Israeli female soldier accosted for rebuffing Haredi bus segregation

#69 says "secular girls who wear fashion clothes, drink alchohol, go to discos and rock and roll, and end up needing psychological help as young adults" They participate in "gay, bisxual, antisemetic" culture and are subject to "sexual diseases such as aids, gonorehha, syphlis and clamidya." Give me a break. All secular girls who do these things need psychological help, become gay, get STDs? No religious girls who do not do these things need pyschological help, or are gay or get STDs?Neither one of these propositions is even remotely true or supported by anything other than #69's intense and profound ignorance. Obivoulsy, there is a broad range of behaviors and personality profies both in the religious and secular worlds. That #69 has chosen to construct an anti-secular straw man (or woman, as it were) that has about as much validity as the Nazi view of a Jew or the white racist view of a Black hardly justifies vile behavior on the part of the Haradi.

It appears the anti-chareidi media frenzy in Israel is having an impact, even on notables such as Nobel Prize laureate Alex Libak, who stands accused of taking his anti-chareidi philosophy to the next step. The prestigious Libak allegedly targeted Lily, a 4-year-old chareidi girl from Beit Shemesh. Lily was heading home on Monday with her mother, Meirav, when Libak, a photographer, verbally assaulted the mother and daughter, with the latter reporting “I was attacked by a Haaretz photographer”, who turned out to be Libak. Meirav is quoted by Chadrei Chareidim as saying Libak spat at them as well. She explains the area was empty when the event occurred, hence there are no witnesses. She continues detailing the attack, explaining “He began shouting at Lily and I asked him why he is shouting at a little girl, turning his body in a threatening fashion. Lily clung to me in fear”. Meirav continues explaining they had an exchange of words, during which Libak spat at them, stating after she arrived home and realized what had taken place, she broke down and began crying. A formal complaint was filed against Libak with Beit Shemesh police on Tuesday night, December 27th.

The possible explanation for the timing is the winding down of the Arab-Israeli conflict. When the external threat declines, it is to be expected that societies will turn to internal conflicts that what your seeing in israel now..!

These fanatics should be severely punished.

Ridiculous !!! They free Arab terrorist baby butchers and fill the jails with Haredis who call people names

This is a joke, right ? Honestly, I can’t believe what is going on. It sounds like a gangster rap - tune where the protagonists call all the girls „Biatches“ and only care about riding in the front seats of their fancy cars. Mrs. Doron Matalon looks stunning. Maybe the man was just overwhelmed. Maybe this whole article its just a joke. The Ultra-Orthodox are studying and waiting for Moshiach ben Yoseph and Moshiach ben Ephraim to appear. Until then „The Zionist Regime“ as the enemies of Israel call the country is a legitimate state. That means the Ultra Orthodox and the Secular must be able to live side by side. Finding a compromise without such ridiculous articles. But again .. this sounds like a joke to me as each side must be able to understand the view of the other. Best wishes. Peace. H.

put the through the gas chambers. There is no other solution.

she is hot.. she can sit next to me any time.... wish i can be her boyfriend... hot mama. dont pay attention to thouse silly man in black.

next time just tear gas those dogs and get off the bus !

Mr. Peres stated that no person has the right to threaten a girl, woman or person in any way and that the religious zealots are extremists and a small minority. peres also said that these zealot extremists are not the lords of this land. the ultra orthodox vew is that women should not be lords over ultra orthodox men. only the g-d of israel is lord over them. peres must think he was addressing children in his statement. israel is a very sexual culture. haredi men do not want to be influenced by women they perceive to be non-religious. but it goes beyond that. haredi men have wives children. haredi parents don't want thier children influenced by secular girls who wear fashion clothes, drink alchohol, go to discos and rock and roll, and end up needing psychological help as young adults. so haredi men spit on them and call them prostitutes. haredi men do not bow down to the latest fashion trend like israeli secular girls do. and haredi men don't want their sons and daughters influened by such culture. so they spit on them and call them prostitutes. haraedi zealots could do worse. they could in the curse of destruction on such little girls in their fashion outfits. haredi men could pray to hash-m and have those girls take a vacation to hollywood so the little secular girls can see the fashion world for real in hollywood california. a culture of gay, bisxual, antisemetic and sexual diseases such as aids, gonorehha, syphlis and clamidya. so the hardim spit on them and call them protitutes. if you do not believe me, come to los angeles here to hollywoood and then you will see why, mr peres the hareim will not bow down to secular little girls n thir fashion clothes. haredim do not want hollywood to be lord over them.

Silly little putz. Salaam/Shalom

How far did we not com. Are we any different t then those fanatical Muslims? Don't we care how the free world sees us. SHAME SHAME.

They are many more of the kind on earth than of Jews so the Haredim even reproducing like rabbits will have a lot to hate : they do not need any bus or transport of any kind to remain isolated in their shtetl or ghetto so they would see anybody else, except maybe the postman who brings them the money they dont work to earn.

That woman is ready to die for Israel. She deserves, at least, respect. Shame on a society that permits it to happen!

When these Haredi men assault women, they should be paraded naked down the main street with women police or military guarding them. Putting them in jail would make them martyrs, this would deter them.

I hope Israel puts an end to this. Religion should have only a limited space in the public arena. Self-appointed zealots should be put behind bars. What is this? The Jewish Republic of Israel? I find the behavior of these Haredim completely disgusting.

Stateside, we have a law against discrimination tow ard members of the Armed Forces when in uniform. If Doron was not in uniform she might have shown her ID card and told her tormentors, "Hey, guys--be have yourselves! My last name is Matalon and my first name is [her grade/rank!" If in uniform, "My last name is Matalon My first name's on my [sleeve, sh oulder, collar--pointing to her grade/rank insignia]!" Hopefully, any veterans or active GIs aboard wud come to her aid Such disrespect toward Israeli GIs is wrong...Aaron Allen [fmr USGI]...

Ultra-Orthodox = Ultra-Stupid

in the bus, they can walk! Public transportation means that it is for everybody!

and they dare talk about islamist fundamentalist.. look at these Haredi people.. they are 100 times worse than the most extremist muslim! bus segregation?! haven't heard that before.. maybe in Afghanistan stone age... so much for democracy and freedom in Israel! haha!

This all started from a left wing activist who never used this when kadima was in power but is now trying to make it out to be that the country is so much more radical when kadima did nothing about it but their friends the media never said anything.

I'm disgusted. Why does he think he needs to act like that? It's uncalled for. The Haredi community disgusts me most of the time, but at least they keep their misogyny and bigotry to themselves. This woman didn't ask his opinion. Ugh.

Kadima's govt under olmert and livni also argued in court to allow the private busing segregation to be allowed to continue. Yet you see when an issue pops up in the media then livni the hypocrite portrays herself as a great woman leader. What utter hypocrisy.

It was in Israel on Wednesday morning reported that a chareidi man was arrested for verbally assaulting and spitting at a female soldier on a number 49 bus. According to a Kol Chai Radio report, eyewitnesses told police that the events were quite different than reported initially. They stated the female soldier sat among many men and she was asked politely to please sit elsewhere. The chareidi who addressed the soldier was not rude, and he most certainly did not curse of spit, the report adds. Passengers’ report that police arrived on the scene very fast, and the actions of the police at the scene attested to their total lack of objectivity, placing the haredi under arrest, opting to believe the soldier and ignore the statements from eyewitnesses. Advertise On YWN » Jerusalem Police Commander Niso Shacham released a statement, quoting the avreich as saying “harlot, move to the back!” The senior commander explains this is what was reported to him by Egged. “We sent a car and the criminal was arrested and he will be facing the full weight of the law”. – Israel Desk, Jerusalem)

That is pretty horrible, if someone says "You are a Jew" in a disrespectful way the ADL will be all over it. We see how the orthodox really feel about the IDF, remember when they attacked that base? They have no shame.

todo el mundo mira que aquellos que se llaman a si mis,mismo" hobres religiosos" son los primeros que no cumplen con la Tora talvez sus estudios proseden de diferentes fuentes de conocimiento y no de la verdadera Tora

Gotta love those Haredi rascists...

Does any one else find it strange that they posted a half naked picture of this girl ? Wouldn't a picture in uniform been more appropriate ? 20. She's hot ! And brave and righteous too ! 18. wow, is she beautiful...! she should not be hassled by anyone… So if she wasn't "hot" or "beautiful," it would be ok to hassle her !? That is the only thing you care about. I bet you are out now searching Facebook for naked pictures of her! and to Nina: haredis who do not want to see whoman should be blinded. And what should be done to the perverts here that want to try to see you ( or your daughter ) naked!?

Awful treatment, especially to a soldier. Did she tell him she was getting off? Was the isle full of men? In that case she should not move back because she would be brushing against men. Haaretz, why is her picture without clothes? Respect her dignity.

Not only does the man show he's a sexist, but that he's also a racist. Imagine if a tourist wanted to board that bus with that crazy man? Personally, if I were on there, I would have showed him how to behave.

but perhaps it is a prophet who shows her that this is only a fraction compared to what IDF is doing to the Palestinians at the checkpoints. I hope you've learned something

Just look at her picture in this article. She needs to cover herself and cover her hair. Look how exposed she is. She is embarrassing herself and the religion.

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I'm sick of shikse, goim, and women, these three subjects are equal! haredim make me sick! As a democratic state these attitudes should be deterred as in having a policeman on every bus or somehing like that!

As a Jew, ardent Zionist and long term supporter of Israel, it disgusts me to see fellow Jews acting like Iranian mullahs. There is no room in modern Israeli society for this type of abuse, discrimination and harrasment, especially of a soldier, who unlike a majority of Haredi men, puts her life on the line every day. We (Israelis) are not garnering any sympathy from the world at large, when a small fringe fanatical minority is allowed to trample on the rights of a majority. This is the kind of news we are accustomed to getting out of Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Afghanistan and other fanatical, Muslim countries. Shame, shame, shame!

I guess having men on one side and women on the other would imply equality. Unless of course the women were delegated to the left ("sinistra" in Italian).

israel better solve this problem & soon if they don't want an outbreak of violence between secular jews & the far right. if mr. prime minister does not cure this cancer it will destry him & his political party.

Thank God Israel must be in a good place security wise if this is news. The media seems to be trying to cause a war against the ultra-orthodox. There are some people there that do stupid things, but no reason to start a war over one bad comment from someone that claims to be charedi

Proud Haredim ...maniacs!

when you want Israel to be a jewish state - rather then a state for the Jews. Religion is a private matter only, and human and civil rights, the rule of (secular) law and equal rights, regardles of gender, sexual orientation, race or religion are the foundation of a democracy. Bring religion into the equation, like exempting some people of their duty to serve in the IDF, or like turning a blind eye or even supporting settlers, and you create something that is a democracy in name only. The biggest threat to Israel today is not Iran. The biggest threat to Israel is of this marvelous, brave and proud country turning into a second Iran. To put it more bluntly: How dare these protofascist, so-called ultra-orthodox assholes insult an IDF soldier, who is providing the very safety under which they, who don't serve, live? Every single violation should be prosecuted. And all of Israel needs to revert to becoming again a free and liberal democracy.

What a shame. Sociopaths who take liberty of insulting others should be imprisoned, for they have no place in civilized society.

good to see an arrest has been made

when they have their doting wives at the ready, to welcome their husband's return from a hard day's "Bobba Meissahs" Such handsome, fine figures of Men must be such a turn on for a young woman, that it's a wonder the female soldier could contain her passion without demanding a "Gang Bang", there and then. They make me Puke...

You are the smartest, strongest women in the world today. A real blessing. Yesterday 5 women graduated to be pilots in the Israeli air force. You win noble prizes. Don't give in to these primitives, sit wherever you like. Eighty percent of Israeli men would love to break that arm that pushed you off the bus. We are with you.

Who is a Jew? How should Jews behave toward one another? How should Jews behave toward non-Jews? How is the "Jewish" state really Jewish? How can zionism produce an entity that is truly both Jewish and democratic in the same way for all its citizens, both Jewish and non-Jewish? Since 1948, zionism has been unable to answer any of these questions. And now the chickens are coming home to roost. Violence and contempt for the other are rampant and Judaism of the shtetle has been reproduced in Israel where an ongoing decades long occupation has deprived it of any of its universalistic values. The future is not good and once again we see a society that is riven my not only sinat chinam but hatred and contempt for all others not of the tribe as well. 64 years and this is what you've come to.

It is time to enforce our laws to the fullest measure. NO EXCEPTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stand up for your rights, Doron, we are all with you. Kol Hakavod Lach. I wish Jerusalem would have as few ultra-orthodox aggressive nutcases as beautifulo Florence in the background of the photo.

for those that would like to see Israel lose allt the support it still has in the world. Not that there is much of that to begin with. But I'm guessing the haredim think g-d will come to their rescue instead.

how such people can act like this to a member of Tzahal, they should be put directly in prison what a shame...

Where are the POLICE? Pepper spray these FREAKS! Lock them UP!! What year is this. SAD TO BE A JEW!

For such kind of thing a mandatory administrative arrest with an automatic 12 months forced labour must be enforced. Soon you will not have any "kosher" buses and similar things: which are a disgrace to the Almighty

He should be prosecuted. And he should be forced to serve. If he wants to live segregated from women, he can move to Borough Park, Brooklyn. He wouldn't sacrifice anything for Israel, anyway.

If this practice had been nipped in the bud, it wouldn't have reached its presentr proportions. The secular public feels inferior towards the haredim, somehow thinking thbat they are closer to the "real" Judaism. Well,wearing 18th-century Polish nobility costumes doesn't make one any "closer" to the "real" Judaism.

The extremist Jews have been growing for decades and now they have come out to play.

Between Stockholm and Tehran, Israel of today is much closer to Tehran. From birth to death, from circumcision to funeral. Israel is operating in the shadow of the commandments of religion.

I always thought, Israel wanted to be a shining example for the civilized world, and not for the more barbaric part of it. Then you want to convince the world that Israel is a democracy where minorities enjoy equal rights. Don't make us laugh.

That is basically what they are saying by calling that woman that.

Why not take this to the extreme? It seems to me that men should always be in that part of the bus that is closest the Kotel.

The ultra-Orthodox will destroy your country.

"I am a vengeful god," - God (Genesis) Almost makes me want to move back to Israel. Not.

Bibi wants Israel to be a Jewish state . The Ultra-Orthodox want a religious state like the Islamic states in the middle east . Strange they already running your country