Shas spiritual leader: Abbas and Palestinians should perish
Army Radio reports Rabbi Ovadia Yosef denounces Palestinians as bitter enemies of Israel ahead of upcoming direct peace talks.
By Haaretz Service Tags: Israel news Middle East peace Shas Mahmoud AbbasShas spiritual leader Rabbi Ovadia Yosef denounced upcoming peace talks with the Palestinians, which are set to start September 2 in Washington, and called for Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas to "perish from this world," Army Radio reported overnight Saturday.
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Shas spiritual leader Ovadia Yosef |
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"Abu Mazen and all these evil people should perish from this world," Rabbi Ovadia was quoted as saying during his weekly sermon at a synagogue near his Jerusalem home. "God should strike them with a plague, them and these Palestinians."
The Shas spiritual leader also called the Palestinians "evil, bitter enemies of Israel" during his speech, which is not the rabbi's first sermon to spark controversy.
In 2001, the spiritual leader of the ultra-Orthodox faction gave a speech in which he also called for Arabs' annihilation.
"It is forbidden to be merciful to them," he was quoted as saying. "You must send missiles to them and annihilate them. They are evil and damnable."
The Palestinian Authority had condemned the speech as racist and inciteful.
Meanwhile, Interior Minister Eli Yishai, also from Shas, earlier this week also remarked on the forthcoming peace talks with the Palestinians, saying that Shas would oppose extending the West Bank settlement building freeze due to expire in late September.
Yishai has suggested that Israel would continue construction in the main settlement blocs likely to remain part of Israel in the framework of a peace deal, but freeze construction in outposts or more remote settlements.
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In sensitive at best, racist at worst. The rabbi is filled with blind hate. I would expect a true leader of a people to express hope that the peace negotiations are a success.
I think the Rabbi and Ahmedinejad should get together and talke about how religion can help achieve genocide.
His comments are only reported locally, but if the Pals respond their response will be publicized far and wide, and the Palestinians will be blamed for sabotaging talks.
SOMEONE SHOULD TELL ME THESE RHETORIC IS NOT COMING FROM A SPIRITUAL LEADER
Why are we listening to this psychotic Mullah?
Any Rabbi who preaches hatred and murder should have his ordination revoked. He doesn't deserve the title of Rabbi or Admor, if he joins ranks with the Ayatollas and other hate mongers. It's just shameful for am yisrael!!!!
How can you revoke his smicha and if that was done it wouldnt change anything. He is not some reform pulpit rabbi who is flattering his congregation and who got ordination so he could get PULPIT AND MAKE A FEW BUCKS He is a real scholar. Thats precisely why this paper quotes him and and not some of the loosers from the reform movement who have a bogus semicha
from my understanding from the article Rav Ovadia is calling for g-d to wipe out evil. If Ereket and Abbas feel that it is a threat against them, i guess they think of them selves as evil. and if that is true they should worry about G-d's revenge.
Why can't you shut your mouth and face reality ,all you learning serves only to divide the Jewish people whose bread you eat .There are many honorables Rabbis in the world , I am still polite by referring to you as Mister.
Jews live safely in Iran and even have an MP: zionists say if Jews returned to Arab countries they would be killed. Rubbish. There is a Jewish MP in your current bete noire, Iran. There is also a synagogue being rebuilt in Beirut
Nationalism and its racial/ethnic claims are dangerous: When will the world understand, that searching for / politicizing / creating biological links, identities, relationships, and therefore hierarchies (yes, Zionism for instance, but also other ideologies in the past), is shameful? Nationalism and its racial/ethnic claims are dangerous and utterly nonsensical. Widen your horizon instead of reproducing malicious patterns of the past!
Spiritual Chief of Shas Party has invoked God to kill Abu Mazen and "them" and "these" Palestinians. Not so clear the use of those pronouns, but obscurity perhaps wouldl help his spokesman to deny criticism ant to declare as always, that the Rab's words were not understood or they were put out of context. His fury and his hate contradict what is supposed to be the attitude of a Spiritual Chief. May God order him to refrain from his wild invectives
RELIGOUS EXTREMISM isn´t ONLY A MUSLIM or CHRISTIAN PROBLEM but yes it is A JEWISH TRUE PROBLEM. at the end of the day ISRAEL has its own EXTREMISTS too.
Rabbi Yosef has become a liability to the Sephardim and to Israel in general. Can't someone ask him to retire gracefully and accept that he is too old to be giving sermons and making political statements ? The man has gone senile.
SHAME on Rabbi Yosef!
1. So many of the Imams, Ayatollahs and Mulas may preach death to jews, and R. Ovadiah may not counter? 2.We don't listen to the Mulas and Imams. The Palestinians won't listen to R. Ovadiah. Now let's go on with life!
Isnt there any laws in the state of Israel to arrest such inciteful and hate mongerring sermon givers? In any civilised country, this so called religious leader would be arrested for racist remarks and encouraging violence. How can Israel call itself a progressive democratic nation and allow such hateful comments to go without puniushment? I am no Israel lover but this type of sermon is exactly what every anti-israel commentator would love to expose.
I never heard a Muslim Imam says Death to the Jewish people. They say death to Zionists but never to Jews. That because they believe the war is not due to faith conflict but instead due to land conflict. Shame on this Rabbi, he should be preaching peace instead of hate.
Muslims regularly chant death to the jewish people. Imamas say it a lot in saudi arabia. the Supreme Leader of Iran who happens to be an Imam says it other than the sufi's what imam hasn't said death to the jewish people
I will not put my name because I am furious at your attitude.
I wonder how many Israelis and Jews will die because of the big mouth of this imbecile.
or the German
Here is the Truth, No believer is sane. The deeper the belief the farther from the Truth one is. Belief systems evolved to compensate for lack of understanding the system (The Creation process). When you understand the Creation process, you’ll no longer believe. Believes are ambiguous, dubious, and never certain. (all the reasons for dispute…) No believer can precisely describe word for word: What is Allah, God, and Elohim. Only Timeism as the “Theory Of Everything” can bring all the believed deities into the realms of understanding Time as the theory of everything!!! La Ilaha Illa-Zaman !! Time is the only God !!
Rabbi Ovadia Yosef meet Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
This old idiot is worse than Helen Tomas - he is a potential criminal, he is inciting to kill people! And there are enough other idiots listening to him!Shas spiritual leader, they say!?! It's true! He leads to what? To kill, to destroy? Is this Jewish religion? Worse than Ahmadinejad! It must be some law punishing him for this incitement! He's not destroying the Palestinians, he is destroying us, all!!
He is a terrible person that should be removed from any office and should be repudiated by any decent human being. I never knew that the Tea Party has reached the Holy Land. And he is a Rabbi? OY VEI!
They are our enemies but public comments like this are a Chilul HaShem! Shame on you!!
It is shameful for such thoughts to come from a people who went through a holocaust. With leaders like that, how can we hope for PEACE? A very sad day for us.
This sad old man typifies the immorality of religion.
I believe there is a special department in the Israeli government that monitors Palestinian's incitement against Israelis. If Israel is serious about seeking peace, then maybe, just maybe the time is ripe for it to extend it jurisdiction. As for Rabbi Ovadia since he is so passionate about his love for Israel, maybe it is time that his followers stop being leaches on the society and cut down on the subsidies they receive and start serving in the army to protect the country for which he declares his utmost love.
If you could only meet Ahmadinajad? Ahmadinajad is so loving, passionate and careing and he really does not mean what he says about the jews. It is just the Ayattolas and the voters who are pushing him. Get a life!!
Shas spiritual leader has declared that Palestinians and their leader Abbas should be annihilated, probably by missiles and subsequent genocide. As a European jew I wonder whether such declarations will be rejected by our ortodox rabbinates which for now seem to be inclined to depend more and more from the ortodox environments of Israel. It should be clear that these declarations are destructive of ortodox Judaism in the world, if not vigorously fought in public media and debate. Where are the fundamental principles of inspiration of Judaism ? May ortodox jewish people absorb such absurd position as licit, to be considered only in line with the worse expression of extremist Imam and mullah ?
it is very intrinsting, this man call for the Palestinians to be wiped off the planet in the same way that we did call against the foreign elements, namely the jews, in our native lands. This man apparently is very influencial and a lot of his hate and animosity will have an impact on many Israeli soldiers and their families. I hope that a better solution is found than the one we found against the onslaught of Jews in Europe, ironically too, the jew of the 1920s1930s was reproducing quite rapidly an taking over cities like Vilnus or Berlin, now they are relatively non-existant within our communities, all because of men like this rabbi which also said that no mercy should be given to the Pals, as we Germans believed against our scourge. But let us not negate the fact that the Jews have learned well from us, and can anyone deny that if such people existed in a time that the Jew say was in a similar position that the Palestinian is that these rabbi would not declare that terrorist acts were an obligation from god, based on the Torah, the Jewish book of mythology.
You have lost your mind, Ovadia. Time to go.
The worst and the bitter enemies of Israel are those idle, lazy and parasites rabbis. They poison the lives of citizens taking advantage of the stupidity and credulity of their people. They are the source of discord and war between men and the deepest source of antisemitism. It is time to reduce their power in nothing. THEY should perish..
Especially by Yishai Cohen who follows this man as his rabbi. Why is it that the Israeli government has not come out to denounce what this man has said?
Bunch of lunatic racists
Is he a clown or a make-believe ayatola?
Takes one to know one. While he acts with words they act with bombs on school buses.
It reminds of a verse from a Fairport Convention song: "Well one man he drinks up his whisky and another he drinks up his wine and they"ll drink till their eyes are filled with hate "cos those are the different kinds".
Ovadia and his cronies - young and old - are more of a threat to the Israeli nation than Abbas and most Palestinians. If this guy had his way we would be living in a country like Iran ruled by religious demagogues like him. Maspik kvar!
This Rabbi says what most israelis want.. If Obama ever wonders what Bibis agenda is, he have to listen to this Rabbi Ovadia
Who is the Owner of the earth? USA,JEWS,RUSSIANS,CHINESE,ENGLAND? How many Owners do we have?
Of course its vile to talk like that.....but maybe some palestinians will get a feel for how offended we israeiis are by comments that we have no right to exist etc etc Damn all these vile talking people on both sides
Oh yes, that would be wonderful if Abbas and the Palestinians perished We would be on our way to a wonderful world.
the your wonderful world is as big as your mind. Indeed very narrow and very small one.
It is forbidden to bear false witness and we are called to welcome others into our homes and communities. These 'settlers' are the interlopers... it is despicable that they could have the 'law' on their side.
should perish from this world.
REflection of the true face of zionism
Sorry , what is the new with this
rubish!!!!
that communication wouldn't need operator assistance because it's not long distance ALLAH AND HaSHEM ARE ONE AND THE SAME
He is just spoken what every Israeli conceals in his heart.
What do you do when you are immersed from childhood in pre-medieval law which distinguishes between killing a Jew and killing a Gentile? While killing anybody is forbidden by Halakha, the murderer is punished by execution if he killed a Jew, but is only "punished by Heaven" if he killed a Noahide (e.g., a Muslim). Today you have rabbinic opinions that allow killing of Arabs, even innocents, that endanger Jewish control of the Land. They simply compare the importance of the various commandments and come to such conclusions. Rabin's assassination was also sanctioned by some according to Jewish law of "mosser". The settlers see no problem in burning down Arab crops, or uprooting their olive trees, just to get back at the IDF, and not for any wrong the Arabs committed. The Halakha was not updated much, certainly did not have a chance to evolve naturally under conditions of Jewish control over Gentiles. Since changes in it are extremely slow, it is best to override it wholesale, as was done in laws concerning financial issues, according to the ruling of "Dina d'malchuta dina", "the law of the land is valid." But I wonder how long it will take to also change the moral/ethical influence that goes with the outdated Halakha.
My little daughter saw the photo of Rav Ovadia and asked - Daddy, who is he, Dati (a religious Jew) or a pirate. - Both, was my answer, and also a clown
All 'religious' figures who wear heavy tight turbans experience decreased blood flow to their brains.
In Saudi Arabia, Iran Pakistan, Afgahnistan and many other muslim countries u can't even be a jew or u get imprisoned u can't carry a bible into saudi arabia, women get whipped for being raped and what about honor killings Apartheid!
The bit where the Rabbi was quoting from the Rosh Hashana liturgy "that all our enemies be vanquished and destroyed" or the bit where he also said that "he believes in peace and that giving up land to save life is permissable."
Never heard the saying sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me? He is right in the sense the palestinians are our enemies. HIs speech though is not going to affect the political process .. of talks go anywhere thats because we were able to agree on issues if they don't it won't be because of Rabbi Ovadias comments. The fact he is allowed to make these non diplomatic speeches is a credit to Israel. Condemning him for speaking his mind is condemning freedom of speech a luxury the arab states don't give. Its a harmless speech so ignore it.
There are entire organizations of Jews, such as the ADL, whose job is to comb the media for any statement or action which they can label as "anti-semitic. It seems that Jews consider themselves immune from the same sort of pressure they exert on others.
Let's apply your logic to the Iranian situation. Iranian leader also said that eventually Israel will be wiped from the humankind memory. You , Zionists, demand bombing his country for his crazy rhetorics, but happily forgive Rabby .
Let them perish , strike them with a plague , send missiles , annihilation and perishment etc. Quoted by a spiritual leader , and you call that harmless speach. There is something going very wrong in Israel !
Extremist like Rav Yousef, Ahmadenijad & Khaled Mesahl are the real enemies. If we all can understand that then peace will come.
This evil people will never stop attack the state of israel until Israel disappeared from world map.
while Mubarak was in a hospital in Germany Rabbi Obadiah sent him a letter http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3918809,00.html the rabbi has always been a man that strives after peace but if the rabbi feels that the Jewish people are being threatens you can expect him to speak up. to know him is to read some of his books on Jewish law he generally takes the more lenient approach to the interpretation o f the law unlike many of his constituents that take a more strict approach. By taking the lenient approach many people would have been lost to the reform movement or even worse they would have converted
Thank you for clearing that up Joe. It is reassuring to know that he is only pandering to his followers and doesn't really mean what he said. A pragmatiic politician is acceptable. Another racist Kahane is not.
And Netanyahu is serious about "peace," right?
This is the way christian nazi leaders spoke about Jews in Europe. But with the old testament (thora) Jews and christians have the same background and civilisation. That has been the problem for the last 20 centuries.
Did he really say, "Abu Mazen & all these evil people should perish from this world"............. "God should strike them with a plague,them & these Palestinians"? Wow !
I believe a big part of the problem is that Knesset representation only requires 2% of the vote. No wonder there are about 12 parties in the Knesset today and coalitions are beholding to the extremes. Raise that minimum to say 10% and you will have consolidation of parties and more rationale government
99 pct of all conflicts in the world are caused by religion , ethnic a palestinian and a jew are close, coming from the same soil, a palestinian can change his haircut, take fancy sunglasses and chewing gum and nobody in de disco in Haifa will recognize him as a non-jew.
they have not left a moment to rest.. from the 3 no-s of the arab league to the rejection of arafat to the terrorist murders all over the world. the arabs have not let us live for one second with peace. they constantly threaten our existience and now everyone blames it on the israels treatment of the Pals... the Pals are every arab countries excuse to promote our genocide without having to answer for their ideas... and the minute a jew fights back hes an agressor... the Pals are in this situation just as much for Arab agression toward israel as any Israeli aggression toward the Arabs.... The arabs are our enemies and have proven it over and over again. human history shows you mans behavor and if you think your humanist philosophy can change reality your mistaken... these enemies of ours are not joking but apparently made a great joke out of all your idiots who beieve them.
I would like hear your comment about this fascist..
He will be Israel's Supreme Khomeni as soon as the Haredis take over the country. That is not far away because the Haredis know how to produce children in great quantities while the secular Israelis don't have enough strength (keuches) because they need to work while the Haredis only need to pray.
I am sure the similarities with Ahmedinajad and other high ranking Iranian officials and spiritual leaders are not missed by anyone with some IQ. Hopefully people like him are not governing us. But wait wait they already have some representation in the government. I hope this government we do not deserve goes away as she never existed!
It's about time someone tells it like it is. And it's about time someone stands up for our rights here in Israel.
Indeed Islam appears to be increasingly the religion of peace and contracry to the media campaigns that have proposed it as otherswise
These Shas thugs do more harm to us Jewish people than all arabs combined! They corrupt our mind, they dwell in hatred, they sow the seeds of more bloodshed, and all for what? So that we feel better when we light the shabbes candles? I for one do not. I want to live in peace. If I can live in the Galuth with 99 % non-Jews, why then not in Israel with 30 or 40% non-Jews?
Just how stupid can we be we have in key positions people reresenting those who follow blindly the teaching and guidance of this senile rabbi. All this is due to our stupid system who accepts religious interventions at all the levels of the state,, from birth to death and all that is between. We can and should accept parties on ideological base but we should not accept it on religious base as it goes very deep and might drive us to simple destruction.
I think that such persons like this man exactly are the ones that should perish from this world, he dont believe either in piece or co existance, how can he he call himself a spiritual leader while he incitates for hate and agressive actions against a whole population.
Suppose, Ovadia Yosef was a political leader, tv /radio personality, newspaper reporter an Iman or any moslem person, whom spill this type of vile everyday in the Islamic world. Would it be fit to print? Would it be news? And where are the faces in the Islamic world condeming any moslem for speaking such vulgarities towards any non moslem? Even here you will find posters denounce and condem Rab Ovadia Yosef's rhetoric. If he was moslem this would not be a story. The Rabbi may have a point but his delivery is no better than those whom spew the same garbage to non moslems in the name of allah! As for peace, if and when it comes, it will be a fake peace.... There is to much Hate......
who is this animal, and u call Hamas is terrorist? who is terrorist now?
The Jews always blame Arabs of making antisemetic statements and here is the Jewish spiritual leader doing exactly the same things... The only statement I can use to describe him is "self hating semetic"... His comments, and hence intentions, are much worse than what Hitler is claimed to have done ... May Ovadia burn in Hell...
Israelis like, let's say, tha people who make Haaretz? The language, maybe. But actions?
How many millions does he represent??? Now we know how they feel!!! SHAME ON YOU ALL by the way how did the prayers go today???
if god,or any other entity or concept,caused the palestinians to vanish,there would inevitably,be no israeli-palestinian conflict..if the"jewish homeland in palestine"was indeed erected in "a land without people" the proviso about the locals would be redundant and,again no problem. but-can we trust god on this?or-what does the good rabbi think of the possibility that palestinians won't dissappear in an abrupt manner?that they will be around for the foreseeable centuries?
Did I understand this correctly? This incredibly pious man who believes in an omnipotent and omnipresent god is trying to dictate what this all powerful and all knowing being should do? He thinks he knows better than the Lord? Is this not an obvious case of the deadly sin Pride?
If all our enemies would perish by thought alone, who would be left on this planet?
He looks rather like the rabbi in charge of stoning in Monty Python's Life of Brian. A bit older than the John Clees character obviously, but similar kind of mindset.
, Abdullah Youssef , alias Rabbi Ovadia Yosef is a shame for all Jews when he asks for the annihilation of all Arabs, though he was one of them. His first name Abdullah says it all. His calls for extinguishing the Arabs, including Abbas, Israels servant, is the zenith of brutality, that for sure is far from the modern Jewish thinking. I can only get ashamed as a Jew for this barbarism.
Rabbi Ovadia should be excommunicated. He should not be allowed to preach poison like that to his congregation. The congregation ought to find a truely spiritual leader, not a crazy old man - who, possibly, have already forgotten it was Sabbath yesterday.
Kudos to Rabbi Ovadia Yosef to state clearly his mind which causes us to look more carefully at the present reality which is not so far from Rabbi Yosef "s description.
How can anyone listen to this?He is 90! Eventually we realize they are to old to have any say in the matter. Helen Thomas (same age) left the White House after making comparable remarks. Rabbi Ovadia Yosef CANNOT have any political power.
but Reb Yosef is way beyond his prime, and should definitely be ruminating over old times in some comfortable glatt-kosher pasture...
How can you say he has no power while he has tens of tousands folowers? He is simply a jewish ayatollah. Fact that prouve that religions are the way humans interpret their teachings. Religion have not intrincical evil. But humans have and they project it trough what they belive in..
If there were a God he would be insulted
its not a goo thing to hear a spiritual leader saying such terrible things but then again some arabs and the iranian leader are quick enough to call for the destruction of israel and its people. peace..will it ever happen???
http://www.rense.com/lets_stop_with_the_auschwitz_lies.htm.html
i am not terribly impressed by these comments. however, its important to note that R. Ovadia was one of the only (perhaps THE only) rabbi in the ultra-orthodox world to endorse the notion of "land for peace" (implicitly recognizing a 2-state solution) during the oslo years. As far as i know, he has not retracted this ruling. So the comments were certainly hateful, but contrary to what the haaretz reporter (and most talkbackers) seem to believe, it does not reflect a world view or an approach to peace with the Pals but rather, a strong sense that the current Pal leadership can only do harm to israel. You could dislike R. Yosef/Shas all you like, but to paint it as standard ultra-right wing party is simply factually wrong.
when that lunatic of Ahmadinejad spoke...is a fascist and hateful person; but when this holy old guy say the samne thing but not about Israel but arabs...is just wrong. "A Reader", your sense of equality is very twisted. This guy is representation of extrimism and racism, who consider his race superior to others.
Its a fact that the palestinians are our enemies so we can't exactly say he got his facts wrong on that point. Name calling might not be Obamas way but its not going to change the outcomes of any talks. If Rabbi Ovadia wants to denounce the palestinians and make plain he see them as an enemy of the state he is more than welcome. One of the great things about Israel is people have freedom of speech. If this was an arab state Ovadia would have been carted off to jail. Let him say what he wants because its not hurting anybody.
l'shon hara?
The pro-Israel-no-matter-what camp has arguesd against what ur saying for years...Every squeek by a whaco arab gets headlines news, and the pro-Israel camp makes sure it gets as much attention as possible...Of the hundreds of Arab TV channels floating out there..MEMRI dedicates its purpose to scoping out every negative thing any arab says to show the world...Arafat's famous "what he says in english is different than what he says in arabic", the arab textbooks affair,etc....Im not saying these things dont represet legitimate concerns, just arguing against your "freedom of speech" apologist reasoning...But then again the pro-isral-no-matter-what camp are champs at that!
That the palestinians and the rest of the Arab nations surrounding Israel are the enemies of the Jewish country and have been attacked for over 62+ years? if truth hurts, then who evr objects have to live with it. calling hi the Jewish Ahmedi is hardly apt. Telling it like it is not being like Ahmedi. The Rabbi does not advocate killing anybody,just the putting the record straight...As you pointedly said in Israel there is freedom of speech denied in anyu other Arab country who are dictatorships and people have to keep their moiths TIGHT SHUT.I am a secular Jew and I do ot find it offensive.What is really offensive is the WAY MUSLIMS show their digusting cartoons pertaining to Jews,pus their hostility toward Israel. of course it is not going to jeopardize the talks.Howeverandjust the same I hope BB does not give an inch on any demands asked by the Pals PERIOD.
Yeh zionistforever let him say what he wants cause he is too old to harm any one.But his followers as you seem to be are harming without any doubt. Am not defending PA and palestinian nomenklatura that I disqualify and disregard. They are so corrupted and so miserable.. But I am thinking about the average and low class palestinians who are mauled by the mighty Israel and manupilated by their so called leaders. And you know what? the pals nomenklatura, hamas included were all Israel's manufacturing. cause israel is in vital need for an ennemy. but an ennemy which must be under control.
just wondering. If you would consider the rantings of the Imams about the Jews being annihilated as free speech also?
This is quite the gap betwen Israel and the western nations: a racist like the rabbi would never stay in the governement and be brought in court for his racist statements
his speech is no different from islamic imams affiliated with Hamas.
What difference between this "Rabbi" and the worst of ayatollah? How can a religious officer speak in this hatefull maner?
Talk is cheap. For example the first vote on Oslo in the Knesset. Shas did not vote against. They know then and they know today that this was a mistake. They could have stopped Oslo. Abbas is bad for the Jews. I believe this as well. Let's see Shas follow through and put politics aside.
hes a damn a radical dont listen to him bibi
You are two of the ugliest faces of religion today.
this senile freaky old man should shut up permanently.compared to him ahmedinajad sounds like a boy scout..and after such a vile putrid speech israelis wonder,'why do they hate us'..
If this Rabbi were a Christian Priest in Germany during the second world war, what would he be saying about Jews? The answer scares me. Have we learned anything from our past?
just switch arabs with jews
... Hamas wants to wipe out Israel, but even Hamas doesn't call for God to exterminate all Jews. Seriously, his party is a member of the ruling coalition? And Israel has the balls to call Hamas ideologically beyond redemption?
the stupidity of the Israeli bashers. While he acts with words, he doesn't have a militia, and yes, Hamas calls for the extermination of Jews and drive them to the sea and to create a Greater Palestine. While he throws a sentence once every half a year, Hamas blows up on school buses. Keep posting, you give us all the moral high ground we'll ever need.
Why are people so shocked that this beloved Rabbi is ANGRY at the Palestinians! They recently honored a female suicide bomber by dedicating an area in her memory,they lie not to be believed, want preconditions for the privelidge of negotiating with them,Gave Israel the Gaza war,other suicide attacks, Intifadas,want Israels capital and WILL NOT EVEN RECOGNIZE ISRAEL as a JEWISH STATE!!! Of course he is outraged. To those that don't like to see Jews express their anger,,,Too Bad!!!
That was the Israeli argument to present themselves as loving peaceful, doing the Palestinian a favor by occupying them, killing them and take their land, we need more people like you and Rabbi Yosef to help the palestnian cause. not allowed to protect and defend theselves.
And by the ones who are being ugly when they read THE TRUTH that does not gel with their own perceptions. Why is that? I as secular Jew agree withe Rabbi Ovadia for thelling the truth. Is it not TRUE THAT THE ARAB PALS plus the rest of them have a common denominator i.e the destruction of Israel .They have been trying so since the REBIRTH of Israel. And without having to be repetitive agree with the rest of your post .
MAY IT BE SO !
Better to disappear from this world than to live in the world with such an idiot....
It is really embarassing. And he and Shas represent the Jewish refugees from Arab countries. They are also very intolerant.
Why did you forget the great intolerance by your erswhile domicile on how they treated you ha? You lived there as DHIMMI no? END
You need Palestinians to hide in their shade when Iranians come to anhilate you. Any way, welcome to the sermonise of Bin Laden number 2.
""It is forbidden to be merciful to them," he was quoted as saying. "You must send missiles to them and annihilate them. They are evil and damnable." Well thats what IDF did in Gaza last year. Wondering if he is also the spritual leader of the IDF!
I find it hard to believe such thoughts are not casually exchanged amongst Jews in private quarters - secular ones I might add - but putting that aside how should a Palestinian react to a "spiritual leader" making such comments - but more importantly a spiritual leader who leads a party that is currently part of the Netanyahoo government? We can dismiss this nut but the fact remains Shas is in the government? Will Netanyahoo keep Shas, of course he will. The problem is will Europe or America put pressure on him to distance himself from Shas? This is the big problem, this double standard with Lieberman and Shas and many other racist fascist factions part of the Netanyahoo regime with no one on the outside batting an eye: As though Jewish extremism is kosher. This kind of silence and indifference in the long run will boomerang against Jews. Religious extremists will become less tolerant and more belligerent to those within the tribe than those outside as they gain more power. The writing is on the wall!
This guy seems to be as extremist as Hamas - calling for annihilation. Terrible! Israel cannot gain legitimacy if it has loonies in power.
This is considered both inciting, racist, and evil in itself. To call the rightful owners of the land as evil and to wish us peril shows the true face of the settlement and far-right movement in Israel who wish Palestinians nothing but to vanish to take their land. Israel always rushes to accuse us of inciting, what about this 'religious' clown? Did you forget how the Jews got along just fine with Muslims in the lands for centuries? What a lunatic hypocrite.
If you love your country - you are fanatic. If you live on a street where there are a majority Arabs - you are a Settler. If you hate murderous enemies - you are racist. If you don't believe in the anti-Nationalist, global socialist, progressive agenda you are an enemy of mankind. These fools will lose in the end, because it will fail, as do all other 'progressive, unnatural ideologies'.
I love my country, (USA). You Love your country (Israel). How dare you and I to claim that we love our adopted countries more than the indigenous people of the land. The country you love belongs to someone that loves it more than you do.
I find it hard to believe such thoughts are not casually exchanged amongst Jews in private quarters - secular ones I might add - but putting that aside how should a Palestinian react to a "spiritual leader" making such comments - but more importantly a spiritual leader who leads a party that is currently part of the Netanyahoo government? We can dismiss this nut but the fact remains Shas is in the government? Will Netanyahoo keep Shas, of course he will. The problem is will Europe or America put pressure on him to distance himself from Shas? This is the big problem, this double standard with Lieberman and Shas and many other racist fascist factions part of the Netanyahoo regime with no one on the outside batting an eye: As though Jewish extremism is kosher. This kind of silence and indifference in the long run will boomerang against Jews. Religious extremists will become less tolerant and more belligerent to those within the tribe than those outside as they gain more power. The writing is on the wall!
These racist extremists are the biggest threat to the Israeli society ....first Arabs , then moderates after that " leftists" and finally everyone who is not ultra - Orthodox .
Ovadia Yosef is a shame to the Jews. He knows no more of "Torah" than the back of a shoe.
he is Ahmadinajad brother just look at him.
To all those calling Rabbi Yosef an old man or senile, be very careful. Just remember whay he said about Ariel Sharon, "he should get a 'banna' in his nead", and we saw a couple weeks later what happened. DON'T PLAY WITH OUR RABBIS.
Alan! You really scared me!
Talking about incitement Whiskey,shouldn't you also mention what the arab too.Are they pure angels who do not incite HATE constantly AGAINST ISRAEL IN EVERY PLACE? i.e their Videos,Memeri,and many more places too numerous to mention. ISRAEL HAS TO HAVE A STRONG VOICE and the Rabbi has the abilty and can tell exactly what is the TRUTH Do you not believe in truth whiskey? or are you a one sided observer who prefers the other side MORE.
A senile, bigoted, racist man, who should long ago deal with halachic minutia, instead of politics.
This guy is in a league of his own...or maybe in there with Bin Laden, perhaps...No Wait! He actually falls into the exact same category as that lunatic with the funny little mustache who made it big in Europe a while back...
and if you ask him who more should be annihilated he has a long list.The big problem is that Israel has nuclear weapon and has many "spiritual leaders" like him.
if this "AhmadiNajad of Israel" had the power to throw Palestinians in ovens!!! he would do it. this is not his first nor last comment. the problem is no one in Israel condemns his madness!!!
I hope like hell that this is plastered all over the international media...because HIS words have not been minced - no one has doctored them to the media with hasbara in order to portray something that was NOT! And to WHOM he can easily be compared - circa 1933-45 - requires no stretch of the imagination.
John 8:44. Jesus to Jewish religious leaders: "You are from your father the Devil, and you wish to do desires of your father......"
Perhaps you don't recall ahmadinejad calling judaism a gutter religion? a scourge? that hitler was right? I agree that this comment was wrong and that he should be ashamed of himself, but let's not be disingenuous. these "leaders" who oppose Israel have made equally terrible comments. Perhaps the cause of peace would be furthered if we all admitted to wrong on all sides, stopped name calling and begin to work together on a compromise reality on the ground--one that gives neither side all it asks, but gives each side some; one that recognizes that neither Israel nor the Palestinians is going away; and one with the maturity to accept that in order to live together in a small space we all have to be able to "make the best" of what can't be changed.
An old man that throws words of racism and Hamas, Ahmadinejad and Nassralah that put their genocidal ideologies to practice.
... yesterday their victims were the foreign workers and their children, and today it is the poor beleaguered Pals... who will it be tomorrow...?
If not, then expect it
I SAW IT COMING, NEXT ITS GOING TO BE NETANYAHU & OBAMA, THEN FINALLY THE ALMIGHTY USA.
Scary ..... so much for the commandments: "Thou shall not kill".... and "Thou shall not steal"...
Hmmm...when this rederick comes from Muslim extremists we scream. We can't allow ourselves to let these insane extremists ruin peace for rest of the world. we must condem this and let the world know that these few don't represent the good willed nature of the Jewish people.
Jesus Christ taught us to bless those who curse us. I am a Palestinian follower of Jesus Christ and I pray for you. Unfrotunately, your statements present a distorted form of Judaism. I hope that moderate Jews will strongly condemn these statements and present a Judaism that is not devoid of mercy and love.
When i compare this opinion from an Ultra Orthodox leader with the knowledge and the faith of my brothers from Neturei Karta , i understand that we have a long hard way to go. In the name of YHWH Moses gave us laws, and one of them is: Killing is not allowed. Another is love you're neighbour and next one like you want to be treated. A Rav who is calling to murdering people is not able to stand infront of Zadok, the Priest of David ben Yischai. When i would be the Rav, i would discuss the essence of faith and our prophecy: Only the Messiah is able to establsh the Kingdom Israel !!!! The Messiah will be called Bar Nafli, got the Gematria 372, is a tribe member of Judah ....and is alive in Europe and on his way back home ... . The problem for this Rav is, that the zionist regime is then finished. The problem is, that the democracy in Israel is then finished. But the good would be: Under HaMelekh Moshiach jews and moslems will be equal and have to share the same law and got the same right's. That's the reason why i like Neturei Karta so much, they for sure real members of the tribe of Judah. My conclusion is: You all and you're father's are all born there, so this is Hesekiel 2010 speaking: We take two pieces wood, on the one i write "for the children of Ismael and all who trust in Allah", on the other i write " for the children of Isaac and all who trust in YHWH", and i put this both together as one big Wood, which is called Avraham Beitenau. Can you remember David ben Yischai standing at the Jordan with the people of Judah and Israel ? I can remember, he became the first Messiah.
Two questions: did you take your medication? How much? Gott drunkener menschen are disqualified from the Olam Ha-Ba.
Or will everyone be labelled anti-Semitic for calling out the SOB for the trash that he IS!
When you called for annihilation of Israel, did you realize you were setting an example for others to follow? It seems you did not because now you are traumatized that a Jew repeats the same BS your leaders have been saying for decades. What comes around........
Isn't this same sort of thing he and other leading Rabbis said just before Rabin was murdered? He will be calling Bibi a rodef next.
Ahmadinajad REPEATEDLY said he has no issues with jews or the jewish religion and never called for their killing !! Even the Annihiliation allegation...his speech was twisted by the American media. He said there will come the time that the Zionist regime will have to be dismantled. Thats his opinion and in no way calls for the killing of jews !!!!!!!
that is what Israel does in action. So why should it be surprising to all if it was only said in words!
He looks and sounds like Khamenei. They should make him "Supreme Leader" too, then Israel and Iran would be twins.
Hey i think we need to realized that when we have enemies, we can't sit down & have cofee with them because their intention is to kill us. Its better to know your enemy instead of having your enemy as a friend, i wish it was different but this is what they showed us in the last century.
It seems that Ovadia Yosef is the enemy-of-Israel... because with the likes of him, peace will never reign here...
How could the Peace achieved while those mindsets exists and have an influence over the Israelis decision makers?
As if anyone gives a hoot what his Royal Holiness Ayatolah Yosef has to say, apart from a load of bleating shas supporters who have long lost the ability to think for themselves and instead hang on to every word muttered from the bigest clown of them all.
Shas has 11 out of the 120 seats of the Knesset - thats fractions short of 10%....
... that is the great peril for Israel...
Why do all crazy religious leaders look the same no matter which religion they represent ?
This is the core of it: religion is a mental mafia mechanism which comes as the price for humans being socialized witty primates. And all the shameless cruel padrinos look and act the same.
that is year 67 not 1967. i trust the rabbis judgment more than any one else in the world , god promised the land of Israel to the Jews as a religious leader of the Jewish people he not only has the right to make this statement he has a responsibility. Profits like Jeremiah in their day also weren't very popular.
he has the right to call for the death of the palestinians? and the responsibility too? what an interesting argument that is!! I think you are lost in time, and the norms of today.
But how astute of you to point out the connection joe b. Why get stuck on the year 67? Why not go back to the stone age?
In 67 (BCE or CE) the Romans owned Palestine and the Jews were their subjects
And such penitential words during the month of Elul. This creature sounds the words of Amalek. The tragedy, that is really reason to mourn, is that the majority of those who called themselves "haredim" the zealous ones in keeping the Torah, share his views and believe they are the views of the Torah. They have brought dishonor and shame on the whole House of Israel anf have sown nothing bu hatred throughout the world against others they equate with animals and prvided fodder for those who will think this vile man is truly a "spiritual leader".
Men should not work, women should be avoided when menstruating, gays are an abomination, mixing fabric should be pushable by death, Kibbutzniks are gentiles. Oh but when Sephardic girls aren't fit to study in an racially segregated school this Rabbi is silent. Sorry, but let's call a buffoon a buffoon. Most israeli's, Shas members included, disregard this kind of rant. It's almost a shame to even report this lunacy.
What a hateful figure! It makes easy for people to hate them. He is way worse than Ahmadinagad of Iran. Sorry to say but I don't expect Peres, or Natanyahu, or Abe Foxman, or saintly Elie Wiesel to say anything against him.
They lived with them. They lived under their tyranny. They understand their mentality. And therefore I trust Rav Ovadia's judgment on this much more than you lefty loonies.
Think what you will. Choose the "spiritual leaders" you want. This vile man lived in a society that allowed a flourishing of Jewish culture for centuries. And all you are saying is that he is of the very same ilk as those he curses. So you and he then are, according to your racist religious views, nothing but Arabs yourselves. He and he should go back to Iraq.
That God does not speak to you fake Israelites anymore? I guess you never thought about that. There will be no plagues. You are just as evil as the things he speaks of.
The 2 peoples lived side by side for over a thousand years. And the Jews were free to leave at any time unlike the pogroms throughout Europe. Its no wonder there were so many Sephardi in Morocco after having been kicked out of Spain.
Is that because he is a Jewish Arab?
he left iraq at the age of four. are you suggesting that this man has an incredible memory and can thus recall experiences from his late infancy?
but again no one remembers that.
Ovadia has no idea that when he points a finger at some one ( like in the pic above) three of his own fingers are pointing back at him. Sooooooooo who ever he is cursing he too is cursed with that same curse . Thats life
In Beirut they are rebuilding the grand synagogue of the former Jewish quarter, bombed by Israelis during their invasion of the country (see also: Baghdad). It was pro-Americans in the government that came with bulldozers to destroy it; it was the pro-Hezbollah newspaper al-Akhbar that printed the articles to save it. Tyranny? You will never hear anything like this hate directed at the Wadi al-Jamil community. Frankly, I think the Sephardim and Mizrahim should return to their native lands--everyone knows they were better treated by their Arab and Muslim brothers than they are being treated by their Ashkenazim slave owners.
... because he's no better than the worst and most ruthless Arab based on his statements.
... because he's no better than the worst and most ruthless Arab based on his statements.
good point
well our enemies will be laughing at us now,as you curse a fellow jew! thats a good irish catholic surname you have? now thers a hyoctitical religion who keep quiet on abuse by priests!
He was four when he came with his parents from Basra to live in Israel and spent two years in Cairo in the 1940s. And he was actually much more moderate and tolerant in his younger days. He was, and possibly still is, a great scholar. "Despite his controversial public comments, Rabbi Yosef has long been a distinguished rabbinical authority advocating peace negotiations in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and has done so since the late 1980s. His main justification is the halakhic principle of Pikuach Nefesh, in which all the Jewish commandments (excluding adultery, idolatry, and murder) are put on hold if a life is put in danger." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ovadia_Yosef#Position_on_the_Israeli-Palestinian_conflict // But his latter-day pronouncements reflect a tyranny that may be coming from another quarter: his very own offspring.
Good luck Israel, you have a lot to do. If you think the Arabs are your enemy, think again. For the past 60 years you've let a cancer grow under your skin called the religious movement. The future will not be good for you if you don't deal with this religious problem. Oh, yea, and I hope all you Israel haters understand that it is in the best interest of the world to unite against the Haredi/Orthodox movement both in Israel and around the world. For the sake of the secular Jews who promote left wing ideology and freedom (Yes they exist in Israel, the media just dosent like them), and for the sake of the occupied Arabs, we need a common goal. If people think the Arabs are being mistreated now, imagine how bad things will get if leaders like the Shas are put into absolute power. Israels seculars' are also under constant fire, people should see that attacking Israel as a whole only strengthens the religious fundamental movement.
you are so right,thanks for writing the truth and the rabbi is an obstacle for Israel making peace.
Well said Alan. Trouble is there could not be a government in Israel without the loony religious factions so maybe there will never be peace. The coalitions that stagger from one crisis to another cannot get on with each other let alone on the international stage.
The Rabbi has a right in this Democratic country to say anything even the most vile. On the other hand the Government should of course should distance themselves.
And do not forget that it was the Jewish lobbies who forced such legislation on Europe; laws that seem to not apply when it is Jews in the Jewish state doing the same thing. The Rabbi [sic] should be arrested and thrown in jail for hate speech at the minimum.
rights are provided and guaranteed for, until they become hate speech. Promoting hate and the death of a particular community or an identity group happened before in history. At this day and age, this should not be tolerated. Fascism is more dangerous when used under the cover of religion. Never again – today – is a universal principle.
Nobody listened to him when he warned not to leave Gaza, he said that Arabs are snakes and cannot be trusted. Now Israel has a rain of rockets and the world is against Israel more than before
What a chutzpah!
who ordained this guy; he should be defrocked he doesnt know torah at all
wishing for the death/destruction of an entire people is obviously a big sin....what justification can there be in Jewish law and code of ethics to support his outrageous statements; and coming from a rabbi!!!
I voted for Shas. I would do it again, Mike. What about you? If you don't like him, did you vote against him? No? Why not?
he is a moron and should not be a rabbi
It is unfortunate and disappointing to hear these statements from a "respected" man. These statements and other ones he said in the past reflect his aging thoughts and some degree of dementia. It seems it is time that he retires and stop his appearances in public. It is shame to hear this hatered statements that will prevent peace and supports the violence and hate. He feeds the extremes in shas to be violent and prote violence against israeli arabs as well as the palestenians in the west bank and gaza. God protect us from these creatures.
Shas are also anti gay calling them "beasts."
As you say and I agree about the homosexuals being called "beasts". Nevermind what the Rabbi says, G*D did not create woman and woma G*D created A MAN AND A WOMAN TO PROCRATE. Therefore it is not a NORMAL phenomenon TO BE A HOMOSEXUAL sorryy And the abreviations of calling themselves "GAY" do you know the meaning? I do but wonder if you are aware. Frankly I do not approve ofHOMOSEXUALITY.I also have no prejudice against them(CAPS ON SORRY) SO LONG AS THEY DO NOT ADVERTISE IT OPENLY AND KEEP IT TO THEMSELVES IT IS FINE BY ME.Do we hetrosexuals go around telling everyone what WE DO IN OUR BEDROOMS? But they do.Kissing in the open is something I abhore. Why do it? I call this TRYING TO ANTAGONIZE PEOPLE PUSPOSEFULLY.Why do they have to go down that line? Why oh why?
He sounds just like Ahmadinejad. Another example of Israeli hypocrisy at its finest. If I had a nickle for every time I heard about his so-called "wipe Israel off the map" claim, I'd be super rich.
If you look objectively at Shas leader Ovadia Yosef here, Hassan Nasrallah of Hezbollah in Lebanon and Ahmadinagad in Iran and other clerics in the Muslim world and Israel, you see that all these so-called leaders should form a party together; all of them are calling for the extinction of each other. Again, these voices are heard in Israel, the Palestinian territories, Iran, Lebanon and other countries. The majorities are not like those fanatics, narrow minded, demagogues; the majority is for peace. We must though remember that these voices after all are political voices and they do not necessary mean what they say. It is the game of politics in the Middle East, and if you are thin skin, weak, shaky, it is better for you to get out of the game.
If this religious freak is the spiritual leader of Shas, then it's not surprising that Eli Yishai has a racist agenda. How come the Israelis condemn racism and anti-semitism, but elect parties like Shas?
just procreate dozens of children per family, then indoctrinate to vote Shas... what could be simpler...?!
I'm curious. Will Abe Foxman and the ADL have any official comment on his statement?
I expect that it will. While I haven't yet heard a response from the ADL to this offensive comment, the organization has repeatedly condemned similar statements from Rav Ovadia and other Shas leaders.Search the ADL's website and you can find many such condemnations of Shas's outrageous expressions of hatred.
I expect that it will. While I haven't yet heard a response from the ADL to this offensive comment, the organization has repeatedly condemned similar statements from Rav Ovadia and other Shas leaders.Search the ADL's website and you can find many such condemnations of Shas's outrageous expressions of hatred.
... are equally dangerous because they are intolerant to each other. But the left-wingers had (and still have) an illusion that peace negotiations without firm approach to the ultimately important issues: kepping East Jerusalem, the settlements and having 100% impenetrable security system - can bring the end to the conflict. The2nd intifada was the price to pay for those illusions. The only way to follow is the secular right approach. Unfortunately the parties that constitute that point of view don't have a majority in the Knesset, so they are forced to include the ortodox into the coalition. Hopefully they will have more freedom after the next elections.
Needs to be banished from the Middle East for his comments. Just like you would do with any arab that has merely gone overseas for work or education. Throw him out of Israel!
I am ashamed
Not that I agree with it, but isn't that hamas' charter in reverse?
Hamas is a rebel group or freedom fighters or terrorist, whatever suits you to call them, but this dude is a religious leader of Jews. Significant differences.
Rabbi Ovadia is a spiritual leader of one party - Shas, which represents segment of religious Jews of Sephardic origin. Not more and not less. Hamas is party which had a mandate from the majority of the Palestinians to govern PA. So it's supposed to be a legitimate government of the Palestinians. It's huge difference.
Both groups are lunatics, don't understand how such groups can be part of a government ... Oops forgot that extremist Israelis and Arabs are the same bunch of terrorists who call out for killing the other one in the name of god !!!!
Imagine how Israelis would act if a popular religious leader in Iran called for the death of all Israelis? This sick old man with his vile beliefs leads a group, Shas, that has blackmailed Israeli governments on the left and the right to give them millions of shekels for their votes. If Israel is to ever be the light unto nations it once was so called spiritual leaders like this crazy rabbi should be harshly criticized for their disgusting remarks by Netanyahu and Peres and Israeli governments need to say one word to Shas when they try and bribe the government again .... NO!.
...by the laws of the land, get out of there and go live on a desert island where you can do whatevere you want, hate whoever you like without impinging on the rights and security of others.
Lock up this guy, Rabbi Ovadia Yosef , together with his companions in Hamas, and let them work things out. I'm sure they will find a good solution to this mess. After all, they are the same type, just different blood.
This man is a racist and must be treated as a war criminal.Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, has called repeatedly for the annihilation of Arabs. "It is forbidden to be merciful to them. You must send missiles to them and annihilate them. They are evil and damnable," He is one of the most powerful religious figures in Israel. He is known for his outspoken comments and has in the past referred to the Arabs as "vipers". "The Lord shall return the Arabs' deeds on their own heads, waste their seed and exterminate them, devastate them and vanish them from this world". No punishment would come from Israel "because its political culture and action are in line with [the rabbi's] racist statements". His remarks add nothing but hatred.
I think the Rabbi needs a few lessons in manners. Palestinians are here to stay and persevere they will. Their cause is just and noble. Now...Abbas on the other hand, needs to retire, hang it up, collect pension and call it a day. Abbas should just stop pretending to be a leader because he is not qualified to speak on his people's behalf.
I think the Rabbi needs a few lessons in manners. Palestinians are here to stay and persevere they will. Their cause is just and noble. Now...Abbas on the other hand, needs to retire, hang it up, collect pension and call it a day. Abbas should just stop pretending to be a leader because he is not qualified to speak on his people's behalf.
the rabbi is double talking. in reality he is a peacenick, was a partner on the oslo accords, and one of the first religious rabbis to promote land for peace. his voters are right wing so he talks harshly to satisfy them. even when he voted against the hitnakut, 1. it was passing anyway so why should he anger his voters, his vote wouldn't matter and 2 he mentioned that if it wouldn't be unilateral he would vote for it. you gotta understand his voters to understand his radical talk. as a person he is fairly moderate.
To justify the ranting of a maniac is to agree with him. You must be just one of those maniacs in disguise..
i'm just ignoring his speeches and pointing out his moderate views on the israel arab issues. its not what he says its what he does.
although there are some exceptions among the Palestinians. Also sometimes you can negotiate a nonbelligerance pact with enemies
Thanks, Rav Ovadia. That's very helpful. And Shalom to you too.
This preacher, originally from Iraq, is intolerant, bigoted, religiously zealot, separatist, extreme and nuts. Welcome to the Middle-East brother Yusuf, you will be delighted to know that the Arabs think exactly like you. The Middle-east has become a sort of lunatic asylum for people like you.
...and I've never ever heard anyone talking in a similar language against jews.
Rabbi's are preachers of faith, goodness, tzdakah, and ticun olam. Rabbi's that preach hatred should be excommunicated. He is a disgrace to Judaism, the Torah, and the Talmud.
From what I know about the Talmud, the Torah and Judaism, he is a credit to his faith.
He lived through oslo and 4 wars
What is happening to this country? We are being taken over by raving fanatics!!!!!!!!
How is this in conformity with Torah?
For those who say the Arabs don't want peace--look no further than Ayatollah Ovadia Yosef. People like him are celebrated in Israeli society, not condemned. This "Rabbi" represents a large segment of the Israeli population. Which side doesn't want peace again?
Your post about this Jewish Ayatollah being celebrated and representing Israeli society amounts not slander and utter drivel. He is a senile racist, who speaks his ugly mouth every now and then. Yes, just like the Ayatollahs. But Israeli society doesn't cheer him, like Palestinians cheer Nasrallah or Osama bin Laden sharing sweets.
This man and the Iranian president should endure the same fate: total isolation and zero power.
What is the difference between the hateful statements made by Ovadia Yosef against Palestinians and Arabs and those made by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad against Jews? Absolutely nothing! The world would be a better place without either of them!
The difference is that Rabbi Ovadia is not Israeli Prime Minister or President.
Just because Ahmadinejad stated that Israel should disappear from the map is not equivalent to saying that all Jews should perish. He questions the numbers of Jews killed by Germans, but so do some Jews. And why are there still Jews living in Iran? I am not supporting the man, just pointing out that he never said to kill all Jews the way that Ovadia Yosef said to destroy all Arabs.
what is written and Ahmadinejad didn't say it
... If you have read or heard anything like that , then please point me to it. What he said was that the Zionist regime should be/would be wiped out of the face of the earth.
Though utterly irrelevant, Ahmadinejad has no hatred towards any jew, nor has he ever made hateful statement against jewish people or faith.
I suspect that anywhere else in the world this person would be locked up, it will be interesting to see what the official line is on this one.
We Jews hate to hear Palestinians saying things like that, so how does he think they will react when they hear such comments thrown their way? Let's see the leaders try to make things better instead of worse. Can't we all just get along?
this rabbi is not a spiritual leader,religion preaches peace,forgiveness,to all mankind.to asks god to annihalates a whole people asking to be free from evil occupation and strugling for justice is ungodly and satanic,we dont needs such man who preaches hatred and destruction for any nation or people
..."beat around the bush," is he? (Or to worry that he might sound a lot like that guy from Iran, either.)
This guy is in a league of his own...or maybe in there with Bin Laden, perhaps...No Wait! He actually falls into the exact same category as that lunatic with the funny little mustache who made it big in Europe a while back...
I would put hamas on a higher standing, as they have not yet reached this level of disgusting. But Shas is reaching closer to their goal of making israel the new iran.
I'm sure if a Palestinian spiritual/religious leader expressed similar sentiment regarding any other race or religion all hell will break loose throughout the world. It seems that now a days, real racist and bigots can get away with murder as long as they are Israelis!
just look for some authentic recordings of friday prayers in the palestinian authority and practially every day they are preaching genocidal thoughts. the problem was and is that the world is NOT responding and hell NEVER breaks out about constant hate speach of the muslims! once jews do hate speach, hell breaks out.
Arab religious leaders have said the same thing. Listen to Nassralah and Hamas leaders. Go to MEMRITV.COM
when you make such a serious claim, without backing it up, we have serious problems. "look for some authentic recordings of Friday prayers in the palestinian authority" is not backing up. I do not have information that would disprove your claim, but I am sure that if it exists it is not even close to the level you are trying to make it seem like. From what I am observing, most people represented by all factions and parties on this thread, are not demonising a particular group over the other. Those who are being demonised and rejected, by Israeli, Palestinians, and the international community are those that preach for hate at a time of last chance for peace. A racist is a racist, a fascist is a fascist; regardless of their creed, colour, ethnicity, nationality or religion.
Don't make me laugh about your remar lk concerning Memri TV . A subsidiary of the ministry of hasbara in Tel Aviv
This is what such people teach settlers and other extremists in Israel. They foster hatred fueled by religious reasoning that is non sense. Even Hamas has never said religous-like statements such as "it is forbidden to be merciful to them". When those leaders represent spiritual figures in Israel we can just foresee more people like Goldstein and the like. The difference between such people and lets say, for instance, Hamas is that Goldstein was motivated by ideas fostered by people like Ovadia Yosef and those from Hamas are fighting an aggressive occupation. Or perhaps some would argue its not an occupation!!!
If you read article 31 of the Hamas charter it is exactly the opposite of what this nutball rabbi says Article Thirty-One: “As to those who have not borne arms against you on account of religion, nor turned you out of your dwellings, Allah forbiddeth you not to deal kindly with them, and to behave justly towards them; for Allah loveth those who act justly.” (The Tried – verse 8).
...look at their actions.
And how is this different from Ahmadinijad? or Holocaust Denial?
Well, as far I can see, one silly person denies the systematic murder of humans and the other supports the future murder of humans. What do you think? I'm just curious.
And both are part of governments. Israel has more accurate weapons.
But only controls a military!
The saving grace is that not even the dinner jacket has control of any military. He's about as powerful as the Israeli President.
Ahmadinijad has consistently said that he favors a referendum by all Palestinains, including Jewish Palestinians, to determine the form of government for all of Palestine. Ahmadinijad is tor the end of the Zionnist state, not the extermination of the Jewish people. Yusef, on the other hand, call for the extermination of the Arab people, Big difference..
Evil incarnate the likes of which darkly stain all humanity.
This is just as revolting as anything Ahmadinijad has ever said. Will the same people who (rightfully) condemn him come out against the Shas leader?
Here is the proof!!!!!!!!!! Israel does indeed want peace. and it wants the Palestinians to have peace as well, the peace that all dead have.
He sounds just like the fanatical Iranian Mullahs....he shames Israel.
Silly old fool. Too old to care for future generations. That is the problem with religious and poilitical leaders.
Watch your mouth my friend. This Godly man has more clout with the big man than you can possilbly imagine.
"God should strike them with a plague, them and these Palestinians." "It is forbidden to be merciful to them," he was quoted as saying. "You must send missiles to them and annihilate them. They are evil and damnable." Drew, what "big man" do you speak of? Does the big man you believe in condone such beliefs? If so, you may want to reconsider this "big man"...
Don't worry...God is an underachiever and takes August for vacation, and is unmoved by prayer, sacrifice, suffering rightiousnes, etc. Ovadia's words are full of sound and fury signifiying nothing
someone send this senile idiot to a nursing home already.
ISRAEL FUTURE SHOULD BE DECIDED BY POLITIIONS AND NOT BY A CRAZY OLD MAN.
If you cut out the *colorful* language of the rabbi, you get to the meat of of his thought :- there is no prospect of true peace with Islamists since they desire nothing else but to drive Israelis back to where they came from. Most Israelis and non-Israelis would agree. However in the interests of diplomacy perhaps, the Rabbi should curb his rhetoric.
I agree with Rabbi Yosef. They hate us and would kill us all if they could. We are only bluffing ourselves if we believe that peace is possible and the press are running this 'peace campaign to no where'.
for centuries muslims have been protecting the jews, under the muslim rule the jews florishied until the retreat from example Spain.Why do you think it is going to be diffrent in the future?
Should these comments been made by a non Jew,Jews would being singing and playing the anti-semetic game.Good loving jews should automatically condem this spiritual racist comments.
He is promoting terrorist acts based on sole bigotry!
These people is very extremist and illogical, seems that they think that we are living currently in the stone age.
Don't you have one ounce of respect?
SEFARADIM SHOULD FIND A BETTER MESHUGNER TO REPRESENT THEM.HE IS BRINGING SHAME TO US.
None whatsoever!
Respect must be earned; outside of commentary, how in the real world does this old man with a failing man earn respect?
It's a slight to all barbarians...many of whom do not even begin approach the loathsome nature of this 'thing'.
He is not Sephardic. He is MIZRAHI. Big difference Soleiman.