IDF soldier posts images of blindfolded Palestinians on Facebook, from 'best time of my life'
Female soldier smiles for camera in front of bound prisoners, before joking online with friends; army calls photos 'ugly and callous'.
By Haaretz Service Tags: Israel news IDF Israel facebook PalestiniansA former Israel Defense Forces soldier has raised a storm on the internet after posting photographs of herself posing next to blindfold Palestinian prisoners on Facebook.
Photographs uploaded by Eden Abergil from Ashdod and labeled "IDF – the best time of my life" show her smiling next to Palestinian prisoners with their hands bound and their eyes covered.
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Photo posted by a former IDF soldier on Facebook. |
"That looks really sexy for you," says a comment posted by one of Abergil's friends on the social networking site, alongside a picture or the soldier smiling in front of two blindfold men.
Abergil's repose, posted below, reads: "I wonder if he is on Facebook too – I'll have to tag him in the photo."
Because Abergil was discharged a year ago, the army has no power to prevent her from publicizing the photographs.
The pictures have since been removed from the site - but not before being duplicated across the web by a variety of bloggers and news sites.
The IDF said in a statement: "These actions are ugly and callous; details of the incident have been forwarded up the chain of command."
Israeli blogger Lisa Goldman contacted the former soldier via Facebook, who replied: "I don't speak to leftists."
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Photograph with Palestinian prisoner uploaded by former IDF soldier to Facebook. |
In the past year, the IDF hs announced new strict rules for soldiers, forbidding them to post photos from military operations and bases.
IDF military intelligence has an office tasked with identifying leaks of sensitive material and can refer cases to military police, potentially leading to a criminal conviction for any soldier caught breaking information security directives.
Yishai Menuchin, the director of the Public Committee Against Torture, an NGO, Yishai Menuchin, condemned the soldiers actions:
"The horrible pictures demonstrate a norm of treating Palestinians like objects instead of human beings – treatment that disregards their feelings as humans and their right to privacy."
He added: "The soldier would go crazy if photographs of her in humiliating circumstances had been posted on the internet without her permission. We call upon IDF commanders to issue orders to prevent this kind of humiliating behavior."
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It just doesn't its ugly and callous nature to be documented and placed online for the world to see! Remember that one of the preparations before entering Gaza, during Op Cast Lead, was to ensure that none of its soldiers carried a cell phone or camera? Most unfortunate for the IDF that it can't control the situation as closely during routine operations.
Zionism at its best
Yes it was wrong and childish for her to post the photos (taking the photo is another matter) but such comments as "The dignity and humanity of Jewish people in Israel must be questioned by all people everywhere", is completely and outerly over the top. Far, far worst happened as at Abu Ghraib in Iraq by the US and the Brits - not that this make it right, it just goes to show that YES the IDF is the most moral Army. I won't even go what the European did during various far less existential wars and more to the point, what the Arabs do - no photos just a head rolling down the chair for the camera and millions of sadistic supporter online. The IDF can be accused of negligence in preventing a teenager taking photo on a war that the Palestinians have imposed on Israel - they should certainly look at disallowing personal camera on duty. The feedback expressed here reflect the true problem of Israel. Every single incidents is used to delegitimize and demonize Israel and/or the Jewish People. It goes far beyond the reasonable criticism of Israel. Get over yourelf, get a life and get real!
Or don't she know, what the Germans have done to the Jews?
What a shame....people like this let this country down and all that it is. Hey girl.....go get a life!
This woman's name and picture should be plastered all over the Net as an example of pure stupidity. You have to be pretty dense not to understand that a) this is morally wrong, b) it besmirches the image of the IDF and Israel and c) it will be used ad nauseum (someone translate that for her) by those who hate Israel to their very core. This just proves that Israel is like any other place: it has its share of idiots.
..you will probably wonder why he feels the need to do that. You may also be leery of doing business with him. So it is with Israels brag about their army being the "Most moral army in the world". This is a claim that only Israel will make. The armies of other nations do not feel the need. I have noticed that this claim is not made so often anymore by Israelis. No doubt they have figured out that this is not a claim that you would make even if it were true. You simply would not feel the need to do this. Only if it is not true would you make this claim as part of a propaganda effort. Propaganda is something that Israel knows something about. They used to be good at it. Now they have lost control. In their efforts to regain control, they have become terrible at propaganda.
A violation of human rights. What is Israel doing to its children?
This is the nature of occupation. You have 18 years old soldiers in charge. This one is stupid and obnoxious. It is hard for such young guys to make the distinction between "this might be a terrorist who might explode with me" and "nevertheless I should remember he might not be a terrorist today". Most soldiers are totally humane and respectful, but some are actually worse! In occupation only the worse count and so occupation is ugly. HOWEVER GET THIS: Palestinians can finish this whole occupation at once, just by admitting both Jews and Arabs have a right to live here. They only have to say this and wham!, all occupation is gone. The power of pictures - its all about feelings. If you get out from the sentiments induced by the picture, you realize these cuffed guys support terrorism and would actually kill that soldier, if the situation was opposite. We don't see the holders of Shalit, we don't see Iranian stoning women half buried, we don't see Hamas shooting people in the knees, we don't see the Palestinians getting medical care in Israel and then say they want to be shahids when they get home (all this actually happens), so we don't hate them. And here is a riddle: we're going to see many such media nasty stories of bad behavior, and guess why they'll be more and more pronounced as peace talks proceed? So much for media manipulations. The media will say "the sun is the best cure". Maybe, but I wonder how happy the media would be if their editorial discussions would be recorded and published. Having said that, this particular soldier behavior is disgusting, and should be punished.
and both though the pictures would be more widely appreciated. At what further point would any vestigial morality have inhibited them?
Those pics [a few years go] I recall showed Iraqies naked or the soldier riding them or walking on leash.
You have to wonder how many IDF soldiers there are that do this and don't post it. Of course, this is the most moral army in the world! HA!
I don't support the actions of the soldiers but at least the prisoners are alive and well - these prisoners made it back to their families in time for dinner........if it was the other way around...the only pics of israeli soldiers we would get is of them being beaten and put to death........
The dignity and humanity of Jewish people in Israel must be questioned by all people everywhere.
Isn't that a war crime?
I see nothing like a 'war crime' in the photo. The only thing I see is a kid making a fool out of herself.
It is what we don't see that is more ominous. The IDF has never welcomed phootography when they are dealing with Palestinians. You may recall about nine or ten months ago, a Palestinian girl took a video from her home of an IDF officer and another IDF man who shot a rubber bullet into the leg of a blindfolded and bound Palestinian man at close range. The video caused the IDF to open an investigation. The IDF also came by the house of the girl and arrested the father and took him away. This is a message from the IDF. This is how a crime family is run.
horrible girl.
I don't understand how this story merits this amount of attention. She is one soldier doing something stupid - an action that has been disavowed by the IDF. If every stupid action, by every soldier, in every army merited a similar story, the media would inundated by such stories. How many US soldiers took pictures with dead Iraqis? or Russian soldiers, etc....
will love this.....be interesting how they compare this to Abu Ghraib....after all noone is being tortured or abused
To those of you who critisize her for her smile. What di these prisoners do? Murder, Rob, beat some one? if it were me I would be pleased with myself for removing criminals from society. For those who are critical of her. GROW UP there is still a war going on..
I wonder what she would say if she saw german troops posing in front of the concentrate camps, enjoying that as the best time of their lives?
I get so upset when people compare german concentration camps and their ethnic cleansing to detention facilities and the gaza imbargo. Concentration camps were places where jews (and alot of other "undesirable people") were forced to work 15 hour days of backbreaking labor without even the basic amount of food, clothing and medical facilities. If you couldnt work and droped you would be dragged behind a building and shot. your children and the elderly upon arrival would be dragged away from you kicking and screaming and gassed in a room and the bodies desicrated by being burnt in an oven. The situation palestinians PUT THEMSELVES IN through years of suicide bombings and 4 WARS to eradicate the jewish population is like a 5 star resort next to a concentration camp. Noone is putting them into forced labor, noone is shooting there elderly and children. They have freedom in their own territory and all the food and supplies they need except for construction materiels. They do not have contruction materials becuase THEY HAVE PROVED in the past if given acess to these thing they would make weapons and continue trying to kill Israelis. Why not Ask Jordan why their paalestinians cannot hold citizenshipm or work certain jobs or live in certain places, ask lebanon and syria why they force their countries palestinians to live in filthy refugee camps for 50 years why they cannot hold public office or vote or hold any position with the goverment. They cannot even be doctors and lawyers. My church in New Mexico has a charity program that we all give alot of money to to help jews scattered around the world return to israel or come here to america to rebuild there culture that was almost wiped out in Europe. they come here with no education and no money and build themselves in a few years to doctors lawyers and sucessful business owners. They help our community be more wealthy and prosperous. We know it is our christian Duty to help our jewish brothers and we must all work together to make sure israel is strong for the next 200 years. Maybe if the palestinians would elect more leaders like abbas and less radicals like hamas we would already have an independent peaceful palestine
HOW CAN THE PALESTINIANS CONTINUE PEACE TALKS IN GOOD FAITH WHEN A SINGLE SOLDIER IS NOT STOPPED. IDF OR ISRAEL CAN STOP THIS INSTANTLY. IT CAN ALSO GET A COURT ORDER AND OBTAIN AN INJUNCTION FROM THE SUPREME COURT IF THERE WAS WILLINGNESS TO DO SO. THEN THEY BLAME ISLAM AND CALL THEM TERRORISTS WHEN THESE PEOPLE RETALIATE. HOW SICK THE STATE OF ISRAEL IS.
This is the filth we Palestinians deal with on a daily basis!
i once witnessed my grandfather being slapped hard on the face by a soldier who was not more than 20 Yrs old. and my grandfather was 69! that is something i will never forgive, nor forget!
This is what power brings out in some people. Place vulnerable people in a position of pretty absolute power over those whom they think The Other, The Enemy or inferior, and this is what you get.
Does this moron realise that while so many of us are acting as ambassadors for Israel on websites, blogs and talkbacks around the world it only takes one act of such stupidity to wreck it all?
The comparisons to Abu Ghraib are baseless, as is any alignment between the action of this soldier with that of the Israeli people and the majority of IDF personnel. Charges should be brought on the soldier regardless of when she was discharge. If we are to be the most moral army in the world, we sure better start acting like one. A lesson must be taught here. Her actions are a disgrace to the uniform she wears and the protocols of Ruach Tzahal.
she's talking to him leaning right next to him and facing him. No gun (nylon 'handcuff' strip only) and so close she feels shes' not in danger, and he can't help but perceive she is therefore not threatened and he's not threatening nor threatened as his legs are not crossed defensively as her's are. He's the same prisoner on the far left as in the 2d photo. The captions are subject to misinterpretation, but the photos of body language tell a positive story. She's doing her military duty with a positive attitude, the prisoner's are being addressed as people. Note the two on the right have hands in front - not a threat like the with hands in back she sits next to. You must read the photo and body language carefully, not just the 'wiseguy' afterthought caption.
not have any human decency =-- are you in fact a medical doctor?
How many arabs in the Israeli Gulag !
Its not like they're in compromising positions (like Abu Gharib). I think you're allowed to blindfold people and handcuff them. sooo....
I do not find this surprising at all. What did you think would happen would you force 18 year olds to join the army, fight in a war, and give them power? It has nothing to do with their political positions, but rather their maturity level. They are not old enough not to abuse their power. Either raise the age of conscription, or get rid of it completely.
see this same picture every day.
No surprise here. It reminds me of the US soldiers enjoying the torture of prisoners in Abu Ghraib. I guess Israel must want to follow in the same footsteps as it's big brother.
"Mmm", well the prisoners don't look as though they are badly treated, is there something mentally wrong with the girl?, I think the only mistreatment of the prisoners is by the girl photographing them, and maybe the authorities should hand them her details, so they can sue her. Maybe in future this all should come under the secrecy act (if you have one?), then you can give her a automatic 15 year sentence, (perhaps that should focus the mind)?. But please, show the stupid bitches photograph, then maybe Hamas will solve the problem all round.
Is anyone surprised by such photos?? It is what I would expect - from an Army which fails in battle against another arny (Hezbollah) but is victorious in the battle against civilians (Gazas) and peace activists (Gaza-Flotilla).
Purporting loud and clear to be a civilized country eh? Lower the volume.
The behavior of the soldier isnt different to average behavios of the Israeli Society ...then Why are you surprised? for sure the reality is more dangerous for the Arab living in the occupied land of Palestine
“…the IDF has announced new strict rules for soldiers, forbidding them to post photos from military operations and bases”. Better, surely, to institute rules not to treat prisoners that way.
Wondering why Haaretz protects this person's identity - uncensored pics & her full name are all over the internet. On her facebook page she seems fascinated by whether the prisoners are "erect" - such a lovely Jewish girl - her parents must be so proud.
This is the irresistible, even triumphalst progress of barbarity at this beginning of the Third Millenium. More than once, I have been taunted, by Americans and other Westerners piqued by my obviously sincere but peaceful and enlightened criticism of warmongering Western imperialist-minded nations but also of Al Qaeda and of hard-line Taliban, why don't I do what Rachel Corrie tried to do. And when I am alone, I sometimes feel like hitting my head against a wall asking myself why don't I have the courage to try what Rachel tried to do. I feel ashamed, terribly ashamed of myself.
...when Jews were humiliated the same way, even worse. Muslims need to learn-what goes around comes around. I don't care if any of you are offended. If you don't like it, don't look.
or with your views millions of more people would have been exterminated. Why don't vermin crawl back under the rock they came from.
Muslims were responsible for the Holocaust ?? That's new to me , you learn something new everyday.
that really shows how stupid you are and it shows that you really know history go learn some history first
the "former female soldier" is just a stupid ....
Wonder where the Dog leash pictures are?
The Dog leash pictures are coming, this is just the tip of the 'iceberg'. We've seen the video of female soldiers in the Israeli army >> they were all (5x) deranged, even after they had left the army. These un-people will think it funny to spread these kind of pictures around. Palestinians 'handle' themselves better > RESPECT !!
not very nice. your countrymen are ashamed.
Once I found pictures posted by Magav of an disabled palestinian trying to escape from gas grenade, they laughed pages on him.
are not executing them like they would in iran, or syria or iraq or afghanistan. or at least they didn't cut their noses and ears off like the Taliban did to that 18 year old woman on the cover of TIME magazine.
is that as long as Israel is not the worst most awful tyranny on earth, then that is Ok! and can be done freely by happy smiley Israelis! just goes to show that you and the ones you defend are really very similar to the Taliban and their friends. You all are 10 Hairs away from being Baboons!
They picked up these bad habits from Uncle Sam's 'Abu Greib'. But here only on a very tiny scale,nothing like the Americans,or British in Irk,Afghanistan.& of course Not like the Saudis,chopping hands or Iranians Hanging & stoning people.
Sweden, Norway, NewZealand, Netherlands, Canada..... etc either! you know... the REAL civilised world! not savages with technology like Israel and America, nor like Savages without technology, like the Taliban Either!
Getting busy as usual, what a surprise...
Blur her photo?
This is disgusting. My 3rd son is not in the IDF, his 2 brothers have recently completed their elite combat unit duty. While they would not behave in such a demeaning fashion, I truly believe that the IDF has to enforce a no photographing rule, even to the point of setting up some kind of "force field" that would prevent the operation of cameras.
Just when you think that Israel and her children can't stoop any lower, along comes this.
I stand behind the people of Israel and the land of Israel. This sort of callous disregard for the humanity of another is appalling. I know that Israel is providing aid to Palestinians as well, and this is a not a fair representation of Israel. There is no joy in human suffering - even if you are in the right. This picture betrays a cold and unredeemed heart...may Adonai have mercy on this little one...and turn her eyes toward Truth and light.
Anyone with a clear mind can see that Israel and the occupation has turned into a monster. This monster needs its head cut off or it needs to be thrown into a cage with the rest of the animals. They say they are professionals at combating terror? I say they are professionals at creating terrorists. In over 60 years they have done nothing but create terrorists, whether they are Jewish or arab. Irgun wrote the book and everyone else read their pages. These "professionals" have not curbed terror one iota but have fanned the flames and made it worse. Imagine what we have missed in the decades before the internet, before video cameras and cellphones. These are only the things we have caught.
Why did the Palestinians reject the Clinton parameters for peace and launch a massive terror campaign against Israel?
Just ignore everything he said and spout some kind of Hasbara line?
You do know why there are such restrictions on Palestinians, don't you dippy? They launched a massive terror campaign. Were they just supposed to have the freedom to murder as many Jews as possible? Wasn't the refusal of a state of their own and the ensuing terror campaign, "monstrous," in and of itself? That's Hasbara? Anti-Israelis are morons.
You don't like it ? Why you not come over to my place and I'll show you some real Hasbara rope-trick you won't forget ! lovely JohnnyJewBoy, ... if that's your real kosher name ?!
and do it now.
Look at the IDF, boasted by their politicians as MOST MORAL ARMY ON EARTH. my foot!!!!!!! The worst army you'd see in today's world.
with Qur'an recitation in the background...
From that small picture that got classified nothing much is showing except people sitting in the background and it is not easy to round them up. Maybe she was proud...and who cares anyways ..maybe we should see her face ......worse comes to worse she will get arrested no big deal.
Remeber: Do not do to your neighbours what you don't want done to yourself. This foto is a stupid idea from somebody who seems to have been indoctrinated by hate mongers.
... but what is the context? I went down to my police station last week to get a parking sticker from my windshield, and on the bench in the lobby were four teenagers in nylon handcuffs sitting on a bench waiting to be interviewed for something. Like the men is this photo, the boys had no blood or other indication of rough treatment. Wouldn't it be nice if we had a world that required no police or armies?
Disgusting, immoral, and unjust.
palestinians my behind, no such thing. its called the british destroying jerusalem and renaming it palistine. history is a great thing that will never be erased. read a book
This soldier should be court martialed. The IDF likes to brag that it is the most moral army in the world. Now is the time to show the world how it handles disgusting behaviour. This is either unacceptable or it is not. There will never be peace as long as BOTH sides devalue the other. The sad thing is that there are many people in the right wing in Israel who have no problem with this disgraceful behaviour. How can you ever expect a future of peace for the region when your soldiers behave this way????
She should be in criminal court.
Ditto for the 11,000 Palestinians you're holding in those hell holes you call jails.
You mean, the Palestinians didn't launch a massive wave of terrorism against Israelis? They're all a bunch of innocent hostages?
The worst the girl did was exhibit incredible stupidity. I see no abuse or humiliation the prisoners, just a kid acting like a fool.
They should be stressing the things it's not appropriate to reveal. They should be stressing what evidence to hide. It's not her fault - she's just another outstanding ex-IDF member. They didn't teach her she shouldn't brag about what she did to Arabs - that's their fault.
Israel has demanded that arabs remove hatred notes from their books,,it is clear that Israel must change theirs...
This little monster needs a psychiatrist.
Oooh, poor, poor baby... How exactly do you think the Palestinians feel, huh? Don't you think that they want the same things as you heroine princess?
Any question regarding her identity would obviously reflect on the schooling she received and perhaps even on her upbringing by her parents. Unfortunately, where she is going with her little bag of stupidity is just as important. More importantly still, what slice of the Israeli ethos does she represent?
Watching all that get undermined by a facebook posting = priceless. Hard to control the images, when the internet is all about allowing everyone to see what everyone else puts out there.
She or he might be her best friend as well...
While I do not know the circumstances behind the arrest of the Palestinians pictured, the Israeli military should reign in on such acts by IDF personnel. The specific picture was under a Album labeled "IDF-Best time of my life". While my service in the IDF was the best time of my life too, I find it tasteless and a bit shameful for such a pictured moment to be labeled as such.
And you offend women the world over by calling this psychopath a lady.
Shouldn't it be telling that Israelis now treat Arabs with the same wanton disregard, generalization and objectification that Jews faced in Europe for centuries? Where does this savagery end?
Comparing showing pictures to slaughtering millions of people just shows how far from reality you and the left are.
Complaining about the left while you yourself don't have a firm grip on reality, says volumes of the ones that are always calling others left. Try some new tactics, diversion no longer works
The real story is that Israelis dont care about the content of these photos or the sad reality their government is creating. Makes one wonder how far they would really go if the outside world was not watching !!!!!!!!!!
Its like the world doesn't know whats happening in Palestine. This is a common scene that is often seen on checkpoints (positing the photos on Facebook is something new though). For Palestinians, this is a common practice by IDF. And this is one point. The second point, apart from positing the photos on Facebook in this proud inhuman way, do you think that arresting people in such way is appropriate? I hope not! A third point can also be made here: what happens now with the solider? They would claim she's sick and psycho and she has been discharged and she only represents herself. Well, perhaps not all IDF soldier post their "best times" on Facebook, but no one in Israel can argue that this is whats really happening by their soldier against civilians trying to reach their work or universities. You all should be ashamed of yourselves and stand strongly in front of your occupational governments.!!!
Anyone still has any doubt that this army is as much of a rubble than any other in the Middle East?
They think the acts of one soldier who will be reprimanded by the army are the acts of the army itself.
At least the soldiers did not stone the prisoners to death, as the Taliban just did, or throw them off buildings, as Hamas does.
But your now comparing the IDF to the Taliban and Hamas which is not the way its meant to be.....
The difference is that those animals you mentioned, are fanatics and murderers, they humiliate and killed their oppeonents or disidents. But in this photo (similar to the infamous photos in Iraq) a member of the MOST MORAL ARMY IN THE WORLD humiliate their prisioners. You looks the kind of people who consider that jews can do no wrong.
No they just torture them - sometimes to the point of permanent invalidity.
Hamas and the Taliban ENDORSE the type of behavior and there are no consequences for it. The IDF will act against this person and have already condemned the actions. Anti-Israelis are morons.
check, why does this and all israeli news agencies feed the flames of arabs and antisemites with this kind of GARBAGE. These IDF soldiers are probably under more stress than any other military in the WORLD, please cut these young men and women some slack. Until the arab/bedouins change their M.O. then these situations are nothing more than pressure/stress comming into the light. May The Lord Bless and Keep ALL IDF protected and in GREAT health !!!
Regardless of any stress she suffered from being in the army, in the picture she is delighting in the suffering of other human beings. We can cut them some slack, but not that.
Not very surprising behaviour given that the majority of the Israeli's orgins are from the middle east. Europeans would never behave like this.
europeans never behave like this, they just exterminate other nations.
or did your memory fail you
er, US is not Europe or vice versa.....
er, US is not Europe or vice versa.....btw, not surprised after my last visit to Israel (two weeks ago). The prevailing mentality in Tel Aviv is clearly closer to the middle eastern one than the European or even American.....
trutht hurts my fellow jewish (arabic) brother :D
First of all this doesn't reflect on all Israelis. I'm sure there are (many) more similar examples, but not all IDF soldiers behave in this way. There are "bad apples" in every society, do you for example think that a sadistic murder committed by a European is a "European behaviour"? And your notion that Europeans wouldn't behave in this way is silly. I would be willing to bet a great deal that if it was Europeans who were occupying Palestine there would be similar events. If you're interested you could look into the psychological experiment "the third wave" and similar studies. BTW just as a little reminder: Europeans behaved much worse than this in WW2.
VERY FUUNNNYYY european!! can i know wher world war 1 and 2 took place??? who were the idiots colonising all the countries making them slaves??? Not europeans, RIGHT??? Really, are you from martian europe or somin???
unless they were Romani, Gypsies.
here comes the WW2 again....when everyone have moved on some just have to live in the past...no wonder the conflict continues....
obviously it relates to civilized Europe, i.e. Western Europe.
Europeans are not better than any other people. That kind of supremacism belongs in the first half of the 20th century.
Israel indeed has the most moral army in the world. By the way, this is an epidemic and many indecencies are not reported. Just imagine the hysteria if Shalit was treated that way.
Better a smile in a picture then a picture of a soldier beating a prisoner
Because they believe they are superior to other nations, they believe they are the chosen nation by the god, their religion tells it so. For this reason they believe that the non-Jew human beings do not deserve any respect.
Please show me a book where it say's that " non-Jew human beings do not deserve any respect. " On the other hands i can quote Quaran for hours with all it's intollerance, violence, desitfullness and superiority. And what does your morronic statements has to do with the issue here?
#17 Let's hope so .......
one wonders what the army means by ugly and callous, these abusive photos or the abusive treatment of the palestinians
Things like this all remind me of the movie Pianist... this is just horrible. The Jewish people are not like this! I know it as I have a few Jewish friends. The Israeli state must do something about all this horrible treatment, not encourage it! As for this so called soldier (soldiers have honour so I can't really call this creature a soldier), I hope she is treated by divine justice.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/idf-soldier-shoots-bound-palestinian-at-short-range-1.250079
Don't you just love it when jews go on about they're God's chosen? Laughable.
You INSULT us yet you DEFINE yourself by our name for you
But you're simply not God's chosen people. Nobody is . Start see yourself as equal as other people. period. Btw, I'm a girl , is there an other word for goyish girl?
You don't understand the meaning of the term " chosen people" that appears in the Bible. "Chosen people isnt analagous to the choicest piece" of meat , or G-ds favorite people or any other distortion of the term. It simply means that Israel was chosen to perform the commandments, and that's it. If you have read one word of the bible ( unlikely, as its unlikely you read much of anything) you would see that again and again G-d tells Israel there is nothing special about them per se, but that he chose them for the sake of their forefathers to perform the commandments. Any Jew who considers himself anything more than an equal to the rest of humanity is distorting the message of Judaism. And any goy who doesnt understand that simple point is also guilty of ignorance. The lesson for you, Goy, is- turn off your Ipod, close Facebook, and read a book, any book.
Personally I'd rather be a dhimmi than a Goy I'd have more rights. You are right though Netanyahu's government preaches the supremacist aspect of being a Jew as a way of blaming all and sundry apart from themselves for when shit happens. The same here you can imagine the apologists brains grinding away trying to make up excuses for this Jewess who in reality is no different to any other silly little girl who behaves, without any thought for the consequences
The ironic part is that they need only to tell the truth to be considered an enemy by Israel.
...one could arguably say that "Israel's worst enemies" ALSO include the folks who pull tasteless, indefensible stunts like this--as well as those who find them "neat."
As always.
This immature, almost criminal behaviour reflects enormously on the international image of Israel. Something has to be done to heighten basic education standards in Israel.
What a shame.
shows the IDF in a bad light and we jews need as much good press as we can get.
Don't we know how much the media loves to play and leverage on such things against Israel ? I understand the frustration against the Hama, but even if you love your country - this does not help anyone... especially not Israel ! Think!
Ye , let them do anything they want , provided no one knows.
So you don't have a problem with what this former soldier does, only with the fact that she tells the world what she does? It is fine as long as nobody hears about it?
Kids have neat new toys that they can use but do not comprehend. If the photograph was taken on a cell phone or smart phone, there will be data encrypted in the photo called a 'geostamp' which gives the place and time the photo was taken. Kids upload stuff to Facebook every day that pinpoints their homes and sometimes documents crimes sufficient to allow prosecution. I doubt if she thought for a minute before acting. Let this fool create a 'learning moment.' What you upload to Facebook is immediately beyond your control.
...suspects in acts of terror or support to terrorists are caught and kept in the way the pictures show but without any being humiliated or tortured. Thus, both legally and ethically, Israel continues to protect its sovereignty and the lives of its citizens while not harming or humiliating the people caught for questioning.
Everything u said is a lie...power corrupts and i'm sure this happens a lot more often than ud like to believe
I agree, it was done in bad taste, by a very young woman who is NOT a professional soldier as the overwhelming majority soldiers in the Israel Defense Forces (IDF). Trying by the poster to describe this case as a wide spread phenomenon, note "I'm sure this happens a lot more often..." without providing any evidence to support his assertion, just because the subject is Israel, the nation-state of the Jewish people, and the military force that is there to protect it, makes one wonder, what is the motive behind the accusation...??
You assume that these people are "suspects in acts of terror". They were people who were stopped at a checkpoint! Do you think that Eden would be so glib if they were real, dangerous terrorists? You have taken to defending Israeli actions, even if indefensible, in a ROBOT-LIKE way ! I was in Qatzrin 3 years ago on honeymoon. I WANT to love and support Israel. But I respect my own intelligence and humanity. Lying about this is disgusting and degrading to your own humanity, and lowers your image in the eyes of the world.
"Thus, both legally and ethically, Israel continues to protect its sovereignty and the lives of its citizens while not harming or humiliating the people caught for questioning." You have got to be kidding me Jehudah..every fact tells the opposite of your statement. The IDF represents Israel, just because she is no longer a soldier does not mean she did not represent Israel and the IDF at the time. You are delusional and irresponsible in your comments...with great power comes great responsibility...instead of defend...apologize on behalf of your country men who continue to disgrace the face of the Jewish people.
Turns the stomach to look at this. Not doing her brethren still serving in the IDF any favours.
That is funny.
lets see if u gonna be lol now the other said now talking about posting pics and videos of the 2 solgaies
I notice that Haaretz has been careful to censor the face of the woman. Given the fact that she put her picture up on Facebook for the entire world to see, it is a quaint, quixotic even, gesture. I wonder if the photo was taken with a cell phone. The geostamp information in such photos can reveal exactly where and when it was taken. Earth to kids, come in kids, do you have a clue what you are doing when you post photos to Facebook?
her pic is all over the internet what a pic she is fat and ugly
they are horrified by the pictures but not by the facts! Inhumanity is the rule at checkpoints. Occupation has this ugly face.