Iran FM plays down threat of pre-emptive IDF strike

I never said anything about who has an "edge on heaven" but wrote about the irrationality our enemies due to their deviant belief system. As to your point, while it's true that the ultra orthodox believe in the "Greater Israel" philosophy they only make up 3%-7% of the Jewish population in Israel. Israel is already on record rejecting the ("all of Israel idea") and support a independent state for the Pals. While Hamas still doesn't even accept Israels right to exist. Remember Hamas was elected by a majority of its people well over 50%. It's true that the Baptist Christians support of Israel is based in their Armageddon vision in the bible which has nothing to do with Israel, they can't control what U.S. Baptist believe nor do they want to. Thanks for your reply

I submitted something that did not appear here, and I don't quite understand why the "moderator" would reject it. I pointed out that the project to build a nuclear power station in Iran started under the Shah, so talking about Iran's huge oil reserves to imply that the only reason for them to do nuclear work would be military, applies to that time as well. But no one raised such accusations against that friend of the US and Israel then, strangely.

Memo to Kouchner: You are the foreign minister of France, not an ambassador of Israel. Or are you both?

As a supporter and friend of Jews and Zionism, I don't see any real bias in his dealings toward Israel. He is a true diplomat of a major nation, a powerful nation, and therefore, is acting accordingly.

that Israel will not strike pre-emptively. Isarel is too concerned with playing a politically correct diplomatic game whining to the UN and America,et al. Iran continues to subvert the efforts of the world community by having redundant secret nuke research sites and will attack Israel by surprise inits own pre-emptive attack.

Violence will beget More Violence?

Let's say Israel dropped some neutron bombs on Iranian and Syrian armies and airfields. An Israeli ground invasion all the way to Tehran would then be a cakewalk. But the Israelis? They're chicken! They haven't got the GUTS!!! Kouchner talks like Israel will bomb Iran right away. Ridiculous! It's out of all historical context! Like, when did Israel ever bomb a nuclear reactor? That could NEVER happen! Ha ha ha!!!

In my books you have redeemed your country from the one sided other swiss show in this newspaper .thank you

your knowledge of israel and israelis is limited and that is a british understatement.60% of israelis consider themselves secular or traditionalist and not religious.a visit to israel will do you good.however in the arab world there is zero tolorence for gays, christians-monkeys,jews-dogs,beer drinkers,mixed schools,woman rights....the list is long so please do israelis a favor and stop talking about items you know nothing about.

....exactly enough. I have made it very clear, that I (as a Chris- tian) would face exactly the same moral dilemma faced with that kind of a situation....

....that Kouchner did some very good work previously on the humanitarian front (MSF etc...). However, that doesn't automatically mean that he also has to be a good foreign secretary for his country. The foreign secretary is alway the first diplo- mat of his country, and a good diplomat will always be capable of seperating his emotions from his work. Unfortunately when it comes to the dispute between Israel and Iran, Mr. Kouchner has now repeatedly shown that he is incapable of doing so. P.S. In history there have been wars started by some "imprudent remarks"....

Your criticism of Kouchner and Miliband smacks of the anti-Semitic dual loyalty canard. I doubt that either one even considers himself Jewish, and some Jews are harshly critical of and don't care at all about Israel, but you only see their (partial) Jewish origins as evidence that they're putting Israel's interests ahead of their own country's interests. That's prejudice, pure and simple.

"M.A.D.(Mutual Assured Destruction), this cannot work in the Middle East. Since their no regard for human life. Suicide bombing proves this." How many Ayatollahs have you seeb on suicide missions lately?

"Does that mean that no Jews (or Muslims) should be allowed to make a political career in Europe or overseas...??? Not at all, there would be a much easier way: If both Israel and Hamas/Hezbollah/Iran would accept a fair compromise and make peace...." Wouldn't it be a terrible thing Dino? What will you do, if there are no more controversial stories on this site to to comment on?

For the moment. Lets just concentrate on Iran. Apparently, certain countries are worried. All the ducking and diving. Threats abound. Promises are made, yet later discounted. Then there is another angle. Iran held some election that was, well, lets say, which resulted in street demonstrations and certain mishaps which caused not only murder on the streets but also mass detentions. Religious leaders are fine, however, lets be honest, when they actually govern a country and its military, calling for the total annihilation of another religion, in this case the Zionist Entity, which is AKA as Israel we find ourselves in a quandary. The French FM has only stated the obvious. for civilization as we know it in principal. He is French, a humanitarian of great depth and does not deserve to be branded as someone otherwise.

Iran is obviously not threatened or deterred by what He or Israel says. There is nothing called Israeli Strike. There may be an ill-thought Israeli attempt, but this one will make Iran and the Islamic World's Day, The Sunni before the Shia, Turkey and Indonesia before Iraq and Pakistan or Lebanon.

Israel may pull off a couple sortie missions, but not enough military might to sustain tatal damage. If Israel did attack agaisnt the US's position, it will be difficult at best. In other words, it's mostly blowing smoke..and talking trash...

The notion that only non-Jews are entitled to make policy regarding Israel is so blatantly anti-semitic it needs little comment. In other words, no Catholic foregin minister should make policy regarding the Vatican, and no Muslim foreign minister should have anything to do with policy regarding another Muslim country. What a joke!

Trying hard to do the opposite by confirming that Israel will launch a pre emptive attack against Iran without a deal on enrichment. Yawn... I am a little curious as to the significance of this 'secret' installation. If the Americans knew about it along with the French and Israelis for 3 years why did the NIE report of 2007neglect to mention it? Why no mention of undeclared facilities in 2007? All sounds like a crock of b_sh_t.

Islam has no edge on "heaven" and god. How about the Israelis who believe that god has "given" them all of Palestine; and those in America, who are the worst anti-semites, who support Israel hammer and nail because they believe that when Israel does occupy all of Palestine, Jesus will come again and...... Well, you know the rest, yet you still accept support from them. Explain.

So refreshing to see the seemingly liberal-minded posters start questioning the the ethnicity of leaders they disagree with.

"the Iranian President threatened to wipe Israel off the map?" Could you please amuse me with a honest source to this statement? Because I don't believe he ever said that. And don't try to give me some falsely translated libel of some corrupt western media outlet. Thank You.

strongly support Irans?s right to defend itself against the ISRAEL terrorist attacks. Until Iranian citizens can live without fear of these attacks, Iran is justified in its effort to maintain national security for its citizens.While we all hope for peace in this middeleast region, it must not come at the expense of Iranian?s sovereignty

The culture of France and of the French people has been shaped by geography ... French culture today is marked both by great regional and socioeconomic .....i have criticized the coment he made Bernard Kouchner has no ground is Baseles and allow me to say his just a puppet and iran will not tolerate an attack from isreal. iran is a Sovereignty country no doupt iran will retaliate and isreal wil pay huge price

....my words..:) By the way, I doubt very much that a Jewish Swiss FM during WW2 could have significantly influenced the Swiss refugee policy..... ....unfortunately those were very different times, when the "humanitarian" aspect wasn't regarded as important as it is today.

"M.A.D.(Mutual Assured Destruction), this cannot work in the Middle East. Since their no regard for human life. Suicide bombing proves this." I haven't seen any ayatollah committing suicide lately ...

these outlandish remarks by people like Bouchner. We in Europe must speak with one voice.He does not represent the overall european view on the matter. Which is---would someone shut Israel up by cutting off the special trade agreements---for starters.

Israels current military capability was demonstrated in the 2006 war. In this war, they took on a vastly outmanned and outgunned Hizbollah militia camped upon their border and were thoroughly spanked and sent home. Now the IDF crouches safely behind their border and looks to the UNIFIL for protection. This is not a profile of a military that will fly thousands of miles and bomb a far more dangerous and relentless advesary. In this case, Israel will look to America for protection or learn to live with whatever comes.

Your observation is a joke. Israel just wants to survive and save what is left of its people. Israel has no wish to destroy any Muslim country. Remember , Israel has maybe 6 million Jews as compared with 300.000.000 Muslims around it. and do look at the map . Israel is just a little little spot on it compared with the Muslim areas. Your conception of the situation is a light year out.

that itis Israel that must be attacked?

It's obscene that the West and Israel should insist that Iran has no right to the bomb. Until and unless Israel is willing to become part of the nations who have their own nuclear facilities inspected, why the hell should Iran agree? This is all nonsense on the part of Israel who wants to be the only nation in the Middle East who can threaten nuclear war as they did in 1973. Utter hypocrisy

Talking with the fanatical Islamist-Jihadist regime of Iran will not produce the desired result. They are hellbent on their pathway of destruction. Devoid of rationality, the fanatics live in a different world that the West fails to understand.

worst... did you know that the siss jahe alrady prepared the ground , i mean the space' to set up a concentration camp in the town of BAAR, cnton Zug, adjacent to the local train station. the swiis have no right to preach ANYONE!!!

When the U.S. faced a similar threat at first we adopted a policy of M.A.D.(Mutual Assured Destruction), this cannot work in the Middle East. Since their no regard for human life. Suicide bombing proves this. So only the Reagan policy of "Trust but Verify" can work. Since Iran will never agree to this Israel will do what it must to survive. Who wouldn't?? This is an avoidable conflict but your dealing with a country that sent its children...in the Iran/Iraq war as human mind sweepers with plastic keys to heaven...so I don't hold out much hope for a solution.

TO DINO:if I understand you correctly it is because the Swiss government had no Jew as a foreign minister during the second world war that Jews trying to escape from the Germans to Switserland were not allowed in and that for the same reason those who survived and had Swiss bank accounts and came to rerieve their belongings were turned down because they could not produce bank papers?

Kouchner casually states that Iran must be wrestled to the ground BECAUSE otherwise Israel will bomb the crap out of the place. Hellllooooooooooo. Earth to Kouchner. Earth to Kouchner. You are rationalizing what is, essentially, Israeli blackmail. Because there really is an apt name for what Israel is threatening to do: "a war of aggression". "They [the Israelis] will not tolerate an Iranian bomb," Well stiff shit, Kouchner. If Israel wants to attack then let it. Alone. The Iranians don't appear to be shaking in their boots at that prospect; indeed, they give all the signs of fancying their chances. With good reason, because Israeli "martial prowess" has seriously eroded in the last two decades. So let 'em loose, but don't be surprised if you then watch 'em lose. Indeed, don't be surprised if the Iranians hand the IDF a serious spanking.

Amazingly when members of Goverment in France or Britain who have Jewish background happen to agree with an Israeli view its loyalty is questioned.[SShhhhhhhh lets not mention those 2 words starts with A-S] If the're gentile and share the same ideas then they are right wing facist Anti_Islamic.Wow you guys are real Eurabians already you have succumbed to sharia law subconsciously.Stockholm syndrome on a mass scale.wake up before its to late. Your kids will never forgive you for being disloyal to your own culture. god help you all

Trying hard to do the opposite by confirming that Israel will launch a pre emptive attack against Iran without a deal on enrichment. Yawn... I am a little curious as to the significance of this 'secret' installation. If the Americans knew about it along with the French and Israelis for 3 years why did the NIE report of 2007neglect to mention it? Why no mention of undeclared facilities in 2007? All sounds like a crock of b_sh_t.

Kouchner is not Neutral like the Swiss... If i'd be a neutral Swiss guy I would support Ahmadinejad plans to destroy Israel ONLY if would commit himself to buy a few Rolex watches...

Why is this French minister always saying important things in foreign newspapers ? Nobody reported it in France!

....can hardly be denied here. Honestly, if it comes hard to hard, I wouldn't wanna know whether Mr. Kouchner or Mr. Miliband will first have the best French or British, or the best Israeli interests in mind (same would of course apply to the Jewish members of the U.S. Congress). However, we should not blame them for that, it is simply natural human behaviour, most of us would face exactly the same dilemma, they should never ever have to be in that situation in the first place. Does that mean that no Jews (or Muslims) should be allowed to make a political career in Europe or overseas...??? Not at all, there would be a much easier way: If both Israel and Hamas/Hezbollah/Iran would accept a fair compromise and make peace....

Israel? Are you concerned what can happen to Israel considering the Iranian President threatened to wipe Israel off the map?

Once again Bernard Kouchner is running out of good sense. if the Israelis knew that their strike against iranian nuclear installations will stop iran ambition they already did, but isreal know very well that any strike against Iran nuclear installations will have a very bed consciences in all fronts, also they knew that Iranian master very well now the nuclear technology and it will be very easy for them to initiate a new nuclear program but this time is for a bomb. That why Israel did not strike yet not because the international community but for the above reasons.

Kouchner is a man with an impressive track humanitarian track, but for some reason he seems to have lost the plot on Iranian nukes. He has described them as a threat to the whole world, and already back in September 2007 he was saying the world had to prepare itself for war over them. I have no idea how Jewish Kouchner regards himself as, but the fact that his father is Jewish raises the possibility of him being too influenced by Israel on this issue. It's the same with our Jewish FM, Milliband. Don't get me wrong. I'm sure Kouchner and Milliband consciously do what they think is best for France and the UK. But people are inevitably influenced by their background. I wouldn't particularly want a French Iranian or a British Iranian in charge of European reactions to Iranian nukes, and I'm very sure the Jewish community and Israel wouldn't want that either.

....as the "babbler/waffler" Nr. 1 of the (French) nation.