Olmert backs regional summit to discuss Saudi peace initiative

You might want to use some of the negotiators from the Geneva Accord at this summit.

This is just a maneuver to kill Saudi initiative, the way Israeli killed past initiatives. Just take a look in the past 15 years since the OSLO agreement. Israel killed all of them one by one. It will be foolish to believe that Israel is serious about this one.

This isn't the worst of it. Giving the arabs a lot of land, most of E. jerusalem isn't a problem per se. The real problem is the fact the palestinians are rooted in hate; half of them support hamas. Most (80-90%) is on war footing. None of the attacks will decrease; if anything you will see El Al planes being shot out of the sky, 100-200 missiles raining down on W. Jerusalem per day, and 1-2 suicide bombings a week. The Palestinians must be on a peace footing before an agreement is made!!! The roadmap should be followed-- not appeasement of terrorists! Agreed Olmert is a horrible PM -- slavish devotion to the anti-Israel Rice...Israel needs to pressure MKs to boot this idiot out of office...

Better some talks than nothing. Olmert develops diplomatic activity and getting useful acquaintances. What will be in the end of negotiations we still do not know but for sure one much better image of Israel in Muslim World. #3 he is not native Swede and most likely has no anything to do with Sweden except trying to ruin Swedish picture of open-minded country. Swedes in general do not know how to be sarcastic and mean. This is Absolute all but not Sweden,

How much are the whabis paying the crook Olmert to support this plan? Olmert makes Peres, Barak and Belin look like hardline right wingers with what it seems he is willing to accept. It even makes Arafat look like he negotiated because he was interested in Israels best interests and wanted to make sure that it gave as little as possible. The jews better all pack their bags because the longer Olmert is in power the less there will be of a jewish state for them to live in.

It's true many refugees worldwide have not returned (such as the Jews who fled Arab lands). But the refugees is a primary issue for the Palestinians. It's folly to think that an Arab Initiative such as the 2002 one would not mention them. Yet the language of the initiative was chosen to express possible Arab-wide support for a solution other than return if the Palestinian camp agrees to one. Would they? One test is the symbolic Geneva Initiative, which has alternatives to actual return. For a time, majorities of both Palestinians and Israelis supported the Geneva Accord as a whole package deal, even if not loving each element individualy.

only when the USofA manage to liberate itself from the Stranglehold of zionism , only then we could take the inhabitants of the USofA Seriously.......... and how is it possible for a large country like the USofA to be ruled by one of the most intellectually backward individuals namely George Bush ????? search me !! . Something is drastically wrong with you guys on the other side of the water, You really need help to help yourselves

...or says?

And why do you think Israel must agree to rturn of even one(1) of the refugees? Is ut just ?Does the experience wuth the Israeli Arabs is such a joy? 15 millinions Germans were forced out of the E.Europe as a consequence of the started and lost war.Pals are not above everybody else and the Leftie screaming of withdrawal to preserve the Jewish character is shown to be a pretext,since they push for settling of pals in Israel',the "character" notwithstanding

Throw this man out of office before he does so much harm to Israel they won't be able to recover. Olmert How many Israeli's gave their lives to get that land. I knew you didn't care about the soldiers you sent to Lebanon but to discrace the honor of those who gave their lives in 1967 to defend Israel. How dare you offer to return Israel to 1967 borders. Olmert is the worst PM Israel ever had. He needs to resign NOW

DORIS , WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO GET A ROCKING CHAIR AND RETIRE FROM TOTAL CRAPOLA ?? WCAN YOU TELL ME WHAT IS GOING TO WIN THE KENTUCY DERBY THIS YEAR? WHAT ABOUT HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES BY MUSLIMS ??

COURSE.

The Saudi plan support the refugee returns, it says 100% of the Golan must be given to Syria, close every settlement, give up E Jerusalem and its holy sites, give over every inch of liberated jewish land. If we have to give up some land to the palestians ok we have the roadmap for that which will allow Israel to keep some settlement blocks and it says nothing about Jerusalem or the Golan. The Saudi plan is buy 1 get the rest free deal at Israels expense. All territory gone in return for some kind of agreement with the palestians, a deal with Syria that will look more like the deal done with the PLO under oslo, the support for terror wont be so obvious but it wont go away. The only thing Israel really gets out of it is the Gulf states will recognise Israel has a right to exist and they are not a problem either way. Not even Yossi Belin has ever gone this far with concesions this plan Olmert likes makes Barak and Peres look hardline right wingers. What is Olmerts price?

This Initiative was on the table 4 years ago and was rejected. We did alter our position. To Dutch # 8: the world is moving in to different directions. 1- The world governments pushed by the U.S. are boycuting Hamas and making the Palestinians suffer. 2- The world low level, local and street populations are boycuting Israel. The gap is growing and is leading in the same direction as south africa before.

Who died and made you king? You have added nothing with your words to Jonathan and Absolute, who raised many good points. I have a great theory about people that never debate nor think logically and only castigate dispersions towards others. I do not think you have peace at all, within.

Olmert and others better realize Israel is not going anywhere in the region or the world without a just agreement to this conflict. Indeed, I predict they will face many more serious boycotts and greater isolation by the international community if they don't do their part and withdraw from the territories. Dutch

Shouldn't US Condi say about the Saudi initiative to Olmert " Don't even think about it " , , , The Mecca deal recognize that Hamas doesn't recognize Israel's right to exist , shouldn't US Condi say about the Saudi initiative to Olmert " Don't even think about it " , , , The Saudi initiative speak about pals refugees , pals say refugees return to Israel , Arabs-Israeli ' Vision " document reject Israel`s existence as a Jewish democratic state by its demands to veto issues of vital importance to the state , autonomy in interior affairs , changes in national symbols , residency and citizenship laws , , then with pals refugees return from Haifa to Beer Sheva, there will crystal clear be no more Israel State , shouldn't US Condi say to Olmert about Saudi initiative clause of pals refugees return " Don't even think about it " , , , 1967 UN 242 speaks about withdrawal , but Israel peace treaties with Egypt and Jordan supercede 1967 UN 242 , UN 242 is thus dead , but Saudi initiative speaks about withdrawal to pre 67 borders , , , shouldn't US Condi say to Olmert about Saudi initiative withdrawal to pre 67 borders " Don't even think about it " , , ,

"Agreed, just solution to the problem of Palestinian refugees" if translated right, is very specifically chosen and hinting language. "Agreed" obviously communicates the solution would be something Israel too would agree to i.e. all refugees would not return to Israel. By not calling for full return but instead for a "just and agreed solution" the Arab world (including lead negotiator Abbas) are open to other solutions. Also, Israel's chances of securing land swaps as part of a full deal is good. If negotiating for real with Abbas and Arab states, Israel could insist on a deal that includes equitable changes to 67 borders, a fair alternative to literal return of Palestinian and Jewish refugees, formal recognition, and disarming of terrorists as step one of the deal... that would leave the Palestinians with a concrete, specific alternative life to occupation, and one that protected Israel's security. It is worth trying.

see my response to that tosser so called Absolute Sweden, it applies to you as well...... go and get educated an come back and join the human race Shalom/peace

I don't know which position he is talking about, but to me, it looks like Mr. Bush and his pro-Israel administration screwed up our diplomacy in the ME. and realy put us in a very bad corner. Look at the American official who is going to Syria to discuss the Iraqi refugees. Is he really going to discuss the Iraqi refugees problem or the GOLAN HIGHS. For the first time in 27 years we are forced to sit with the Iranians at the same table. How low can it get.

and as such you are NOT to be taken Seriously . Stay where you are in Sweden, go and see your DOCTOR ask HIM/HER to grant you a place in the institution. You are not a sophisticated person, and therfore you have nothing to offer . Shalom/peace

All those who thought that only Holocaust denier Abbas disposed of suicide bombers have been proven wrong. Israel has at least one who is well known. In a really short period of time Ehud Olmert is near to blow up everything the Jewish people was fighting for 100 years and more. The Saudi plan means a retreat by Israel to suicidal indefensible borders, the flooding of Israel by millions of hostile Arabs and only then, a peace treaty with a state that is no more a Jewish one. This plan can only be taken seriously by someone who is ready to commit collective suicide. Olmert is a threat for the very survival of Israel. He must be removed, either peacefully or by force, as soon as possible.

Who else but the unelectable Israeli Lefties would consider the Saudi Initiative designed to flood Israel with the "pal refugees"? No "creative solutions " possible here,only total rejection and deporting close to 200.000 pal illegals in Israel is the answer.