Israel: UN Human Rights Council 'morally bankrupt'

The UN is run by Islamofascists (NAZIS) who have learned well that the BIG LIE is a powerful weapon. All you have to do is accuse your enemy of doing what you do. The bigger the lie the better. Israel and the Jews are a light unto the nations and for this they are hated, especially by the Moslems.

You've had enough time to recover from reading the facts--It's about time apologized for your attempted deception-- "Here it is again, please pay attention: "Koren said the incident began while the arrests were taking place. ?He said a group of young men, aged between 17 and 24, began firing shots at police and hurled stun and tear gas grenades?."

I had emphasized the following to draw your attention to it- Your eyeballs have skipped over the pertinent fact, the police were under direct fire--It seems you skipped over the specifics and were very selective, to the exclusion of the facts, when you wrote your post--My #157 in this string highlights the facts, try reading slowly-- Here it is again, please pay attention: "Koren said the incident began while the arrests were taking place. ?He said a group of young men, aged between 17 and 24, began firing shots at police and hurled stun and tear gas grenades?."

you must be a real bone-head not to understand my replies to you! I give you a one more go: *if Israelis demolish a house in whose basement there is the mouth of the tunnel, through which the liberated prisoners from Israeli jails, smuggle in weapons from Egypt, Israel is NOT violating any human right. *if Israel is cutting off electricity in Gaza, because the Gazans are firing rockets to Sderot and endangering the lives of its inhabitants, Israel is NOT violating any human right. *if Israel is dragging her feet at checkpoints, because the soldiers have found explosives in the school-bag of a small 8 year old boy, next to his spider-man-doll, or they've found a bomb in an ambulance, under the stretches on which a pregnant Pal-woman in labour is lieing, Israel is NOT violating any human right. Always ask: what have the Pals done that Israel is doing these things to them. Israel is acting out of self-protection NOT to violate human rights of the evil-doers.

UN Watch is affiliated with the American Jewish Committee (AJC). And we know what the Israel Lobby is about. Rightfully dismissed -- the UN is not a soap box location.

Very good post. JJ

...but talk about the pot calling the kettle black... but thanks for the laugh.

I find your response quite interesting. You completely avoided responding to what I said, and instead generated a straw man about turning the other cheek. I asked (and you avoided answering) if the charges were accurate and substantiated. Why not speak to that, instead of changing the subject to what other nations do? One is responsible for ones own crimes, and what anyone else does does not excuse them.

I've also posted this in another string--Just putting it out twice so you don't miss it-- http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/918498.html PEKI?IN CLASH This is why you can?t be believed or trusted Linthwaite ? I?m enclosing the link to the story?Please review it, in it?s entirety, and show me the part where the Officers defied orders not to open fire?You have a great imagination, once again you?ve proven you like to write, distorting the actual events to suit your purposes?For lack of space, I didn?t post the complete story, gave you the link instead?Now go ahead and show me what you claimed happened?I have emphasized some of the essentials to facilitate your reading what really happened-- ?Some 27 police officers were among the wounded. Police and the Magen David Adom emergency service said that one civilian and one policemen sustained serious injuries in the clashes. Three of the civilians were wounded by live police ammunition. Police defended opening fire on the residents, saying they did so only in self-defense. Koren confirmed that the police used live ammunition in the town, arguing that the officers had found themselves in a ?life-threatening situation?. The clashes broke out early in the morning when a police force entered the village to arrest a number of locals suspected of torching the antenna two days ago--. Linthwaite ? pay particular attention to the following paragraph, where a group of your men open fire?Now if that?s not a danger to the police, just what would you like to call it..?? Koren said the incident began while the arrests were taking place. ?He said a group of young men, aged between 17 and 24, began firing shots at police and hurled stun and tear gas grenades?. Koren also said that police officers were attacked by masked men, and that talks were underway with the Druze community leaders in order to avoid any further clashes._

I find the whole situation so sad. What was done to us jews in WWII was inexcusible however, I thought we would have learnt from that but alas no!

What a cheap shot opening from fanatic leftist idealogue. Trying to use an isloamofascist abduction to criticize democratic Israel. No integrity at all.

I read the JP-article on Ha'aretz and the feedback letters in their talkback. A casual Ha'aretz reader may easily find especially the Talkback-articles here offensive to their Jewish and Israeli sensitivities. So did I in the beginning....especially the publication of the most vile anti Jewish/Israeli letters. Having visited Ha'aretz nearly every day over a year, I now know to skip those letters, which are published here by the regular-anti-Jews/Israeli-posters. That the Ha'retz publishes them, no longer disturbs my peace of mind, because I've accepted the fact that indeed there are people, who see us differently and they are free people, who ALSO have a right to their opinions. Ha'aretz has made me a more tolerant person and wider in my viewpoints, for which I can only thank Haaretz. The concept "freedom of speech" finds its fullest expression in Ha'aretz, which makes it an exceptional newspaper; simply THE BEST! Keep up the good work Ha'aretz! Loyally yours, Alicia.

Results in both cheeks getting slapped--

When a policemans life is threatened, all standing orders are shunted aside--As for calling HaAretz a liar, they are quite frequently called to task for lousy reportage-- You have to understand, that with the likes of Amira Haas, they have an extreme leftwing view and slant on what they print--

critisize ONLY Israel When she is a real SMALL potato in the huge bag.

"for all the Jew haters on this talkback, I recommend reading an opinion piece in today`s Jerusalem Post"

I am so dissappointed with our current political representatives, both parties, I am affraid we are heading for disaster. People like Mr. Bolton are pushed out by Democrats because he is a very pro-American represetative and the Republicans don't do anything! The liberals have been successful in keping out very good people working for a better America.

salary is over $200,000 per year. Your only chance of getting a job there is if you are WELL connected to the corrupt leadership made up of criminals rivaling the Mafia. Your mental capacity is irrelevant to the position you occupy. Your loyalty and gangster background is the standard.

Have you ever found an Arab guilty of murdering a Jew? Or has there always been a perfectly good reason to blow up a pizzeria at the height of lunch hour?

And has been hemming and hawing for the past 3 years on Haaretz without ever getting the big clue that if you want to achieve peace, then you've got to stop stooping to the point of shooting missiles into Israel propper; supporting said missiles being shot into Israel; and maybe, possibly, getting a life by leaving your basement and actually entering the world that is, according to the Clitty, controled by the Joooos. You're nothing by a Fool, dude, with stupid, insipid, and vapid thoughts on what it's going to take to achieve peace in the Middle East. Hint: It won't happen by killing the Joooos, never mind what your constant dead Jew boner tells you.

Again..Isrealis dont get it. It is admirable you defend yourselfs, yet you deny you have INVADED other countries three times, 1948,1956,1967. And you wonder why your neighbors build up arms to oppose you? Someone needs to slap you out of your hedonistic sleep. Its not rascism, its reality. Id rather visit Libya than Isreal.

It might help if you recognized the State of Israel and stopped your silly war against history, logic, the West, and the past.

instead of asking them to elevate their moral standards to match with those of the rest of the civilized world's and educating them, so that we would get along! From your "black and white"-outlook on life, you just don't get it, do you realism? Needless to argue any further. Period.

I find it amusing that you (like so many of the other respondents on this issue) go on and on about how many crimes others commit and what horrible people the Bad Guys are. Somehow you never have time to get around to what I consider a critical issue: whether the charges are accurate. Could that be taken as an admission of guilt?

Now that you have given your usual insulting response, why not speak to the substance of what I said? Or is it that you can't?

I'm sure that Adolf would have opposed the UNHRC. He considered Jews (and others!) 'sub-human', but his outrageous views are still shared by many, and we have to fight those opinions -- not by 'joining the enemy' for revenge but by joining the righteous (like the UNHRC despite its shortcomings).

THIRDly, let me give you another example of the Arab mind and logic. This theft, committed also by an Arab, took place in Europe, my present country. An Arab stole a bike from a native, who also saw the theft. He acc. to his culture and upbringing. He patiently followed the Arab to his home. Knowing, where the Arab lived, he called the Police, who arrived with a Red Cross rep. to the scene. Since he was the only Arab living in the house, he was is to be traced. He too denied the theft at first, but the ID of the rightful owner was etched in the bike, which is a habit here. The Arab explained again that since in his Arab-culture "successfully stolen item" can be kept, he refused to give back the bike. The compromise: the Red Cross rep. offered to buy any bike the rightful owner wanted, if he gave up. He did and is now a happy owner of a mountain bike with 10 gears. NO hum.right violation here. Preferable thus realism???

I am disgusted by the story. To find a paper I admire hushed up scandal to promote its own political agenda floors me. Particularly when caught in blatant lies and refusing to make corrections. Shame on Haaretz.

SECONDly, in order to understand Israel, we MUST see the background reality, where she functions. Let me give you an example from this reality: an Arab stole a white European's wallet. The European ran after him and caught the Arab. Being a European, he acts like one acc. to his culture and upbringing. He 1)ASKS the Arab to kindly return the wallet to him. The Arab refuses. The European 2)calls the Police. The Arab explains to the policeman, that the wallet belongs to him and this white European is trying to steal it from him! BUT since there are documents like a driving license and a VISA-card in the wallet, which prove that the Eu:pen is the rightful owner of the wallet, the Arab explains that "acc. to his Arab-culture", in a "successfully committed theft" the thief may keep what he has succeeded in stealing"! "Tearing" the wallet "with force" from the Arab, undeniably is a hum. right violation!

FIRSTly I want to say that it is impartiality and objectivity in judgement, which I expect to see in the HRC's actions. If you have five children, who all are rascals, you do not pull aside only one child and blow his deeds out of proportion pointing a condemning finger at that one child, while looking through fingers the deeds of all the other four children and let them go unreproached! It is evident that such a parent hates this one child and therefore acts out of one's blind hatred to the child.

For all those who are criticising Haaretz for running this story and for all the Jew haters on this talkback, I recommend reading an opinion piece in today's Jerusalem Post, which I consider the closest English language newspaper in Israel to approach the NY Times. Most revealing about the editor of Haaretz. For a completely different focus than Haaretz read, Arutz Sheva. a totall right wing publication JPost is middle of the road (

Angela Merkel got the Leo Beck price and Wolf Biermann delivered a speech. It should be printed here and discussed. IMHO he was partially right, but the speech contained also a lot of nonsense.

You're obviously the same person writing all 3. Is that what makes your views correct rather than containing facts?

There is no doubt that Israel is a outdated relic of colonialism and racism. This is possible because of US funds,weapons and propoganda. Israel will sing a different tune when American cash dries up.

If I am wrong I stand corrected. Are you implying there are no restrictions on the Israeli police using live ammunition? Haaretz reported that during the recent problems with the indigenous Druze population Israeli police opened fire against standing orders. Are you calling Haaretz a liar?

Israel talking of moral bankrupcy??? That really made laugh !!

i doubt whether you can make yourself a cup of real coffee? try applying your theories to the other 99.99% of this world !

plenty of $$ from Saudi Arabia (no one else was interested), whose King was received this week in the Vatican. Upon his death (the King)would probably be considered for sainthood by the Pope. That's the world we live in......!

Same caliber as the notorious LEAGUE of NATIONS, Worthless. It's no morally bankrupt---it's totally bankrupt.The caliber of their members is such,they would have condemned the Czech for provoking the Nazis in eradicating the town of Ledice from the map(sounds familiar?);and Air France for irritating Idi Amin(the butcher)causing him to feed the "white trash"to crocodiles;and of course Israel,for not letting herself anihilated by the hordes of ALLAH'S WARRIORS (thanks CNN. For the council it's probably normal. Must have attended the same "school of fools". They all get the same "extra" allowance from their masters. "LA Belle Vie" in la belle Suisse is a far cry from the slums of their country of origin. I will not bore you with the Resolutions? regarding the Sudan in Dalfour, or Mugabe in Zimbabwee, or the killing-maiming-stoning in the venerable world of Islam, or China in Tibet;or, or, or,...PS: Idi Amin (may he rest in peace in the Devil's domain) received full protection--villa,guard

Typical. Israel has thousands of people in jail for indefinite periods of time without charges or trial (administrative restraint), but you howl when Israel is not tried before an independent body. What's wrong with treating Israel with the standards it uses itself?

"he recently boasted having written 30,000 anti-Israel talkbacks!" Exactly the opposite is true. A Zionist just like you made this claim. My reply was that I had left this total of messages over a 5-year period on the US Motley Fool board, that only a small percentage were about Israel (the others were about everything from favourite films to the weather in England) and NONE were about "Jews". And you seem to think that I care whether whether you or any other Zionist replies to my messages on Talkback. I don't. You can cower in a corner, avoiding my messages as much as you like, and it won't make a happorth of difference to my frequency of posting or the nature of my messages.

a Zionist of a different kind. Please read: "Einstein's Letter Warning of Zionist Fascism in Israel." (Letter to New York Times 1948) http"//www.rense.com/general59/ein.htm "Letters to New York Times 4 December 1948" http://www.physics.harvard.edu/~wilson/NYTimes1948.html Please note the titles state 'Albert Einstein's letter,' but in fact many others (Jews) also signed the said letter.)

Don't give selfdeclared Jew-haters like Clickfool a stage by answering his/their sick posts(he recently boasted having written 30,000 anti-Israel talkbacks). You can't change his/their distorted worldview, so why bother. They thrive on publication - if they won't get published they will choke on their own venom.

Writes Indrajaya: "If the UN Human Right Council is morally bunkrupt only because it critisizing Israel, what about Israel who is stealing people lands, killing people, women, children with impunity? Can Anybody find an exact word in any human language to describe that?" Yes,indeed. It is called mindless,pointless,lame PROPAGANDA!!!! Grow up and make a contribution, instead of firing off the same,boring party line comments.

"Murdering innocent civilians is a Palestinian specialty"

Council is morally bankrupt? Of course it is and has been, in its previous form and in its present form. What is sad, member state of the UN have not mastered the ability to put an end to this Council all together. Yes, this is the UN for which few of us in Israel have any respect; an organization that has done nothing positive for Israel since 29 November 1947, nothing!!!

which crimes has israel been convicted of boris? those accusations are just thta they are not crimes until tried BY AN INDEPENDENT BODY ! the un fails time and time again on that premise !

this demagogic hypocrit face reminds me of israeli authrocitis in the last summer war. he was defending killing civilians and bombarding civilian infra-structure, and now he is talking about morality!

1000 palestinian children killed by israel. 1000 lebanese children killed by israel. and that was just in the last year or so. should not this be in the guiness book of records for moral behaviour?

If the UN Human Right Council is morally bunkrupt only because it critisizing Israel, what about Israel who is stealing people lands, killing people, women, children with impunity? Can Anybody find an exact word in any human language to describe that?

have you realized how often israelis use the word "moral" to intimidate others? much like a whore who lectures about chestity.

to the staff of talkback hiel hitler in your atempt to keep talkback clean of all truth. print all the wacko anti israel comments but if its heartfelt put down of whats really happening here keep it out! doesnt fit the agenda gobbles would be proud! youre not defending jews but hurting them zionism will fall the jews will be free youll lose your jobs and money you make on the back of our people! and prehaps get the reward you deserve

U r morally bankrupt . u come here talk on any subject u care to. U twist and turn so long as u can make israel blameworthy. With such a sense of morality , what do u know about the subject? Ans: ZILCH

Just to denounce the situation in order to have something to say is empty and adolescent. If anyone actually reads these talkbacks it should be a lesson to Haaretz to do its reporting more responsibly. If your intention was to stir up sinat hinam of Israel, well, you managed it.

Dont respond substantively to nuts , irresponsible ideologues or Jew haters.

The UN Human Rights Council Banned this Speech. You have to see it to believe it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhWgZu6tcZU&eurl=http://www.hsje.org/homepage.htm

I: "If the media will hear it long enough the name will stick. Bingo problem solved." Here's another thought, Ismail; why doesn't Israel solve this problem by stopping its abuse of other people's human rights? Then Israel can stand up in this forum and face down it's accusers with a simple truth: "Violate human rights? No, we don't violate human rights" Bingo problem solved. But while it is reduced to this sort of pathetic plea: "Violate human rights? Why don't you pick on other nations who violate human rights?" Big problem, Ismail, that no amount of Israeli bleating can make go away.

The UNHRC is run by some of the most ghastly regimes in the world.Unfortunately many of these are Arab countries.Countries which stone people,behead them,chop off limbs,use car batteries on genitals and are heavily into abuse.They are undemocratic,unfair to women and the handicapped,are more than just "disadvantaged".Trade unions hardly exist,opposition parties live in fear,courts are unfair and apartheid policies based on clan,race and religion are rampant.For a primate from Sussex this must seem like a great breeding ground for UNHRC employees.Some UNHRC supporters are helpless hypocrates and perhaps just dislike jews.

Dan Gillerman: There are lots of nations in the world who violate Human Rights!! So many that I can not begin to count them all!! Oh, the inhumanity!! Oh, the evilness that is all around me!! Oh, woe is me!! Dan Gillerman: The UN Human Rights Council is morally bankrupt because it picks on Israel without picking on anyone else! Hmmmm, does anyone notice that there is something that Dan Gillerman *ISN'T* saying? Something that Dan Gillerman *ISN'T* denying? Dan Gillerman isn't saying: You can't pick on Israel because Israel doesn't violate anyone's Human Rights! Dan Gillerman isn't denying: That Israel violates the Human Rights of other people. It's almost as if he can't claim Israel is innocent, because such claims would be false. Surely not!!! Excuse me, Dan, for being unimpressed by a plea like this one: You guys are making us nervous, so go look under some other rocks, will ya, coz can't you can see we are busy abusing people here!!

Asa I read your post, you seem to be saying that because other people violate human rights, Israel is allowed to do so. It is interesting that you seen to agree that in fact the charges are valid.

They withdrew ALL their special rappoteurs from Zimbabwe among others. Those people were investigating human rights violations. Yeah, the UNHRC is one big joke to everyone but the dictators and theocracies. They are the members of the council. UNwatch.org

This is Israel ducking and weaving again. It is a multiple and systematic abuser of the Universal Declaration of Human rights, a document born of the Holocaust. It has violated international norms on basic human rights for over 40 years. This is almost unprecedented. The UN Human rights council would be failing in its statutory duty if it had not put Israel on permanent watch.

One morally bankrupt organization proping up a morally bankrupt society. At least its logical. Move the UN to Saudi Arabia where it belongs. No more 'Happy Hours' will end the UN's existence in one month. Living and working in an Arab society will convince at least the non-Muslim nations to see Israel in a totally different light. In New York, they have it too good.

for use of grass cant work children suffering state wouldnt help cause wifes learning theres no understanding of human rights here only abuse of whoevers weak its a society that mocks the 'frier' a person stupid enough to be nice;the holocoust is a card to be played when it was jewish\zionist indeference/compliance that helped that one along in the first place. its true that in other places the violations are worse ,theres no mesurment for suffering- but its only right israel should be held to a higher standard thats what the bible is all about.pointing the finger at others refects the siege mentality so pevailent here;the moral blindness;the self rightesness;the lack of empacy and the terrible hipocracy where coruption 'protecia' is only natural; completely accepted/ its a 1930's mentality- might makes right the worlds against us our use of force justifiable.anyone saying these things a antisemite ignored ousted friendless;a brutal society is not the hebrew dream and its within us.

The Human Rights Council was established because whenever the UN had cause to criticize Israel, America would always veto the resolution. This was extremely unfair and one-sided, and the nations of the world simply got tired of the farce. If the Council seems to focus upon Israel, it should come as no surprise. It is quite appropriate. Geillermans whining is music to my ears.

What is the relevancy to this topic? You seem to know a lot about wife beating, just wondering, nothing personal.

will say that it is because the ground is crooked. This is a perfect application for this proverb!! It's not because Israel has an atrocious human rights record. Just look at its treatment of palestinians as sub-humans, even Israeli arabs are second class citizens. But it is rather because the world hate Israel and in particualr jews !! WAKE UP to the reality and smell the coffee, you will not be able to continue being un-humans for ever. Evil will be defeated.

The UN under Ban is working well for all organizations except for one the HRC. The solution is not in trying to convert the HRC as Gillerman is trying to do or Israel for that matter for the last 30 years. If the Israelis have less ego and more diplomatic brains they will embark on a campaign for free countries beginning with the US to leave the HRC, and declare it fraudulent, illegitimate, and convince the media to change the name of this ORg. the new name " Center for indoctrination of Arab/Islamic people in to Islamophobia". If the media will hear it long enough the name will stick. Bingo problem solved. You don't change countries, you change the name of the entity.

Jerusalem is not 'Israel'.

Do you know which countries make up the UNHRC?

It is alone together with the US (for the time being), really. Not even an IDF plant can change that depressing fact.

Zimbabwe, N Korea, just to name a few. Bastions of human rights are they not. UNwatch.org. Learn something about the UNHRC, find out what Canada thinks of their shady tricks.

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Israel boycotts the UN for many years. Maybe others try to restore a balance (tit-for-tat).

(Haaretz) news. This is why they starve and live in squalors in Gaza. Humanitarian crisis? Is UNHRC going to criticize Hamas on its priorities?

It's the Israelis who are morally banlkrupt violating the Palestinian people their human rights & occupying their land in violation of international law. Then people like Dan Gillerman has the audacity to blame the Human Rights Council itself and other countries. He has no shame. I believe the Human Rights Council should suspend Israel until it cleans up its act. People at the Boston Conference last week said they are not accepting Israel' s human rights violation anymore and intend to tie them to witholding military aid. Dutch

Today many wolves dress up as sheep for 'fur-coat reasons'. Typically not-so-smart culprits fight justice instead of joining the righteous.

You had made a specific statement about the IDF restrictions on using live ammo--Despite 6 requests, you have, as yet, failed to respond to my query, concerning where the restrictions exist and which page they're on--Here it is again, and I'll keep re-posting it ad nauseum, until you come up with the answers-- "Linthwaite - did u get lost THIRD REQUEST Name: * BEN JABO City: USA State: I am still waiting for you to specify which page and paragraph restricted & stipulated the circumstances that the Police were allowed to open fire with live ammo--You made a statement, pulled out of thin air--Prove it!!

"What would the UNHRC do if Iran nuked Tel Aviv" - Given that the only independent international body on nuclear technology, the IAEA, has concluded that Iran has no nuclear weapons or evidence of acquiring nuclear weapons than such a hypothesis is absurd at best. "NADA" -The purpose of this body is to document HR abuses. It has no military powers. "We know we cant count on you" - You do realise that the West are largely responsible for the very existence of the state of Israel. Balfour Declaration? UN Resolution on the partition?

And the Pentagon is not run by gangsters? I'm well aware of how morally bankrupt the UN and most European nations are, but then so are other nations not part of the EU. Perhaps we need to look no further than our own back yards before passing judgement. My personal opinion of the UN is they should had dismantled itself a whole long time ago. Why they're still operating is beyond my way of thinking. Quite frankly, its not just Israel that's sick and tired of them.

"All that you write in your post is basically not true" - Tell me what is not true about it! What I wrote in my post are undisputable facts and you know this! If I am not speaking the truth than challenge my arguments rather than call me "evil" - the very fact that you have no effective counter-argument says it all. "Dont you get tired of yourself?" - No. Im quite happy I am equipped with enough mental capability to debate this issue without degenerating it to "the difference between good and evil". This is not Star Wars!

The issue of little Aviv IS a human rights issue no matter which way you want to look at it.

Israel isn't the only party the IslamoFacists are attacking on a daily basis--Here's a week covering a weeks activity of their worldwide terrorism--Just ask, I'll gladly give you the actual sources--"Weekly Jihad Report Oct. 27 - Nov. 02 Jihad Attacks: 46 Dead Bodies: 210 Critically Injured: 332 Monthly Jihad Report October 2007 Jihad Attacks: 242 Countries: 19 Religions: 5 Dead Bodies: 1252 Critically Injured: 2287

It helps to cover up such a huge human catastrophe when a country has support from 21 other countries that speak the same language and another 40 that share the same religion of death mentality. This is very moral indeed!

The horrendous amount of killing and maimings being perpetrated by your Islamo/Facists--A World Wide horror against the innocent-- Weekly Jihad Report Oct. 27 - Nov. 02 Jihad Attacks: 46 Dead Bodies: 210 Critically Injured: 332 Monthly Jihad Report October 2007 Jihad Attacks: 242 Countries: 19 Religions: 5 Dead Bodies: 1252 Critically Injured: 2287 "

The "Woe is me" isn't confined soley to Israel--There quite a few countries under assault by the Islamo/Facists- Here's a current listing-- If you saw today's news, a large group of homicide bombers were arrested in Europe-- It's all about Iraq, isn't it? Yep, it's all about Iraq and... India and the Sudan and Algeria and Afghanistan and New York and Pakistan and Israel and Russia and Chechnya and the Philippines and Indonesia and Nigeria and England and Thailand and Spain and Egypt and Bangladesh and Saudi Arabia and Ingushetia and Dagestan and Turkey and Kabardino-Balkaria and Morocco and Yemen and Lebanon and France and Uzbekistan and Gaza and Tunisia and Kosovo and Bosnia and Mauritania and Kenya and Eritrea and Syria and Somalia and California and Argentina and Kuwait and Virginia and Ethiopia and Iran and Jordan and United Arab Emirates and Louisiana and Texas and Tanzania and Germany and Australia and Pennsylvania and Belgium and Denmark and East Timor and Qatar and Maryland and Tajikistan and the Netherlands and Scotland and Chad and Canada and China and Nepal and the Maldives and... ...and pretty much wherever Muslims believe their religion tells them to: "Fight those who do not believe in Allah, ... nor follow the religion of truth... until they pay the tax in acknowledg-ment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection." Qur'an, Sura 9:29

........... on this in this organization? Now this is a perfect idea! Abu Habu Mazen can also show up in a press conference and praise Israel or lobby within the Arab world to get off Israel's back in exchange for releasing his 2000 murderers!

#! POP, What it that "poo on pals"? Remember, everyone has rights even Israelis. Speaking of human rights, when is the UN to tackle the much delayed criticism of Saudi Arabia? When will the UN ask them to allow freedom of religion? Freedom of association? freedom to wear what you want e.g. crucifix? When will the pals, egyptians, iranians and others be criticised for their collective punishment of Israeli citizens? What have the school children in Sderot done to deserve the torment they have been subjected to daily? Basically the UN needs fairness if it is to be of ANY use to anyone. At the end of the day it takes two to tango and two to untango.

Sudan never being criticized on Darfur is the height of hypocrisy with this "new" inernational body. Many others having a much worse record than Israel on human rights such as Syria, Arabia, Iran, Russia/Chechnya, China, Burma come to mind. No wonder that Israel feels discriminated by far.

Israel is always the poor victim. The whole world is anti-semetic and out to get the poor Jews, right? Sorry to say, the world is full of many people and cultures, and Jews don't even make 1%. Why won't Israel take a good long look at what its doing. 1,000 Pal kids have been killed. Women die in childbirth at checkpoints. Thousands live in squalor becuase they are blockaded by Israel. Before the bully beats another woman, then cries about how women are bad, maybe he should look at himself in the mirror for a change.

You neglected to add that Israel is illegally occupying bits of land that does not belong to it. You neglect to mention Facility 1391 Nor do you mention the countless instances of IDF brutality, videotaped by the way which many country's witness on their TV screens nightly. Instead you just wallow in the victimhood that is becoming the Jewish way of life. Moses would be proud.

Before this question is answered, all other discussions on the issue of morality are futal. A parade of islamic third world idiots are defining moral. HA.HA.HA.HA.......

those difficult conditions. No nation in the world could moraly even come close to Israels in this situation. And to all those saviges in UN INHUMAN "rights" with an agenda I will say: screw you.

The UN is dead. Not only on Israel issues. The idea of such an organisation is basically a good idea, but it has failed miserably for the past thirty years, on issue after issue. Third world countries love the UN. I live in one. It gives bankrupt leaders and silly regimes a sense of importance to rant and rave internationally. George Bush did not help either, by screwing up an already screwed up UN.Scrap it and start all over again.

Every of his post is a proof.

Israel's treatment of Palestinians should be criticized. That is not the issue, dear POP. The issue is HOW Israel is criticized. When the UNHRC takes up as serious agenda items the scores of other countries, particularly Arab and Islamic countries, for their ongoing, systematic, racist, ethnocentric and horrendous human rights violations, then there would be no double standard. As it stands now, these very same countries use their automatic UN majority to attack Israel ceaselessly so as to take the focus off their own regime's nasty business. One examples: in the last seven years 4000 Palestinians, many or most combatants, died. In the last three years, Sudan killed some 400,000 Darfuris. But, the UNHRC does not condemn Sudan. WHy? It is an Arab and Muslim country, that is why. Double standard.

The so-called Human Rights Council has nothing to say about murder and genocide in Sudan or any other human rights abusers: nothing about Iran, nothing about Saudi Arabia, Hamas, Al-Qaida, Hizbulla and Burma. All human rights violators get out of jail free but democratic Israel is criticised as if self-defence were a crime. Well it is not. Get used to it.

"What would the UNHRC do if Iran nuked TelAviv? NADA" Wrong. They would condemn the Israeli response.

There is no doubt the UN is as narrow-minded and foolish as it is incompetent. With all their faults, inactions, and bureaucratic corruption, they have no business chastising almost any nation, except a rare few, Israel not being anywhere near one of those few. This one-sided finger-pointing at Israel, with a simultaneous blind-eye turned to other, much more reprehensible parties in the region (ie hamas, hezbollah, islamic jihad) and around the world is inexcusable.

Allen is right they must stop acting like they are victim. They must forget the bus bombings, school lunch room bombings rockets hitting them every day. How dare those Israeli feel like victims

Libia, Cuba and Syria: Great Human Rights paradygms. (...)

Between the corruption both financial and moral and the fact that the UN has turned into a mouthpiece for the most radical and brutal regimes in the world, I'd say the UN is nothing more than a sham. Not only does it unfairly target Israel but look at the rest of the world. Darfur is the perfect example of everything the UN is not doing that we pay $22 billion a year for. The UN is a disgrace and if it were up to me they would be booted out of NY and all support would be revoked.The Human Rights Council is but the tip of the iceberg.

"If Algeria introduced a [UN] resolution declaring that the Earth was flat and that Israel had flattened it, it would pass by a vote of 164-13 with 26 abstentions." - former Israeli foreign minister Abba Eban

Oh, so in your opinion Israel only has to return to making it EASY for the terrorists to kill them and THEN, (maybe) the world will listen to the Jews screaming for their help? Guess a strong Jewish entity able to defend itself turns the stomachs of the anti- semites.

"Israel refuses to cooperate, then complains" - Tosefta. Apparently the LEFT wants to convince us that Israel enjoyed friendly relations with UNHR Organizations before 2006 - Huzpah indeed. Shameless lefties...

The holocaust rest in peace ,,you have no right to use the death of innocent people to justify aggression better shut up

Yes they are all anti semitic. Boycott them.

sems whenever someone criticizes Israel for anything, the 'pity card' soon follows. And the mate of course, is the 'guilt' card. Rather than always draw upon the past, why not take a look at the present? The genocide of the Pals. is no less revolting than past salughter of Jews. But you just can't admit that; you're too busy throwing pity and guilt cards....

Redefining 'Human rights' to suit their own evil purpose.

...so his opinion is worthless. If Israel doesn't want to be criticised by the UN and much of the world then stop committing the crimes. Until then stop whining.

and leave us alone stupid as all of you in your country.

Israel has worked hard to get this special attention. So continue to reward Israel for it,s efforts to become the State with the most UN Awards for butchery and inhuman behaviour. 40+ years of total committment to war mongering and disregard for international Law and human rights, and climbing. It is only right and proper that the UN should focus it,s energies on this "Pariah" State.Israel should not however be alone.The other Pariah State "Uncle Sam', should take it,s place on the podium as runner up.Who is third is arguable but the gap between 2nd and 3rd is considerable. And just think Margie.You are an integral part of that.I bet,given your former life in SA that you are proud.

a free run in Tiberias. Years ago visiting Tiberias I noticed in a beautiful spot overlooking the lake a building with sign "Church of Scotland". The same Church being quoted quite recently as being one of the most virulently anti-Israeli institution in GB. Tosefta which can't stand the name "Israel" (no country given together with "Tveria") has forgotten "Give the Caesar what Caesar's" but feels completely free in admonishing Israel . Had he tried it with Syria,Cuba,Sudan(all on the UNHCR) while living there,well we wouldn't be hearing from him anymore.

people alone. If I was you I would worry about Lucifer coming after me.

Israel seems to believe that as long as Israel can point to someone, somewhere, who is also a violator of human rights that they should get a green light to continue to brutally oppress the Palestinians, which of course is pure hogwash. Israeli occupation forces have killed over 4,000 civilians, including 400+ innocent children this year alone in occupied Palestine and continues violate International norms and international laws with the impunity of tyrants, so it certainly deserving of condemnation by all, including the UN Human Rights Council. Israelis need to accept the FACT that they are the pre-eminent human rights violators second to none, so Israelis should stop whining about simply being exposed as such and instead join those in Israel who are trying to put an end to Israel's occupations of Palestinian lands and thus put an end to the many gross violations that Israel must commit to realize its genocidal goal of ethnically cleansing the Palestinians from their homeland.

Sorry I'm not familiar with international terminology

Stop funding as murderers such as in Darfur hiding behind a majority

headed by Luis Arbour. She was leading the investigation against Serbs in Kosovo and sided blindly with Alabenian Moslems against Serbs ignoring Albanian atrocities against Serbian Kosovo population. She learned which way the winds blow in UN and makes decision popular with Moslem countries. Arbour was appointed to the Canadian Supreme Court.Thios appointment was not satisfying her ego. Her judgment had to duiscussed and voted with other Supreme Court Judges. So she resigned after 2 years and took on the appointment to the Human Rights Council. Kofi Anan, the other appeaser of Moslem countries approved Arbour also. The last 2 yearsunder the leadership of Arbour All resolutions by the Human Rights Council were against Israeli "violations" None against Sudan in Darfur, Irans killings of journalists and other dissidents, Mugabes terror in Zimbabwe. Arbour is proving to be a moral dwarf biased against Israel

The longest playing comedy in NYC is the UN. Its not hard to get tickets. What people do not realize what they are laughing at, can cause deaths. Un turned its back on Aftican Ststes yelling for help. Un turned back on those forced to leave Arab states because they did not pray to Allah. The line to get tickets to see show not long at all.

Assassinations. House demolitions. Theft of land. Theft of water resources. Collective punishment of all sorts. Destruction of agricultural lands. Ongoing siege and blockade of Gaza. Ongoing occupation of territories (40+ years). Killing of children. Killing of journalists. Killing of peace activists. Killing of UN employees. Imprisonment of thousands, without trials. Massacres at Sabra and Shatila, etc., etc., etc. Blatant discrimination against Arab minority. Non compliance with dozens of UN resolutions. Non compliance with Geneva Conventions. Refusal to sign non-proliferation treaty. And on, and on, and on. The whole world knows of these things. Israel is in no position to lecture anyone on morality. Gillerman you are absurd and ridiculous in your statements. Your hypocrisy is sickening. No one believes you.

...but ONLY Israel is under the magnifying glass. Talking about a BIASED Council! The Council doesn't give a hoot about the human rights of the people in those over 130 countries and is hence severly neglecting them. Such a Council deserves being fired for NOT doing its job! The Council cannot therefore be regarded as nothing but a bully focusing exclusively on Israel and is abusing its position as a Human Rights Council in the UN by failing to equally put under scrutiny the HRs violations in other countries too and show impartiality, which is expected from the Council!

the only way israel will be happy is for the whole board to be jewish, every country sees this , israels denial of the mistreatment of ordinary pals is arrogance, and what does arrogance come too? destruction, the unhrc is spot on, and it continues to see that anyone who dares speak against israel is branded an anti-semite, yet, israel is more anti-semetic than any other country it accuses.

At Camp David the offer made to Arafat was a viable state. Dennis Ross in his book The Missing Peace gave all the details, Madeleine Albright and Bill Clinton conformed that too. Please go to a library and get Bill Clinton?s My Life, open page 914 and read the following 3 pages. It is faster then reading the entire Dennis Ross account. OH And say Hello to Jay Leno if you are around Burbank, I heard he is passing around doughnuts in front of his studio today.

why pay dues to the u.n. when its run by arabs who are predjuced against civilization. its o.k. for them to critcize democratic countries kill each other in there dicatator countries teach hate in there schools. what a way to live and teach there children to hate

Exactly what the world did while Hitler's gas chambers and ovens ran. Don't preach to us Jews we have 2000 Years of history with your VERY ancestors past and recent, and we KNOW WE CAN"T COUNT ON YOU.

you said"It was ready to do the same with Arafat at Camp David but Arafat missed the opportunity." well Egypt took all its land back, but Arafat although (I don't like him personally) was offered arab towns of west bank surrounded from all sides with Israeli settelments. from here comes the term,(Viable Palestinian state) don't you remember?. well if Israel is really interested in Peace, let it accept the Arabic peace Initiative. can you argue against this, this Arab initiative has shown the world, who really wants peace,and who just try to find reason to continue steeling of Arab land.Israel wants peace? now you know the answer.hahahahahaha

oh, am I ever tired of hearing the rabblerousers on here complaining that its Israel that's morally bankrupt. Israel has a right to complain about the UN Human Rights Council. the UN turns a blind eye to Myanmar,Saudi Arabia, Sudan, etc yet ISRAEL, who is being bombed from the southwest and threatened by the north, is morally bankrupt. Most democratic countries would have imprisonned all palestinians if they lived in their country and caused the crap they've been causing.

or can't you?

All that you write in your post is basically not true. That is the difference between good and evil - speaking truth, and acting thereafter is good. Speaking evil, and acting thereafter is evil. Don't you get tired of yourself?

IT CAN'T BE CALLED WRONG WHEN YOU CONCIOUSLY LET EVERYONE BUT JEWS DO WORSE. GET A BRAIN.

shoe fits...you wear it. nothing new.

There has probably NEVER been a bigger phony than the pipsqueak lightweight from California, Sen. Barbara Boxer. Thanks to her, the best ambassador we ever had no longer represents the U.S.

A very clear message delivered, and it was as I see it overdue. Europe will most likely stand with Israel in times coming. The biggest reason is Europe is rapidly facing the same problems Israel have been facing for a long time. Leftist governments in Europe seem to be on the decline, which in itself is very good. This might also lead to a slow but steady moral change in politics which will lead to Europe standing more clearly as an allie of Israel. Time will tell, the signs are already to be seen.

Israel needs to take a hard look at their human rights record before criticising anyone. Their treatment of the Palestanian people really shocks the conscience to say the lease. Israeli Arabs are treated like second class citizens and I could go on and on.

the second UN council also against Israel human right record, may be it's true and we just in denial?.No,No, because we are perfect, we are the jews who commit no mistakes.if even we violate the human rights, so what's a big fuss about it, we violated every UN resolution,we are only very human with the jews,other human beings don't count.so what's a big deal, we are the chosen people , we can torture anyone, G-d loves us no matter what. I love Justice the Israeli way.

Israel needs to stop acting like a victim. They are responsible for a large number of human right violation that media choses to ignore in North America. America should push Israel to clean up there act. You can not have millions of people suffering due to Israel wanting to act like it is the victim.

The HRC sent a mission to look into a Beit Hanoun case of a large number of Palestinian civilians killed, I believe in 2006, which also included Arch. Tutu and others. Israel refused to cooperate and the mission did not make it to the Gaza area. This was last year's HRC, and the one Gillerman is complaining about. Israel refuses to cooperate, HRC puts it under watch, and Israel complains. Sounds like an unjustified complaint to me. Read the Report in unhchr.ch/huricane/huricane.nsf/0/FDB14682D29B482FC12572F9004E72F9?opendocument

with the morally bankrupt UN or Europe. Every society has injustices and the fact that the UN and Europe is made up of gangsters has nothing to do with the recent jump in the price of eggs.

They didnt say what the disability is. We don't know the full story. She might demand all the teachers' attention or the parents might just be bigots. But we can't say for sure without the facts.

It absorbed over 100 thousand Jews who were expelled from Iraq in 1941, about the same number from Yemen in 1952, from Alexandria Egypt, Syria, and Jordan. When the Arabs are ready for a real and lasting peace with Israel (Not after planting the seeds to destroy Israel) they get peace just like Egypt had. Israel gave back the oil rich Sinai to Egypt for a real and lasting peace. It was ready to do the same with Arafat at Camp David but Arafat missed the opportunity. Bill Clinton told him that Arafat was the reason he had been a failiure.

Self-defense is not a crime. Murdering innocent civilians is a Palestinian specialty, something they do purposefully. Israel targets those who fire mortars and rockets or send suicide bombers. You?re a subtle anti-Semite because you hide behind the mask of ?anti-Zionism,? but your inability to show balance and your obsession with Israel reveals your underlying pathology.

watch the videos. You're all suffering under illusions if you don't know or admit the facts. Read this article: http://www.unwatch.com/rc062503.shtml

Want to get the focus off of Israel? Just prove that there is no occupation. Prove that Palestinians can come and go as they please. Prove that assassinations by Israeli death squads don't occur. Prove that Palestinians can return to homes that they own regardless of their religion or ethnicity.

Israel is good at judging the UN Human Rights Council when Israel needs to look at their own shame....a good example of that is the story of the sweet little 6 year old Aviv who was forced out of her day school by pressure from other parents with kids in the same day school simply because she has a disability.

Ghandi,

"Ongoing practice of singling out Israel" - HELLO! Name me one other state in the world today that has committed an entire people to the status of refugees! Name me another state that is responsible for the longest illegal military occupation the modern world has ever seen! Israel may delude itself into thinking there is some sort of bias against the Jewish religion in the UN but the truth of the matter is that it is up there with Sudan and Zimbabwe. Israel grow up! If you want to be a strong, modern and mature state then act it. This victim status of yours is boring and doesnt work anywhere else outside N.America anymore.

Dreg Barak sacrifices Sderot because he wants to look nice to dregs like those on the Council

Hitler also accused jews of being anti-humane and Violators of Human & Animal rights. Just mere years before he started gassing and creamting MILLIONS of innocents.

"Israel's Ambassador to the United Nations harshly criticized the UN Human Rights Council on Tuesday, saying its repeated focus on Israel had rendered it "morally bankrupt." " Perhaps the repeated focus is caused by Israel's repeated crimes. Perhaps the answer is to stop these crimes rather than complain about its critics.

Gillerman is not fit to lecture others on morality. His country is now effecting a slow-motion genocide against Gaza, where 1.4 million human beings are being barred from food and work and medicine. Talk is cheap.

I suppose this is an impolite question, but are the charges made accurate and substantiated?

This organization is a joke. They have no morals and are squeezed by the demands on world oil. gellerman is right the UN and most of the world's countries are morally bankrupt. They have lost the guts to stand up to the islamic threat

The UN reflects the state of the world.Sinking into an abyss of mob rule by undemocratic nations run by unsavoury regimes.The cruel torturers of the M.E. who chop off hands,stone women and torture prisoners pronounce on human rights.The UN is in fact the faulty towers of the political world. Ptotest the absurd Human Rights Council by writing to: cbb@ohchr.org telling them exactly what they should do with their Israeli criticism.Ask which country spends the most on thumb screws,electrical shock equipment and torture cells.They know less about human rights than my house cat.

DAN GILLERMAN IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ON THE MONEY regarding the U.N. !! Bob Dylan says it all in his lyrics of "Neighborhood bully" on the cd "Infidels".

Israel, Give up the occupation, the summary killings, the restriction of movement of non-Jews, the 'Jewish Only' roads, the settlements, collective punishment, house demolitions, etc... And then, and only then, will the world consider your rebellion for just criticism.

Israel, Give up the occupation, the summary killings, the restriction of movement of non-Jews, the 'Jewish Only' roads, the settlements, collective punishment, house demolitions, etc... And then, and only then, will the world consider your rebellion for just criticism.

We already know this and so does most of the world.