Netanyahu: Israel will never cede Jordan Valley

Cherry picking from the Koran to condemn all Muslims serves no good purpose other than to inflame, but then maybe that was your intention. While we're cherry picking, what is the basis for Israel's claim that Palestine is its ancestral home? The slaughter of the Canaanites who occupied the land before them? How does that provide a moral footing for any claim to Palestine?

It's interesting, that you write with such authority about a subject you seem to know little, or nothing, about. The Palestinians are the original inhabitants of Palestine. When Joshua led the Israelites into Canaan, also known at that time as Palestine, the land was inhabited by (among others) semite tribes, Hittites, Amorites and Jebusites. The Jebusites had already built Jerusalem, and inhabited it for over a 100 years after the Israelites entered Canaan.They weren't called Arabs then, and the Israelites weren't called Jews. In the academic world there are many notable historians and scholars who have determined that the Jebusites are the forebears of Palestinians. According to the New York University School of Medicine, and the National Academy of Sciences, Middle East Jewish men and Palestinian, Lebanese and Syrian men have the same genetic signature, different from any other non-Jews in the world.

the British rewarding the foreign hashemite clan for their help in defeating the Ottoman's.Since there never was a Palestinian arab which is what Jews were called no Pal arab history or culture with Arafat as their first leader, they should go back to the countries they came from.Many of the names have Iraqi, Lebanese,Syrian ancestory and the nazi Mufti Husseni and his nephew Egyptain born Arafat encouraged immigration. The Bedouins who were there in 48 were told to leaveby Arab regimes not Israel .900,000 jews were ethnically cleansed from arab lands. The Palestinian arab was a creation and already has Jordan and Gaza and Iraq,Saudi,Lebanon, Syria and many homes. Those that will not give up armed struggle and continue to adhere to the cult of hate will never have a state because they already have many!! Read http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/ http://www.palwatch.org/

memory and anti semitism which is what most of your postings are.there never was a Palestinian national identity no culture no history. In 1867, Mark Twain went to the Holy land and remarked that the whole area was underpopulated and was swampland. On the fringes were villages of Jews and Bedouins and in Jerusalem resided mainly Jews. No Matter how you twist it the Jews have a 3000 year connection to Israel the arabs haven't! Egyptain born Arafat, nephew of the mufti Husseni co writer of the final solution.Palestinians were Jewish and no arab was called this. There is no history anywhere of a palestinian arab.your quotes on Ben Gurion are out of context.The Palestinian arabs were created as a group by the mufti to destroy not to build.Israel was meant to be as big as the San Remos agreement and that indluded parts that covered areas of the west bank.Mohammed was never in Jlem and the temple is 3000 years old and a mosque was not built until way after Mohammed's death.

Israel is a state lacking any legal basis for sovereignty in Jerusalem. UN resolution 181, under which Israel declared statehood, declared Jerusalem to be an international city, "corpus separatum," managed under UN auspices. In 1980 the Knesset passed the ?Basic Law? which declared Jerusalem complete and unified the capital of Israel. The Basic Law is a violation of UN Security Council resolutions 476 & 478 and thus a violation of Article 49 of the 4th Geneva Convention, and therefore a war crime. UNSC resolution 478 declared the Knesset Basic Law null and void and 476 declares any demographic changes in Jerusalem a violation of international law and a serious violation of the Geneva Convention. Rabin was wrong. His concept of Palestine contravened international law. According to UNSC resolution 242, continued Israeli occupation of Palestinian territory is in violation of international law. The WB will not remain under Israeli rule.

One wonders where you have been for the last 42 years, but it is time for you to learn the following: On 14 May 1948, under UN resolution 181, Israel declared statehood, with sovereignty within precisely, meticulously detailed borders dictated by the resolution. The remainder of the territory in Palestine was Palestinian. In 1967, Israel occupied the remainder of Palestine. UN resolution 242 then demanded Israel withdraw from the occupied territories. Israel has refused and is in violation of that resolution, and thus international law. Therefore, the West Bank and Gaza, and Jerusalem for that matter, are not legally part of Israel. Israeli built settlements on the occupied lands, the blockade of Gaza, collective punishment of a civilian population, and the annexation of Jerusalem are violations of articles of the 4th Geneva Convention. Breaches of the Convention are considered war crimes.

I'm not sure if we should consider this point of view as violently blood-thirsty or delusional. We live in the 21st century my dear. There will be NO further eviction or transfer of native Palestinians to Jordan or elsewhere. The remaining Palestinians are steadfast and have learned from the mistakes of 1948. It's about time Zionists wake up from their fantasy. The choice is as your Minister of Defense outlined 1. Apartheid non democratic state or 2. Viable 2 state solution for 2 people with equitable arrangements. You know your answer deep down. Stop dwelling in the past, we're not in 1865 anymore.

could go along with racist laws that ultimately in the end led to the holocaust....now I know! There must have been alot of people like you around....with Obama president you probably daydream of the good old Jim Crow days too ....oh happy times....PEACE NEVER?

How you gonna take the Damascus ??? Like a hot knife through butter, baby. Just let the nutty eye doctor try it. He won't know what hit him. Labby, will you still cry your tears of occupation. Tough, Asssad's head will spin, surely he will no longer have a country to be a dictator over. Waaaa, waaaa,

We want Peace, too. Just not YOUR Peace. Israel will not commit suicide, just for the sake of a HOLLOW peace all of you suggest. Next, after "Peace" will be the continued dismemberment of Israel. Sorry, NO CIGAR. Possession is 9/10 of the Law. It is the Pals who have to give concessions. Enough of the fantasies, demands, and lies. ENOUGH.

Let's see, no to withdrawel from Jerusalem, no to moving the colonists, no to freedom of movement, no Jordan valley and of course, no preconditions. Hmmm, just who in the world is buying this bs?

to ks, so you are saying it was never a country named palestine, but than u should know that before 1942, there was no country named isrl either. so lets do this take out every jew and every pal and return those lands to jordan and syria. because if it is their land we had no right to give it to the european jews. thats it, things are now the way they should be. no isrl and no plaestine, everything is final.

i can almost hear obama or hiliary shouting condemn you ... i can hear Ban for UN saying dont it israel again otherwise i will think about thinking of doing something... france sarkozy will shout we dont like it... gordon brown bad israel bad.. then obama will go complain about republicans, Ban won't do anything at all.. Sarkozy will check out some other woman's behind in front of national news media.. gordon will try to fool britions that israel didnt mean any harm by faking ur identity and killing people.. case end pro israeli say that israel has rite to defend themselve NO MATTER WHAT. i ask you a question what rites do these people have to DEFEND THEMSEVLVES from this ethnic cleansing... no wait. they don't have any rites bcuz Jews were promised Jeruselem. forgot about that. How come I don't hear about any Jews homes demo to built a park.. after this HOW CAN ISRAEL COMPLAIN AOBUT ANYTHING? if i m thrown out of my house then what reason would i have to live...

so let me get str8 Gianni. you mentioned 29 Hebron incident where innocent Jews were killed-then someone can make an argument that what happend in 1948 (creation of israel) can never be forgetton by any arabs. u do know any independent state has an army and for your info - currently palestinains forces are being trained by America... hamas came into being in 1980s.. israel started occupying land in 1967 east jers gaza and west bank... dont care who started the war israel jordan eygpt syria whoever.... international law says that you cannot claim land via war offensive or defensively... israel cannot trust your motives and actions. a lot of people a lot of people whole a lot of people massive amount of people can say the same thing about Jews. its amazes me to hear that someone can come by backyard, setup cameras in living room & backyard, throw me out, abuse my kids, and when i rise up to face that oppression - i m a terrorist.. wud you the same thing for oscar schindler

It seems that the lack of a violent Palestinian response to Bibi's national heritage scheme he's throwing out yet another bait. It is disgusting how little the Western countries do to prevent the Israeli leaders from sabotaging any chance of a peace deal.

ara you. "Another long cut and paste repeat post from our friend Lahbras citing quotes from long gone politicians from years ago."MM The point of those quoTes is that they are from successive Ilsraeli leaders all proffering the same message. "There will never be a Palestine". It is stil the message in the likud Charter of today. But you cannot argue so you resort to the tired old anti semitism card. Say Miami man---what,s with the "we will be here long after you have gone. " --you live in Miami---USA. " Oh by the way--I dont hate you--I detest the Government of Israel and it,s criminal policies. They disgust me as do those who try to defend them.

Yonatan. you have just explained opposite of meaning of Koran and Islam and Hadith. Please read one time Koran and find how wrong you are. you have prejudged out of hatred and extremism.

Practice what you preach KS, you are on Mexican land that was stolen from them no treatise ever signed. So hand over your deed to the relevant land ministry in Mexico as a gesture of your resolve. The Palestinians do trace back to the first people that were there by the way, as much as you try to deny it.They have more right to live where they do than you do living in California.

Strategic importance? LOL more like water rights Bibi just like you want the Litani's water. "rockets don't enter the Palestinian territory" Rockets do enter just that they are delivered from Israeli planes. If any other country was annexing another for water rights there would be a war, but Israel is the "special" child that doesn't have to follow the laws everyone else does. Lebanon should divert all the water heading south and put it in a pipeline for the exclusive use of the Palestinians see how Israel likes it. After all that is what Israel already does to the Palestinians.

The U.S. doesn't have any money to waste any more and giving billions away each year to this Israeli government is far worse than wasting it.

Considering the flow of thousands of tons of Iranian weapons into Gaza from a "demilitarized" Sinai - brazen treaty violations by an Egypt that signed a peace agreement with Israel - "full peace" for "every grain of sand". Well, Israel has learned not to trust Arab peace agreements, so there isn't going to be a border between a PA state and Jordan. Israel will retain (fortify and heavily patrol) a 5-10 km wide strip along the Jordan river, a waterless zone where no Arabs live anyway, totally preventing the arms smuggling that would result in rockets landing on Tel Aviv or Jerusalem. Period. Its a good thing, actually, since it makes the old Green Line irrelevant for security purposes, and Israel can be more generous with land swaps and final borders. But thats not how Arabs see UNSC242's "secure and recognized borders free from threats or acts of war"...they WANT the option to launch threats or acts of war!!! Bibi is exactly right on this one, you won't see any compromise on this.None.

Of the occupied Palestinian territory, we now know Israel has no intention of giving up East Jerusalem, the biggest West Bank settlements, nor the Jordan Valley. The Palestinian state to which Netanyahu if "committed" must come from what is left, i.e several non-contiguous bantustans, with travel controlled by massa Israel. Will the world accept this? Based on what we have seen over 60 years, of course! What a travesty of justice. Expect USA, EU, Russia etc. to denounce this statment, then nothing; not even the threat of sanctions.

Another long cut and paste repeat post from our friend Lahbras citing quotes from long gone politicians from years ago. I hope that your financial backers are not paying you for this one as you posted it in reply to another story some weeks ago. It seems that you cannot even find news ways to express your hatred and loathing for us. Not to worry Lahbras even though you constantly wish death and destruction upon our people and our land we will be here long after you have gone. What a life you must have so filled with loathing and hate. It seems to be a Irish thing.

Israel is it,s own worst enemy---it has never wanted peace as can be see in the item below. Read it Gianni and learn truths you have had deleted from your memory bank. "As it will be demonstrated below, the decision by the Zionist leadership to accept the 1947 proposed UN GA Partition plan was nothing but a smoke screen, which was done solely to gain international recognition and support. This deception was a political ploy to gain initial international legitimacy for the existence of the "Jewish state", and this was well known to the Palestinian people. The reader is urged to contemplate the following Zionist leaders' quotes in an open mind. Note that most, if not all, of the quotes below are dated before the entry of any single Arab Army into British Mandated Palestine: * In a letter Chaim Weizmann sent to the Palestine-British high Commissioner, while the Peel Commission was convening in 1937, he stated: "We shall spread in the whole country in the course of time ..... this is only an arrangement for the next 25 to 30 years." (Expulsion Of The Palestinians, p. 66) * Ben-Gurion emphasized that the acceptance of the Peel Commission would not imply static borders for the future "Jewish state". In a letter Ben-Gurion sent to his son in 1937, he wrote: "No Zionist can forgo the smallest portion of the Land Of Israel. [A] Jewish state in part [of Palestine] is not an end, but a beginning ..... Our possession is important not only for itself ... through this we increase our power, and every increase in power facilitates getting hold of the country in its entirety. Establishing a [small] state .... will serve as a very potent lever in our historical effort to redeem the whole country." (Righteous Victims, p. 138) * In 1938, Ben-Gurion made it clear of his support for the "Jewish state" on part of Palestine was only as a stepping ground for a complete conquest. He wrote: "[I am] satisfied with part of the country, but on the basis of the assumption that after we build up a strong force following the establishment of the state--we will abolish the partition of the country and we will expand to the whole Land of Israel." (Expulsion Of The Palestinians, p. 107 & One Palestine Complete, p. 403) * One day after the UN vote to partition Palestine, Menachem Begin, the commander of the Irgun gang and Israel's future Prime Minister between 1977-1983, proclaimed: "The Partition of Palestine is illegal. It will never be recognized .... Jerusalem was and will for ever be our capital. Eretz Israel will be restored to the people of Israel. All of it. And for Ever." (Iron Wall p. 25) * ""Shamir has said Israel must keep the territories in order to accommodate the immigrants. "A great aliyah [immigration]," he said, "requires a Greater Israel."(5) He has insisted that, although Soviet Jews are not being directed to the territories, any Jew has the right to live anywhere in the land of Israel, which for most Israelis includes the territories.

Israel their true borders.The British were wrong to renege and give Syria GH and Jordan lands that should be Israel. The Oslo agreement was wrong cause the Pal arabs didn't exist no culture no history before Israel and the arabs should all be in Jordan from the area. Israel should stand its ground. Britain is still illegally taking the Falkland which isn't theirs. Israel and the Jordan Valley, Jerusalem, GH, WB are Jewish. The PA and Hamas' charter both indicating the destruction of Israel as their goal shows that the Pal arab with no history in the area should give up armed struggle and stop allowing Hamas and PA kill their own children

"Iran sactions are nigh"? Sure thats why Clinton said yesterday it would take several months to put sactions in place. There will be no more sactions or Europe will freeze next winter. Israel cannot win a war against Iran or they would have attacked by now. The Iranians would literally rain missles on Israel. Sure Israel can nuke them and then they can deal with chem and bio warheads. No little Israel just has to learn how to be good boys.

"There is nothing Labharasss barks about that makes this land occupied, Israel won this land due to Assad Sr. stupidity. Assad Jr will make the same mistake, and lose Damascus."gianni barks from Florida--big hero eh. What makes the Golan Occupied is intl Law --as in UNSCR 497 ever herad of Intl law Gianni. Oh by the way how you gonna taka the Damascus---Huh Spartacus. Lay of the vino gianni---its a wrapinga youra braina.

Every month or so we get a glimpse of the real regime in Israel whether it is Netanyahu , the settler/thug Lieberman or Ayalon. If anyone had any doubts about israel's intentions for peace this is proof. In the name of security Israel will never allow a viable Palestinian state to exist. Israel will only allow a fractured, non-contiguous, demilitarized, area under Israeli occupation to be Palestine, and anyone in their right mind would reject israel's criminal and illegal behavior. The world should stand up against Israel. This is apartheid not a two State solution. By the way, a lot of this has to do with water and how Israel is stealing that resource as well. I am sickened by Israel and the lack of respond by the US.

It is clearer than ever that Israel will never allow an independent, viable Palestine.

Islam world is retaliating against western oppression and colonialism - biggest current offender is Israel, the apartheid state. You wasted a lot of time writing posts to support an entirely erroneous position.

It's so much easier to do when you remember 9-11, Ft. Hood, Mumbai, too many attacks on Israel to count, and the myriad of other calling cards from the extreme outer edge of insanity. The list is endless as is the terror and the complete repugnant hatred of these madmen. Bibi couldn't be more accurate or more clear. Thank you Bibi. We agree.

This is one reason why Israel has such a poor international reputation - it's leaders continually tell barefaced lies and are always trying to trick someone out of something. They act just like common crooks. So Israel is setting 13 preconditions for giving back (some of the) land the UN awarded to the Arabs, while saying there are no Israeli preconditions??? Netenyahu's nose must be growing very long with all these lies he tells. As Israel clearly cannot be trusted to obey the law, honour its agreements, tell the truth or behave with any morality or common sense, why doesn't the UN just take the land back, resume its custodianship under the Mandate, end the settlement enterprise forcibly and get Palestine ready for independence? No point wasting more time on a time-waster like Netanyahu.

The UN and ALL countries except Israel consider the Jordan Vally "occupied territory" to which Israel has no legal right under International law. The best Bibi can do is try to get it through negotiations which is unlikely. You see Bobby Israel gets to decide nothing. The Pals are in the drivers seat now. Why do you think Netanyhu is begging the pals to enter peace talks? Because he knows if they unilaterlly declare a state (Gaza excepted) Israel is screwed. Half the world will recognize it immediately. UN troops will secure the Pals border along the '67 lines. This will be IMPOSED on Israel. I guess Gaza just wasn't quite worth it. Now the whole world gives them "lip service" and laughs behind their back. They are no longer the victim. The Pals will soon begin daily peaceful, non violent demonstrations (to the horror of Israel) as a prelude to declaring their state.

Funny how people like to repeat the same old stories over and over again. Before 48 arab palestinians were living majoritarily on their land. Is this correct Gianni ? what was the jewish population at the time ? 10% more or less. Is that correct Gianni ? hundreds of thousands of arab palestinians were kicked out of their house and never allowed to return by people coming from all across Europe (and nothing to do with the region). Correct Gianni ? Who are the agressors ? Are palestinians the agressors ? the answer is no. Get your facts right and we'll talk again.

It's the right thing to do. The promise of the Holy Land makes no mention of allowing the enemies of Israel to destroy Israel.

funny propagandist...

And YOU, living in NY, are going to decide the fate of israelis and palestinians ??? Mind your own business for a start. Are you israeli ? are you palestinian ? What a joke.

I notice that most, if not all Israeli politicians frequently open their mouths with belligerent statements.These are probably for internal consumption. Has any one of them ever calculated the internal advantage of opening their mouths as against the external disadvantages of so doing?

in cooperation with the Israelis on security and their determination -- even in moments of high tension -- to prevent any return to the armed struggle. Like the Egyptians, the Jordanians likewise have a strong motivation to prevent the influx of weapons from across their border. Both the will and the technology exists to police the border with Jordan Netanyahu's statement is hopefully just a negotiating position from which he intends to extract stronger measures to prevent the influx of weaponry across the border. And perhaps it is also intended, to some extent, to play to domestic political concerns in Israel. But even so, as a public statement it is unnecessarily inflammatory and inimical to the interest of a peace agreement. Israel cannot talk about a peace that totally eliminates any border between Palestine and another. Netanyahu's statement was tactically foolish and morally irresponsible.

..How can one believes Bibi's lips when he says: "peace." Another crazy way to screw up ownnership of west bank land; and therefore the peace process. Congrtulations to Bibi for being so creative in his stubborness.

Eitan, Labharasss would love for Syria to have the Golan, to continue their hourly attacks. Just like the good ol' days before 1967. Sorry, we aren't giving them a do-over. There is nothing Labharasss barks about that makes this land occupied, Israel won this land due to Assad Sr. stupidity. Assad Jr will make the same mistake, and lose Damascus. Labharasss thinks you can just start a war, with no downside. Attack, and lose, no problem. You will get your land back. Attack again, lose, you get your land back again. I wish it would work this way in the casino. Gamble, lose, get your money back ;)

What choice does Israel have, since the Arabs have always been the aggressor, even before 1948 ('29 Hebron). The murder and terror has not been forgotten by any Israeli. All your points are well taken. They are a DIRECT result of Israel not being able to trust the Palestinians. Any of your items will be turned against Israel, as has been proven time and time and time again. If you get the Jordan Valley, how long will it take until rockets are smuggled in, TO BE FIRED UPON INNOCENT ISRAELIS. Or, are there no innocent Israelis, Mr. Saleh ?? The Golan ?? Look what transpired (hourly Syrian attacks) when Syria had the Golan. Palestinian Army ?? You have to be joking. Imprisoned Gazans ??? Hamas created this. Shall I continue ?? Israel cannot trust your motives and actions. The Arabs don't have a good track record. We must go by fact.

retirement squawking and bellowing about alledged anti semitism and anti Jew Racism. The nice part is you are on a losing bet. Firstly you are going to be leaving your illegal squat in occupied territory---that pleases me---not because you are a Jew---but because you are a common thief.

I suggest you look at the true history of Islam, you will find that the Prophet of Islam married Juwairiyya ( a jewish woman) at that time and because of that her clan converted to Islam. In the history, you will also discover that The great prophet entered signed a peace treaty with the jews of medina before they betrayed and undermined the treaty entered with them before they were chased out of medina. 2. You could also remember that it was the muslims that gave the jews sanctuary and involved them in the development of Spain. Also you need to investigate and find out that there are so many jews in the muslim dominated countries living side by side with each other without them (jews) been molested or threatened. Islam has spread peace throuhout history unlike zionism which only breed and spread murder, enslavement so many atrocities. A typical jew is peaceful and tolenrent, but a zionist jew is something else.

you are therefore an illegal settler. Where do you get off wninging about Jews not being allowed to live on someone elses property. Incidentaly--it is not about Jews--it is about the Citizens of Israel(Jews or Arabs) ---the Occupying Power not being allowed to live on territorry occupied by Israel---The West Bank. Eiatn the squatter knows this so spends his time screaming "Anti Semitism/Jew Hatred /Racism etc but never once mentions the Illegal squats set up in the OT wheer only Jews are allowed to live and drive. Eitan is a first class hypocrite as well as being a thief.

If the Jordan Valley will never be given away, why has Bibi instituted a building freeze against us?

The Pm, NEVER to part with East Jerusalem, thus demolishing many Arab Houses and replace them with Jewish presence. The Pm will NEVER cede Jordan Valley. The Pm will NEVER withdrawn from the Golan. The PM will NEVER stop builiding settlements on the West Bank. The PM will NEVER talk to Hamas about Gaza. The PM will NEVER allow the Palestinians to have an army. The Pm will NEVER allow the Palestinians to control their own Air Space, The Pm will NEVER allow Gazans to build their AIRPORT/ SeaPORT. The PM will NEVER allow the Gazans to fish more than 3 miles fron their shores. The PM will NEVER allow Foreingn Helps for the IMPRISONED Gazans, really what else remai9n to N E G O C I A T E with the PM. Abbas will be wised to declare their own INDEPENDENCE at the UNITED Nations NEXT SESSION. When he does he will get the WHOLE WORLD behing him.

And this guy wants anybody to believe that he is interested in the creation of a Palestinian State? What kind of Palestinian state wouldn't include the Jordan Valley? That wouldnt be a state. Just an Israel-controlled bantustan. If Israel behaves like South Africa, the world will have to respond in the same way it responded to S.Africa. BDS!!

Exclusive: EU draft on dividing Jerusalem It is on the front page of this newspaper. Then you can say that this is a way to eradicate Israel if you wish, but it is a hysteric reaction from you, not manlike at all.

war so they have a excuse to keep the west bank and gaza and the golan

The more you talk, we see YOUR utter hypocrisy. You have no clue what Apartheid is, yet you spew your trash here daily. Bibi's more dangerous than all the Mullahs of the World combined??? Either you are joking or deluded. Bibi never threatened to destroy and wipe out another country while the Mullahs do it weekly. You can't be serious. Please GET A CLUE. You are a biased, uneducated, hypocrite.

THE JORDAN VALLEY IS PALESTINIAN... Says WHO ?? Just because YOU say it, means nothing. Why did the Arabs not claim the Jordan Valley and the West Bank as a whole, prior to '67. They had it in their fingers, and risked it ALL, to destroy Israel. Sorry guys, you LOST. Now Ari "proclaims" the Jordan Valley is Palestinian. Never will be, Bibi's right. Gaza was the litmus test, and the Pals flunked in the worst way. Instead of building a State, and showing responsibility, they smuggled, rocketed, terrorized, attacked, and showed the WORLD (except those who refuse to see) what they are all about. We are NOT, NOT repeating this show in the West Bank. The Pals hate each other, much less Israel, and they flunked the test. Next...

the representatives of the palestinian People about the establishment of a state for the Palestinian people with no preconditions? Yet another lie

FIRST; I held Livni in high esteem,but her comments in the past yr *ve been,put it bluntly:"cheap".She has no style,no class,I*m disappointed.I gather politics require ability to bend after the changing currents:political climate that is,else one cracks.Netanyahu is doing excellent job and he is above all the cheap rhetoric from Livni,his homemaids or whosoever,putting unnecessary presssure on him,which sabotages his politics.The PM does not deserve any of this.He knows what he is doing.I trust him.We need a man in the reins, who is building Israel,not tearing her down. Peace with Egypt,Jordan works as long as the U.S. keeps paying for it.This is not the kind of peace we*d like to have,but it is showing that genuine peace with our neighbors is as much as impossible. SECONDLY: Russia*s reluctance to sanction Iran lies with her self-interests;what*d inspire her more than to become a superpower competing with the U.S.on the world dominion,for which aligning with Iran gives her a chance.

how Israel keeps calling for talks without preconditions when it sets one precondition after another? East Jerusalem is non-negotiable. We'll never leave the Jordan Valley. We'll hold on to the settlementblocks. We'll always keep a force in the Westbank. What exactly is there left to talk about?

The Jordan Valley is Palestinian. There can be no peace as long as the Israeli gvt occupies the West Bank. I find it sad that Bibi sees Israel's future as a neverending tale of occupation.

the extremist jews you have in israel? Clean your backyard than speak about other backyard

USA armed Iraq against Iran, USA removed democratically elected Iranian government, USA put bases in Saudi Arabia, USA & UK invaded Iraq for oil, USA bombed & invaded Afghanistan, USA put bases in Lebanon, USA bombed Libya, USA supports Israel without question and uses it's veto power, USA has over 700 hundred military bases worldwide, USA holds prisoners without trial, USA tortures muslims in secret bases," In God we trust" conclusion; dangerous Christians out to take over the world...

Israeli sovereignty and will include in addition the suburbs of Giv'at Zeev, Ma'aleh Adumim, and Gush Etzion. 2) The Jordan Valley must be viewed in the widest sense of the word and must remain under Israeli rule. 3) A future Palestinian state will be less than a regular state. These were the observations of the Prince of Peace, the late Yitzhak Rabin, in his speech before the Knesset, Israel's Parliament, in October 1995. Rabin's peace plan was as rational and fair as Netanyahu, yet contrary to that which the Muslim-Arabs present: the elimination of the nation-state of the Jewish people stage-by-stage. No Jew, within or without Israel, will accept their approach for the Jews to commit national suicide. It is time rational people worldwide realized it, appreciated it and internalized it.

You know nothing about the Koran except the usual cherry picked twaddle.

And who will stop him? Where is Israeli democracy?

in his quest to convince the world---Israel is a peace seeking nation. Yeah sure it is Netanyahu---and the eleikud Charter is all the proof we need.

"Never" goes along way in framing ANY peace negotiations but thats the point after all, Likud and Bibi will do ANYTHING to stop peace! How else to build and expand?......PEACE NEVER?

What happened to the Jews of France? Does their memory disturb your peaceful Europe? We will build, settle and defend our nation in the land of Israel. Those who attack us have no claim to borders they attempted to erase. Physician, scientist, and patriot.

So what? What difference does it make?

Western politicians are desperate to avoid confronting Israel and the Jwish lobbies in their own countries, and personally, I have no real wish for a confrontation between Europe and Israel but there doesn't seem ultimately any other way. Bibi and his government make it clear time after time, that they have absolutely no intention of giving up the West Bank or of allowing the Palestinians to live in safety and dignity in a country of their own. It's Kosovo all over again. Eventually the world is going to have to say enough is enough, and kick Israel out of the West Bank.

They should put your silly claim to rest.

As evil as Netanyahu is (a man with blood on his hands up to his armpit)he is in no position to point a finger at any of Iran's leaders. Israelis are so envious of Iran's technological advancements and vast oil wealth, they have a lot of trouble sleeping at night.

Pot? Kettle? Black?

Well, he's close; the outta' control train certainly has a name that begins with "I". So give him some marks for effort, but mark him down on accuracy. Can. Do. Better.

Russia let its agents run amok too - they assasinated Litvinenko in the UK with radioactive material. Then, because the UK police got too close they got the suspect immunity by "electing" him to parliament. All this because Litvinenko was telling the truth about Putin. Israel by contrast is suspected to have assassinated a terrorist. Esther, what you are really saying is that because Israel is small it should just roll over and take it up the bum from all comers. If Israel doesn't stand up for itself then who will?

"Israel ia a runaway train slipping away from world control" BN Could not have put it better myself. He forgotn to mentiom that he sabotaged the braking system. Oh well---it was a nice try.

You are obviously German. This I conclude from both your name and from your use of the German accusative article "den", instead of the English "the" ("even in den Western World"). Tell me, bitte, Herr Major

It is clear from my two previous postings on this subject that the major source of ideology-inspired violence in the world today is Islam. Islamic violence is directed against both non-Muslims, and other Muslims of differing beliefs. In fact, more Moslems have been killed by other Moslems than by anyone else. Such an ideology or belief system, that brings death and suffering to so many people in so many places and for so protracted a period, must be considered evil, no matter what its beliefs and goals may be, and no matter who its believers and followers may be. It is therefore imperative that such an ideology or belief system be, at the least, contained by whatever means possible.

Afghanistan Algeria Darfur Egypt Iraq Nigeria (50.5 % Muslims) Pakistan Somalia Yemen All are countries or regions in the Muslim World (Nigeria isn't officially a Muslim state, but 50.5 % of its population is Muslim.) All of these areas have been the scenes of Islam-inspired killings, bombings, insurgencies, civil wars and other violence UNCONNECTED WITH ISRAEL. (Egypt - Muslim violence against Coptic Christians; Iraq - Muslim violence against Assyrian Christians; also Shi'ite Muslim violence against Sunni Muslims and vice versa)

Anyway, that's what comes from polls all over the Western world, including in the EU...

Buenos Aires Ft. Hood London Madrid Mumbai New York The Phillipines Thailand None of these locations are in the Muslim World. All of these locations have been, or still are, the scenes of Islam-inspired killings, bombings, Insurgencies and other violence. None of this violence has any connection with Israel, with the exception of Buenos Aires, where the Jewish Community Center was bombed by Hezbollah with Iranian aid, with many casualties (anti-"Zionism", of course)

What fuels Iranian extremism is not Israel, nor the US, nor anything else but the religion of Islam. Anyone who believes in Islam and wishes to live according to all the tenets the Koran and the Hadith must be extremist and support violence against the non-Islamic world - in other words, be like Iran, the Hezbollah, al-Qaeda and the Taliban. Those Moslems who are "moderate" are simply not living according to the Koran, either out of ignorance or out of convenience. Islam cannot be "reformed", as long as the Koran is its basis. And since Islam cannot exist without the Koran, it is unreformable. The logical conclusion must be: The world cannot live in peace as long as the religion of Islam exists.

has, within a few decades, nearly achieved to destroy the world balance and is responsible for having brought and beeing bringing all kind of weapons may, in a near future, cause the end of this planet. Isn't it time that each one should look in his own eye and take off the stains that refrain himself to see clearly his own mistakes. If each one was inspecting, supervising his own behaviour instead of accusing the neighbours, the world would be a paradise. But pride and arrogance are so good, aren't they ?

... in the present international climate, when Israel itself is currently suspected of letting its undercover agents run amok...

be no sanctions supported ever by China,Russia and the Rest of the Non-Western World.And even in den Western World the majority dont want sanctions or war. All Legitimation efforts have been burnt on Iraqs WMD's.If Israel/USA think they have to act do so but dont complain later about the consequences.

It is Israel that is a runaway train slipping from world control. Bibi's administration is more dangerous than all the mullahs in the world combined. The last thing on Americans mind is a war with Iran. No one cares and only anti-Muslim bigots blame Iran because everyone knows Israel started the nuclear arms race in the Middle East. The more Bibi talks, the more the world sees the utter hypocrisy of the Israeli apartheid regime.

The Iran-runaway-train slipped away the day Bush declared war on Iraq. The agony is the short vision of the Israeli leaders not to advice Bush on his wrong move.

otherwise I'll have to fulfiull a central pledge in my campaign and declare war on Iran. Even funnier is that China and Israel has a wide range of mutual interests. I know that Netanyahu has to stop the the flight of dual nationals from Israel as he constantly beats the drumbeat of war to unify his cabinet. But the idea that Israel and China have mutual interests which they can work together on when it comes to Iran is hysterically funny. Anyone checked if Netanyahu is taking his tablets?

But not just The possibility of Iranian nukes but Israeli nukes as well. At least Iran allows inspections and till now there is no credible evidence indicating Iran is persueing the bomb. Israel on the other hand is known with certainty to possess several hundred nukes and refuses to join the treaty. Iran should drop out of the treaty leaving them free to develop nukes just like Israel. There would then be a balance of power in the ME.

That's the key. We all want peace and ssafety in the Middle East, but if Israel's not preparaed to carry out its obligations and withdraw from the West Bank, there is no reason why the World should impose sanctions on Iran. Israel and Iran are both defying the will of the international commuunity. There's no reason to tackle one and not the other.