Lebanese hospital: Number of casualties from Qana air strike is 28, not 52
IDF report: Hezbollah used civilians as human shields in Qana; strike would have been called off if we knew civilians were in building.
By Haaretz Service and The Associated PressA Tyre hospital on Thursday revised the number of casualties resulting from Israel's air strike on the south Lebanese village of Qana from 52 down to 28.
On Wednesday, Human Rights Watch questioned the death toll in the Qana attack. The international group listed the names of 28 known dead from the attack and said that 13 others were missing and might still be buried under the rubble. The discrepancy was attributed to an assumption that only nine of the people who took shelter in the basement of the building survived, but it emerged that at least 22 escaped, the group said.
An Israel Defense Forces' inquiry on the bombing of a building in Qana that killed the 28 civilians admits a mistake but charges that Hezbollah guerrillas used civilians as shields for their rocket attacks, according to a statement released early Thursday.
Israel Air Force planes attacked an apartment house in Qana in the early hours of Sunday. The house collapsed, and rescue workers pulled the bodies of civilians, most of them women and children, out of the rubble. An international outcry led Israel to call a halt to its airstrikes in Lebanon for 48 hours and increased pressure on Israel to agree to a cease-fire in its three-week offensive against Hezbollah.
In a statement summarizing the inquiry report, the Israeli military said Israel did not know there were civilians in the building. "Had the information indicated that civilians were present ... the attack would not have been carried out," the statement said.
The bombing followed guidelines regarding attacking "suspicious structures" in villages where civilians have been warned to evacuate, the statement said, adding that Hezbollah forces "use civilian structures inside villages to store weaponry and hide in after launching rocket attacks." The statement said more than 150 rockets have been launched from Qana and the area around it since July 12, when the current conflict erupted.
As a result of the incident, the statement said, the guidelines would be evaluated and updated.
IDF Chief of Staff Lt.-Gen. Dan Halutz apologized for the loss of civilian life but charged that Hezbollah "uses civilians as human shields and intentionally operates from within civilian villages and infrastructure."
Human Rights Watch called for an impartial international investigation of the incident.
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Buildings destroyed by IAF missile strikes are seen through the window of a mosque in Qana on Monday. (AP) |
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Hizbollah does not have the kind of armaments and tanks that Isreal has. They fight back wherever they can and that is why more civilians are getting killed. They are grassroot fighters with alot more pluck than an Isreali pushing a button on an F16. By the way a "terrorist" is someone with no airforce!
I'll bet you still believe there was a massacre in Jenin too, don't you? Tell me, as a Christian living in Lebanon, how do you feel about the following? It has been confirmed and proven with photographs that hezbolla have been hiding among civilian homes in the Christian area of Wadi Chahrour in the east of Beirut. (http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,,19955774-5007220,00.html). Christian villagers fleeing `Ain Ebel also stated in an interview with the New York Times: ?Hezbollah came to our village to shoot its rockets. They are shooting from between our houses.? Now why would a radical Islamic military force do such a thing, knowing that the IDF/IAF would return fire and might hit the homes they?re hiding between? Do you think there's any possibility that hezbolla could want the Christians in Lebanon gone or killed, just as they?ve chased away or killed the Jews of Lebanon? Or do you still think they?re protecting you?
I've wondered that myself after viewing countless repetitive news clips. Within an hour after a person dies, the joints of the body stiffen and become locked in place. This usually lasts anywhere from 72 hours to 96 hours (4 days). Even though most of these news clips tell us that it?s taking rescue and recovery several hours to get these bodies removed, not one body shown on the news has exhibited any signs of rigor. This would mean that all these bodies they've been taking out of these buildings were killed with an hour or several days beforehand. And that would mean that they were planted in the buildings for the television viewing audience.
Maybe the associated press and the haaretz services should hire another arabic translator, because as long as i know the concerned hospital stated that they received 28 of the total killed from the qana massacre and not that the total death toll is 28!!!
Natalie ! It is nice that you are quoting, but can you quote some Better sources. NY Sun for God's sake. . . ! Common Natalie !
Why didn't ANY of the bodies pictured have a single sign of rigor mortis? Rigor mortis is what happens when your muscles contract after you die... you become stiff. Onset of rigor mortis is usually within minutes (starting with facial muscles) and lasts for between 24 and 72 hours... NONE of the pictures shows any sign of rigor motris and ALL of them SHOULD have IF the victims were still ALIVE at the time that the building was bombed. Equally there would have been SOME sign of it if they were ALIVE at the time that the building collapsed.
You claim that if more civilians die when the IDF attacks Hezbollah than vice-versa, Israel is insane and foolish. By your reasoning, are you people in LA arrogant and elitist because more people die in similar magnitude earthquakes in Mexico, China, Russia, Iran etc...? Think about it. Don't just as many deserve to die in LA as Mexico City? Or perhaps there are other circumstances that need to be considered besides your naive assertion that because more civilians are (supposedly) dying in Lebanon than Israel the is responsible.
But we are not firing missiles from Haifa apartment buildings? You make a really good observation about the haaretz inconsistincy - you should email them and see what they have to say for themselves. I'd be interested to find out what the real story is with that. I am pretty confident that israel doesn't intentionally go around "massacring" civilians for fun. Even if there wasnt an ethical issue - pragmatically it would be a waste of military and diplomatic capital. Best wishes.
You have a strange sympathy, and even empathy, for a bloodthirsty terrorist organization. You have an obvious dislike and distrust of Isreal and `THE WEST'. So I feel compelled to ask why you want to live here? Why don't you live in Lebanon, for example?
The problem with Arab/Pal/Muslim supporters is they tend to believe everything they read on radical Muslim websites, which claim that the IDF were on the Lebanese side of the line when the attack took place. Of course, according to them ALL of Israel belongs to Lebanon, Syria or the Arabs who have been claiming only since 1967 that they're Palestinians.
And you got all your information from which source? If you're going to claim you have the truth, then you better be prepared to back it up with some evidence. If you have no evidence of what you're claiming then what you?re claiming is nothing more than propaganda and ... lies. Now, I challenge you to take a look at some actual evidence, providing you can handle the real TRUTH. http://sayanythingblog.com/2006/07/30/obsession/
It's very easy to sit back in your comfortable chair in front of your computer or television viewing all the articles, messages, propaganda and outright lies since this most recent war broke out. But only those who have made a serious quest for factual information over a long period of time can possibly know the truth about what is going on, why it all began and what the rest of the world can look forward to when this all finally plays out. I have been researching the problems in the Middle East and elsewhere around the world for nearly a decade and the following sites provide evidence (not propaganda) and information that intelligent people the world over need to consider before deciding which side of this war they?re going to stand on. This is a long video documentary, but it is a MUST SEE. http://sayanythingblog.com/2006/07/30/obsession Northeast Intelligence Network http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/site/modules/news/
Who cares what Europe thinks? They have abdicated all responsibility in the name of wisdom. What a joke. Europe tries to have it both ways with the terrorists and will come running to America to save them when terror comes to them again, as it will. It's nice to know you have a protector while you appease the criminals and can make money doing business with them on the side. Thank god Israel doesnt care what Europe and the UN think, I'm afraid the US is on the trail to becoming like Europe.
Even Hezbollah admits that the soldiers were in Israel.
You want real? I don't think you can handle it but here it is. http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,,19955774-5007220,00.html
Hash(e)m; you have got your cairo moved to Israel ! and started the business there!! Hezbollah doe not hide behind the Lebanese women and children, but Hezbollah lives inside them.
Do you know what I find absolutely amazing? All we hear and see in the media is that Lebanon is destroyed. The roads are gone and there?s NO transportation so people can?t get out. The power stations are destroyed and Lebanon?s infrastructure is history. According to some media reports there are maybe 3 buildings left standing in many communities and the Lebanese are crawling into every rabbit hole they can find to hide from bombs. And of course even though the Lebanese invited hezbollo to throw this party in their front yards, that?s all ISRAEL?S FAULT!! So I?m guessing all those news crews with their big trucks must be levitating over all the bombed out roads right behind Hezbollah who also doesn?t seem to have any trouble getting where they want to go. And hundreds if not thousands of Lebanese posting on a multitude of sites on the internet. Now how strange is that for people whose power plants are destroyed?
Nice of you to back up your assertions with all those facts. You make a very convincing argument. Especially about those "Human Shields" Israel always uses when suicide bombers attack.
Both sides are using and abusing their own people as human shields. A few weeks ago, the IDF attacked a hospital in Nablus claiming (erroneously it turns out) that a patient was a Fatah militant. They used the same old human shield argument. There was use of small incendiaries inside the hospital (flashbangs, etc.). Yesterday, the IDF attacked a hospital building in Baalbek. It is still unclear if there were patients present at the time of the attack. But many here argued that it was a legitimate target even if there were patients there because militants were there. Today, as reported in the first Talkback article, the IDF is using a civilian hospital to treat IDF wounded in Haifa. By IDF reasoning all of Haifa is a legitimate target and specifically that hospital.
Would it make you feel better if more of the couple of thousand rockets that Hezbollah has fired indiscriminantly at Israeli cities had been "successful" in their objective? If more Israelis died in these attacks, would you sleep better at night? Is attempted murder not a crime because it is made against Israeli civilians? You should "wake up" and realize the situation. If there were innocent Jews in the basement of a building Hezbollah had access to (even in a time of peace) what would be the result? Let's ask those evil agressors in Argentina that Hezbollah attacked. According to Hezbollah officials: "It is an open war until the elimination of Israel and until the death of the last Jew on earth." - 1992 article in the New York Sun By the way, be careful with your Nazi references. It is easy to start thinking like them.
Since I'm not a Hezbollah member or supporter, I can only guess at some answers. I'll try. "I wonder how come there were no young adult males in that building." - C They were probably off fighting the IDF. Interviews I'veseen were that the majority were already refugees from outlying villages. "I also wonder how come katyushas were being fired from just next to the building." - C I can't answer this. However according to the IDF, there had been none on the day of the bombing. "I also wonder how come the number of dead had been reported to be fifty six and now it is twenty eight." - C Again I don't have a definitive answer and never claimed one. Maybe its like the Twin Towers where the initial reports said 5000+ dead. "And Mark, if you are sick of the mantra of human shields, maybe you should voice your objections to Hizbollah." - C I don't post comments on Hizbollah sympathetic websites. But I'm happy to denounce them too, here and now.
Hollingsworth's comments seem to indicate concern that the AP wrongly implicates Hezbollah in the Qana death's by sloppy reporting. The IDF has already stated its role in bombing the location, because rockets were being fired from there. It therefore admits its part in the unfortunate civilian deaths, though the timing of the collapse and the number of deaths remain in question. But Hezbollah purposely put those lives in danger by firing from that location. So, unlike hollingsworth's assertion, it is not correct to say that "Hezbollah was not at all instrumental in the deaths."
Hezbollah has made it clear time and again that it would retaliate by capturing and detaining Israeli soldiers if they entered Lebanon, and use them in an exchange of prisoners. Israel has in a deliberate manner sent a commando into Lebanon (Aïta Al Shaab) They came under attack from Hezbollah, who captured two of their soldiers.
And I suppose the statement by the IDF (relating to the Qana massacre) that it would not have attacked the building if it had known that civilians were in it is supposed to explain the hundreds of civilian deaths as a result of IDF bombardment of crowded neighbourhoods of Beirut. Let's get real.
Sir, you have not only made my day but have given me and countless others around the world hope that there are many others although prevented to explain their feelings openly, if they could would support Israel in their fight for survival now. Think of the benefits that Israel could give the World in general if it were at peace. The trouble is that many in the Muslim World use Israel as a whipping boy to "hide" their shortcomings to their people. Let us hope that Israel can be victorious and better still more from your world can say something to the others if they would only listen and understand what we are saying to them.
Does anyone realize that the kidnapped Israeli soldiers where IN LEBANON when they were captured? Israel, and most likely, Mossad, baited the trap, and waited to spring. Try reading the news from some other countries besides the US and Israel. The Mossad has taken out; or has tricked the US to take out; Lybia, Afghan, Iraq, and now Lebanon. Next up, Syria and Iran. Research just a little bit people.
Mark, I wonder how come there were no young adult males in that building. I also wonder how come katyushas were being fired from just next to the building. I also wonder how come the number of dead had been reported to be fifty six and now it is twenty eight. And Mark, if you are sick of the mantra of human shields, maybe you should voice your objections to Hizbollah. They are the ones firing from within ppopulation centers, including next to mosques, and they are the ones targeting Israeli civilians, not the other way around.
dear margie, i think ur blind or done care to look carefully to waht teh IDF is doin. Basically, what ur noble army did, was distroy all bridges, all over lebanon, so no way in hell can a car transport civilians from 1 place to another.old people,children and women cannot WALK all the way from the south to the place where they can be evacuated.ur noble army didn't know that there were civilians in there?did they tell u that that buidling was a smale home for the mentally challenged (where ur politicians should be?)did they tell u taht over 50 rockets hit that building, or they seemed to leave that detail out?turn off ur cnn, and look out to the real world.
Israeli military operations aimed at destroying hezbollah are targeting the wrong sites. There's not much to be gained from killing hezbollah fighters who say "as you love life, we love death." Their loss is no gain for Israel. Israel would enjoy far greater success by killing those muslims who fear death and desperately want to stay alive. Those muslims live luxuriously in Damascus and Tehran. If Israel hopes to mimimize muslim deaths while destroying terrorism and incapacitatiting terrorists, it would rapidly achieve this goal by wiping out the leaders of Syria. And perhaps Iran. Killing the relative handful of people who channel money and arms to the death-loving fighters in Lebanon and Gaza would destroy the terrorist apparatus. Moreover, killing the handful of leaders who control the education of muslims would stop the inculcation of hate that forms much of their early schooling. At this point, Syrians are powerless to stop the toppling of the Assad regime.
The number of civilians killed is unfortunate,but Israel does not intentionally target them. On the other hand,Hezbollal is INTENTIONALLY targeting Israel cities and civilians.You wake up!
Shame on you all israelis that have the eyes closed and the brains washed down and can't see the whole truth like it is. WE WERE ATTACKED BY A (LEBANESE) TERRORIST GROUP AND WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DEFEND OURSELVES. The women and the children would have to be gone away/evacuated from the battle field, not to wait there.
First, the typical Muslim lies have been exposed yet again regarding the civilian casualties (which Hezbollah alone is responsible for). At the same time, the terrorist scum are getting DEMOLISHED in Lebanon! It's a great day! IDF, keep pounding away at the terrorist vermin - the entire world is behind you!!!
Regardless what the media states. People died, and they were all civilians numbers do not matter at this point in time. Innocent lives were taken. I love how many will spin the story to make better. but in reality, it is not.
Did they leave during the seven hour delay before Hezbollah took the building down?
What? They decided not to count the bodies of the terrorist that were hiding there!
Israei military bases and installations are as far away as poosible from Israel population areas (as far as possible - tiny country, you know). There are no tanks shooting from within populations, no launchers on cilvilian buildings, no ammunitionstored in mosques, churches, synagogues, hospitals and private homes. There are no military personal sitting in civilian homes or in shelters. So how are the population in Israel being used as human shields? "On the other hand Hezbollah soldiers are not so stupid that they would hide in a nearby building after sending rockets, when they perfectly well know that Israel will bomb those buildings. " - here you are right - they should from civilian buildings, then scuttle away and allow the civilian residents to bear the brunt of Israeli retaliation. Not stupid, simply evil and cowardly.
please note that all of the damage you've seen has beem caused by the idf. and if the red cross symbol looks like a target, it probally was, just not ours.
http://www.nrg.co.il/online/1/ART1/457/743.html
By the grace of God, it is fortunate many more were not killed. The interview may not have appeared in Israel, but the people in the US and around the world got to see it. CNN got a reporter into Qana the day after the strike. Part of his report was made from the bottom of a 30 to 40 foot crater from a bomb that had not gone off. The crater was between a small house and an apartment building. He than conducted an interview with the current owner of the bomb, from his destroyrf bedroom where the bomb lay on the guy's bed. It had bounced through the wall of his house. It was a 3000 lb. bomb with a missing fusing package. The man interviewed had been in his basement during the attack. The apartment building on the other side of the crater was and had been occupied at the time of the attack.
Though not entirely reliable, you might want to occationally look at CNN, MSNBC and FOX News. They have all shown pictures of Red Cross ambulances, burned out cars and trucks. One compelling thing about the ambulances are the missile holes located so close to the cross on the top as if that is the actual target point.
its not a war that lebanese are fighting or decided to fight. maybe we will make hizballah lose! we dont mind. lebanon has lost long time ago, ,maybe this time he will rise through hizballahs defeat. i do regret the death of each civilians who died since the creation of both state of israel and Lebanon. its time for peace Safo, if you know what that means
The IDF is doing what is necessary to protect Israel. I applaud their efforts and look forward to seeing Israel's northern border secured. The civilians have only themselves and Hezbollah to blame. If Hezbollah wasn't willfully shielding themselves and their arms with civilians much of the collateral damage would have been reduced. Good Luck to you Israel in your fight against terrorism.
Israel may not have known that they were there, but Hizbollah definitely did know that they were there. Nevertheless they places a rocket launcher on the roof of that building (knowing that they were there ad that it would attract Israeli fire) in order to lob rockets into Israel.
To all hezbolah defenders: Suppose (although it is a lie) that we agree that those "heartless" Israelis do not value Lebaneese lifes. But these "heartless" Israeli declared many times that they would stop the war if they will get their sodgers, and if hezbolah stops shooting at Israel. My question is: -If hezbolah, unlike Israeli, is so concerned about Lebaneese lifes, why don't they do just that?!!! Israeli are foriners, hezbolah is "your own", why do not they care about their own citizens'(women, children) lifes? Those of you, excluding hezbolah, who are suffering in Lebanon, why do not you ask yourself the above questions?
Here's a question, intended to be taken seriously: how do you identify a Hizballah militant? I'd really, really be interested in this answer. This is what my question means: a) The IDF identifies a building to target because it may store weapons. b) It sustains some small arms fire maybe from the building too. c) The building's now a valid target. d) The IDF bombs the building, and finds out after that many weapons are indeed there (some rockets, lots of small munitions, etc.), and now destroyed, but seven casualties are registered. e) These casualties, three men and four women, are all dead, and are wearing conventional clothes and not carrying weapons. However, lying next to two of the men is a machine pistol, and near to the woman is a sub-machine gun. Question: How many militants? Bear in mind that this is a proven weapons cache. Thankyou for reading.
"Number of casualties from Qana air strike is 28, not 52" I'll accept the excuse of IDF it's a mistake and they are sorry!!! what about marwahine massacre 3 days before Qana massacres when 12 persones killed in a car trying to leave south Lebanon to Beirut, what about lebanese infrustructure, bridges and roads all these are for hezballah or for lebanese people, let's say hezballah made a mistake and kidnappe 2 solder, isarel have been punnishing the lebanese population, so IDF is acting like Hitler. I usually critisize and blame hezballah for there act but now It's clear that israel is a real enemy not for hizballah but for the lebanese population.
Why don't you print the truth? Why are you so wishy-washy? Read this: http://www.arutzsheva.com/news.php3?id=109072
You know what i'm sorry.. I'm sorry that i have been hating israel for so long. Israel is just another country that has economical and geogra greeds in Lebanon.. But now i realized after reading the talk backs of my fellows lebanese, i say that i stoped hating israelis. I'm now hating lebanese that are either narrow minded not to understand the real thing going on, or so fanatic to prefer israelis over Lebanese. You are the ones that will make Lebanon loose the war I salute you
and again and again. Each time they cry how heartless the Jews are. Human Rights Watch have seen through them. Can't you?
Why didn't it give the women and children transport to get them out of danger? You got the men out!
Thank you for an honest view of the situation. We are so often subject to views that are based on fanaticism.
Why does nobody mention that Hizbollah is aiming to kill at least 100 Israeli civilians every day?? We are just lucky that they have not managed to do this (thank G-d). They are losers and going nowhere fast.
I am an American, but I am certain the Israelis appreciate your kind sentiments and your fortitude. God bless you!!
So only 28 died (13 missing, thus in facts 41 died) so newspapers can write only 28 & it was a mistake & the IDF did'nt know, so Israel is clean and safe... Israel is loosing the psycho war too, cause too much is too much - The world understands. But Israels leader are to stupid to understand & the population follows the leaders. Sad story.
This is a war that these fanatics are good at. The only war that they are good at is crying and whining and weeping. So they make up reasons and then force circumstances. Shame on the Hezbullah for their disgusting actions.
Human Rights Watch said. 1. Hezbollah exaggerated the numbers 2. They don't believe Israel targeted the building and the refugees 3. The time gap is suspicious.
we wont let them kill our will to flourish. we shall be in peace with israel, our neighbour soon, if they accept to. Apologies for death of soldiers who are fighting our war. a lot of lebanese love israelis and would love to visit Israel.
The Kana event is not an air strike but a massacre, yes a MASSACRE. The article's picture shows a destroyed home, but why are you shutting the curtains down on the horrors underneath that home, a home that sheltered innocent women, kids, elderly people (I saw the real pictures). Now, you have the guts to say that the number of casualties from Cana air strike is 28 not 52!!!!! what a shame. check this website, this one includes real pictures. http://www.fromisraeltolebanon.org/
so what is the difference btw 28 and 52...if it is true still there are 28 dead! its not the number that counts! we are talking abt innocent lives here!
I hope the international force is established quickly and that Lebanon can rebuild anew quickly and flourish immensely.
we unfortunatly had to destroy roads, bridges gas stations and such to bring militants out of hiding. again if you have a reliable news source about attacking aid convoys, let ne know. i have seen none. if we had agreed to the truce, israel would have been attacked and ridiculed for taking action against that too. how many israeli's (jewish, arab, christian) have to die before we are allowed to say enough?
is there a legitimate news source that says israel attacked convoys? because i havn't seen one. you say 1 million people managed to leave. wow, thanks to israels forwarning that many people were able to come to their senses and retreat. says alot about how we wage war. the people who stayed (women and unfortunalty using their children) were militants. militants willing to give their lives to a cause that is based on hatred. when a suicide bomber is sent to kill and maime, do they warn anyone? no, they find the most populated area, fill the bomb with nails and other sharp objects and wreak as much damage as possible. look at 911, are they justified in striking america, just because they don't want freedom to bleed into their society and change it?
You know the "boy that cried wolf"? Its kind of the same with the IDF and the Human Shield issue. The people might have believed it the first time around, but slapping this "Human Shield" bullcrap everytime a civilian massacre is carried out is getting the IDF nowhere anymore. Alot of Israelis with some peace in their soul to look upon the IDF with disgust. Im Lebanese, and my Israeli friends are ashamed to be part of an organization that kills innocent people on such a large scale. I dont deny at all that Hizballah are people whos principles I hate, but when u have a monster attacking you with all its might, how can u not support them? I am a Christian by the way...the IDF's plan backfired (aka Getting the Christians to hate HIzballah and revolt against them)...Lebanese Christians and Muslims are more unified than ever thanx to a indiscriminate killing force known as the IDF.
3000 in the water maybe. and tx gina and JON F. for NATO and ISrael soldiers, sorry for dragging you in here and thank you for finishing on Hizballah.
Forgiving Hizbollah is God's function. The Israeli's job is to arrange the meeting...
"The UN pleaded for a 72 hour truce to help these people." The Lebanese allowed terrorists to plan and organize and war against Israel for several years. They do not then have the privilege to decide when to call "time out". Countries that allow terrorists in their midst need to consider all ramifications.
"18 civilians, out of around 3000 missiles... that`s about 150 missiles to kill one civilian..." Israel loves her children enough to build bomb shelters for them. I wish Hezbollah loved Lebanese children.
Yes , 150 missiles to 1. Just like realesing 1000 jailed Lebanese terrorists for 1 Jew. Makes perfect sence to me.
Those that could leave did = nearly a million poeple. Many refugee convoys that left got attacked by Israel, after being ordered to leave. After Israel blew up the roads, bridges, petrol stations, those who tried to leave, those that stayed, aid convoys that tried to get there, milk factorys (x2), grain silos, power stations, ambulances, etc etc, many people didnm't know what to do, and even if they wanted to leave they didn't have the money, or vehicles, or fuel, to get out. The UN pleaded for a 72 hour truce to help these people. Israel said NO. Instead they would all (including women and children) be considered as terrorists and their villages would be wiped out. After this official comment by the Justice Minister, it is laughable that Israel says it doesn't deliberately attack civilians.
18 civilians, out of around 3000 missiles... that's about 150 missiles to kill one civilian... while the story about superman having descendency is out in the cinemas.. sounds fishy.. some might say this is ridiculeous, but if them cvilians are targeted, give me a better explanation!! hey israelis, is true you can see through steel?! how long can you hol your breath under water?! oh my god this is so exciting, we live next door to superman's ville!!!
Hezbollah not a victim. All blame goes to them and their supporters.
Like a rapist blaming the rape on the tight jeans the woman wore, Israel's policy of blaming the victim is so full of holes, and ass can see through the PR spin with ease.
Fourth, regarding the UN, emails have been sent from their base saying that ?they were all over us?. I am sorry! We have lost a lot along these years, Christians were being massacred by Syrians, now shiits by hizballah. Who took Syria to Crime Tribunal, who will take hizballah? If hizballah is Lebanese, let them fight give us back our prisoners in Syria?s prison. Otherwise let them go out of this country and fight for their beliefs from Syria and Iran, cause in such regimes they know how to live. They can?t understand and enjoy civilization.
Third, this is a war, and no need to redefine what war means, it means killing; and as a reminder, who opened fire? Who kidnapped soldiers? They searched for it, I am sorry. Civilians are dying and more will dye, but much more could have died. Look into other countries war record of death, you will see, civilians die, unfortunately. And they die more when it comes to using houses as storage room for arms. On a Lebanese TV, a man was interviewed at a hospital whose daughter died in Cana and he survived, I quote ? as we were hiding in the ?moustawdah?, and for the one who do not know what that means, it is a store, and this word is more used for store of weapons.
Second, in a 21st century, a country has the right to be sovereign and take action for itself. Hizaballah has only weakened Lebanon and that it because they execute Syria's orders who never wanted us to be strong and weakened our government which lead us to the point we are today. And if Hizballah claims he kicked out Israel in 2000 just to say that they did something besides having babies, we know that Israel just pulled out by itself.
It is so funny that the hizballah supporters are missing the big picture here. First allow me to say as lebanese living in Beirut that they dont have the nation consensus or approval of their presence /existence and therefore their acts, and specifically "fighting for Lebanon". Major Lebanese don?t support them, and when I say this I mean Christians, sunnit, druze and all other religion in this country, even some shiits who had to flee from them and now live in Germany and elsewhere. So please don?t bullshit about being a Lebanese Resistance, cause beside the fact they don?t have the support of the Lebanese they are called "The Islamic resistance" AL moukawamet al islamiyyah.
"I am willing to believe this has been the truth if confirmed by independent inquiry, not by IDF" Turn on the tv. The footage has been all over the media for days. Tonight I got to see a rocket launcher sitting alongside a mosque. If Muslims do not care about their mosques to critcise Hezbollah, am I supposed to care if it gets blown to bits?
FROM JERUSALEM POST: "On Wednesday, Human Rights Watch said that they could confirm only 28 of the originally reported 57 civilians who died in the building. Of the 28 that they confirmed, 16 were children." http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1154525796295&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
Your claims might have held some water, had it not been for the Islamic worlds staggering history of complete disreagrd of human life. If Muslim factions are capable of cutting the throats of women and children in Algeria or Sudan, then they certainly are capable of as much. Muslims love being spoon fed what they like. Is it possible for you to conclude that Hezbollah are indeed a terrorist organisation and DO use their own people as shields for the propoganda value, if you had proof positive? Or would you choose not to believe the truth? Consider it a hypothetical scenario if you wish. One small anecdote in conclusion: I once saw a cafe in Cairo when several men were franticaly switching the TV channels. I asked them what had happened. One replied " They are reporting that they have toppled the statue of Saddam. Even Al-Arabiya is saying it. It is impossible. We are looking for the truth!" Click, click, click.......! I left the cafe before I burst out in laughter! Truth indeed.
Finland is not suitable for any NATO lead troops in southern Lebanon. The Finnish FM is not good for any mission regarding Israel. It's not possible for him to be objective at all. It's a shame for Finland.
What does a Hezbollah uniform look like?
Shame on you!!!you feed your people with lies ,you think the rest of the world are idiots to believe these ridiculous excuses. Both jews and muslims need a peaceful world to live.
As you said, only 1/2 the residents are present in the city. the other 1/2 are staying with relatives or generous strangers in safer areas. israel would evecuate the moment they thought the residents were in danger. can you say that about lebenon and hezbollah?
do you also decry america defending itself after 911? do the civilians over there, who put themselves into harms way also deserve your pity? after all the US invaded their land in defense of a tragic massacre.
..."IDF report: Hezbollah used civilians as shields in Qana..." Yeah, right. It was just like a Mafia Godfather conducted his own investigation to the dead a policeman caused by his mafia member and reported that investigation to the public: My man was innocent, his death was caused by hearts attack. AND PUBLIC SHOULD ACCEPT THAT AS THE TRUTH. OR YOU WILL HAVE A "HEART ATTACK" TOO.
you must be confused, israel cannot be classed with sudan or serbia, we are not a crazy militant group trying to take control over a country. we are just trying to defend the people inside our borders from a group of devoted jihadists trying to destroy israe. and by the way, israel has never been their homeland, mecca is their holy city. why do they need our very very small country?
Hezbullah have repeatedly stated they will attack Haifa. Yet Israel has left the city half full of residents. Does this mean they are using human shields? Or that it is therefore quite justifiable to blow up these innocent civilians because they have been warned?
As usual the IDF and Israeli goverment have found the a good excuse
Bonnie wrote "..if we were any other nation, we would be supported..." Wrong. It may be news to you, but the world is not big on supporting countries that carry out massacres against civilians... be it Serbia, Sudan, USA, Algeria etc. And generally, the more civilised a country claims to be, the less tollerance there is for barbaric behaviour against innocent people.
who are you bb? what stolen land? the world wants israel to give land up to the last grain of sand. do you think that you would be welcome here after the takeover? everyone not muslim wuold be slaughtered and some other nation would have to sieze control of our small country, which by the way, we are completly entitled to.
NEVER has israel sent women and children to the front lines and NEVER has israel used people as a shield. get your facts straight and maybe a little debrainwashing.
Israel informs willages of attacks before they go in. WHY??? to minimize civilian loss. It is not our fault that hizbullah PROMISES that anyone who dies for jihad will get a free ticket to heaven. the women (unfortunatly they take their children with them) who freely stand in front of soldiers and tanks or sit in buildings to be blown up, do so of their own free will. i can't believe that so many people are upset at israel for defending the women and children that reside inside of it's borders. plenty of whom are not jewish. if we were any other nation, we would be supported. and it's not only israel these terrorists hate, modern western world america is second on their list and if we were closer to hit, they would have no compunctions about doing so. would you support them then? if the usa destroyed a building with jihadists hiding inside, would you say -how sad for them- or be relieved that fewer terrorists were around to kill you later?
Recent BBC article on Israeli use of human shield in Gaza. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5212870.stm
Do you not see the contrast? Isreal will risk all for one of it's sons, while the terrorist will force his own wives and children to 'martydom'. Mark there the subtle difference!! The anti-semites here (Natallie and that even bigger Shmuck Clickfool) must ask themselves why they celebrate the cause of Hezbollah? Jews celebrate life! L'Chaim!
Quote from Haaretz - link below "As the Israel Air Force continues to investigate the air strike, questions have been raised over military accounts of the incident. It now appears that the military had no information on rockets launched from the site of the building, or the presence of Hezbollah men at the time. The Israel Defense Forces had said after the deadly air-strike that many rockets had been launched from Qana. However, it changed its version on Monday. The site was included in an IAF plan to strike at several buildings in proximity to a previous launching site. Similar strikes were carried out in the past. However, there were no rocket launches from Qana on the day of the strike" From http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/745185.html So where did the Human Shield story come from? Was it simply made up?
It serves only to detract the IDF from its reason of exisisting,defending Israel.
I am willing to believe this has been the truth if confirmed by independent inquiry, not by IDF. Maybe their are people who still believes in the 'moral myth' of this so-called "self-defense force", but I do not and with me a growing number of people.
Good morning, Berndt! You ask when the Falkland Islands will be handed over to the Argentinians. That will happen when the people who live there tell us that they would like to join that particular nation. They sadly show no inclination to be Argentnian at the moment. Your memory of the Falklands War appears to be a little hazy. You'll recall that it was the Argentinians who triggered off this war by sending in an invasion force to take over those islands. I'm sure you were pleased by the success of the British forces who sent them, their navy, their airforce and their army, packing in record time. We did the Argentinian people a great service, dont you think, by whacking this invasion force so decisively that the ruling junta was overthrown and democracy restored.
Hizbollah does not hide behind civilians. Israel lied when it said that. Israel is not did not and will not prove it cause untrue. Hizbollah fighters have Special Uniforms. Black T shirt with Army pants and a Bag with supplies on their back. By the way most Hizbollah fighters are deep in the south fighting beside, the mountaines, sand, trees and smoke from Israelly bombing. YET Israel is hiding behind its tanks and air planes and bombing Lebanese Civilians and in my opinion that is Cowardness. This is another reason why the Hizbollah fighters are winning because of Israelly cowrdness and love to commit crimes against humanity.
Hezbollah hides behind civilians and the name of G-D.Blasphemous barberians. In Israel the names or photos of wounded or fallen soldiers are published. Each fallen soldier in Israel,is mourned by the whole country. Where in the Arab world are the names or photos of fallen fighters published,I do not think they exist,which means these boys are brain washed into martydom and used as cannon fodder. Which proves a point,Life has no value in the Arab world.
for the love of all that is true and holy. Prove one of your outlandish statemnets with some universally accepted sources. You speak like a very poetic story tale. I want nothing more than a homeland for your people so you too will feel the pride we have and will always defend. I understand at least that. Are you truly fighting the right enemy? I think you should be looking behind you not in front. I have no love for pals. More important though I have no hate either. Try to imagine what a peace between two strong people could do for all of us. What we as people can accomplish with this land. the world is at our door steps we only have to ask them in together. I would fight to the death if I had to, I would rather work just as hard not to. Could "you imagine this?
Message meant for own audience.
Clickey (may I call you Clickey...?) Old chap, you seem to have missed my previous post. Such a shame. Please have a look over at the "5 snatched" article. I've asked you to be a good littel supporter and provide the Hizb. with a dead Argentinian while you still hunt for that elusive Irishman. After all your navy was really good at killing the Argentinians at the Malinas/Falklands. And Hizb needs the bodies for staging another incident, probably at the Temple Mount this weekend (care to wager on it?) So far you've also declined to answer my question as to when GB intends to return the Malinas to Argentinia. Not only did you not care to come to Amsterdam to Blow Off some of your steam - you also chose to ignore Yonatan's demand for compensating the Irish. Please, Clickey: answer us. We'd love to hear your opinions on matters close to home. Or is it just that - trying to get attention away from Brit atrocities by screaming about those of others...?
Please don't ask these Hezbollah apologists to even recognise that fact that Israel might have suffered some damage or has some rights. They are busy performing their PR spin here and their reaction to the PR spin of others. They haven't got time to have emotions or be in any way logical. Facts don't matter: blind fanaticism does.
I hope never in your life you have to endure a call in the middle of the night, that a loved one has sucummned to this viscious terrorism. You have to looked in the eyes of thier parents and speak thoughs words. Shame on anybody that would even try to justify there exsistence in the mordern world. I hope you have a lap top so get on a plane and plz report first handed on either side then come and post. the parents I had to share this news with was the most amazing arab-israeli muslim that was going to marry her high school jewish israeli sweetheart one week later. You are not helping to solve this by being naive. Educate yourself you may actually be helpful.
They were a human shield and the building was destroyed by a Hamas mine. No, wait! That was the beach at Gaza. They were sheltering Hezbollah fighters in combat with the IDF. Oops! Sorry, that was the UNFIL post. No, it was an unfortunate targeting error. What? Darn, that was last time in Qana. Look, we didn't do it OK? Well, not on purpose. Clearly their fault - they're Lebanese for heaven's sake!
Hizbollah does not hide behind civilians. Israel lied when it said that. Israel is not did not and will not prove it cause untrue. Hizbollah fighters have Special Uniforms. Black T shirt with Army pants and a Bag with supplies on their back. By the way most Hizbollah fighters are deep in the south fighting beside, the mountaines, sand, trees and smoke from Israelly bombing. YET Israel is hiding behind its tanks and air planes and bombing Lebanese Civilians and in my opinion that is Cowardness. This is another reason why the Hizbollah fighters are winning because of Israelly cowrdness and love to commit crimes against humanity.
Everyone knows what that means....
If you read both articles, you'll see that there is no conflict in the reports. Israel was not aware of the civilians and Hezbollah is known to use civilians as shields. If the IDF does not see the civilians, it would have to assume that it is 'safe' to strike the building. The questions one should ask are: a) Why did Hezbollah only report the incident 7 hours after it had happened? b) Why where there women and children in that building when the rest of the city was almost empty of civilians? And why were there no civilian men found dead there? c) Why did Hezbollah launch several times from right outside that building? Where there rockets stored in the building, and did the exploding of these actually cause the collapse? It?s happened before - in Gaza. Hezbollah considers muslim civilians killed in this conflict as martyrs. It is possible that they didn't allow these innocents to leave, just so that they could create a situation that would bring the world condemnation on Israel and also bring support and help from other muslim nations. Seems like they?ve succeeded.
I was reading this quoate at CNN website: "The airstrikes followed a battle late Wednesday between Israeli forces and Hezbollah guerrillas near Aita Al-Shaab in southern Lebanon" Then I asked myself, as probably a lot of others all over the world did: a 50,000 strong IDF with all their technical might, lost a man to man fight against 300 Hezbollah fighters in South Lebanon so they asked the IAF to take it on defenseless civillians in South Beirout and Qana. IDF, IAF, Israel as a whole: you are a bunch of armed-to-the teath cowards.
Israel, even as recently as within the last couple of weeks, has been known to use people as human shields. This is NOT the first time...& several of these incidents (along with other violations) have been reported &/or documented...before. By both Jewish...& non-Jewish groups. Israel Even Has A Law-- Against using Palestinians/people in general...as human shields. Not that it`s being followed! ...Obviously & Unfortunately. Ask Yourself WHY-- This law is even in existence. It's because Israelis have done this--THEMSELVES! If-- It's wrong for others to use people as human shields. Then-- It's wrong for ISRAEL to do it! AND Saying-- They/Others do it more than we do...or any other childish explanation/excuse...doesn't exempt anyone....including ISRAEL. I Don't Exactly Know-- From what "moral high ground", Israel thinks it has the right to complain. Clearly-- It's SELF-Defeatingly determined & NOT acceptable--by UNIVERSAL standards!
On Wednesday, Human Rights Watch questioned the death toll in the Qana attack.
Hizbollah is a terror group which targets civilians. Israel is a democratic government which (supposedly) does not target civilians. In spite of this, Israel has killed more than 10 times the number of civilians that Hizbollah has killed. This fact is significant and should not be minimized or ignored.... Additionally, Israel should not take its example of right and wrong from a terror group. It is immoral in the extreme to say, if it's ok for Hizbollah to kill civilians, then it is ok for Israel. Israels philosophy of making the population suffer for the sins of a resistance group is very old indeed. The Nazis were very good at it. It is against international law in this day and age, and it doesn't work. Nonetheless, it is normal procedure for the IDF. If Israel goes after attackers, that is well and good. When Israel kills more civilians than attackers, as is the usual case, Israels enemies become MORE, not less. It is an outdated, insane philosophy, supported by fools
You're right, Hezbollah are not terrorists and are all about social services. The 150 rockets _targetting and killing civilians_ in Northern Israel every day are just... oh I don't know. The people we have ON TAPE launching rockets and then driving straight into civilian areas are obviously from some other social services organization.
God bless Hizbollah.
Come on the glorious idf have been using human shields in Gaza and the West Bank as recently as this week.A racist aparthied state is one that doesn't value the innocent lives of all human beings in it's care.Shame on Israel
The IDF mantra about human shields no longer rings true with me. It would have had a better ring if occationally, they got a militant or terrorist when they screw up and kill a bunch of civilians. And what the hell are "suspicious structures?" Buildings still standing?
If Israel did not know that there were civilians, why then bomb a civilian building. Because it was suspicious structure. Funny, what means that? Why was this house a suspicious structure, but not the neighbour houses? Rockets are not send from several store high appartment houses or any other building. On the other hand Hezbollah soldiers are not so stupid that they would hide in a nearby building after sending rockets, when they perfectly well know that Israel will bomb those buildings. Israel is full of militrary bases in towns and villages. So doesn't Israel also use "human shields". Also the buildings Hezbollah manages to hit could be called as "suspicious structures".
The second!
It seems that only the hezbullah/lebanese lives are worth something. The Natalie Dursons are as much an enemy as the hexbullah. There is no reason to cry for the Lebanese/Hexbullah, which of you cry for Israel? There is no reason to apologise to those who have been intentionally murdering israeli civilians for years, who has apologised to Israel? Those who support and harbour the bloodthirsty murders of terrorists hsould die. Hopefully Israel will not let Iran and ssyria hide behind state terrorism. They must pay for the Israeli blood shed.
Provide a link to the first you claim was printed. I read Haaretz & JPost daily, I watch Hebrew and & news, and I never saw anyone claim no activity in Qana. Consistent statements have said rockets were regularly fired from there. If you can provide a link, I'll admit I missed it. If not, considering the body of evidence to the contrary, the working assumption is you're another trouble maker inventing what you'd like to have been said. Considering people have claimed Olmert said all rocket launchers were destroyed, which he's never said, that's an assumption that's easy to believe.
NO one cared about the years of Lebanon/hezbullah intentionally targeting and killing Israel civilians. Where are the apologies for dead Israelis? What about the 8 soldiers murdered on Israeli soil? ? Where was Natalie Durston then? No apologies are necessary. Dont kill Israeli civilians and yours wont be killed. Dont atack Israel and you wont be attacked. Those who think more jews should be dead for proportions sake are just as bad as the terrorists. They are no less an enemy. Now it is time for those who support and harbour terrorists to die rather than hide behind state sovereignty. The Europeans would rather that the jews go peacefully to their death rather than rock the peaceful euroboat of appeasement. Hopefully Syria and Iran will be next.
am sorry dude , they western media has burnt ur fuse . hezbulla dont hide in civilian shields and nowaday , its new terms of modern politics war ! if u know why the foundation of hezbulla , u could have said something else instead of accusing them as media shown in tvs . hezballa has facilities and social services in lebanon , and if israel bombing those civilian services , it doesnt mean hezbulla hiding . hezbulla fighting on the mountains and till now israel is unable to stop rockets that defend the country from thier warplanes attacks . hezbulla was founded to defend the country from accupation and was founded in 1985 . Foxnews and other lack info media said was in 1982 . back that time hezbullas wasnot found . see how the media takes western ppl to different side of world and creat an artist image of terrorist icon . just another movie with american senario and israeli haterd for leb and joyfull for killing arab . nice drama fellas .
David posted: Haaretz has reported that the IDF has said they detected no Hizbullah movements or action in Qana the day before the tragedy. Haaretz now reports that Hizbullah used children as human shields in Qana. Which of the Haaretz articles is false? ------ I've been wondering the same thing.
PS WHile we are at it, where are your posts condemning Hizbolla and their INTENTIONAL TARGETING of civilian areas, their celebrations of Israeli civilian deaths, their arming with over 12,000 long range rockets and missiles for peaceful purposes?, their suicide bombings of US marines (240 dead in one day) French marines (80 dead) Israeli embassy in Argentina and the Buenos Aires JEWISH (NOT ISRAELI) community center (hundreds of civilians dead).Were these all done against legitimate military targets with extreme care to avoid civilian casualties and all to get Lebanon free from Israeli occupation? Oh by the way, I must have forgotten, Israel left Lebanon COMPLETELY, 6 years ago. Those poor poor Hezbolla people, so peace loving, so deserving of your sympathy. I do cry for innocent civilians ON BOTH SIDES. But Hezbolla has no such compunction- even Israeli Arab deaths ar OK- they are MARTYRS, as per Nazrallah. Let's get a little balance in your views otherwise don't bother to post.
yet , israel has failed in the attack . they have said and showed a video of suspected building which back week before the incidence , then they showed another video for another building n said it could be that one . both videos didnt confirm the right location and right building . the questing now is , why they didnt hit that builing shown in the first video back a week before Qana Massacre ? and why they waited a week to reply to the rockt laucnher ? do u think they didnt hit that building in the first place and the only video pretty much close to the qana one is those they showed on tv . comon , its just one of those fake victories that has been created in a lack info media .
They cannot be human shields if Israel knows about them, so they are hidden and put in places most likely to be hit by IDF Forces, so when they are killed, the terrorists have more propaganda that they can plead to the world with! SORRY! Most intelligent, normal, people in the world know all about Hezbollah, Hamas, and thier destroy the world philosophy. Wake up!
If Hezbollah was using the civilians in the basement at Qana as 'human shields', how many of those killed could be identified as militants?
Let's do some simple logic.If a building is used to store rockets that are used to kill or attempt to kill Israeli targets then by not attacking that building the likely result will be that Hezbollah will "succeed" in killing and maiming more Jews.On the other hand, if we do attack the building then we will likely kill and maim the enemy civilian inhabitants of the building.By the way the inhabitants and the Lebanese "government" all know that the building is being used to store weapons, and they choose to stay.The moral dilemna is straight forward. Choose between the lives of Jewish civilians and enemy civilians.The solution is very simple. When FORCED to choose between saving my life and anothers life, mine comes first.According to Jewish law the golden rule "to love your neighbor as yourself" does not mean to love him more than yourself.The Israeli leftist secular "morality" is skewed and suicidal. In fact it is amoral. They are merciful to the cruel, and cruel to the merciful.
You could not be more wrong with your lopsided logic. Here are a few photos you might find interesting. They show Hezbollah mercenaries wearing civilian clothes so they can escape more quickly and if killed can be counted as civilians. They're also setting their mobile rocket launchers and heavy-caliber weapons up in high-density residential areas. But these aren?t just any residential areas. For instance, they aren't setting up in Muslim communities. They're killing two birds with one stone by setting up in the Christian communities so they can do a little "cleansing" of the Christians while convincing the lemmings in the world that Israel is killing civilians. If they get hit, they?re dead civilians. If they don?t, they move on to another Christian neighborhood. So much for Hezbollah being there to protect the Lebanese from Israel. http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,,19955774-5007220,00.html
To Hashim, I really salute you for blaming Hezbollah for the current Middle East Conflict in Lebanon. I agree with you that the Arab world should work with Israel and America to fight against those Hezbollah tyrants that use civilians as their human shield. Throught the conflict, the Israeli Defense Force has done a very good job by destroying the Katyusha missiles in Lebanon by the means of air attacks which in the end killed Lebanese civilians. Israel should not be blamed for the deaths but these civilian deaths is caused by Hezbollah. The United Nation Security Council should not condemn Israel for the civilian deaths in Lebanon because Israel has the full rights to defend itself from missile attacks by Hezbollah terrorists. Lastly, I wish to voice my support for Israel and I wish good luck to the citizens of Israel and I salute the citizens of Israel for their bravery in their fight against terrorist attacks. Rgds, Muhammad Zailan Bin Mohd Zain
Did you not notice that this story here is titled "By The Associated Press"!!!! You know what that means, right?? What is reported here is the IDF stated that HZB used civilians as Human shields. Did you expect them to say anything different? They have been jabbering with the same lies all along. Did you expect the IDF to state that they are bombing places where they knew there were civilians? IDF had no idea there were civilians in the following: 1) Qana I with over 100 civilians dead 2) The Red Cross car from a week or 2 ago. 3) the almost 1000 civilians killed over the last 3 weeks in Lebanon for 2 missing soldiers! 4) Qana II with 10's of women and children killed while bunkered in the basement of a building! 5) Sabra and Shateela from 1982 with thousands of civilians slaughtered, where Sharon was found by an ISRAELI inquiry as INdirectly "responsible" IDF never knows there are civilians. It just so happens that it ends up killing thousands of civilians.
Wan a proof, just click www.al-jabr.net. Pictures tell everything. IDF invite children and the mother as well playing around IDF tank and munitions.
IDF report is a big big lie to be added for the other massacre reports which count moree than 50 Massacres in the last two decades. Just show us as a proof one weapon, one uniform, one Hizbullah body between the infants and innocent elderlies. Evils are the IAF targetting planners ONLY. The only path that you must select is the Peace approach, ONLY PEACE NOW IS URGENTLY NEEDED.
If Israel did not know that the civilians were there, then Hizbollah was not using them for human shields. Wake up people! A human shield is not a human shield if its existance is not known. ADDITIONALLY, Israel has not been shy of causing large numbers of civilian casualties, so why would these particular civilians made any difference. Israel ranks with the all time champions in their indifference to causing civilian casualties. This is no accident, and the Israeli people don't seem to care. These chickens have a way of coming home to roost....
it's time to play another melody,only stupid or pevers people like 99% of the israeli will believe what the army said,criminals they are,criminals they stay and soon they will pay,Amen!
...Lebanese men, women, and children! The Arab world should unite with Israel and America to dismantle and destroy this Mafia type of terrorism immediately. Using innocent civilians as human shields is unconscionable! Hezbollah, you picked this fight and now you cowards are hiding behind women and children and putting them in harms way. This is purely demonic and I hope you are totally crushed by the international community!!
Haaretz has reported that the IDF has said they detected no Hizbullah movements or action in Qana the day before the tragedy. Haaretz now reports that Hizbullah used children as human shields in Qana. Which of the Haaretz articles is false?
A conclusion that would have been impossible with the annoying presence of UN investigators.
The report states: " "Had the information indicated that civilians were present ... the attack would not have been carried out." Let's take things to the extreme. Hez-E-Bola notifies the IDF of all the civilian addresses from which it is firing rockets and notifies IDF that there are civilians in the building that they are using as human shields. IDF confirms the presence of civilians in all the buildings. According to the IDF it wouldn't attack. That is proposterous because it amounts to sacrificing Israeli civilians for Lebanese civilians. Even assuming, arguendo, both sets of civilians are innocent, Israel owes its allegiance to its own. The policy must be to seek out and destroy Hes-E-Bola whereever it is. Warning civilians and doing the best not to hit them is proper, a requirement of civilized society. Sacrificing one's own civilians is not!
The Glorious Idf use Palestinians as human shiels in Gaza and the West Bank frequently, and as recently as yesterday as reported in this newspaper.For a national army to do this is a war crime. I am always left with the feeling that many jews do not think Palestinians have evolved to the same evolutionary degree as jews. From were I sit it seems the other way around. My advice is stop the propaganda,apologise, give back the stolen land whlie you still have the upper hand. Things have a way of changing.
In the opening, one-sentence paragraph of this report we find: 1) the bombing of a building which killed "56 civilians" inside 2) the brief admission of a "mistake." 3) and a closing reference to "Hezbollah guerillas" who use civilians as human shields for their attacks. So, prima facie, the not too careful reader might come away with the impression that, although 56 civilians were killed by "mistake," Hezbollah must assume some of the blame because these civilians, or civilians in general, are used as shields by Hezbollah. Though Hezbollah was not at all instrumental in the deaths stemming from this incident, they are, nevertheless, implicated in some way by means of a kind of calculated sloppy journalism. Typical AP reporting
this is a complete lie. when IDF clearly says that in Baaleback "some residences were bombed because they housed hezbollah supporters", it clearly shows that IDF doesn't mind if 80% of the shiite population in Lebanon are killed and their houses are destroyed. that is a good 2 million civilians!!! its so funny that the IDF's excuse is "we told you to leave". you can fool some people some of the time not all people all the time. shame on you IDF. you make all Jews and Israelies look bad.