Israel to build NIS 1.5b fence along Egypt border

http://www.take-a-pen.org/english/Fences.htm

Walter, you should work for Al Aqsa, Hamas, Hizbollah or like that is their logic too. That logic makes no sense what if before 18, that family left? The person was injured? religious? Or peace? Incredible what you are saying it can be worked around in so many other horribly wrong ways, sad, a mind isnaterriblw thing to waste

Well, that's not a new idea. I would rather say it is normal and rational to build fences where they can restore stability. Morocco has built a fence along the border with Western Sahara. Spain has built a fence surrounding Ceuta. The States is erecting a fence along the border with Mexico aso aso...

The article doesn't specify, but I suppose that this wall will be inside Israel. That would make it legal, even if regrettable. Unlike ...

This is a delicate balance, but the refugee dilemma may be a blessing in disguise. For if Israel were to adopt a more open immigration policy not only for Jews but for others in plight around the world, it could help turn the demographics dilemma between Israel and the Palestinians more in Israel's favor, by growing Israel's population. Israel should build homes and shelters for these refugees in Judea and Samaria. In Biblical Israel, Israel would show to both its people and the world the essence of Jewish values by sheltering and caring for those in need from around the world, and use this process to naturalize them as eventual Israeli citizens. Israel would then boost its ethical claim to the West Bank in the face of US, European and UN pressure, increase its own ethical capital in the eyes of Hashem, and decrease the Palestinian majority in the West Bank.

If Israel really wanted to preserve its character as a Jewish state it would adopt a more generous and open-hearted policy toward refugees. This is not necessarily to say that Israel must let in every single migrant that comes its way, but that Israel should remember Jewish history, Jewish plight from the Torah onwards. I am not opposed to building a wall per se, since Israel must balance the need to protect refugees with Pikuah Nefesh principles to make sure it has control over who gets in. With the numerous refugees from the USSR Israel took in came mafiosos and human traffickers. Israel must take care to let in as many refugees as possible, while increasing control to make sure those coming in are coming in morally, cleanly and genuinely.

"A separation wall," a wall a long Sinai, etc. Sooner or later, "preserving the Jewish and democratic character" of Israel may make it necessary to build a wall a long all of of the Mediterranean Sea. Also, another one inside the Dead Sea, and inside Tel Aviv. Israel is making itself a medieval walled apartheid state.

Israeli pols worry about the symbolism of releasing foreign terrorists, but ignores the more serious symbolism of creating a physical barrier to keep out 'undesirables'. Israel is like a poorly managed convenience store that has super wealthy friends propping it up.

One rotten apple will spoil the rest? Been proven time and again. Likewise evil minded illegal imigrants set to destroy are extremily difficult to locate and deport, before they do serious damage.

we can't be both...

to its people? This is a sign that Israel is an unsustainable project. Palestinians are more confidant, how do i know? They are against finces, They wanna destroy them. Israel is not confident on its future, it will end up just like the antique Jewish kingdom.

What with all the other walls and fences on land, the ocean protecting us on the other side and the iron dome above our heads we should be safe. Masks, bottled water, atropine in our pockets and sealed bedrooms, can't wait! Peace and freedom at last!

What a stupid idea. If Israel keeps building walls the whole country will be encircled. What kind of freedom is that? It will be just like a prison for the Israeli's. Maybe they will then know what the PALS feel like living in Gaza.

Look guys, I know your country is basically over-run by right wing lunatics and religious extremists right now, but can you at least be a little considerate and think how much work the Arabs are going to have on their hands 50 or so years down the line bringing all of these walls down, once they become the majority in Israel. I mean it looks cool and all and maybe even generates a decent amount of income, but come on! Do you have any idea what kind of a pain in the ass its going to be to eventually dismantle these things! Yeesh!

LOL you call that a fence? Try a massive prison wall. Such a slanted report.

One or the other but not both. It is such ideals that were manifest in the deficiencies highlighted in the Or Commission. Deficiencies that have been manifest since, as when Olmert spoke of 'institutionalized discrimination'. One in 4 are NOT Jewish and in another generation it may be more like one in three.

"I took the decision to close Israel's southern border to infiltrators and terrorists. This is a strategic decision to secure Israel's Jewish and democratic character," Netanyahu said in a statement. Sorry Bibi, you have to choose. Either Israel is a country for all its citzens, in which case it's democratic. Or it's a country basically just for Jews, in which case it's an ethnocracy not a democracy. That's why nobody anywhere in the world recognises Israel as The Jewish State. Would you regard the US as democracy if it was The Christian State? Would you regard the UK as democracy if it was The Anglo-Saxon state? No, in both cases your mates in the ADL and AIPAC would be screaming their heads off about anti-semitism.

So, how will Israel enforce the no go zone on the Egypt side of this fence ?

I see Egyptian people living in an open prison and starving, I can feel their pain and suffering,I can see economy shattered and people killed for being too close to the fence while picking goat droppings. This Israeli attempt to isolate another of its neighbors is illegal and must be condemned by all of us.If not, you'll bear consequences for supporting rogue state of Israel!

Finally!!!

in Israel are allowed to set the political agenda, the state will find itself increasigly cut off from the rest of the world, both physically and in spirit. Can Israel only survive by living b ehind prison walls. There is an alternative but the will has to be there to grasp it.

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The Soviets put a wall between the Germanys (not actually to keep people in, but to keep freedom out). The US put a big fence between it and Mexico. The psychological effects are still being ignored. - The most disturbing aspect of Israel is that its resources, its best and brightest, are being used to prolong security issues, rather than solve them. When someone is born in Israel they should not be called an Israeli citizen, but rather a private in the IDF.

Soon, israelis will have fenced themselves in from the whole world. Personally, I like the idea.

A 'fence' does not cost $1,500,000,000.00. Either what is proposed is not a fence, or it will not cost 1.5 billion dollars. Just out of morbid curiosity, I decided to work this out. I found a quote to install cyclone fencing -- materials included -- for $2.60 a linear foot. That comes to just under $14,000.00 a mile. The Egypt-Israel border is 125 miles long. That comes to 1.75 MILLION dollars to fence the whole thing -- or one thousandth of the cost quoted here. Obviously, it's a harsh environment, and this presumably is going to be a government operation, but no -- whatever you're calling a 'fence' is definitely not a fence.

we need our own fences and have our own problems none of which you help with....time to cut you looooose...swim or sink on your own

I'm writing my senator now to say "no way."