Israel opens Erez Crossing for foreigners, sick Palestinians

Many Christian Palestinian's have FLED because of Muslim Palestinian terror and threats against them. Bethlehem, not too long ago had a Christian majority, Fatah threatened and extorted them. Bethlehem is now a Christian Minority.

"Hold keft"? That is not a very good suggestion to try and spell "shut up" in Danish. "hold kaeft" would be much more close to the original Danish expression. Hope you feel better today and refrain from further primitive words. I have the right to express my opinion just as you have the right to disagree.

Mona,- to your information there are Christian Palestinians, too.

HOW CAN IT GO ON. WHY NO ONE SPEAKS OUT. WE CHRISTIANS HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

It seems you're having great difficulty furnishing the example I had requested. Here's a remindder of what I'm looking for. It's really a case of put up or shut up, as they say. "#123 Don Camillo Name: * BEN JABO City: USA State: NO country during wartime allows enemy aliens the right of entry. The U.S. didn`t let German or Japanese citizen into the U.S. during World War 2. Let`s put the onus on you, NAME ONE COUNTRY that will permit enemy aliens to enter it`s territory in a wartime situation. All visitation, no matter what the reason, is banned"

T: "WHy should I help those that want me dead" The people who want Israel's help are fleeing FROM the people who profess to want you dead. Get it? This is YOUR line of reasoning, Tobia: 1) All the people in Gaza are Palestinians and 2) Some Palestinians profess to want me dead so 3) All the people in Gaza must want me dead. A person who isn't delusional would immediately see that the flaw occurs when the reasoning progresses from (2) to (3). So what's YOUR excuse for not seeing it, Tobia? You already answered me? Indeed you did, but you are quite mistaken about what your answer proves.....

The pals have committed great crimes against the pal people. It is time that they stood up and faced their actions and rectified them.

you've got your "facts" bass ackwards. It's quite evident that you're a poor pupil...Here's some facts for you to digest, chew thoroughly, swallow slowly, it might penetrate. They do say that if water drips on a rock long enough it will make a hole. Pay attention to who attacked first..."Arab-Israeli wars Britannica Concise Print Article :: Email Article :: Cite Article Series of military conflicts fought between various Arab countries and Israel (1948?49, 1956, 1967, 1969?70, 1973, and 1982). The first war (1948?49) began when Israel declared itself an independent state following the United Nations' partition of Palestine. Protesting this move, five Arab countries?Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria?attacked Israel. The conflict ended with Israel gaining considerable territory. The 1956 Suez Crisis began after Egypt nationalized the Suez Canal. A French, British, and Israeli coalition attacked Egypt and occupied the canal zone but soon withdrew under international pressure. In the Six-Day War of 1967, Israel attacked Egypt, Jordan, and Syria. The war ended with the Israel occupying substantial amounts of Arab territory. An undeclared war of attrition (1969?70) was fought between Egypt and Israel along the Suez Canal and ended with the help of international diplomacy. Egypt and Syria attacked Israel in 1973 (the Yom Kippur War), but, despite early Arab success, the conflict ended inconclusively. In 1979 Egypt made peace with Israel. In 1982

"Why should I help those that want me dead". Tobia, you live in New York, USA. Who wants you dead?

T: "WHy should I help those that want me dead." Because the people who want to go thru Israel are fleeing FROM Hamas, who are the group who profess to want the State of Israel destroyed. You are simply spouting a racist and bigoted world view no less warped than those you profess to hate: 1) All the people in Gaza are Arabs 2) Some Arabs in Gaza want to destroy Israel 3) Therefore, all Arabs in Gaza must be terrorists who want to destroy Israel. Now, a SENSIBLE person would see that the logic falls down at (3) but you - clearly - do not. You answered me? Indeed you did, Tobia, but not in the way that you think you did....

700 MILLION WOMEN REQUIRE HUMAN RIGHTS 700 MILLION UNTOUCHABLES IN INDIA 20 MILLION SUDANESE REQUIRE HUMAN RIGHTS GET ON TO IT MR CAMILLO I STILL SAY YOU ARE ABLOODY IDIOT

Why exactly iis Israel responsible for these "refugees"? What are they,professional refugees?They go where the wind blows..Hamas is good one day,not the next..then they crawl on their scabby knees to Israel,begging for more welfare from the country that has kept them fed forever..who they also hate by the way,except when they need something!!!!

WHy should I help those that want me dead. If Israel allows them they should all be together . THey should be watched and shiown the exit

Providing so much medical assistance to our enemies. Surely this cost is coming out of the care of the elderly.

But you occupy yourself opening and shutting checkpoints to look busy. IAEA found in Iran polonium-210, highly perishable - half-life of ONLY 138 DAYS, only used to make A-bomb triggers. This means Iran about to nuke Israel IMMINENTLY. Israel can stop Iran without US, using neutron bomb. Read: http://www.neutroniran.blogspot.com/ Only alternative: H-bomb on Tehran but neutron bombs on military targets are much more gentle. But Iran is so centralized that it is a "one bomb" country if H-bomb used. Read: http://www.israelnationalnews.com/article.php3?id=6835 Neutron radiation destroys soldiers, not property, dissipates quickly. Then invasion is cakewalk. Invade with ground forces to seize and destroy Iran nuke sites on the ground. Then no need to nuke underground Iran nuclear sites. Just take stairs and destroy with conventional explosives. ONLY way to get ALL Iran nuclear sites: INVADE! Fact - Israel WILL use nukes. Only question is whether Iran uses them first.

Egypt's responsibility for the safety and well being for these people ended in 1967. ISRAEL took on that role after 1967, because the role of the OCCUPIER is not to pillage the land that it has under it's occupation, but to secure it and to preserve it, because under International Law the Occupying Power has authority over that land and those people under a TRUST arrangement, not an OWNERSHIP arrangement. When Sharon shouted to his boys "load up, laddies, we're moving you to the border" he did nothing more than abrogate that responsibility, and *this* is the end result of that decision. The welfare and safety of these people are still ISRAEL's responsibility, not Egypt's, and it is the ultimate in hypocrisy for Israel to then turn around and say to Egypt "well, I don't want 'em, so YOU look after 'em". If that is her attitude then she bloody well never should have occupied the joint in 1967.

T: "Would you want people that have sworn to kil you crossing your proprty?? I would be standing there with a shot gun to make sure they kept walking young and old alike" And I asked in my original post wether the Israelis have any concept of the phrase "riding shotgun" I am not suggesting that Israel settle these people into nice apartments that have a lovely line-of-sight to the Knesset building, or a nice view of the open window to Olmert's office. I am asking why Israel refuses point-blank to even consider passage THRU Israel to other destinations for these people.

"Saying the same thing repeatedly won't make it true, Don Camillo". Ah, how true! Just like saying that Israel is the victim and Palestine the perpetrator won't make that true, either.

to Dutch: "You were going to volunteer as a human shield and have chickened out. They're waiting desperately for your arrival" Not half as desperately as the IDF is awaiting your commitment....

repeatedly there would be a case for the selective humanitarians making demands. Unfortunately they also have a convenient collective amnesia.

You may not know Russian immigration policy, and you do not know anybody elses for that matter. Israel is allowing in those the Russians and other countries are willing to take individuals and or families. Israel is not accepting Russian citizens, but allowing whomever Russia is willing to take to exit via our country. A very humane action. If Russia does not accept the spouses of their citizens, that is not our policy or concern. Immigration is strictly an internal matter for each nation. I suggest that you contact the nearest RUSSIAN Embassy and inform them of your concerns. Kindly stop making us responsible for every other nation in the world. We do not make their laws. By the by your country is welcome to issue passports and visas to any and all residents of Gaza. We would honor those immediately and facilitate their expedition travel to your country. Hows that for humane? How many would YOUR country accept?

Dutch - Israel has an interest for survival. In the 1930's and 1940's, naive people like you were saying "oh, it's only verbal talk and Hitler and co won't do anything." I guess you people do it for appeasement purposes - but the bottom line is that Hamas isn't even trying to hide their nature and intentions - they make it easy (but you're too blind or anti-semitic to see) for us: their publicized charter calls for Israel's destruction. How can you accept and deal with a entity like that - one that is globally listed as a terrorist organization? At least Hamas should have done what Arafat did, lie and say they accept Israel's right to exist. Start holding Iran, Palestinians, and other Arab nations responsible for this mess. They should be financially supporting the Hamas regime, not Israel. And listen to Abbas tonight, he actually called Hamas "terrorist thugs!" Hah,.. the irony is absurd. And your hypocrisy is of concern.

"the UN should rule on this matter rather quickly". Steve,have you ever seen the UN rule on ANYTHING rather quickly? Or even not so quickly..or even at all? Out of all the Arab countries surrounding Israel..big countries with lots of room for refugees,who are also supposed to be brothers of the pals..why do they not offer assistance..why tiny Israel should take in enemy refugees who want to destroy them is beyond me.

But apparently you along with most of the world is. You people easily forget that in 93 we signed the Oslo Peace agreements to end this madness once and for all. We showed our natural will to broker peace - a 2 state solution as you mention. In 1948 UN Resolution 181 was rejected by the Arab world (then representing the Palestinians, who weren't even called that, they were Arabs). Yet, she eventually managed to broker peace with Egypt and Jordan -and gave millions of dollars to the Palestinians in hopes of peace. Egypt and Jordan should with-no-question be the ones absorbing the refugees, both when considering the role Egypt and Jordan played throughout history, and because of obvious geographic (population + size) reasoning. But you know what? As usual, Israel is being held to higher standards, more so than any other nation, and she will soon open up to more injured people for treatment in Israel. That is the pluralistic and humane nature of Israel - always reflecting global hypocrisy

They chose and voted for Hamas. They made their bed, let them lay in it. Otherwise, they have one more option, Egyptian borders is equidistant, let them head in tht direction. Certainly, some people helped Jews, the difference being that the Jews weren't a threat to those people, the Arabs are a threat to Israel's security.

Is it for sale? If so for how much? Maybe the Palestinians could buy it for themselves with Arafat's money.

Israel provides Palestinians with free water and electricity. Israel armed the Palestinian Authority. Israel didn't slaughter the Palestinians during the war of Independence - somthing that all other nations did when gaining their own independence. Israel acted in self-defense ever since 5 nations attacked her in 1948 when, on behalf of the so-called Palestinians, the Arab world rejected the two state solution (UN Resolution 181). The rest is history. The only people that owe the Palestinians anything, is their so-called brothers; Egypt, Jordan, Iraq, Syria, and Lebanon. But guess what, they despise the Palestinians more than Israel does - true irony, eh?

because evrybody who are there presently are fugitives if they cannot go to the West Bank and need to return back to Gaza and get killed, who IS going to be responsible . The UN should rule on this matter rather quickly. This IS a HUMAN CRISIS that is going on, remember during the WW2 lots of people helped the JEWS against the NAZI, today they have the same opportunity to show their JEWISH VALUES. Please GOD help the GOOD PEOPLE of this Earth and PUNISH THE BAD ONE TOO.Amen

Would you want people that have sworn to kil you crossing your proprty?? I would be standing there with a shot gun to make sure they kept walking young and old alike

As many of the more nationalistic posters have said more eloquently than I, and in better and more vigorous language than i am capable of, Arafat was as cunning, devious and scheming as Sharon. Arafat and Fateh sold the Palestinian poor, and dispossessed families down the river. We used to xalle Arafat and his team 'the Volvo Mafia' - always new cars and alwaus starving Palestinian families. Does this meet your point?

Hello again Michigan. No, not a Palestinian, nor Israeli. Just a humanitarian who has some little knowledge of the environment through work. But who I am or what I do is irrelevant to the purpose of this forum which is surely to exchange views, not insults. And despite the abuse of PAUL HARRIS!!!! I am quite genuine in my desire for reconciliation and peace not words of hate or scorn HARRIS PLEASE NOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My apologies - I have a family to run and cannot get online to this forum as often as you are able to. You may well be asleep when you get this or the page removed for tomorrow's edition. I cannot answer for the foreign policies of other sovereign States. I do not know what Russia's immigration policy is. What i do know, and waht many reacted to, was Israel allowing wives and children in but not the husbands. This does not seem humane or justified.

or have they turned tail out of harms way as per usual, then have the temerity to censor Israel.

First of all, don, if the Russians - or ANYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD - were willing to take the husbands and fathers of these foreign nationals, Israel would only be too glad to bid them farewell! Of course then you would accuse Israel of ethnic cleansing if those Palestinians left with their Russian wives. You can't blame Israel, they don't control Russia, Jordan, Egypt etc. As far as your questioning Israel's benevolence and compassion, the lawyers in the case were pointing out that it is not out of legal obligation but precisely out of benevolence and compassion that Israel continues to give medical treatment to those who have declared themselves to be enemies of the state, and out of compassion Israel continues to supply electricity, water, etc.

What do you mean by "has & make"? Israel has problems guaranteeing it's own security. Abbas will turn his guns on her at his earliest convenience. The Pali's in Gaza made their own beds, it's full of thorns and they MUST learn to MAKE due with the monster they created.

The fences and checkpoints you refer to DO NOT EXIST IN GAZA! Are you ignorant of this FACT or are you intentionally making completely false statements? The only fence is called a "BORDER", and that particular border (between Gaza and Israel) has never been in dispute - not today, not in 1967, not in 1948.

So what's your point? Yes,thereare restrictions in place.Why would one think these restrictions are in place? Maybe because pals have this annoying habit of entering Israel and blowing people up. Innocent people,on buses,in restaurants..they don't go near the army though,do they..anyway,you know this as well as everyone.You sound like Dutch/lakshmi/Marilyn etc.Saying the same old thing repeatedly won't make it true,camillo.

NO country during wartime allows enemy aliens the right of entry. The U.S. didn't let German or Japanese citizen into the U.S. during World War 2. Let's put the onus on you, NAME ONE COUNTRY that will permit enemy aliens to enter it's territory in a wartime situation. All visitation, no matter what the reason, is banned.

for that which you have intentionally failed to do. You made a public committment, you were going to volunteer as a human shield, and have chickened out. They're waiting desperately for your arrival.

"Egypt today abides by the instructions of the Arab League concerning Palestinians of not granting them citizenship." Exactly, so if Israel buys the Sinai and gives the Palestinians a piece, hopefully closer to Egypt than Israel, with a little room to grow, this should help depressurize the situation. Sinai consists of 60,00 sq km. Israel, including east Jer. and Golan is 22,145 km². That's a lot of land much of which is unpopulated. True, it is dry and mostly desert, but with modern technology and desaltinization, it is livable. "the North Sinai is gifted with plenty of underground water. According to Bahay Essawi, an Egyptian geologist who once worked for the Water Resources Ministry, there is enough water in the Sinai from yearly rainfall to supply double the population there without building expensive pipelines.

Guido, if you had read the news at all over the past week, you would understand that Gaza and the West Bank are now at war with eachother. They are not at all the same country.

You know absolutely nothing. Please stop makeing Denmark look stupid by the use of your uneducated, one-sided rhetoric.

camillo doesn't answer questions..he just seems to respond by asking another one or asking for proof he's another Dutch,same old rhetoric over and over.

Non of this existed from 1967 until your hero Arafat and his buncha thugs came to these parts (by the grace if Israel itself) and started to cook some stew - and then the intifada. Say thank you nicely to him, will you.

I thought we learned from history. THe Pal mothers are willing to see their children die as long as they kill Jews. The Israeli parents cry while the Pal dance in the stret. You are dealing with a culture of death, AMERICAN Parents cried when the Muslims flew plane into World Trade CEnter.PLus they danced in the street celebrating the horror. How many chances will G-D give us

Your knowledge seems to be very localized.

Can I expect an honest answer the fourth time?

Don't know where in the world you live, but Israel is far more generous than say the United States. In the US if a person applying for a green card leaves the US they are not allowed back in period. As for a Palestinian entering Israel needing a special pass, no kidding. They are not citizens and their government is at war with us. And we are expected to accept them? Not a chance. 'A Palestinian of 1948 can theoretically go anywhere in the OPT but not Gaza or Area A.' Nor can Jews the law is for all Israelis, they are at war with us remember? '? A Palestinian with a Jerusalem ID card may not marry a Palestinian with West Bank or Gaza ID, and vice versa.' Horseshit - they do not get automatic citizenship, but in no way are they barred from marriage. Though it is the same in every other country in the world too.

Dutch, please re-read the title of this article- Israel is allowing- and treating the sick and wounded. This is more than Egypt is doing I may add. You would also do well to educate yourself with the charter of Hamas, a Google search will yield many sites that post it. Then you will understand the Israeli attitude towards them. As for the closing of the border to Gaza, recall the suicide bombings in Tel Aviv in the early part of this century, where there were several each week over many months. There is no way this can be allowed again. Neither Abbas or Egypt want to take a chance with them either. Perhaps they can move to the Netherlands?

MORE IDIOCY FROM THE FAKE NAMED CAMILLO

HOW MANY MORE YEARS OF THIS DRIVEL !!

If you possess any of that charecteristic your poster name implies, you would not need to make the jibe. But I will explain anyway. I post because I am shocked at the vitriol, the hate, the bigotry, the extreme anti-Arab racism I read in in too many posts. I post because, as Judaism calls on you to do, i believe the first part of Genesis that G-d made us in his own image. And that there should be no dscrimination of treatment based on race or religion or nationality. What I read here on these posts (not from eveyone, I concede,) is the exact opposite of that. So I will continue posting and arguing the humanitarian approach because I refuse to abandon the field to the extremist nationalist bigots.

was, is and has always been.

A Palestinian with a Jerusalem ID card cannot enter the Gaza Strip for longer than one day and then only on a special permit which is rarely, if ever, granted. ? A Palestinian from the West Bank needs special authorisation to enter Jerusalem or the State of Israel. He cannot enter Jerusalem for family or religious reasons without this permit, which again is only rarely granted, and then after lengthy, seeming-Catch 22, bureaucracy. ? A Palestinian from Gaza must obtain special permission in advance to go to Jerusalem or the State of Israel. If he gets it, he must go by way of Egypt, and then to Jordan, eventually crossing at the Allenby Bridge, taking days. Gaza is normally about an hour?s drive to Hebron. ? A Palestinian of 1948 can theoretically go anywhere in the OPT but not Gaza or Area A. There are further restrictions for anyone originally from Gaza married to anyone who is a Palestinian Israeli. The spouse originally from Gaza may obtain an Israeli residence card, but is awarded no nationality, thus making foreign travel almost impossible. ? A Palestinian with a Jerusalem ID card may not marry a Palestinian with West Bank or Gaza ID, and vice versa.

Israel has committed great wrongs against the Palestinian people. First, it rejected the will of the Palestinian people in a free and fair election bid. Secondly, it waged a cruel and unfair economic embargo against them and caused terrible financial hardships among civil ervants and their ability to provide for their families; thirdly, it refused to extend its hand iin kind to their unity government ; fourtly, it played Fatah against Hamas and used under cover agents to break the cease -fire agreement; lastly, it threw it support behind Fatah over Hamas which caused unspeakable violence and great loss of life and more suffering to Palestinian families. Then when other helpless Palestinians tried to flee because they were frightened or wounded Israeli officials closed the borders. What heart-lessness. Why aren't Israelis standing up and saying our government & the US have committed great wrongs against the Palestinian people? I know people are in cyberspace. Dutch

Why should Israel take in these "refugees." The Arab countries would never take in Jewish refugees. Let the Arabs help their own people for a change.

"...Egyptian sources say Cairo is reluctant to accept them." why does Israel have to be the savior when their own Muslim brothers dont and never want to accept them into their home.

"Palestinian freedom of movement, which demanded Israel immediately grant entry to Palestinians in need of medical treatment." If Israel is an enemy State to Palestinian, I really wonder how they are always asking Israel to help them to Israel's hospitals? How can they hate the hand that helps them????

Geez.. A couple of days away and seems like all the jew-baiting bleaters are on holiday too!!! Must be something about the peaceful way Hamas has been treating the Palestinians. Anyway, the brayers are all over at the UNHRC article jumping on Israel and defending it's being put on the Agenda "permanently". Must be because of the way Hamas is treating the Palestinians. Or, am I just crazy.

Naive? Of course. I will keep believing that treating other people well will in the long run prove to be the most "terror-preventive" action in this world. Witnissing the Palestinan problem as an outsider have not given me any reason for thinking otherwise. The war with Libanon last year was not a remarkable success either.

Israeli Arabs are not so different, with the exception of those that are in the Army, using the positions entrusted to them to pilfer arms & ammo and sell it to Israel's enemies. Or those that have seen fit, including Arab MK's, that have performed espionage and given or sold it to Israel's enemies.

choose between guns and food

Interesting idea!!! However I don't believe the Egyptians want to deal with the Palestinians. Why do you think they continue to operate refugee camps and have never given but one Palestinian citizenship after 59 years??? Israel accepts people from all over the world, Russia, Ethiopia, etc. Their misery was not Israels problem yet they helped and welcomed them. Why not their Arab brothers? Because it is a simple scapegoat to continue the battle against the State of ISrael. REmember, the war with the ARab world existed long long before Israel captured Gaza and the West Bank. Israel made painful sacrifices to return the Sinai to Egypt. Egypt of course reversed all the irrigation and technology that Israel had placed there. But thats another debate. Look at what Pals did to the Gaza greenhouses left intact for their benefit??? They destroyed them!!!! Peace?? or Stupidity?? Can't coexist??

IT SEEMS THAT ON THE ONE HAND ISRAEL IS BAD ON HUMAN RIGHTS BUT ON THE OTHER HAND SHOULD TAKE CARE OF ARAB REFUGEES FROM HAMAS !! PERHAPS SOMEONE WILL ENLIGHTEN ME PERHAPS FERRIMAN OR THE FAKE CAMILLO ??

it owes the Palestinians in billions for that property - land, houses, orchards........... Save yr breath, don't give me that rubbish propaganda about Arab countries n Jewish property... You owe the Palestinians billions.

responsibility. if they choose guns over food then thats their choice/responsibility. now accept responsibility for their choices

You said it, yes Israel does know how to deal with wanna-be-terrorists and real ones. If you think the chekc points are inhumane and IDF measures are so brutal check out with your human rights watch what happens in certain African countries. If you live here you ought to know what is real and what is not.

I think that the Russians should be thinking twice before they sell weapons to Syria. The extreme gall they have after Putin visited Israel and promised that he would always protect Israel and its large Soviet expatriate population. BULL!!!! As for the Doctors without Borders, go back home!!! Why don't you guys come to Israel and clean up the messes caused by Palestinian terrorism??? Why don't you grab a rifle and man the border to protect Israelis against terror. Why don't these "poor" Palestinians turn to their benefactors and "elected" government for help...HAMAS??? Its so convenient to blame Israel for everything. Time for the Pals to step up and answer for their own wrongdoing and stupidity.

Israel can dictate its own terms in the vacuum of big-power. The UN head up the best organisation supposedly for refugee responsibility and they seem to be as inactive in this situation as ever. U.N. fecklessness, and Arab impotence is still the same. This is not Israel's problem.

I have red all your post. You must be good-hearted and nice person, but very naive. Israelis are not angels. And remember that West Bank authorities do not want gazans in WB. For Israel it is difficult situation, but I hope that small Israel will be able to settle this big problem.

It's an arab problem so let the arabs deal with it.

How much do you think Egypt wants for the Sinai? Israel could probably buy it for a couple of billion, give a large piece to the Palestinians........just a thought

Instead of focusing on Israel taking them in let their arab compatriots take them in. The Egyptian border is nicely located. And as for all you mother types. Keep the sympathy for Gilad and the others.

Why Arabs insist on living in "HaEretz"? Well, first of all, Arabs have lived there for many many many hundred years, so I guess they feel a connection! Wouldn't you ?!. Moving out to the Arab states? No way, do you think that anyone voluntarity would go an live in a place where human rights are even more battered and neglected? All Arabs in Israel I have ever met, despise the leaders and the regimes of the Arab countries and do not feel that they have any "spiritual" connection to these states. They want democracy and secure living for their children. Not exactly virtues you find in Saudi Arabia, Syria, Irak etc. etc. Even though treated as second-class citizens they live fairly well in Israel. Israeli Arabs have settled down and dream the same dreams of a good house,a big car, good job, nice spouse & happy children like any sound human being on this earth. Not so different from the Jews, I believe ;-)

Not even the PA wants to permit them into the West Bank. Why doesn?t the UN takes charge of those refugees? Israel is taking them in its hospitals. I guess they will remain in this country.

Why should Israel? The Egyptians must have reasons for not to accept them. Imagine Israel.

The Russian embassy officials should be angry with their hamas friends, who have caused the mess, not with Israel, which is the target of the terrorists their country supports.

Very good question Maurice, but I doubt if anyone will provide an answer. It's odd that those fleeing Arab/Muslim terror tend to gravitate toward Israel (that great bane of the Muslim world) - Palestinians, Sudanese (who come through Egypt where they are mistreated and unwelcome). Yet the UNHRC has placed Israel at the center of its agenda - totally disregarding every single tyranny in the world. Israel seems to be the Jesus of this world.

People living by Israel's "doorstep" are not Israeli citizens. However, as you are yourself witnessing, Israel is the only one now helping those in distress. The worth of a country is measured by how it takes care of its own citizens, and not by allowing anyone to enter as a citizen. Its immigration laws are no more stringent that those of any other country.

Under the circumstances Israel behaves very well. It was established as a Jewish state to gove regduge to Jews from around the world so that they never again need to suffer the kind of persecution you write about. Your relatives can also choose to live in Jordan, Syria, Lebanon or any Arabic country of their choice, and live a fulfilling civilian and cultural life. One would think they'd prefer living in a place where their culture, language and religion are mainstream, and not as minorities in Israel. Can you please tell me why they insist on wanting to live in Israel specifically?

How dare those 1 year olds laying in the dirty tunnel vote for Hamas - you're right - they should suffer too... I'm sure when they get older they will understand your logic too.

kbow it much better than you imagine, BECAUSE THEY SUFFERED FROM SUICIDE BOMBERS, QASSAMS, KATYUSHAS. As a Human Rights activists you have the excellent opportunity to condemn HAMAS, but your organization prefers to condemn ISRAELIS in any occasion. ISRAEL SHOULDN'T BE INVOLVED INTO PALESTINIAN PROBLEMS. Buona Fortuna.

I would suggest strong security screening and allowance of passage TO WEST BANK. And of course taking strong advantage and may photo shots of Israel allowing in fleeing Palestinians INTO Israel from Gaza (preferably en route to West Bank - or other Arab areas) And saving of photos for future needs.

to hold your tongue and avoid looking like a rabid Israel-hating loon foaming at mouth.

Although there is a great deal of sadness about the Gazans who wish to leave, how can Israel let them pass through to the West Bank if the governing body of the Pals says no. that seems to be the central issue at the moment. Abbas will not let them in to the West Bank. Egypt has closed its borders to them and are returning the ones who did escape back to Gaza.

#68Eva 1.5 million peaceful Jews ethnically cleansed from Arab countries, from Iraq to Yemen to Morocco. That is modern history. And since Islam started, Jews were second class citizens there. Get informed by reading, not by listening to stories.

You claim to have children in Tzahal. Where's your concern for Shalit & the two soldiers being held captive in Lebanon? Why should Israel concern itself with "making him" accept so-called refugees, when she can't "make him" return Shalit. A promise he made and hasn't kept. Abbas isn't the good guy, just Yasser minus a beard plus a nice suit and a shave. Let his arab compatriots "make him" take them in or take them in themselves. Egyptian border is just as convenient a transit point as Israel is. Pressure should be forthcoming from the Saudis's, Lebanese, Jordanians and the rest of that motley crew. Just wondering what your attitude would have been if one of your children had been kidnapped and held hostage all of this time. You're a most unusual mother, to say the least. Not concerned for her own, concerned for her enemy.

Eva, but you do have to admit that the "dreadful things going on in Saudi Arabia, Syria etc." is what makes those countries strong and successful. Appeasement and fear are Israel's biggest problems, and would've destroyed countries weaker than it, such as Denmark.

Look at the Hamas killers they don't look to be hungry

Originally the Jews in Europe suffered very severe and horrible suppresion by various socalled Christian European kings during the Middle Ages. Where did they escape? To the Muslim countries where they were regarded as "people-of-the-Book" and therefore to be accepted and not brutalized. I was informed by this fact by a Christian minister and big support of Israel and the Jews during a recent service in the church. It was in the name of Christianity that Jews were really mistreated and suppressed during the past 2000 years. Very very sorry to see that some muslims have caught the idea. In the Bible, the Jews are God's chosen people with a very special status. I was naive to think that it also meant that Jews and the state of Israel would always behave very well and according to all moral values and statements. Not quite the fact, I found out. You have no idea how distressed I was to find out how many sad stories to be found among people living by the very doorstep of Israel.

You said, that no Pals wanted to be Israeli citizens?! Really ?! Well, the ones I talked with during the years surely originally wanted to be true members and citizens of the state, so that they could have a access to minimal civil rights instead of living in a area with just military control!

Make sure that the members of the International Solidarity Movement can get out of Gaza. Make sure nothing happens to them-what would Israel do without their agitating against the Zionist Entity? We must love our enemies-maybe one day Jimmy Carter will even say Jews have a right to breath.

my Arab relatives in Israel have lived a very calm and quiet life, not disturbing anyone. All having jobs: Serving in hospitals, schools, doing social work, one close female relative even a leader in a wellknown Jewish Bank etc. But on the other hand: a sister-in-law married to a Palestian in the West Bank. What a nightmare! What a difference between Haifa and West-Bank-No-Life! The only Jews their children ever face, are soldiers with guns or settlers on their way in fast cars on quick roads heading from settlements to jobs in Israel. Not a good impression for those kids, is it?! You know... Israel really made the good example 40 years ago by acknowleding non-Jews in the state of Israel. This was truly a good deed and very wise, too, and many many Arabs I know, acknowledge that Israel made things work out in the area they controlled (with a "little" help from their true friend USA!).

I love how all of the sick need to come to Israel for treatment. The Palis wanted their own lands did they not, now they have them and they can't even take care of themselves they need to keep running back to Israel for medical treatment, safe passage from Gaza to the west bank because well they're starting to realize that the people they elected are terrorists. Better question Israel why are you being so nice and helping the sick, let Egypt handle it, after all they do think they are responsible for all the other Arabs. I think Israel needs to start showing a little tough love, they wanted to be on their own, let them, they can find their own water, gas, electric, food even. Gaza is not Israel's responsibilty anymore, they wanted their own country so bad, so let them start creating it.

Ron is 100% correct.

Abbas does not want the refugees so thats why they have to sit in that tunnel? He HAS to take them and Israel has to MAKE it his moral obligation to take in his own people. These refugees are obviously used by the different sides to show who can be less responsible.. Israel is a country with very nice people, I love my country, my children serve in the army and with all the agony of that and having the rockets flying last summer we stay put. In many ways we as a country take care better of the deprived, as much as you may think we dont [Marilyn]. We even send field hospitals to any disaster in the world, while things at home are not the best and we need soupkitchens to feed the poor. Concerning the Palestinians, why is it we only see terrorists? We are a very hurt people... Even when you see with your own eyes this is a group of helpless souls who just want to get to a quiet place without religious fanatics pushing a gun in their face..We MUST help them...

Exactly correct. Which Muslim country will offer them refuge? Possibly Indonesia or Iran? Maybe the Sudan or Libya? I think the UN Human Rights Council should concentrate on providing an answer to this problem quickly. If Cairo is reticent, then maybe Qatar will welcome them.

Your post is ridiculous. Gaza is under a crushing economic boycot. How can you reproach the Gaza governement of not being able to offer normal services?

Neither shall you be a fool and accept a terrorist in your midst. Discretion is the better than stupidity. Ben Jabo June 20, 2007

They should be kept together IN GAZA. Families ELECTED to split themselves.

the same can be said for the 22 Arab States who have many citizens who hate the Jews of Israel. There are two sides to the same coin. No doubt about it. And if memory serves me, the Pals didn't WANT to be Israeli citizens and still don't.

Israel is insulting Hamas by taking in the sick. How dare they imply that Haniyeh, who is in control of Gaza, cannot take care of them. Haniyeh should block them and the foreigners from leaving and tell them that he will take care of them and provide medical care and safety. The fact that he is allowing them to cross into Israel tells everyone that he cannot provide any kind of aid for them. Hey, Haniyeh, you've got Gaza, now what are you going to do with it? Gaza is like Cuba, the liberals think it's heaven, but they would never move there, and the ones that are there risk their lives to get out.

Any one of the dozens of countries that have fleets in the Mediterranean Basin has available hospital ships with full staffs and state-of-the art equipment to handle the medical emergency precipitated by the Gazan crisis. A hospital ship anchored off the Gaza coast is just as near as are the hospitals in Beer Sheva or Ashkelon.

Israel has had instances of Israeli Arabs, serving in the IDF, who have stolen weapons and sold them to the enemy. Israeli Arab civilians have been involved in espionage. No, it's far better to keep them out before they've been subjected to extreme scrutiny. Haste makes for wasting Israeli lives. Caution helps preserve them.

I expected concerned for the fate of Pals EU would be sending already ships to take refugees from Gaza.

of dating someone who may or may not have HIV/AIDS? Of course not, Israel can't take a chance of receiving terrorists either.

your ignorance of what has caused the existing situation has to be honestly looked at. I suggest & recommend that you do the following, it's painless and informative. GOOGLE "Wikipedia's TIMELINES ISRAEL ARAB CONFLICT". After you've finished that, try GOOGLING "ARAB ATTACKS ON HEBRON 1929 & 1936", where your husbands ancestors killed and raped Jews residing there for many centuries, casuing the survivors to flee. Better yet, try Tel Hai March 1920. The problems are a lot older and deeper rooted than you think. While you're at it, look at how Muslims treat each other. Todays news, 60 Killed in Mosque bombing in Iraq. That's how they treat each other when the other side is worshiping. If you find fault with any of the above, get back to me for further discussion. Also, you should question why is Hamas shooting at fellow Gazans that are fleeing? Brother against brother, the usual Pali reactions They're incapable of getting along with anyone, including one another.

What happened in Gaza is shameful; much of the blame is directed to the Palestinians. But there are points to stress here: this is an abnormal situation; those people don't consider Israel as their distination. They want to go the West Bank; and this will not incur any harm to Israel. Second, the determination that Israel does not 'control Gaza' is totally false. palestinians would have left from the sea or airport if they could. Israel does control Gaza and occupy it according to international law and, therefore, has responsibility for its civilian poulation's safety and welfare. This is a terrible condition that was caused by a shameful crisis, but must be dealth with right.

Evacuate the "sick" to Barak's millionaire mansion,don't burden taxpayers with care for pal terrorists

Eva, read some history; in 1967, the Arabs outside of Israel were trying to exterminate the Jews of Israel. So when Israel won the war, offering them citizenship didn't seem appropriate. And it is not and will never be appropriate. So, why don't you in Denmark offer them citizenship? Oh yeah, you have. And look what you brough upon yourselves...

Where they lived for 2500 years, never suicide bombing or rocketing Arabs. Would any Arab living in Haifa change position with Jew in Teheran? Most Israeli Jews stem from Moslem ME, or lived with 60 years of Arab attacks. Would you change position with them?

Markus, we Jews don't need you to preach your confused, primitive morality to us. The Jews in Egypt were not committing acts of terror against the Egyptians.

there is no other country that you would make this demand of. How about sending all of them to YOUR kind, benevolent country? Demand YOUR country take in the refugees from Gaza as a gesture of humanitarianism. Contact the EU, Sudan, Syria, Iran, one of those kind benevolent countries will be sure to comply.

"Neither Israel """"nor Abbas"""" is willing to allow refugees to enter the West Bank..." Question: What does this say about "Abbas?" What does this say about a Palestinian "state?" Another question: Why does Egypt refuse to take in any of these Gazan refugees? Hmmmm...

Israel should certainly assist in humanitarian manner. it should allow Egypt or Saudi Arabia, or King Hussein or even Syria or Iran take these unfortunate people and give them medical and other aid. Israel should certainly not be unheedful of their plee for help. Israel should certainly not enter them entry to Israel, since once they will be healthy will become potential terrorists. These people unfortunately cannot be trusted. So, let their brethren come to their salvation. Let the UN commissions of Human rights... let them come and save these people Many good people out there.

You just repeat your slogans, but you don't tell the Russians to keep refugee families together. Israel is just a transit to Russia. Russia calls shots on who they take.

Abbas said no! Read the article again, try to comprehend.

abbas doesn't want the refugees from Gaza in the West Bank. He said so explicitly. Not much Israel can do is there? After all the West Bank is not Israeli land.

Time to tell you the truth in this media: I am myself married to a Israeli Arab, living in Denmark. BEFORE I met him, I knew only Jews (in Haifa) working there as volunteer in an old peoples home and were certainly not in favour of the BAD Arabs beforehand. With the years going by, I have seen with my own eyes what the oppresion of the Palestians have done. First I did not believe my eyes and ears.- Always have I been a big supporter of Israel and admiring your country. Being a Christian believer, but what a big disappointment! Israelis know that the Arabs within Israel behave like human beings (!) and STILL many Jews choose to see all Arabs/Palestinans as enemies with "bad blood". Full of hathred. I simply cannot comprehend this situation. If Palestinians hate you, they dont hate you because you are Jews...It is because of all the dreadful things they experienced, the violence and the oppresion in the West Bank and Gaza. You should have offered them Israeli Citizenship in 1967

On top of the Billions sunk already in Palestine, more per person then Marshall plan or any other humanitarian operation ever. Why, then, is standard of living so low?? Maybe it all went into bombs and Swiss Banks?

Who lives in Gaza or the West Bank. They have a right to say who can live in Israel, but not to say who can live in the areas bordering Israel. East Jerusalem, Hebron, the rest of the West Bank, do not belong to Israel. The sooner Israel realizes this, the sooner peace in the Middle East can be realized.

...it is called for by every international humanitarian protocol going. Regardless of race or creed. You never never split refugee families up for reasons of political power.

Is it per line? Per post? What else can explain your twisted logic and persistent posts?

You're right....there are no hospitals in Egypt, no facilities for settlement of "refugees", and none in the other Moslem lands either. Hah!

russians.......lovely russian women serving the needs of muslim men perhaps now that business has dried up???????

You write:?? Every country reserves the absolute right to determine which foreigners can enter," said the prosecution. "It does not have to justify to any foreign person why it is refusing entry to its territory." What about benevolent, compassionate, humanitarian kindness?' Why blame Israel after all the terror attacks there? Egypt does not let them in. Abbas does not want them in West Bank. Not even benevolent, compassionate, humanitarian EU offers to take them.

Send them in Sinai as tourist there is alot of weapons to buy there

being one of the most effective security wings in this world, Israel will know how to deal with this. After all, Israel has 20% Arabs living as citizens in the country, not posing any immediate threat (for the past 40 years at least). Maybe these Arabs could inspire the Gazan Arabs in how to deal with the situation. After all these Israeli Arabs know how to behave and be good citizens in the country, don't they?! It is amazing how a fair level of living can create non-Jewish citizens in Israel who are not waking up in the morning, trying to figure out how to kill any Jew on their way! A true lesson to learn from.

Escape - who wants to escape from Palestine? If they don't like their new government - who we are told was democtratically elected - let them ask to be allowed humanitarian entry into Egypt. Israel owes these people absolutely nothing. They elected Hamas, now let them live with it. By the way, I assume you can import fuel, food, water and mecicines etc. thru Egypt as well. Why aren't the Egyptians shouting to the world that they want the first opportunity to show their love and support for their Palestinian brothers?

37Camillo Did Russia allow Pal husbands to follow Russian wives to Russia? Would England, Spain or US act better then Russia? You want the wives and kids to go to Russia and the Pal husbands to Israel? And why do they all want to leave Gaza now? Because of Israel? How come you only blame Israel?

So, "Ran Yaron, a doctor with the group, told Israel Radio on Wednesday that 15 Palestinians' lives are in danger and they must receive treatment in Israel immediately." OK Ran you are the doctor so I accept that you have some idea whether these peoples lives are in danger. But on wat basis do you say "they must receive treatment in Israel"? Why can't the Egyptians, the Palestinians blood brotheres, be asked to send helicopters in and evacuate them to Egypt? Why do the Israelis have to take them in, and no doubt be toldthey have to traet them for free as well?

... for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt. (Ex 22:21).

"we show we forgot where we came from" No, we NEVER were like the Palestinians, and to equate Jews who suffered throughout history with the terrorists who inhabit Gaza and the West Bank is morally ignorant and disgusting.

Odd that you mention Shalit. Neither side knows where he's at or if he's alive. Most odd that you haven't expressed your concern for him or mentioned him until this time. People who claim to be seeking refuge have terrorists concealed in their midst.

And have people like you claim that Israel humiliates Palestinian women and children for no good reason? Give it up. You just want to attack Israel for everything it does. You don't really care about the Palestinians at the border otherwise you'd be calling on the PA and Arab nations to do something to help them. You're nice and cosy in Denmark, you wont be at risk, the soldiers will be. Why should soldiers risk their lives because you're getting hot and bothered in Denmark?

That only eliminates the possibility of them concealing weapons on their persons. It's what happens when they get to their destination and they pick up weapons at that end. Taking off their clothes won't separate the Hamas from Fatah or the innocent from the terrorists. Equal treatment for all, they're all suspect.

Fortunately, it isn't up to you, your ignorance is profound. There was a two state solution under the UN Partition Plan. Arabs refused it and attacked on 5/15/48. Surprised your teachers didn't teach you that. These people sit in a tunnel which they dug by their very actions. Many Israeli's rest in graves or are hospitalized or incapacited because of the hostile actions of the Pali's. Be concerned with your own children, who serve in the IDF or are subject to being called up. They're the ones that are in danger. If you want to be generous with Israeli lives, volunteer your kids to perform the escort service, don't leave it to the children of other mothers. I'm wondering if you're soft hearted or soft headed.

Israelis now splitting and dividing familes by allowing the wives, mothers and chidren in to Israel but not the husbands. And you wonder why the world question's Israel's version of human rights?

Surely the IDF knows how to deal with wanna-be-terrorists! As human rights reports state the breaking of legs and arms are one example of security actions performed by the IDF. We are many that cannot possibly imagine that Israel do not khow how to deal with potential threaths in that respect!

"Every country reserves the absolute right to determine which foreigners can enter," said the prosecution. "It does not have to justify to any foreign person why it is refusing entry to its territory." What about benvolent, compassionate, humanitarian kindness?

We don't think they're a "Security Threat", we KNOW it. Concealed in that mass of people attempting to enter Israel are Fatah & Hamas terrorists using the refugees as camoflage. The actual refugess are concerned with their own welfare, HOWEVER, the terrorist have their minds set onf committing acts of destruction. Israel must be super cautious to prevent infiltration. Israel has experienced a continual series of homicide bombings of public & private facilities. Repeats are to be avoided at all costs. Rather odd isn't it, one group of Palestinian's fleeing the other. They must be afraid of being shot at in tunnels or of having themselves thrown off high rise buildings. Invite them to Denmark, to join their brothers and sisters.

JohnBoy babbled: "A destabilizing influence on....what, exactly??" Yet the last paragraph in the article stated: "On Monday, gunmen allied with Hamas disguised themselves as fleeing civilians and hurled hand grenades at Israeli soldiers and Palestinians at Erez, killing a relative of a slain Fatah leader and injuring 15 other Palestinians. " Read much, JohnBoy?

Ben obvisiously you live with blinders on. You said that WE did not trap them, that is not true, israel DID trap them with all the fenses, walls, IDF, check points. IF the Palestine people were to try to move freely they are shot dead. So yes, dear Ben, israel has trapped the Palestines for decades and is responsible for the Hamas "take-over", it reminds me of a planned hunt in a national forest with high fenses, knowing full well that the "animals cannot escape" ((easy kill) But yet you cannot see that. You are so full of hate that truth is forgotten about.

It clearly IS a security threat. Look at the article! "On Monday, gunmen allied with Hamas disguised themselves as fleeing civilians and hurled hand grenades at Israeli soldiers and Palestinians at Erez" Now, whoever disagrees that it's a security threat can sign up to the IDF, or get their children to sign up to the IDF and volunteer to usher these civilians to whatever destination they want and *hope* that none of these "civilians" are actually Hamas terrorists. Or, would you rather put this task in the hands of some other person's son or daughter?

France is a part of the European continent. Can you give an example of the French welcoming the Germans each time they invaded in both World Wars? Forget about Petain, he was a traitor. I'm talking about the French Nation. Example please.

Mommy, haven't you seen the photos of the kiddies being trained to use weaponry. The kiddies are also conscripted by the various Pali factions, used as homicide bombers and planters of explosives. Why not "Google" Palestinian Child Soldiers" and learn what's going on under your motherly nose? Women, the apparently pregnant souls, concealing bomb belts where they pretend to be carrying a child, just awaiting the opportunity to blow themselves up in the midst of the people you claim to be a part of. North Israel, rather odd you didn't mention the town or city. Seen or heard any Katyusha's recently, I'll bet not?

The hypocritical cruelty of Israel knows no bounds does it? While they have these mothers and kids trapped without food or water in that hellish crossing they are invading Gaza again. It is only Israel that has rights in that stink hole they have created for the Palestinians on land the Israeli's stole from them. Not one other place on earth is allowed to punish and repunish their own victims and have the world applaud them. A Mother I am with you.

To those of you who think that letting refugees from Gaza is a "security threat": Don't you think that their minds are preoccupied with "other things"?! On Danish television yesterday a Gazan father with a dead baby in his arms (three months old), after being hospitalized in a hospital explained that he just wanted to get back to Gaza to bury his child but he was caught up in all this mess and was not allowed to get back to make the funeral! As a mother of three I am totally disgusted of the ignorant behavior of the IDF. If I was PR representative of Israel, I would say, that you are certainly not making a good impression world wide! Remember: people (like myself) expcct more from a Israel being a democracy than any other country in the region! Being a member of Amnesty International I know about the dreadful things going on in Saudi Arabia, Syria etc. when citizens do not "behave". Israel, Do not let yourself be "inspired" by countries neglecting basic human rights!

Showing humanity & being stupid are quite two different things. We haven't forgotten where we came from, nor do we wish to return because of miscalculation of allowing terrorists to enter concealed in the midst of civilians. We didn't "trap" them, they trapped themselves by voting for Hamas and by all the acts of terror they have committed against Israel. There's an old adage "One rotten apple will spoil the barrel", problem is, how to spot the apple. Another thing you must consider, since you claim to be a "Mother", which of the alleged refugess is the one that will point his weapon against your child and pull the trigger. Of course, as a "Mother", one or more of your kids is in Tzahal, the reserves, or about to be called to service.

"A Mother" I aplaud you. Although not strictly relevant, I would like to rebut the often used excuse "why pick on us, there are many countries with poor human rights records". That is true, there are, even many tens much worse. However it is not just the govt (I disagree with anyone who lumps an entire population under the actions of it's leaders) of Israel who I and many others I am picking on, I have heard the very same phrase from Turks when I critisise the treatment of Kurds, Chinese with Tibettans, and have even recieved rather abusive death threats from American skinheads when criticizing the racist reasons for their support of Iraq's invasion, and for their view that "all Jews should be killed". Please do not take criticism of your Military and Government as a personal attack on Israeli people!

These people themselves are trying to escape the same forces that hold Gilad Shalit. How can you set such a condition? They cannot do anything about it...

First of all, marriage is supposed to be "for better or for worse," etc. etc. So these 140 zonot live up to true recent cultural tradition, and make it clear they want only what personally benefits them at any given moment, on our shekel. If they do make it here, keep them in a holding tank like other refugees, and for G_d's sake (literally) do NOT allow them to remain and inflict more cultural corrosion. For all we know, they came to this region as part of the much-abused ISRAEL-SPONSORED Law of Return.

If Israel lets them pass through and abbas slams the door in their face (which he said he would do if any of you morons actually read the article before posting) what would you like Israel to do with these people then? Gaza and WB are not two parts of a Palestinian state....they are parts of a hopeful FUTURE palestinian state, currently the pals have NOT EARNED THE RIGHT to have a state, and hence gaza = hamastan, and the WB is still technically part of Israel. Israel has the right to refuse entry to its territory of ANY foreigner for ANY reason because it is a sovereign nation that has earned the right to determine who can enter its borders.

Since most of Israel's troubles are currently coming from Gaza, wouldn't transfering hundreds, possibly thousands of Gazans en masse through Israel be a bit of a security risk? And Abbas doesn't even want the Gazans in the WB, what can Israel do about that? Set up another tent city within Israel for Gazans?

No if it was up to me Israel would not be overrun with terrorists...If it were up to me a 2 state solution would have been operating long ago. I am not comparing our history sir, your analysis is very first level and ignorant. If you have a concience you cannot easily distance yourself from the fact that these people, also women and [what is worse] children sit in a stinking tunnel trapped by opposite forces without the prospect of a short term relief. To see only terrorists and not common people [like you and me] trapped in a situation is very ignorant and a dangerous approach, where yes we have seen through history outcomes of this. I am not afraid to look at ourselves and our role in this situation and to speak out against this disgrace. The only thing that is asked is to let them pass through to the Westbank what can be so so risky about that when you have them at gunpoint as it is...You guys are very shortsighted and weak.

An absolute pre-condition of even the slightest form of assistance to anyone or anything coming or going from Gazza should be the unconditional release of Gilad Shalit. Nothing more and nothing less.

If Gaza and the West bank are supposed to be one nation why shouldn't Gazans be allowed to cross freely into the West bank??????

Our security comes first. If it was up to you, Israel would be overrun with terrorists. Yes we were trapped, by an enemy who wanted to wipe us out. And we still didn't resort to blowing ourselves up on their buses. How dare you compare our tragic history with the Palestinians who had many chances to make life better but chose violence instead!

Even the Pals in West bank.......

Hi iletzter. Are you from the Letzter family many of whom perished in Eastern Galicia, around the towns of Lvov and Sokal?

What's wrong with Egypt? Why does Egypt not help, why don't they flee there?

Move the refugees to the Westbank as this is the future Palestinian state?!?! Israel seems to insist on bad PR...instead of showing a humane face, we show we forgot where we came from, what it is to be trapped...

What nonsense. To bring them to the West Bank is a self defeating measure. They voted for Hamas, so let them eat it. If they can't live in Gaza, they have 22 Arab "friends" with overflowing hospitality. Arabs undertsnad and appreciate one thing and one thing only. Force. That's the way it was in last two centuries and that's how it will continue to be. All these logical arguments are not relevant to these people. Moshe Dayan made this mistake after the 6 day war , yithak Rabin certainly made a grave error with Oslo, and Peres with his infamous New Middle East caued all havoc to reign in our region. As bad as the roch throwing intafada youth was, it certainly took on a sinister atmosphere whey they were allowed to hold weapons. 20 years ago, an Arab to have a weapon is a crime. Today, thousands of militants posses and brandishing weapons and Israel considers this natural and lloks on nonchalantly. Rifles are a thing of the past . RPG's , missiles, and who knows what next.

The Christian community in Gaza, which is also under attack, can be airlifted to Greece or Cyprus or someplace else that has a large Eastern Orthodox community that can and will absorb them.

# 1 . Totally correct. Israel carries no responsibility whatsoever for these people. They are in plight because they brought on themselves. As a humatarian gesture Israel should assist their transport to Egypt or Saudi Arabia or Quatar. They have have plenty of friendly Arab states. Israel doesn't need new arab imports. As soon as they recover they will become the next potential terrorists. Israel carries no responsibility , legally, morally or in any other way. Hey, the United nations also likes to help. Let them take these forlorn victims to a UN enclave . Not in Israel.

Why Egypt? Why not Jordan? I think Jordan should offer to take in all the Palestinians in Gaza, Judea, and Samaria who want to live in a Palestinian homeland. I think the Arab states should take the money they now pour into terrorist attacks and propaganda against Israel and give it to Jordan to absorb the refugees. Jews who want to live in a Jewish homeland travel thousands of miles; Palestinians who want to live in a Palestinian homeland can travel thousands of feet.

The women and children should be provided with buses and allowed to pass. Men should be detained for few days, investigated thoroughully and if terrorists are found among them they should be tried and put to jail, but those who are not terrorists should be allowed to Judea and Samaria.

Gaza has now been conquered by hamas and Israel is no longer the occupier. It is time for the world to recognise hamas as the democratically elected goverment of gaza, and for the gazans to reap their rewards (for better or for worse) for voting for hamas. Israel, as a friendly neighbour, should provide humanitarian aid but anything more (water, power etc) should be done on the basis of good business. The UN should also now spend it's aid money more wisely on real problems (Dafur, Aids etc).

Israel's and Abbas's problem with letting "refugees" into the West Bank, is who is friend and who is Hamas. That is their meaning of destabilization.

"It also fears that letting masses of Gazans pass through its territory to the West Bank may have a destabilizing influence." A destabilizing influence on....what, exactly?? Is Israel concerned that dropping those people inside the West Bank will have a destabilizing influence on the West Bank? Why, no, not according to this: "One option being examined is letting approximately 300 Fatah members cross into the West Bank through Egypt and Jordan." So Israel isn't concerned with the stability of the West Bank; it just doesn't want these people going through Israel to get there. Why? The concept of "riding shotgun" on a convoy has never occured to Israeli minds? How DOES bussing them thru Israel "influence" the "stability" of anything? Mind you, it does highlight how easy it is to set up such a bus service; a service Israel agreed to in the 2005 AMA and - gosh darn! - never quite found the time. "Israel"? "fears"? Yes, the two words do go together, don't they..

The responsible parties, including Israel, should really allow free flow of movement from Gaza into Egypt, and from Gaza into the West Bank. Not to do so, in my humble opinion, is far more dangerous, than to have it explode one more time. Abbas cannot hold these people hostage, and make them suffer twice, just because he is afraid it will become a Hamas stronghold. It is a Hamas stronghold, but they will have no-one to rule over. He cannot be intransigent, flexibility is what is required. That is the only way the situation will defuse itself. With G-d's help.

This is the beginning of the dismantling of the giant slum that is Gaza. This is the beginning of dismantling of the camps, of absorbimg the refugees, here, in Lebanon and everywhere else. The Sunnis are forewarned and had better be ready, instead of procrastinating another century. Change has been foisted on them, and they have no choice but to respond. Something has got to give. That is the message.

Israel does not need any additional arabs. The West Bank doesn't need to be overwhelmed with economic refugees from Gaza. The lovely Gazan's voted hamas in, kidnapped Shalit, murdered several Israelis, launch their rockets and murder even their own. No room at the inn. If arabs states want to take in their own arab bretherin, now is the time.