Nasrallah praises Winograd report; Siniora: No mention of destruction in Lebanon
Hezbollah leader says report settled any debate of who emerged victor from the 34-day war last summer.
By News Agencies and Haaretz ServiceHezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah on Wednesday praised the Winograd report for its description of Israel's failures during the Second Lebanon War, but the Lebanese government criticized the findings, saying the report did not address the massive destruction caused by Israel to his country.
"I will not gloat," Nasrallah told an audience at the opening of a book fair in a south Beirut neighborhood complex, rebuilt after being leveled by Israel Air Force warplanes during the summer fighting.
"It is worthy of respect that an investigative commission appointed by [Prime Minister Ehud] Olmert condemns him," Nasrallah said. "When the enemy entity acts honestly and sincerely, you cannot but respect it."
"Even though they're our enemies, it is worthy of respect that the political forces and the Israeli public act quickly to save their state, entity, army and their existence in the crisis," he added.
"Today the climate in the whole of the Zionist entity is that this war was a failure," he said.
The guerilla leader also said the committee of inquiry had vindicated his claim that Israel had been defeated.
"The first important outcome of this commission is that it has finally and officially decided the issue of victory and defeat... This commission spoke about a very big defeat," Nasrallah said.
The report said Olmert bore ultimate responsibility for the failures of the 34-day war, accusing him of poor judgment, hasty decision-making and lack of vision, fueling calls from within his own Kadima party for him to resign.
Nasrallah also lamented the divisions within the Arab world and Lebanon, where Hezbollah is in a power struggle with the U.S.-backed government of Prime Minister Fuad Siniora.
Siniora, meanwhile, called on the deeply divided Lebanon to unite. He warned that Israel could be planning future attacks to restore its credibility.
"I call on my Lebanese brothers to unite in the face of what Israel might be seeking to launch against Lebanon," Siniora said.
He criticized the Winograd report for failing to address the destruction, estimated at more than $5 billion caused by the IDF air and naval bombardment as well as the ground incursion during the war.
"The report on the unjust war... did not make a single mention of the massive material, human losses and destruction Israel inflicted on Lebanon," Siniora said.
Hezbollah has come under criticism from some Arab governments early on in the fighting for triggering the war by kidnapping two Israel Defense Forces soldiers in a July 12 cross-border raid.
"It is regrettable that we, the Arab world, and Lebanon are waiting for an Israeli commission to settle for us this dispute and to tell us, 'seriously, you have won and we [Israelis] were defeated,'" Nasrallah said.
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Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah speaking in Beirut on Wednesday. (Reuters) |
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Heavyweight not stopping at the 12th round this time...going for the knock-out!!!
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If Hezbollah "wins" any more "great victories" like the last one, Nasrallah will be reviewing most of his troops/terrorists in Lebanese graveyards.
Nick, the Arab world is not blind. Everyone acknowledges that Israel exists. You can not wage war on entities that you don't recognize, politically it would be like shooting bullets at air. They know who and what Israel is. Israel's call for them to recognize their right of existence is another point entirely. It is one thing to say that a country exists. It is another thing to say the country has a legal right to exist. Nasrallah himself called Israel their enemy. He is not praising Israel because of their political statement with the war report, he is praising Israel because the report allows for the argument that he won the war. He never says Israel has the right to exist. If he did, he would want peace with them, not rearming on the northern border and defying the United Nations.
There are several points of note in Nasrallah?s statement. The key one I think is when he acknowledges the existence of Israel, and its right to do so. This is what he says: ?Even though they're our enemies, it is worthy of respect that the political forces and the Israeli public act quickly to save their state, entity, army and their existence in the crisis". It couldn?t be clearer. But this is not the first time that an Arab leader has made such statements. As usual Israel will ignore it, because it doesn?t fit its agenda of expansionism.
Nasrallah is a very lucky man today. Lucky that Israel screwed up,that the Lebanese people were begging to stop the war and President Seniora weeping.Over 1000 Lebanese killed and most of Southern Lebanon destroyed.Nasrallah OPEN your eyes and see the misfortune you have brought your people, then talk about who won the war.
Yes he is for sure right all this was done for nothing learn for next time
Nass-Allah did nt won the war but israel with all its war capacity have a big problem to advance some kilometre in the south of Lebanon, and the majority of the dead was civilian and all the destruction in the LEbanon side was bridges and civilian target, so how can Israel initiate a war against the Iranien....or the Syrian If Israel won anything will that Nass_Allah will think 10 times before doing anything against Israel..but in the same time this war has demonstrate that Israel no longer the army that you can never defeat if you have a problem against a small militia, so Israel haave to think 1000 times before attacking Iran , I think it will be a desaster for all the region. I am not a pro-Iranian , but I think this country is becoming a very powerfull state that deserve respect.
First: all Leaderes on your side are over-weight,their people very light weight.Sorry!! Second: Such conflict isn,t basketball game,Israel has shown historically,when goes to the retaliation phase,always received sweet victory for his people.Sorry,that is history,don,t test Israel again,this time will be the last for all those chaotic groups,and their fatty supportes on the east and beyond. Third: don,t talk Diplomacy,because Israel has shown always love real peace,but others intentions don,t like peace,their life is in conflict and war,Malaria flies need special environment-creek.
Dude, do the world a favor don?t write anything from now on, you're ignorant idiot, who think he's making an argument, you don?t seem to use much of your brains, Israel lost twice, they ran a way from Lebanon the first time with their tail between their legs, and now lost again, just admitted, you lost, your such a soar looser, LOOOSER, and if Israel tries to venture off to Lebanon, this time they will loose half of their army
Dudes, do the world a favor and don?t write anything from now on, you guys are ignorant idiots, who think they making an argument, you don?t seem to use much of your brains, Israel lost twice, they ran a way from Lebanon the first time with their tail between their legs, and now lost again, just admitted, you lost, your such a soar looser, LOOOSER, and if Israel tries to venture off to Lebanon, this time they will loose half of their army
Dude, do the world a favor don?t write anything from now on, you're ignorant idiot, who think he's making an argument, you don?t seem to use much of your brains, Israel lost twice, they ran a way from Lebanon the first time with their tail between their legs, and now lost again, just admitted, you lost, your such a soar looser, LOOOSER, and if Israel tries to venture off to Lebanon, this time they will loose half of their army
If Hezbollah means God,s Party,then God is the leader.What are you doing Nasrallah? Do you have any power of attorney? I am sure not,if you have ,show it to your followers. No. God Almighty has a full power to do anything,He no needs Party,and no needs you hassan!!
Israel attacked Lebanon to get back its soldiers (or should we say its dignity) and get ride of Hazbullah as well as per US request. The soldiers aren't back and Hezbullah is even more powerful ;) enjoying the 20 miles :)
To think that the great IDF failed against a bunch of mere terrorists is an amazing turn-around. Goes to show the IDF has grown corrupt and lazy in the brutal occupation business.
To Bad Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah is taking LSD and halusinating his win! Who is smuggling in hid rugs for him?
The war is not a victory for Hezballah in a military sense, but for sure Israel didn?t not accomplished its objectives and left its northern front venerable to future attacks and that?s a defeat.
The only reason for the false perception of "victory" by the hezbollah, or "failure" of the IDF is the way this war is compared to the "six day war". The world and the Arabs expect in fact that the war must be won by Israel in a matter of six days. Any duration longer is a victory for the Arabs. As the great strategist of the kind of Schm..Olmert and Peirets decided to stay on the border all the time for almost 4 weeks without allowing a full offensive and entering Lebanon, even worse recalling the troops from Maroun al Ras and Bint Jbeil, like the Labor goverment during the Yom Kippour war in 1973, wanted Scharon to return immediately but he refused, this hesitation is in the eyes of the Arabs in itself a victory. They are not used to victories.Standing out is already a victory. Their standard of victory is very low. And as ususal in their fantasy they forgot that once Schm..Olmert decided to a full offensive, the IDF reached the LItani in 33 hours, destroying all the Hez.bunkers.
You are right there are no innocents except if you are Jewish, wait not a self hating Jew, a zoinist Jew only.
No mistake, arabs muslims and their kind learned nothing in the past 10.000 years or so. They are great at hallucinating and bullshitting themselves. I wish you many many more victories like that of the hisballah. Yes we have a stupid prime minister, and we had a stupid chief of staff and a stupid defense minister, but that was your lucky day, then. No more of that in the future, build a lot of bomb shelters cause n-ass-rallah is leading you into a total abyss from which you wont be able to climb out. Want peace, welcome, want war, its your choice. Dont tempt us for another round unless you want beautiful Lebanon to cease to be as another country on the face of this earth. Please, use what's between your ears to think. Thank you.
THE SUMMER BATTLE OF 2006 WAS A TREMENDOUS DEFEAT FOR APARTHEID ISRAEL. CLEARLY, THE WHOLE WORLD KNOWS THAT ISRAEL BEGGED AMERICA FOR A CEASE FIRE AT THE U.N. IN THE END, ISRAEL WILL LOSE EVEN MORE WARS BECAUSE IT EXISTS BASED ON A FOUNDATION OF LIES, RACISM, AND CRIMES COMMITED AGAINST HUMANITY. NO WEAPONS IN THE WORLD CAN DEFEAT THE WILL POWER OF PEOPLE FIGHTING FOR THEIR LAND. OCCUPYING ARMIES ALWAYS LOSE IN THE END. IF JEWS WERE SMART, THEY SHOULD TAKE THEIR FAMILIES AND GO BACK TO THEIR CAMPS AND GHETTOS IN EUROPE AND RUSSIA AND RETURN THE LAND BACK TO ITS RIGHTFUL OWNERS, THE GREAT PALESTINIAN PEOPLE! LONG LIVE PALESTINE AND DEATH TO ZIONISM !!!
When there is a fight between a light weight boxer and a heavy weight boxer and that the light weight boxer is still standing after the 12th round, THE VICTORY GOES TO HIM! no matter how many civilians died in lebanon, HEZBOLLAH won! i have a question : what does zionism have to do with judaism, and how does it serve the teachings of judaism if israelis think they can solve their problems by shooting at it or build fences around it, they are mistaken!i think it is time for israeli politicians to learn DIPLOMACY(wich they are inept at) and drop the language of FORCE!NO MILITARY SOLUTION!!!!!!!
Live wherever you want, just LEAVE.
Israel doesnt use human shields? How about the pal children which the IDF loves to strap onto thier vehicles and tanks and use as human shields. I would call that very courages indeed.
what kind of nation during the last 24 hours of fighting and retreating, leaves behind thousands of illegal clusterbombs near schools and populated civillion areas so that they can continue killing civillions long after the war is over, kinda cowardly wouldnt you say? I know I wouldnt be proud to be living in a country that does so. Because thats just trying to murder inocent civillions. Why is killing ok aslong as its not an american or israeli.
what I enjoy seeing is how both USA and Israel comments on these blogs, I love how you cant handle defeat and try and put a spin on it, Maybe if your countries stopped war mongering and actually looked for peace, you wouldnt have to make so many excuses when you loose, and how the other side doesnt fight fair. Mean while you guys have very powerful armies against ragtag armies with no tanks or planes or any other type of high tech equipment, who you gonna blame now? Iran? China? how about looking in the mirror for once.
Shouldn't we get some overtime, like for woundings? They do it in soccer. Email us at salikgames@att.net with your answer.
war 1- hezbollah forced israel to run out of beirut 1983 war- 2 1985 forced israel to run from saidon war -3 1993 israel attacked lebanon and got screwed by hezbollah war-4 1996 wahts called the april war ofcourse screwed again and their was the april agreement which was in favoure of hezbollah ofcourse. war - 5 2000 here the big screw for israel ran a way from lebanon - hezbollah got a big victory. war- 6 2006 big targets for israel huge what been achieved? a- destroy hezbollah--still stronger than before- b- disarm hezbollah ? more armes owns now.. c- hezbollah 270 killed israel 330 killed - 135 tanks destroyed- one chopper destroyed- 2 ships destroyed. most of the cities attacked. on the other side well done destroyed buildings. results. israel government falling down nasrallah rising up the skies . conclussion: 6 wars and won all of them not a deffeat finnaly : expect more to come towards you..
It allows for public self criticism without interference from religious fanatics.Arabs need a massive dose of free market.
Now you have to know how to gain ennemies respect. It is so easy and the leader Nassrullah can teach you those steps to get ur respect and here are the rules: 1-think that israel and america are the best countries in the world including their people (which is wrong theorem) 2-depend on the bush ,saudi,jordan,egypt,and sanyura addminstration in your war. 3-let ur ennemies be HIZBULLAH and IRAN and SYRIA ( WE PROUD TO BE UR ENNEMIES) 4-elect more incompetent leaders ( in usa and in israel like RICE AND OLMERT AND ... THERE ARE A LOT OF STUPID LEADERS IN BOTH COUNTRIES) 5-Loose more wars against Hizbullah. 6-appoint a commission to investigate in the failure of the war. 7-be ready for the countdown for ur land of god as u named ( wrong name cz u dont exist in reallity) 8-SAYED nassrullah will respect then. good luck in ur next flight to lebanon this summer and enjoy the iranian airflight if u think to bomb iran.
How about both sides lost with the population as the third and true big looser, as it mostly the case with war. What did Israel gain? What did Hezbollah gain? What did Lebanon gain?
I wasn't really gone, I just got too busy to post and I would look in periodically and see you and other right minded posters still need hip boots to wade through the BS being slung. Unfortunately, here in the US it is the same thing, one disaster with Dubya after another. Our men and women are dying in Iraq and Dubya and Laura go on American Idol; figure that. Keep on kicking them in the knees. Zionists madness is as raggidy as ours is in the US and they know it and talk about it amongst themselves and then sling BS when somebody else points it out; I guess it is a family thing, but not really given how far the US is out there. Homeward bound soon from Iraq, yessiree, and not a moment too soon. High regards and keep posting. Ballistic.
must have learned from us and I agree with you that they are quite good. For somebody everybody says is 5th centry cave bound folks, they are VERY effective using the internet and every other gadget. Perhaps folks are wrong about their level of intelligence. In fact, most of the leaders are Western educated, including Bin Laden and Zawahiri (sp?), who is a doctor. Regards.
I gave you the answer and so did at least one other poster. That the US supplied Saddam gas when he was fighting Iran is not a secret; it is also not a secret that Israel supported Iran in that war. Go Google it and see for yourself. If you can't stand the heat, stay out the kitchen and don't ask the question. The rest of your post is irrelevant as my post addressed what you asked. Regards.
I'd like to see the Lebanon's report on Nasrallah's responsability in kidnapping the Israeli soldiers, which is the fact that started the whole thing, and let's see if there's any kind of pressure inside Lebanon for Nasrallah to quit and go home.
the war was bound to happen and was planned years ahead we all know that, lets just say the smartest thing hizbollah did was kidnapping the soldiers in order to have leverage or else nothing would have stopped israel from turning our country to dust
we are all with nasrallah because he is a wiser man than any of ure leaders or our leaders will ever be, know ure enemy for he is much much smarter than u are, and we lebanese christians , we represent 70% of the christians and we are all supporting our resistance
..."When the enemy entity acts honestly and sincerely, you cannot but respect it."..." That's a smart suggestion. This man is clearly smarter than OLMERT and Ahmadinejad, much smarter. Watch out SINIORA. Livni will be a rival of a lifetime for him.
hezbollahs to use their country as battleground?they were kicked out again[they were send away by jordan before],weren't they?...iran or syria will drive them out next time.I'm sure your country will welcome them next.why did hezbollahs used women and children as their human shields.these poor civilians should be in hiding ,I bet nazrallah told them to stay in the battleground so that the world would say,"israel is killing civilians".
you got that right.the palestinian arabs have heard lies since they were babies that's why they can only believe lies.[lies that they own israel[while the rightful owners were exiled from their homeland-it doesn't mean that they didn't own it anymore] ;lies about ishmael-he was offered as a sacrifice instead of isaac-how could it be,ishmael and hagar were sent away when isaac was just a toddler.lies about muhammad that he ascended to heaven from the temple mount and had a dream about unknown "place far away";lies about that the "holy bible" is corrupted and the koran is not.
israeli bombs?were they not innocent slavo.maybe,maybe not,but the grown ups,that put them at risk,are sure as hell not innocent.where is your sense of compassion,is negative propaganda against israel,worth the lives of children,northern neighbor.
how did you figure lebanon lost"?look aroud you,dumbass!like i have said over and over,it don't take much for you morons to claim a victory,does it?
there's absolutly no difference between the pals and hesbullah.they are both one and the same,their goals are the same also,the complete destruction of israel.
setting "shalit" free means defeat in his view.
Did'jya know that? Yeah, the IDF must have left rather hurriedly, but we'll always have Sabra and Shatila, right? Yessiree, no more PLO in Lebanon; now THAT's a victory! BTW This "group of freedom fighters" you support seem to be pretty intent on liberating territory that was never Lebanese, like the Shebaa Farms. Ever wonder why that is? Like, maybe they're after more than just Lebanon? Ya know, they killed our Marines, too. Some fine company YOU keep...
Nasrallah was not smart, he was dumb. He moved to quickly to escalate the situation - and suffered tremendous losses, not just to his military arsenal, which was undoubtedly depleted (though currently being replenished), but he also caused his land to suffer - without giving them any serious gains. The only gain he can show the Lebanese is that Israel considers the war a failure, and that it still is in possession of Israeli soldiers. Perhaps Nasrallah is more popular. Perhaps, and this more of a long shot, Israel has also suffered a decrease in global public opinion. Israel did suffer economic losses - but won't that be transient? Maybe Israel already recovered? When we think about the suffering in Lebanon, only some sort of land gains should be grounds for victory. As such Nasrallah - and Lebanon lost - and should give up trying to destroy Israel -- because it's not worth it - you have bigger problems.
While Israel did not get back their two kidnapped soldiers, they kicked the butts of the hez to the tune of 800 dead terrorists and inflicted 5 billion dollars damage and destruction to the infrastructure of Lebanon.The hez has not returned to southern Lebanon, and if they have, the IAF has them in their sights, regardless of the UN presence.Meanwhile, the economy is still in a shambles, the Hez is away from their destroyed bunkers and , if there is going to be a next time, the IDF will not fight with one hand tied behind their backs.
Good to see you back. Cheers and kind regards!
The world was aghast as Israel wantonly demolished infrastructure in Lebanon and killed and maimed hundreds of Lebanese civilians, that was bad enough, but when we read of certain people of influence and standing in Israel complaining that the IDF "had their hands tied," during the war, and Israel's thirst for Lebanese water, Nasrallah's advice of a united Lebanon, should be taken by the people of Lebanon. Was the bombing of Lebanon "back to the stone age, clearing the way for, "the next war?" Remember Israel in Lebanon 1980's - 2000, Khiam Prison and 20 000 dead Lebanese people? Remember also, it has been alleged, Israel created and funded Hezbollah, the protectors of the Lebanese territories!
kidnapping israeli soldiers so that israel would release palestinian criminals in exchange of these kidnapped soldiers.arabs aren't even fair-releasing 1,000 criminals in exchange of one soldier who did not do anything to hurt you and your people.claiming victory!the hezbollahs sending quassams/katsukas or something to open fields in israel.did nazrallah/iran/syria pay lebanon yet for the damage they made? israel couldn't strike the hezbollahs because they're hiding behind these poor women's skirts and toddlers'strollers.clever nazrallah.he's more clever than arafat,isn't he?
you said they won....you're right about that.because no hezbollahs were killed[only lebanese civilians-women and children].how clever they're .they're using other country as their headquarters and other country's civilians as human shields.they will do the same with syria.with these tactics,I bet they will win again[we can't win over you "muslim world".your suicide bombers are everywhere in sheep clothing].
Lebanon should really ask Israel for the payment of war damages. So next time Israel will think twice before destroying everything and killing everybody.
Christians in Lebanon will be happy to read about their "moon god". How can you write such racist biased words ?
Why does the report completely ignore the most important : the destructions of housing and infrastructures, the killings of civilians, the war crimes, the loss to the economy of Lebanon... All this would deserve a thorough investion : all this for nothing ?
Hezbollah has warned the lebanese gov since 2004 that if the opportunity comes to kidnap israeli soldiers to exchange them for lebanese soldiers (who were NOT supposed to be taken to israel when the war ended) the Soldiers were in Lebanese SOIl in AITA SHAAB . check the map you ll understand that it was justified to catch them. Hezbollah wants also to free SHeeba farms. doesnt israel have enough of the israel+westbank+ golan heights ? Siniora is a lame duck , if they have elections TODAY and they have proper Democracy in lebanon , Hassan nasrallah should be the president i have no doubt in my mind who will get the most votes . but in leb , the president is always a christian .
only thing is,they have to sacrafice their women and children to obtain this goal.can you say,human shield?
your lie that,hesbullah,or any other arab,muslim,has any respect for israel?you guys lie so much,you actually start believing the lies yourself.
shit.tell me,ballestic,does your hate include other matters in life ,or do you just hate jews,only?
The IDF did actually achieve its goals by (1)driving the Hez from its warrens near the Israeli border,(2)killing about 800 Hez,(3)bringing in UN member troops to patrol the Lebanese/Israel and Lebanese/Syrian border areas,(4) destroying about 5 billion dollars of Lebanese infrastructure and driving the Lebanse economy into shambles, and (5) destroying the underground bunkers of the Hez.War, unfortunately, brings the tragedy of the deaths of innocent civilians.To the Hez the Israeli civilians are primary targets; to the Israelis,Lebanese civilians are to be avoided if possible.
Bravo . You make so much sense. Yes Olmert helped Nasrallah like never before , now he has the support of ALL Arabs in North Africa , middle east and Muslims in Indonesia and even India and South africa . he is NUmber ONE after the latest Polls .
RESPECT!!! he says "I'm not going to gloat...followed by it has been officially and finally decided, the issue of victory and defeat." That is gloating. And the respect we had with out enemies came because they were SOVEREIGN NATIONS, not TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS funded by nuclear hungry fundamentalists in Iran. Last time I checked, Egypt, Syria and Jordan didn't kidnap Israeli soldiers in Israeli territory for the purpose of starting a war, then tuck tail and hide among their civilians to make collateral damage worse. That is why we respected our enemies...see the difference, or are you incompetent? Please respond.
israel caused the war and are responsible for the lebanese deaths,don't mean your right.you are not the "whole world"!
Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better, but the last time Israel "won" 40 miles of Lebanon, it ended up with its very own Viet Nam and had to scuttle out with its tail between its legs.
Well said. It is enough of a victory to fight on the way to death and not go quietly an afraid. Nazarallah was bold, honest and smart. His fighters were brave and well trained. His biggest mistake was letting his long range missles be destroyed in the first hour of war, but that may have been not his stupidity but rather Iran's - or the IDF got one thing right. lucky I guess
The Arabs' claim of victory is another bit of nonsense that seem to affect their view of efforts to destroy the Jewish state. Despite the efforts by the IDF to avoid civilian casualties about 400 died - a tragedy - but about 800 of the Hez perished in their bunkers,fields and civilian buildings.With about 5 billion dollars of damage to the Lebanese infrastucture and the economy in shambles, the war could hardly be called a victory for the opponents of the Jewish state.
Though Narallah threw the 1st stone of the "war"he really had no idea that Israel would have reacted the way they did. Having several parts of Lebanon destroyed was not in his plans. So yes Israel has learned a hard lesson. It will take a lot more next time for Israel to react. And the next time it happens Israel will know and will make sure that world opinion will be more on their side before expanding to any war effort.
It was discussed in depth that IDF had war plans, Olmert reviewed and updated them a month before the Hizbollah cross-border raid. Unfortunately IDF was not ready to implement the war plan, nobody told Olmert the IDF was not prepared. USA urged them on, Olmert and Peretz tried to hold the army back and let the air force win it. Didn't work out as planned. So the Hizzy raid was just a pretext, IDF started the war. sorry
This war, as most wars, was a disaster, for both combatants.These may be some of the reasons reasons why Hizbollah perceives a victory: 1)Unrealistic expectations of Israelis from the military solution. 2)Outcomes and performance fell short of grandiose expectations. 3) Since goals for war were so wishy washy and vague,no possible outcome can bring a sense of satisfaction. Even pushing the Hizbollah forces north of the Litani river do not seem to quench the thirst for spectacular feats. 4) Hizbollah now defines itself with this Israeli dissatisfaction with results. They even praise the Winograd report and claim "their victory" is now independently reconfirmed.
You harmed the people of Lebanon more than you harmed the people of Israel, silly Nasrallah. That's why the Arab world is mad at you, though you're too foolish to see it. 1. Look at collateral damage, do a tally and figure out who's going to work harder to rebuild...I think it's Lebanon 2. Look at the number of dead bodies, do a tally and see who suffered worse...I think it's Lebanon you forced innocent Lebanese and Israeli people to suffer & you call it a victory because a minority of the suffering people were Israeli? That's just sick. Your whole lunatic Hizbullah clan should be taken out with a targeted strike using biochemical warfare.
Boo hoo, poor drug dealing terrorists. Boo hoo. Give it a rest!
No one won this war, and certainly not Lebanon. Let's compare facts shall we. In Israel today people have jobs and legitimate foreign investment is flooding into the country to take advantage of Israels only natural resource, the talent, education and dedication of it's people. There isn't a single obvious scar left from the war and certainly no damage to the countries infrastructure. Meanwhile in Lebanon the country is begging for handouts from the international community, taking massive loans that the country will be repaying for generations and all to refund the building of bridges that had not long been completed before the Terrorist Drug Runner Nasralla launched your poor nation into a war Lebanon had no need of, and nothing to gain from. So you won! Won what exactly? No bridges, no factories, no jobs and huge crater in central Beirut. Well if thats you winning I'd hate to see what would be left if you actually lost.
I wish all the best to the poor Lebanese citizens. Unfortunately, I have met so many Lebanese in the diaspora, that I could feel their pain to be forced to live outside of the country...because of disastrous civil and sectarian wars which hit Lebanon. Those tragedies opened the door for the Iranian mullahs who wanted a foothold on the Mediterranean Sea. The 5 - 6 Billion dollar Iranian investment in bunkers in South Lebanon is the stolen bread from the tables of the Iranian poor. Nasrallah failed his fellow citizens and owes a apology to the ordinary Iranian, before going into his undeserved exile. The poor masses of Shi'ites, and all other Lebanese will hopefully put their act together and succeed. But who is openminded in Lebanon?
It is more likely that he divides his time between the Ayatollah's palace in Iran and Assad's palace in Latakia, Syria. And I'm sure when he needs to give one of his famous speeches, he has a set all ready for him done up as a bunker, a-la-Hollywood, complete with a 'blue screen' and a makeup specialist.
A warning sign, that was not understood by the populace allready in butchering mood, that makes blind. Proportionality and the law in general, Israel is not above it, as an idea of reason.
Does this drug runner terrorist embecile really believe that anyone in Israel gives a hoot what he thinks? Why don't you go and try and find the last standing building in the Shite neighbourhood of Beirut. Maybe you can run some heroine into Europe to pay for the rebuilding, you criminal terrorist drug dealing coward.
"the fact is that the soldiers are still enjoying our hospitality and will only be released in an exchange as Mr. Nassrallah stated at the onset of the war." Who is "our"? I thought only Hizbullah accepted responsibility for entering Israel and kidnapping and killing soldiers, and the rest of Lebanon has nothing to do with it and shouldn't be held accountable. After all, the Lebanese government insisted they have no control over Hizbullah and should not be blamed for the actions of a rogue organization.
Jon called for Nasrallah's assassination when he said "Next Nasrallah speaks in public, take him out!!! " with "an IDF missile" In 1992 the IDF killed the old leader of Hezb. Seyyed Abbas al-Musawi. Since then Hezb. has only gotten stronger. First causing Israel to re-think their occupation of Lebanon and withdraw in 2000. Second Hezb. created a southern defense zone that made the Israeli invasion much more difficult than anyone ever expected. Now Hezb. is in a position to control all of Lebanon. Killing Nasrallah in a public setting would serve only to strengthen Hezbollah's position. After the funeral of Hassan and all of the innocent civilians killed by the IDF missile, Hezb. will have the kind of public support they need to break the political stalemate. Israel would hand Hezb. control of Lebanon on a silver platter if Hassan were to die. Israel should be hoping Hassan a long healthy life until control over the Lebanese Gov't is resolved.
In the places that got bombed, there were no innocents. -SLAVO how about the 400 lebanese children killed by israeli bombs?! were they not innocent slavo?
by making it clear that Olmert and Peretz and Halutz were completely unprepared and caught with their pants down by the 2006 Hizbullah cross-border attack, and rubbishing any notion that Olmert and Peretz and Halutz had planned the war in advance.
Marilyn said "The whole world knows very well that the US and Israel decided to bomb Lebanon back to the stone ages and they succeeded very well indeed" Very true, the goal was clearly to intimidate the Lebanese people to turn against Hezbollah through sheer terror and destruction. That failed. Hezb. now has gained enough political strength to make a bid at taking control of the Gov't through popular support. Far from being bombed into the Stone Age, Israel's senseless violence has led the rest of the modern world to pay for rebuilding Lebanon to be better than ever. Lebanon is receiving modernization both in infastructure and in military training and weaponry. Thanks to Israel's attack, Lebanon is being rebuilt stronger than before. It is being rebuilt to be a 21st century nation. The result will be a Lebanon that is far from the Stone Age
He finally came up from his hole underground for a breath of fresh air. Curious to know why he is still in hiding
Enjoy your shower, hot mean, couch and tv in this lifetime. Cause when you die, you're in for a treat my friend.
Shepherd said "When you fight a war and when it ends you have lost almost 20 miles of land. This means you lost." Israel didn't keep this land either, so did Israel lose? But more importantly, as a result of Israel launching the war Nasrallah is now in a struggle for control over the whole country of Lebanon. Thanks to Israel, Nasrallah is now in a position to gain unprecidented control over all of Lebanon. So in denying Hezbollah control over 20 miles of land, Israel has put Hezbollah in position to control the whole country. The oddest thing is that Israel CONTINUES to campaign on behalf of Nasrallah by launching flights over Lebanon almost daily. Every flight, every sonic boom, stengthens Nasrallah's support and weakens Siniora. Israel is handing Lebanon to Nasrallah. Not exactly what I would call a "victory" for Israel.
Your enemy has respect for you, and even though you lost to him in this last round, you still fail to show even a tiny bit of respect back. The differnece between Israelis now and Israelis back in the day is that those who won the glorious wars with the Arabs respected the enemies they were up against. They fought well and hard and earned their victories. Whereas you are so lost in your illusion of invincibility that you would never respect any enemies you might currently have. It is this very lack of respect that made you lose the last war with Hezbollah, and this very lack of respect will make lose the next war.
Lebanon lost a lot of infrastructure and a lot of people, Israel lost many people and a lot of face. No one can claim to be victorious...
In the places that got bombed, there were no innocents. Anyone killed was a direct result of Hizbullah activities. And where is your concern for the Israeli casualties? Does your bleeding heart bleed in only one direction?
benevolent soul in support of democratic Israel. Let me guess, you support the Israeli Court saying targeted assassinations are a-okay. Well, what goes around comes around and be careful what you wish for. The IDF is not what folks thought it was, nossiree, it is not. However, it is still effective in rousting the defenseless Pals, but not effective against a rag tag Hez without millions of dollars of US bombs and equipment with sinking ships, blasted out tanks and overweight IDF soldiers huffing and puffing out of Lebanon at the war's end. I guess you think the US and Israel will successfully oppress the indigenous folks in the area until your little heart's content, right? Behold Iraq and Afghanistan and Lebanon and think again. Notice the storm clouds gathering. Be smart and put up your umbrella. Regards.
agree with you. If you won, why are heads still rolling a year after and why does everybody say you lost, except you? Well, by your standards, the US is winning in Iraq, too. What Israel did win is the prize for the most physical destruction for the world to pay for and the most folks killed. In fact, Israelis are still whining about 157 dead on their side never mentioning the 1,000 Lebanese they killed in a needless, pointless war. Israel also totally lost the PR war. So, if you say they won, they won, but you should have gone to defend Olmert against the Commission, who had a totally opposite view, not to mention the loss of Israel's infallibility ruse. Nope, sorry, no cigar for a win there. Regards.
Ms. Marlyn incinuates that israel won because of the carnage in Lebanon. I would agree with her if israel's objective was to create a carnage such as that in Kana. But in fact, Mr. Olmert has stated ealry on that the objective was to get back the two captured soldiers, and destroy the Lebanese resistance. the fact is that the soldiers are still enjoying our hospitality and will only be released in an exchange as Mr. Nassrallah stated at the onset of the war. Moreover, as you can see by looking at Hizballah's strongholds and in the South of Lebanon, Hizballah is back stronger then ever. As a matter of fact, after the war a lot more lebanese, and especially Christians have greatly increased their support for Mr. Nassrallah and Hizballah. In essence his base of support in Lebanon has greatly increased, and the same occurred in the rest of the Arab world. So again, how did israel win, and how did you figure that Lebanon lost?
No, Israel did not do as well as hoped in the last war. Mistakes were made. Israel ownwed up to them and will correct them. Some Hezbollah victory though: hundreds dead, the UN is on Lebanese soil and Nasrallah is pushing for yet another civil war. And, Sinora in his fantasy world is bracing for another attack ...from Israel. Perhaps the Lebanese public will understand that they pay the cost for the folly of Sinora and Nasrallah....Sinora for allowing his country to become a cesspool and Nasrallah for dragging Lebanon into a war, for Iran and Syria.
Dear Slavo, I have to thank you for showing us the level of ignorance that has led to the israeli defeat in Lebanon. do you seriously think that Nasrallah lives the way you state. If you do then our final victory is a lot sooner than i thought. you just made my day. Anthony.
lets assume i agree with some of what you said, although i definatly dont. how many points would you give a group of people who resulted the winograd report when militarily facing a fully equipped and established country backed from the most powerful country in the world (at the moment)for 34 days without achieving any of its goals? I am expecting a logical answer, not an emotional one, if its possible.
Asking to wipe out Nasrallah, though totally your right reveals how much you lack in undersntanding Hezbollah. Its not a 1-man show! Its an entire shiite community. For the sake of your credibility, read a little more and get to know your enemy, then come back to discuss how to get rid of this threat.
There was too little of it. Those villages should have been bombed to dust rather than let the brave boys of the IDF risk their lives to flush them out street by street. I hope Israel has done some thinking about that too. The world is silent about the "innocent" of Lebanon because most it knows those who harbor and aid terrorists are not innocent. Lebanon should thank their moon god that Israel pulled its punches. I hope they learn the errors of their soft touch for the next time. If they decide to they really can cleanse Lebanon of the cancer of Hezbullah but they need to know that like surgery healthy tissue will be cut out. That's war. For all the tears the results will prove the pain worthwhile in the long run.
I'm so confused. Hassan Nasrallah is congratulating Israel's institutions and democracy? Olmert's incompetence during the war severely threatened the security of both Lebanon and Israel. He hit everything in Lebanon that OPPOSED Hezbollah and left them virtually untouched! The only winner was Hezbollah and now they're trying to take over Lebanon. Great job Olmert! You're the best Hezbollah fighter I've ever seen!
Let this idiot have a laugh. This commission and the pressure it puts on Olmert to resign is a step in the right direction that will ultimately make Israel a much stronger country. This guy is laughing today but he'll be crying tomorrow because of this report. Note to the new heads of the IDF. Next Nasrallah speaks in public, take him out!!! What's the matter with you??? The world will complain for 5 minutes and move on not mourning the loss of yet another psychopath. This guy should NEVER again be free to move in public without fear of an IDF missile crashing his party. Please, IDF, get that! The world does nothing as Iran gets nukes you have NOTHING to fear from wiping out Nasrallah.
I have no idea why Israel is keeping up the pretext that they are the victims here. The whole world knows very well that the US and Israel decided to bomb Lebanon back to the stone ages and they succeeded very well indeed without one thought for the innocent.
Who won the war... NO BODY wins in wars. If you were to count the objective goals of each side: Hezbollah: kidnapp soldiers and piss off Israelis = objective complete Israel: get back the soldiers = not completed bang Hezbollah = completed bonus mission: Destroy Hezbollah: not completed so, let's say 1:0 for Hezbollah next: who got the less casuaties in the war. Hebzollah: 600 Israel: 117 so, let's say 1:1 ok... and now the final score is: hezbollah: 1 Israel: 1 = 1:1 = DRAW!! Plz show this message to Nasrallah and all the other stupid people who want to know who won... They should stop asking this question from then on =]
To Bad Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah has it all wrong. When you fight a war and when it ends you have lost almost 20 miles of land. This means you lost. If Koffi Annam had not sent in the UN and Israel even while fighting while not at their best could have gone 40 miles into Lebanon if allowed to go longer. For Nasrallah to act like he won the war. He is out of his mind. Also if Hezbollah is the party of God then why does the mighty Hezbollah fighter hide among the children, schools and hospitals and hide behind womans skirts. Does the dark mask only hide the fear the mighty Hezbollah fighter has shown while under direct attack? Israel won the war.
while I enjoy a not hot shower, a hot meal and lie down on my sofa watching TV . Ya...you won the war.