MI Chief: Israel's success battling terror has turned world against us

I don't know whom you are trying to mislead, but John 15:19 was written by John the apostle and was a reference to Jesus addressing his disciples. It has absolutely nothing to do with Jews or Israel. If you are trying to make the point that God gave the land of Canaan, also known at the time as Palestine, to the Jews, you should also remember Judges 2:21-23, "In the future I will not evict any of the nations that Joshua left in the land when he died." One of the people left in the land when Joshua died was the semite nation of the Jebusites. The Jebusites had already built Jerusalem when the Israelites crossed the river Jordan into Canaan, and they inhabited the city for 100 more years. There are noted scholars and historians who maintain that the Jebusites are the forbears of the Palestinians.

I don't know whom you are trying to mislead, but John 15:19 was written by John the apostle and was a reference to Jesus addressing his disciples. It has absolutely nothing to do with Jews or Israel. If you are trying to make the point that God gave the land of Canaan, also known at the time as Palestine, to the Jews, you should also remember Judges 2:21-23, "In the future I will not evict any of the nations that Joshua left in the land when he died." One of the people left in the land when Joshua died was the semite nation of the Jebusites. The Jebusites had already built Jerusalem when the Israelites crossed the river Jordan into Canaan, and they inhabited the city for 100 more years. There are noted scholars and historians who maintain that the Jebusites are the forbears of the Palestinians.

Try gathering a bit of guts, go there and ask him face to face, instead of staying Stateside, pretending that you're concerned Just another back seat driver, who has a problem when someone tells the truth

The MI Chief is right, the world is turning against Israel, but not for the reason he cites. The world is sick and tired of Israeli violations of international laws. Are you unaware of the Spanish academic boycott of Ariel University. You must realize that numerous campaigns are developing around the world to protest the Israeli 42 year occupation of Palestinian territory, and against the building of settlements in the West Bank and the annexation of Jerusalem. All these activities are violations of international law, UN resolutions, and the 4th Geneva Convention, and thus war crimes. These protests, the UK trade unions boycott of Israeli goods,Turkish rejection of IAF in military exercise, the International Federation of Israeli Journalists dismissal by the International Federation of Journalists, , French Trade Union Solidaires Industries mounting Israeli boycott, divestment and sanctions campaigns, etc., are protests against policies of the State of Israel: not anti-semitism.

John 15:19 "If ye were of the world; the world would love his own, but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you", thus saith the LORD GOD of ISRAEL

Israel imposes institutional indignities on weak people. Those weak people react feably. Then Israel crushes them without mercy or conscience. That is not success in fighting terrorism. It is blatant terrorism coming from Israel. Only the most powerful nation in the Middle East can bring peace or it can continue terrorism. Israel needs to reevaluate its values rather than take pride it the violence it imposes on others.

The as it is now has turn a blind eye to the fact the land of Palestine is the bonafide property of the Jews.And if the Arab claim its theirs through conquest (Ottoman empire)then the Jews have conquered and reclaim it .Period. They can reoccupy it only after conquering it which is next to impossible even with the combine effort of all arabs .It is a prophecy from God and it's evidently clear.

"I would choose the IDF over any army in the world to protect me and my family and that goes for the U.S.armed forces" Don't you be slagging off the American army, Connie...I'd thought better of you than that!

Responsibility for the suffering inflicted upon Lebanon in 2006 and Gaza last year resides within Hezbollah?s kidnapping attack and Hamas?s incessant missile bombardment. The rules of law allow Israel to defend itself. Israeli fire is targeted, not indiscriminate. Civilians die because war is a cruel business. Since you only speak to other retrograde Marxists and ISM zombies, you may have an exaggerated sense of the truth and acceptance of your position.

Another of the absurd public statements from Israeli government officials, which often suggest they are participating in a collective self-brainwashing. The twisted logic of this particular statement could only make sense in Israel, where the government will contrive ANY justification for its continued oppression of the Palestinians. This man doesn't even believe what he is saying, but will say it anyway because it allows him (and the great majority of the Israeli people) to justify the criminal brutality of the IDF, the ongoing occupation and theft of Palestinian land, and the imprisonment of more than a million non-combatant civilians in Gaza.

The complaints against Israel isn't because THERE ARE NO TERRORIST ATTACKS, but because of Israel's HEAVY-HANDED TREATMENT OF THE PALESTINIANS. After all, the only terrorist attacks in Syria and Iran are those perpetrated by Israel, and yet NOBODY - but NOBODY - bases their criticism of those two countries on petty jealousy. Nor does Assad or Ahmadinejad demand a free-pass from the rest of the world because they are extremely efficiency at clamping down on threats to the ruling regime. You know, like Yadlin appears to be demanding. This is military intelligence at work, is it? How oxymoronic of him....

You occupy someoneelse's land, terrorise its population on a daily basis using road blocks, detentions, torture and white phosphorus, do not accept their democratically elected government, block their sea coast so that they cannot fish, bomb their tunnels which are the life line for survival of 1.5 million people. Now let me ask you this question who is terrorising who? Do you understand why the world does not like Israel? Where is all the intellegensia in Israel? It seems like only the morons seems to be getting to the decision making positions.

the actions of its occupation forces: the roadblocks, the blockade, the assassinations, its control of its unruly citizens, and its demand for one Palestinian life per day for the last twenty years.

Israel's own actions transform it into a pariah whose driving forces are not the liberal democratic values with which it claims to identify, but ultra-nationalism, racism, religious fanaticism, settler-colonialism and a Jewish supremacist order maintained by frequent massacres.The universalist cause of justice and liberation for Palestinians is gaining adherents and momentum especially among the young.Increasingly, we see that Israel's hasbara efforts have no positive message, offer no plausible case for maintaining a status quo of unspeakable repression and violence, and rely instead on racist demonisation and dehumanisation of Arabs and Muslims to justify Israel's actions and even its very existence.Israel increasingly resembles a morally bankrupt, apartheid, oppressive, racist, failed state, not a regime confident about its legitimacy and longevity.

This man is a raving lunatic.Israel's failed policies, apartheid oppression of the Palestinains people, warmongering, land and resource grabbing, racism, Cast Lead, illegal settler terrorist, illegal settlements, apartheid rampage in East J'lem, your war crimes and the sneaky, devious "peace" babblings by Bibi and your moldavian thug of an FM, not to mention you deliberate and ridiculous treatment of the Turkish government official are turning the world against Israel. Your doing it all by yourselves,you fools.

If your "intelligence" comes from facts that are distorted to suit an agenda, then it is not intelligence. Why don't you hire someone with a marketing degree to be your intelligence chief? His marketing skills are superb, but someone a little more devious would be more effective.

this has to be the biggest joke ever on haaretz.. is it april fools?

Their lives would turn around for the better, if they choose to seek and obey the true God.

make sure that you obey the true God.

to condemn Israel for defending against Rockets coming out of Gaza from the palestinians. The more Israel defends, the less effective the Rockets are, which is very discouraging for the Palestinians.

You can spin and argue tangentially for as long & as much as you like but Israel has succeeded where others have failed. That really hurts doesnt it.

the world is most assuredly not against israel for its success. i have zero empathy for Gazans and the blockade, nor the seperation barrier with the West bank...HOWEVER, i do have issues with settlements. stick to the plan, you dont need ot expand into the west bank and in fact you would benefit from their economic success. my aliyah is coming, dont make me cancel it.

In Lebanon Hezballah lied to get a ceasefire and thats when Israeli troops left. The Daily Star revealed the real Hezballah militia casualties.It does not match the heroic posturing of yourself or Nasrallah. Then again you always win dont you.

and they get technical expertise from Israel. Living in the parrallel universe you must have missed that most Pal attacks have been on Iraeli civillians all along and Hamas heroes chosing to fight amongst civillians without uniforms was sure to cause civillian casualties. The predictable result in line with their behaviour of sending their children out to confront troops with snipers behind them in the past. You lot are not as popular in the real world as you think you are.

Europeans are green with envy that they cannot do as Israel does. http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23795196-heathrow-staff-taught-new-way-to-spot-a-plane-bombers.do Instead they are forced to dance around the problem of terror and who commits it.Their politicians are slaves to political corectness and are unable to deal with terrorism. Impotence turns them against Israel. These same politicians are becoming laughing stocks with the voters. Read the talkback.

longer a refugee. B) how many of those 800,000 left voluntarily for the new state of Israel?

but Brainwashing Intelligence Service or a brainwashed intelligence chief, you can chose yourself.

"Not to worry--Israel has been in much worse spots before" - IW But in the past Israel did not have a government determined to alienate every ally and friend it has. In the past pragmatism not paranoia ruled,

One Palestinian life per day for the last twenty years. How do you measure success?

Thank you Haaretz for always letting the truth ring loud and clear.

"Yadlin also said that the Palestinian Authority's struggle against Hamas in the West Bank stems from its internal security needs and not from "a love of Israel." " Which Adam Smith would have cheered, as a proof that things are going in the right direction. They do it for their own interests, instead of altruist love. That's what much of Western society is build on, but the chief of Israel's MI doesn't even see it, and exactly therefore I start to believe it when being told that Israel right now faces an existential threat. And that treat is utmost worrisome.

The world expected Israel to rid it off Hamas but was deeply disappointed.just like the world wants to be relieved from Taliban and el Qaida. as long as these three exist Yadlin cannot claim success.

according to my sources you got your ass kicked hard, and all the goals you tried to achieve didn't happen, in fact the opposite, i know you israel soldiers very well through some people, you are chickens, thats why no one can even have a defense system, otherwise you really might encounter real resistance hey?.

Try giving something instead of taking. It might just surprise you. No conditions, no demands, just give.

Responsibility for the suffering inflicted upon Lebanon in 2006 and Gaza last year resides within Hezbollah?s kidnapping attack and Hamas?s incessant missile bombardment. The rules of law allow Israel to defend itself. Israeli fire is targeted, not indiscriminate. Civilians die because war is a cruel business. Since you only speak to other retrograde Marxists and ISM zombies, you may have an exaggerated sense of the truth and acceptance of your position.

Israels cheap propaganda does not work

Goldstone questioned the conduct of the IDF in Cast Lead. The Conduct. Not whether the war was justified, not whether Israel should exist, not whether Israel has a right to the land it is presently on. So ... who is questioning Israel's legitimacy again? Hamas? No one listens to Hamas. They are crazy. Fatah? No, Abbas is ready for the 1967 borders and has never called for the mandate Palestine borders. Iran? Yeah, okay, the Iranians are jerks. But who takes them seriously anymore? England? England has never called for Israel to be pushed into the sea. America? No, Obama hasn't called for anything really.

God of Israel & Yeshua HaMessiah IS the reason for Israel's terrorist success. It is God who gives Israel breathe & strength... it is Yeshua's peace & love. It is also the millions of Christians praying day & night all over the world for Israeli military wisdom & protection that also moves the hand & heart of God.

exploded in TA and elsewhere...

Israel is deep into a psychotic episode where it is convincing itself that the whole world is out to get it. Israel knows what the problem is, it's THEM, THEY ALL HATE ISRAEL, even Israel's allies are part of the VAST CONSPIRACY to HATE ISRAEL by the ENTIRE WORLD. Israel had better get a grasp upon itself and start coping with reality and dealing with it's Paranoid Delusions.

Dear cj, Have I read this right?!... taking other folk land... and this is coming from an Aurtrlian...Have you seen how you treat the natives??Please you should be the last to preach on this subject

When Israel pulled out of Gaza and Lebanon, they got rockets and missiles fired at Israel in return. So why should Israel give up any more land? Will one of you Israel bashers answer that question?

Many Israelis have no idea what anti-Semitism really is and just how widespread it still is. They have learnt about it but have difficult comming to terms with it.

If we had regular market bombings with 10's of people killed, MAYBE, the world would love us more.

CJ:"When you believe your own propaganda, you`re in deep sh*te." In total agreement CJ,when you tell a lie you have to back that liar up with more lies.Keep it coming CJ and thanks for the links from your previous post

Obviously you are not a historian of wars. When a country has to fight a war under the microscope of the world there is no way they can win. When the world sends daggers and writes volumes of filthy propaganda against you it is quite difficult to achieve your goals. The fact that the palestinians love to use human shields and place their weapons in hospitals and kindergartens doesn't seem to bother you. Let me tell you something Clear Cut you have a big mouth and nothing to back it. I would choose the IDF over any army in the world to protect me and my family and that goes for the U.S.armed forces.

We're talking life & death for Israel - where is the middle ground? Allow a thousand dead Israelis every year? Either Israel is allowed to do whatever it takes to protect its citizens or not. Would anyone impose restrictions on US to protect American citizens from al qaida? Would UK citizens have allowed outsiders to dictate how they protect themselves from IRA? Why is it that the world only demands "proportionality" for terrorists attacking Jews?

...nor will it get your party elected, as Obama is finding out right now!

This is why Israel win; this General is a brilliant thinker, not just gung ho shot'm up. As for conditions of the Arabs, they are stewing in their own juices and Israel is an Island of relative calm and peace among a sea of trumoil caused by the Arabs themselves. Its their problem and now an Israeli general's problem to solve the Arabs' situation. #1 Sidney's response and similar is misplaced sympathy for the perpetrators of violence.

The world respects religion and if Israel had religious people governing mutual trust between the Arab countries and Israel would be far more greater than the secular present Israel government at present Israel by doing the right thing will always be respected and that's the key, not popularity as the secular would have you believe.

Self-Rule The Government of Israel flatly rejects the establishment of a Palestinian Arab state west of the Jordan river. Maybe when you chage your charter the Palestinians will chnge theirs---huh benji boy. Yeah yeah--I know--Irish drunk and anti semite irish and hitler lover and IRA ETC ETC. So do you have an answer jabo.

and he thinks no one else knows about it. Poor old ben----things are not quite going to plan. The greater Israel might be in jeopardy. He might have to give into those "A" rabs.

... in tears!

Why hasn't anybody spoken up about the 800,000 Jewish refugees who were kicked out of Israel after Israel's birth in 1948?

Another of the absurd public statements from Israeli government officials, which often suggest they are participating in a collective self-brainwashing. The twisted logic of this particular statement could only make sense in Israel, where the government will contrive ANY justification for its continued oppression of the Palestinians. This man doesn't even believe what he is saying, but will say it anyway because it allows him (and the great majority of the Israeli people)to justify the criminal brutality of the IDF, the ongoing occupation and theft of Palestinian land, and the imprisonment of more than a million non-combatant civilians in Gaza.

I don't think its all the "Terrorism", I think its more the murdering of civillians thats done it. Mind you this is the opinions of the people we're talking about, not the corrupt Governments you bribe and blackmail.

Whats the difference between a suicide bomber and and the IDF who flies over in F16's and drops bombs on non-military targets?

Responsibility for the suffering inflicted upon Lebanon in 2006 and Gaza last year resides within Hezbollah?s kidnapping attack and Hamas?s incessant missile bombardment. The rules of law allow Israel to defend itself. Israeli fire is targeted, not indiscriminate. Civilians die because war is a cruel business. Since you only speak to other retrograde Marxists and ISM zombies, you may have an exaggerated sense of the truth and acceptance of your position.

The postings on this board go to show that the world loves to mourn dead Jews, but hates those that are living.

Stop explaining to each embacile how to live and how to protect your citizens. The double standards applied to the State of Israel so blatant and affront it is mind buggling.

what success is this smart guy talking about! the terrorized people are the palestinians not the israelis!

Why don't you address the fact that the Arabs target civilians? If Israel kills so called "innocent civilians," it is because the terrorists hide behind a willing populace. Incidentally, I notice a lot of Arabs and Arab sympathizers post on this board. Jews and Israelis allow for healthy debate, which is something that could get you killed in your own countries.

A real insult to intelligence is the subterfuge the likes of you engage in. The "conquered territories" were conquered in defensive wars that have not even ended yet. Was conquered land returned to Germany after WWII? And how easily you gloss over the fact that Israel has been and remains the target of terrorism within and outside the country. You oppose Israel as much as you like; the opinion of people who liked the treatment of Jews by Nazis do not matter.

Fighting wars against terrorists or any other evil enemy is never pretty. We are forced into acts that none of us enjoy but that are necessary. Terrorists know this and use our own media against us. It is one of their most potent weapons. We need to close our ears and eyes and do whatever it takes to prevent attacks.

you live in princeton new jersey? your on stolen land eh buddy? you should leave...and if you dont. I will rocket your house, your schools, your kindergartens. really, you should leave princeton..you see, you live in land that was always historically, indian, whereas israel is in the land they always historically were in...so you see, it is you who should move. if there were no rockets and there were no suicide bombers, and hamas recognized israel is legit and going to be their neighbour, they would have 30 yrs ago had a country. Israel would have lived on far less land(see UN partition plan 1947)but the arabs are too bloody stupid, and THAT all my anti semite friends is the fact on the ground. If you sincerely want to help the pals, you need to tell them to stop murder and recognize israel as a JEWISH state and renounce all intentions to destroy it. It's so curious that all the "activists" never take hamas to task..always just the jews..

will never give up its Nuclear Program. We have to live with it.

World communities have come to the conclusion after the wars of Lebanon 11, and Gaza 11, 111, 1V, which country is the bully and the countries of the victims of cluster bombs, and white phospherous.

"...Yadlin also said that the Palestinian Authority's struggle against Hamas in the West Bank stems from its internal security needs and not from "a love of Israel.".... Ha ha !Really ?? What a smart guy ! What a revelation !! Yadlin, could you tell us just why the Palestinins should "love" Israel ? What gave you such an idea ? David

Take a look at Likud's charter.Totally racists,land grabbing theft.

'Israel's success battling terror has turned world against us ' I can't say that's what's turned me against Israel. I'll skip the rant -- but that's really not it.

The challenge is to the legitimacy of the methodology Israel uses, not the legitimacy of the state. The Mass destruction and insensitivity to civilian infrastructure and utter disregard for civilian collateral damage and death is what is called into question as legitimate. The blaming of all civilian collateral damage Israeli forces inflict on those damaged is also not legitimate. Until the IDF and Israeli politicians come to understand this, they will never see the difference. The late 19th century concept of punitive reparations and right of conquest that led from the first World War to the second was something the Brits and French didn't get either.

You fabricate iliussions, lies then you believe to this illusions. Please enlighten us which population did we move in WB. May be you want to say they cant not move very easily, its clear that we don't move anybody to anywhere. Peace was in Arafat's hands in 2000. He didn't accepted anything and he had started the second intifada with Marwan Barguhtti. Today situation is completly their fault. Lets forget everything. We are ready to make peace if you convince Hamas to make peace with us. Why don't you try to tell Hamas to recognize us. What kind of an answer yo'll get. Aby Aby

why is the only nation that is worried about Israel's legitimacy is Israel? Oh yes the Arab world tried and is still trying to wipe us out but that is because Israel is currently a legitimat state. Europe dare doubt about our right of existence as a Jewish state after what they did to us. America is living its love affair with its Jewish God so they will support us blindly right now as long as their faith carries them along their righteous path. So why you Israel have such doubt about your right to exist? The Palestinian do not wish you dead or elese they would loose their rights. For do not forget Jerusalem only became a city of envy after we Jews took over the helms and made it into a successful town. And it is not because a Mosque stands over the Temple of Solomon that they became the jews of the bible. So stop being afraid and stand firm with a strong army in front of these few fanatics who will eventually loose their path of destruction

2009 had terrorist attacks ... One is too many But agreed if a guarantee on security could be reached it could make everyones lives better so why not link land to terror? Full freeze ( not including EJ as it was annexxed UN can go F itself) lifting of siege and movement of persons if so much as a rock comes over israel takes a settlement block, and we resume talks, can Palestinians agree? Or can they not control themsleves? Can they refrain from trying to kill? That is the question and if they can the furantee should b no problem

Kiss the ground that Israel battled terror and wins. Rather a live fighting Jew than a well behaved celebrated victim of a holocaust

jon, Can you define Israel's Border for me please? In Gaza they ran away - forced by Hamas. Prove that Israel responds to force. In the west bank they continue to move their population in the west bacnk choking the palestininas. So get it through your thick skull. Hisballa Hamas tought people 1 lesson to dirve Israel out of terrotories can only be done force. In 1948 Israel chewed up more than it was given. Moving civilians into war zone is a war crime. PLO was established in 64, but OSLO 93 changed that. Arafat droped he pants and bent over and Israel gave him nothing. More walls more restriction on an occupied people. Again ran out of Gaza. Maybe Abbas should adopt Hamas policies. Israel does not deserve this man. GOOD luck with your logic

And the UN has been hijacked by Arab states there are thousandS of proofs for this, UNRwA- a refugee status that is contrary to every refugee on the planet is a great example. What I requires for annexation ? Territorial sovereignty offering of citizenship to inhabitants intl recognition - exists as per us congress, president, fearing Islamic terror reprisals has issued 6 month stay of implementation that doesn't take away from recognition if anythin. It shows what Muslim terrorists will do forthright cause. So face it Jerusalem is one city and the UN and oter western nations are going to fight a war for it, arabs good luck getting there it's along way from saui Arabia and Syria

expansion and get back begind the 67 lines which in fact are not part of the Israeli borders as declared in 1948. That is what Arafat was fighting for. You are taliking nonsense---best check out international law --then come back with your long winded discredited claims.

Cj 62 years ago is 1948, who declares war on who? Arabs + 2 Palestinian militias on Israel. This is after boycotting, saying we refuse to participate or even let our voices heard, to partition now what laws make territory through agrressive wars unannexable? Geneva convention 4 which is not retroactive and comes into effect august 1949 final armstice for 48-9 war or independance is July 1949 so yourpoint is codswallop, garbage, nonsense, of no importance, propaganda, bullspit how bout you refute it or faili g that stop repeating the lies

"When a woman feigns pregnancy so she can hide explosives under her garments...." Well, Ben, give the Palestinians F16, drones, Apaches and Merkavas and they won't have to hide their explosives. As for the Hamas and Fatah charters, you better check the Likud party programme and what it says about the West Bank. And finally, Gaza is not a state, it is part of Palestine. Palestine and the Palestinians have been under occupation and oppression for 42 years. They have a right to fight, and they will surely carry on doing so. Or what would you recommend they do to reclaim the land stolen by a country run by Likud?

"But if only there was some way of easing restrictions on Palestinians in the West Bank and of lifting the seige of Gaza without compromising Israeli security..." Yes Silvienne all the Palestinians need to do is adhere to the Roadmap. Recognise Israel. Cease Terrorism. Recognise Prior Agreements and lastly free Shalit. If Hamas and the PA would do these few simple things then some measure of trust could be built up and restrictions could be lifted. There werent always restrictions on Gaza or Roadblocks in the Westbank or even a wall. All these are the results of our women and children being slaughtered by suicde bombers. Maybe Hamas should of thought of the end results before firing more than 8,000 rockets into civilian areas. Maybe the PA should stop making demands before agreeing to sit down and discuss peace. Maybe, should of, could of, the story of the Palestinian people.

The world is not against Israel. Only the dark forces-Islamist-Jihadists and AntiSemites have a problem with Israel. Israel should not be intimidated by the dark forces. In fact, Israel should confront and defeat them.

was not an issue before 1967 . So what was the reason for all the Arabs that time to gang up on this tiny Israel ? Apa , It is not easy , Arabs want the whole Israel and they want every Jew out of the ME . Nothing less they will settle for . After which they will start butchering each other as they do any place they reside .

THE WORLD IS UPSIDE DOWN ANYWAYS!!!THE FIRST AND UTMOST TASK OF THE JEWISH ISRAELI STATE AND THE IDF, IS TO PROTECT ITS CITIZENS...IF THE "WORLD" DOESN'T LIKE IT,LET THEM EAT CROW AND DROP DEAD...

Half measures on the part of Israel's enforcement of Security is what has driven the International Community against Israel. With the Military Occupation of Judea and Samaria, Israel became responsible also for the Security of the Palestinians. Israel should also protect the interests of Palestinians. Collective punishment of a people is illegal not only by International law but by our own humanity and Jewish scripture and tradition. It's hard to isolate the wicked amongst a crowd, but whenever has justice and righteousness been easy?! Enforcement against the true criminals while taking extreme efforts to protect the palestinian people is the only way to carry out this mission. These palestinians are Alien Residents, they believe in God and that Moses and Abraham where great prophets of his. Their religion is build on the foundations of Judaism. God commanded the Jews to take care of the Widow, the fatherless boy and the alien resident in our midst. We must protect them too.

does not even want admit the obvious , Israel successfully curtailed the ability to be terrorized . I am sure he got a high when Sabbaro was blown up , and now he suffers a withdrawal syndrome .

It's not 1948 anymore the world is a much different place, people are more empowered and expect civil rights as a standard. Israel seems to be panicking now because the pressure is on from the International commuinty including the Americans, their closest alley to stop sitting on the fence and allow the Palestinians to form a state or give citizenship.

100% correct

on which is a better way around . Understanding Paris suburbs you could witness the culture which Israel must struggle against . It is not a culture of peaceful coexistence , tolerances , ... where lives have values . It is a culture where a cartoon can create worldwide riots and costing so much an lives and property destruction .

Or you did not find any yet . Your accusations are Swiss cheese-holed , but an established enemies , as you are , will continue to parrot the same line without looking around and noticing the second , maybe even more legit , side of the coin . Entrenched mind is an utterly dead mind .

Tis funny that Haaretz allows some to post without an address of either city or nation. You younger Zionist just don't get it. You have grown up actually believing that you are entitled to the settlements and that the occupation is necessary for your security. (Rockets come to you because you continue to occupy the land you took in '48; because of the villages you razed and the Pals you displaced; and because of the new settlements you put on top of the rubble.) The longer you insist on the above, the less secure you will feel. The world is getting more and more impatient with your hubris. Soon you will run out of friends anywhere; not because it is Jewish enterprise, but because of Israel's policies.

You are either knowingly spewing BS, or you are just as "smart" as the Iranian president.

This is the reality of the worlds thinking when Jews are involved . As the sheep-marches of the past the terrorist onslaught by Arabs mutes opinions , and as such seeing the obvious needs for Israeli actions . The Jew as a victim is the desired , is an only acceptable picture in their minds , but a Jew defending himself ???..... provokes a stroke-bordering response . Sorry , cant oblige .

The "people around the world" to which you refer are the ones who like Jews as long as they are dead. The peace that you love is one where Jews are second-class citizens. You can keep that kind of peace for yourself. I admire Israel for standing up to a fascist mindset and protecting its citizens doing whatever it takes. When hypocrits like you frown upon it, it must be right.

DO you know how many children have died or are maimed for life by unexploded cluster bombs after the cese fire in Lebenon. NO? BUT you know lots of other figures like 7000 rockets. PS IF cluster Bombs are not a weapon of terrorists what is www.atfl.org

"the field hospital, while commendable from any entity, is on the part of Israel a cynical P.R. ploy to distract the world from its brutality in Gaza" Israel has been helping in disasters worldwide for decades - long before the last war in Gaza (and we all know what brought that on).

Purest proof of this is for years, EU, UN, "Amnesty Int'l" and US State Dept. toadies denounced Israel's use of precision helicopter missiles to zap Hamas terrorists, shooting right into bedroom windows, making it impossible for them to walk around in the open, drive on roads and set up multi-rocket launchers - claim being that collateral casualties were somehow excessive and Israeli use of these was "disproportionate" (disproportionate to the 1,100+ Israelis murdered by rockets and suicide bombers?). But in Afganistan and Pakistan, what we see is US and its EU "coalition partners" using against "AlQaida" THE VERY SAME PRECISION MISSILES, launched from (Israeli-licensed) drones at "AlQaida houses" from 20,000' up, controlled by a computer center 500 miles away. Thousands have been killed by these, US acknowledges that well over half may be "collateral damage". No wild denunciations by State Dept., no "war crime" cries UN, EU, Amnesty Int'l. Only Jews fighting back EU wants arrested.

Hi ! CJ from Australia. When are you people going to mend fences with the Original Inhabitants of Australia. The Aboriginese,who are languishing under the White Man's yoke !? Don't you think you have a lot of work,CJ, to do before galavanting from one post to another ? Tell your PM that you want to help your neighbours !

No not just what the article says but the main reason has been Israel consistently making one way concessions in the peace process and acting weak in the face of Israeli left wing attacks and the world wide campaign against the idea of Israel as a nation.

"Surely, you must admit that the Walls do work, just like locking your house doors to keep out the bad guys" I've said several times before that I think the Wall/Fence is a good idea and has done wonders for Israeli security. My problem with it is that it shouldn't cut so deep through Palestinian West Bank land, thus cutting villages off from their farmland, which you know it does. "To show their good intentions, BOTH Hamas & Fatah MUST remove the portions of their Charters that call for the destruction of Israel" I have agreed and do agree with that. "Israel did remove some of the restrictions on Gaza, as a show of appreciation, Gaza instensified their rocket & mortar fire into Israel" How about this: lift the seige completely, and if so much as one rocket hits Israel afterwards, re-commence the seige. That would give the Gazans and Hamas a real chance at peace...??

"Surely, you must admit that the Walls do work, just like locking your house doors to keep out the bad guys" I've said several times before that I think the Wall/Fence is a good idea and has done wonders for Israeli security. My problem with it is that it shouldn't cut so deep through Palestinian West Bank land, thus cutting villages off from their farmland, which you know it does. "To show their good intentions, BOTH Hamas & Fatah MUST remove the portions of their Charters that call for the destruction of Israel" I have agreed and do agree with that. "Israel did remove some of the restrictions on Gaza, as a show of appreciation, Gaza instensified their rocket & mortar fire into Israel" How about this: lift the seige completely, and if so much as one rocket hits Israel afterwards, re-commence the seige. That would give the Gazans and Hamas a real chance at peace...??

you live in princeton new jersey? your on stolen land eh buddy? you should leave...and if you dont. I will rocket your house, your schools, your kindergartens. really, you should leave princeton..you see, you live in land that was always historically, indian, whereas israel is in the land they always historically were in...so you see, it is you who should move. if there were no rockets and there were no suicide bombers, and hamas recognized israel is legit and going to be their neighbour, they would have 30 yrs ago had a country. Israel would have lived on far less land(see UN partition plan 1947)but the arabs are too bloody stupid, and THAT all my anti semite friends is the fact on the ground. If you sincerely want to help the pals, you need to tell them to stop murder and recognize israel as a JEWISH state and renounce all intentions to destroy it. It's so curious that all the "activists" never take hamas to task..always just the jews..

His smile shows how serious his remarks are. He made me laugh too. :)) Other People dont have any problem w/ İsrael's security.

The world condemns Israel because it is no longer blind to its oppression. Cast lead has made all to visible what's wrong in the region. Israeli oppression sows the seeds of terrorist attacks. Palestinians are no saints, but who should expect them to be under the circumstances they are in. And: the wall / fence is not as watertight as Isreali's want to believe. In the hilly country there are still places where you can pass it on foot. Many Palestinians do so looking for a job in Isreal as illegal workers. They work, they don't place bombs anymore.

The International community has no problem whatsoever with Israels success in "battling terror", all the International community asks for is that Israel stops oppressing and humiliating its Palestinian neighbours, and stops taking (I'm being nice here...) their land. That's it, not more and not less.

you do not battle terror you create it

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gotta luv silvienne, cummings et al...nono, they say, were not anti semites! it's all israels fault! WRONG...try 1967, arab armies invading israel and lose! yes, lose..and then, when asked to negotiate recognition of israel in return for all of the land, (before there were settlements), the arabs all together said no..3 times..(see khartoum, 3 no's) ...before this war though, PLO established 1964, 3 years before any "occupation"...so? can anyone make sense if this FACT? come on all anti semites..answer this...as you know, before 1967, wb was jordan and gaza was egyptian, yet there were no palestinian national aspirations for this land...so why was the PLO set up in 1964?

Just Wondering.... What if Israel strikes Oil. Not some rivulet, but a river to match S.Arabia's oil reserves ! Then it would really be interesting to see how those two-penny dart-throwers change their minds about Israel overnight ! Look at the map: Israel is a next-door neighbour to Europe ! You got it ?

King Hussein stopped terror during his Black September operation As you may possibley recall, it was Jordan that attacked Israel each and every time, not the reverse So it seems it was Jordan that initiated the terror you're bellyaching about

Unlike Iran, Israel doesn't have street riots, where the military is shooting the civilians to keep them in line, unless of course if the civilians are threatening the security forces with Molotov cocktails or stones Israel has free and open elections, while Iranian's stuff the ballot boxes to keep the Mad Mullah's in power Think if you can of the last time an Israeli plane was hijacked, then post the details here for all to see

The means through which Israel has fought the terrorists. It should be noted that Israel's success in battling terror is just partial, there are still plenty of terrorists around. A much more decisive victory could have been achieved by nuking Gaza and the West Bank (not too big charges, that could be dangerous). Of course reasonable people might think that doing that would have been rather cruel and disproportionate. Reasonable people might also think that the terror that such a campaign might prevent pales in comparison to the terror that would be inflicted during it. Seeing as it would target civilians and terrorists alike, cause huge damages to infrastructure and civilian property and kill and maim vast numbers of innocents. Many reasonable people think that of cast lead as well.

there was no disproportionate use of force per se..only the force necessary to stop the rockets. Even if there was proportionality, 8,000 rockets would have been launched against hamas for their 8000 rockets. Israel REPLIED with FAR fewer than that...The fact that hamas' rockets suck doesn't matter. They are launching ROCKETS with the specific hope that they kill civilians inside another sovereign UN recognized country. Thats what matters. Israel dropped leaflets, called in advance, sent warnings for civilians to leave..all exceptional measures...and besides, only 300 civilians were killed..far less than in so many other conflicts around the world. Would you move if say the native indians rocketed you to have their land back in vancouver? (and in reality, it's not even your land historically) whereas in israel, they historically were always there... you need a history lesson brent. you also need empathy lessons..or do you only feel for the 'poor' gazans?

'Terror' is an interesting word. Most people see Hamas as resistance fighters against Israeli occupation and oppression, rather than international 'terrorists'. Heavens, they even won the election, though Israel and its glove puppet the USA made sure that outbreak of democracy was quickly stamped on. Fatah is not seen as 'terrorist' at all but as the mainstay of the civil authority that Israel spends its life bullying and stealing land from. When the Pals have had enough of Israel's tricks and lies and take up arms again, as surely they must, they will be widely accepted as resistance fighters this time. No amount of derogatory political labelling and sloganising by GOI will change that - enjoy the easy ride while you can!

To show their good intentions, BOTH Hamas & Fatah MUST remove the portions of their Charters that call for the destruction of Israel Arafat promised to do so at Oslo and never followed through Israel did remove some of the restrictions on Gaza, as a show of appreciation, Gaza instensified their rocket & mortar fire into Israel When a woman feigns pregnancy so she can hide explosives under her garments it sort of leaves a sense of doubt in Israel's mind tht she's on a peaceful mission Surely, you must admit that the Walls do work, just like locking your house doors to keep out the bad guys

"Success always breeds enemies". And only therefore the whole world was against Nazi-Germany?

Sure, they also hate us for our freedoms, right? Just as if them hating us has nothing to do with our indiscriminate bombing of primarily civilians and critical infrastructure, right? Hey, our bombs are smart bombs, doncha know? This is the type of statement we've come to expect from Israeli "leaders". The only people who would ever listen to anything one of these career thugs has to say are those who are living in the same aternate reality as them. Nothing these people say is based in reality, the policies speak for themselves, the actions of the IDF against Lebanon, once, twice, Gaza, once, twice, they are the facts on the ground, and despite the attempted whitewash in the western media and horrendously slavish display of Israeli ownership of the US congress amidst Goldstone findings, the people are waking up in droves, and distancing themselves from the games the Israelis and the US play. I think what Israel is learning is that the truth is impossible to cover up.

You speak of the world...well, where was the world for 8 yrs of rockets...or post gaza handover in 2005 when rockets still came? I heard no ?world? then....and just so you get it through your thick skull, the PLO, which was formed in 1964, stands for palestine 'liberation' organization...so tell me brent, in 1964, when there were no "occupied" territories, what were they established to liberate.... abbas, a so called moderate did his doctoral thesis on questioning the number of dead in the holocaust...you think he really is going to be a friend of israel? What about hamas? dedicated to destroying israel...or how about faisal al husseini's quote post oslo, in arabic to an egyptian paper, where he says, that the agreement was a "Trojan horse" and that "we are lying to the Jews, we are tricking them we are cheating them." If you have some idea that has not yet been tried and you think will work, let?s have it, because I am sick of left winger/euro/American notions that Israel is somehow at fault for defending itself?so go on, enlighten us all?and don?t be naïve by saying that we must talk with hamas..they don?t want talk.. THAT?S what most outsiders don?t get.

but the others are suffering from israeli terror. That is the point.

I suppose if you imprison people without trial, suspects accidentally keep getting in the way of bullets and you deport anyone who criticises the state, you could call the resulting interregnum a temporary success against something or other. Temporary success of a police state maybe? The fact is that it's Fatah and the PA that has enforced the peace in the West Bank, not trigger-happy Israel or Yadlin's men. Still, why not take the credit for it anyway, one thing Israel is never shy about is boastful hasbara.

How many times will the word "legitimacy" untruthfully replace the phrase "Israel's illegal colonization of conquered territories." Confounding illegal settlements with "security policies" is an affront to the intelligence of all. That is what people everywhere but Israel oppose, and they don't do so under pressure from the PA.

When France cut it off in 1967; the Arab oil embargo in 1973; Kissinger's "reassessment" in 1974, and the list goes on. Israel has learned that it can rely only on itself against a largely hostile "world" which kowtows to Arab oil and terror. People of good faith, who have their heads on straight (and they are not few!) will continue to support Israel.

I did not hear you say that the world was against: 1-Iran's wish to destroy Israel 2-Hammas wish to do the same 3-the indiscriminate killing of jews by classic terror acts of bombing 4-7000 rockets into Israel 5-Hizbos terror as wellas power play in Lebanon Tell that the worlds is also against all that, than I would listen to you.

you cause terror of immense proportion. Terrorists must be stopped even if they are the IDF

Wackos wont help you in the long run

Fatah's "encouragement" to challenge Israel's legitimacy would fall on deaf ears were it not for the apartheid state it has constructed, and the means Gen. Yadlin's army has utilized to suppress opposition to it.

That is easy! Just stop the dual legal system in the West Bank, let the settlers who can't deal return to Israel proper, share Jerusalem and compensate the refugees, and you'll see that it will all work out.

It's not Israel's succes against terror. It's Israel's complete denial of the occupation and it's settlementpolicy and the consequenses of that.

What a title? As if people were against success when fighting against terrorism? The world has turned against Israel as to the treatment of ordinary Palestinians or people in Lebanon during the wars.The world has lost its trust as to the promises(the occupied areas with the illegal settlements).The succes? Many may say, that it has only increased the potential terrorism. The humiliated ones hate.

Instead of acknowledging the obvious, that many people around the world are horrified at Israel's thuggish, aggressive behavior towards its neighbors and its appalling treatment of the Palestinians, this idiot blathers on about Israel's "success against terror".

He has it wrong, the more success that Israel has in its war on terror the more support Israel has. Nobody wants a victim. Arab support is strong among the left and few other places. Goldstone went nowhere, the boycots went nowhere Gideon Levy went nowhere. Even Carter went nowhere. A strong Israel is respected and very legitimate.

it's Israel's: duplicity brutality [Gaza 1967, 1954... 2008] the field hospital, while commendable from any entity, is on the part of Israel a cynical P.R. ploy to distract the world from its brutality in Gaza, and refusal to sent medical assistance to the victims of Israel's war cries there, or allow it in , or any other aid, and to hide it all behind a ban on the world press. QED

... are paid for by the innocent and uninvolved... ... Israel has been heavy-handed, not at all sensitive to the by-stander nor the uninvolved... ... that is what brought Goldstone onto the scene...

No one. What the world has turned against is Israel's "activities" such as moving it's population into territories which are, under international law, occupied. That transfer of population is therefore illegal under the Geneva Convention. The world has turned against disproportionate use of force and killing of civilians in operation Cast Lead. The world is against the blockade and economic warfare against the people of Gaza and the Westbank. The world is against the evictions of Arabs from their lands. The world is FOR a just settlement and peace for the Palistinian and Israeli people.

The fact that Israel have success against terror, is not what upset the world. What upset the world is the way you do it. It is very easy to encage, and make the life of millions of people miserable, so that you can have success on the war on terror. Are there not other ways to do it?

Yadlin is absolutely right.Success always breeds enemies especially when it is Israel (or a Jewish) success. It simply highlights others failures,cowardice and incompetance

That there have been no terror attacks against Israel during 2009 is great news. But if only there was some way of easing restrictions on Palestinians in the West Bank and of lifting the seige of Gaza without compromising Israeli security...

The policy of ignoring International Law for 61 years. The policy of illegally acquiring other folk's territory by war for 62 years. 42 years of occupation. The policies that foster and protect illegal settlers and illegal settlements. The policy of illegal annexation. The policy of having a separation barrier running through Palestinian land. That the MI Chief & his ilk are blind to all of the above policies, are what turns the world against Israel.

The world defines as cruelty ( cast lead, occupation)

It is Israels state terror, occupation and creation of responding terror that has turned the world against Israel. Play the victim game if you want. But at least don't come out publicly about it. It insults our intelligence.

the Israeli Military Intelligence Chief is stating that there are no current immediate military threats facing Israel