Alleged Jewish terrorist: Tape proves Shin Bet tried to coerce me to commit murder
In newly released recordings, alleged Shin Bet agent can be heard urging Chaim Pearlman to assassinate Sheik Ra'ad Salah.
By Chaim Levinson Tags: Israel news Raed SalahNew recordings released Thursday claim to prove that Chaim Pearlman, a right-wing Israeli extremist arrested Tuesday over the murder of four Palestinians, was encouraged by an alleged Shin Bet agent to commit violent acts, including the assassination of Sheik Ra'ad Salah, the head of the Islamic Movement in Israel.
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Chaim Pearlman in court Wednesday. |
Chaim Pearlman was arrested earlier this week, initially on suspicion of carrying out two murders in 1998, and for a series of attacks against other Palestinian victims over the last 12 years. The Petah Tikva Magistrates' Court on Thursday extended his remand by six days.
According to Pearlman, he was contacted by a person who allegedly worked for the Shin Bet security service while disseminating fliers for the extreme right-wing Kach movement. Pearlman maintains that the person had tried to convince him to get involved in violent acts.
Pearlman recorded all his conversations with the man and says he has 20 hours of recordings.
The Shin Bet denied Thursday claims it tried to coerce Pearlman into carrying out attacks against Arabs, saying the exchanges recorded in the tapes released earlier Thursday represented a legitimate method of extracting a confession from a suspect.
In his conversation with the person Pearlman claimed was a Shin Bet agent, Pearlman can be heard supporting non-violent, educational activities, with the alleged agent apparently incites him to violence.
In the recordings released Thursday, the alleged agent can be heard saying that only an "extreme move" could change public opinion, citing the assassination of Sheik Ra'ad Salah as one such extreme move.
"I could do it," the agent can be heard saying, referring to the proposed killing of the Islamic Movement leader, saying that Salah's security would prevent him from succeeding, adding that if he were Pearlman he would commit the assassination.
"It's not about hitting him [Salah] and getting in trouble. It's about coming over, hitting him, and see you later, like that guy in Bar Noar" the alleged Shin Bet agent can be heard saying, referring to the killing of a counselor and a teenager at a Tel Aviv gay center last year.
The agent continues to explain how he would carry out Salah's assassination, saying Pearlman would have to "use another person for that," adding that if he himself had grown up where Pearlman had grown up, "I wouldn't be spray painting slogans."
"You don't really want to do it," Pearlman can be heard as saying, with the alleged Shin Bet agent replying: "Says who? Says you? What are you relying on? Can you check me? Come check me, I'm ready."
When Pearlman asked if the alleged Shin Bet agent understood the ramifications of such an act, and if he would be willing to take responsibility for it, the agent said: "sure, why not."
"How long will the noise continue? Will it lead to war? Won't there be war without it happening?" the agent can be heard asking, adding that "war has casualties."
"Listen I don't have a problem [inaudible] someone who takes a life once and gets that feeling…. I would never do it to a Jew. It would be hard," the alleged Shin Bet agent said, adding, "but I wouldn't have a problem with one of those."
After again discussing the risks such an action would entail, Pearlman can be heard asking if the alleged agent even knew where Salah lived, with the agent answering: "somewhere in the North, in one of the villages in the North.
"Look, it shouldn't be much of a problem. The car passes. You shoot a burst. Chances are the driver will get killed," the agent added, saying that Pearlman would have to either "finish him with one burst, or a few split ones."
The alleged agent continues his description of the potential assassination, saying that it would not be the kind of operation where one would "come in close."
"You need to be as far away as you can in this kind of situation. Or put a bomb in the car. That's the classic one. Nothing's left, everything goes everywhere," the agent added, saying Salah would then "go to all hell."
Throughout the recordings Pearlman can be heard rejecting the alleged agent's call for violence, and instead supporting educational and spiritual activity.
At one point Pearlman can be heard saying that he was "a youth counselor, I organized rallies. I organized a rally in front of a store that sold pork." The alleged Shin Bet agent subsequently asks Pearlman "and where did that get you?"
When Pearlman answers that he wanted to raise awareness to the fact that the store had been selling pork, the alleged agent asks if it wouldn't have been "simpler to throw a fire bomb - people would get the message."
"If you throw a fire bomb twice, the insurance [companies] won't insure him anymore," the alleged Shin Bet agent can be heard saying.
When Pearlman apparently rejects the idea of physically attacking the shop, saying that such a course of action could not be sustained, since he would eventually be caught, the person he claims is a Shin Bet agent can be head saying: "you throw once, you throw twice, and the insurance won't insure. No one will open there."
"That could mean prison for several years. I'm talking about spreading ideas," Pearlman can be heard saying, adding that he was after "the long run, not a one time thing."
To that the alleged agent answers "sometimes the one-time thing affects the long-run," adding "let's do something you and me. Let's do something," to which Pearlman replies that he is more interested in family.
The recordings continue to document the discussion between the two, in which Pearlman insists on the value of educational action, with the alleged Shin Bet agent dismissing that approach.
The agent can then be heard suggesting that Pearlman take the same people he had been working with distributing fliers and "sit on a nice village and organize a fireworks show," referring to an armed assault on an Arab village.
"The Shin Bet is everywhere," Pearlman can be heard answering, adding that "every second or third person is connected."
"They keep taking people in to give them warnings. Arrest them for nothing, take people and frighten them," Pearlman says, adding that the Shin Bet were conducting arrests and were "listening to every call."
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If his answers outlined here are consistent with what's known about him by law enforcement agencies, then yes - it may lend credence to his possible innocence. But if it's NOT - which appears to be the case based on the details of his extremist history outlined in an earlier article - then his answers instead suggest that he had either been warned of the agent's motives ahead of time, or was independently leery of what they might be. But the fact that he had the foresight to record the conversations tends to suggest that he already knew.
Israeli secret services convince fanatical nutjobs to do their dirty work, and then take the blame. Very neat, moral and democratic.
It looks like Israel is bending over backwards to find a Jewish terrorist even to the point of trying create one. Free Chaim Pearlman !!!
... also whether the so-called shin-betnik is genuine, or is himself fabricating... we must wait and see...
But what we don't know is why he has been thrown to the wolves now.
Fortress Israel will never be shattered by the fire of bombs and missiles, it will rot from within.
should resign immediately , they shame all of us !
Not in Haaretz unless it is regarding an Arab terrorist.
Imagine a Shin Bet Agent, which are highly trained mind you, in fact far better than the FBI or other Federal Agencies allowing himself to be taped. Ok, now, this is not a matter for the Military Censor, so get off my back, let me say a few things. One, in order never to be taped or recorded, all agents have a pen like device that emits a sound similar to whiteneing, that is, a sound is emitted that causes a heavy static which does not allow for recording. Its only audible to a recording device. Two, the conversations as reported, where not in any way related to the normal behaviour of a law enforcement officer. Three, the alleged officer was a plant, a flag changer from the same right wing group. This must be a clear case of revenge, for Shin Bet has declared war on these criminals. I rest my case. Good night from sweet Swiss Alps.
...whether the tape is fabricated... whether the shin-betnik himself is genuine ... something very fishy here... nobody is being just "sloppy"...
In the Bronx earlier this year, the FBI foiled a plot to bomb 2 shuls by pretending to be bomb suppliers and then aiding the alleged terrorists to carry out their attack. then the terrorist were busted when they attempted to blow up the shuls with fake bombs...from the FBI
...was for real, or whether this is a very polished performance by extreme rightists...
Good read. But nothing surprising.
I realize you are all enjoying big time. How many of you have already listened to the recording and read a specialist's conclusion regarding its authenticity.
for all the people who think that the shin bet was actually inciting him to commit violence, you're idiots. they're trying to make him talk about violence he committed against arabs so they can arrest him, and protect arab citizens of israel. my case in point, he's been arrested for attacking arabs...
I admit that Pearlman looks quite likeable, I wouldn't mind if friends of mine looked like him. There probably are aspects in which I also can be seen as religiously conservative. For example, I've been in favour of a weekly day without commercial activity, and if it just was out of respect for employees: a day where it is forbidden to exploit manpower. In general I still don't go shopping after 8 p.m. But I've become inconsequent on sundays: The temptation to buy a piece of cake on sunday is considerable. Besides, yes, I also admit, that this idea of plunging into the glorious days of military zionism, may appear quite sexy (although I'm not even Jewish): to breathe the freedom of being oneself, not having to compromise, to conquer a place of one's own, maybe even to live one's lust to fight. But this is not our purpose of being on earth. Because the desire to destroy is a common human desire, as implied in Freud's death drive; choosing another people as object to satisfy this desire is just a vain and hideous way of guiding ones drives. Because, if it was, it would be the anchoring of eternal war. The lust to fight and kill may be what some people are living for, but hopefully not the majority. Because if it was, with the possibilities of new weaponry, humanity would soon be finished. How sad if Pearlman didn't resist Satan when he was whispering to him...
Maybe he voted for the Labor party.
An unidentified voice does not a shin bet make. Where's the second witness?
but if this guy actually murdered all those people, he needs to be in jail for the rest of his life. Amidst all the flak, remember the shin bet is the organization that caught this sicko.
This incident depicts to the world the TERRORISM OF A STATE which is far more serious than an individual terrorist attacks based on false beliefs. Now the world turned into a small village and all the world come to recognize the ugly face of israel. Despite of that we will still hear from israeli the terms islamic terrorism and islam that perpetuate terrorism. I wonder when israeli will be able to face the ugly reality of their doing and stop once and for all shedding the tears of the crocodiles and stop abusing the world with the concentration camps as they are commiting the worst as individuals and a state!
Every country has its crooks Rona. Where do you hear about them? On the disney channel? No, you hear about it at that country's respective media. The bottom line is that you are making a sweeping generalization about a public that bears only the guilt of ignorance, which is a trait found in MOST nations. Israel's face is not uglier than everyone's state, i promise you that. How would you like it if someone said AMERICA'S UGLY FACE like that just because you idiots elected George Bush twice? I know some smart Americans. See why that's not fair? Haaretz probably wont even publish this, but at least THEY saw it!
Inciting its citizens to kill it minority?? That why they do nothing to prevent the killing of Arabs and when the act is committed, does nothing to catch the culprites. Its a shame
The CIA special ops destablized Chile and got Allende bumped off, didn't they. Indeed, there were other political leaders, and governments that got special treatment by special ops. Inside the the USA, there are tons of conspiracy stories regarding leading Senators and others whose positions were too liberal. All of a sudden there were these "accidents". A rouge state?! Governments do it all the time, even the most democratic states, does that make them rogue states, too?
The ShinBet is looking for the extremists, like those who killer Rabin, the only way find them an trap one is to push him to do something along their assumed philosophy. The ShinBet are the good guys in this case, trying to catch bad guys by enticing (not a nice thing to do)
Says nothing at all about true Jews.
Will the Left ever learn?
and that he was set to work with right wing groups seems to be the wrong type for that job. so you might be right, but it is not the fault of the left wing. rather it is the fault of authoritarian militants as usual.
It appears that Shin Bet has been butt bopped by someone they knew was committing crimes against Arabs. Deception is a valid technique in warfare Dude, but it is a double-edged sword which can cut both ways if practiced in a careless or incompetent fashion. Letting a serial killer do his thing - even if he is killing the right people in your view - and then trying to use that license to turn him into an assassin as well as a serial killer is not 'deception.' It is idiocy.
It's surreal on the other side. Welcome to wonderland Israel. This is your new reality.
Shin Bet and Mossad are faces of a country killer. and always claiming self-defense or threat to their existence. Do you not think there is an excess? ps. It is the first time I see the term Jewish terrorist in the press!
Another brainwashed Israeli joins the ranks. Let him and his best mate from Shin Bet spend the rest of their lives in prison listening over and over to 20 hours of tape recordings. The fact remains that Palestinians were murdered. These Israeli terrorists deserve all they get. Mmmm, probably a light sentence to be decided over the next few years.
Yeah right! The news here is not a right wing nut killed a few Arabs but the entire state sanctions such killings as business as usual by it's own institutions. Whoever was surprised to learn this - tape or no tape - has either come from Mars or has lived with their head in the sand for decades. This individual should be released and government officials up to PM should be arrested if there is any justice.
In this case it certainly isn't the Palestinians. I'm sure that some of you will find justification for all this, but try opening your eyes for once.
I don't think you will find any jews dancing about this, or even being happy at the least
You wouldn't swallow every bit of anti-Israeli crap that you read and think it was a gourmet steak.
Since you asked, those who launch, carry out, support, or glorify the deliberate targeting of babies in Pizzerias, and call the people who choose to do this sanctified martyrs, for example, the PA, and Abbas.