Livni on Dubai hit: A dead terrorist is good news

Israel is much worst. Why? Because they pretend to be the victims, reaching out for world support while in escence generate much more violence and respect nothing, just as them. Cast lead operation was just too much. It turned the table around and now its just too obvious who is the oppresor.

"greed, arrogance, trickyness and the humiliation of another people. But unfortunately those attributes have all become synonyms for right-wing Israel/Diaspora" Does Israel/Diaspora mean Jews and if not, what else could it conceivably mean? Are you saying only right-wing Jews are greedy and arrogant? Left-wingers aren't tricky? For someone who keeps insisting he is not anti-semitic, just anti-Zionist, this statement appears to have crossed a line. Please clarify.

"what arms purchase? do you think gazans are armed? or can by any mean bring arms? israel is fighting unarmed civilians for your knowledge" FYI, Gazans have a network of tunnels thruogh which to smuggle arm, among them official Hamas tunnels. Items smuggled are taxed by Hamas; Journalists are sometimes invited to visit them. What do you think it isGazans are shooting at the unarmed civilians of Sderot? Dirty diapers?

If you know, tell us, and tell the Dubai police also, because their investigation is pretty slow. Hint: Hamas today and earlier claimed it was rival Palestinian factions, and has never claimed it was Israel.

No doubt the world is now a much better place.

France in general is no true friend to Isreal or America. The French seldom pass up an opportunity to snub there noses,whether it's by criticizing Isreal for retaliating against Hamas or America for it's War On Terror.They prefer to stadle the fence,so not to offend the Muslem world. America had a legitimate target when it sought to bomb Kadaffi, but our good friends the French stood against America by dening use of it's air space. What if we done the same when Hitler invaded,or the Soviets for that matter. A friend in need is a friend in deed? VIVA LA FRANCE.

A Syrian passport. I have a Palestinian passport from Gaza. Gaza is part of Palestine.Palestinians of the dispora living in Syria have Syrian passports.

Winni Mandela's claim to fame.Cruel B...H! And they accuse us Jews of atrocities. Nelson too was a terrorist. Some people are only too pleased to remined us OF YITZHAK SHAMIR AND BEGIN...forget the IRA's Martin McGuiness and Jerry Adams and Nelson Mandela the last found it by chance:Nelson Mandela was a terrorist. He used arms struggle for making his point. He wanted the ruling British to talk with nationalist fighters ? for peace. But British never agreed for a one-to-one dialog and the mayhem of anarchy, atrocity and violence continued for more than half a century.

That,s if it can be proved ,so cut the bull and try and prove it,moron ?

Right wing ,leftwing the same evil ideology ,so don,t try the leftist/communist trick of confusing the peasants it doesn,t work against the educated ?

Has Interpol been alerted to this Iranian violation of international air space and what actions can be expected against another Islamic state clearly flouting the law ,we shall soon found out?

The above mentioned people have been found out time and again Leoblue why bother about them?

Spoken like a true Obamaist but never mind less tha 4 years of leftwing madness in the White House ,hoorah.

So putting a gasoline filled car tyre around a suspect,s neck is fine by you Shin ,ANC style and then setting it alight ?

Palestinian land is Jordan so get there and stop the bulls -?

To the tunnels stupid or were they too busy being used to smuggle weapons of death ?

Hamas ,like it,s counterpart Hezbollah just another criminal Muslim gang run by fascists for their own profit , that,s why the peasant tunnel diggers are paid a hundred dollars a day while the over one million dolars a month profits are shared by Haniyeh ,Mashal ,Dahlan ,Erekat ,Shaath ,Ashrawi ,Abbas and others in that godforsaken hell hole called Gaza.

And what about those other nations that annually cull their whale populations in a mindless bloody orgy of death ,don,t preach to us please?

Says who ,the very same French hypocrites who have already signed a huge arms deal with Palestine ,sacre bleu?

Islamic propaganda tries to LEGALIZE CRIME, as long as it is committed against Western infidels. Whether it is heroin distribution, arms-smuggling, murder, these are not freedom fighters, but the lowest criminals. These are not martyrs, but murderers and criminals. The 3rd millenium jihad is a worldwide crime-wave in the name of a religion that has totally lost its way and connection with Truth and G-d.

...because she supports extra-judicial killings. But why am I not surprised? All Israeli leaders are the same, and Livni is true to her family's origins.

...yeah..I thought about it... it is good news.

... well, usually a friend of Israel, but in this case, not only wrong, but hypocritically so. As I've mentioned in several previous threads, many nations (even those which are 'friends') conduct intelligence and espionage efforts against one another. In matters of vital national security, such as the war against terrorism, these efforts can and do include targeted assassinations. Israel does it; so does France. My advice to all the Jew- and Israel-haters out there: get over it. If you were truly concerned about the loss of human life, you'd be taking a stand against Iran's nascent nuclear Holocaust against Israel, instead of cheering every time the mullahs set another centrifuge spinning, and carping about a dead terrorist in Dubai. MV

Well Tzipi, if we're cheering dead terrosits, then perhaps you should contribute to the cause and off yourself. You must be the most evil and heartless women ever.

don't call it a succesful hit, call it a mercyless MURDER. Don't call them 'a team', call them KILLERS doing it by money. This was not a basket macth, but a complot driving to an planned assassination. Since his killing, the Hamas leader was a blacklisted terrorist, and after become a victim and another MARTYR. What shit israeli 'control' is thinking about: secure peace or maybe something that an action, reaction, re reaction deadly suicidal twister? Israel credibility is below 0

Islamic countries never miss an oportunity to blame Israel even if they have no proof. Without evidence talk is cheap.

If the Israeli embassy in Ireland should be closed down because the Israeli are accused (without evidence) of killing one terrorist, then the embassies of Saudi Arabia, Syria, Lebanon, Turkey, Yemen (and all other muslim countries) should be closed down. After all they are behing all terrorist attacks. After all lets be fair and leave our double standards behind.

Swiss Law is very specific regarding what is construed as cruelty to all animals. Halal and Kosher slaughter is considered cruel. Cutting a dogs tail or ears is forbidden. The sale of animal,(Cow Pig or Sheep) lungs,brains etc is forbidden,for its considered a health risk. This is not a religious statement by the Swiss Government. Good day.

It is obvious Israel's real motive is peace, they just have to kill every non jew first. The frustrating thing for Israel, is non jews want to live too, how selfish is that. If Israel does not press forward and win a real peace soon, peace for Israel will be lost forever and Israel will not fare well in a real war.

A summary of the EU's contribution to the War on Terror: 1. We can't send any troops they might (G-d forbid) hurt someone. 2. Anything the USA wants or needs to effectively combat this scourge - the answer is NO. 3. If we give radical islam the opertunity to organise in our countries they will eventually come round to our way of thinking. 4. All bombings of trains and busses in our countries is our own fault because we didn't obey their demands. 5. We are ready to fight this all the way to the last US Marine. 6. Any Muslim Radical that is wanted in their own coutry can get asylim within the EU where we will protect you. 7. Israel must be reasonable and give up the right of Jews to self-determination, give up ANY claim to their ancestoral heritage - remember we will look after you as we did in the past. 8. Do not critize Islam - they will get upset - stick to critising the Jews - they are small in number and we can use them to forget our past and unite our nation and we need Ara

I don't believe,that Mossad ,Izraelis are involved in the killing in Dubai,because of the amount of the people involved 15-20 against 1

How can you deny the fact the Palestinians are fighting for their land, least for their rights? So, What are they supposed to do?

I too praise the assassination of Israeli leaders no matter where in the world they occur. Like her I just wish there were many more of them.

Livni sounds like Rooster Cogburn. Unfortunately, this is real life, not a John Wayne western. John Ford made a lot of westerns. But they did not reflect real life in the West. Livni trying to sound like John Wayne as Rooster Cogburn is comedic, at best.

since you have no idea, you consider his elimination to be an "insignificant 'kill'."

a dead terrorist is a good news, but the bad news is the real terrorists are not dying. freedom fighters are dying. Apartheid SOuth Africa also called those fighting for their freedom terrorists.

Notice how Interpol was quick off the mark to issue "red-cards" for every accused conspiritor but failed to do the same when it came to the self-confessed and proud serial killer and weapons smuggler and his entorage!!! Could it be that Interpol is biased with a one-sided agenda?? Would have saved the serial killers life and allowed him to face justice in a normal manner.

Well Dan by your logic anyone deemed a terrorist can just be executed on the spot. The "shoe bomber" the "Crotch bomber"should have just been shot. All prior members of Irgun, The Stern gang and Haganah.The british identified these orgs as terrorist orgs so these retired terrorists are fair game.The folks in Gaza consider Livni, Barak and Omert terrorists. Even you Dan, a slip of the tongue critisizing the US govt can get you branded a terrorist under the Patriot act.

The straight forward answer here is YES. Terrorism is not allowed by the UN so it's not allowed anywhere. And when you break the rules, you must say that it's fair enough that the others do so? Didn't the same French use Red Cross clothes to save Bettancourt from Columbia's FARC, pretending to be bringing food? This is the example of the inside-outside double standard, added the fact (it is a fact) that everyone hates Israel because it's 75% Jews. (who assassinated Jesus with fake Roman passports, as the urban legend says)

Miggy "And Gaza is one of the most crowded places on earth and Israel has sealed the borders" Egypt is also a border to Gazaaa Why did Egypt ie fellow Palestinians close its borders to Palestinians ?

You point out that the only persons arrested so far are members of Fatah. So the question now is does Fatah have the means to steal the identities of Israeli citizens and to obtain false passports. The answer is yes.

You forget that it was Hamas that declaired a war of genocide against Israel and Jews. Oh, I forgot. You are in favor of a war of genocide agsinst Israel and Jews, and that you do not consider murdering Israeli civilians to be a crime.

If you really cared for the Gazan children, you would protest against Hamas using them as human shields and using their schools as military installations. (I have seen the videos.) I have protested against the misuse of these children. Why haven't you?

Jake 1948 Arab League in 1917 7 1930s rejected the two state solution with the Jews In responce to the offer they began pogroms on Jews killing them. In 1929 Jews were killef of in Hebron. In 1929 Jews were kicked out of their homes in Gazaa by Arab rioters ( What Land did Israel steal then?) In 1941 Grand Mufti jioned Hitler and called for death of all Jews. In 1947 Arab League refused two state solution and again Grand Mufti called all Muslims to finish Hitlers work thus 1948 war. 1956 1967 1973 1980s 1990s and 2000nd wars are all in response to Arab League refusal of two state solution. so how does this all fit into we are fighitng illegal occupation when 1948 till today wars are all Ilegal wars ?

They are all terrorists so they should be "hit" and then we would have good news to last for months, maybe longer :)

Why is all the fuss? Why bother investigating? The afore mentioned experts know who did it. They have people on the ground in Dubai. They have all the facts. They know the names of every member of the team. They know who sent them and who planned it. Just ask them. They know. I will rely on their expertize and not question them again on any matter realted to Israel.

I think if you examine the historical record on Irish neutrality, you'll find it was baised towards Britain if anything. And we contributed quite a bit to Britain's effort in both wars - 35,000 dead in WWI. My grandfather joined the British Army in that war and another relative fought in WWII. We might regret being neutral now but de Valera had very little choice. There was quite a bit of residual ill-feeling over the seven centuries of armed occupation issue. As a few in Israel may agree, it can be hard to see a bitter enemy as the good guy in another conflict. Quite what this passport business has to do with our financial problems is beyond me.

Time for Abbas to prove his real credentials and declare his satisfaction of the killing of Muhmoud al Mabhouh ! There will never be a Palestinian State in the road of terror ! As much as the Palestinians will never realize their aspirations of peace with words alone. Talks and negotiations with the highest level of power will not bring peace. Abbas needs a conversion to prove himself and reject all kind of killing & terror. That is how Sadat committed himself to Peace ! A lesson for Abbas to emulate ! Action speaks louder than words ! Is it in Abbas to be a Hero ! Very little time left !

Ireland's fearless Foreign Minister is Micheal (pronounced mee-haul) Martin, not Michael. Both Ynet and the JPost fell at the first fence but Barak David got it right...twice! Alas, in the third article, he faltered. So two cheers for BD.

Unless there is going to be definative proof of Mossad involvement in the Dubai assasination , I think this story is starting to lose steam. Mossad managers can now just sit back and watch the bickering amongst the other players. Speaking of which...what is happening with the 2 Palestinians caught and the other Palestinians being extradited from Jordon ?

The focus should be on Dubai. Why does dubai shelter known terrorists? why does dubai launder terrorist money. What passport was mabhoud using why was he allowed to enter dubai what name was mabhoud using? These are the issues. Like Pres Bush said either you are with us fighting terror or....

A dead terrorist is good news, no matter how he dies, right ? So, a terrorist who dies by blasting himself is good news, righ ? Oh ! Too quick too fast not painful enough ? Ok then. Let's rehabilitate torture. This kind of rethorics reminds me of Kurt Waldheim as head of the UN : "reverse" engineering.

Rather than avoiding the topic or blaming the "Arabs for smearing Israel", Livni's statement is excellent!! No wonder she did well as the Foreign Minister!

Dino - am 100% with you re the above. 100% !!! Democracy stops were cruelty is committed ! Switzerland must be commended for this. David

Livni claims that it is good news what happened in Dubai but is it really that? The fact of the matter is that as long as millions of Palestinians live as refugees in hopeless camps or in massive collective prisons as Gaza there will literally be thousands queuing up to replace Mahmoud al-Mabhouh. The question is if it will be as easy to restore the already suffering trust to Israel by its friends in the EU?

found dead under suspicious circumstances

all countries are fighting the war on terror. Be that in mountains of Pakistan or steppen valleys of afganistan or luxurious hotels in Dubai murderers will be brought to justice. Any country that tracked down that mass murderer and eliminated him should be applauded and not castigated. Either you fight the terror or hide your head in a sand pretending that nothing is happening.

This is so funny , (30 international killers ) after one man . He probably wanted to expose a lot of illegal arms dealers or certain government officials and in the end they got rid of him !?! Dirty business

Mahbouh killed two Israeli soldiers. The Israelis killed him. Why --precisely -- is he the 'terrorist' and Israel the righteous avenger?

....terrorist who sent suicide bombers into Israel was scared for his life and finally got his retribution!

Ireland supported Nazi Germany because they where against Britain for a reason: Independence. Finland supported Nazi Germany, because they where attact by the Soviet Union...you can not judge every country without knowing the context of the History.

trying to disguise an antsemitic nature which always comes full circle.

running around squawking about something and know nothing. All claiming knowledge of an assassination that even the authorities haven't figured out. Stupid squawking chickens.

If Livni is endorsing the murder of Palestinians overseas, it seems that she is inviting the murder of Israelis overseas as well.

waxes virtues of murder. Stay at home Livni---we are all waiting for you to attempt to soil our land with your presence. This is a direct flight to the Hague. Mind your fingers ---clang. Was she not the brave heroine who was willingb to test the britih legal system by handing herself in. Sure you will livni---.

You make a clear statement on the Jewish religion as a whole, but below you pretend that you're actually and only referring to the right-wing Jews in Israel and the world (your usual war horse), diverting from your first painful but of course deliberate provocation on Judaism. Finally, at the end of your hide-and-seek game, you can not help but return to your basic idea on the Jewish religion and Jews. All this zig-zag is pathetic and raises some serious about your mind-set. Provocative hypocrites are even worse than self-confessed Jew-haters. But as we know, Ticino is lovely but quite boring, better to vent a bit on the Israeli Jewish Haaretz talkback.

# 162 BRL, I would rather say the bad example started pre 1948... 1948 was a result of the 1929 massacre in Hevron long before the League of Nations were involved in the area

by your god---our God---everybody,s god--assuming you accept your own claim of being good examples to all the nations. Trouble with that is in my religion we believe that all people are Gods children and if anyone of those on an individual basis follows God,s teaching, "they" will be blessed individually. Not collectively ---each one is measured on the basis of what they do as individuals. We do not need someone from another religion claiming they know better than we do----especially when a large number of that group Are involved in anything but Godly behaviour. Your support for and apologies the GOI and it,s policies are anything but blessed or a light unto others. Anything but. So yeah--grow up---this bible malarky is all bs anyway. It is a book written by Jews for Jews ---especially when it gets into the area of who it is ok to kill and who not.capiche.

Let's face it, Swiss, you've got a real complex with regard to the term "chosen people". Whether due to ignorance or just 'good 'ol fashion anti-semitism', you refuse to accept the origin and meaning of the term. The only meaning behing the word "chosen" is that the Jews were "chosen" to have the "torah", (and all the associated rules to live by) given to them. It has absolutely NOTHING to do with claiming that we are "better" than anyone else. If you have such a problem with this, and you would like to be one of the "chosen" ones, you are free to convert to Judaism. Unlike your religion, assuming you have one, Jews do not impose our religion on others (i.e. evangelic). Unlike other religions, we do not assert "If you are not of our religion, you're going to hell". Indeed, it is your own feeling of inadequacy which compels you to hate us, for you belive, be it correct or incorrect, that we are better than you. Frankly, we Jews don't give a sh_t who is better. That is YOUR problem

When Jabo wants to discuss the PLO charter please require him to compare it to the "holy likud" charter.

With all the yahoo still the only two people in custody are Palestinians with links to the Fatah leadership. Even if you find 10 more passports that still hasn't and won't change. The rest of your post is nonsense. Did Israel use this or that? Where is your proof? What about the suspects in custody being Pals? "Simple Question" what about the provable Palestinian link? Infighting between the groups. BTW your old and tired accusation of people critical of Israel are silenced by false accusations of antisemitism is weak. Frankly it's pretty easy to tell the difference. I find that antisemitic people often fall back on your weak argument.

with the news that the door was locked from inside, and all you've got left is a bunch of CCTV footage of tennis buffs! "The assassination of Al Mabhouh was one of the most challenging cases that we have faced as it was meant to look like death from natural causes during sleep - but our experience prevailed and hence the whole process of investigation was initiated," Dr Fawzi Benomran told XPRESS."

All those terrible things you refer yo were done by germans.Since 1948 the Palestinians have paid for the crimes of others.I can not give you the names of the 10,000 for several reasons.1.There is not enough space here,Haaretz would not allow it2.I don't have all the names but the israeli government does not deny the numbers.I could give you names of our family who have lost their lives to the IOF however I would not do so because I would have to deal with the gutless cowards from the terrorist "jewish defense league".

....when the League of Nations, the Arabs and the Jewish communities around the world could not find common ground, when it came to the question of how to find a best possible solu- tion to give the Jewish people a homestate in the region, while also preserving the rights and interests of the native Arabs in the Holy Land. That was the "original sin", so to speak....

So now Jews don't have wisdom! Poor Dino, any which way you twist your argument it all comes to the same ugly conclusion. And I will not repeat it as I am getting tired of it. Good day Sir.

1a.The entire Christian and Budist world are enimies by their Doctrine; so why would only the Hewbrew nation be considered? b.There is also the strong possibility that his own people carried it out to bring attention and a base of support to them as they have lost a great deal of relivence in the last three months. 2a. The possibility of even the Arab world creating the hit is possible as any insecurity in the area creates a rise in oil prices. b. This could also be any nation who would or could profit from this situation. Any of the above do not show how Israel would profit from the situation at all and they certainly would not need eleven people, they are much more professional than that to begin with....following the money would make more sense. Be well, peace to all.

....the term spiritual strength with "wisdom", if that makes you any happier...:)

....where cruelty against animals begins. And that doesn't only apply to the Jewish community in Switzerland, but also to the Muslim one.... Sorry, but if you wanna live in our country, you got to adapt to our way of life, and not the other way around. Once the Jewish and Muslim communities will adapt to the values of the 21th century, and accept the use of anesteshia for "kosher/ halal" slaughtering, things will look very, very differently in a very short time, but until that has happenend, you will have to learn to live with a few restrictions..... (Not) sorry about that...:)

So let's see, what the other half of your sentence says: "...and I`m afraid that won`t change, till you will find the (spiritual) strength to make some modest "adjustments" This only corroborates my statement since it claims that Jews have not so far found any "spiritual strength"! So the people who have given to the world the precepts of morality have no "spiritual strength"! This would have been indeed funny if it were not rooted in deep antisemitsm.

It seems you studied in the same math class as the Dubai police. . At least 22 people entered the blessed city this year - all - including undead birthday boy - on forged documents. 2. At least 66% - 2 out of 3 humans visible on the video in the royally devoid of humanity airport - were immediately suspect of murder. 3. About 99% of them were Jews, of which 97% were Mossad agents. 4. 74% were in organ stealing/transplant business. Conclusion- 350% Jews in Dubai who are not up to anything good.

"Summary execution is not a valid legal tool available to any legitimate state." Tell that to the ME states which, by all accounts are "legitimate". As for passport forgery and theft, that is a long-standing and thriving business all over the world as a means to gain entry to countries for any number of reasons. Israel does NOT have a monopoly on this. Mabhouh must have been a high-value target and not a little sardine. Good riddance to him because he would not have surrendered himself to Israel for a trial. Comment on how Rigi had been arrested by Iran on board a plane flying between Kyrgyzstan in Central Asia and the Gulf Arab emirate of Dubai. It is now known that Dubai is a safe haven and transit for terrorists.

"But Israel has clearly set a (bad) example for the world in that regard.... " Don't ypu think the bad example was started in Munich in 1972?

Maybe.. but "il faudra s'y faire". Israel is a nuclear power and, as such, it is not subjected to regime change.

It looks indeed like a contradiction, but in fact, it isn't: Yes, most non-Jewish people will never buy the idea, that God has chosen the Jewish people to serve as good examples to the rest of the world. But as long as you claim, that you are chosen by him, they will continue to measure you by a different standard than the rest of the world, and I'm afraid rightly so. That is one of the main reasons, why Israel is getting so much "bashing", it really doesn't take a genius in order to understand that. No, Chanah, the problem lays clearly in the claim of speciality of the Jewish religion, and that comes automatically as long as you continue to believe, that God has chosen your people, and no one else. And speciality always leads in one form or another to seclusion, which is a problem indeed, especially if you find yourself in a difficult situation one day....

that doesn't know what Jewish faith is all about, and hate that Jews were the killer of Christ. We are choosen only for we had introduced to these world ethical monoteism, a religion based on a law, no more no less. A guy had asked to Rabi Akiva what is all about the Jewish religion. The answer was Love your neighbour as yourself, I'm your God. Practice it, all the other things are detail. We all know what Chirstian Europe had done in the Name of God to the Jews for centuries long how you had executed millions of Jews. At least we are trying to minimaze the killings. No one is immune if he/she had Jewish blood in his hands. I'm %100 sure that if there were any other state in place of us, these colateral damages would be 100 times more. Its sufficient to look at what NATO is doing in Afghanistan now adays. Swiss HR champion first try to give freedom to the Jews to slaughter their animals in Swis Not to impose them how to slaughter the animals. Where is the Swiss democracy.

....by leaving out half of my sentence in his post. Sorry mate, but you just confirmed, that some of the prejudices against RIGHT-WING Israelis/ Diasporas are indeed true. Again, I would like to emphasize the word "RIGHT-WING".....

....you should have read my # 104 before commenting...:)

or land theft or Ethnic cleansing etc etc. Your problem is you want us to overlook your belief that you are chosen and better than us. That that means you get extra duties is your problem. BTW ---WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO CARRY OUT THOSE ETRA DUTIES.

than most of us! "But she stressed that until the matter is cleared up by investigators, the EU would not jump to conclusions."

Although my opinions on Israel generally are not germane to this particular issue,I would like to state them for clarity. I had stood and cried in Yad Vashem, I have honoured the temple wall,I deeply respect jewish culture and history and I despise with all my heart anti-semitism.The murder of 6 million jews was an unspeakable evil.But I have also seen the imprisionment and devastation of Gaza,the destruction of its economy,1000's dead,illegal use of weapons,illegal settlements,and now Israel's infernal wall that scars the land;a prision wall that Israel is building around itself with its own people both as prisoners & prison guards. Israel is destroying itself politically & morally from within

i have written on this blog twice but haaretz chose not to publish my comments - inetersting! let me tell you: Mossad has killed him, a possibility but not a certainty! other options: being a etrorist as notorious a s he was a number of other reasons could have motiavted others to do him what he desreved; hamas for misappropriating the large funds at his disposal, the iranians for defying what they have told him to do; the syrians: ditto [see The Iranians[ the israelis for murdering 2 israeli soldires ''off duty'' some 20 yeras back. also: does anyone believe that the Mossad woulod risk the exposure or lives of 18+ of their agents in hostile teritory [dubai] for one shady terrorist -utter nosnsense. last: the dubai police came up with their investigative results as fast as it occured , are they that good?rubbish. israel: ignore all tehm all since they are ploeasd as i am for having one Rat less above ground.

"... the Jewish religion, it is and remains THE main source for the trouble you are encoun- tering on this planet, ..." Typical antisemitic argument we heard from Nazis and other Jew haters, blaming on Jews evry ill of this world!

Why do I have to "grow up". Considering the childish, petulant nature of your posts it seems it is you who needs to do a bit of growing up. Now about your quote from Deuteronomy: I suppose this was said because it was the Israelites who accepted God's commandments (which form the basis of the Judeo-Christian ethic on which the entire western civilization is based) - but had you bothered to continue reading (instead of simply quoting the "incriminating" passage from one yof your trash sites), you would know that Deut. 14:2 is followed by pages of obligations and duties. Where are the privileges? It is obviously you,with your self-righteous, snide comments, who thinks you are far better than I am. Correct me if I am wrong.

Noel,Your cheap personal abuse is more a red herring and, as it happens, untrue. I am neither anti-Israeli or pro-palestinian, but I am pro-justice. I have both been in Israel and have Israeli friends. But let me deal with the substance of your "points". As already stated there is strong prima facie evidence of Israeli involvement(see my earlier post).Secondly summary execution is not a valid legal tool available to any legitimate state. And lastly you are right, several EU passports were used and in all cases, the sovereignty of those states, the safety of their citizens, and the integrity of their identity has been abused or compromised.IF Israel did this,then is not the actions of a friendly state. If you have any interest in the rule of law and the integrity of European passports, as well as opinions on what counts as legitimate state actions then you too, and all reasonable Israeli's should share my concerns on this matter

Channel 2 and the Jerusalem Post are reporting that Cipora Julienn Kohn is set to replace Meir Dagan, as the head of the Forging Passport Ministry, who is not happy about the move and is scheduled to meet Bibi by week's end.

"But it still doesn`t change the fact, that you continue to believe, that God has somehow given you a "special role" on this planet, namely to serve as good examples to the rest of this world." Well yes, to serve as a good example to others - what's wrong with that? Tikkun Olam is a very important concept in Judaism (go ask the Rabbi). But the gap between that and harboring feelings of superiority is huge - there is no connection between them. Anyone (including Jews) who believes this gives them privileges or makes them superior is deluded and totally out of line. So why do you even bring this issue up - unless you have no proper understanding of the concept? And if the rest of the world don't "buy this ides in the fiirst place", why would they hold us to higher expectations? Isn't that a bit (very) hypocritical? The flaw is not in the JEwish religion - it's in those who don't or refuse to unstand the true concept.

"You protest too much! I do not consider your comments as being representative of the Irish feelings on this matter, rather those of a liberal pro-Palestine movement member who has not been able to get recognition for his anti-Israeli views."Noel Do you read the papers--noel--I dont mean those with the Page Three syndrome. "Firstly, there is no evidence pointing to who was responsible,"Noel A simple denial would solve the problem???. "secondly there are not many people who are sad that the terrorist has been exterminated," Noel. You said that in item above.# "thirdly Irish passports were not the only passports used in the operation. " Noel. A perfectly stupid remark and qualifies for the staus of "verbal dioreaha". (your spelling). Are you home alone noel.

It is obvious, but perhaps worth noting that while governments and news media companies may not want to condone assassinations, I'd bet the majority of peace loving individuals on this planet (even if they don't express it for whatever reason) are rather pleased to be rid of such a chap. (Whether it's legal, moral, politically incorrect, scary, intimidating...etc)

"I for one have no objections to Irish passports being used to achieve such results. A terrorist who admitted murdering two Israeli soldiers (not killed in conflict) has reaped his just reward." Noel It is a good thing you are not in charge of our foreign affairs. Incidentally it is common to go after the enemy as did Israel.Killing IDF --who are part of the occupation forces is a perfectly leagl act. Where they went wrong was doing it on neutral soil and compromising the safety of sovereign states and their citizens in the process. Such as your fellow Irish citizens.But why would that mater---eh Noel. Who got to you Noel. Must be that aroma of assassination that permeates Béal na mBláth. Did your ancestors carry that act of murder out Noel????.

Excellent point. And exactly why white phosphorous bombs had to be used in Gaza.

so far labarse we have had more suspects and more causes of death than the fbi wanted lists for 70 years! an irishman should know all about terrorism which has been going on in the irish vicinity since 1915.

I admire the freedom of the press in Israel...wish that were the case everywhere. However if it's proven that Israel was behind the killing of Mabhouh such freedom will be meaningless and only earn Israel frustration and possibly contempt from the rest of the free world. It has to be difficult living in an area of constant pressure and threats but your freedom and democratic government also carry the obligation of fairness and proper behavior. I sense a very real wave of aggravation and disappointment in the U.S. with Israel. You're losing friends due to possibly high handed behavior. Think it over...!

Christine, If everything is subjective then let me ask you some subjective questions. In your opinion, is Hammas a terrorist organisation? Would you be happy if Hammas could set up their headquarters quite publicly in Oslo? You're welcome to give a subjective answer too.

And why do you think that is the case?" Answer: to annoy people like you - sincerely yours, meir

You appear to, considering the number of your posts on here, to have a bad case of verbal dioreaha. You protest too much! I do not consider your comments as being representative of the Irish feelings on this matter, rather those of a liberal pro-Palestine movement member who has not been able to get recognition for his anti-Israeli views. Firstly, there is no evidence pointing to who was responsible, secondly there are not many people who are sad that the terrorist has been exterminated, thirdly Irish passports were not the only passports used in the operation.

Poo on France who cares what a second rate bunch has to say about real people. France is very quite when islamics maim and murder at will. Even when it is done to them.

I guess Chris has never passed through Ben Gurion airport if he thinks security is eased up ;for anyone. The questioning starts before you even drive into the parking lots. Theere is no automatic path into the area from which one departs or enters Israel. Scrutiny is very close, which is why the Arabs seek land close to the airport, so they can attack it from areas they control.

that's what she said on ynet. I am really saddened by how white or black Israel sees the world. And this comes from the left, which is what is sad about it... That's like a declaration of war on the entire arab world.

and it,s revision.

So Israels heroes always called first---not the least bit naive ---are you. BTW, I searched and searched but could not find one instance where your "Heroes" sent warnings in the following attacks.NB these represent just a small fraction of attacks carried out against innocent civillians in open Markets. You are naive at best Liza. "Selected Irgun, Haganah and Lehi attacks Main articles: List of Irgun attacks during the 1930s and Killings and massacres during the 1948 Palestine War * June 30, 1924. According to Israeli journalists Shlomo Nakdimon and Shaul Mayzlish, Dutch Jew Jacob Israël de Haan was assassinated by Avraham Tehomi on the orders of Haganah leader Yitzhak Ben-Zvi[19][page needed] for his anti-Zionist political activities and contacts with Arab leaders.[20] * 1937?1939 The Irgun conducted a campaign of violence against Palestinian Arab civilians resulting in the deaths of at least 250. * November 6, 1944 Lehi assassinated British minister Lord Moyne in Cairo. The action is condemned by the Yishuv, but the bodies of the assassins are brought home from Egypt in 1975 to a state funeral and burial on Mount Herzl. * 1944?1945 The killings of several suspected collaborators with the Haganah and the British mandate government during the Hunting Season. * July 26, 1946 The bombing of British administrative headquarters at the King David Hotel, killing 91 people ? 28 British, 41 Arab, 17 Jewish, and 5 others. Around 45 people were injured. * 1946 Railways and British military airfields were attacked several times. * October 31, 1946 The bombing by the Irgun of the British Embassy in Rome. * July 25, 1947 The Sergeants affair: When death sentences were passed on two Irgun members, the Irgun kidnapped two British sergeants and threatened to kill them in retaliation if the sentences were carried out. When the threat was ignored, the hostages were murdered. Afterwards, their bodies were taken to an orange grove and left hanging by the neck from trees. An Improvised Explosive Device was set. This went off when one of the bodies was cut down, seriously wounding a British officer.[21] * December 1947 ? March 1948 Numerous attacks on Palestinian Arabs in the context of Civil War after the vote of the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine * January 5?6, 1948' The Semiramis Hotel bombing, carried out by the Haganah (or, according to some sources, Irgun) resulted in the deaths of 24 to 26 people * April 1948 the Deir Yassin massacre carried out by the Irgun and Lehi, killed between 107 and 120 Palestinian villagers,[22] the estimate generally accepted by scholars.[23][24] * September 17, 1948, Lehi assassination of the United Nations mediator Count Bernadotte, negotiatior of the release of about 31,000 prisoners including thousands of jews from German concentration camps during World War II,[25][26] whom Lehi accused of a pro-Arab stance during the cease-fire negotiations.

The concept of "choseness" does not mean better than other people. But Swiss Dino admits he understands little of what Judaism is all about. But we sort of knew that, didn't we?

terrorists? And what about Mahboud's passport? A fake? Investigation needed by the sanctimonious EU? BTW, where are the leftist progressives questioning what a "revolutionary" like Mahboud was doing living high on the hog at a fancy Dubai hotel while the masses of Gaza are suffering?

"Absolutely comical!! I would not be surprised that the story will keep changing and they will finally come up with the determination that he actually killed himself because he was so frightened by this ARMY of assasins who were after him."Eli Do tell Eli. Did he take the poison first then strangle him self unnecessarliy 0r vice Versa. Is it a Zionist trick. Sure would like to see Israel choking while making a straight foward denial. ????.

Oh for heaven's sake already. Dribbling of "new" information has turned this into a soap opera. Mossad did it, it cannot be proven, it will never be proven, the EU has made its statement, and it's time to move on.

It was revenge and justice for his responsibility in kidnapping and killing of two Israeli soldiers We never did finish up the discussion of the PLO Charter revision, seems you ducked out when confronted with facts to counter your usual flatulence

ClearCut, you said it. "...there are courts of law and people are innocent till proven guilty..." This includes Mossad doesn't it? Also, whose courts shall we use? Those of the UK?, the US?, Hammas?, Israel?

The Mossad is too cheap to even pay the way of their own hit squads. The steal identities and take out credit on the stolen names. Identity theft is a major problem in this day and age. It appears that Israel is part of that problem. The more you study Israels activities, the more they look like a Mafia family.

Well, Mr. SM, you ask whether "killing an enemy killer involved in procuring arms to kill more people is illegal". The answer is: in general, yes. Otherwise killing everyone in the Israeli government would be legal, wouldn't it? But in any case, you seem to have some difficulty in understanding. The EU states are not objecting to Israel's killing Mabhouh. That doesn't mean they support it, but that is not what is under discussion. Their objection is to a (supposedly) friendly state forging their passports. Do you think the Israelis would approve if Britain had used forged Israeli passports to kill someone in Moscow?

What was the real value of Mabhouh that was worth risking the lives of so many Israeli agents (so far 11 identified by picture, with four more that may also have pictures attached)? As far as is known, Mabhouh was involved in the abduction and murder of 2 Israeli soldiers in 1989 (for which his home in Gaza was blown up at the time), and in recent years was involved in arms purchases for Hamas in Iran and perhaps elsewhere. If such a man is assassinated is he "irreplaceable"? Sounds nonsensical. Iran is a more than willing seller, perhaps even a free giver. With Mabhouh gone, his position can be replaced overnight. Mossad must have seen the job as a "challenge" to itself, to risk such a ridiculously high number af agents as prestige. Unfortunately, Prime Minister Netanyahu has a hard time considering the effects of his actions, and approved the job. (He is the minister directly in charge of Mossad.) Somebody in the government should start comparing potential gain to cost ratio

What is so coincidental about that? You are trying to scrape the barrel for reasons to finger who could be responsible for the assasination of a terrorist. I for one have no objections to Irish passports being used to achieve such results. A terrorist who admitted murdering two Israeli soldiers (not killed in conflict) has reaped his just reward.

After all, the U.S. is even cozier with the Chinese, who are a major source of loans to the USA Ever hear of forgeries and "Stolen Identities"? Watch TV, I.D. thesft prevention programs are being peddled constantly, you needn't worry, nobody would want to swipe yours

The guy was not "a Hamas official". The real question here is why Dubai was allowing an international terrorist chieftan to operate and travel freely in their country, under his own name! If it had been Bin Laden, there would have been a firestorm over Dubai harboring him, and nobody would care if it was 21 "assassins" with fake passports or a USAF sergeant flying a drone who killed him. The problem all these countries have is that they don't believe Jews have the same right to defend themselves that their own militaries practice in identical situations. Well, that's what Israel is for, and if it was involved, it was doing its job. And if it wasn't involved, it should have been - Israel doesn't ask others to fight and die for it, unlike all those ingrate EU countries the US fought to defend, and unlike Kuwait, Iraq, Afganistan, UAE, Saudi Arabia etc. benefiting from 7000 Ameriucan lives and 3 trillion dollars spent (so far) at their behest.

Declan, I agree with you. The story today is that one of the false addresses used by the killers is just down the road from the Israeli embassy in Dublin. #43, please keep your vile racism and slander to yourself. You have absolutely no proof - in fact Ireland was one of the first to congratulate Israel on the foundation of the state. We did not support the Nazis in the Second World War but we could not support the British as they had done atrocious things in our own country so we remained neutral.

I agree that secret services often seek the 'edges' of the law, and with Mossad its no different. But the issue here is that The Israeli authorities / government always seem to think they can permit MORE then other western countries for whatever reason. Its seems to be a reacurring symptom of Israeli politians to think they are above others: when it comes to: illegal landgrabbing, ignoring UN resolutions, faking passports of western allies etc. Being critical about that kind of policies is NOT antisemitism (playing the victim/blame card when its not appropriate is emotional blackmaling), its something modern, western countries do to eachother, and as long as Israel cant deal with that it shows its not a grown up country.

a man is illegally running sophisticated iranian weapons into gaza, that have been and will continue to be used to target innocent civilians, and israel is expected to leave him be? Dubai didn't stop him from entering with false passports and using their soil to conduct illegal business..why? because they are onside with him...the IRA used false passports all the time, so does mi5, mi6, cia, kgb/fsb,and every other intelligence agency. This "sudden shock and revelation" on behalf of the EU is just sickening. If the EU won't stop what is going on in gaza, the west bank, syria, lebanon & iran, then israel has a right to stop it, by any means. If you people dont like that, I guess that's just too bad. How many civilians did obama kill yesterday? calling goldstone..come in goldstone...

it's fifteen killers. Before long they will add the entire State of Israel in the assasination... and that the cause of death will also keep changing as it has from the beginning. Absolutely comical!! I would not be surprised that the story will keep changing and they will finally come up with the determination that he actually killed himself because he was so frightened by this ARMY of assasins who were after him.

Your proof Israel is a safer place?

We are "More Sad" Mossad !! Shame on such an organization that is built on terror and horrible killing. The vedio made me feel sorry for Mr. Mabhouh and the savage way your conduct you criminal acts. Thanks to you, the whole world is against us now. Citizens of Israel: Don't be proud of this, it made you look like a bunch of savage hyenas attaking a sheep.

Of course she does. The only way her position can possibly be supported is by the use of violence. Whether it's bombing Iran, Lebanon, Syria, Turkey, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Manchester, Kings David's Hotel. Doesn't matter to her the only thing that matters is that her point of view is the view that is accepted, regardless of how many are killed. Same with Boomboom Netanyahu Avigdor (the nighclub bouncer) Lieberman and Danny (I thought up naughty chair diplomacy) Ayalon.

in the history of modern law has a murderer said in court yeah,i did it,but others do it,so its ok.and gotten away with it?thats basically the argument here.i agree that us and israel are now murder incorporated.but i dont support evil.

Mossad will continue carrying out operations which involve coming into countries illegally on both stolen passports and forged ones, one incident won't stop it happening again. It also wont stop assassinations of enemies of the state no matter what country they are in. Mossad has nothing to apologize for, it might of created a diplomatic incident but they did the job they are paid for because when they killed this terrorist it made Israel a safer place. All intelligence services do the same thing when the government wants them to and foreign governments even in what westerners like to consider the most civilized countries do exactly the same thing at times. so lets not condemn either Mossad or Israel for this because all countries do it they are just don't like to advertise the fact they bump people because they like to be seen an organization that breaks the law. Mossad is more open because it scares the enemy if they think no place is safe.

I think Israel takes the cake for arrogance. As for "defening themselves" tehre is no evidence that this illegal action, if carried out by Mossad, has made Israel any more secure. That argument does not hold water. Every action taken by Israel, its timing, has been for one reason and one only: to provoke. And why do you think that is the case?

The Israeli plot to kill this particular individual seems to have backfired spectacularly. Perhaps that is why the Dubai authorities at the behest of the Europeans allowed the Israelis to proceed with the hit. We then don't do anything about the illegal use of European passports in return for several favours, you know the kind of thing. I don't know anymore than you do, except that all the forged have a common link that points towards Israel's involveent, set up or Israel playing to the same rules as 1970? Will be interesting when the truth comes out as it will do.

She seems to be saying that extraterritorial execution killings carried out with the use of stoeln or forged passports is not only permissible but laudatory. Of course one persons terrorist is another persons freedom fighter. I am sure she would agree that those zionist fathers who blew up hotels, bus stations, shops, buses, razed villages and murder civilians when getting to the ones she would deem terrorists is just fine and neccesary for the security of the state. if Israel was behind this (not the first case, hardly) then she must be internationally sanctioned. And such illegal action hardly makes Israel more secure.

if you believe biblical nonsense. "According to the Torah, Israel's character as the chosen people is unconditional as it says in Deuteronomy 14:2, "For you are a holy people to YHWH your God, and God has chosen you to be his treasured people from all the nations that are on the face of the earth." Although the Torah also says, "Now therefore, if you will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then you shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people," God promises that He will never exchange His people with any other. Note every time anyone threatens boycotts on Israel the usual suspects emerge(you included) tellling we mortals how Jews invented everyting we poor mortals ned to allow us to exist. Grow up Channah s---anyone who thinks they are better than everyone else will always attract some well deserved distaste. You are not chosen enough to be an exception.

Petain was tried and condemned by De Gaulle for what he did. As for the Resistance, they did not have to kill civilians since no civilian Germans came to the invaded countries, threw the inhabitants out of their houses and stole their property. The German occupied us. They did not colonized us. Do you honestly think that our grand fathers would have just watched by if German citizens had moved into our towns and villages and slaughtered and deported us? Would you?

You say "The Pal children in homes and schools from where rockets were fired at Israeli civillians,knowing full well that all of it would attract RETURN fire? What about Pal children who were kept inside houses from which Hamas were firing during Cast Lead. Dont they count?" I say - Israel is the one who Judge Goldstone accused of using human shields, not Hamas. And Gaza is one of the most crowded places on earth and Israel has sealed the borders. Where was anyone supposed to flee?

Jews have a commmon ancestr and this is true of Jews all over the world. The cohanim, no matter what country or region they reside in, share a common gene, traceable to one male ancestor. He is never named, but in the Bible his name is Aaron, the brother of Moses and the first high priest. Other indicators trace bloodlines to three women, all of Middle Eastern origin. Yes, Judaism accepts converts, but those of us who can trace our ancestry back 6 centuries know who we are and where we came from.

....to explain that to me, I'm very well aware of the points you make. But it still doesn't change the fact, that you continue to believe, that God has somehow given you a "special role" on this planet, namely to serve as good examples to the rest of this world. The problem is: Though the rest of the world will never buy this idea in the first place, they will continue to put higher expectations on you, because of your claims, expectations that you will never be able to fulfill, because you are human beings like anybody else on this plant, capable of doing the same good and evil things. And that is and remains THE fundamental flaw with the Jewish religion, it is and remains THE main source for the trouble you are encoun- tering on this planet, and I'm afraid that won't change, till you will find the (spiritual) strength to make some modest "adjustments"....

If you think Swiss's comment about the Chosen People is a fact and that most Israeli Jews are "wEuropean converts" (whatever that means" you are one huge ignoramus.

"Cui bono "To whose benefit?"... is used either to suggest a hidden motive or to indicate that the party responsible for something may not be who it appears at first to be." Robert #94 So would you say this could also apply to the case of 9-11, Robert?

John You're worried about figures? How many innocent Jewish women and children had to die before a Jewish state came into existence. How many had their identities stolen? and were given numbers instead of names? How many were dehumanised and degraded by lies and propaganda? I can give you their names? Can you give me the names of your 10.000 innocent Palestinian women and children in Israeli prisons?

'Ten t'ousand Svedes ran t'rough de veeds, all chasin vun Norwegan.' It takes 15 Mossadniks to eliminate one little Hamasnik? Even the most passionate Israeli patriot might have hoped our secret service would be more efficient.

....nationalists in Israel and the Jewish religion". That's exactly the problem, dear Daniel, but I'm afraid that's your problem, not mine....:) P.S. I wouldn't call myself an expert when it comes to the Torah, but I doubt very much that your Holy scripture would condone greed, arrogance, trickyness and the humiliation of another people. But unfortunately those attributes have all become synonyms for right-wing Israel/Diaspora for most mainstream people around the world....

Hamas itself reported that their terrorist made a mistake by booking the hotel and buying the flight tickets online. Hence the EUROPEAN henchmen knew exactly about his whereabouts. I hope Mossad *ll investigate what the EUROPEANS* motive to kill him was. That they staged Israel is very transparent and telling: a clear statement from their part. The plot thickens.

just wondering where mabhouh's passport was issued from. Why did dubai allow him into their country if they knew he had a false passport. What passports do hamas members use..."peoples republic of gaza"

The name was used to apply for a German passport with proof that the person's mother was a German Jew who was murdered during the Holocaust. That is how the German Passport was obtained according to The Sunday Times. I do not know if this is possible or not under German Law.

More than 10,000 Palestinians held in israeli prisons,the vast majority held without charge,many of them women and childrenand you are worried about one member of an israeli terrorist unit.

Cui bono ("To whose benefit?", literally "as a benefit to whom?", a double dative construction) is a Latin adage that is used either to suggest a hidden motive or to indicate that the party responsible for something may not be who it appears at first to be. Commonly the phrase is used to suggest that the person or people guilty of committing a crime may be found among those who have something to gain, chiefly with an eye toward financial gain. The party that benefits may not always be obvious or may have successfully diverted attention to a scapegoat. So perhaps before we all rush to the obvious of Mossad, lets think again as to whom this death benefits most--IRAN???

I suggest you approach a Rabbi to teach you about the concept of the Chosen People before you make a complete fool if yourself. It has nothing to do with supriority or automatic rights to anything. In fat it carries with it more obligations than you would wish to have. There are however many Swiss out there who unjustifiably regard themselves as morally, culturally and intellectually superior to the rest of us. That's a fact.

IF in order for one to exist, the other has to be annihilated. This is an answer to your first question. Read the Hamas Charter to digest it with. Mind me reminding you that Haganah and Irgun always warned in advance about their planned explosions so that there would be no human casualties, which the Pal-terrorists never do. The Jews* intention was to make the British leave the country, not to kill them, whereas the purpose of Hamas is both to kill the Jews and push them into the sea; in other words, a genocide is their goal as well. My question to you is why should one be annihilated for the other to exist?

Why would the British Sports and Social want to kill an Arab on holiday in Dubai? Especially if we had id'd the bloke and asked nicely the Dubai authorities would have quietly arrested him and put him on a flight to Heathrow. Which is another reason why all fingers are pointing at Israel. The US, the UK the French damn even the Germans could have asked for his arrest and extradition. Arabs states usually comply because they don't want to be accused of being or having ties with the happy jihadis such as Al qaeda, or terrorist sponsors. Damn even Yemen is cooperating in the war on terror.

Mr. may I ask u when british soldiers were killed in your lovely country,if every Irish was hold responsible for.Why is it that every Israli is to be blamed even he is an ambassodor?

Chris you are forgetting something, the german passport holder, had dual citizenship USA/Israel, not german....He had no connection to germany other than his parents migrating to the USA. ISrael on the other hand had the documents of his (after his aliyaah) necessary to get a german passport.

There is no doubt about what they did.How many have been charged with murder? have you given the Russians the benefit of your adjectives? The people claiming Israel did it are from your side of the fence not mine. He was just holidaying in a 5 star hotel while Pals cry poor was he?Nothing to do with say organising middle men for transport in neutral ships etc etc?

Not so daft if you were sure of the target being in Dubai. But had only narrowed it down to him being in say three hotels. In which case three teams of five?

Seriously isn't it astonishing the level of hypocracy?? No matter what happens the Arabs started it and the Israelis retaliated. They are sooo quick to jump to the blame game but when it's them being blamed then they say 'no evidence'. The thing is about those Cipora-type ppl is when they speak of Arabs (without exception) there's always this tone of racism thats just sooooo obvious. And yet they have the nerve to call EVERYONE Anti-Semites even if it's just about a legal aspect of Israel. So basically everyone must follow with what they say and do and all Arabs are terrorists. They never ever ever speak in a manner where maybe just maybe the Arabs are also human beings who deserve a dignified life? Anyways I hope Cipora and her gang do donate their organs so they can be researched... Orwell would've had one hell of a field day.

The producers are ensuring it will be a complete show and is gauranteed to entertain. "So, Lintbrain, where is the show you promised?"FE So save your crisps and keep your calendar open. The show is coming to your PC sooner than you think.

no wonder Sweden*s FM, Carl Bildt, called it a "ridiculous murder" today in Brussel.

Joe there is no mistake here, nor am I applying a higher evidential standard to Israel. If you read carefully what I said there is a prima facie case for Israel to answer. British and German passports of actual Israeli citizens were used in this attack. The video evidence clearly shows these people were up to something in Dubai, (changing clothing, wigs and costumes etc), This clearly suggests that the passport holders were up to no good and Israel has a motive for wanting to kill this man. Ipso facto this makes a prima facie a link to Israel.

I know. I subscribed to Al Jazeera because Netanyahu said he was going to attack Iran, and brought a 40 inch flat screen LCD telly with High definition so as to watch it. I also increased the speed of my Internet You simply can't trust your politicians can you?

JW: "Innocent until proven guilty - Israel doesn`t need to prove its innocence find proof then take action." So if the Dubai police say they have enough evidence and so issue an arrest warrant for Dagan then you, for one, would have no problem with him being handed over to the Dubai plodders for his arrest and trial? After all, the place to run the ruler over that evidence is in a Dubai court, and not in the Israeli foreign ministry because, of course, the crime was committed within Dubai's jurisdiction, not Israel's.

I bought beer and chips, arranged the an additional sofa in front of the telly, no show!

Not from Cipora, of course, nor from PETER SM, nor any of the other usual suspects. But, honestly, NOW should be the time when Lieberman or Netanyahu stands up and says: "It wasn't us, guvna'. Don't know who dunnit but, honest, it weren't us!". Liberman: "The Arabs have a tendency to blame Israel for anything that happens in the Middle East," Errrr, that isn't actually a denial. Lieberman: "If anyone other than the Media would have claimed otherwise we would have addressed the issue, but as that there are no such allegations, there is no need to address it further." Err, that isn't a denial either. How very odd.

... between right-wing nationalists in Israel and the Jewish religion. Why so prejudiced about the Jews, Martin? Why give this bad picture of Swiss people?

Sarkozy says they cant accept such executions for Hamas killers and accuse Isarel of ID theft. Hamas have stolen Shalit's life, thay have stolen his identity. I suppose that kind of theft is ok for the EU fat cats. Where are the demands that Hamas return their stolen goods?

Hamas didn't exist 60 years ago, they are true children of the occupation. Given their history over the past 60 years accusing Palestinians of genocide is simply grotesque.

Israel has not provided one iota of proof that this individual was involved in arms smuggling from Iran to Gaza. Nor has Israel explained why this individual was in Dubai, when in reality he could have flown straight from Syria to Iran. Until proven otherwise this individual was having a holiday in Dubai when he was cruelly and barbarically murdered by persons unknown who appear to be travelling on forged passports using the names of Israeli citizens who have dual nationality with the countries of the forged passports. Who may or may not be Israeli agents working for mossad under the direct orders of Netanyahu. No amount of spin by you or other Israelis and Israel firsters changes that central concept. Murder is pretty much illegal in every part of the world, certainly in western democracies or those claiming to be a western style democracy. Lets wait and see shall we? before coming to a conclusion.

Hamas can be beaten. You guys should be more worried about world opinion. And using EU passports when executing people perhaps wasnt a very smart move. Dont get me wrong. I support Israel, and I couldnt care less about Mabhouh. But come on, lets face it. Its also a war of information, opinion and propaganda. And that is certainly not a war that Israel is winning.

Why not a diplomatic passport virtually guarantees entry into a country and if caught like the two israelis in Jordan using Canadian passports. You could wave it around and demand to be released. I'm glad you don't believe that diplomatic passports can't be forged. But we are talking Mossad, and obviously they would be to stupid to think of that.

And other long range missiles that can hit many kilometers inside Israel. Working towards the obliteration of Israel by Islam and to the final battle to bring on the secret Immam Droll nest ce pas?

"forged diplomatic passports?" i very seriously doubt that.

How about if they were forged diplomatic passports? Plenty of diplomats pass through Ben Gurion Airport these days. You know Israeli officals asking if they can check the passport giving it a quick scan. Plenty of technology allowing such a thing. I'm sure even you have one of those 3 in 1 printers. Your clutching at straws, the information coming out of Dubai is more controlled now to protect the identities of the innocent. It could be those already ID'd as forgeries could be diplomatic passports. You don't know neither do I. Interestingly the address on one of the Irish passports is an empty building near the Israeli embassy in Dublin.

Kills it's civillians as their primary target,refuses peace,now or ever in the future. If they wanted their own state they could have had it 60 years ago. They chose war terror genocide no peace no borders and rejection of peace plans and still refuse to negotiate,

The same mistake is made time and time again - you hold Israel up to a level of scrutiny that is not applied within your own courts. Innocent until proven guilty - Israel doesn't need to prove its innocence find proof then take action. Until then, allow for the possible involvement of other parties.

Palestinians who resist the occupatiion are terrorists and must be hunted down and eliminated regardless what laws the rogue state uses. Any countries complaining about their sovereignty or the safety of their citizens are anti semitic and supporters of terroism. On the other hand Israel,s heroes---Irgun Stern and Hagganah are revered as national heroes when they shot blew up or other wise eliminated British occupiers. The zionist mind is a truly strange object. Perhaps future civilisations can learn something poking around in those dark muddy canyons of contradiction. Hopefully psm and Cj Kohn have donated their organs to medical science---wow what a mine of research material.

....right-wing Israelis/Diasporas like you. I just don't like you guys (at all). That's it !! :)

....from the "chosen" part in your religion..??? If you are willing to do so, that's fine, but until that has happened, I'm afraid you will have pretty bad arguments, my dear compatriot from Geneva.....

how marvelous. now if he could only have some logic, his posts would make more sense. now whose diplomatic passports were used? they were most certainly not israel's.

"Montgomery, I think Israel shouldn`t wait for an Irish decision,it should close its embassy in Dublin now."Nemesis Plese ensure me you will campaign for it. You have my unstinting support.

1. At least 22 people entered the blessed city this year - all - including undead birthday boy - on forged documents. 2. At least 66% - 2 out of 3 humans visible on the video in the royally devoid of humanity airport - were immediately suspect of murder. 3. About 99% of them were Jews, of which 97% were Mossad agents. 4. 74% were in organ stealing/transplant business. Conclusion- 350% Jews in Dubai who are not up to anything good.

lol, dude, that has to be the most ridiculous comment I have ever read. You wrote ,"most Israeli Jews are eastern European converts". It wouldn't be so funny if it were sad. You have no idea about the Jewish people so please stop commenting about us. I find it humorous to see how everyone wants to tell us who we are when they have absolutely no knowledge of us or our customs. Typical racists.

#33 Ireland which is "bankrupt" has never been a friend of the Jews nor of Israel. Never recognised Israel in 1948 and supported Nazi Germany."liliane You need to be careful liliane---considering your state oppressed us for 650 years--and you think we should overlook that fact. Ireland did not support Germany--it remained neutral for the above stated reasons. Jews however did collaborate with the Nazis. Here --read for your self---how your heroes planned and carried out murders of your fellow Brits????then crawl back in your hole before you get yourself in deeper. "In 1940, Lehi proposed intervening in World War II on the side of Nazi Germany. It offered assistance in "transferring" the Jews of Europe, in return for Germany's help in expelling Britain from Mandate Palestine. Late in 1940, Lehi representative Naftali Lubenchik was sent to Beirut where he met the German official Werner Otto von Hentig. Lubenchik told von Hentig that Lehi had not yet revealed its full power and that they were capable of organizing a whole range of anti-British operations.

it should close its embassy in Dublin now.

what they did was hoping the world think was to accuse mossad:)but it back-fired!The truth will come out

need proof of Swiss Dino's hatred of Jews

c'est pas drole ce que tu viens d'ecrire, meme degoutant. what arms purchase? do you think gazans are armed? or can by any mean bring arms? israel is fighting unarmed civilians for your knowledge. if mabhouh wanted to defend his people than he is a hero, and he is in his death much braver than the trained monkeys who killed him, and now hiding in their shadows. a bientot.

Seems to me Dino was simply stating facts and that doesn't make him "anti-semitic" Actually it is Israel as a country that is blantantly "anti-semitic" as arabs are semites and most Israeli Jews are eastern European converts and not even semites like you.

You forgot to mention the Turks, Al Qaeda, perfidious Albion, the Sudanese, Chavez, Fidel Castro, the North Koreans and after the veto China. It is illegal to use a forged passport under international law. What part of that do you not understand?

Your comments are both spurious and inaccurate. As you are no doubt well aware, Ireland was neutral in WW2 but nonetheless vast numbers of Irish citizens fought the nazi's in the British army and the presence of an embassy indicates clearly that Ireland recognises Israel. What seems to bug you is that we also equally recognise the rights of the Palestinians, which I think is a fair position. Stop sidelining the issue Lilliane and address the questions that Israel needs to answer rather than engage in stupid and irrelevant mud-racking; it is facile, boring and childish.

Obviously the more there are there is more chance of establishing a pattern of how the passports were forged and by whom. If Avigdor (the nightclub bouncer) Lieberman, Israelis and Israel firsters hoped this story would just go away. It looks like you are going to be disappointed. Seems to me the fallout might not have been worth the domestic political benefit to Netanyahu. Regardless of what he is prepared to do to ensure his name is on the Prime Minister's Office door.

Israel,s response is ????. There is not enough evidence. An innocent person would say. You have no evidence---you could not have --I am innocent. It is very simple---if you are innocent you say so. Well are you innoccent Israel or would you prefer to be ambiguous about it. Until we get the evidence and then you go into denial mode or say it is all a Pallywood production. Keep it up guys---the hole is getting deeper and soon will swallow you up. Au Revoir---good riddance and you wont be missed. That is aimed at the psms/assolute s,s/hardmnan,s/Eitans/yishaiCohens et al. You have run out of steam guys---

The "modern" Irish are mostly, kind, decent, and forgiving people. What they allowed their Church and state to do in the past covers many faults. The extremists will always have some tradition and followers and often support themselves by violent crimes on a worldwide basis.

According to international law occupied folk have a right to defend themselves against their occupiers. How then can buying and transporting arms into Gaza be illegal? According to international law Israel's occupation and theft of Palestinian land is illegal. How then can buying and transport of arms into Israel be legal?

the palestinians have slaughtered israelis within tel aviv, jerusalem and nearly everywhere in the country. hamas had been firing missiles into israeli population centers for eight years. indeed, in case you did not know, the plo had waged terror attacks within europe. hezbollah did the same, in particular in argentina against innocent civilians, as of now, jews in melmo, sweeden, are forced to flee from muslim intimidation. you can be proud of such "resistance."

If you're gonna frame the Israelies, then you will get an address close to the embassy. Duh- Wake-up! thicko

... and by how many ?! "Four more European passport-holders suspected in Dubai killing". What about trying to find some ' Arab passport holders " ?!

Thats what happens when you deliberately use children as human shields. Perhaps you are right, the children do not matter to Hamas. So long as it generates a bad image of Israel, anything goes in hamasland. How else can the genetically programed Israel hating media and journalists sell stories.

israel has no obligation in this matter. there is no evidence at all of israeli involvement.

#33 Ireland which is "bankrupt" has never been a friend of the Jews nor of Israel. Never recognised Israel in 1948 and supported Nazi Germany.

It seems more like an invasion than a killing. It is amasing that the Dubai authorities or someone at a hotel did not see and report something unusual. Dubai had become an important investment area for many Irish real estate investors who are now trying to recover their funds or some part of them.

#9: Your sarcastic comment about Jews being "the Chosen People" shows your true "Antisemitic Colours" which is so common in Switzerland.

... and by how many !? "Four more European passport-holders suspected in Dubai killing" . The many different number of 'passport-holders' used, made this case a United Nation problem !

French arragance to tell the Jews not to defend themselves.

on an arms purchasing mission till he got his desired martyrdom in a 5 star hotel. Maintenant he has les virgins et le booze aussi.

"let me also remind you that those who did resist, did not slaughter innocent civilians." That's because there were no German civilians in France at the time. All Germans in France were associated with the German military. Now, had Germany decided to send German civilians to replace french civilians in Paris by force, then you can bet that they would've become targets of the resistance. Civilians that are "used" by military powers to serve the goals of that military become identified with that military - especially in foreign lands. A good example are the CIA agents that were blown off in a military base in Afghanistan.

UAE claims 4 more europeans were involved, but how do we know they were europeans? they could just as easily be americans, australians, iranians, afrikaners, russians or icelanders... anyone might carry a forged passport as witnessed by Mr. Mabhouh who had at least five. Seems UAE practices racial profiling...

Cipora, the issue can be easily sorted. Let Israel issue a catagorical denial of any involvement in Dubai, agree to co-operate in an international investigation, provide evidence and agree to extradite anyone found guilty. If it transpires that someone is trying to implicate Israel then it will be demonstrated as such. Somehow I don't think that is going to happen.

It was many times that I had visited British factories and it always strucked me: many persons doing job that would be assigned to fewer persons elsewhere.Innefective.

For years Israel asked for permission to open an embassy here and eventually the Irish government agreed to it, but not without some reservations, I think. If it is demonstrated that Israel has abused it's presence as a guest in our country - (and I think there is at least prima facie evidence that it might have), then our Israeli guests should be politely sent home and it's embassy closed. These are the kind of consequences that Israel should face if the allegations against it are proven true.

It may be worth mentionning to the many people here who seem unfamiliar with European law that defrauding passports is a criminal offence and that people convicted for committing it are liable to spending many years in prison. In a time when terrorism is on the rise, such practices are unacceptable.

with your logic superieure, killing israeli leaders is justified as well! Non?

calls and bookings that can be monitored by any intelligence agency in the World,including his brothers. China is actually close to Iran and refuses to take part in a boycott that would benefit Israel.A boycott that would get them CHEAPER oil. Do you read the news much or just write.

20 men and one woman to kil one middle eaged man. If this is heroism I will drink one bottle of red wine without any mezza.

why would the mossad, if it was the mossad, use an address right next to the israeli embassy? this fact points to an attempt to implicate israel.

let me remind you that there was very little european rsistance to the nazis. let me also remind you that france had a collaborationist regime under petain. let me also remind you that those who did resist, did not slaughter innocent civilians.

France has always been an odd man out in world affairs. While itself taking steps to ban the hijab or burqa, it is now preaching to Israel about the ills of violence. France's security is not at stake. It is in Israeli interests to protect its nationals and society from the scourge of terror. Israeli actions need to be commended, not condemned.

to kill more people is illegal? vraiment?

how many europeans does it take to eliminate one hamas terrorist?

The Pal children in homes and schools from where rockets were fired at Israeli civillians,knowing full well that all of it would attract RETURN fire? What about Pal children who were kept inside houses from which Hamas were firing during Cast Lead. Dont they count?

is Sarkozy without doubt and the same can be said of Kouchner and France. The truth is the status quo is unstainable and the two states solution inevitable. Get used to it.

Remember that the "archterrorists" of today might be the heroes and presidents of tomorrow. European Resistance was deemed terrorist by the Nazis, Nelson Mandela was deemed a terrorist, so were the Algerians fellagahs resisting the French occupation of their country. So you see, labels do change, when the power balance tilts.

The organisation behind this execution tried to make it look like natural causes!They underestimated Dubai's level of investigation, now Europe and interpol are involved the truth will come out.

That is what you say, and that is correct so now use it in this case.

isn't it pretty cozy with the chinese?

Remember that the "archterrorists" of today might be the heroes and presidents of tomorrow. European Resistance was deemed terrorist by the Nazis, Nelson Mandela was deemed a terrorist, so were the Algerians fellagahs resisting the French occupation of their country. So you see, labels do change, when the power balance tilts.

It is reported today in the Irish Times that the above fake passport holder used an address within a short walking distance from the Israeli Embassy in the same district.Israel's Irish ambassador claims he knew nothing about the Dubai operation the other day. Now isn't that a strange coincidence?

the blowing up of the Greenpeace ship rainbow Warrior that killed some sailors in the south pacific. France is a nation of grubby hypocrisy. Greenpeace is not involved in terror.

the terrorist had at least five passports, four of which were fake. the uae has contradictory reports conserning which passport he used to gain entry.

Israeli gov.t apologists continue to try and muddy the waters on this issue. Claims of double standards "anti-semitism", historical European guilt, Israeli victimhood,the only democracy in the ME, vicious attacks on anyone who dares criticise Israel, everyone else is doing the same etc etc are the predictable defences put out EVERY TIME. The issue is a simple one. Did Israel ILLEGALLY use other nations passports to carry out an ILLEGAL "hit/murder" in Dubai? Does Israel believe it can justifiably ignore international law, undermine the sovereignty of other nations, endanger other country's citizens? If the STRAIGHT-FORWARD answer to these questions is YES then Israel must accept the consequences plain & simple. You cannot both respect the law AND break it.

400 dead Gaza children in Operation Cast Lead. Or don't they matter? Are they not children?

his family name was just omitted. Issuing the family name on the ID is not a must in most ME countries.

according to uae reports, al-mabhouh was on his way to china. what was this hamas terrorist's business in china.

If you are taught that you are "God's chosen people", the temptation must automatically be a lot bigger to make yourself THE judge about life and death, without any kind of annoying legal proceedings (by committing so called "targeted killings", assassinations abroad etc....). However, the fact, that our American friends have also started with that rather troublesome practice, clearly shows, that this is not exclusively a problem of the Jewish religion. But Israel has clearly set a (bad) example for the world in that regard....