Nasrallah: IDF won't stop rocket fire, conflict moving 'beyond Haifa'

People like you, Ahmad, should be hung in public squares as an example for other traitors and real terrorists. It is a shame that such a person as you is Lebanese, a disgrace to all of us and especially to people who are fighting for the liberation and future of their country. If you are idiotic enough not to understand what is happening, then please do not comment on things you are ignorned of.

I just wanted to thank u 4 ur great fealings and support.We all as lebanese people need 2 have 1 word and position in order 2 get out of the big lie we lived in 4 decades.which is israel.

HEZBOLLAH, HAS DESTROYED MY COUNTRY THIS IS UNBELEIVABLE, WHEN DID THEY GET ALL THIS POWER? WE ARE SCARED , PLEASE CEASE FIRE & ROCKET ATTACKS, TO BE QUIET HONEST WITH YOU ISRAEL WILL NOT DEFEAT HEZBOLLAH MAINLY BECAUSE THEY GOT NO BASE, YOU CANT SEE THERE SOLDIERS ,WE DONT KNOW WERE THEY OPERATE FROM , HOW DO THEY OPERATE! PLEASE OLMERT STOP FIGHTING HEZBOLLAH BECAUSE WE CANT WIN !

Tulip, I agree with you there is more than materialism. But I don't see, in general, people who have their material needs, turning into religious fanatics. Those who feel a spiritual void, at least in Holland, tend to go into New Age, or ietsisme ("I believe in something").

An army that fights with excellent forces and tanks with the assistance of an air force cannot go into a village directly on the border except after a battle that has continued for days with great losses against a number of opposition fighters is a failed and defeated army. Conclusion: Israeli people will live with continuos fear, our life is permanently destabilized. Israel has no safe future.

Bor:My first hunch would be to say: if people have enough income, drive a car, have a TV and two holidays a year to a sunny beach, and a feeling of job security, they don`t have a longing for a fundamentalist religion. But why then in the US? I don`t know. Bor, ever heard of people who can look beyond this and search for some spirituality instead of the materialsim you mention?

Iran is supporting hizbollah in lebanon because thats the only way for them to stay in power. All the time when a totalitary regim as in Iran have the power they allways made them self enemys just too scary upp their own citizents. I mean if Iran regim get friend with USA and Israel it will get oppen to the world and in the end this regim will fall. such regims if they dont have enemys they will created them . in the end i am christian with roots from lebanon and i prefer a jewish led goverment unstead an Ayatollah because this muslims leaders in Iran never ever shows tolerans too other religions ore culture. Islam as a religion is not evel but as in darkages in europe the religios leaders misslead the people by using religion for their own perpose. To get peace the countrys in the middeleast have to get religion out of politiks. We support Israel and my codeleanses too your falling soldiers.

I think if you wanna live in peace, release all prisoners and all occuiped lands. or u gonna face more Hizbollah

Mark, isn't there work to do in Texas? I see you are a full time commentatot now since you give us your opinion on every topic. Mark, what do you think of Nasrallah's words, which were showed on CNN last night, that `we will win this war, for Israel loves life and Hezbollah loves war'? I would like to have your comment on that, directly, not on turnarounds. Thanks.

I have asked myself these past days, why would Hezbollah put their own people in such mortal danger in those villages in the South of Lebanon? They have built over the years a social structure for the poor, so why did they plant kutshusha rockets launchers and ammunision around those same village houses..They must have an ego as big as the moon. Was it so terrible for them to lose face. If only the world and their followers could see them for who they really are....

Thank you for your reply. I am convinced that when Israel was founded in 1948 Arabs wanted and endeavored for its destruction. But almost 60 years later, all Arabs, save for some bitter and radical minorities; have resigned themselves to the right of Israel to exist. The present discourse between Arabs and Israel is over boundaries and is also a result of the continuation of the vicious circle of violence and counter violence. I am afraid that Israel always seems to react way too disproportionately to violence against it. Perhaps this is because the memory of the holocaust is still fresh in the Jewish collective memory. Consequently, I believe that Palestinians in general and Lebanese occasionally are paying unjustly the price of the ?Never again? cry that continues to resonate in the Jewish consciousness. But history tells us that here is no end to the circle of violence except in the annihilation of one or the other or both.

could someone explain why the rocket attacks aren't neutralised by anti-rocket or anti-missile defence systems? surely the IDF have capabilities.

Fundamentalism is not necessarily the same as fanaticism. The first implies going back to first principles. Fanaticism is not simply a belief. All people have beliefs. The fanatic has a single minded belief, and one for which he is willing to kill and to die. The only way to fight fanaticism is through reason and persuasion. Such method takes skill and time, and it might not work with all intended audiances, but will with many. At times, a collective psychosis takes over a group of people, but that is rare. I believe, that your great fear of what you consider fanaticism sometimes leads you to irrational remarks. The greatest threat is not from Hizbollah per se, but from Iran. I am certain that they are planning something. The visit in Syria from a high ranking Iranian official is worrysome. The date of August 22, when they will respond regarding their nuclear program is a date to watch carefully. Iran's threats are not idle, and Hizbollah is taking cues and weapons from them.

quote I did not make the decision to trash the agreement to not hit each others civilians. Now Israel will have to cope with the situation Mr. Olmert decided to create. unquote Okay, you've just said that you are not Hezbullah. Because they were the ones who hit our civilians. They have been hitting them with katyushas for years, long before this campaign. Nobody noticed; nobody cared.

In Holland, we have a small "fundamentalist" political party (2%) which didn't allow women as member. The women's movement took the state to court to suspend their state subsidies and succeeded. At their last congress, the party decided to admit women members (but not yet to have them run for office). In your country, the ACLU won in court against the creationists of the Dover school district. You have a Bill of Rights, and a judicial system with a Supreme Court to uphold them. That still works, and will keep working to uphold your liberties. Even Bush did not dare to appoint Religious Right to the SC. If their numbers are big enough, you can't keep them out of the executive and, say, have the president stop stem cell research. My first hunch would be to say: if people have enough income, drive a car, have a TV and two holidays a year to a sunny beach, and a feeling of job security, they don't have a longing for a fundamentalist religion. But why then in the US? I don't know.

I like your balanced tone. We don't blame you either. But I do wish your country could have been stronger and more determined and had stopped Hezbulla from arming itself and growing powerful. I suppose we are physically strong and use it and you are physically weak and that becomes your weapon. Both weakness and strength have been exploited by Hezbulla, who sees you as a host and us as off-shoots of 'the Great Satan'.

Yes, the US Right and the ISraeli settlers are a problem, but to lump them wiht Hizbullah and Hamas shows either open bias or a lack of learning. One day, you may chose to correct that. While the settlers believe god gave them the "right" to the West Bank and Gaza, they didn't turn to suicide bombing when Gaza was evacuated. They also aren't an army of millions calling for jihad against everyone else. they want a small piece of land, and the majority of Jews say that's not going to happen. On the other hand, Islam has yet to go through the reformations Judaism and Christianity went through. Very large percentages of not only Arab Muslims, but worldwide Muslims, take the Koran, Hadith and other sources very seriously. A core component is that there are only two lands: dar al-Islam, the land of Islam, and dar al-Harb, the land of War. There are also very clear rules instututionalized in the religion on how to humiliate dhimmis, non-Muslims. You really need to learn before you speak.

Khaled, Maybe, and the last time Hezbollah kidnapped Israel did do the prisoner exchange. Only to have more rocket attacks and kidnappings. The war was bound to happen earlier or later given that Hezbollah can't even bear to call Israel by name -- they call it Zionist entity or Occupied Palestine referring to the whole country. They and their Iranian sponsors openly talk about wiping Israel off the face off the earth. You should know all this why asking naive questions?

If Nasrallah launches longer-range missiles beyond Haifa, kill Assad & attack Iran's nuke facilities.

Ben Gurion, to rephrase your expectations in another dimension: 1) several hundreds of Lebanese dead 2) several tens of Israelis dead 3) South Lebanon wreaked in havoc 4) minor damage in North Israel for ... nothing. On the PR front, a huge PR disaster for Israel and a huge PR win for Hezbollah, which bolsters its image as the Arab champion. Security-wise, Israel will gain nothing, as Haifa can still be reached by Hezbollah rockets.

Fundamentalist Fanaticism. It is a threat in the middle east. It is a threat in Israel. It is a threat in the United States. Although one can deal with a fundamentalist, one cannot reason with a fundamentalist. There is a simple 'reason." To reason is to involve the critical faculties to arrive ac conclusions opinions or actions. A fundamentalist is someone who has rejected reason for belief. Belief is a state or habit of mind in which trust or confidence is placed in a person or thing - or religious dogma. Thus a person who believes is a person who has forsaken reason. So what to do with Hizbollah, Hamas, the Religious Right or the Settlers? Any suggestions?

Connie, the Jews in Iran are scared. But they are not scared quite the way you think. They have a token representative in the legislature and suffer discrimination. From what I can see in the press, they do not want to leave, and do not want things to get worse. Do you want to seem them worse off? They don't seem to want that.

cheers to Israel, 'bout time you defended yourself.

"Israel plans to occupy a very narrow strip along the border. (Olmert says 2 km.)" - Ben Gurion This cannot stop the rockets, what is he thinking? "After a cease fire, an international force will take over the strip" - Ben Gurion Are there that many idiots in the world? Do they want to end up like NATO in Afghanistan? "he int`l force will not deploy along Syria/Lebanon border, so Hizballah will get back its missiles" - BG And more. " Hizballah will remain armed, saying they still need to deter Israel," - BG They have proven the only force that would defend Lebanon against Israel. "fter things quiet down, indirect negotiations on Prisoners exchange between Israel and Hizballah" - BG Never according to Olmert. "Israeli public is appalled by the uselessness of this war resulting in missiles on cities. " - BG So, then they have a Likud government because once again Labor has failed. In the end, Israel is worse off than January 2006 and the peaceniks will be blamed.

You are wrong...the Jews that are unfortunately left in Iran are scared to death. They are forced in front of the camera,just like the Nazi's did to Jews, and told to say how happy they are to live under this madman and this islamic fascist country. If you cannot understand this then there is no hope for you.

"Which still leaves a small part of Northern Israel open to rockets." - Bor de Wolf Understood about the rockets, but the river line is relatively easy to hold. "But what`s more, do you think that sustainable?" - Bor de Wolf At considerable cost. I did not make the decision to trash the agreement to not hit each others civilians. Now Israel will have to cope with the situation Mr. Olmert decided to create. At least the river line would confine most casualties to IDF soldiers. "The Lebanese already showed their dislike for Israeli occupation, that`s the reason why Hezbollah grew big." - Bor de Wolf Yes. "Hezbollah or whatever other organization that forms will employ guerrilla tactics and make life very miserable for the IDF. Or am I missing something?" - Bor de Wolf You are missing nothing. The IDF will have to pay for Mr. Olmert's decision, but better the IDF than Israel's towns and cities.

The general outcome of the "war" in Lebanon is becoming apparent: 1. Israel plans to occupy a very narrow strip along the border. (Olmert says 2 km.) 2. After a cease fire, an international force will take over the strip. ( I am assuming Hizballah will agree to a cease fire; perhaps Syria will pressure them to accept, for some benefit.) 3. The int'l force will not deploy along Syria/Lebanon border, so Hizballah will get back its missiles. 4. The US may get the Security Council to declare Shabba Farms as Lebanese territory. They will have to delineate the new border. 5. Hizballah will remain armed, saying they still need to deter Israel. 6. After things quiet down, indirect negotiations on Prisoners exchange between Israel and Hizballah. 7. Israeli public is appalled by the uselessness of this war resulting in missiles on cities. A State Commission of Inquiry is established, like the Agranat Commission following Yom Kippur War. Investigate govmnt decision making process.

surely these are the words of Ulmert. He doesn't know what to do? How can he answer the troops and their families? He should repent to 'hashem'.

"Article 2: Palestine, with its boundaries at the time of the British Mandate, is a indivisible territorial unit. Article 17: The partitioning of Palestine, which took place in 1947, and the establishment of Israel are illegal and null and void, Article 24: This Organization does not exercise any territorial sovereignty over the West Bank in the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, on the Gaza Strip or in the Himmah Area. Its activities will be on the national popular level in the liberational, organizational, political and financial fields." - PLO Charter 1964 "You choose to ignore the fact that gaza and the west bank weren`t considered to be part of a future palestinian state, as the PLO clearly stated in their charter. Art. 24, claiming no sovreignty over gaza and the west bank.? - Peter Peter is trying to convince us (not for the first time) that the Palestinians are just trouble makers, did not aspire to nationhood. Fact (according to P), they didn't consider Gaza and West Bank as theirs, prior to 67. How about a less fantastic understanding of the obvious? Article 24 stated that they did not EXERCISE (at that time) sovereignty over those 3 areas, because other Arab countries did. They did not want to start their national liberation battle by fighting other Arab regimes which they expected help from. So while from their point of view all of mandatory Palestine was one unit (Art 2), they first were going to ?liberate? (pre-67) Israel. They didn?t say explicitly when they would demand their areas back from Egypt, Jordan, and Syria, but the natural point would have been after Israel was eliminated. P.S. The ?Himma? area is Hamat Gader, on the western slope of the Golan, and under Syrian control pre-67.

"Egypt got back every grain of the Sinai" - Joe "Egypt got back every grain of sinai but not every grain of Egypt, gaza was Egyptian." - Peter No, Gaza was administered by Egypt, but Egypt did not claim it as its national territory, nor did Egypt want it. (Who needs so many refugees?) The city of Rafa spreads on both sides of the border. In 1979 Begin offered Sadat to take also the Israeli side. Sadat said no, thanks. "Jordan didn`t get back the West Bank." - Peter Jordan renounced every claim to the West Bank in 1988. The West Bankers no longer were issued Jordanian passports, no more support for institutions, gone. For peace with Israel (1993), Jordan demanded, and got, every last centimeter of its territory beyond "Palestine". Over the years, Israel pushed into some Jordanian territory in the Wadi Arabba and elsewhere. Jordan got it all back. Where do you get this kind of fantastic good news information, Peter? I want to see that movie too. Need humor badly these days.

To all those who advocate violence , terrorism , and hatred you should stop this .. Hizbolla and Olmert's policy r both destroying Lebanon .Israelis are not expected to be merciful and we , Lebanese, should not support them while they are killing our people. Hizbolla should be abolished and israe;is should stop this savage killing of civilian Lebanese. I hope everyone stops this mutual accusation of treason . A huge number of Lebanese people don't support Hizbolla and this is not to be considered treason . Some jews are racists and they have to reconsider this because it is bringing more destruction and porvoking more hatred in both sides . Instead of this unlimited and useless discussion , call for stopping the war to stop the suffering ..

"Israel MUST at this point clear and occupy a region of Lebanon large enough to keep Hizbollah rockets from landing on it's population." - Mark L "When considering the possibility Hezbollah has Zelzal rockets, it means about the whole of Lebanon." - Bor de W Bor is correct, of course. There is no way to solve the missile "threat" by occupation. The width of the occupied strip was already announced to be 2 km. The goals are becoming more realistic. This will only suffice (hopefully) to prevent Hizballah from kidnapping other Israelis in the future. The missiles themselves are actually not an "existential" threat, as we are seeing today (and knew before). In fact, they were only acquired by Hizballah in order to deter Israeli attacks against civilians; they have no hope of destroying Israel. This is just talk suitable for paranoids. One IDF view was to let those missiles stay there "until they rust". Unfortunately, the political leadership turned a minor incident into this.

Egypt got back every grain of sinai but not every grain of Egypt, gaza was Egyptian. Jordan didn't get back the West Bank. Both countries settled for less than everything and peace has lasted between them and Israel. You choose to ignore the fact that gaza and the west bank weren't considered to be part of a future palestinian state, as the PLO clearly stated in their charter. Art. 24, claiming no sovreignty over gaza and the west bank. Egypt and Jordan were able to see the benefits of peace and were willing to settle for less than maximalist positions.

"It seems that the longest ranged rockets we KNOW to be in Hizbollah`s arsenal can hit Haifa from Tyre, thus the natural defense line of the Litani river suggest itself." Which still leaves a small part of Northern Israel open to rockets. But what's more, do you think that sustainable? The Lebanese already showed their dislike for Israeli occupation, that's the reason why Hezbollah grew big. Hezbollah or whatever other organization that forms will employ guerrilla tactics and make life very miserable for the IDF. Or am I missing something?

"It seems that the longest ranged rockets we KNOW to be in Hizbollah`s arsenal can hit Haifa from Tyre, thus the natural defense line of the Litani river suggest itself." Which still leaves a small part of Northern Israel open to rockets. But what's more, do you think that sustainable? The Lebanese already showed their dislike for Israeli occupation, that's the reason why Hezbollah grew big. Hezbollah or whatever other organization that forms will employ guerrilla tactics and make life very miserable for the IDF. Or am I missing something?

Tulip, you say that "Exactly, Israel will jump into this 150 km swamp and will chase Hezbollah where ever it can." Apart from the political feasibility, which is very doubtful, I don't even see a military feasibility in such a scenario. Even if the IDF were to accomplish such a feat, I don't see them controlling the "150 km swamp" to keep Hezbollah out. Care to elaborate?

"Olmert, it was reported a couple of days ago, never condidered Hizballah missiles until now." - Ben Gurion Man drives country off cliff, discovers gravity.

"Mark, I appreciate your insightful comments. But how do you envisage this?" - Bor de Wolf It seems that the longest ranged rockets we KNOW to be in Hizbollah's arsenal can hit Haifa from Tyre, thus the natural defense line of the Litani river suggest itself. "When considering the possibility Hezbollah has Zelzal rockets, it means about the whole of Lebanon." - Bor de Wolf Then life gets impossibly complicated. Since any negotiated peace is ruled out by Israel; that would require the occupation of all of Lebanon. A depressing prospect.

89% with the resistence against the invadoresto our territories

You keep wanting to put the blame for this conflict on Israel. You will not succeed. The extensive preperations by Hizbollah which preceded the crossborder raid and the simultaneous rocket fire on Shlomi, prove without a shadow of doubt that Hizbollah was preparing for a serious fight. The fact that Al-Manar TV had several back-up transmission stations shows that they were expecting an attack in response to their aggression.

if they ever find that terrorist nasrallah, i will bet osama bin laden is hiding in the same cave

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/07/26/opinion/edhayke.php Here is an article from todays International Herald Tribune.It makes you think (But obviously not to the people that dont think)

are the ground soldiers using body armour?

war declared by Hizbala,quite likely with the collusion of Iran. The Hagana was formed IN Response to Arab unprovoked massacres of unarmed often anti zionist Jews in Jerusalem Hebron and elsewhere between 1920 and 1930. Those are the facts. "Iron Fist" is slogan shouting. What "Iron Fist" is Israel using against Egypt and Jordan?

"Hizbolla will stay and we hope they continue doing what they are doing". Truly, such statements leave me perplexed... Hesbollah brought destraction and suffering upon Lebanon more then anybody else. Why would any Lebanese citizen want that to continue??? Why would Lebanon want to be little IRAN while it can be little France or Monaco?

Exactly, Israel will jump into this 150 km swamp and will chase Hezbollah where ever it can.

Israel has to defend itself against people who have openly commited themselves to Israels destruction. Need you be reminded of Hizbalas patron,Iran,who have armed Hizbala with a vast range of OFFENSIVE weapons.

" When was the last conflict between Israel and Egypt and Jordan? The answer is none since they made peace. Perhaps the Palistinians and Hizbulloh should simply make peace for peace sake and see how they are treated rather than kidnap soldiers and fire rockets into Israel`s towns and cities" Egypt got back every grain of the Sinai and all Israeli settlements were dismantled. On top of that, Israel got Uncle Sam to pay Egypt reparation around 2 billion annually for the past 20 plus years. I think that's a good deal and the same deal needs to be made for Palestine inorder to achieve the kind of peace you seem to praise. The same can be said of Jordan, they got their port back and are paid reparation for Israeli war crimes. Had Israel kept an inch of Egyptian territory, there would be no peace as is evident today with Palestine,Lebanon and Syria. You just proved my point, there will be peace the day Israel places a greater value on human life and peace than over stealing Arab lands.

"Israel MUST at this point clear and occupy a region of Lebanon large enough to keep Hizbollah rockets from landing on it's population." - Mark L "When considering the possibility Hezbollah has Zelzal rockets, it means about the whole of Lebanon." - Bor de W Bor is correct, of course. There is no way to solve the missile "threat" by occupation. The width of the occupied strip was already announced to be 2 km. The goals are becoming more realistic. This will only suffice (hopefully) to prevent Hizballah from kidnapping other Israelis in the future. The missiles themselves are actually not an "existential" threat, as we are seeing today (and knew before). In fact, they were only acquired by Hizballah in order to deter Israeli attacks against civilians; they have no hope of destroying Israel. This is just talk suitable for paranoids. One IDF view was to let those missiles stay there "until they rust". Unfortunately, the political leadership turned a minor incident into this.

"If Hebullah is an agent of Iran, it is also a pawn for Iran. Just because Nassrallah didn`t expect this reaction, it doesn`t follow that Iranians did not." - bbl Hizbollah was created as a direct response to the invasion of Lebanon by Israel. Were you to ask Hizbollah, no doubt they would view themselves as using Iran, rather than the other way around. I doubt if you can comprehend this, but as much as Washington treated Lafayette as the son he never had, there was no way Washington was France's lackey.

We will know how prepared they are only after IDF ground forces goes deep into Lebanon. Looking at Bint Jbeil, all I can tell Mr. Komati is hell of a planner.

You certainly didn't expect Olmert to go ballistic. Neither did I. And it is very clear neither did Hizbollah. I figured a few sharp kicks in Hizbollah's nuts, and then a deal. Olmert decided upon a war with Lebanon. I guess given his performance in Gaza (which has still not stopped the qassams or freed the corporal), we should have. My country benefited no small amount from the desire of France and Spain to make trouble for the British. Most Americans will not recognize Rochambeau, or Galvez, but that is because they only attended the Fess Parker school of history. But to suggest that the root cause of the American Revolution was France and Spain is total folly.

"If Hebullah is an agent of Iran, it is also a pawn for Iran." - Bbl You are thinking in a simplistic way, Bbl. Hizballah are not pawns, certainly not when they are dealing with Lebanon matters which they know best. They may do favors for Iran elsewhere, but in Lebanon matters you can take them to be the principals. (Of course, Iran has its influence and they may need to be consulted sometimes.) Like Israel vs. US. As far as Israel, I didn't address the pre-plans here. But it seems you again don't have a clear view. There are MILITARY plans for all contingencies. Example: If we are ordered by the politicos to conquer Lebanon, what forces will be assigned. OR, if Hizballah fires their rockets at us what do we do operationally. But these are not political plans. Things are not as organized as in the US where you have an NSC with strategic forethoughts. The political leadership improvizes. Olmert, it was reported a couple of days ago, never condidered Hizballah missiles until now

"Israel MUST at this point clear and occupy a region of Lebanon large enough to keep Hizbollah rockets from landing on it`s population." Mark, I appreciate your insightful comments. But how do you envisage this? Considering the rockets Hezbollah has been firing this means about 150 km into Lebanon. When considering the possibility Hezbollah has Zelzal rockets, it means about the whole of Lebanon.

"If Hizballah did not foresee the escalation (and neither did the vast majority, if not all of us) then this is not an Iran plan, but an Israeli plan to escalate." If Hebullah is an agent of Iran, it is also a pawn for Iran. Just because Nassrallah didn't expect this reaction, it doesn't follow that Iranians did not. It is also not proper logic to claim, as many have, that the Israeli actions were premeditated as if it was their plan all along. The Israelis would have been idiots to not have a contingency plan in the wings (in case of an outrageous cross border provocation). But that's a far cry from a premeditated attack. To make a comparison: You can have a fire escape installed on your building; and a plan for evacuation in case of a fire. But that does not mean your planning on having (or starting) a fire.

Dear Golda, H. Nasrallah is not defending Lebanon against anyone. He is a "Fifth Column" (a very effective one) representing interest of Syria and Iran and working as a proxy for them. Lebanon is combined of many minorities. The fundamentalist Shia Muslim component is only a one of many. He does not represent others including moderate Shia, Suni, etc. However, he is the most militant and determined of all fractions. His agenda (he often says so) is aimed at transforming the whole middle east to an Islamic state like IRAN! When a potential war will errupt between Israel and Syria and/ or Iran his role will be to act as "scout" for those states and paralize Israel by firing rockets. Therefore Israel has to take him down and elibarate Lebanon of him.

You'd be rich and the world would be a better place. But it's even more than that. Israelis (and Jews in general) have a hard time hearing criticism of Israel because it so often comes from folks who will not be satisfied until Israel is gone. The cries of "anti-semitism" arise so easily because it is so often just below the surface of otherwise valid criticism. Jews themselves have a hard time criticizing Israel because when a Jew does, he/she often finds their own words posted on Nazi websites (who wants that!?) Obviously, this dynamic helps no one. I know that some folks have, at heart, a generalized desire for peace and justice for all. However, it, all to often, comes out in acts that single out Israel as uniquely deserving condemnation. Without preceeding statements like yours (in #150), the message is lost among the obvious bias. That is to say, ironically, Israel haters have made it very difficult to give or receive commentary that is appropriately critical of Israel

I am really a person with a conscience despite what the world thinks of me.I have looked into my conscience and I am now repenting before Allah for my sinful arrogance in launching this entirely unprovoked war against Israel. I fear that, even were I to order Hizbollah to put down their arms and cease firing rockets into Israel,they would not listen to me and would consider me a traitor to the cause. I therefore am suffering the double agony of repenting of my sins and living with the knowledge that I am now impotent

I think NOW is the noment to deal a deadly blow to hizbollah. If Israel waits until Iran gets nuclear (with the tacit consent of the rest of the world, despite "talks") there will be no more opportunity to do this. Iran will use his nuclear arms as a deterrent for every Israeli movement, and as soon it is capable to do so it will try to nuke Israel irrespective of the Palestinians and arabs who will be killed together with the state of Israel. They all become shahids,and are Sunnites anyway. If the weakening or elimination of hizbollah will result in a more reasonable behaving of Iran is doubtful. There is a president who is no less foolish and determined than Hitler was. But in the western world nobody wants to see that: Every promise from this president of Iran will be fulfilled if he gets the opportunity. So please Israel: watch out, do not rely on help from EU or the US, you are alone. May be you will have to make the first move in the nuclear war which is to come.

1. fully obliterate any war making capability of Pan-Islamic World. 2. Convert to Islam. 3 or, of course: DIE. It seems to me, that Europe has chosen #2 or #3, in that they fight against #1 So, Europeans, is it OK being Muslim? Is it OK living in Muslim Country? Are you satisfied with your lot in life, Europeans? What the Nazis did to you in war, the Muslims did to you like a cake walk. Europeans are a pathetic lot.

"The truth is - let me say this clearly - we didn't even expect (this) response.... that (Israel) would exploit this operation for this big war against us," - Komati (Hizballah) For those seeing an Iranian plan in the escalating conflict (in order to divert attention from their nuclear program issue), how about this statement? If Hizballah did not foresee the escalation (and neither did the vast majority, if not all of us) then this is not an Iran plan, but an Israeli plan to escalate. Iran is of course benefitting. Another hot spot around the world means a lesser ability to deal with Iran forcefully. Moreover, it gives them more leverage to negotiate with the world since they can influence the big new trouble spot. Iran benefitted from Bush eliminating their enemy Saddam, and are benefitting again from Olmert's folly. P.S. They way out for the conspirators is to say that Komati is spreading misinformation, etc..

I agree Joe, when all of the Arabs States attacked Israel during Yom Kippur in 1973, it clearly was Israel's aggression that was the cause. I have a question for you Joe. When was the last conflict between Israel and Egypt and Jordan? The answer is none since they made peace. Perhaps the Palistinians and Hizbulloh should simply make peace for peace sake and see how they are treated rather than kidnap soldiers and fire rockets into Israel's towns and cities.

On what charge, defending his country against occupation?

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/743047.html It has always been a miscalculation to think otherwise.

Definitely not true that nasralla did a mistake. If he did, YOU will not see that.. he will not show it to you. be smart a bit and stop trying to "read between the lines".

Hizbolla will stay and we hope they continue doing what they are doing.

"It is to be hoped that Israel`s Intelligence network is widening as the conflict goes on." - Shalom Freedman The intelligence in this war has been particularly bad.

"Victory is coming" - Gamal abdulnasser Ah, you basing that assertion upon your gigantic successes in 1956, '67 in the Attrition war and in 1973?

Sorry Adrian, for some reason when I reply in a positive fashion, the Random Censorship Generator tends to dump me into the memory hole. I didn't argue that Israel should give up Adrian. My comment addressed the tendency of Politicians to not be honest with themselves or their people about what a war will cost them and how long it will last. This dishonesty can easily come back to haunt both, especially when the nature or scope of the war is questionable. Israel MUST at this point clear and occupy a region of Lebanon large enough to keep Hizbollah rockets from landing on it's population. This is not going to be cheap, easy, or brief. Time to be honest Adrian, that was my point.

As i commented in the 1st part of my note to your newspaper-pse allow me 2 continue with other misc observations. I mentioned that it would be beneficial 4 all parties concerned if they would co-exist in a relative state of peace between all the soverign countries in the region. There can be no outside influences that would be used against any of the populations. Both Iran and Syria(the Arab world)have declared war on Israel by proxy using the terror groups. Another question: Why is there still so much hatred and bias shown toward the Jewish people in school textbooks? What example are we giving 2 the children 4 a better future? Equal educational opportunities are one of the best ways 2 eventually try 2 achieve peace. The Jewish people have been persecuted throughout their recorded history yet have emerged as a very disciplined people as a result. Israel has made many economic advances both in the scientific fields, and resource conservation.

It is to be hoped that Israel's Intelligence network is widening as the conflict goes on. The next stage for Nasrallah should be his last.

"For Islamists a mere existence of Israel is humiliating" This statement is correct and at the nexus of the whole conflict. There is nothing the Israelis could do, short of dissapearing" that would end this sense of humiliation. In this light, they (the Israelis) might as well define the parameters and fight for the sense of security that they think they need. Clearly, their neighbors aren't aiming for a solution that is just for all.

I can't help but wonder what this region would have been like had Israel chosen a path of peace rather than war. Instead, Jews chose a more brutal occupation through more checkpoints and walls, greater colonization through settlement expansion and further aggression through assassinations, kidnappings and missiles strikes. I have said before how Israel will inherit the whirlwind of all it's hostile acts and so far the moral universe remains entact. If Palestinians are denied peace, security, right to return home, right to live in their homeland, so to will the Israelis. That's how the moral universe works. Israel destroyed the secular regimes in Palestine and Lebanon and now faces the threat of pan-Islamism forces which are tougher than anything Israel faced before. Again, that's the moral universe at work. Every action has an equal reaction and Israel is reaping what it has sown for decades in this region. Peace will come to this region the day Israeli's stop waging war.

Are you kidding me? Do you really think that if Hezbollah got back prisoners and Sheba Farms that they would stop attacking? Their creation was to get Israel out of S. Lebanon. So they left. Now what? You start a war b/c of a stupid farm area, WHICH the UN has stated is SYRIAN. It's b/w the Lebanese and syrians to fight that one out. Hezbollah works under Iran's mandate, and that mandate if we should remember that crazy leaders remarks is "to wipe Israel off the map." End of discussion. There is always an excuse. ALWAYS! If it's not this then it is that. If Israel goes to 67 borders it will STILL not be enough. The arabs will want a move back to 48 borders. Let us remember that ISRAEL was attacked on all fronts in 67. The Arabs didn't seem to worry about the Palestinian land then did they?

If you read between the lines you will realise that despite nazralla's rhetoric, it is clear that even he realises that he has made a very bad miscalculation.

Or do you just spit up lies you hear from other people. Take a look parts of your quote: "It is true also that Israel never withdrew from lands it conquered and colonised, claiming Biblical right." -- This is actually not even close to true. Since 1978 Israel has withdrawn from the Siani, Gaza, and Lebanon. "It is also true that without USA`s overt encouragement, Israel would not annihilate a whole population." -- Israel has not ever and will not ever "annihilate a whole population". There are 4 million Lebaneese. As tragic as 400 deaths are, it represents 1/100 of 1% (or 1/100th of a 1/100th -or- 1% of 1% -or- .01%) of the "whole population". "It is true that without USA`s ruling war-mongering elite, Israel would be easily defeated by Hizbollah." -- Also untrue. Hezbullah has no real infantry or tanks or planes. They can't actually defeat the Israelis. They can only drag them into conflicts which the Israelis can't outright win. Get real, please.

You want who to live in peace????? Lebanon obviously, but for Lebanon to live in peace Isreal must also live in peace. If Lebanon wants to live in peace then Lebanon should evict those rabble rousers hizbollar, then Lebanon can live in peace.

Victory is coming and every zionist knows the end of Israel is coming sooner or later. You cant stop the Islamic giant when he wakes up. Your nuclear stockpiles is muted by the islamic nuclear bomb of pakistan and very soon inshallah Iran. So keeep on pilling weapons because it is going to be a long ride back to where u came from. Palestine is only for arabs (jews, christians and muslims) and will always be open for all religions. So zionist enjoy it while it lasts. The day of judgement is coming, go ask ur rabbis it is foretold in ur own torah

One hundred years from now Muslims, Christians, Jews, and Druze will be coexisting in harmony, prosperity, mutual tolerance and respect. Iraq, Jordan, Syria, Israel, Palestine, and Lebanon will live side by side in the framework of a political, economic, and military confederation. They will all agree to do so when they realize the commonality of their future and the futility and destructiveness of selfishness, arrogance, and egocentrism. Sadly, between now and the time we become aware of this eventual certainty a great number of people will be sacrificed. So cheer not Jews when you overcome Nazism, or Vietnamese when you defeat arrogance and injustice, or Palestinians when you triumph over hatred and aggression, or South Africans when you vanquish apartheid. Rather, celebrate whenever a movement, regardless of its ethnicity, cries out for emancipation and freedom for it is in our collective human make-up as a species to rebel against any form of human degradation and defeat it. People of the world let go of your unjustified fears for fear is destructive and evil. Lend a hand to your neighbor for if you look hard enough, you will see yourself in your neighbor?s eyes.

Why should Isreal give up?? It was hisbollar that started the whole thing, it is they who should give up. There is no justfication for them to start the whole thing off in the first place. By telling Isreal to give up you are justifying hisbollars actions.

I thought you were a free democratic press, but you are censoring and ignoring my last message (here again). I will pass it then to European newspapers and magazines. Over days and weeks we have been seeing the horror of blood-sprinkled faces and blown-up dead bodies, both Jews and non-Jews. This is the visible work of mankind's modern technology applied to the insane and animal task of eliminating neighbours because of their soul aspects. Now I have just seen one single photo that surpasses all horrors, because it goes into the spiritual and projects itself in the distant future: Israeli young children writing "With Love from Israel" on bombs being prepared for delivery. That is, children that are from the beginning militarized like animals in their brains. A similar picture could be seen in Germany during World War II, as children painted the Swastika on German bombs and shouted "Heil Hitler!". This is a signature of Israel's spiritual decay. This is a preview of Israel's future.

Gentlemen: In my limited opinion-the entire "civilized" nations in the West will pay the price for inaction given the present situation. The present "war" and other ones have been part of life 4 the Jewish people frm the beginning of time. The entire MidEast is at war-with both a political beginning and a religious interperatation. Note that more wars have been started NOT by what religion says-only WHAT WE THINK IT MEANS!!! I c no logical basis 4 this war-Damascus and Tehran should be next. Another answer to this must be a complete disarming of Hamas,Hizbullah, and others that promote terrorism in any manner. Their finances should be confiscated. Multinational forces are a waste of time knowing their past record. Another question: How did the Lebanese people and government allow hizbullah to impose a terrorist state in Lebanon? The physical country and the civilian population suffer the most during wartime.Everyone must co-exist in the region.

You forget that a majority of the ME is already nuclear. During the Soivet Era, many nuclear suitcasess vanished, and a majority ended up in the ME. hmm aybe they really want nuclear power for electricity. But since there arabs, theya re not allowed.

This operation is not over yet. And if the IDF does not completely destory Hizbullah, I will leave that to the Lebanese.

i have been following this conflict from the beginning when the gaza animals kidnapped the first soldier. thgen afterwards when the hezbollah animals kidnapped the 2 other soldiers.all americans should be very concerned afer all, it was hezbollah that bombed the american marine barracks in 1982; these animals hate america, israel, and jews. instead of being in iraq, we need to bombing iran and syria, because once iran goes nuclear, that will be the end. these hezbollah animals and also hamas need to be eradicted, they are not human, they are subhuman, with no feelings, no nothing. they need to be destroyed.

Praise of what. If you stop watching CNN and your biased channels, you will know that 59 soldiers were killed today in Bint Jbeil. I am from that region and beleive me, the numbers will double soon.. God Bless Lebanon and Peace for all who are seeking peace

From Lebanon to Israel YOu wanna destroy hizbollah:fine You wanna attack their towns and kill child and woman: Fine But why do you destoy our infrastructure ;it is your money by the way through saudi investment Also your army is incapable to defeat a milicia in Bint Jbail. Yalla invade it what are you waitin for?

Imagine you are a resident of Mars, looking down on this whole little theatre. you'll see lot of little guys running around issuing projectiles at each other. sometimes houses on each side seem to crumble. people on each side fall down and don't get up. the Martian does not know who is Jewish/Arab/Lebanese/Moslem/ Israeli/ Christian/whatever. he only knows all the participants look and sound really similar [with slight variations in dress], like from the same tribe. he watches in amazement and, after concluding it is not some low-tech [and distasteful, from his lofty perch] earth-version of a lifesize pinball game, he scratches his head in wonder and asks himself - What the 'f' are they doing?

dont forget it was israels 1982 invasion of lebanon, and the killing of 14000 innocents,sabra and chitilla, occupation of s. lebanon and its brutalisation, khaim prison.......the list goes on........ what is this latest israeli adventure going to create? you guys have a death wish

All praise for IDF and Olmert for the stubborn response they gave to Terrorism which other countries cant dream off.

Peter, three weeks ago, they were talking two weeks. Three weeks from now they will be talking two weeks. The light at the end of the tunnel is always just around the corner. The only way this will be over soon is for Israel to give up.

Congratulations Israel. You have acted just in time thanks to a miscalculation by Hezbollah. As the Hezbollah statement yesterday pointed out, it was surprised by Israel's response and did not expect war. This is very fortunate for Israel because Hezbollah's preparations for war with Israel were not complete making the task of the IDF somewhat less dangerous, and certainly saving Israeli civilians from far greater horrors. The cost in blood and treasure will be enormous, but nothing compared to what it would have been had Hezbollah been allowed to complete its attack preparations.

As aJew of course I have my bias.Humiliation is of course intolerable.Unfortunately,the cycle continues with arab countries teaching in their schools ongoing hate.Israel will defend itself;it has no other choice especially where children are taught to kill and hate.I was in Israel and I metisraeli arabs and they didn't looj or sound humiliated to me. They had good jobs and their standard of living looked good to me.As long as arabs continue not to recognize Israel has no other choice but to defend itsel against all the hate and intolerance that permates that part of the world.

the same hizbollah targeting out towns and cities.

The man comes into Israel, raids an apartment building, takes the father and child with him as he tries to escape. He then kills the father in front of the child, after which he uses his rifle butt to crush the childs skull against a rock. many years later the arabs cross the border, kidnap two soldiers and hold them to exchange for this man. this is considered reasonable. in October 2000, the arabs crossed a checkpoint manned by UNIFIL and kidnapped 3 soldiers. The UN dithered and refused to give or show Israel an existing videotape of the abduction. Finally after a year they did, only they blocked out the faces of the arabs. In 2001 the IDF determined that the 3 soldiers were dead. In 2004 the bodies of these 3 were exchanged for 400 prisoners. That was considered reasonable. We are seeing the fruits of that "reasonable exchange".

Before your pride gets the best of you , realize that Israel is fighting a measured battle ans so far only using a small portion of their potential. They are handicapped by the mixing with civilian population. 2-4 weeks it will end.

"The last issue of Newsweek (with the telling frontpage text "MELTDOWN") has a thorough analysis of the problems of the US lack of strategy." - Sigurd That is just a liberal rag. All RIGHT thinking people read the Weekly Standard, which is demanding the US attack Iran. All joking aside, the psycho-right is more detached from reality than I have ever seen it.

"CHildish rubbish. They already flattened Beirut. My grandfathers house is gone, hundreds of buildings are destroyed and flattened." - Lebanese Life They don't know, they don't want to know, they think nothing has happened, and all those pictures and reports are just propaganda made up by Arabs.

"i think theses word become like a car sticker or a label can be sticked to anyone anytime anyhow anyone anyreason anyplace " - YO Agreed, that is how you control the debate. Big Brother introduced New Speak so that people wouldn't have the words to think "thought crimes." The use of buzz epithets like "Terrorist," "Zionist," and "Liberal" are all part of the same sort of program. I have a dictionary and understand the definition of all these words. But most folks who use them don't and can't. So, like Humpty Dumpty, they use them to mean what they want them to mean, instead of what they do.

"Now if you call them terrorist for defending their land who is not a terrorist ." - YO I can see the TV commercial now: "Hi, I'm Hizbollah, and I'm not really a terrorist, I just play one in reality." YO, Hizbollah is MANY things. First and foremost it is a creation of Israel's Lebanon War in the 1980s and 1990s. It is a defensive militia, a humanitarian organization, a political party, AND a terrorist organization. If they were not terrorists what were they doing crossing into Israel, killing soldiers and taking hostages?

MAYBE IF YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY OR POPULATION STOPPED SUPPORTING TERRORISTS BY LETTING HEZBOLLAH FIRE MISSLES FROM THEIR HOMES, THEN MAYBE ISRAEL WOULDN'T HAVE DESTROYED YOUR GANDFATHERS HOUSE!

"If beirut is hit my dear .. no israely in the world would be safe .. i promise you that .." - Mark from Beirut Get real Mark. Aside from Hizbollah what has any Lebanese done to defend the country? The Lebanese Armed Forces know only two tricks, roll over and play dead. Sorry the Cedar Revolution had to end like this.

I truly believe that the IDF has been more than kind to the serwer rats called Hizbulla. South Lebanon as well as Tyre, Sidon and parts of Beirut inhabitted by these Vermin should have been history on day 3 or 4. No frontal attacks just good old fashioned ONE TON Bombs. Every place from where rockets were fired should have been levelled to below ground to so that the3 Vermin can meet their virgins that much quicker.

my hair is white but not with age nor turned it white in a single night. it did perhaps turn white in a single night.

Just for your info, humiliation is only "one" byproduct of occupation and usurp of your land, displacement of your folks, not to talk about outright massacre to natives of the "once" was your country. If you still need more explanation, please do so only after you think of how would you feel if:-you were thrown out of your city and your whole country, watching your parents and others killed in cold blood for the sole reason to sew horror and fear to convince the others to empty the country for the new owner.I will refrain from accusing you to be so naive to mention examples where the mere humiliation was media connected. Mr Bush or others mentioned in your posting were not exposed to stand under the sun for hours on end,while on their way home from their work. What if you had to suffer from being forced by the occupier army to dance,or being spitted at,infront of your children,to please same soldiers. Or get jailed for democratically voting...! would you feel humiliation then Mr.

CHildish rubbish. They already flattened Beirut. My grandfathers house is gone, hundreds of buildings are destroyed and flattened. I suggest you stop watching CNN and look at the real images.

Where there is might, there is right. This phrase is coming very true at the moment. America is waging a proxy war against Iran and waiting for them to indulge in war. They are experts in creating such a situation where a regime does some mistake and will be destroyed completely. This is what US is all about. Last time they used Iraq to destroy Iraq, this time using Isreal to destroy the whole of middle east. Countries of the Middle East wake up please .........................

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/07/25/ireland.psalms.ap/ "The book was found open to a page describing, in Latin script, Psalm 83, in which God hears complaints of other nations' attempts to wipe out the name of Israel." Psalm 83 1 Keep not thou silence, O God: hold not thy peace, and be not still, O God. 2 For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head. 3 They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones. 4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance. 5 For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee: ... 13 O my God, make them like a wheel; as the stubble before the wind. ... 15 So persecute them with thy tempest, and make them afraid with thy storm.

He must be indicted.

To answer Pinnocchio's question if we as lebanese christians, if we support hizbullah? my answer is this: 1.Before this war, we shared with hezbullah his objectives: free the shebaa farm lamd and free the lebanese prisoners from israel's jails. But we did not share his strategy, his affiliation. 2. As lebanese christians we never felt rage against israel specially that we had fought next to you against the palestinians during the past lebanese war. 3. NOW, the situation is completely different. The lebanese christians along with the muslims freed lebanon from the syrians. they reconcilied with hezbullah on some terms, that we should find a solution for hizbullah to GIVE up his arms and not DISARM him by force in no circumstance. There was a very good relation between the christians and the shiites in the last months before this war. 4. Israel thought that that we will revolte against hizbullah and disarm them ourselves. On the other hand now we are supporting hizbullah!!

Isn't Iran a heaven place for Lebanese. And about Lebanese christian, they can go Armenia where Lebanese christians came from there originally. Who knows it could be for the best.

If they are legitimately 'defending Lebanon' then why do they exist as a seperate entity to the Lebanese army???? They are supplied not by Lebanese sources but by foreign governments. You live in the States.If Canada had a militia army working near the American border and supplied by a adversary government to America,would that be acceptable? and how about if that army would attack the northern border and kill and capture some Americans,then what?

What goes around comes around mate....Just remember hitting unarmed civilains is COWARDLY! Whoeer it is...Great insight...

You should understand that any war will result on catualities and be prepared for more. There was no a single reason to attack Lebanon and as Sayed Hassan said " not only our people will be killed". There is a far big difference between al Qaedah and Hassan, Alqaedah attack for no reason and Hassan defends for his Country.

Because then you have an excuse not to end the occupation.

Have Israelis ever conducted targetted assassinations on hezbolla militans in Lebannon since they left? I hear claims from Hezbolla but there seems to be no source.

i think you got me! that's not very funny though! are you using Arabic, Muslim names and writing this rubbish in order to say that we (Lebanese) are against Hizbullah! well, if you mean on day 1, then maybe, we only disagreed with them but are not against them but after all what happened, oh no! we strongly support them and wish them all the best and are praying day and night for them to be victorious and destroy as much as possible of the enemy!

Hezbolah fight like cowards. Putting their rockets near civilian cntres. They then complain about civilian casualties. They hold their own people hostage to Israeli gunfire. Max

who want to knwo thw truth shall read for himself and not depend on other people opinion . after israel invaded lebanon in 1982 hizzbolah come alive as resisten movment to defend their country , they has nothing to do with sunni muslim and al qaedah and they are not supported by saudi arabia nor egypt . they are lebaness people from shi`t sect who vows to defend their country against the agression on israel . Now if you call them terrorist ( which till not do not understand what does that word mean ) for defending their land who is not a terrorist . i think theses word become like a car sticker or a label can be sticked to anyone anytime anyhow anyone anyreason anyplace . if i dont like OH you are a terrorist . Shame on humanity

If beirut is hit my dear .. no israely in the world would be safe .. i promise you that .. Better you wish for peace and stop thinking that Lebanese will back down coz we will not..Didn't you guys learn from previous wars?? You want to fight with all ur neighbors ? Israel has been in a state of war since it was created in the 1948.. dont you ask urself why ? As a very famous israely once wrote a book called "Israel en danger de Paix" .. israel in danger of peace.. coz israel will dissolve so its in your goverment's intention to keep the war going .. cheers mates !

Gee Alex thanks for flanning the flames of war. Unfortuently its the residents of Tel Aviv will suffer not you sitting comfortably in New York playing arm chair soldiers.

I don't understand why you refuse Ahmed altogether? Does war makes you see all non-jews enemies? Do you know what is this called ...

Canadian man. If Israel returned Sheba Farms (which by the way is Syrian land) and released prisoners then Hezbollah would simply find a new pretext to continue the struggle. If they don't continue the "struggle" then Iranian funds and support would dry up. Without these funds they can't undertake all the charitable causes that buys them the support of the Shite underclass and they can't keep the military infrastructure which gives them real power over the legitamte lebanese government. Not only that but Israel giving things up would only fuel the confidence of it's enemies. Arabs militants would be left energized and wanting more! Your ideas are beautiful and nice but unfortunately you are dellusional.

Johny, if you call what happened in Lebanon till now a cleaning up of your country, then you must be from the Israeli side of the b order, really not Lebanese. I notice that the war propaganda is on high alert now! No need for argumentation with you after all the destruction in Beirut and the South, which you "sweetly" call "cleaning up".

We don`t need Ahmeds to declare what we should do in our war against your people. If we catch you, we will not ask you if you were the one who was so softly speaking on this postings. We will clear you all to gether with Hizbollah!

As one of the majority of the Palestinian who are looking for peace option # 1 is the logical & sensible. But who cares from the other side (Israeli) This war will never end as long as Israel keeps denying the fact of occupation imposed on almost 3 million palestinian in the GAZA & WEST BANK. Get to the logics and resolve the problem from the root, don't cure the consequencies.

Regardless of who will win this war, Israel is more hated now than ever before from the public Arabs and maybe the world except the dear U.S. Israel is implanting and growing the wrong seeds if I could say. Everyday person who has lost a loved one will be a new Hassan Naserallah and this conflict will never stop. I am sad that I see many comment like these ?kill them all? and ?hit them hard?, although I know it stems from anger. You might kill the tree but the roots will stay and they will grow again later. STOP THIS WAR, each side has said his point so clear at this point. Exchange prisoners and finish the Israeli Palestinian conflict and live in peace with each other. How long is this going to last!!!

From my viewpoint, Lebanese citizens had the capacity to vote for those who would take a harder stance against Hizbollah. The leader(s) chosen, chose to allow them to keep their arms, chose to allow them (not the Lebanese Army) to patrol the Israel/Lebanon border, therefore they chose to allow the current crisis. Mea Culpa is not enough.

Indeed - I hadn't seen so much confusion and ignorance in people's minds in a long time. Out here, to the left and to the right, the trend is the same old sickening european appeasement mode - "oh, leave the fundamentalists alone, they have the right to be fundamentalists..." And only a thin slice of us can see the major fallacy involved - if they were to rule over the world, you could kiss any rights goodbye...

Without going into philosophical discussion about the word "Humiliation", let me tell you that there is a huge difference between the examples you gave and the facts that Arab and Islamic nations are enduring. The US invaded Iraq, there is some humiliation on it but also killing, rapping, taking innocnt people to jail... humiliation is is not only the leno show on TV !! humiliation is what palistinians are enduring .. people living in cages like animals... whe you see you relatives dying in front of you... when you can not answer you childs questins: why do they do this to us ?? this is HUMILIATION... once the US fougt ENGLAND for their independency and to avoid Humiliation... French and English did the same agaisnt Nazi... You can not take this right from people fighting for their freedom, their lands and their prisonners.

Please inform yourself before speaking

i hope the army did not use the submarines they got from germany in this attack on lebanon, because in your 'logic' that would imply an act of direct war against lebanon by germany. now, the weapons from the us of a the army used...o.k.,i guess, that at least the politically extreme arabs already think that israel is an expansion of american interests (or something equivalent).

Humiliation doesn't mean saying bad words through the Midea, Arabs mean by humiliation the over 10000 men & women at the Israelis jails, the arab's land taken by Israel from lebanon, Syria and palstine. I'd like here to let you know that most of the prisoners were 10Years old when then they've been taken.

Please see how the reality is on the ground (http://www.fromisraeltolebanon.org/)... diplomatic talks are the solution...hate must be vanished... if you can't do it, at least teach your children.

I find it amazing when statements such as the IDF has still not been able to stop the rockets raining down, etc., are made. This of course is true, but anyone with any sense would realize it is precisely because the IDF are trying to cause as little damage as possible to the Lebanese civilian population, that this war is taking so long to finish. It could have all been over in possibly 2-3 days, had Israel wanted to go in at full strength. And still the world is outraged at Israel's response. Amazing.

Was withdrawing from Shebaa Farms and releasing three lebanese prisoners - one of them has been in prison for 28 years - better and less costly for Lebanese and Israeli alike or having this brutal and expensive war?

All these blogs are full of military phantasies and moral arguments. No one are discussing the extremely serious prospects for the Middle East coming closer for every day of fighting. Hezbollah and Hamas are creatures created by earlier Israeli actions (the disaster in 1982 created Hezbollah) and even deliberate support (Hamas was supported to curb secular Palestinians). In train with US actions in Iraq, the hardening of Islamist resistance is difficult to avoid. The last issue of Newsweek (with the telling frontpage text "MELTDOWN") has a thorough analysis of the problems of the US lack of strategy.

So they are gluttons for punishment. They know the can't win a war against Israel. Yet they come back for more. Don't you think they are masochist?

I'm getting more and more curious about the reasoning behind Israel's latest adventure. How exactly does this state intend to survive in the long run? The strategic position of Israel has worsened drastically over the past weeks. This war is effectively already lost for Olmert and friends. Hezbollah doesn't really need to bomb Tel Aviv. All Israelis are by now convinced that it could actually happen - something they thought impossible only two weeks ago.

But instead of smashing our society model and trying to find a new way mixing our history and the occidental model most arabs are looking for scapegoats..these scapegoats are usa israel israel is a wonderful scapegoat for regimes like egypt syria jordan... look at what happen when religious try to rule in the case of stem cell research and Bush and multiply that by a 1000 you will understand what is happening to our countries.

in order to understand this feeling of humilation one have to understand two key points. The first one is that the islamic world have dominated half of the whole world for many many centuries and when you look at the current situation and what was in the past as an arabic you feel crazy and humiliated. But you 'll answer me romans spanish ...have also dominated the world for many centuries so what???? A second key point is religio. The religion is intertwined in every aspects of the life it's a political system as it is a social system. So on one hand you have muftis mollahs telling you that "you are the selected people of the world that islam is the final and most complete revelation. there is nothing more greater than islam that you don't need to search for a better life if you are in the islam way...." and on the other hand in our countries most people don't have enough food don't have enough freedom the situation is awful....so you need to find scapegoats.

Israel should demand unconditional surrender from Hezbollah before its lets the civilians back in. Symbolism is important or the Hez will claim victory and rain even more deadly rockets on to Israel in the future

the IDF needs to be courageous enough this time and finish the job. half solutions have brought instability to Lebanon and it's time a full solution is implemented. The solution is not to negotiate with Syria and Iran (like the US did before), exterminate Hizbulah's weapons and infrastructure. Kill their leaders and stop all their resources. Lebanon needs peace. So does Israel. Lebanon can;t find Hizbulah, but Israel can. Lebanon is also shedding blood through those innocent civilians that are bombed mistakenly. So now Lebanese and Israelis are shedding blood for the same cause for the first time. Yes for peace. No for war. Yes for co-existence. No for destruction. IDF shouldn't stop until Hizbulah is finished, other wise, all those efforts are for nothing. if you stop now, Hizbulah will grow stronger, much stronger. they need to win to recruit more people and get more weapons and they don't care about my Lebanon. Please finish them.

While I wholly agree with you as to the primary target of his message, I think he has no intention whatsoever of downgrading the conflict. I do, in fact, see the hand of Ahmadinedjad (see his latest communication about "reaping what you sow", just one day ago) supporting Nasrallah's tone.

Something that does not kill you makes you stronger. In my opinion, Israel has two options. 1) Go for a long term truly balanced peace in the likes of a Geneva initiative 2) Totally crush its opponents, which probably means killing 75% of the palestinians at least. Short of that, I am very fearful of its destiny. I just hope option 1) will become evident to most as quickly as possible.

It was a shame when everybody learned that the Judge had been bribed to accuse Iran for the explosion in Buenos Aires!!! Oh! Of course Iran and Syria don't like Hezbollah to be disarmed because Zionists as international terrosrist and Al-Qaida as a terrosrist party have not been disarmed yet. Security Council has become a ridiculous thing which nobody is respecting-- neither US, nor Israel, no any other party or country in the world. It has become an instrument for the superpowers to offend all the free-thinkers of the world.

Just like Nasrallah, Olmert should threaten Beirut. And then follow through with it. Start with a Parliament building which sits Hezbollah ministers. Enough is enough.

Nasrallah's hot air has fogged his glasses and brain in his latest foolish adventure. Was he not aware that Israel now has a new primeminister and defence minister and a new hard-line response to terrorists toying with its borders? The harsh response in Gaza to the recent provocation should have been very clear writing on the wall for any terror leader entertaining such trysts. Obviously Nasrallah

Hezbollah as something which Israel lacks-- people who are ready to give everything they have and die. Of course, they try to resist the Zionists, with no fear of a possible death. Hehehe! This means winning the war. Shame on aretz iisrael! it cannot win a party.

Israel is only executing what the US has planed for a long time. They are creating more enemies by killing civilians. They are also losing their own people Losing more than 40 israelis to get 2 back is not at all a good idea. War does not solve anybody's problem. Of course the US do not care whether the 2 soldiers will be released or not but they are looking at their own interest.

Dear Ahmed: I am really sorry for all this mess but the hisbolah did not give any option. Israel wants peace and progress for the whole middle east. And you guys that are saying all these things: 100 years doing the same stupid thing and you do not go from the place, sometimes even acting like crabs, backing up. Instead of asking for the destruction of a very tiny country (Israel), why you do not try to administrate the HUGE land that G'D gave to you. Try to educate your children instead of making them sharridin, put universities and factories and the money of the oil to be used to good things and not to your corrupted politicians, that are the real enemies. Dear Ahmed: the day that all this mess is finished, you are invited to visit Israel and you can see that the arab israelis have the best way of living in the average of the whole middle east and you will see that we want Lebanon to be a GREAT country!!!!!!!

Does that mean you support Hezbullah?

His broadcast occurred at 1.30 a.m. local time. It was not directed at Israel therefore. Nasrullah directed it at George Bush, who he sees as the Commander-in-Chief of the whole campaign against him and a more worthy enemy since he discounted the Israeli pols. in his first speech directly after kidnapping the soldiers; where he said that the Israeli public believes him more than they believe their own elected leaders. He is asking for a ceasefire but under terms that will leave him with his dignity.

There are too many here are not interested in constructive dialog and want to just stick to the other. Let me start by saying you are a very polit, and sincere. Thank you.. I do agree with you there is a deep chord in the Arab world regaring Humiliation. In my opinion it stems from the fact they have not had any thing positive happen to them in their recent history. Losses after loses and combined with bad leaders, that they want to grab any small win for sake of pride. We crushed all of their armies combined, and we earned the title of being the strongest army in the region. In addition we also became very irogant, and you can see in our newspapers how brave we are, and how weak, and pathitic they are. For anyone to even dares to challange this will be normally seen as a hero regardless of morality. Nasser Allah is their Robin Hood, who was a theif but challanged the powerfull, and gave to the poor. it is inividable. Again thank you

There are too many here are not interested in constructive dialog and want to just stick to the other. Let me start by saying you are a very polit, and sincere. Thank you.. I do agree with you there is a deep chord in the Arab world regaring Humiliation. In my opinion it stems from the fact they have not had any thing positive happen to them in their recent history. Losses after loses and combined with bad leaders, that they want to grab any small win for sake of pride. We crushed all of their armies combined, and we earned the title of being the strongest army in the region. In addition we also became very irogant, and you can see in our newspapers how brave we are, and how weak, and pathitic they are. For anyone to even dares to challange this will be normally seen as a hero regardless of morality. Nasser Allah is their Robin Hood, who was a theif but challanged the powerfull, and gave to the poor. it is inividable. Again thank you

Your mask is slipping. Better adjust it quickly before they see.

1."giving back" Shebaa Farms is not as simple as it seems. You have to talk to Syria about it. They own them and they have to decide about their disposition. 2. If your government paid ransom to kidnappers you would be the first to tell them that it encouraged further kidnapping.

It's the bottom line for negotiation.

The sins of the Jews are remembered and lied about and added to. The rest is forgotten or packed away conveniently.

if Sheikh Nasrallah says smth,he does it .He said long time ago that he will take capture soldiers IDF to exchange for lebanese prisoners & he did it

Finally. I decent voice from Lebanon. You are roght. Israel had for many years very good relations with Lebanese Christians, It is the moslem groups who can not tolerate that and in the mean time the Christians in Lebanon are sufering. In Mexico Lebanese and Jewish people have the best relations,some people say that Between these two groups hold Mexican Economy. This is a great example of friendship fdor a common goal, with peace.

...He said Hezbollah had expected "the usual, limited response" from Israel..." From Israel point of view, her responses are limited, even though 400 hundreds Lebanon civilians had died in vain. Benyamin Netanyahu said: If we wanted, we can flatten Beirut to the ground in a few days.

I agree with you. In 1987 Hamas was created as a result of the harsh conditions the occupation created in the occupied territories. In 1982 Israel invaded Beirut to drive out the PLO, then considered worse than Hezbollah is viewed today. As a result of such invasion and occupation, Hezbollah was created. Now they will probably drive away Hezbollah, or maybe deliver hard blow to them, but as you said others will probably come along due to the brutality of the Iron Fist philosophy. Israel has used the Iron Fist method since it's inception (and before). It has never gotten it's people peace of mind (let alone peace). If Israeli leadership indeed wants peace, why is it none has risen to the occasion to do "real negotiations" and "show good will for peace" such as accepting the Arab Peace Initiative of 2002? Israeli leadership may not give a crap about Arabs, no matter who, but the real question is "Do they give a damn about their own children, or future sons and daughters?"

May you prevail in restoring peace to your Country. Our prayers are with you. Charles

Then Georges join the Hezballah marches and make the usual fascist salute with the stretched right arm and hand. It's so disgusting to see and most Westeners would spit them right in the face if they could. There should be no sympathy with the fascist, only with the innocent civilian victims. The war has to end quickly, but the fascist must be completely up-rooted from Lebanese society sooner or latter. They bring shame on your country and on the name of the Almighty.

1. Some Lebanese citizens voted hezbollah members into office. Some joyously attend huge rallies for them. Some are them. Those who aren't should fight them or leave. 2. Hezbollah (and radical islam) doesn't believe christians, jews, etc can be humiliated because the are already inferior. Wake up. They're the new KKK and everyone else is a nigger to them. 3. Iran backs Hezbollah. Iran wants to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. Iran wants nukes. Iran (through Hezbollah) has effectively taken control of Syria and Lebanon. Iran now has a direct line to send nukes into Isreal. Isreal already knows people are willing to turn a blind eye to that. They learned that during world war II.

as a lebanese christian, i would to state my support to our patriotic resistance in the south. We, as lebanese, are all united and will fight any foreign agressor. Israel's attack is an agression on all lebanese people and not only on hezbullah ou shiites only.

Let all the sane people get together and eliminate Islamic terror from every aspect of our lives. No country deserves Islamic terror be it Israel, India, China, USA, Phillipines,UK etc etc. Let us pledge not to be cowed down by Islamists and crush them whenever and wherever we can. The world has had enough of Islamo-fascists.

Reading this article was hard to do, simply because it is the mentality of a the terrorists that infilttate into positions by countries that mean definite harm to those the terrorists hurt. They actually think they are untouchable because of their connections.. and when their connections don't come to their rescue then they whine they didn't "expect" such an overwhelming response. Hezbollah, you don't expect this response after firing rockets into Israel and coming over the border and kidnapping soldiers? Well then, Surprise surprise, and be ready for more suprises if you do not turn tail and RUN!

This has nothing to do with Judaism! www.jewsforpeace.org Plenty of euro/american Jewish ANTI ZIONIST jews out there, Plenty of Jews happy living in Iran despite the made up propoganda that their not.... Marcus get real.

I am arab and i will replay to you but sorry for my english because i use only arabic and french language. Do you remeber when israel army fired civilians in Gaza beatch killing many innocent civilians ? do you remeber when israel army fired Mohamed adorra ( a kid with his father) ? do you remember when israel army fired UN building in QANA killing hundreds of womens and kids? do you know there is 10 000 arabs in israel jails ( womens and kids included) ? do you know shebaa farms , syrian Golan still under occupation even there is many UN resolutions !? No one in this world is asking Israel about all this but only they ask Hezbollah for two soldiers. Humilation isn't only words!!! Well, now H. Nasrallah says he wont give Israel their soldiers before ceasse fire and negociations and if Israel want more fire Hezbollah will target -" what is after Haifa"), mean if he accept Israel and USA resolutions it will be an humiliation for arabs. ( ceasse fire and negociations)

This man is quite demented and has absolutely amoral. Now that he is losing and knows it, he threatens Israel with longer range missiles (Post an Ynet) Haaretz has not run the story yet. His behavior is to grasp at anything to cause more damage, without any scruples, before his time in history is over. People have asked what this would acheive, nothing really except to cause more suffering and just plain evil spitefulness. Israel should not ignore this threat, this man probably does have some last ditch weapon that he has saved to use at a time of his demise.He is a monster.

Your an insane israeli, or just a heartless salmon rushdie boy

I appreciate both of your feedback and think both make valid points. However, I think we need to go one layer deeper and examine the potential outcomes that would lead to Hezbollah's "humiliation." In my opinion, any, and I mean ANY, deal, agreement, swap, etc. will be viewed as an unconditional Hezbollah victory and would not be subject to any humiliation or embarassment. Thus, I believe this "humiliation" statement, which Tony points out strikes a deep chord in Arabs, is actually a synthetic way of saying that the soldiers will never be released and that the fight will continue. Either way, if they fight or if they make a deal, Hezbollah maintains the pride of the supportive Arab world. I would be interested to hear either of your opinions on this.

true, they've done that, but what I'm saying is that they could've done a lot more if that was their MAIN objective.

Hizballah put its foot in its mouth with this latest military adventure.

We know you are jewish and maybe israelian.

Ali Israel will not abolish the Hizballah. It will destroy it! And to all the Jew haters, you can all kiss the Jewish grits.

Nasrallah is the consummate poltico. He oversells the things that sell his cause and undersells those that damage it. Take the fact that he is for sure understating the casualties his fighters are taking. Only 20 killed? Nasrallah is living in a dreamworld. The IDF is currently making his fighters in southern Lebanon die for his cause, and more to come. You can only believe part of what comes out of his mouth. Which part? Ah, thats the question.

Israels success is the success of those billions who beleive in the sanctity of human life and the right to choose their way of life. Israels failure is our doom. Nasrallah and his loonies must be made to understand that Israel is not interestedin their surrender but their complete extermination. This species of rabid animals must not be allowed to live and fight another day. For our future, for the future of our children.

The logic is simple - their most fundamental belief is that Allah broke covenant with Jews for their transgressions and started a new one with Moslems. If Jews are winning in a war with Moslems, then something is wrong with that statement and it shakes the basis of their faith.

Hey you idiot at least respect your country. shame on you

Actually, Hizbollah is not shy, and they did blow up the Jewish cultural center in Buenos Aires, Argentina, and the Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia.

Western countries, and indeed the world are "saturated" with the Islam directive. Which is of course, jihad against any non- Islamic country regardless. Europe, easily conquered, is already knuckling under, as they cannot control thier fanatics, so dictate that Israel should let them run wild too. To this I say NO! Israel is not Europe, and should not adhere to Europe's surrender now, seek help later policy!

Would any 1 believe that Hizbollah had all this power b4 the war started?? Would any 1 believe Haifa would get bombed like that? would any 1 believe that 19+Israelly soldiers would die and 29+ injured? would any 1 believe that Hizbollah is gona win??? How ever every 1 knows how Monstorous and Civilian killing Israel is! Any way Israel got itself in trouble lets see it gets itself out.

think twice before a vist to a local market where there are islamic merchants. Do not purchase falafels from islamic vendor, check for your humus in a local supermarket, make sure it's not made in Lebanon. Gas for your car you can get from Haas or BP, or from Luk oil. It is 100% not from the arab countries. Become part of the international anti-islamic philosophy, to do your part in this conflict. You can find most of the information on the web.

No wonder the brothers/sons of the killed/wounded civilians will become guerillas. There's no way to stop this war ever if it goes on like this. We should also take into consideration how our children will live.

Yes,Hezbollah was responsible for the bombing of Amia in Buenos Aires,in july 1994,but the victims numbered 85 and not 270 as Allen says. Let's try to be accurate and handle information in a serious way.

Paul, you are confusing "humiliation" with insults (as in your examples).Arabs feel humiliated because Israel has won (almost) every time. They feel powerless in stopping them. And they are very keen of past history, when Arab armies once were truly feared in Europe. I agree with Mark that Arabs and Jews are motivated by similar feelings. It is sad that both are hostage to the same misconception: that the other side only understands force. (then again, I myself sometimes wonder whether that is true...)

Iran and Syria. Clearly, lebanese could never disarm Hesbollah. Israeli intense 2 weeks air strikes did not achieve that, you expect Lebanese government just fresh out of Syrian hegemony to do that? Bomb Tehran and Damascus, and you will see miracles. Otherwise, just settle for this agonizing no-end of conflict.

Buenos Aires attack was reprisal for the killing of previous Hezbollah head Moussawi. In my opinion, peace will never be achieved by force. Only by justice.

You're a smart and courageous man, Ahmed. You are one of only few who blame the correct people. And you are correct...the hezbollah created all this mess in your country. Thank you for being honest and telling it the way it is. I hope the best for you and your family.

The poor beleaguered Hezbullah armed only with small arms and a few rockets of no consequence. How could the Israeli government sanction such widespread killing. What possible reason could the IDf have for causeing so much destruction. I fear that these poor people will be wiped out. Hizbullah is misunderstood, they ar really not a violent anti ISrael terror group. They have a need to be needed and that is all. They kidnapped a ISraeli soldiers not thinking their actions would land them in so much trouble. please put them out of their misery. Bomb them to the stone ages. Kill them all, and let Allah sort them out

Hizballah is a terrorist org which calls for the destruction of the state of Israel and incites hatred towards us. There was a picture lately of children being trained by Hizballah and funnily enough their salute was the same as Hitlers. Shebaa farm if anything belongs to Syria and they are not willing to give up their right to this farm and hand it over to Lebanon. Until then the lebanese have no right to it. The hizballah terrorists in Israel jails are convicted murderers you are asking Israel to free murderers for peace. It doesn't work like that. Think before you act or suffer the consequences. Hizballah bit off more then they can chew hopefully and are suffering the consequences.

Most wars start due this "Humiliation Factor". Why do you think we are invading Lebanon again. Two possible answers " Humiliation Of IDF" factor, of losing 2 solidures, and of course had to react. Or I still think it is because our american masters asked us to do it to deflect "Humiliation of US army in Iraq", and of course we obliged. I am not sure we are much different regarding this "Humiliation" from Arabs. End of the day we are paying for it dearly with rockets on our houses in the North.

When they say Israeli interest will be distroyed they mean every Jew. If they win you dont have to be in shul to be killed They will use the excuse you walked in the street or had the nerve to get up in the morning. Have you noticed how they march.

While I think it is important to uproot Hozbullah, and we shall, the truth to be told is we have been doing the same thing for years. Our planes make incursions dialy into Lebanon. There is no difference. One can claim they also had a reason for ligitmate war. The problem I have is with our leaders not preparing the country for a show down. All Northren part of the country is under attack, and we are being asked to pay for the alrams ourselves, and now Hizbuallah is expanding south of Hifa, perhpas Tel Aviv or further. So now we all move to Najef while bloaded IDF figures it out. We won wars before beacuase of prepration and the need for self defense. I do not think this one qulifies. kidnapping 2 IDF, does not threaten us. It was orders from our American masters to hit them, to deflect pressure from their failures in Iraq. Nothing more and nothing less, and therefore the rushed response leaving our cities open to attack

While I think it is important to uproot Hozbullah, and we shall, the truth to be told is we have been doing the same thing for years. Our planes make incursions dialy into Lebanon. There is no difference. One can claim they also had a reason for ligitmate war. The problem I have is with our leaders not preparing the country for a show down. All Northren part of the country is under attack, and we are being asked to pay for the alrams ourselves, and now Hizbuallah is expanding south of Hifa, perhpas Tel Aviv or further. So now we all move to Najef while bloaded IDF figures it out. We won wars before beacuase of prepration and the need for self defense. I do not think this one qulifies. kidnapping 2 IDF, does not threaten us. It was orders from our American masters to hit them, to deflect pressure from their failures in Iraq. Nothing more and nothing less, and therefore the rushed response leaving our cities open to attack

The Lebaneeze are responsible because they have not been willing to shed their own blood to rid their own country of the terrorists. They are no better than the terrorists and are to blame for the destruction of their own country.

No wonder Hezbollah was surprised with the force of Israel's recent attacks within Lebanon. The past several years Israel has done what western countries have done, appease, and stroke, the demanding Islamic world. I long for the day when western countries become saturated with the continual Islamic threats, both overt and subtle, and say enough to their demands. Then the Islamic world throughout the west can be just as surprised as Hezbollah is right now.

thank you for protecting and fighting for our country. G-d bless you all.

Civilians don't have weapons. Even the Lebanese army isn't strong enough to disarm hezbollah. Heck, it's not even a cake walk for the IDF to get rid of them, so I can't see a civilian telling some rough looking guys with guns to "get off my lawn"

If that's all they want, then they can simply go to any city in the world, walk in to a Synagogue and shoot. I'm sure they don't mind if Jews die unfortunately, but I don't think that's their main aim. If Israel takes away excuses for Hezbollah to attack by leaving Shebaa farms and giving back prisoners and they keep attacking, then Israel would receive a lot more support from the international community. On the other hand if giving them Shebaa farms and their prisoners back satisfies them, then the region would be a lot more peaceful.

My goodness! Please accept the deepest apologies of the Jewish people across the whole wide world. Dear terrorist friends: Be surprised. Be very surprised! I only hope your worst surprises are exceeded in the coming days. Again, so sorry about that. Don't take it too personally. We really didn't mean for you to get too upset. Really, we didn't.

Israel can't Abolishing hezbolla.Now 14 day when the war started and Israel can't stop Rockets Falling .

As one living far away from the conflict, without any direct stake in terms of relatives, etc, I see this conflict in the following lines: It is true that Israel had aggressive intent all along against Hizbollah which humiliated IDF in 2000. It is true also that Israel never withdrew from lands it conquered and colonised, claiming Biblical right. It is also true that without USA's overt encouragement, Israel would not annihilate a whole population. It is true that without USA's ruling war-mongering elite, Israel would be easily defeated by Hizbollah. The people of Israel should now be tired of the endless war the Israeli Azhkenazi elite wages on neighbours and the racist policies internally. The elite in Israel very much would like to call itself Democracy. What is the worth of the democracy if the country occupies and brutalised another civilisation ?

yes you're right, it would have been better for the average Lebanese citizen, but the suffering of the poor people is the responsibility of both, hezbollah AND Israel; One for starting it, and one for bombing them. Furthermore, don't you think it would have been better for both sets of civilians(Isr, Leb) if Israel had simply swapped prisoners and took away more excuses for Hezbollah to continue their aggression? Maybe Israel could have requested an international force to help the Lebanese government disarm Hezbollah soon after...But wouldn't you think that Israel's lack of response would have perceived as a "humiliation" and a sign of weakness? I'm guessing that's what Hezbollah fears, so it's a struggle for power as it has always been throughout the ages.

Your honesty is eye opening. The world should take not

Allen, I do agree with you that Hezbollah is more dangerous than AlQaeda or even than Hamas, but the bombing of the AMIA building in Buenos Aires on july 18, 1994, only two years after the israeli embassy was demolished by a terrorist atack, costed the life of 85 persons, including many catholics despite most of the victims were jewish argentines.

Hezbollah declared war on Israel the minute it had kidnapped the soldiers, and I therefore support Israel to the full extent for their current actions.

If Lebanese civilains allow Hezbollah terrorists to shoot rockets at Israel from their back yards and neighbohrhoods, or store rockets in their households, then they are as much to blame and as guilty as the terrorists.

Hezbollah's only objective is to murder Jews. Not end the Israeli occupation of Lebanon, but instead to fight the occpation of the Jews in the world.

and the other 10% just dont care

At last someone remembers that Hezbollah has been responsible for large scale terrorism away of Israel. The two bombs in Buenos Aires, were a first show of what they are after. So we have to be hard to them.

Thank you for liberating my country and I support you until the end.

I would appreciate it if an Arab reader/responder would please clarify for me the apparent Arab obsession with "humiliation." Jews are humiliated on a daily basis by the Arab media; George Bush was humiliated just last week by Vladimir Putin; the Catholic Church is continuously humiliated by the American and European left; Americans are often humiliated by the European media. But none of these people are advocating suicidal attacks against the innocent civilians of their humiliators. And, separately, isn't a little ironic that a "group of the people" like Hezbollah would rather its people be displaced and suffer casualties than have Hezbollah suffer "humiliation."

ISRAEL PLEASE DO CHEMOTHERAPY TO MY COUNTRY!!!

PLEASE HIT THEM AND HIT THEM HARD!!!!!

Hezbollah is turning my country into garbage. The ones who I put the ONLY blame for this, NOT the MAIN blame is on Hezbollah. My aunt was almost killed last week by an Israeli missile in Beirut and I lay the blame soley on Hezbollah for this. Hezbollah has ruined my country even before Israel invaded, and if my government did not OR does not want to clean up my country and Israel does it instead then I openly welcome it!

Israel is JUST if it strikes civlian areas and populations if they DELIBERATELY harbor Hezbollah terrorists.

Hezbollah is AQaeda

As Nasrallah threatens to strike south of Haifa, suddenly Hadera, Netanya, Tel-Aviv and Ben-Gurion Airport feel the wind. If this, heaven forbid, should occur it will most undoubtably change the rules of engagement once again. At this point, what can Israel do except hit Syria & Iran? Maybe the US would serve its own intersts by warning Syria & Iran that if rockets & missiles head south of Haifa, then this will be taken as an act of direct war by Syria & Iran, and action would be forthcomming. Otherwise, Israel's deterrent capability will really be tested.

See what happens when you're soft on terrorists? They expected Israel's usual tepid response, but they got walloped instead, and it doesn't look like it will stop anytime soon. Next time, they will think twice about starting up with Israel! Keep it up, Olmert, and you'll shed your soft newbie image!

Yes lets negotiate with these guys. NOT

In Buenos Aires Hezbollah killed 86 people in blowing up AMIA building with a car bomb. I hope that Hezbollah never never again could carry again such criminal attempts.

Hezbollah is worst than AlQaeda. Hamas for example targets Israeli civilian inside Israel and or the West Bank. AlQaeda one can say targets Israelis abroad for example Mombasa, Kenya or targets in the Sinai Peninsula. But Hezbollah went out of its way to target a Jewish Community center in Argentina where 270 Jew civlian were killed. They didn't target that location to kill civilians in Israel or they didn't even commit this act to kill Israelis abroad it was simply a percise pinpoint surgical attack to target and kill as may Jews as possible.