Neither Israel nor Hamas wants another Gaza war
Despite efforts of various hard-line groups in Gaza, chances that tempers will escalate do not look high.
By Avi Issacharoff and Amos Harel Tags: Hamas Gaza rockets Israel news IDFThe tiny Islamist faction Ansar al-Sunna took responsibility for the Qassam rocket attack that took the life of a Thai farm worker yesterday in Netiv Ha'asara.
Like Hamas, Israel has no interest in an escalation along the Gaza border. Despite the efforts of various hard-line groups, the chances that the tempers will escalate do not look high.
A year and two months have passed since the guns fell silent in Gaza, and Israeli intelligence bodies unanimously believe deterrence is working.
Hamas is still working to rehabilitate its military wing and tighten its hold on the Strip. The movement is not directly responsible for a single rocket attack since the war's end, but in most cases has thwarted attempts from smaller, competing factions to attack Israel.
Still, in the power struggle between Hamas and those minor groups there are varying degrees of freedom. Hamas has generally been more tolerant of strikes against Israel Defense Forces soldiers along the Gaza security fence.
In recent days, it seems to have somewhat loosened the reins over its smaller rivals. One possible explanation is the failure of Hamas' to ignite the West Bank earlier this week by declaring a "day of rage" to protest Israeli building in East Jerusalem.
Without tangible achievements on that end, extremist groups may have chosen to exact a price on the southern front, taking advantage of what appears to have been Hamas' tacit assent. Ansar al-Sunna is a nebulous group but apparently linked to Jund Ansar Allah, a militant Gaza-based organization linked to Al-Qaida.
In responding to the attack, Israel must send the message that Qassam strikes are unacceptable, while at the same time making sure that it does not get drawn into another round of conflict.
Israel's spokespeople may not admit it, but the identity of yesterday's victim makes it easier to decide how to react. Had he been an Israeli, a resident of Sderot or one of the nearby kibbutzim, Israel's leadership would be expected to wage a far more forceful response.
An additional problem is where exactly to strike. Israel can pummel Hamas to drive home that it alone is responsible for the goings-on in the Strip.
Israel's response will likely remain limited, given the present circumstances in the region. The Netanyahu government already has a number of other headaches to deal with. It's not only the crisis with the United States over Jerusalem - it is also Israel's wish to avoid a wider confrontation with the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank and Jerusalem while keeping an eye on tensions in the north.
IDF leaders, who after the Gaza offensive created a reasonable security situation for residents of the western Negev, have no interest in another war in the south, and certainly not in another Goldstone report.
Posted by Amos Harel and Avi Issacharoff on March 19, 2010
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If your "facts" are correct? What do you think the tunnel from Gaza to Israel was for,any precedents on tunnels to Israel used by Hamas to say set off explosions in Israel etc ?? Do you think it was for peaceful puroses? You seem to avoid a complete story like the plague.
no more than those kids wanted their trials in Beslan. *** Kazhdoi pigalitse po tribune, dvum narodam cheres tyshu let ne perezhit'. Translation: give every talking doll a tribune, two nations will not know how to make do for millenia.
idiot, we did in Gaza. They hid in civilian homes... and fronted kids when they selve were firing rockets from places like UN school... just watch the video, it's all on U-Tube. Propaganda is one thing, fighting IDF is totally, totally, totally, totally different.
the cocket is not "here". When you start appreciate where the rockets are... we have something to discuss. Until then it's much ado about nothing.
God smiles on those who treat Jews with fairness and justice. Those who persecute Jews or seek their destruction are cursed and eventually doomed. No exceptions.
Supremacy? No, your confusing us with the Catholic Priests who can abuse youngsters with the knowledge that they will be supported by the Church and forgiven by G-d. Does that sound accurate? Well I think it's just as big a generalisation as the crap you've written. Besides, read today's news and you'll see the response from Israel is the same as always. you bomb us , we'll bomb you.
God smiles on those who treat Jews with fairness and justice. Those who persecute Jews or seek their destruction are cursed and eventually doomed. No exceptions.
It does not matter what Hamas wants. It is the Supreme Mullah of Iran who pulls the strings and he has ordered war. He will fight to the last Arab! The only thing that will stop him is the coming together of the democratic uprising by the Iranian people with the military strength of the Israel Defence Forces.
Collective punishment on defenseless Palestinians for electing Hamas. Collective punishment for al Quieda or Hamas resistance firing katusha rockets. Either way the hapless Palestinians will bear the brunt of Israel retaliatory actions in their trail by missiles launched from the safety of helicopter gunships. Israel broke the peace agreement with Hamas PM Erdogan and Israel continue its illegal activities banned by the Int. Community.
Hebrew/Jewish roots are the deepest of any other roots in Jerusalem
Racial supremacy in plain sight, my god listen to yourselves. "Had he been Israeli...the response would have been greater" What ? If the poor victim had been Israeli no doubt the author would have mentioned his name in the article, but he was just a "Thai"-No doubt working for slave wages in your wonderful. Jewish democracy. Listen folks, your no better than me, the poor man that was killed or anyone else for that matter. The sooner you get this into your thick skulls, the sooner we might inch towards peace and a just and equitable settlement for the Palestinian people on their own land.
The prospect of non-war scares some people on both sides. It might interfere with their power or economics. And it is starting to look like some rapprochement might be possible. Can't have that. A rocket here, a retaliatory bombing there. Gotta keep the tensions high. Besides, both sides have plenty of civilians to shoot at.
arabs don,t want war...that,s for sure , they think they can,t defeat israel now , and they would loose and pay heavily if they challenge idf .but what about other non-arab players who want to take over the rich middle east in order to control the globe through much needed energy resources .those new players are dangerous : they have wealth and military power . they are providing military hardware to radical and zealot movements to create instability in the region and provoke israel to respond .this will enlarge war and extends it for long time to bleed arabs and israelis .the plan is being excuted now , and coming weeks will be crucial to area .
Firing of rockets is a sign that the Palestinians "clearly don't", but declaring the Cave of the Patriarchs and re-dedicating a synagogue smashed by the Jordanians in 48', is. Mark's ongoing anti right-wing crusade seems to stop at the Palestinians doorstep. That there is no Palestinian "progressives" doesn't seem to matter to him. It's all another "right-wing Jewish plot".
Only when Hamas is destroyed will peace have a chance.
why it doesn't stop ! STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP JUST S.T.O.P FOREVER.
"History shows that you can never destroy the innocent and take over their land. " - Palestinian Refugee As you are from Tampa, I suggest you look up the Tocobaga Indians. Or, consider the fate of the Amalekites. "Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys." - I Samuel 15:3 Israel hasn't yet decided it will have to invoke a final solution to it's Arab problem. It is hoping the Arabs between the Jordan and the Sea will just disappear. IF Israel ever decides to be rid of the Palestinians that goal could be easily achieved. I doubt If Israel would be that ruthless, but then we have Lieberman as an example they could be.
also, your comment about the innocent and the truth will prevail. why do you think israel has won all those wars. you have answered your own question, so to speak, only you have it backwards.
"That`s because Hamas are indestructible. Aren`t they?" - H No, because you can't destroy what you don't engage. The tactics employed by Israel during Cast Lead were clearly intended to minimize casualties even if it meant little real harm was done to Hamas. To take down the militants would have meant pushing them faster than they could withdraw and taking the casualties to accomplish that goal.
muslims should give up claims to jerusalem. it is jewish. all of it. you could have had your legal country only your leaders rejected an offer of 98% of what they asked for. your arab/muslim brothers allow you to live poorly for the sake of hating jews. your arab/muslim neighboring countries attacked israel numerous times and lost. tell them to stop the hate. it is not us. it is them.
"Ansar al-Sunna? In the Gaza?" - Damian Lataan No reason to assume that this mystery group is the same as the insurgent outfit in Iraq. ". . . there is only one way this so-called `Ansar al-Sunna` mob could have got hold of a Qassam rocket - and that`s from the Israelis!" - Danmien Get real. The Ansar al-Sunna claim might be false, but the Fatah claim is credible and they would have a sound reason to goad Israel at the expense of Hamas right now. Or, perhaps, Islamic Jihad is out to embarrass both while avoiding blame. "Israel is itching to find a way to get a war going that will bring on the Final Confrontation with Iran, Hamas and Hezbollah." - Damien Not all at once. One at a time. Heck, Netanyau can't even decide which to do first.
"The only reason why rockets stopped is because Israel punished the civilians with shockingly excessive use of force. In both attacks, 2500 civilains were killed, " - Ahmet Turko You overlook the fact that in November 2008 Israel had to break the cease fire with Hamas in order to get the war it had previously planned for December 2008. Your number of civilians killed is way high. "Israel doesnt take the war to the actual militants." - Ahmet Undeniable and for a sound reason. In a war to ensure a Kadima victory in the upcoming elections high IDF casualties would have been a bad idea. Also, Israel has become enamored of the idea of war on the cheap. When dealing with the likes of Hamas and Hisbollah that is playing EXACTLY the game that favors the terrorists.
YOU. Don't be shy, you did a great job... No one said anything of the kind, so I can't blame you for having to fabricate something. It's a credit to your writing skills..
Do you guys truly believe what you write? I know that blogs like this provide perfect anonymity for those who post but don't you have pride enough to deal truthfully with what is a very difficult situation? Moreover, you're not doing your cause much good when what you write has no logical relationship to the truth.
Well I think bringing the fight to civilians is rather inadvertent seeing as how both Hizbolla and Hamas hide underneath the skirts of old women and children.
a. You take out infrastructure as to not allow free movement of military hardware. b. You do not hide your troops in schools and hospitals- unless you want them to be martyred for the cause.
History shows that you can never destroy the innocent and take over their land. Forces of good always win at the end. Why? Because the whole world is siding with them. Therefore the roots and the spirit is kept alive. Yes! You can destroy the tree, pull the roots and burn the leafs but watch out for the smaller roots that you overlooked. Those roots are protected by GOD.
When Ahmadinejad and the Mad Mullahs eventually lease their pet poodles - Hezbollah and Hamas - on Israel, you will see the complete destruction of Lebanon and Gaza (and Syria if Assad is dumb enough to jump on the bandwagon). There is zero chance that Islamic terrorists will be permitted to rain rockets on Israel's heartland without a major response. One would think that the Lebanese - who used to be some of the smartest people in the Middle East - can recognize the potential danger that the twin cancers of Iran and Hezbollah have brought to their once-wonderful country.
where 'wine women and song' are only available on the net.
wont stop 'cast lead' to please Obama. Diplomacy isn't an Obama specialty. He 'bows' real pretty though, before Japan's "Emperor" and the Saudi 'King.' And Obama will have no one to blame but himself for gross arrogance. "Pride goeth before destruction." Should be the new Obama bumper sticker.
nice gestures of 'peace.'. Typical.
You missed the blood of Palestinian used by all Jews Worldwide for Matzah.
That's because Hamas are indestructible. Aren't they?
you're right as much as right can be right. we use excessive force in gaza strip, we want only war, we are using civilians as human guards, and we're raping innocent palestinian mothers. we also don't listen to anybody, we have big teeth and tails, we eat our own children, we have knives and guns under our pillows - and when the time is right - we go and hunt palestinian children. didn't i missed anything?
I very much doubt it. This is the first time their name has cropped up in the Gaza. Hamas would not tolerate them in the Gaza and there is only one way this so-called 'Ansar al-Sunna' mob could have got hold of a Qassam rocket - and that's from the Israelis! Think about it. You say niether Hamas nor Israel want another war. Wrong. Israel is itching to find a way to get a war going that will bring on the Final Confrontation with Iran, Hamas and Hezbollah.
But Israel is chomping at the bit. Netanyahu doesn't care, and cannot decide, where the war will be. Gaza, Lebanon, Iran? The West Bank? Israel - or at least all those Israelis who have any say in the matter have been trying to sell the idea of another war to the people of Israel. They have also been doing everything possible to provoke a war. People who don't want a war do not spend all their time trying to start one. The Israeli Right wants another war and they control the nation.
Most people think that Israel deterred Hamas and Hizbullah. But I still see Hamas and Hizbullah militants with apparently even better rockets. Israel should not kid itself. The only reason why rockets stopped is because Israel punished the civilians with shockingly excessive use of force. In both attacks, 2500 civilains were killed, thousands more wounded and infrasstructure such as bridges, sewerage treatments,oil refineries, schools and hospitals destroyed or hit and damaged. Thats how Israel ended (not necessarily won) the war.Israel doesnt take the war to the actual militants. Thats why they are still there and noone wins the conflict.It just stops Hamas and Hizbullah temporarily because they know Israel will keep hitting civilians til there is a ceasefire.