Netanyahu: If Palestinians act unilaterally, so will Israel
PM tells Saban Forum there is no substitute for talks, appeals to Palestinians to negotiate at once.
By Haaretz Service Tags: Benjamin Netanyahu Israel news Middle East peacePrime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu warned on Sunday that Israel would respond to any unilateral Palestinian steps - particularly declarations of statehood - with one-sided steps of its own.
This was the prime minister's first response to a Palestinian initiative to ask the United Nations Security Council to endorse a Palestinian state, seen as an appeal for international backing.
In his address to the Saban Forum in Jerusalem, Netanyahu said that Israel wants negotiations toward a full peace accord. There is no substitute for negotiations, he said, and unilateral action would only unravel earlier agreements between Israel and the Palestinians.
"There is no substitute for negotiations between Israel and the Palestinian Authority and any unilateral path will only unravel the framework of agreements between us and will only bring unilateral steps from Israel's side," Netanyahu said.
The path to peace in the Middle East was at the negotiating table, said Netanyahu, adding that he was not interested in "negotiating for the sake of negotiations."
The prime minister emphasized that negotiations must begin at once, in good faith between the two sides. There was no point in wasting time, he said.
The negotiations would not be easy, he said, and would have to cover sensitive issues. Israeli leaders must be brave of heart to see this go forth, he said, but so too must the Palestinians.
The negotiations must cover the security situation, he added, citing three central challenges that must be addressed in order to achieve peace.
First of all, he said, Iran must not be allowed to develop nuclear weapons.
Second of all, Israel must find a way to fight the threat of rockets from militants in the Gaza Strip.
And third, he said, Israel's right to self-defense must be accepted.
If Israel and the Palestinians just began peace negotiations, said Netanyahu, "we can surprise the world."
The prime minister referred to the future of Iran's contentious nuclear program as a turning point in the 21th century, adding that extremism was on the rise in the Middle East.
Iran will try to foil peace between Israel and its neighbors, Netanyahu warned. The international community must thus understand the underlying dangers of a nuclear Iran.
The prime minister added that before peace could be achieved, the Palestinian rocket capability must be neutralized.
Netanyahu thanked President Barack Obama for his administration's continued support of Israel's security. Former U.S. president Bill Clinton told the same forum just before Netanyahu's speech that Israel must give Obama a chance, adding that Middle East peace could be solved during the American leader's term.
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What military might are you referring to Khan as the only might your lot has is demented suicide bombers,opium fuelled thugs,a few Jordanian camels,some goats and sheep,Hamas cowards ,and a sheepdog named Hasan ,who controls your thought processess
Nathalie has been in Jordan suppping with the King and Queen begging them to vacate the throne and let the Palestinians come back to their homeland ,didn,t you know Danish?
Hi Mark it,s only Nathalie who can,t distinguish fact from fiction ,watching to much Al-Manara tv Nasrallahs personal talkshow ,which doesn,t comment on Sunni/Shiite massacres every day rather hypocritical wouldn,t you say?
It,s called a Palestinian circus for obvious reasons ,but a circus needs an organiser not just clowns who trip over their own feet or spin on their heads ,and do other silly childish tricks otherwise it won,t last very long,sound familiar .
Christopher ,you cannot say these things here you might upset BBS,Labhras ,Nathalie ,and they will report you to minister of disinformation ,Saeb Erekat,Palestine,careful now.
This Labhras character is a laugh a minute except this time i ain,t laughing just shaking my head in bewilderment as to how he contradicts himself time after time, this double talk phenemenon was copied from Arafat ,Abbas ,Erekat ,Shaath ,Ashrawi and other clowns of Palestine who claim to be politicians,by Bibi ,par for the course as they say on the golf course
Another propagandist sprouting political claptrap aboutwhich he knows zilch ,so go back to May 1948 Welshman and read the documents from the League of Nations or maybe you cannot read or understand them?
It depends on where the setlements are ,anywhere in Greater Israel ,North ,South ,East or West ,all greater Israel ,building applicable no problem,don,t need Abbas approval .
we were missing your posts.We Danish wish you good luck!
holy cow, bibi! are you really serious? what agreements are left to unravel that israel hasn't already? and honestly, what unilateral actions would israel take that wouldn't destroy what little remains of the facade it presents to the world? what do you think is going to happen when the u.n. recognizes the proposed palestinian state and it's granted u.n. membership? are you ready for the sanctions that will surely be coming your way if you do anything above and beyond what you're doing now? no boycotts...just economic "sanctions" levied by the unsc should you move against the palestinians. bibi, are you naive enough to believe that the u.s. will oblige israel with its veto over THIS issue? you must get that notion out of your head if in fact you DO believe it. the often professed commitment to israel by the u.s. is towards its security; NOT its occupations and settlement enterprise, to which u.s. is opposed. it's unlikely that a u.s. vote on this issue would be favorable to israel, and in doing so, or even by just abstaining, the u.s. would not be breaking its commitment to israel's security.
The one state solution is now the one that Israel has chosen by default due to lack of any progress in peace talks. There won't be any rocket fire from Gaza because the people there will be free to live and work in a united secular state.
The Arabs have squandered any existing credibility remaining and if they attempt to unilaterally take disputed land this is as if they cede this land to Israel permanently.
That's not news. Israel has been acting unilaterally since its inception. About time Palestinians should do exactly that.
Israel doesn't Want Peace NOW because it has the upper hand militarily... My response is anything that goes up must come down. Time will come when the Military might comes down...and i look forward to it.
.. will be the best mistake that will expose the un-viability of the palestinians. it will give israel the right to behave unilaterally (as the article said) and any direct negotiations with the palestinians will be impossible. what will be left of the west bank i.e the 2nd palestinian state after gaza, can't be worth to be recognized as a state by the international body; not because of gaza only but because it will be un-viable to be a state. it might be, in time, a part of jordan & the problem solved. netanyahu is the right man for being the pm of israel these days ! g-d be with him !
Double speak and double think has pushed you over the edge just like Bibi,s mind must have, with his babbling rhettoric! PEACE EVER?
If Palestinians act like Israelis did in 1948, Bibi will do something nasty. I'm sure the Palestinians are contemplating just this possibility. That is one reason they are even now trying to line up their ducks. They have no more wish to be driven into the sea than Israelis did in 1948. They also know it is entirely against human nature for the monarch to give in, in negotiations George III didn't. Why would Bibi I? Neither did Pharaoh. All the eventualities have to be planned for, even a negative reaction from Israeli politicians and settlers. One reason for a two-year timeline.
that is all that matters in the end..
hah hah hah...HAH hah HAH hah hah hah,,, you're funny!
At least they will have a step toward establish the State of Palestine its long overdue and it only showed cowardice on the part of the PA to wait that long
in a parallel universe to Israel's. The country has done nothing but to act unilaterally for longer than I like to think I recall. What a joke this Netanyahu is!
Does anyone out there actually believe that Bibi is a credible "partner for peace"? Despite how he has tried to reinvent and cast himself on the international stage as a lover of lasting peace, this man is intellectually dishonest, morally bankrupt and simply not trustworthy. Although give him his due credit. On the other hand, remarkably he has honed his political skills in the dubious art of "double speak"...out of both sides of his mouth at the same time.
If the PA indeed goes for such an option it would be an act of utter foolishness. They will accomplish a state but in name only. Palestinian leadership is completely ignoring the downside. Up till now Israel has been carrying on with certain obligations that benefit the PA such as tax collections, stable currency, water distribution and other tangibles that, if negatively affected, would devastate the WB since the PA has no infrastructure of its own. If Palestine becomes a state Israel would not need to keep up with any more obligations that exist under the rules of occupation. Not that occupation is that great but this is going the wrong way. A negotiated formula would benefit both sides. A unilateral declaration will destroy all the goodwill between Israel and PA that has been built over the last few years. Beware of what you wish for.
is Netanyahu incapable of enumerating specific policy positions whether for peace or occupation/annexation? It appears the Palestinians don't have a partner for unilateral actions either ;)
Come on Bibi, try to be more serious...please!
br: "Israels unilateral responses" br: "Immediately take all parts of disputed territory that it wishes to keep." Then that is a war of aggression against a sovereign state, and is NO DIFFERENT to Iraq's 1991 attack on Kuwait. br: "Occupation of balance of land remains for security reasons." War of aggression against a sovereign state. Bibi simply can't point to any "security reason" why that has to be done, other than to screw Abbas and screw the Pals. br: " 'palestinians' remaining in new annexed territories are alien enemy population to be deported to their new homeland especially in the outbreak of war." If you annex that territory then those Arabs become "Arab Israelis", and "deporting" them becomes "ethnic cleansing". Are you really *that* full of hubris that you don't understand all this, bernard??? IF Abbas declares his state AND the UNSC recognizes it THEN Israel will immolate itself IF it follows your advice.
Israel has been taking unilateral steps for over fourty years. This has included exploitation of the West Bank for Israeli settlements. Now Israel is enflamed over Palestine asserting the very nationhood it was granted by the UN when Israel was created. What duplicity! If Israel were to demonstrate good faith, negotiations would be reasonable. Open Israeli highways to Palestinians. Stop building settlements. Allow Palestinian family reunification. Eliminate travel restrictions. Eliminate checkpoints in the West Bank. Build trust among Palestinians. Unfortunately Israel wants Palestine to have blind trust in Israel after a fourty year occupation. It wants controlled negotiations where it alone has the power. Then Israel can impose its will on the Palestinians. Just peace cannot come unless Palestine has a world power as a partner to counteract the power of Israel. Palestine is seeking that world partner, and the UN can be it.
Now they are talking like they are desperate.If Palestinians declare statehood, in which they should,Israel hands will be tied.Israel, is so good at doing the PR thing.In the past they have had several oportunities, and they would come up with every excuse to avoid peace. Whether you like it or not,Israel you will have to talk to Hamas sooner or later. Now everytime, you listen to their statements, they are blaming the Palestinians, everytime and claims to be ready. How could you be possibily ready for peace talks,when you ciontinue to expand settlements and steal more land.How stupid do you really think the Palestinians are. Abbass needs to declare statehood, while he finally has the world's attention.
Doesn't anyone notice that there are US Congressman and Senators that support the two-state solution? Obama has found a way to get the Jewish community on-board. The Palestinians have put the Israeli government in check and Netanyahu is trying to wiggle out of it, but it look like checkmate soon.
Please dont forget that israel is the only country in the world which created with the help of uk and declared as a state by the united nation on its declaration. so dont talk rubbish.
If the Palestinians declare their independence, so will Israel? Lol. What did Israel do in 1948? What has Israel done since if not act unilaterally with its usuall self-righteous arrogance of he who never is wrong or does wrong. Its about time for a Palestinian state and Palestinians don't need Zionist approval.
It's useless to take unilateral steps because as neighbours, the Israelis and the Palestinians must come to negotiating an agreement on all the core issues. These are outstanding issues we can't ignore because this would mean no end to the conflict. When Israel agreed in 1947 to the acceptance of two states, Israel and Palestine, all subsequent U.N. agreements made reference to territories captured for exchange later with the inhabitants of these territories, whether called then Jordanians or Palestinians, same thing at the time, for acceptance of the Jewish State. It's having taken unilateral steps all these years which have gotten us in greater trouble and unless this is what's the aim of both sides, not to end the territorial conflict, then it's the flawed option to take. This is where the U.S. should intervene with going back to the peace table.
... who in official Israel has ever given a damn about the-other-side...?!
is that nobody believes anything he says anymore, not even Likud.
Some of these posters should study history. All the disputed land belonged to Israel. outsiders are the interlopers. If all the outsiders who have been intruding and reecommending peace talks including Britain which whidh was an early eploiter and the United States which has been sending. If we are dealing with rights, then Israel owned the land in the beginning and then earned new title by conquest just as US took Texas, New Mexice and parts of California. Us has been sending envoys there for a half century to no avail. If we, Iran, Syria and other Arab states will get out of the way, Israel and the Palestinians can work it out either by acting singly or by agreement.
Why are the settlements there to begin with Katherine(it helps if you don't take issues out of context)? Remember prior to 1967? There were NO settlements, right? Did the Arabs act differently towards Israel then? as opposed to now? No they didn't. 1)They did not recognize Israels "right to exist" then and they do not recognize it now! 2) They stated they would actively seek to destroy Israel, precisely what the Hamas Charter states now(and Hamas was/is the Pals elected government). 3) They attacked Israel almost on a daily basis, just like the sniper, rocket and other terrorist attacks from Gaza occur now.
Dont look to Abbas or anyone else to step up to the plate. Palis love their victimhood, and will one last time miss the peace train because they think they can get better by being victims, and thus the world will pressure Israel. The Palis really havent compromised on anything now have they. Their roadmap obligations are almost ziltch. Do Abbas and Erekat expect that the UN will then specify that no Jews can live in the new Pl state? This is a core demand of the pals (while they also demand that Israel be flooded with pals). Would the UN, as corrupt as it is, actually guarantee a Jew-free state for them?
Bibi and his illegal settlements...
Israel was attacked when it was established, and the only reason there is no accord is because Israel was never recognized, and unfortunately Israel is too small to allow the Arabs to establish an enemy state at its borders. The Arab countries are the only one responsable for the faith of Arabs living in Gaza and Judea. When Israel moved out of Gaza several years ago, what happend? Rockets and terror. Now imagine a souverain country along Israel which doesn't recognize it. There is no easy solution, but by the way, see the status of affairs in other islamic countries - powerty, wars, redical Islam, pseudo religious fashistic antisemitic regimes. The whole West is affected, and whether we like it or not, the clash of civilizations, or better clash of civilization versus religious fashism is the destiny of the 22nd century. Greetings, Valdi
Michael, why should anyone have faith in Holocaust Denier Abbas. Is this who you pin your hopes on ? He and his Godfather Arafat, the biggest terrorist of our time, stole billions from the poor Palestinians you support. Oh, is that Bibi's fault, too ?? Michael, why should the Pals be free, because you say so ? Why weren't they free prior to 1967, when their Jordanian brothers controlled them ? Nobody cared about the poor Palestinians then, Michael. Where was your voice in '67 and before, we didn't hear a peep out of you and your Israel bashing cronies. Why, Michael, because you didn't give a hoot, hypocrite.
For the last 30 years Israel has been frustrated by the situation left by the Six Day War. Israel did not wage that war to take land. It ended up holding land when the war ended because where it stopped were pragmatic and natural defense lines. Revisionists took control of Israel when Begin took power. This led to the goal of not only occupying the West Bank and Gaza, but of populating it with eventual annexation as the ultimate goal. The Problem was that the Fourth Geneva Convention left Israel unable to simple force the Palestinians to leave. Rather because it is the Legal Occupying Authority Israel has made itself responsible for the well-being of the Palestinians. The Unilateral Declaration of Independence by Palestine would change all of that. Israel would be able to wage war without restraint against Palestine and the Settlements would be come the means of portraying it as a defensive rather than aggressive war. Mr. Netanyahu's not so veiled threat is clear and obvious.
NINE home demolition orders have been given out by the Israel forces to Palestinian residents near the Israeli settlement of Karmiel? (Ma'an News 15 November 2009) How can there be "Negotiations in good faith between the two sides" while ever Israel rolls around in its double standards! Surely it is time the Palestinians, "acted unilaterally," given the fact Israel's actions do not match its hasbara!
Israel sure has a funny way of expanding? Let's see after 1967 Israel has given back over 95% of the land it won in the War. Put simply Israel is half the size it was immediately after winning the Six Day War. So much for your "Israel is against changing the status quo in which they continue to expand outside Israels borders.". Remember Israel leaving Gaza 5 years ago (and turning over the West Bank to the PA) further shrinking the size of its borders. Do you know silly you sound? Israel also gets accused "ethnic cleansing"? Meanwhile the Arab population(Palestinians) has more than doubled since 1948? A funny way to eliminate your enemy? wouldn't you say Natalie? ND writes:"why would the Palestinians need Israeli permission to try to stabilize their lives?" Because they elected Hamas run government, and they are "on the record": 1) they do NOT recognize Israels "right to exist" and 2) actively seek to destroy Israel. Sounds like good reasons to me.
"4. Shut down all Israeli support for the new country`s infrastructure" Shut down what?
is mr netanyahu ready to accept a two state solution? then let him say so now and loud. tank you.
The International Court of Justice ruled that all States have an erga omnes legal interest to see to it that any impediment to the exercise by the Palestinian people of its right to self-determination is brought to an end. The Palestinian National Authority referred that and other matters to the International Criminal Court. If Israel takes unilateral action to impede a Palestinian State, it should prepare itself for a multilateral regime of sanctions.
"1. Finish the border wall" Super idea. That makes Israel an illegal occupator to each state which recognizes Palestine. Something like Iraq occupying Kuwait ...
...hopefully New York's finest is keeping an eye on you to make sure you don't get up to any mischief.
...things might have turned out better for you had you simply made peace instead of the usual right wing nuttery and bluster. So everybody finally got fed up. It was bound to happen, there were no shortage of warnings that this could happen.
That's a proper course, eliminate the real danger, and embrace the neighbor to get some peace and quiet in the street!
Everyone knows that the only other possibility is a 1-state with Jewish minority, and no foothold for US.
Its like Bibi has been doing things together with Pals or even the rest of the world. He wants to achieve peace through negotiations while his settlements are cutting the land....... He's really a funny guy!
Since Res 242 calls for a negotiated withdrawl, if the pals unilaterally declare a state, Israel can, just as Jordan did in the creation of Israel, annex whatever territory they can occupy. There will be a new armestice line and the negotiated agreement, even though belligerently obtained, will become the true border. This is clearly to Israel's advantage although har megiddon may be the battlefield
The PALs must be forced to renoounce any calls for unilaterial state declaration or any agreements shoudl be immediatly halted. Force the PALs cops to disarm. Force the PALs to shut down the new cell towers. Double the number of checkpoints. Hows that's that going to work for you PALs?
You don't know it, but your plan would give the Palestinians a lot more than Yahoo is prepared to offer them. He wants to keep the whole Jordan valley, making 'Palestine' an island surrounded by Israeli military forces. He also wants to keep the settlements, forcing 'Palestine' to maintain tens of thousands of armed thugs, disloyal to the new 'state', as well as annexing those on the Green Line. BTW, the wall effectively annexes a great deal of 'Palestine' because much of it is built on the east side of the Green Line, i.e. in the West Bank. Thanks, Chris!
Netanyahu to Plalistinians: Peace talks must begin immediately without preconditions (settlement freeze), but peace depends on Iran's nuclear program (somthing outside Palestine's control Can anyone smell the fear when Netanyahu talks now? A sure sign Palestine is now pursuing the right strategy.
So palestinian rocket capability must be neutrlised? what about Israeli WMD capability? Havent they done more damage than those tiny little qassam rockets that have killed how many in 10 years?
1. Finish the border wall 2. Withdraw all Israeli troops from the new "Palestine" 3. Make all Palestinian employment in Israel illegal arresting Israelis that violate the law 4. Shut down all Israeli support for the new country's infrastructure 5. Insure that any attacks on Israel fromt he new country is met with an immediate and overwhelming response.
w or w/o Netanyaho
The half-witted anti-Israelis got all excited about the Palestinians announcing that they will act unilaterally. Then, they'll whine (as they always do) when Israel does the same.
remember the time that israel unilaterally withdrew from gaza? and unilaterally decided to build a 'security fence'? sigh.
"There is no substitute for negotiations, he said, and unilateral action would only unravel earlier agreements between Israel and the Palestinians."Netandyahu Of coirse theer is no substitute for negotiations--as long as they never produce results other than Illeagl Settlement Expansion. As to unravelling past egreements---since when has Israel worried about that. Any agreements made by Olmert have already been unravelled by Israel,s PM/FM. You are too late Netanyahu---I believe Obama has promised Abbas his support as payment for staying on. Oh well---Israel never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
Indeed not. Forgive my sarcasm, but it is by far the best means to hinder a solution while expanding settlements and having the IDF (18-year olds) be the ultimate civil authority. How about instead binding arbitration by, say, a triumvirate of Russia, India, and Brazil?
Palestinians fed up with Israeli brick walling and are seeking Un support to declare an independent statehood and Netanyahu suddenly warns that he too will be equally and instantly reactive in making his own declarations of which one is a stipulation that peace will not occur with the Palestinians IF Iran develops nukes. Well, what aside from Irans behaviour, does Netanyahu have to think upon for there to peace in the region without attaching conditions on other countries for other countries actions?
Isn't expansion of settlements an unilateral act?
How can atomic weapens in Iran be a precondition for peace in Gaza? This must be a mistake,
Not funny on the civilians on both sides...
Having been robbed, cheated, and mistreated by the Israelis for decades, why would the Palestinians need Israeli permission to try to stabilize their lives? Israel is against changing the status quo in which they continue to expand outside Israels borders. Israel sees those days approaching their end, but they will fight claiming every possible durnam until the end.
How can Israel criticize the Palestinians for "unilateral steps"??? The illegal settlements that Israel has constructing for years are the biggest "unilateral steps" of all. Netanyahu is a joke.
There's the problem: that's already the case. Israel always has -- and always will -- do anything America will tolerate. There are no notes she doesn't already hit.
"The prime minister emphasized that negotiations must begin at once, in good faith between the two sides." Why should anyone have faith in Bibi when it comes to freeing the Palestinians? He has no intention of setting them free and even if he wanted to, his cabinet wouldn't let him. "If Israel and the Palestinians just began peace negotiations, said Netanyahu, "we can surprise the world." Bibi, the world's had enough of Israel's surprises after Lebanon 2 and Cast Lead. You lost your chance Bibi. There's nothing to negotiate. Get out of the West Bank now and free the Palestinians.
Bomb and blockade Gaza and occupy and settle the West Bank? Wait Israel is already doing that.
The Palestinians should not make "acting along" a threat, it should be a reality and not a ploy to extert pressure on Israel, they must first garner international support for the idea among their friends and the Europeans who are sympathetic to them. Israel had been "acting alone" by building settlements, confiscating land and strangling the Palestinian economy for over 40 years.
And the difference will be? Israel is acting unilaterally all the time.
Immediately take all parts of disputed territory that it wishes to keep. Occupation of balance of land remains for security reasons. Remaining west bank land no link to gaza would probably end up back with jordan. gaza and west bank become east and west pakistan; oops no east pakistan today. "palestinians"" remaining in new annexed territories are alien enemy population to be deported to their new homeland especially in the outbreak of war. There is a place to send them. All military security restrictions continue to be applied.