Israeli officials welcome Quartet decision to maintain PA boycott

On June 30, 2004, the Israeli High Court delivered its decision in HCJ 2056/04 Beit Sourik v. Israel, ordering the State of Israel and its military commanders to modify the route of the wall/barrier ... the High Court recognized that according to the laws of belligerent occupation, the Occupant may... In addition, the High Court recalled...that the authority of the military commander is temporary, and the fact that the belligerent occupation is taking place for long time does not expand the powers of the Occupant... Using as a point of departure that Israel holds the Occupied West Bank in belligerent occupation, the High Court said that the authority of the military commander in that area flows from the provisions of public international law established principally in the 1907 Hague Regulations... A spade is a spade is a spade.

now if you can convince Bruriah Sarah that those long posts she has saved in her computer's memory are not accurate at all. Good post. Regards.

What part of "destroying Israel" wrapped in the bland term of "resistance" (terrorism)against "occupation" (Israel) doesn't she get?

"So you`re implying that if they are doing it to their own peope it`s okay, or less of an issue." No, I am saying that the treatement of Palestinians by Israel is an INTERNATIONAL issue, because it involves Israel abusing Other People. An international organization like the UN can therefore attempt to intervene. Every zionist points to the disaster in the Sudan and asks WHY the UN does not come down as hard on them, and the answer is simple; that involves a breakdown in the INTERNAL cohesion of a country, and the UN is necessarily restricted by the terms of its own Charter in interferring in the INTERNAL affairs of a country. Apartheid SA involves racial discrimination, and the UN response was to make it a pariah state, but it was when SA created Bantustans that the UN could act more forcefully, because it meant that SA itself was insisting that Apartheid was an INTERNATIONAL issue, coz it pretended each Bantustan was a nation. See the difference?

God, what is your basis for plopping down in the Holy Land and claiming title since all the Evangelical folks insist God is a Century 21 agent having given Jews title to the land? I knew you would tell the truth after a while, yup, I knew you would. You said in another post Jesus was a Roman myth (I assume you meant what Christians say about him arising, blah bal, since he absolutely existed), and now you say there is no God. So what is Israel based on cause her actions are more in line with your heathen beliefs than those yelling the bible says this or that? If there is no God on your side, you are surely in trouble, yup, you are. Have coffee. Keep looking.

one of the tired, worn out defenses of the rah rah bad Zionist behavior crowd. And, you did it succintly! I do agree, yessiree, I do. And to David's post the rah rah supporters say, what? Regards. Keep posting.

Very, very thought provoking. Regards. Keep blogging.

FOX. The two state solution with the fence/wall will obviously not work, just look around..What will work? Perhaps a single state. Oh, no, you say, this will never work, the PALS outbirth us by nearly 4 to 1. OK. Set it up so that you have only one vote per household. Also have government more dispersed to include all minorities on a rotating basis. No one, not a person or even an animal will soil where they live. Does it work?. It does for me. One of my gransons is at my left shoulder.I'm afraid I can't see too clearly right now. My family has incorporated inclusion in all of our lives. My family is a wonderfull rainbow, a kaleidescope of colors, all interspersed within each other. I wish this for my beloved Land before I leave. I wish it for you and your family.

FOX, Your point is well taken, we probably would not be here now. I know full well of the 57 years you speak of, since I am now older than I thought G-d would allow. My few talents have allowed me and my family a good life. I wish that for all who live here and participate in their daily efforts. Irresistable force vs the immovable object invariably results in a standoff, so that 100 years from now we may well be celebrating 157 years of "lasting" This I do not wish for any of us, Israeli or Arab, a proposed solution follows....

"The Arab inhabitants of the Middle East derive from Saudi Arabia" For you to be more accurate I suggest you say the Arabian Peninsula and not Saudi Arabia which has not existed as a sovereign state for very long! Your statement is not entirely true either. The number of Muslims coming out of the Arabian Peninsula were quite small. In fact most of the Muslims in the Middle East were native to the region. Semites by race and language. Iv'e told you this before.

You seem to imply that the right to exist only belongs to historically sovereign states. This is a regressive argument. How does one become a sovereign state in the first place? No sovereign state called Italy or Germany existed until the late 19th century. In fact the UK didn't formally come into existence until the 1920's. The idea of a sovereign state equals some sort of right to exist is clearly a weak argument. I am not denying Israel's right to exist. By using capital letters in your posts you are contributing to global warming. Calm down. You know it makes sense.

"The Sudanese are doing worse? No question, but they are doing it to their own citizens." "Pol Pot carried out genocide? No doubt, but it was genocide against his own people." So you're implying that if they are doing it to their own peope it's okay, or less of an issue. Then you think that Apartheid in South Africa was okay too, becasue they were doing it to their own people. And Saddam was okay when he murdered a whole town of his own people! Unbelievable! In actual fact its 100% worse when dictators do it to their own citizens Johnboy. Declaring that Israel's actions of self defense are illegal while giving legitimacy to Palestinian terror in the name of "resistance" is being very biased and cynical. People bring up the other atrocities in the world not to excuse Israel's actions, but to point out the hipocracy of people like you and EU leftists who bash Israel for defending itself while condoning the real atrocities in the world.

"It is not a question as to whether Israel is or not treating the Palestinians right or wrong" Yes it is, and it is dishonest to say: "but.. but.. look at THEM! They are doing WORSE!" So sorry, but if Israel's actions are illegal then they are illegal, and are not made any the less illegal because Other People have also engaged in illegality. That argument would render all crime legitimate, David, because every criminal will simply say "What, house break-in? Everyone is doing THAT!". The Sudanese are doing worse? No question, but they are doing it to their own citizens. Pol Pot carried out genocide? No doubt, but it was genocide against his own people. Israel doesn't indulge in anything like THAT - agreed - but it deserves condemnation for the actions that it DOES carry out, and when it does that against *non-Israelis* then that is an INTERNATIONAL issue. That makes it EVERYONES concern.

There are two clickfools,1 is the one in front of the mirror,the other is the one you see in the mirror. Have you understood now? I hope both of you have a nice day.

TV camaramen recently kidnapped in "downtown Gaza" Could this be the payback promised for their "safe" release by the terrorists?

You are a lier! You say; "But of course they are all evangelical christians, mostly from the biblebelt!" Well, I am not religious at all and i support Israel 1000% !!!

That I am no rightwinger. It's only FAILURES like you, arseholes like prickFOOL, morons like the 3 "M"'s (marilyn/marlene/mo-ann) now morphed into ONE the rightwing & sometimes arrogant "wannabees" from the Galut who bring out the worst in me. Eat your filthy heart out Yakoub.....we ARE here to stay!

It is not a question as to whether Israel is or not treating the Palestinians right or wrong,it is the criticism from people like the Australians who have done far worse to the Aborigines than anything the Israelis might have done to the Palestinians. Israel has been accused of ethnic cleansing,Apartheid,murder,rape,theft,deportations and who knows what else. This is what Australia did to the Aborigines,the Americans to the Indians,it is what the Arabs are doing in Iraq to there own kind.The British did it on the island of Diego Garcia,Pol Pot did it to his own people in Cambogia.The Sudanese are doing in Darfur. Name on instance where Israel has commited murder,rape,mass deportations,Apartheid,ethnic cleansing.I mean numbers,dates and places,this does not exist except in the minds of clueless idiots,who repeat what they read on this talk back.

JOE , ARE YOU STARVING IN THE RAMALLAH GHETTO, ARE THEY DROPPING LIKE FLIES FROM STARVATION , ARE THERE RAILWAY TRAINS TO TAKE YOU AWAY? JOE JORDAN AWAITS AND YOU WILL BE REALLY HAPPY THERE

you can walk on water. That will not happen until you and your fellow racist/warmongers, learn to treat others as you would like to be treated, love your neighbour, and stop stealing of him!

You get all innocent when you get it back. You wan't starvation blockade remember your block of Jerusalem.The UNRWA was not there to feed the Jews.We built our own road under fire instead of bitching. Your analysis of the rise of Hitler is an insult to your intelligence,do not advertise it read the"Rise an fall of the 3rd Reich"instead.

"Hamas should be arrested for kidnapping, and executed" He's in hiding in Syria, Terje - you'll never get him.

"God will return all of the aboriginal Jews!" Tie me kangaroo down, Abe, tie me kangaroo down... (;-) CF

"That is apparent in almost every one of the The Talkback 24/7 Man`s Talkback post." Good morning, Joanne. I actually post only sporadically throughout the day - certainly far less than most of the regulars. It just seems to you that I loom over Talkback. So I take this as a compliment. Thank you.

It's always the same people. There's one who babbles on about Mossad under my name. Thene there's this one with this favourite shtick: "We will soon hear that "new" "weapons" tunnels have been discovered (which are actually used to smuggle food)." This, of course, then enables his fellow Zionists to seize hold of this line and brandish it with whoops of glee. Yes, you lot, I KNOW this is buffalo droppings. Perhaps the Mossad Fake and the Tunnels for Food Fake are one and the time onanist.

its an exact carry-out of the axiom "cut off his nose to spite his face." the world "believes" they are boycotting the hamas led gov't, but is that true? ONLY the people are suffering.... not the governments... dahlan, the master vampire, is getting richer on the blood of the pals, and so are his fatah cronies. meanwhile, the pals -as a people- are slowly dying of starvation, malnutrition, and deficiency in health care because a heartless, coward, conspiring, blood sucking world must kneel to the heartless KINGDOM OF ISRAEL. shame on the world community. remember: what goes around, COMES around. today the pals, tomorrow... who knows!

42ND ST. TIME FOR YOUR PILLS YAAKOV DONT FORGET TO TAKE THEM !!

worked like a charm then, huh? Oh the idiot masses of the Jewish people who continue to follow their elders as though they remain lost in some desert to this day- needing the WZO, WJC and a dozen other organizations to lead them to the promised land, which has eluded them for over 4,000 years and yet they continue to believe these charlatans who continue to lead them to one calamity after another. The idea of starving people inorder they submit is pretty wicked and evil. When will the Jews learn to stop USING money as a weapon of mass destruction? What good did it do when the Jews put a boycott on Germany in 1933? It allowed what otherwise is a minority party- the Nazi's- to come to power. It's truly amazing, as the world turns, history keeps repeating itself. Another Jewish sponsored eocnomic boycott and when will this madness end? Zionists (with America as proxy) pushed a boycott on Iraq that killed over a million people. Now it's the Palestinians turn to suffer Jewish wrath?

calls for death etc. frenzy over the cartoons. Obviuosly that can be spun by some as poor, defenceless,innocents as opposed to some seriously mean buggers who can turn into a very nasty mob.Handle with care and do not get kidnapped. Till the next riot.

...nejad-HITLER denies that IRAN WANTS TO HAVE NUKES. Both (Indra and Ahmadinejad-HITLER) are muslim. One is Sunni (Indra), anothrt - Shia (Ahmadinejad-HITLER). Ir seems to me that Indra deserves more trust. Ahmadinejad-HITLER wants to deceive the World, just as North Korea did. But in this case Indra should write that Ahmadinejad-HITLER tries to deceive the World. Instead Indra supports Ahmadinejad-HITLER. O muslims! Why are you so "sophisticated"? Jews and Christians, Buddists and Hindu-people are much more clear. Saluti. Buona fortuna.

Hey Simon, you wrote that armed conflict does not work, who says it doesn't work. Actually armed conflict has been quite successful, the odds on us lasting a year were nil, as for 57, ha, who could have thunk such a thing. The problem is when armed conflicts are impeded from taking their natural course. it took Egypt, Jordan and Syria two, for Egypt three wars, to come to the conclusion that they had lost, their goal being the conquering of Israel (Palestine). Now if the Pals would face the reality that their Allah inspired intifada has also been a failure, and now they need to accept Israel and make compromises, then we shall have peace. but as long as the Arab world and the west continues to prop them up, and support Palestinian fighting to the last man woman and child then that may be what they get. I hope not, but the Arab dream of a vanquished Jewish state still spins in their head, causing them to discard the facts on the ground.

From the same land that brought the world Quisling comes the latest stab in the back to international efforts to bring a just peace. BOYCOTT NORWAY!!!

Stop blaming Israel and US for what's happening to your people. Years after years your people have supported leaders who are totally corrupted to lead you and they have led you no where. So go for change of leaderships and take responsibilities for your own actions. There still might be hope for your people.

"Auf wieder sehen und du kannst mir um etc. Verstehen sie." Very intellectual Very Progressive Very clear indication of the pompous self annointed occupiers of the moral high ground.

Norwegians love when you burn their flag destroy their institutions, kidnap and spit at them. The Palestinians where one the most vocal and vicious against Norway for drawing the Cartoon of Mohammed and Noway couldn't wait to be the first ot kotow to Hamas.

Give me a break. Norway ............ really. What is it with this country? Do they think There is oil in the gaza strip ? or maybe someone is going to say they are real great guys, give them some oranges , a few dates a camel and invite them over. As a matter of fact, the norwegians must have been at the airport waiting for this to happen. before anyone was sworn in they were in the mid east.Like don't look too egar fellas. Norway .... hard to believe. They must have been afraid the Azores were going to get to the west bank first and pat all the Pals on the back.

Norway is just an isolated state on the edge of Europe. It is not even a member of the European Union. In population, Norway is even smaller compared to the EU than Cuba is compared to the USA. So why get exited about this? The EU wants Norway to stop whaling, but it refuses to do so. Does anyone really believe that any decision taking in rural Oslo has an impact on politics in Brussels? It sounds like Belize telling the US Congress what to do... This said, there is also a strong evangelical movement (mainly Pentecostalists) in Norway supporting Israel. I always meet a lot of them flying from Amsterdam to Tel Aviv.

Indra who is sick and tired but instead of seeing a doctor,he is whining and ranting here. You will be more sick and tire if you keep thinking that Iran will get the nuclear bomb!!!LOL

First of all, your site Madre.org is completely biased against Israel. It does not even pretend to be objective, and is certainly tainted. Please go to IRINNEWS.ORG Report ID#69913. A sample: "The UNRWA provides food to 1.1 million of 1.4 million who live in the Strip." The fact that Israel has has a lockdown on Gaza, and the Quartet has cut off aid, does not mean people are starving. They may be hungry, but they are not dying. I do not know if you believe in tough love. I think not. If the Arabs are allowed to host a terrorist government (especially post-9/11), then where does it stop. We are at war with fanatical Islamicists. We cannot, must not allow them a bridgehead anywhere. To say yes to Hamas is to concede defeat on the War on Terror. The Pal's have gone down the wrong path, and unfortunately at a very bad time.

I doubt those figures. What is the source?

Thank you for the confirmation. I know what you believe.

SOMEONE CALL LABHRAS WHO CREATES HAMBUGS HE WILL AGREE WITH YOU IF YOU LET HIM GET YOU TO MITIGATE HIS COMPOSURE HE DECIDES ON HIS BROCHURE HAS NO BRAINS TO SPEAK OF CARRIES AS THO' A TOFF WHICH HE IS NOT WE KNOW HIS EDUCATION IS ALL SHOW TO IGNORE HIM IS BEST OUR ADVANTAGE IS A TEST LET HIM STEW IN HIS JUICE ARE PROUD BEING JUST JEWS RANTING,RAVING IN CONTENT WE'LL BEAT HIM,NO REGRET LABHRAS THE JACKASS ENJOYS BEING ONE LABHRAS THE CRASS GO AWAY AND CURSE WE'LL WAVE HIM HERE THEN DISCARD HIM AT WILL. P/S Haaretz.This is for #298 papalbull. please let him read it.Thank you

It is important for your physical and mental well-being. You are too tired now. We are able (temporarily) to live without your instructions. People of the World

the US anymore. Whether I travel or not, HELLO, my post refers to an Israeli who complained that his Israeli wife and friends were held up or treated differently than he was with his Canadian passport. Any problems with his perceptions, tell him about it!! He laid out his complaints and I commented (I don't remember his post number but I cited it). Period.

PAYMENT? FROM WHOM PRAY,AND FOR WHAT?FOR TELLING IT LIKE IT IS.GET AWAY AND DO NOT BOTHER TO RESPOND.YOU ARE A BLOODY FOOL! I WILL NOT BE INSULTED BY YOU TELLING ME I RECEIVE PAYMENT ESPECIALLY,WHEN I AM A PROUD JEW,PROUD OF ISRAEL AND MY PEOPLE. END OF DISCUSSION. BESIDES I WAS NOT POSTING TO YOU BUT TO BRANT. (NOT BROD)IT SEEMS YOU DID HAVE ONE TOO MANY? I WILL TRY GERMAN IF YOU WISH.TRY ME ON SPANISH,FRENCH,ITALIAN,TURKISH,GREEK,EVEN MORE. I AM ADEPT AT MANY LANGUAGES,IN THIS MY QUITE YOUNG LIFE. GARBAGE COMES FROM YOU,AND CERTAINLY NOT FROM ME. REASON IS I HAVE NO NEED TO,WHEREAS YOU HAVE AND YOU SHOW IT TO MANY PEOPLE HERE WHO DISAGREE WITH YOU VEHEMENTLY. A REMINDER,THE ONES WHO INDULGE IN PARTISAN POST TO THE PALIS'ARE THE ONES WHO GET SOME "DOSH".NOT OUR LOT THANK YOU! P/S Sorry about the caps,too late and lazzy. So,ouf vieder sehen?Nein,ich will nicht,danke,and I hope you understand me perfectly. P/S Haaretz this is for Labhras #329 Thank

I never said that the Pal's were uneducated, even though most that visit this site seem incoherent to me. My point is that if Norway was truly an altruistic nation, there are other options than sending money to Hamas. They could open their arms to the Pal's by opening their borders. I guess that I am taunting Norway, trying to see how committed they really are to solving the problems of the ME. As long as its thousands of miles away and not in their backyard, what do they care what there money is used for?

Tor, some things are black and white. It is called taking a stand. Your country is the first to break ranks with the West. It's not exactly grey. There is no doubt that your nation has made a strong attempt to bring Israel and the Pal's together. For that, Thank you very much. Oslo's failure should not be made worse by trying to marry Israel and Hamas. It is different now. Hamas is not a partner for peace. It is Black and White.

I wonder how many other more deserving causes there are in the world. Peoples that could use Norways help. So it is interesting that Norway chooses this cause in particular. Maybe its the tremendous failure of the Oslo accords that motivate your nation. So now you want to keep on digging that hole . . . . Tell me more about Luther . . . .

Lovely photos of the Norwegian flag next to the Israeli flag. :-)

Howdy Hannah; I would not call appeasement of, collaboration with, and giving material support to an internationally recognized terrorist organization to be "humanitarian leadership". I would call it short-sighted, naive, and counter-productive.

"You are calling an entire country of people immoral". Wonder if Ballistic learned that from you lynn.You are pretty adept at making general statements re Arabs. Glass houses.

Collaborators with Hamas have no sympathy for Palestinians. Collaborators with Nazis have no sympathy for Germans. Norwegians deserve to feel - in full - all of the pain, terror, and death that Palestinians will suffer if Hamas seizes power.

The bastard Aryan State of No-way recognizes the Pal coalition government for these reasons; It does not recognize Israel, does not denounce violence and does not recognize any prior agreements.

Kath, perhaps you should bone up firstly on good manners as you obviously lack same.Your silly and adolescent penchant for insulting those who disagree with you is well noticed here and is indicative of your inability to make your point intelligently or from a position of knowledge. The fact that you probably do this for a living says a lot about you and more importantly about those who pay you. You only spout the same recycled garbage that your handlers brainwash you with. You are incapable of original thought. Auf wieder sehen und du kannst mir um etc. Verstehen sie.

Norway, as always, is merely showing the humanitarian leadership that the rest of the world (excluding, of course, so-called Israel) sooner or later follows. Heia Norge! Gratulerer!

Palestinian children aren't starving. International compassionate aid such as food and medicine is sent to the Palestinian territories. Despite degenerates attacking UN convoys and personnel.

i applaud - but not accept - your post.

You are calling an entire country of people immoral. That is why they call you an anti-semitic person. You are being the same kind of person you say you despise. ALL Israelis are immoral? Are ALL white Americans racists?

It never ceases to amaze me -- the utter lack of compassion of the Jewish people. Yes, there are starving Palestinians -- starving Palestinian CHILDREN! But the Jews keep their ears and their eyes shut. The world will know the truth.

I will make sure all my Lutheran friends here in the US read your post.How fast the Jews forget who their friends were in WWII. How fast the Jews forget those who sacrificed for the sake of Jews.

israel, please put more checkpoints, much more.

Hamas government officials should be arrested for kidnapping, murder, and terrorism, put on trial and executed.

Talk about drama queens. Look at your melodramatic post.

Chick You are quite right.I mean meeting with Abbas it is something(bad enough),but with Hamas? Now that is asking for trouble that does not bode well.In the end,they will regret it! It must be the "Quisling" legacy coming to the surface. On the other hand,we must not lump all the Norwegians in the same basket. As you see there are Norwegians here who are disputing this man's stupid interference and not applauding it. Take one Terje,he is telling it loud and clear,and we must give credit where credit is due.But I fear they are in the minority........

Hey, don't take it so hard. Everyone thought it would work. Pals can't be trusted to live up to their word. No honor.

In Gaza, Islamists kidnap BBC news correspondent Alan Johnston. Johnston hasnt been seen or heard from since. The BBC news agency supports Islamism (even to the point of being a propaganda machine for Islamism). Therefore the BBC deserves whatever harm Islamists do to the BBC. Norway supports Islamists like Hamas. Therefore, Norway deserves whatever harm Islamists do to Norway, such as when Islamists issue death threats against Norwegians in the Cartoon Riots.

have you forgotten uk christian heritage or you became a darwanist instead.

I don't think ballistic travels. If she did, she would know there are checkpoints at every airport in the US and the EU as well as Canada. We were held at the Canadian border for three hours because one of our traveling companions was checked out to the max. It's just the times we live in.

Before becoming PM, he never officially supported the right of Palestinians "to exist" in their own souvereign state. He was a factor in provoking the second intifada and he has for many decades been the greatest settlement builder of all, an obstacle to a two state solution and the peace process. Still the world comunity, while grinding their teeth, accepted him as the democratically elected leader, and rightly so. Now its America's and Israel's turn to accept Haniyeh as the elected leader of the Palestinians, like him or not.

I guess the 3 bomb attempts by homicide/suiciders, kidnapping of BBC Johnston, attempted kidnapping of the head of UNWRA, the shooting of a guy fixing a grid for the electric co., Islamic Jihad guy who blew himself up and injured 20 people including children, the Qassems falling on Israel every day is justified. I don't think you are anti-semitic, just have a very strange grasp of reality. If not for bombs which killed so many in Israel,which would include tourists and children, there would be no checkpoints to go through.

One of the the most fanatic Jews killed the PM of Israel (Palestinian fanatics didn't get that low yet). Another hung himself with Tefillin after having shot a few Arabs. The entire region is overcrowded with fanatics at both sides.

Brant He takes it as gospel and no contradiction. When I asked him about his readership he went along a list of people we all know are "leftist" Jews,writers with an agenda to sell books,which is after all how they earn their living.Instead he should diversify and read others to get a balanced view of the historical narrative.With a stubborn nutter you cannot argue.They stick to one thought and miracle occurs,which pronto it clarifies their what they really want to hear,and shut their eyes and become deaf and dumb to the rest. No point in sticking only to certain books,it can be not only confusing,but also does not advance one's knowledge on it's authenticity overall.Silly Labhras such a "doomkopf"! I would never depend on just one author,but read several if one needs to get at the real truth,and not just swallow things up without due process to one's brain cells..............

Terje Why don't you go on a march and put your objections out.Easy to do,and I agree with your sentiments.It is like an open "sesame door" to every would be Islamist terror movement that exists throughout Eurabia. Who is this "doofus" anyway,and how did the Norwegian government allow it to happen? Unless of course they santioned it.Which as some people have said about the famous "quizzling" in your country during the timeof Hitler Mmmmm?.......................... I approve of your response terje.

Norway's collaboration with Hamas is worse than Quisling's collaboration with Nazis. Norway does evil.

Norway's collaboration with Hamas is worse than Quisling's collaboration with Nazis. Norway does evil.

Terje: "Norway is helping Hamas murder Jews". Ballistic: "How exactly does your statement make sense"? Terje: Hamas is an organization with extremist ideology, more evil than the Nazis, IMHO. Hamas continually kidnaps and murders Jews and strives to do much more harm, eventually to overthrow the Jewish government and genocide the Jewish population. But Norway recognizes the Hamas terror government as legitimate? Norway does evil. Ballistic: "[Norwegian officials] are trying to save the Pals from annihilation and subjugation from people who think like you. Yeah Norway!" Terje: Norway helps Hamas rise to power. If Hamas takes power, Hamas will transform Palestine into a tyranny worse than the Taliban. Hamas will murder all Muslim dissidents and crush all Nonmuslims. Hamas will state-sponsor terrorism. Hamas will catalyze the overthrow of "moderate" Muslim govts. Hamas will destabilize the entire Mideast. Eventually millions will die because of Norway.

Get a life!!!

you may have heard general craddock tell the world israel is of immense military value to the usa.what with its 300 f16s and 100 f15s. and so close to the scene of conflict in the middle east. you know although the usa insists on giving us the cash i would rather not have it.but i dont want to hurt their feelings.

the next 10000 years.

Let's hope so, coz Israel does so love to rattle the sabre when people in the region do things she doesn't like; it'll be a pleasant change for the IAF fly-boys to overfly colder climates. Put it on the target list after Lebanon, Syria and Iran, Olmert. Or if it's just *too* far away then tell the US State Department to put Norway on the list of terrorist countries; after all, Syrian support for Hezbollah gets her on that list, so Norway's support for Hamas should guarantee her swift addition to the ranks of the Axis of Evil. Or are the rules different when the country in question is not full of oily, oinky Arabs?

This is one American who thinks it was great that Israel has "sucked" (as you call it) $110 billion in aid. For all the years of the cold war, Israel did our dirty work in the middle east. They kept the Soviets (through their Syrian and Egyptian surrogates out of the mediterranean and most importantly, from having a port in the eastern mediterranean. They are a true ally; as the Brits were in WWII and I am glad our country has overwhelmingly continued to believe in standing by them.

OK then, Ilya, I'll call your bluff. I'll accept that the British (not Australia, of course) stole the land from the aborigines. I accept that current and past Australia governments treat(ed) their indigeneous population appallingly and, in many, many cases, criminally. Guilty, guilty, guilty. Now, YOU tell ME how that makes Israel anything other than the Occupying Power, and the West Bank the area it has under belligerent occupation, and the Palestinians who live on that land anything other than protected persons under occupation who deserve to be treated according to the terms of the 4th Geneva Convention? How, in fact and in law, the illegal or immoral actions of Someone Else totally ABSOLVES Israel from the illegality or immorality of its own actions? Come on, Ilya, tell me ..... I'll wait .....

As I said,, belive it or not.. But Norway actually is very divided on Israel..It aslo contains the best friends of Israel you can hardly find elsewhere in Europe.. But of course they are all evangelical christians, mostly from the biblebelt! Every now and then there are proIsraeli rallies..Sometimes they are even attacked by mostly muslims.. Here are some links..: http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=125750 http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/article478323.ece

Who could be a better icebreaker than Norway. Try it again and again and..........!!!

Dont you care that Palestinian Islamists discriminate viciously? Palestinian Islamists are brazenly Antijewish, seeking to murder and harm Jews - and dont distinguish between Israelis and Jews. Palestinian Islamists are brutally Antiwomen - seeking to erase all civil rights that women have achieved. Palestinian Islamists are Antihuman - striving to extinguish Nonmuslim religions - striving to outlaw freedom of religion - striving to murder freedom of speech. Palestinian Islamists are draconian tyrants - eliminating freedom of speech - controlling access of news organizations - murdering Muslims who dissent. Palestinian Islamists are evil - yearning for genocide - celebrating murder-suicide. Palestinian Islamists are more evil than the Nazis.

WHere are all the fanatical Jews you are referring to? Are they rampaging in the streets calling for death of infidels? Are they damaging property because of some cartoons? Are they threatening to wipe another country off the map? Are they marching through London with signn calling for death to those who insult their God. Tell me Norwegian, where are they?

when he sees someone sticking it to the jews he is incredibly grateful.

When will you vacate you lodgings and offer them to an aboriginie familly to make amends for the benefits that have acrued to you form the genocide of the aborigines.Even though they were exterminated form the are your ancestors arrived before they arrived, they and you have been the beneficiaries of all the wealth stolen for the aborigines over generations and so your continued presence in australia is tacit support for the genocide and makes an accomplice after the fact.In fact all of Australia should be tried for crimes against humanity, the euros should go back home and the land revert to the original inhabitants.If this reasoning is good for israel then why not for you? Know why? You dont care about palestine or anything else other than hating jews.

Norway which is not apart of the EU is acting as the back channel for the EU.Anyone who thought that their would be a "grand western coalition" against hamas as part of the war on terror, all in favour of an israeli govt not really interested in serious negotiations was and is a deluded fool.This is issue is fundamental to the core intrests of the big international players.Does anybody really think they dont know that Olmerts thing is all about Ariel and a few dunams more? Does anybody think the EU would get behind that?? They are keeping up appearances while negotiating through the Norwegian back door.You right wingers are so deluded with your fantasies of nonsense and of UNREAL POLITIC.Its all about intrests get it??

Israels per capita earnings is also much greater than the palestinians and Israel has sucked 110 billion in aid from the U.S.and still counting.

Our sitting government is the most STUPID government EVER!!! They are SOOOOOOOO stupid.. !!! S-T-U-P-I-D!!! Thank GOD that they are falling like crazy on the polls!! May they never ever EVER reenter the governmental office again!!! Please forgive our STUPID goverment.. They only "won" last election because of our electionsystem.. The rightwing got more than 50%.. but for nothing.. Dear friends, help us and mail all your comments to our STUPID sitting government.. !! So we can cick them out, before we get totally isolated, and stuck with only islamist regimes..

the intransigence of Israel in her occupation and oppression for 60 years. Just lambast the likely result. If the situation were reversed, you would do the EXACT same thing, only sooner than 60 years. Be fair.

If israelis asked for bribes from Arab passengers at ben Gurion you would be screaming corruption and zionism bla bla bla, but here you engage in apologies when it is the other way around.You are without a doubt the most grotesque and freaking hypocrite I have EVER seen.You are no Jew thats for sure.

Interesting. I read once that FDR assured Chaim Weizmann that Arab objections to the Jewish state would be ameliorated by a "little baksheehsh" Amazing, how over 60 years later the old is new again or is it? Perhaps you, Fox, have hit upon a solution to the problem of obtaining peace..Armed conflict doesn't seem to work..

post is "he will return", not "they will return themselves" and "aboriginal jews", both very interesting concepts. Sort them out.

very melodramatic! How exactly does your statement make sense? They are trying to save the Pals from annihilation and subjugation from people who think like you. Yeah Norway!

YOU KNOW BALLISTIC I NEVER MENTION GOD IN ANY OF MY POSTS SO WHERE DO YOUR GET YOUR DELUSIONS FROM ?? IF THERE WAS A GOD LIKE YOU IMAGINE WOULD THE HOLOCAUST HAVE HAPPENED ?? THE POST I AM REPLYING TO SHOWS THAT YOU ACTUALLY FROTH AT THE MOUTH LIKE SOMEONE WITH RABIES !! YOUR REPLIES TO ALL POSTERS CONFIRM YOU ARE DELUSIONAL !!

Palestinian father Most of us know that you are not starving and you do have food.We are not in the delusional business.What you say,makes sense,and it would be to your benefit to have no Qassama and bombs and have a more peaceful life,for you and family which also applies to the Israeli families as well. I commend your post,and may your leaders and wrong supporters see sense ans wake up and smell the lovely COFFEE........Salam/Shalom

Can we get this one #29 Tara on the Fox news channel, They might be able to do a "Fair and Balanced "take on it.

THE ANTI SEMITES LIKE YOU HAVE BEEN BORING HOLES IN THE HULL FOR 85 YEARS !! WE ARE STILL AFLOAT AND HAVE HAD SEVERAL REFITS . IF THE USA GOES DOWN SO DOES THE FREE WORLD GET IT INTO YOUR WOODEN TOP !!

Thanks for that very valuable tidbit. I have not been to Norway for years. Sounds like a good time to go there and meet some fellow peace lovers.

Maria and I both think he should be in the Government.

WHAT A WAFFLER IS THIS CLICKY. JUST CHURNS HYPOTHETICALS WITHOUT GETTING TO THE NUB OF THE MATTER.VERY CONVENIENT FOR HIM AND IT IS AN EASY OPTION TO PUT OUT. "SILLY BUGGER",OOOPS!I AM NAUGHTY,BUT HE DESERVES THE APPELATION...................

Norway helps Hamas murder the Jews of Israel

May the Gods Bless Norway.

Paul Why is it we have to repeat the same things to these so-called ignoramuses? Conversely,i do not think they are ignorant,but proclaim this status to generate their sprurious agenda. I'll say it again.NO SUCH PEOPLE CALLED ARAB PALESTINIANS,AND THE REAL PALESTINIANS ARE THE JEWS,JEWS,JEWS

bombings, attempted bombings, kidnappings, attempted kidnappings all by Pals. Sniper Pal shooting a guy working for the Electric co. Sure is a great time in Gaza and the West Bank. Jews are fanatical? Most incredibly idiotic statement to date.

You're hiding behind Kahane the way some Palestinian fighters hide behind their families. What is this pre-occupation with Kahane. For the third time I dislike him as much as you do. The question for you, Mr. Sullivan is do you have any capacity at all to work with the millions of Israelis who want peace or are they all just little Kahanes to you? (If it's that then I'll stop bothering you and wish that God or someone helps you.

my country is a little fart with a big smell. That how we make ourselves "important"

Psalm 126 the ancient prophecy: The song of the ascensions [to Zion]. In the return of God with the captivity of Zion, we were like ones dreaming. Then laughter filled our mouths, and gladness our tongues. Then in the nations they said, "God made a great [miracle] to do [this] with these [people of Zion]". God made a great [miracle] to do [this] with us. We were celebrating. God, return with [all of] our captivities! Like [the surging water of] the wadis in [the desert of] the Negev. They sowing in weeping will harvest in gladness. Going [away from Zion] he will go, and crying, carrying [his] basket of the seed. Coming [back to Zion] he will come in gladness, carrying his sheaves [of the harvested grain].

You're the ony one of us making reference to "drama queens". I asked you to define Zionist. See, when geniuses like you write about "Zionists" you usually have no idea what you're saying. You use it as an epithet. You use it the way some folks use the "n" word etc. So it seemed fair to ask you for your definition so we could have a chance of understanding if you actually had anything to say or were just another Jew-baiter out for some fun.

As a Norwegian, I am glad to know that Norway doesn't matter much in the world.The Oslo process turned out to be a carastrophe. Let's hope our stupid gowernment of today will not be able to repeat such a mistake

The point was that they would have a far better chance of being granted asylum and eventual Citizenship in Europe than in Israel.And I mean non Europeans.Do your home work better.You do have books in CANADA ????

Dont feel to bad for him /her??.There will be Jobs open in the new state of Palestine. Now lets see. Hotel reception--No. Topographer-- Maybe. Construction na .Israeli history- no Talk back site ----Janitor, --yep.

I'm surprised that you did not appear to grasp the import of the message and allowed yourself to be sidetracked with that dusty ideology known as zionism. But maybe you can tell us what you think a Drama Queen is. That was the term that put you in a tizzy. Your anwer may enlighten us but you will certainly amuse us.

Keep your posted thought in mind and it will only be ME dreaming. YOu didn't answer an important question and that is if God is on Israel's side, why all the angst and talk about Iran, this and that? Either you believe you are god's chosen and he will defend you or you don't believe it. So, which is it? Seems like a majority of zionists in fact don't believe it otherwise they would not be as busy as bees trying to stave off justified criticism. Don't become senile on me talking about setting off nukes cause you are old and figure you lived your life. YOu better HOPE there is a God, not Satan, on your side, yup, you better hope there is! Have coffee.

America has got wobbly legs right now-Israel will have trouble standing alone without America. The American people are waking up to the fact that they too are an 'occupied people.' It is in Israels best interest to stop its cruel, facist like behavior. Wake up Paul, you are on a sinking ship!

It is a pity the world does not have more such governments and politicians showing the way to peace and humanity! By continuing to withhold Palestinian tax money and calling for the starvation boycott to remain in place, simply to assist in killing off the indigenous Palestinian race, Israel is showing the rest of the world just how a supremacist society behaves toward another race of people who they consider to be 'inferior' to themselvs!! It is amazing how Israeli politicians can keep a straight face while being interviewed in front of TV cameras-speaking of "must recognize Israel," "refuse to talk to 'terrorist' Hamas".....blah, blah! The whole world has witnessed Israel's double standards. Surely it is in Israel's best interest to accept the fact it is a little nation and will remain a little nation. It must go back to pre 1967 borders! Why should world peace be jeopardized, simply to accomodate the swelling ego of spoilt, belligerent expansionist Israel!

C'mon! Where is Norway. What is it? Is this s country of an oil field? Just shut them down and call your ambassador back. Norway just wants some publicity and wants to kiss the deviljust to show that they exist. Cut relation and expel all norvegians out if Israel. Let them freeze in they "country".

i would like to thank the person who will approve this talk back for making me number 259 on what should be a list of talk backs on the worst topic ever. thankyou numbertwofivenine

The revival of quisling'.

Terje, you have it all backward. The problem is Israel brutally and illegally occupying the territories and treating the palestinians in subhuman ways. Israel can stop this conflict any day it wants to by simply withdrawing from all the territories to pre-67 boundaries. Terrorists will no longer be supported by Palestinians because of the risk of war with Israel. The real truth here - but seldom said out loud is that Israel does not want to withdraw - they want to push the palestinians out or into isolated enclaves like Gaza.

Palestinian Father isnt "normal". In Gaza, hes fringe. "Normal" Palestinians in Gaza are Islamists who support terror-suicide, genocide, dictatorship, global Islamic supremacy, abolishment of human rights for everyone except male Muslims, etc. "Normal" Palestinian Muslims do evil. Its just the way it is. Europeans should know cultures dont always have the same values. Europeans are idiots for assuming Palestinian Muslims think exactly like Europeans do except their women wear funny clothing.

values of Israel you are touting. Gee, what everybody is discussing and debating is her lack of moral values and fiber, at least the gov't. So, exactly what is it you are talking about specifically to support your claim? Regards.

Norway is THE most beautiful of the Scandinavian countries! You would have enjoyed your holiday to the fullest there. What a shame that you cancelled your visit for a principle! Your loss! As a Scandinavian, I understand, how people look at the ME from here; the Scandis really want to be "fair". The word "occupation" is still freshly in the memory of not only the Scandinavians(Norway,Denmark) but of other European countries, too: Poland, Holland, France etc. - It is a trauma and they do NOT want that experience repeated anywhere in the world. Here in Scandinavia Israel is regarded as an occupier of the Pal-land in the WB, but they also recognize Israel's right to exist. Let me remind you that there were some Scandis, who arrived in Israel in-67 war to FIGHT on Israel's side. In-73 we rejoiced over Israel's victory. Israel himself changed all that...and today we are living in a different kind of reality.

shouts to all who will listen as he raises his arm: "another zooby for zayin!"

OF ARMAGEDDON !! BALLISTIC KEEP YOUR FINGERS AND LEGS CROSSED IT COULD HAPPEN IF CRETINS LIKE YOU DONT STOP ATTACKING ISRAEL!!

the vicitms were non-Jews, especially Arabs. His immoral racism stands on its own and exists apart from the question of Arab on Arab violence. Kahane hated Arabs and believed that they must be gotten rid of by any means so that the Jewish body could live collectively. He worked to make it a crime for a Jew to have sexual relations with an Arab. As I said he died as he lived. His life may have been couched in love for his fellow Jew but that require a visceral hatred for the non-Jew who he saw as the eternal enemy of the Jew. Now you tell me what does that sound like, only in reverse?

calculator in front of me and working out how many jew hate posts you make every day. ten thousand hate posts to the motley fool site is pretty astronimical.do you vandalise jewish graveyards in your spare time.

Carmela, there is an old Swiss saying: "The innocents with their good-natured naivety will save the world". Well, the Norwegians may be innocent and naive, but I wouldn't be too sure when it comes to Swiss-Dino....:)

PALESTINA WAS A ROMAN COLONY AFTER THE EXPULSION OF MOST JEWS IN AD70. THE ARAB INHABITANTS OF THE MIDDLE EAST DERIVE FROM SAUDI ARABIA . NO SOVEREIGN COUNTRY NAMED PALESTINE HAS EVER EXISTED !!

Norwegian: "If helping the helpless Palestinians is anti-Semitic, I am anti-Semite and proud of it". Norwegian, you are absolutely Antisemitic. Most Palestinians are Islamists and arent "helpless". They aggressively seek to destroy human rights. You, Norwegian, "proudly" help these Islamists, the same ones who demanded to murder Norwegians and Danes during the Cartoon Riots. You help these Islamists come to power, so they can * seek to murder the Jews in Israel * destroy the Jewish State of Israel * install an Islamist State of Palestine * remove freedom of religion * erode the civil rights of women * arrest, torture, kill without trial Muslim dissidents * harass and murder Nonmuslims * embolden Islamists to overthow secular governments in Egypt, Turkey, etc. * fuel the imperialist colonialist ideology of Islamism to continue terrorist attacks across Europe * gain legitimacy to acquire nuclear weapons and future military technology You, Norwegian, do evil.

Are you preocupied with Indonejea, at least as much as with Israel?? Did you know that the Palis have a much higher per capita income,much lower mortality rate,much ,much higher life expectancy than your poverty stricken Indonejea? Did you know ,that a few percent of chinese own up to 80 percent of buisnesses, othe minority own the rest??? Moslems do not own almost anything. Does not this dissterbing you??? I am just wondering,only Israel is your problem?? Real Muslim mentality.

finally a normal word from Gaza

sullivan you sound like a school sneak.

Thank you Norway-you did the right thing and stand tall among the nations'of the world.

Why waste letters in your case just one COUS says it all

clickfool you so so boring.so boring.

envision Israel unleashing the 'big one' behind the BS you espouse, Israel would be no more, nope, she would not. You couldn't get off as many nukes as you would need to wipe out the whole ME before one of the neighbors decided you had gone mad and wiped you out!! Think about it. Have some coffee. If you think folks would sit there and take that BS from you, you are sadly mistaken. Nope, your life would be nasty, brutish and short as the philosopher said. You better think up somin else and not go with this BS. Hey, if you are 'god's people' and he is on your side, as the story goes, why would you not wait on him to defend you instead of nukes? Is there a God and is he on your side? Well, we sure will find out if you let loose a nuke! Yup, we will. Regards.

Jason, here is a url for a study of palestinian educational levels - Palestinian ... "achievements are impressive by world standards, and are certainly outstanding in comparison to many Arab countries and most of the third world." http://www.pcdc.edu.ps/Rihani_Palestinian_Educational_Development.htm

As for rotting in their graves, we have an old saying amongst the Xhosa people out here. Roughly translated it is "Bekarov Etzlecha"

that those with Israeli pasports were treated differently than he felt they should be. I was not there. Perhaps your comments would be better directed to the Israeli gentleman who went to Morocco. My point is his experience could be extrapolated to the Pal checkpoints. Regards.

I mean to say "THE TRUTH"....cover your "BIONIC EARS".

Large numbers of Jews and Moslems along with every other nationality/religion live and work here in peace. Too bad Israel can't get to that. Here we have prominent doctors who are married (Jewish/Muslim). I read a Haaretz article that there are large #s of Jews here but that they are not 'religious' or active in Jewish affairs. I don't know that for a fact, but we have no boycotts, this and that on account of religion. Everybody lives happily ever after, Jews included!! No problems here.

He thinks he speaks for all norwegians, but I am NOT one of his fellows! I am a ZIONIST! Israel rules! Deport all the pals to Jordan! That`s where they came from and where they belong.

zionist instead of Jews because I don't think all Jews agree with Zionists, at least those defined as envisioning a Greater Israel. As far Israel's existence, I argue with the issue as to exactly WHERE she is existing and it should not be on occupied lands. As far as Norway, I agree with what they are doing because the zionists keep moving the goal post. In fact, even US is talking to Pal gov't's non-Hamas members. There is little or no support for Israeli actions, esp after Lebanon. Apartheid has no right to exist anywhere. Pals were there first and their rights must be honored over a dubious thousands of year old land claim! Israel is the spoiler according to int'l community and as she keeps making excuses while occupying and slurping land from the Pals, it becomes clear there is zionist resistance to peace. I call it the Masada complex. Regards.

they need someone like you in the palestinian authority.

Okay, Jason - you asked for it - here it is: "Since September 2000, the numbers of Palestinians living in extreme poverty (surviving on less than $2 a day) has tripled to include 60 percent of the population. Unemployment now hovers at around 55 percent in the West Bank and 70 percent in Gaza. Over 22 percent of children under five now suffer from malnutrition compared to 7.6 percent in the year 2000. In a society that was completely food self-sufficient?and even exported food?overall malnutrition levels now rival those of Zimbabwe and the Democratic Republic of Congo. http://www.madre.org/countries/Palestine.html

"saudi arabia came to its senses that israel was right after all" The Saudi Arabian promise to support the MECCA agreement with $500 million in aid is unchanged. What are you baking into your brownies, Maria?

Israeli Leftists are harming Israel. Israeli Leftists must reconsider their priorities. If they continue they will not achieve what they desire but instead will achieve a Gaza-ification of all of the Land of Israel. Israeli Leftists are harming Israel.

will think the way you do.

Saing, Israel has nothing to offer to the world, only conflicts. I guess, he is saing that Arabs/Muslems have more to offer to the world. Men, take your head out of sand.

Norway has just prooven its anti-Israeli biass. Have not followed Norway's politics ; but this action re Pali gov't is proof simple of its animus. No wonder Quisling was Norwegian. It looks consistent . This Saudi political move was a very shrewd one. It will take some time to unwind its effects. It will likely not succeed but it will stir up arguments amongst Jews which one can do without.

Most Norwegians were valiant resisters against the Nazis, as you correctly pointed out, but that doesnt matter to these defenders of ocupation. They will defame any nationa, any religion to justify their occupation aof another people. For them, there is ALWAYS some one worse and anyone who does not accept their justifications must be attacked as an anti-semite, unwitting or otherwise. Hence todays defamation of Norway. You should have read what they wrote on this site when the Norwegian union votied against bringing in produce grwon in the occupied territories.

Meeting with Abbas is something acceptable by European standards but meeting with Hamas directly is clearly overboard. So why is Norway and only Norway doing it? Was it the reaction to the cartoons - are they that scared? Is Norway looking to join the UAE? Or is Norway so anti-Israeli that they would shake hands with Hitler? Anyway, last place I'll buy a ticket to visit. Belgium is very close to runner up.

Norway made a tactical error. Norways support for the terrorist government of the Palestinian Authority will embolden terrorists everywhere. Islamists will agitate across Secular Muslim nations like Turkey and Egypt. The Mideast will spin out of control. Resulting in nuclear conflagration everywhere. Because of Norway, the genie probably out of the bottle. In this war to come, Israeli Jews will likely not lose. However Palestinian Muslims may cease to exist. Norway made a tactical error by emboldening Islamists.

Sami, I fully agree with you the one thing Israel understands is force and they have met their match in Hamas and in some of the surrounding Arab states. And it's about time, I welcome a balance of power in the Middle East. Israel has no right to rule the roost. Dutch

Is it still snowing in Israel, Harzion? I know you go into the public library for a warm, but surely another person has booked internet access on that PC you're using?

UR WORDS RE LIVNI STINK, TO SAY THE LEAST. I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT THESE WORDS WERE PRINTED . NEVER MIND SPOKEN BY A RESPONSIBLE PERSON. Is SINAS CHINOM A JEWISH DISEASE?

Kahane and son were murdered by criminals with the same hatred in their hearts as the sullied hypocrite man has. Kahane never advocated murder, and never celebrated death. Your ill-begotten seed lies on a far lower rung of humanity than their "rotting graves". The sullied man sickness is no different than the sickness that lies at the heart of the Arab League and Jihadhists worldwide. Small hateful men that never amount to anything, and take out their hateful frustration on Jews and humanity while caring not at all for Arabs or their inhumanity to one another and their hate-filled hearts. Mecca and anger hate and jealousy are the root of the ME problems and so obviously sullivan also. May the people of Israel live free from the hateful hearts of vermin and inhumanity and unevolved sickness of humankind however sophisticated or unsophisticated they appear.

Are you saying that you support the destruction of Israel? Anyone who supports Hamas is supporting the destruction of Israel. And if Hamas wins and Israel is destroyed, the islamic fundamentalists will rise and be emboldened to take over other parts of the world. They beleive that non-muslims are to be ruled: The vanquished non-Muslims peoples are granted security for their life and possessions, as well as a relative self-autonomous administration and limited religious rights according to the modalities of the conquest. These rights are subject to two conditions: the payment of a poll tax (the jizya) and submission to the provisions of Islamic law. The concept of toleration is linked to a number of discriminatory obligations in the economic, religious and social fields, imposed by the shari'a on the dhimmis. The transgression by the dhimmis of some of these obligations, abolished their protection, and threaten them with death or slavery. Dhimmis suffered many legal disabilities intended to reduce them to a condition of humiliation, segregation and discrimination. These rules, established from the eight to nine centuries by the founders of the four schools of Islamic law, set the pattern of the Muslim's community's social behavior toward dhimmis. Jews and Christians are referred to as the People of the Book, they share the same legal status, while other religious group - like the Zoroastrians for instance - were more despised and treated harsher. Dhimmitude covers more than a millennium of Christian and Jewish history, as well as of other groups. It is a comprehensive civilization encompassing customs, legislation, social behavior. Numerous laws were enacted over the centuries by the Muslim authorities, to implement its principles. It was abolished during the 19th -20th centuries under European pressure and colonization of Arab countries. http://www.dhimmitude.org/d_history_dhimmitude.php

http://christianactionforisrael.org/antiholo/ml_king.html The Negro people, my friend, know what it is to suffer the torment of tyranny under rulers not of our choosing. Our brothers in Africa have begged, pleaded, requested--DEMANDED the recognition and realization of our inborn right to live in peace under our own sovereignty in our own country. "How easy it should be, for anyone who holds dear this inalienable right of all mankind, to understand and support the right of the Jewish People to live in their ancient Land of Israel. All men of good will exult in the fulfilment of God's promise, that his People should return in joy to rebuild their plundered land. This is Zionism, nothing more, nothing less.

The invaders fled [Gaza] The army of the Jews was defeated The home and the homeland is returning through [Palestinian] blood Not through negotiations, surrender, or promises Allah the Great, be pleased by the sound of thunder...! We will never accept the enemies in the land of our fathers... The invaders fled [Gaza] The army of the Jews was defeated The home and the homeland is returning through [Palestinian] blood Not through negotiations, surrender, or promises... Let the enemies leave the entire land! And take their holy books, which are all black! Our flag was raised and spread out, O Jihad...! The invaders fled [Gaza] The army of the Jews was defeated The home and the homeland is returning through blood [Hamas website, February 2006] they are interested in destroying Israel...and since they never had a land, how can this be occupation? Where is your evidence? What history books? What artifacts? Who was the king? What kind of currency did they use

us Jews and Israelis. You still have not responded to Anat's question why you refuse to recognize Israel's right to exist and why the Jews in your opinion do not deserve a state as all other peoples. Will we ever hear from you about these two questions?

While animals react on instinct, human beings choose their morality, choose to murder, choose to commit terrorist attacks, choose to strap bombs on their kids, choose to kidnap Westerners, choose to start gunfights in front of Palestinian elementary schools... Until the Palestinians choose sanctity of life values, they will continue to suffer... But hey, continue to blame Israel... Palestinians blaming Israel for their lack of moral values has greatly improved their lives, correct?

You despise Kahane and Lieberman etc and that's fine. But you really are too far gone when you find no saving grace in the millions of Israelis who do want peace. So essentially, you rant. Just re-read your last response. You need to open your mind. Probably not possible. But your bitterness is palpable and your agrguments remain loud, vindictive and full of invective. There's no solution in any of that; just the temporary self-righteousness of your own outrage.

Norway's intervention in international disputes has often resulted in an end to hostilities. Peace is raising its hideous head again. Do something.

Lol. I was thinking of sarcastically suggesting this action was evidence of 'Norwegian anti-semitism.' Seemed a tad heavy-handed, though. Truth is stranger than fiction. Never underestimate the ability of Israel's supporters to delude themselves.

No more than 2 percent of Norwegians were ever members of Nasjonal Samling, and that included many who were collectively enrolled by the Nazi occupiers (e.g. police). Look it up. Otherwise I agree: it is absurd how the rubes on here are blaming Norway for being occupied by Germany while cheerleading the equally brutal ongoing occupation of another people. But from those who have only hate and bitterness in their hearts, nothing better is to be expected.

I know you are prone to propaganda but please at least feign a semblance of accuracy. I said nothing about "Jews". I was talking about the dead one, Kahane-Meir Kahane. Thats who I was talking about, not Jews.

....means, that the Norwegians will be able to persuade Hamas to accept Israels right of existance. Will we then hear a (shy) "slicha" going from flashman to Oslo...??

there is no oil to drill in Gaza !

U re Right! and here in Europe the all inhabitant are behind the Palestinians will to be FREE and INDEPENDANT!! but some stupid politicians live still now with the feeling of culpability of the WWII!!! that s why there is no pression on Israel and that s why there ll be no PEACE in Middle East! We cant demand to a population to accept to live under an occupation!!! the boycott should be made on Israel by UE! but i keep optimistic! the minds are changing for 2 or 3 years!!

"To jaw-jaw is always better than to war-war" Winston Churchill. Isn't it ironic that George Bush claims Churchill is his hero and role model? It is illegal for Americans to make a financial contribution to the PA. That is the quality of George Bushes compasionate conservatism.

Those not familiar with the unwritten talkback rules, here and anywhere in cyberspace, posting in CAPTIAL means SHOUTING! It`s useful for highlighting keywords in your response. CAPITALS can also be applied to an entire text if you are convinced that everyone else around you is DEAF, or, as far more often being practized, if you are a DEAF person yourself.

The good ole days, of no longer having someone you can soulfully collaborate with, right, semsem. Better be careful when you talk about the quislings. As for Norway, Winston Churchill when referring to their resistance against the Nazis said, in encouraging the rest of Europe: "Look toward Norway". Also the first country in Eruope whose labour unions called for a boycott of produce produced in the occupied territories. Ah, for the days of your aparthied friends, semsem, it must be hard for you.

comparing jews to the german dictator.

It is kahane and his followers, it is the likes of avigdor lieberman and the national union party. They do not want peace and they have a very specific meaning of the phrase "Am Israel Chai" and it has nothing to do with the efforts of the Jewish People to live in a state along side a Palestinians one. It has quite another meaning altogether and one that cannot be countenanced or made to seem as if it was the sincere phraose of a man with a burning love for Israel. Many Germans said the same thing about Hitler and his boundless love for the German people.

If the IDF wanted to destroy Gaza they could in a minute, but they don't and they haven't. You forget to mention the overall restraint. I do however see daily rockets screaming over the border targeting civilians in Israel though. It is telling that you use the word "zionist." Why not call them Jews or Israelis? I believe that you share the ARAB VIEW that Israel has no right to exist. Correct me if I am wrong. Back to the topic: How do you feel about Norway breaking ranks with other western countries?

There's more blarney and bombast in your angry statememnt about Barak/Clinton than there is reality and truth. Of course it was concessionary. The land did not belong to Palestinian Arabs when Egypt and Jordan lost their respective control of Gaza and the West Bank. Thus Israel's willingness to give so much of it back to the Palestinians was a huge concession. As was the enormous concession offered of complete control of the Temple Mount. For very word of Ben Ami there are hundreds of words that contradict him all over the Arab world; not the least of which was the outrage expressed at Arafat by King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia for his stupid refusal to take the deal. They don't want the deal, Irish, they want dead Jews. Wake up.

EU has free immigration policy only for EU members. That is why poor North African Muslims have to cross into Europe by boats.

There's more blarney and bombast in your angry statememnt about Barak/Clinton than there is reality and truth. Of course it was concessionary. The land did not belong to Palestinian Arabs when Egypt and Jordan lost their respective control of Gaza and the West Bank. Thus Israel's willingness to give so much of it back to the Palestinians was a huge concession. As was the enormous concession offered of complete control of the Temple Mount. For very word of Ben Ami there are hundreds of words that contradict him all over the Arab world; not the least of which was the outrage expressed at Arafat by King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia for his stupid refusal to take the deal. They don't want the deal, Irish, they want dead Jews. Wake up.

Jason in Aspen, you think you know something about Palestinians but you have been misinformed. Palestinians are about the best educated people in all the Arab World. They are qualified in many professions and would make a positive impact on Norwegian society. It is the 40-year-old occupation of the West Bank, which includes East Jerusalem, that is responsible for resistance attacks on the rare occasions that they take place at all. Jason, you have a lot to learn and the best time to start is NOW.

last Saturday I visited a Christians for Israel-day in the biggest theatre in Rotterdam. Theme: Jerusalem, 40-years one! The hall was filled with thausands of enthousiastic Christians who expressed their love for Israel. Shimon Erem a pensionned general who has fought under Ben Gurion and Moshe Dajan told his story an there was one conclusion: Arabs glorify death and Jews love life and I (70 years) fully agree with him. We pray for the peace of Jerusalem and that just leaders will arise amongst the Pals. Leaders who are for the benefit of their civilians.

Thank God for Norway. The most progressive and prosperous nation in the world. They can not be bought or coerced into submition by the international zionism. Even the American people are finally waking up . The jews had better get out of the Palestinian territories soon and make peace with justice . The holocaust propaganda will not hold water anymore as an excuse to commit criminal acts on the Palestinians.

thanks for the post we NEED to hear from you keep posting

I know, paul, you long for the good old days when Israel's best friend was the former South Africa. Then it lost all those armament contracts and things started to change. Ah, for the good old days of shared values of apartheid!

God bless you and your family. I hope your children will see peace someday soon.

I hope you are correct! Any links to the photos of the pro-Israeli rallies?

You mean the dead petty little racist rabble rouser was "disagreeable"? Oh, I would go beyond that descripotion. He was a petty little racist rabble rouser who loved to incite and spew out his racist venom along with his son and their street boys, he engendered. Brooklyn crawls with the same gangs of hateful racists who look upon him as their prophet of racial war and mass deportation. He lived as he died and he got what he preached. He is dead and along with Baruch Goldstein ironically find themselves in the eternal company of Hitler.

Typical that the Norwegian Quislings meet the enemies of the Jews.

Dear Tim Please, bless us with some of your wisdom and brilliance. What is a Zionist? Thanks.

Man, you have got to do better than your graphic reference to Kahane and his son's graves. I actually found Kahane distasteful too, but Am Israel Chai, which you well know is translated either as Long Live Israel or the People of Israel Lives, is quite a nice and harmless motto that was used well before and long since Kahane. I actually thought you knew more than that. I am one who believes that Israel should continue to live long and propser. I believe Israel will do that in peace with its neighbors once those neighbors swear off destroying it. Why you would want to continue aiding and abetting the destruction of a country and people with a remarbly long and wonderful history once again goes to prove that you have no room in your heart and very little space left in your doctrinaire heart for all the people of Israel who do want peace and coexistence.

WHO PRACTICE APARTHEID AGAINST WOMEN AND DHIMMIS . IM FED UP WITH TEN YEARS OF YOUR ABSOLUTE UTTER ANTI SEMITIC ANTI ISRAEL RUBBISH AND STUPIDITY ADDED TO HYPOCRISY

MORE DRIVEL FROM THE QUEEN OF DRIVEL!!! REMEMBER THE OLD ADAGE " NEVER START A FIGHT YOURE NOT SURE OF WINNING" THE ARABS NEVER LEARNT THAT ONE AND HAVE BEEN TAKING IT ON THE CHIN SINCE 1920!! THEY STIIL DONT LEARN AND WHEN IT HAPPENS AS ITS SURE TO HAPPEN THEY WILL CRY THEIR FALSE TEARS TO THE WORLD !! JUST LIKE HIZBOLLAH !! CRY FOR MUSLIM WOMEN WHO HAVE NO RIGHTS AND NO FREEDOM 500 MILLION OF THEM !!

How dare you allege that Norway is a anit- semitist country? True, we have a cruel and bloody history, from the vikings to the second world war where about 10% of our population was a member of NS, the ruling nazi party 1940- 1945. But we dealt with that and execute 29 of its leaders. Norway executed more traitors then any other country after ww2 compared with our small population. And even though we have our dark part of history we see our self as a peace loving country. This aside, the accusation against our middle- east politics is way out of proposition. When you make this discussion so black & white, when all solutions is absolute, then you (or so I believe) do not have a desire of peace. You claim your right over some area that is historical yours, well,that is your right, but that will not help establish pace in the region. You need to make compromises that you will feel hurtful, but without this we can never have peace. With regards Tor Bjarne

Sami's recommendation that Hamas acquire nuclear weapons should be viewed as a harbinger of possible things to come instead of being dismissed as crazy. His comment is not just "negative"; it is a reflection of the growing frustration felt by the Palestinians. There are Palestinian and Muslim elements that would be willing to suffer the inevitable Israeli nuclear reaction should Israel be attacked thus. Suffering great losses in order to destroy the Zionist state is a price that some would be willing to pay. There is a real danger that this could occur. It is this danger that should be considered by Israel when determining the future course of its relationship with Palestinians and the Arab/Muslim world in general. Dismissing this danger is Pollyannaish.

The passport staff were taking a break - that's how it works in Levantine countries. I didn't have the same experience when I entered Morocco with my Israeli passport, but did when I entered Egypt. The point is that we didn't cry RACIST at having been kept waiting!

Wasn't Norway also the first occupied by nazi country that started to collaborate with them? High prices on oil made Norway self-righteous fatso: what people are fighting for if we have everything?

Josef, you got to take your words back and apologize to Norwegians for your poor perspective of history. know why? you said 'during WW II, norwegian people collaborated with nazis'. thats fine!. thats during the bygone days of WW II. So why Israel is singing praises of Germany these days?. How all the mistrust with Germans evoporated. Can you say the same to Germany now as you said with Norway. Its Germans who collaborated with Nazis and killed millions of jews during the same WW II period and you must be well aware of that right?

Again, Israel is a victim, it is not the avant-garde, but driven by stronger forces. A pity, that it does not have a strong gouvernement. Sharon was strong, somehow. A strong gouvernement would be right-wing now and probably have to act against the will of its voters. Selavi.........

Well done Norway I hope the EU follows suit

it means we are less feckless then you.you tried to take ulster and they whacked you. you of course tried to steal the land by killing thousands of civilians.

talks broke down over the return of the refugees.

No one is starving in Gaza. Actually, there are many large people in the PAL areas. Can you prove otherwise? At least show me a link to a photo gallery. Ending the boycott puts cold hard cash into Hamas's dirty, bloody hands. I cannot support that in good conscience. Do your homework Sharonelle. Unsubstantiated claims of forced starvation sounds like anti-semitism.

anti-Semite and proud of it. Don't cheapen anti-Semitism by lumping it with opposition to Jewish fascism.

"It`s always amusing to see people trying to equate Norway with murder." For people who makes Seal clubbing an anual sport I suppose it's amusing!

TRY IT ON THE IRAQIS THIS TIME

without doubt the most disagreeable man on the haaretz site.

Norway rushed to Gaza city,just to show how anti Israel they are. Now we have the squarking parrots crying out about the fact that the Palestinians are starving to death,I have yet to see a under nurished Palestinian. Go and tell the palestinians they are starving to death,they will laugh in your squarking faces.

"Dogs bark but the Elephant keeps moving". Go ahead Norway!

sound like what the Pals have to go through day in and day out. Horrible isn't it? Perhaps you can now emphasize with the complaints of the Pals. Regards.

the suffering of the Pals at the hands of the zionists from your perch in Colorado. All the horrors you lay out re Israelis are also suffered by the Pals, let's not forget that 2,000 lb bomb on a Pal apt. Have the Pals done anything to top that I wonder? No, I don't think so.

Best cuisine in the world-Morrocan. When I visit Israel, after the two state solution is implemented I look forward to chicken with cracked olives and those small lemons. Is there a tunnel at the Horns of Hittin in the north of the country? If there is then the Jewish kids in class can learn about the Muslims who lived in the country and defeated the Crusaders there. I have not been to Morrocco but I bet the request for bakshish was not racist but pretty standard. You wife being Morroccan was looked upon as a Middle Easterner in a way you are not. Whenever I'm in Paris I seek out the good couscous places. There's a wonderful plavce you and your wife might enjoy in Paris called Le Souk, great couscous and tangines..

So you think that the Clinton/Barak deal was an Israeli concession. If a bank robber agrees to return stolen property is that considered "Consessionary". Israel does not have the right to "Give back "something that is not theirs to begin with.Ever heard of the ICJ and the Geneva Convention,not to mention the UN . You probably also believe that it was the Palestinians who walked away from those talks.Wrong again. It was Barak, due to pressure at home because the very myth "we went further than any PM ever went" was biting him in the ass at home and with two weeks to go before the election he called off the talks. Source. see scars of war wounds of peace. Schlomo Ben Ami. Have a nice day .

Thank you Norway for breaking the impasse. I am fed up of the one sided demands. Israel needs to give up its own tribal ideology and get with it. This is the global age not the stone age. Fed up! Dutch

Dear friend, Read the history of WW II, study the collaboration of majority of norwegian people with nazis. What happened with all jews of Norway and you will understand more the mistrust, israelis have towards the norwegian policy. Leftist government is really more pro-arab. Change of government will change this unbalanced policy.

It's always amusing to see people trying to equate Norway with murder.

don't you say so PAUL HARRIS?

So you call your occupation of aborigines? land benign or occupied people friendly? I wonder how come that under your occupation the only places where aborigines? population grows steadily are jails? In Israel meanwhile Arab population grows and so it does in the territories. Besides, cruel Israeli government did not forcibly take Arab children from their parents. Why did not you try to free East Timorese when they where occupied by Dutch or Portuguese?

They did not have to,as they knew you would.

A missile a day keeps the food away,an apt statement as far as the palestinians are concerned,they prefer to fill their bunkers with arms instead of feeding themselves. Not exactly,the palestinians are not starving as the europeans and UN are supplying everything they need. In the Arab world,there is no one starving.

why not indeed?

more is the pity.

You state that Norway should have an open immigration policy. As a member of the EU it already does and most assuredly far more open than that of your country of First Choice albeit you apparently do not choose to live there.Disengenuous???.

"why do you not help the nation of mali which is far poorer then the palestinians?why the refusal to help other poverty stricken nations in the middle east.why the palestinians in exclusion to all else?"

they more then make up for any alleged shortcomings on israel's part. in fact israel has been giving large sums to africa.this aid was started by golda meir in the 1960s. the american funds to isreal are mainly military and the total figure is just over $3bn and not the figure you quote. it is thought probable that israel will give up the civilian aid this year or next.

"Hamas claims responsibility for shooting Israeli near Karni" Thanks Norway, thanks Europe/Eurabia....you have shown again what you have been always thinking...

saudi arabia came to its senses that israel was right after all.