Mitchell to meet with Netanyahu as U.S. relaunches peace drive
Obama's peace envoy met Thursday with Ehud Barak, Avigdor Lieberman, and President Shimon Peres.
By The Associated Press Tags: Middle East peace Israel newsWashington's Middle East envoy launched a new effort Thursday aimed at restarting Israeli-Palestinian peace negotiations, just as President Obama expressed pressimism about the prospects.
Already complicating envoy George Mitchell's mission was a new demand by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for an Israeli military presence in the West Bank to stop weapons smuggling, even after formation of a Palestinian state.
Mitchell met Thursday with Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak, Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman and President Shimon Peres. He was scheduled to see Netanyahu later Thursday.
As Mitchell began his mission, his boss, Obama, admitted he overreached in the Mideast.
In an interview with Time Magazine published Thursday, Obama said internal conflicts made it hard for the Israelis and Palestinians to restart talks, "and I think that we overestimated our ability to persuade them to do so when their politics ran contrary to that."
He said Israel "found it very hard to move with any bold gestures," while Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas had "Hamas looking over his shoulder."
Obama concluded, "I think it is absolutely true that what we did this year didn't produce the kind of breakthrough that we wanted and if we had anticipated some of these political problems on both sides earlier, we might not have raised expectations as high."
Before meeting Peres, Mitchell pledged to soldier on. He said Obama's vision is a Palestinian state alongside Israel in peace. "We will pursue (that) until we achieve that objective," Mitchell said.
The envoy is set to meet with Palestinian officials in the West Bank on Friday.
Mitchell has been laboring without success for a year to get both sides back to the negotiating table, and Netanyahu's new demand made his mission even tougher.
Netanyahu said Israel must maintain a presence "on the eastern side of a prospective Palestinian state" to keep militants from using the territory to launch rockets at Israel's heartland.
The eastern side of such a state would be the part of the Jordan Valley that lies in the West Bank.
Abbas aide Nabil Abu Rdeneh rejected the demand. "The Palestinian leadership will not accept a single Israeli soldier on Palestinian land after ending the Israeli occupation," he told The Associated Press.
The Palestinians have refused to sit down with Israel until it stops all construction in the West Bank and east Jerusalem, saying it is eating up lands they claim for their future state. Israel, which captured both areas in 1967, has slowed settlement construction in the West Bank, but has applied no restrictions in east Jerusalem, which Netanyahu hopes to retain.
Israel also says negotiations should begin immediately with no conditions, but the Palestinians accuse Israel of heaping plenty of conditions of its own, including the demilitarization of a future Palestinian state, the retention of east Jerusalem and now, a military presence along Jordan's border.
The Israeli leader heads a coalition largely opposed to the sweeping territorial concessions that would be necessary to clinch a peace deal with the Palestinians. He himself had long refused to endorse the concept of Palestinian statehood, doing so only in June under intense U.S. pressure.
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Mitchell comes with nothing new but a simple renewal calling for the suicide of the State of Israel. Throughout the whole "peace initiative," the only party making any concessions has been the Israelis. The PA can continue to whine and whimper and espouse their own propaganda to win the hearts of a liberal media and buy their influence, while they make no concessions what so ever. They still refuse to recognize Israel as a legitimate state, and the still see any "peace plan" as just one more phase in their agenda to remove Israel period.
There will be no peace until the leadership of Israel actually declares that there is something holy and that there are lines that will not be crossed. We have never done this. Until we do, our counterparts will keep taking whatever we give and demanding more.
What a fool, what an idiot, what a Maroon. Almost a year ago Benjamin Netanyahu, Prime Minister of Israel, told Obama there would be no peace, with anyone, no way. Then Netanyahu went home to Israel and told the public - and the world - that he had blown off Obama and told him where he could stuff his "peace." Obama didn't see it necessary to admit to, rather than stand up to, the racist affront. Øbama seems to have a problem with reality. When someone shits upon Obama the guy doesn't get it. When that person craps upon him repeatedly Obama doesn't get it. When another national leader launches a propaganda campaign intended to destroy him, Obama doesn't get it. Got it?
Do you now have any doubts that Israel has absolutely no interest in peace? IDF presence in the WB after any peace process??? Israel is no more and no less a nation than any other and when there ever is a peace , Palestine will be no more and no less a nation than any other. Israel will never understand this basic fact. Bibi is a lying man and he has not made public even 50% of what he truly believes in. With more republicans being voted into congress, the abolishment of the McCain-Feingold law today (which will lead to more republican victories), Bibi will stall the peace process more and more. Dirty politics, paid in part by the Israel lobby, as usual.
... vis-a-vis peace, he has no intention of emabarking on such a promising avenue... ... after all, it may even end in a fully-fledged Pal state... gevalt!... ... as for this new condition re the border with Jordan, why not UN peace-making troops?... ... why not the Jordanians and the Pals themselves?... they would be just as keen as Israel to uphold peace and the integrity of the border...
Didn't Mitchell know that Israel was not Ireland? He is wasting his and our time and money. Israel never intends to give up any land it took illegally or settlements built illegally. (Why? Because when backed into a corner regarding the illegality of the situation, they counter with "god gave it to us.") One cannot argue with that point of view, so we should give up "mediating" and let Israel sink or swim in it's own designs. Also we should give up aid, UN resolution vetoes, and disband AIPAC as an arm of a foreign power. Enough is enough. (By the way, Israel is no democracy: it is a theocracy in everything but the name it gives itself.)
no matter what is said or planned there is no solution to our existance as long as Liberman is in position to torpedo no matter what.