israeli society's fabric.

Clearly Olmert is trying to hurt Livni because she is the only person qualified to replace him.

have to say if Sharon was still running the show? Oh, thats right, Nasrullah's masters would not have authorized the attack if he was still around. Cease fire, peace - what a load of crap. The goal of this fight should be viewed as knocking Hez-b's and their masters down a peg or two. And after the ceasefire? Kill Nasrullah and each successor - until Hez-b changes. I do admire Hezbullah's straightforward approach - it is clear what it wants - Israel gone and a fundamentalist Palestine. Hear that, Christians and Druze?

Yes she combines two deadly traits; she is smart and beautiful in a country that surrendered its future to the Crazy and the Ugly. Off course her boss tries to sideline her, she reminds him of his incompetence. With Livni, Rice, Merikel and Secretary of State in England and in Austria mankind shall learn that women are more capable of ruling the world. With their compassion, intelligence and ability to multitask they will make this world a mirror of its leaders a safer place, a fun place and a more compassionate place for all our children.

Since Livni stopped being minister of hasbara the image of Israel has further plummeted. English can be learned, hair can be dressed but nothing at all can be done about stupidity or vanity. Those disadvantages Livni does not suffer from. On the other hand Netanyahu speaks good English, takes care of his image and ... oh, would I cry if we had to put up with him again!

IT IS TIME FOR THE GENERALS TO TAKE CONTROL OF THE COUNTRY NOW

If you use the military option you say to the generals "I want you to destroy Hezbollah" and let them get on with it. If you use the political option then you send your Foreign Minister to the UN (where the decisions are being made) to state your case in person. Olmert has done neither, and now he is in a trap of his own making. Having to say to the US that Israel may not automatically accept the UN resolution. Well I think Olmert is about to get the shock of his life in the form of a telephone call from the President of the US. Who will tell him what to do, and Olmert will have to do it.

Reading all these commentaries, It's somewhat of a relief to see that there are poeple out there against this violent and unjust war. The media portrays the image that over 80% of the Isreali population are for the war. Those that are against it need to speak up. Violence only breeds more violence! Stop the bloodshed!!!!!!!!

Both Foreign Ministers sidelined by their bosses. Both wanting a (bit) more humane approach to the conflict. That about answers who is the "good guy" in this war.

She is using logic and been realistic, and what the PM and Government are doing is the same. You know it is hard to find a final logic if there is no compromise in the request. Therefore all Olmret government logic is logic in an attempt to end the long problimatic within compromise and mutual respect. at the end livini is working in Olmret government to which i hope good luck. the citizen need to understand that. and yes a lot of innocent people died, infrastruxcture destroyed , let every one learn from this lesson. good luck

Don't sit in the comfort of 1000's of miles away from the conflict incouraging more blood shed that costs you nothing except few cheap typed words. Pack your bags, head over, volunteer to join the IDF, and ask to be on the FRONT LINES. You're packing up, right? I didn't think so! Bunch of hypocrites!

1982: Israel invades Lebanon. AIM: to destroy the PLO. RESULTS: PLO was NOT destroyed; atrocities & massacres of thousands, lead to the CREATION of the resistance movement: Hezbollah! 11 years later peace treaty with PLO, Hezbollah drives the IDF out in 2000, but Israel kept L. Prisoners & Shebaa Farms. 2006: Hezbollah kidnaps 2 Israeli soldiers to trade prisoners. Unlike 2004, Israel refuses peaceful trade, and invades Lebanon. AIM: to "destroy Hezbollah" and secure the release the 2 soldiers. RESULTS: soldiers not released, Hezbollah NOT destroyed, 1000 or so Lebanese civilians and 10's of Israeli ones killed, unprecedented infrastructure destruction in Lebanon & definitely Israel had it's share. Questions to Israel's government who chose violence over negotiation: Will another group rise as a result of Lebanon's destruction, just like Hezbollah rose? Will resulting hate grown on both sides bring Israel peace? Does Israel's choice of violence really bring Israel security?

Ms. Livni seems to be the only sane person in the cabinet. Mr. Olmert's adventures caused nothing but blood, sweat and tears for everyone. The two captured soldiers will not be returned without prisoners exchange, Hizbollah will not disarm eventhough, it will have to make a tactical move northward for a while, yet its prestige and power was increased exponentially since the ill fated invasion of Lebanon.

Seems that FM Livni is undergoing the same sort of treatment former US Scty of State Colin Powell got because he was NOT fully onboard for the Iraq invasion. It's tough to be the only sane person in a room full of looney idealists with a set agenda. All you can do is try to reason with them...and it usually falls on deaf ears...until their own blind obsession comes back to bite them on the backside. Seems Olmert is not that different from Bush. Two men who came from nothing, but trying to make some sort of legacy for themselves at the barrel of a gun.

The problem is that the Government was unable to make a decision. This is the danger. I can understand why he did not want Livni to represent Israel's position at the UN.

Looks like Livni is the only matured and sage person in the entire Isreali cabinet

She is using logic, unlike many of her colleagues and bosses. This is good. 2 soldiers kidnapped, 5 killed (?) initially. How many Israeli soldiers and civilians have died since? And for what? They have not hurt Hizb, only themselves and the Lebanese civilians.

Israel needs to accept the cease-fire resolution, in any form, and ditch this LOSER. Fast. The option of having Olmert continue to prosecute this war is far worse than any mere resolution could be. The longer the war goes on, with Olmert messing it up, the worse Israel's defeat will be.

If anyone one remembers, Livni was Minister of Hasbara. Of course no one remmebers, she was crap! During her time in office, the world image of Israel plumetted. We used to be great at Hasbara, but under her, we became laughable. She cannot speak English, needs a good haircut and a makeover!Olmert had to dig up Bibi ti promote Israel to the press. I would not cry if Livni got booted.

why do the women have so little to say in politics ??? Remember: "The Mothers of the Plaza de Mayo" made us hear the voice of humanity in a ARgetina of Generals.... Politicians who turn generals are even worse than real generals! But why are women muzzled in politics??? ... Fatima - speak out!! ... Livni: defend your country from barbary !

Isreali leaders's arrogance has lead us to this blind alley. What we are going to get now could have been achieved without firing a single shot. Prisoner exchange will happen even now which could have been done the first day. But we have lost our aura of invinciblity, our reputation and stroked anti semetic fires in the world. Shame on Isreali leadership and its cheerleaders in media and punditocracy.

I remember i read once that she said attacking israeli soldier isn't terrorism, but attacking civilian is. and i think she mislead the palestinian and Hizbollah by saying that. remember this is what start this desctruction. one thing i am with the israeli in is the soldier attack was inside the israeli borther and not in the occupied territory. with some logic and support to the actual government we shall see some lasting light in that region. good luck

..."A short time after the fighting erupted, Olmert pushed Livni out of his close circle"... Israel current government is in the bring of disaster. How could this happen between PM and FM of Israel in the time of war. Your enemies can read you like an open book Israel? GOOD NEWS.

And what might "King Moschiach's Instructions On Lebanon" be, Saint Capslock?

Why all the talk, blame game? Sooner, rather than later, after the blue hatted UN boys are taking their siesta in Lebanon, as Nasrallah gets new Iranian treats, the pass the mango blame game will begin in earnest. Olmert, Peretz, Peres, Livini. How many ways to spell schmuck? And what was accomplished? Disarming Hezbollah? Return of soldiers? Protecting Israel from rocket attacks in the thousands? Destruction of the tourism industry. Reestablishing the image of Israel's strong arm to foes within the middle east and friends in Washington? Why didn't Olmert just use his lawyer skills to negotiate with Hezbollah vis-a-vis the Germans? The results would have been better: a trade. If he can't walk the walk, why did he talk the talk? How a single Israeli can approve of the government's performance is beyond me.

Livni did not bother to check in with Olmert well before her trip to U.N. looks like she was stating to the world she would be going to put pressure onto Olmert that she would now HAVE to go... giving him a moments notice.... Well maybe next time she will work just as hard with Olmert diplomatically as she is trying to with the rest of the world. Livni, get your priorities straight or get out of politics!

Think, Kadima is a nothing party, it has no real base. It a bunch brought together by Sharon. It is in because of a protest vote. This is actually democracy at its greatest and its stupidist.

They should have listened in the first place and found a diplomatic solution. The lives of the 2 soldiers were not in danger, I am sure they would have been returned once they agreed on returning the Lebanese soldiers. What a waste of lives. Shame on the Israeli government for wanting the death of many women and children to happen in order to secure their so called victory. No matter how hard you demolish Lebanon, and no matter how many lives are taken by Israel, this war can not be won. You can not win the hearts of the people in the Middle East by blasting them to kingdom come. You can not say you are a democratic country when you arrest and kill people who were elected democratically. That itself is hyprocrocy. You complain that you are being bombed but don't complain that you bombed and killed civilian first. Let's just hope that some good can come out of this, and that is the Lebanese people being united once and for all. In turn this will unite the Arabs.

The last time Israel withdrew from Lebanon or Gaza and showed any kind of weakness it just lead to more bloodshed. Today they are bombarding us with explosives. Tomorrow with unconventional weapons. This is our last chance to end this. We should finish the job we started, to protect future generations. Anyone who thought a war could be won without loss of life was/is dilussional, but it does not mean the war should not take place.

Problems between Livni and Olmert, between Peretz and Olmert, between Peres and Olmert and between the generals and the politicians... They built the expectations up way too much in the first two weeks or so...

Livni future PM material? Some people were already saying that during the last election.