Likud Min.: We are in the hands of a terrible U.S. government

I am in disbelief about Obama calling the Jews the "occupiers" at the UN address speaking about areas in Israel he wants to hand over to arab enemies of israel. How can this anti-USA anti-Israel man get elected?, by the left wing uninformed,the ignorant, anti-Christian, anti- respect for the Holy Scriptures which God said the land belongs to the Jews forever! There is no negotiation or compromise with Jehovah, what He has spoken is what He will protect, forever. US Christians stand with Israel now and pray for the peace of Jerusalem everyday. Love to all

You maintain the US does nothing but build its own interests. If so, the US would dump the Israeli burden immediately. The US has been a steadfast Israeli ally for over 60 years. For all those years, the US protected Israel in the UN with vetoes, guaranteed Israel's international loans and supported Israel with aid, last year $3 billion. As of 2008 US aid to Israel since 1949 totaled $103.6 billion, plus interest lost on grants, unpaid loans etc. With everything, total cost to US is over $3 trillion. In addition, the US has consistently sacrificed its own national interests in the ME to support and further those of Israel. Many Americans believe our national interests lie in the Arab world, not in Israel. Arab nations provide oil, fought with us in the Gulf war, give us military bases, support the US in the IMF, World Bank and the UN. Some Arab allies provide superb intelligence on Al Qaeda and the Taliban. Israel provides none of that. You should hope the US remains naive.

My friend, Ehud, you have a few facts confused in your posting. The money that is gifted to israel every year is from the US Government and therfore, American taxpayers--not private companies, as you wrote. Also, the $ 2.7 billion just for military purchases is the single largest gift to any country each and every year--not a "fraction" as you wrote. Also, the US gift of $2.7 bil represents over 10% of the Israeli miltary budget. You are right about many other things that the US does for Israel.

Since you think that the U.S. government is terrible when will you stand up and demand that the U.S. stop sending billions of our tax dollars to you? When will you demand that the U.S. and Israel stop joint military exercises? When will you demand that the U.S. stop using their veto in the UN to protect Israel? My guess, Ms. Big Mouth, is that the answer is Never!

now i'll tell you what i've told others: you obviously don't know me well enough to say what you've just said about me. and since you seem to have developed the proclivity for gratuitous innuendo, perhaps you need to join the rest of the zealots in their circular room of perpetual paranoia.

never know what happens in 3 years,its a dangerous world,who is annoying the whole world?,only you know who.

the bond between the U.S and Israel has been weakened to its lowest point since the initial declaration of statehood by Ben Gurion due to Obama.

Slam who wish today, the reality Israel is on its way to be abandoned by the American people if it doesn't bring itself into compliance with Int'l law. People won't accept your government's contempt for he law of the land anymore. There is just so much good people will take before they take matters into their own hands and show them what they think of their reckless disregard for the Palestinian peoples' sovereign and human rights. Dutch

But it's not the US government, it's our own.

and of course jim the truth comes down from on high to your front door? as they say in the usa "you dont know sh---"

Of course the perpetrators of 9/11, Hassan of Fort Hood, the beheading fellows in Iraq, the bombers in Europe, the suicide "freedom fighters" in Israel, and eric himself who loves them so much, are close to Heaven. Just wait for the Heavenly presents Iran is preparing for all of us so that we won't go one by one to Heaven, but all of us together.

Livnat never had any culture, only small-minded personal political interests, always ready to appeal to the lowest instincts. Despite criticism of the Obama administration in the US (just read the Washington Post) and in Israel, what she said is unforgiveable. She should be fired (not immediately, otherwise she would present herself as a martyr of free speech). Having said that, Ally's "spoiled child approach" is condescending and unsupported by facts. The money Israel receives to buy weapons (exclusively from US companies!) is a fraction of the money given by the US to countries where the US is badmouthed on a daily basis in vulgar ways and by state-sponsored TV movies. It is also a tiny fraction of Israel's budget, and withholding it would virtually have no impact. Other things the US does for Israel are much more important!

"We have fallen into the hands of a terrible Israeli administration." This remark is mine and does not represent the stance of my cat!

" ... the entire world will call Israel liars." (L. Livnat, as quoted by Yanir Yagna) Not Israel, dummy, but your Prime Minister. In 1994, it was Yitzhak Rabin (may his memory be blessed) who was awarded a Nobel Peace Prize, not Israel. Some people are just too dumb to grasp the difference.

Ben Gurion, Golda, & Livaat. Ben Gurion once said,that Golda was the only MAN in his Cabinet !

- God chose Israel to make a people for His Name. Not America. Jews in Israel would do well to freeze the US relation for 10 months and see where that leads. Hopefully closer to God. Don't you think a better way to God would be to remember that there was a precondition called the Ten Commandments?

"The ultimate paranoid delusion is fulfilled. The entire world is out to get Israel! Netanyahu is right, and only Netanyahu can save Israel by starting a war with the world." Blah, blah, blah. There are no term limits in the U.S. Congress, and guess how pro-Israeli THEY are.

the fact that your country has a lot of money does not mean that we are your playmobile pieces. the states does nothing but build it's own interests in the middle east. Livni is not a spoiled child - but you definitely have the charactersitics of an over indulged despot ally. israelis take money given by the states, but the states only gibe what is in their interests. when the states wants us to harm our long term interests for the short term interests of a one term administration - well we are wise to protest.....even if YOU ally feel that you can buy the world and put it in your pocket. don't worry- the states gives us money only to the extent that it benefits them. so do not feel too hard done by...but curb the "we own you and you must be eternally grateful bull" it just shows you up for what you are.

years of israeli appeasement have brought the present situation in which more danegeldt has to be paid !!

if you want to see "terrible government".

Can you believe the post from antifreeze about the chosen people. Just as the leaders of Israel need to choose between peace and land, the people of Israel need to make a choice between the Jewish republic of Israel and a secular democratic Israel. Oh the crimes committed in the name of religion !

What a stupid and arrogant woman. No wonder our education system was set back decades when she was minister of education.Sport and culture also seems to be beyond her capabilities.

"Ms. Livnat is delusional, It is we Israelis who are in the hands of a terrible government, the one of which she is a representative!" - arieh zimmerman I hear you. Felt the same way here for 8 years.

They have been doing the same thing for the last 60 plus years, it's just like a kind of sport to both parties.I can't see anything meaningful happening on the peace front.

Ms. Livnat is delusional, It is we Israelis who are in the hands of a terrible government, the one of which she is a representative!

The ultimate paranoid delusion is fulfilled. The entire world is out to get Israel! Netanyahu is right, and only Netanyahu can save Israel by starting a war with the world. Yeah, sure. If your nuts you would believe what Likud wants you to believe. Germany believed what the Nazis wanted it to believe. . . Likud will do for Israel what the Nazis did for Germany. Assure a 1,000 year reich.

for Israel's woes. Israel is her own worst enemy... too spoiled by previous Zionist American governments. You shouldn't worry too much though, Chaim. Sly Uncle Sam (afflicted with a blind eye when it comes to Israel's double standards and apartheid habits) will still hand over the annual donation of money and weapons ear marked for Israel.

One thing is what we think, another what we say. (Yes it is a lousy U.S. Administration).

Livnat speaks the truth. She is saying what cannot be said by Netanyahu as he has to show an appearance of politeness toward an American President who has great power in his hands. American citizens will eventually see, hopefully soon, that Obama is an ineffective President who is not only bad for Israel but also bad for America and the free world.

I'm sure this ungrateful Cruella Deville lookalike is more than happy to accept the big pot of gold that the "terrible U.S. government" hands over to Israel each year.

In return for a freeze in building, Netanyahu should have gotten a pardon for Pollard. Why trade 100s of terrorists for one soldier and forget about the one prisoner held in the U.S.?

I'm insulted by this type of talk..the USA gifted $3 biiliuon to Israel for military aid..$1.5 billion for gauranteed loan...and our President said that there's an "unbreakable bond" between the USA Israel. I believe that's good stuff from USA to Israel.

I honestly feel this whole episode of peace is crap. No one is really interested in peace but the USA (so Obama can improve image & ratings).. Bibi and his hawks want to devour every inch of land won (why not) and the meek and divided Palestinians want to puff their chests out and get the most out of this pro Palestinian wave(Mideast peace is Obama priority)........What I feel will happen is when and if Marwan.B is released he will ascend the throne of Fatah aligning it with more hardline views of Hamas (may integrate) and the start of another bloody intifada.........BACK TO SQUARE ONE as America can't choose one (favours Israel but has to back the Arab cause too).......... I RATHER WATCH CIRQUE DU SOLEIL!!!!

The best way for Israel to be "out of the hands of the terrible U.S. government" would for the U.S. governemnt (and their taxpayers, I must add) to IMMEDIATELY put a stop to the 2 million dollars per day that the U.S. is giving Israel. This way we could ONLY take care of OUR OWN. This sounds like an ungrateful child speaking to me, one who lives at home and is in the hands of their parents, living under their rules, etc.

God chose Israel to make a people for His Name. Not America. Jews in Israel would do well to freeze the US relation for 10 months and see where that leads. Hopefully closer to God.

Barak Hussein Obama,hates his own country just as much as he hates Israel,therefore we are all in the same sinking boat

Please come to North America and go on Fox or CNN it would be quite humorous to see the sheep hearing the truth from such a democrat as Limor Livnat! Confusing the sheep with hard truths could backfire! SHHHHHH Limor they can't handle the "truth". All though I'm sure some would greet it as a breath of fresh air..WE WANT IT ALL! So much for women in politics changing the world, racism knows no gender! .......PEACE EVER?

" ... the entire world will call Israel liars." (L. Livnat, as quoted by Yanir Yagna) Not Israel, dummy, but your Prime Minister. In 1994, it was Yitzhak Rabin (may his memory be blessed) who won the Nobel Peace Prize, not Israel. Some people are just too dumb to grasp the difference.

for Israel to reject the monies ($10 billion per annum) the American taxpayer gives Israel every year. But I doubt the Obama administration is that bad

Obama capitulated to Netanyahu yet that is not good enough for the Likud. "Livnat also said that in a week's time, when a tractor starts the construction of houses that have already been approved before the current agreement, the entire world will call Israel liars." - Haaretz This is true. "Culture and Sports Minister"? Talk about inventing a position to place a party hack. . . Why not a Minister of Trash Talk? Because it is true.

First a civil war in Likud; then a Civil War in Israel? Peace is too scary and successful agggression and land grabbing is easy/ Ergo:

Between Livnat and Netanyahu, Livnat is far more perceptive and correct in her assessment of the Obama administration and the situation than netanyahu.

and free itself from the clutches of the U.S. But of course that should mean giving up the $ 3 billion annual military aid it gets from the U.S.

When Israel starts to recover its self-respect it will no longer be "in the US's hands." Is Israel a sovereign nation or not? Once upon a time Israel did what it needed to do irrespective of what the world thought, and it was the better for it. Now Israeli governments are afraid of their own shadows.

Look, Obama is not the most discerning master of realpolitik but at the end of the day there isn't all that much onerous in the West Bank minus E. Jerusalem sort-of freeze. Meanwhile a lot of folks besides Israel are at least paying attention to the Iranian bomb and the United States is semi-officially using Israel as it's "bad cop". (Good cop: "Man, we'd like to stop things from getting out of control here, but you gotta help me on this. My partner here--well, he's a bit of a hot head and he's convinced your Persian Mr. Big is after his family--and when it comes to family he's lock and load and there isn't much any of us can do for you about it. ...")_

As long as american governments unquestionably support israel over many years israel is happy. When an american government continues to support israel but questions israeli policy then said american government is so foul.Put up or shut up. Do without the yankee dollar you say you do not need.

What chutzpah! Like the 30 year old still living off his father, who curses and insults his father when he suggests the son might consider getting a job!

Well, I can understand how some right wing Israelis feel because they feel attached to Jerusalem and their form of nationalism. This nationalism is leading them to be blind towards the suffering of the other- Palestinians. This is not acceptable, because there was too much focus in old Europe on Jews not being European and horrible things were done. Palestinians and Jews can share Jerusalem. Why not? Everyone wants the same thing. Jewish rabbis can have the authority and jurisdiction over the Wall. Palestinians won't say no. Even some of the Jewish neighborhoods in Jerusalem can be taken, but Pals want the Arab neighborhoods, the church, and the mosque. Is it necessary to kill in a holy city and not to find peace. Conservative Palestinians can appreciate Orthodox Jews if they agree to live as neighbors and citizens and vote. They have much in common. Stop thinking just in terms of nationality and think in terms of neighbors. Jews would be welcome to live there.

...Israel has to hold on. And then hopefully Obama will go home.