Officials: Shin Bet use emergency regulations on 17% of Gaza detainees

Milwaukee is being protected by luck--The American Government wasn't too good at protecting NY and the Twin Towers, first it was attacked and then brought down--You might consider how the Pentagon was attacked while under U.S. protection, and the airliner that was brought down in Pennsylvania--

Colin did none of the things you attribute to him. Others did that before him. Do not confuse things. You are responsible for what you do, not for the acts of people who lived long before you. It does not dequalify him in the least to give a critique about the most unjust situations existing on earth right now. A situation you are responsible for, now, in the present, and you could do about it. another point: it seems israeli history books constitute a big part of the problem

"Thank you, Shin Beth, for protecting our lives!" They are protecting you in Milwaukee, are they? No. The American government is protecting you in Milwaukee.

Btw, the guy's name was De Menezes.

'Understandable human error' was not in quotes for the fun of it. It was described that way by the police. However, I must say that it doesn't look like a routine operation -- contrary to the Israeli way of dealing in comparable situations. I remember a remark in one of the first articles about Menendes' death, namely that the Britsish policemen acted after the example of the Israelis. Israelis suffer from terror attacks, true -- so do the Palestinians. Consistently not following the rules yourself disqualifies you from criticizing the other.

When done by Brits its `understandable human error', but when done by Israelis its not. Israeli has been suffering from continuous terror attacks for years. The priority has to be security of civillians, as in any other country.

Actually, it wasn't a 'tiny minority' of gringos: we'd more or less overrun the place (it's estimated that in 1848 there were only about a hundred people who could write Spanish in the whole state). Of course, that implies a certain poetic justice in what Hispanics are doing now -- but your point's not a valid one.

Actually, I believe it's a 'light unto the nations' -- which modern Israel most certainly is not. Interesting that you would have it otherwise.

Surely, it's your cowardice that makes you want to vomit--There you were, boldly proclaiming your were going to become a "Human Shield" and nobody is able to extricate you and have you keep your promise--Look in the mirror, what you see is an abomination--

Giving your version of the Tales of the Arabian Nights--Read and learn, maybe it will penetrate---You are the interlopers, not the Jews-- "THE HISTORY http://www.vibrani.com/Palestinians.htm PALESTINE ? HISTORY OF "There is no such thing as Palestine in history, absolutely not." --- Professor Philip Hitti, Arab historian to Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry, 1946. You can't rely on the accounts for history in most Arab nations, because they never accurately teach it, and have this amazing habit of reinventing it on the spot. This whole notion of there being a Palestine is a recent invention - 1967 to be exact. The homeland of the so-called Palestinians is not Israel. The historical homelands of these nomadic Arabs (Ottomans and Turks) are Jordan, Turkey, and Saudi Arabia, and approximately 80% of the Jordanian population is made up of Palestinians. They were exiled from these nations, and others, because they were always trouble makers and no one wanted them. To this day Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and other nations finance Arafat and his terrorists in order to keep them out of their countries. "From the end of the Jewish state in antiquity to the beginning of British rule, the area now designated by the name Palestine was not a country and had no frontiers, only administrative boundaries . . . . " -- Professor Bernard Lewis, Commentary Magazine, January 1975. Let's backtrack into history a bit and show how this developed: The holiest place for Islam is Mecca, not Jerusalem. Jerusalem isn't mentioned in the Koran. Jerusalem IS mentioned over 700 times in the Tanach, the Jewish Holy Scriptures. The Jews were only continuous and stable population in the region from time immemorial - they did not abandon Jerusalem, even after the Roman conquest in A.D. 70. Israel has been the homeland of the Hebrews for almost six thousand years. Muhammad (who started Islam) was born in the year 570. Islam is the only religion that defiles other religions, churches, temples, shrines, and graves HERE?S THE LINK ? FEEL FREE TO READ IT IN IT?S ENTIRETY http://www.vibrani.com/Palestinians.htm P.S. from Ben Jabo--Even though I have requested it many times, nobody seems to know where I can locate any of the following: 1- Palestinian TEL (that?s not a telephone booth) 2- Ancient Palestinian coinage (Roman era or prior) NOT Mandate coins 3- Palestinian Artifacts (Roman era or prior) Note: Ancient camel & donkey dung are not acceptable--

I can't imagine anyone being happy with the British police's (in)action during and after the Menendes killing. Even if it was a matter of 'understandable human error', it can't possibly justify other, intentional wrongdoings.

"The arabs had nothing to do with the Holocaust - and could not understand why the surviving Jews did not return to their homes in Europe. " Good point Palestinian Brit And we Europeans have nothing to do with your suffering under dictatorial goverments in your countries and can't understand why you came to our homeland like tsunami destroying our lives,culture,traditions forcing people to leave their cities,even countries.Do you think you are welcomme in Europe?I bet you dream of fighting remaining Europeans in the next century to chase them from "your lands".So much for `a land without people for a people without a land."

Well said Massoud Levy. After ONE terrorist attack, the British police mowed down an innocent man and then said "Oops, sorry". That of course, was after they lied through their teeth saying he was wearing a suspiciously big overcoat in the middle of summer and that he was carrying a suspicious bag. Oh dear, when the shoe's on the other foot it certainly is a different story. Poor police were nervous, under pressure, etc. etc. You Israel-haters have one rule for your own countries and another rule for Israel.

If you think he hasnt been tortured you dont know these people. Did you see what happened to the 2 reserve soldiers who took a wrong turn into Ramallah? They had their innards ripped out by people bare hands, for God sake. Then their bodies were tied to the back of a car and driven around the town square. These are not people with a value for human life.

1. No children are detained w/out trial. Children = Youths caught lobbing molotov cocktails, rocks, etc, carrying M-16s or Kalachnikovs, "couriers" for bomb-belts, explosives and other material for suicide bombings. Grow up! 2. "Elected partliamentary representatives" are still Hamas members and Hamas is a terrorist organisation - no immunity for them! As in "Diplomatic Immunity" when Mel Gibson shot the baddie. 3. Settlers homes have been destroyed all over Sinai, they were left intact after pullout from Gaza but Gazans wrecked them all. Plenty of settlers homes have been evacuated and destroyed. Palestinians' homes are demolished as deterrent for sons to carry out suicide bombings. Their families usually rejoice at such bombings and get money in reward from Pals and abroad. 4. There are no racist laws here - name some. 5. If you read other sources apart from Ha'aretz you would know maj of Israelis totally behind government and policies. Try living w/terror a few yrs then talk!

Felix you twit. The state of Israel doesn't represent Judaism- it is the opposite of Judaism. You can't follow the laws of Judaism AND be an active zionist, and you certainly can't follow the laws of God and invade a country, murder it's natives and steal all the land.. you simply need to separate the two- Zionists are the Opposite of Jews

Jeez- I hear that stupid defense all the time- that you can't understand what it's like to be in Israel and that's why you abuse the crap out of the palestinians. Problem is you are too young and too stupid to realize you are a foreign invader that is no better than the Nazi invasion of Poland. You have no right to be there and you stole the land through use of force and mass murder- so.. you have to be an idiot to be an Israeli- it's not us who are the idiots for pointing out you are exactly like the Nazis, all the way down to the walled neighborhoods, special badges, disappearing protestors in the night, and endless checkpoints where bully guards abuse the defenseless in a sick holocaust.

Extraordinary means techniques of interrogation that only the most sadistic Gestapo agent would enjoy or approve of. But then the Gestapo were just "Conservative" policemen. Which is to say that they were sadistic monsters. Like, . . .

Say how long you been a volunteer.It does explain why the IDF is so screwed up.

A true light among the nations (which Israel really is) does not mean that jews will lay down and let some savage people kill their children. That means they will fight back and will fight back hard. And that is what Israel, a true light among all the nations, is doing. If u can not see it, then close your eyes. Obviously, u don't know anything aboout the history of this region. Please go lran, but not from BBC and CNN

Ibrahim, You are so smart, Israelis have nothing else to do, they get the peaceful palastinians and just torture them for fun? right? Has it ever crossed your mind that the Pals deserve what they are getting? didn't they say they will kill and murder as much as they can? do u expect greeting cards from Israelis? do u expect new cars for suicide bombers, so they start feeling good and stop acting so stupid? Grow up man

Israeli spooks protecting Americans, by torturing Palestinians? Amazing.

As much as I disagree with torture, but majority of these people are not civilians. Civilianz don't strap bombs around their waist and blow up people. These are criminals and deserve what they get

Lola, when u say Israel is light years behind Eurpean democracies, I really like to see how they react if they are bombed every day with NO reason. Remember British agents were shooting to anything that moved the day London was bombed? and that was only a one day even, in Israel it is all the time. No Lola, Israel is light years ahead, u just don't see it.

Yes, Palestinian Jews and Arabs did live side by side until 1948. You might remember that the Arabs then lost their homeland in order that the Jews might have a new one. The arabs had nothing to do with the Holocaust - and could not understand why the surviving Jews did not return to their homes in Europe. The creation of the Jewish Homeland was a catastrophe for the Palestinians on whose land that homeland was built. So much for 'a land without people for a people without a land."

The practices of this agency makes me want to vomit. They are so low on the food change of what constitute moral and just behavior. I am so glad someone has the guts to speak up and thwart their abuse of power and violations in Palestinian Human rights and international law.

By using torture, Israel is leaving its soldiers open to being tortured.

Bernard were you going to explain to everybody your dealing with the "presidents office in egypt"? and your "non-profit" organization / terrorist slush fund??? or is that a different Bernard Ross???

Woah! woah...what is all this "ninja" talk I dont get it, no seriously what does "we as a country of ninjas" mean, where are you from ninja boy? what is your ninja code?, can I join the group? or is it a secret organization, where only the strong ninjas survive??? How did you even escape the nut house? oh I forgot your a ninja!!! silly me I apologize!!! on a serious note to answer your question...I am a man, I am an american volunteer in an israeli counter terror commando unit and by the way (I too fight with only a gun and knife) just like your poor inoccent hezzbolah and hamas. I am sorry us Israeli commando's arent as "Brave" as your "american Ninja" team but we try, and by the way I am from "America", boston to be exact, I am only here for the Army..So ninja boy once again your wrong and tell santa clause I say Hi..tough guy! Oh and there were no jewish terrorist your friends just called it "the jewish issue" not "jewish ninja issue". I spilt the same blood in the same mud with USA

I have never heard so much pure horsepucky from one keyboard--You're as much a Ninja as I am an Arab--You wouldn't have the guts to face actual combat, you would be too busy loosening your belt so you could relieve yourself of the fear that permeats your bowels--

Well we could ask the same of the IDF...and you...how many houses of yours have been demolished? How many friends have you lost from missiles? How much of your land has been taken from you? You see volunteer IDF guy (or girl,whichever the case) us American Ninjas believe in the rule of law, if anything goes, then how can we condemn what the germans did when they were fighting their jewish terrorists? or Stalin? If we as a country of Ninjas are going to take the moral high ground in any region how can we then do this? Although there has not been much violence in the diaspora, this does not mean that it can't happen, due in part, as a result to the actions that the IDF takes using heavy weapons, planes and armanent on civilian people with at most a machine gun or a makeshift missile (brave IDF, brave IDF)....Voluntter IDF I suggest that you read more of the ways of us American Ninjas, we created a great society in America, many Israelis come to live here, Ninja style.

Ibrahim, when are you planning your attack??? Your a terrist right?? or do you just talk like one and support there cause? do you fund them? Do you support them with info? what is your role in the terror? or are you just bored and dont know what to do with your trust fund that was filled by the blood of your forefathers fighting for the survival of the people you now fight against? or are you just an antisemite because you dont know any better and just want to fit in? Well talk is cheap time to back up your foolish uneducated comments with actual facts not just CNN or aljizera quotes. I hope I see you trying to cross over our fence some day...

Once again we have a moron amongst us with a thesaurus next to his UN donated computer, I would normaly say check your facts but you my friend are so far gone I dont know what to recommend except maybe you and "Koffi (Mohammed) Annan" should start a book club together, maybe send out an ivitation to your friends in north korea and Iran. As disgusting as you people are when you take time out from killing jews and infadels to write something you people are kinda creative in a miss- educated american history X sorta war, next book on your list Mein Kampf.

This scar on humanity must end soon.A one state solution is the only way to end this evil entity.

mr.volunteer is far and away the funniest guy that has ever graced these pages,though not necessarily the wittiest.i certainly hope to read more of his musings and escapades.all the best mr.v.

You claim "We are a lawful country with a high code of morals." You detain children without trial, you kidnap elected parliamentary representatives, you allow Jewish dwellings built without planning permission to stand whilst demolishing Arab ones, you bomb protected humanitarian targets, your Parliament passes racist and discriminatory laws, and even your own population is turning against you - mothers, parents, studnets in a myriad of human rights organisations sickened by your barbaric and repressive subjugation of a foreign race. If this is what you call lawful with high morals Goebbels' ghost would be wetting himself with derisive laughter.

Go back to Arabia, the first of many lands stolen from Jews. Not one more inch for the Horde.

I can't blame the British for doing worse to you. Terrorists stick together against a common foe, but when that foe is out of reach, you all turn on each other like mad dogs.

"If one creates a state by driving a people off their land, one has to expect this sort of outcome." Colin, is your hypocrisy intentional or is it merely the fact that you don't know the history of your own state? Well, if you never learned this in school, let me just explain it to you in simple terms. California was originally inhabited by animals and plants. Later, Asians migrated across the Bering Strait and settled down in California. Later, the Spanish came, claimed and occupied the area and Juniperro Serra set up his missions. After the Mexicans gained independence from Spain, they took over California and all the other Spanish possessions in North America. And then, my friend, came the gringos like you: a tiny minority of Americans revolted against the Mexican government and took over California; they declared The Bear Flag Republic and petitioned and then joined the Union. And what about the poor Mexicans there? They became 2nd class citizens. So who are you to criticize?

If you think this is torture, wait until Indonesians take over your country.

Colin Wright, I see you are trying very hard to sound smart or educated, but you are not either you are just dumb! sorry but thats my only response, Learn your history if your pea sized brain will allow it and you would know that the jews lived side by side with the jordanians (palestinians) until the war of 48 after we had just survived the holocaust, the combined arab armies tried to wipe the remaining jews that just got out of death camps off the map. well when the arabs attacked the palestinians decided to join there brothers in killing the rest of the jews hence leaving israel to finish the murders of jews therfore we (israelis) did not kick anybody out of their land! they in fact left and we have a arab population who still lives in israel! so learn a little about the world and please refrain from writting, it makes all of us a little dumber!!! thanks

If waiting three days for a Trial is "Torture", every legal system in the world is guilty. Then again, these are guys who think it is "Torture" to have female prison guards see them. The sooner they reconquer Spain the better. Where's Franco when you need him?

The triple standards have been ludicrous. Most western countries have made such exceptions from time to time and have especially loose standards when it comes to the speedy processing of foreign detainees. As non-western countries go, no one complained when Egypt held Hundreds of Palestinians for Months in an Airport Terminal because Gaza was Overthrown. I would not be especially bothered if the terrorist I had in custody died trying to escape.

As much as the civilized world abhors most forms of torture, I doubt whether any country is going to prevent this widespread practice. My reasons are: 1) the psychological profiles of police personnel generally parallels that of criminals, and 2) the citizens of even the most "civilized" countries believe in "preventive attacks", whether warranted or not. In effect, most people "selectively" follow the teachings of their own religions. At best we can minimize torture interrogations by severely punishing the offenders and at least two to three levels of authority higher. In this way, the superiors of the wrongdoers will, over time, learn how to gain "operational control" over their staff.

The light unto the nations. Whatever one might argue about the need for such measures, they wouldn't be happening if Israel wasn't there. All these evils flow inexorably from the fundamental evil of creating modern Israel in the first place. The particular injustices flow from the general one. If one creates a state by driving a people off their land, one has to expect this sort of outcome.

"American Ninja" since obviously "you live in a Movie" as we like to say in the Army (where we defend jews and not the opposite as in your case) I think you have never had anyone in your family killed by terrorists and I feel that you dont actually know what you are talking about...how many terror attacks have there been on "Diaspora Jews" in Jamaica? leave the big talk to the men that will fight for there people and study a little! bye the way, you know that even women in our country fight for jews...whats your excuse...I am asumming you were not in the US army neither which means you should probably learn to shut your mouth and listen to the real men talk! thanks

The actions taken by Shin Bet and the IDF help keep the number of Israeli school children being killed by Qassams to a minimum. Also the suicide bombings in resturants and buses have come to a halt. The Arabs living in Israel proper aren't living in hell because they're peaceful. The Gazans are bearing the brunt of their support for terrorist activity. They have damned the innocent amongst them to suffer along with the guilty.

It is good enough for Israel to be 10,000 times for humane that the other side... When you write 10,000 articles about the "imperfections" of the other side, then go ahead and discuss the Jews...

Ibrahim, when are you planning your attack??? Your a terrist right?? or do you just talk like one and support there cause? do you fund them? Do you support them with info? what is your role in the terror? or are you just bored and dont know what to do with your trust fund that was filled by the blood of your forefathers fighting for the survival of the people you now fight against? or are you just an antisemite because you dont know any better and just want to fit in? Well talk is cheap time to back up your foolish uneducated comments with actual facts not just CNN or aljizera quotes. I hope I see you trying to cross over our fence some day...

If they do not have any rights, then do jews captured or living in say Iran have any rights? What if they feel that their backhanded support of Israel is dettimental to their nation (whether Iran or say France or Germany) so any rights that they might have had should be taken away for the good of the state....see where your logic leads? In that world, the jews who are dispersed, as you are in Jamaica (how's the weather) have more too lose.

The Israelis get off on their little game of whack-a-mole Keep killing them and making their lives hell...so as to generate more frustration....leading to more militancy....thus generating the need for more security measures... Israeli occupation continues.

None of these idiots here can comprehend the reality of Israeli life. Thanks for your post.

Britain and U.S. also have special emergency anti-terrorist laws. There is one set of rules for "ordinary" criminals and another set of rules for terrorists. So to all you anti-Israels, dont play the high and mighty. This is probably the case in many Western democracies since 9/11. This just goes to show how wrong the idiots are who claim Israel holds prisoners (mostly women and children, of course!) in underground dungeons, while systematically torturing them. What a load of crap!!! We are a lawful country with a high code of morals.

Lola you should go back to scholl, to learn how to read.

Wow you hippy, Demi, antisemetic bastards, you supposed jews that live in the US and abroad, you all should be ashamed, how you call yourself jews...You would hang your mother out to dry wouldnt you? You have no idea what it feels like to live with terror day in and day out! you dont know what it feels like to have your children killed by a terrorist while they learn in there kindergarden, you bastards should be ashamed, I hope your family is the next to die in an attack by the same person you so need to protect, I would love to see how you feel when your safe little bubble becomes the target, a sept 11th every other day thats what we faced for 60 yrs, you need to look at the facts, you need to learn about the real world. you need to be scared and afraid that your children or husband wont come home tonight and wont die riding the bus home or playing in the school playground or in a resturaunt or at your holiday meal, then post your posting,From an American volunteer in a commando unit

Th only matter of importance is the safety of Israeli;the enemy is a hostile terrorist state intent on murdering jews. As such all is valid as genva conventions do not apply.

Only 17%? It should be more broadly used for better results. The end justifies the means. #1, I'm not sure from your response if you agree that it should be their only right.

Is it used on the Children that Israel imprisons?

TORTURE ! PURE AND SIMPLE. George would be proud.

jesus. just using emergency regulations or what ? israel can be proud of his secret service! the only democracy in the mideast you say.... pitty that it's still lightyears from the european democracies I say.

Are Israeli euphemisms for torture. Why don't Israelis just admit they like torturing non-Jews? Why the artful phrases and pathetic fake indignation when confronted with the truth?

the Shin Bet has always behaved like this. It is a criminal apparatus belonging to a criminal army which has a criminal state. You people murder and torture civilians and then you lie about it. You are worse than history's worst. One day, Israel will disappear...because of its criminality.

And what of the concern at the torture being used on Palestinian prisoners, men and women, all ages included? Lousy reporting on a story that has so much more to tell.

Sounds like a formula that works. Keep up the good work!

Oh my God--I'm having an attack of conscience! I'm losing the "moral high ground", help!!! Gee, I hope that the detainees weren't inconvenienced at all. Did they get MacDonalds? Some ice cream? Get some therapy and were able to talk to an imam? Let's be civilized-afterall, they are!

the only right the palestinians have is the right to be mistreated! Not that that is a new phenomonon.